Great summary! I’m a returning player and just discovered wow classic era and love that the social aspect is back. Everyone is willing to help each other again. Not just within guilds, but out in the world.. I will be sharing video this as it articulates the WoW evolution perfectly. Is great to hear that The War Within expansion is trying to strike a balance and appeal to the classic players out there. I might have to give retail another chance.
@hammerdancegamingАй бұрын
Thank you!
@byteme0000Ай бұрын
I don’t care if they create Bananas Plus, provided that Blizzard leaves Classic alone. That way, when Blizzard inevitably screws up yet another attempt at a Classic Plus release, we still have the original and best version of World of Warcraft to play.
@squarecircleCoАй бұрын
You couldn’t be more right, now just imagine how cooked you’d have to be to play sod all the way thru naxx when 96% players are already gone from the original population it started with.
@tmille777Ай бұрын
@@squarecircleCoI'm still enjoying SoD!
@AUserCAAPАй бұрын
I want to keep sod
@JRileyDАй бұрын
Hilarious how RuneScape can build on their old world and have a loving fan base and blizzard cannot
@kyleNoxiousEQbartoАй бұрын
SoD was extremely fun in phase 1 and 2. Thats when I quit. The community just became a bit to "much" is the simplest way to put it. I wanted to hang out with friends and smash out some dungeons and new raids, then all of the sudden a raid that could be completed with your eyes closed turned into parse wars and super try hards. I totally understand that this isnt everyone, and that some people think that someone like me is just making excuses, but my parses were just fine. Simply a different way to play the game now days is all.
@PromatheosАй бұрын
TBC was Classic + Nothing else will come close to that. It added so much to the classes and specs, expanded the world and yet somehow, when you played it, it still felt like Vanilla. It was Vanilla with some very cool additions. Wrath, although a terrific expansion, was when the first retail-like features crept in and that was when it stopped feeling like Vanilla did.
@frederikvanhees4701Ай бұрын
Tbc felt nothing like vanilla, the zones, gear and flying mounts were all shit. And a portal that makes u feel disconnected from the rest of the world. TBC was trash, only good thing were the abilities and talents
@PromatheosАй бұрын
Well, every day and every expansion from TBC on brought us closer to the retail experience so if you hated TBC then you must have hated everything that has ever happened in wow from 2004-2019. That’s cool if you do, but I don’t know what kind of game you would be satisfied by unless it’s just classic being reset over and over.
@RaiderDave42069Ай бұрын
I would just love to hear official word from Blizz about Classic+, like a small teaser of what we can expect
@ryan6881Ай бұрын
as always, great content, Hammerdance. Love your videos!
@hammerdancegamingАй бұрын
Thank you very much!
@samsonhaze6595Ай бұрын
I miss when *any* tier raid gear immediately made you stand out/people ask how you got that gear 😂
@mattifreshfan9111Ай бұрын
We got it already better than it could ever become in turtle wow, its more than I ever hoped for with classic plus, ticks all boxes. hope it stays forever, i will.
@NartrachGamingАй бұрын
How did we get from PvE to PvP? 0:28 I don't get it?
@nomnomNACHOАй бұрын
Probably from a small community working together no matter how “noobie” everyone was to an esport and metaslaving
@russellkent2425Ай бұрын
All Blizzard needs to do is remove the use of Addons, ban bots, ban guilds that sell runs, ban GDKP. There you go, 50% uptick in people being social and possibly not so toxic. Also, they should limit the server size. So people have their individualism back, you don't have to be a streamer just to be heard.
@RunAwaylilGirlАй бұрын
wow was the definition of "not just a game"
@DrewberTravelsАй бұрын
It’s a part time job
@magicslovenАй бұрын
@@DrewberTravels full time with OT
@FalloutTributeMusicАй бұрын
If you could afford it to be addicted from 2004 to roughly 2010 you should count yourself a really blessed human being.
@sanmedinaАй бұрын
in spanish we say "there's no evil that doesn't brand itself as good" that's wow in a nutshell lol
@FalloutTributeMusicАй бұрын
@@sanmedina Hahah well I could think of a million things worse then a Wow addiction ^^ Depending on what you lost along the line with it ofcourse :P For me its only Love and happy memories that remain while building up a normal life :)
@neikozarfati6664Ай бұрын
Great video!!
@hammerdancegamingАй бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@taarruz89Ай бұрын
If they are going to complete and service to us the unfinished vanilla story, and if they truly want to revive the spirit of vanilla, it shouldn't be called Classic+. They should name it 'The Vanilla.' They should prepare a nice trailer and announcement fitting the spirit of vanilla.
@Iron.TarkusАй бұрын
Just tried war within as a classic andy and really enjoyed the tbc timewalking definitely made me want to revisit it!
@hammerdancegamingАй бұрын
Right!?
@Chubanin123Ай бұрын
KEKW , Turtle WOW already did Classic Vanilla+ :) and its amazing , fck blizard
@squarecircleCoАй бұрын
If they have any chance it would be leaving all talents and classes alone, new quests and dungeons, updated world and starting areas. End game gear would be tuned so almost all classes specs are viable. Have a feeling what we end up getting is going to be very close to SoD which means change only the stuff that no one wanted changed. Literally new vanilla starting/lvling areas would bring a million people back to wow and bring new life to hardcore.
@milesmorales5271Ай бұрын
No. They can’t leave all talents and classes alone if they’re going to make all specs viable. They’d have to make changes. My paladin needs a taunt and should be a viable tank in both dungeons and raids.
@squarecircleCoАй бұрын
@@milesmorales5271 I can agree with a pali taunt which could be granted via a questline.
@mwhighlanderАй бұрын
Speculation and cope is really getting out of hand for a fresh/ Classic +. You'll need to wait for SoD to wrap up, and give it maybe 8 months after that for the soonest...
@RaiderDave42069Ай бұрын
all we have right now is speculation... so we continue to speculate until Blizz officially announces something
@minementalxАй бұрын
Interesting. I doubt that you can see meaningful changes in the community this early in a new expansion. I checked out on retail wow with legion and it was always that the next expansion was the big turning point to old glory. I don't think retail players want that anyways.
@jurpo6Ай бұрын
is this a re-upload?
@morkan17Ай бұрын
second time i notice this
@kyleNoxiousEQbartoАй бұрын
So I dove into some retail WoW because I had a free month from recruit a friend. Its just not the same. Classic for life boyz. To much to take in now days for me, being an OG....*cough* old person
@citystarz71Ай бұрын
What’s the song during the pvp section?
@kmburke84Ай бұрын
Is there a tl;dr answer?
@grammy2838Ай бұрын
Classic plus wishlist: light-touch class changes, world buff rework (stackable charged chronoboons purchasable with dungeon tokens and BG marks), optional challenges for superficial upgrades (recolours, animation overrides etc.), some QoL like guild banks and LFG bulletin. Maybe some extra modes like arena, horde mode and RBGs.
@GraysfordaysАй бұрын
+ HYPE + HYPE
@hammerdancegamingАй бұрын
HYPE
@MorgmarАй бұрын
i hate min max community so much.. it kills the game
@taarruz89Ай бұрын
FEED BACK for classic+ - They need to unlocked all the locked maps in Azeroth and add new quest/story chains. - There are total 9 locked map in vanilla Azeroth (with isles) - They should add new dungeons and few new raids to some of these locked maps ofc. and design new items/gears fit to vanilla culture. - Some of people dont wanna see GDKP - Bots - Multiboxers - gold sellers and boosters. blizz should take this into consideration. - BARBERSHOP would be great in vanilla btw. (Except for gender reassignment) - We want to see the more lore from; The Great war to warcraft3 in vanilla Azeroth! - WE DONT WANNA PLAY WITH FCKN RETAIL SKILLS ofc! - We wanna see new races in line with the story of vanilla(warcraft). (maybe worgens cuz worgens shows in 2003 vanilla trailer. maybe high elves, maybe goblins or ogres idk) - More world boss and more wpvp events would be good ofc in line with the lore of vanilla. - Another arena would be great like grubashi with different chest or reward idk. - We dont want flying mounts and transmogs! - Paladin and Shaman classes should not be available to both factions. This breaks the vanilla culture! - We don't want the awful retail models! - We want just the real, completed vanilla! I am a 35 year old dad warcraft player, I have cleared vanilla twice before. I hope one day they will complete the unfinished vanilla and present it to us...
@predac0nmiamiАй бұрын
Yup i'll just stick to Classic WoW, Retail is way too different from the original vision and I just have zero interest in it
@bigup6641Ай бұрын
I want tbc and wotlk perma servers
@hammerdancegamingАй бұрын
Me too!
@lexi1337-r6sАй бұрын
Season of discovery is essentially classic+ ... and I did not enjoy it. Toxic players.