However Strong a "Cute" Top Tier is, They're Unlikely to Damage Entry Level Fun

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Sajam

Sajam

Күн бұрын

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@reaperofthings
@reaperofthings Жыл бұрын
I hope this gets adopted by the FGC community lmao. Imagine looking at a Street Fighter tier list and it’s just “Ryu is in the Cute tier” or “M.Bison is in the Trying His Best tier” oh god my cheeks are hurting from laughter at the thought
@v175w
@v175w Жыл бұрын
JP looking pretty chou kawaii in SF6
@SnuggsMcDuff
@SnuggsMcDuff Жыл бұрын
Tekken 7 Akuma= "Bitch, I'm adorable" tier
@awoo5796
@awoo5796 Жыл бұрын
Imagine seeing Zangief at the "very cute" tier
@dubuious
@dubuious Жыл бұрын
hey man good games your character is real cute
@Mzgty_Jc
@Mzgty_Jc Жыл бұрын
you go to Guilty gear and everyone is calling Happy Chaos "very adorable" fuck, you go to the smash community and Steve is banned for being "too cute"
@hamzahax
@hamzahax Жыл бұрын
Ayame is in the "melts your heart" tier
@Mene0
@Mene0 Жыл бұрын
That's funny as hell
@DragynFyre12
@DragynFyre12 Жыл бұрын
Its hilarious that you could describe a character as a "war crime" and "kawaii" and be talking about the same issue.
@blacksiopao
@blacksiopao Жыл бұрын
she's coming out next patch version 🥕
@karialy1479
@karialy1479 Жыл бұрын
@@blacksiopao AH↓HA↑HA↑HA↑HA↑
@dawsonpierce263
@dawsonpierce263 Жыл бұрын
They actually just had an update for Idol Showdown. It adds tags for online lobbies for skill level. Pretty nice that the devs are trying to make it everyone can enjoy the game.
@Eilanzer
@Eilanzer Жыл бұрын
it was a good idea because being a f2p game, they don´t have resources to make rankings and stuff live i believe.
@gutsbadguy50
@gutsbadguy50 Жыл бұрын
The devs are so active and transparent. They will probably do a lot of balancing in the future.
@magicalgirl1296
@magicalgirl1296 Жыл бұрын
Damn dude, that was a kawaii mixup. Absolutely kira kira. Couldn't see that shit at all.
@jeppyjep
@jeppyjep Жыл бұрын
LMAOOO KAWAII MIXUP
@technic1285
@technic1285 Жыл бұрын
sugoku crazy jyan.
@notthatplease
@notthatplease Жыл бұрын
Aki is so adorable. The way she mixes makes want to UwU my brains out. She is truly blessed.
@MontySlython
@MontySlython Жыл бұрын
Lmfaoo
@Xonarag
@Xonarag Жыл бұрын
You know what made this comment even better for me? The translate to english prompt beneath it lmao
@Imaginationless916
@Imaginationless916 Жыл бұрын
Describing a low tier as "Doing their best" should catch on
@cuttlefish6839
@cuttlefish6839 Жыл бұрын
Yeah its actually funnier
@Urd-Vidan
@Urd-Vidan Жыл бұрын
It's hilarious
@Nooctae
@Nooctae Жыл бұрын
The second part is maybe one of the funniest thing to happen to FGC stuff in recent time. I'm gonna go back to +R and tell all the Testament players their character is very cute.
@ShjadeNexayre
@ShjadeNexayre Жыл бұрын
Slayer is trying his best ;.;
@tabkg5802
@tabkg5802 Жыл бұрын
@@ShjadeNexayre missing link Potemkin truly is the gentlest of souls
@ConscriptedKnightRose
@ConscriptedKnightRose Жыл бұрын
As an Aki fan, suffering from success is the last thing I expected to associate with her.
@Addeand
@Addeand Жыл бұрын
It's so nice though!
@badwulff
@badwulff Жыл бұрын
@@Addeand As a streamer, she really does deserve more of it lol
@Fishman465
@Fishman465 Жыл бұрын
I know, right?
@CasualCoreK
@CasualCoreK Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I think it's really nice to see someone who has no attachment whatsoever to the characters and people behind them STILL have this much fun. It vindicates the game as more than just fandom nonsense.
@jeppyjep
@jeppyjep Жыл бұрын
I mean, even without all the vtuber stuff, its still a very fun game.
@notmbr
@notmbr Жыл бұрын
common based and smart danhausen fan
@Istillduno
@Istillduno Жыл бұрын
Yeah it's nice how well both sides hold up, it's like neither the fangame element or the fighting game element is having to prop the other up, it's really well done.
@VerbalLearning
@VerbalLearning Жыл бұрын
This game has really "forced" people to turn their aggression when playing fighting games into "cuteness aggression" as a means to sugarcoat the salt.
@queenbeeremedy6993
@queenbeeremedy6993 Жыл бұрын
As an Aki player, yeah she's super cute. I mean, I can do some Kawaii stuff with the M assist and teleport. Her pressure is fking adorable.
@decksteroussnail
@decksteroussnail Жыл бұрын
Regular FGC: Oh no GT Goku isn't that broken, people just need to figure out the matchup Idol Showdown FGC: SHE'S GOT THE BEST IDLE ANIMATION -- EASY S-TIER
@mollitow1323
@mollitow1323 Жыл бұрын
Koko backwald and Ora Ora Ora
@NaoyaYami
@NaoyaYami Жыл бұрын
Have you seen Dizzy's idle anim in Xrd? That's the S+ tier idle anim right there.
@WraxTV
@WraxTV Жыл бұрын
Ranking characters off their idle animation? I call that "Idle Showdown."
@Malthy
@Malthy Жыл бұрын
As a legit Aki viewer, I gotta tell ya, she's fairly low on the Hololive tier list so to see her crushing it in a game - and a fighting game at that! - has us all tickled with glee that she's gotten some of the spotlight. No animosity for anyone who thinks she's OD in the game, we're just happy to see it. Rosetai all the way!
@BananaMate
@BananaMate Жыл бұрын
Aki’s been blessed/cursed by the Gods to excel in any and everything that’s not her regular content.
@Fishman465
@Fishman465 Жыл бұрын
​@BananaMate it's more she's unlucky af and has visibility issues since her big surgery. Be it music, dancing, comedy, she's high end, but for whatever reason people sleep on her hard (thankfully the other talents don't)
@Bobbias
@Bobbias Жыл бұрын
Fun fact for anyone who doesn't already know: kawaii is very close to kowai, meaning scary.
@2000Doriyas
@2000Doriyas Жыл бұрын
If you just say “Ka-wai” they definitely think you’re saying they’re scary, you have to specifically say “Ka-wai-ii” to mean cute, had a hilarious moment with friends taking pictures of some Japanese girls in Kyoto last month learning that
@KFP_ES2
@KFP_ES2 Жыл бұрын
Okay that's hilarious. Like, it's insane, but I can't even be upset since the end result is just way too funny. Hope no Japanese content creators end up actually being harassed or anything though.
@jeppyjep
@jeppyjep Жыл бұрын
The funny part is Kazunoko scared of triggering vtuber fans. I cant imagine seeing other FGC gods like Daigo, Momochi and Tokido being scared of vtuber fans lmao.
@PotionSmeller
@PotionSmeller Жыл бұрын
Vtuber fans are fucking rabid. I'm scared to imagine what a showdown between them and LTG would look like.
@BronzeAgePepper
@BronzeAgePepper Жыл бұрын
I think non-Japanese content creators feel the same way, like when I saw all the videos Maximilian Dood was making of it I was like "you brave soul, you're going to get people complaining for sure" (but likely not too many, and not from idol vtuber fans but people who vehemently dislike them)
@NaoyaYami
@NaoyaYami Жыл бұрын
@@rasurin Sad reality is, it can't be taken as a simple joke. We're talking about hardcore otaku simps.
@Xonarag
@Xonarag Жыл бұрын
​@@NaoyaYami Yeah I think for western content creators it would be fine, like there ARE rabid fans here as well but japanese fans go really hard with that stuff.
@mysticjuicer01
@mysticjuicer01 Жыл бұрын
holy shit, I need to see tierlists with a "Bless Your Heart" tier lmaooooo
@Tactavious
@Tactavious Жыл бұрын
Funny thing is; Aki as a vtuber would probably be considered "low-tier" in terms of viewers, subs, etc. I love her to bits and the fact that she (and the others) are stirring up the FGC indirectly is just infinitely funny to me.
@gachatookthekids
@gachatookthekids Жыл бұрын
"Niche" might be a better way of putting it
@trysephiroth007
@trysephiroth007 Жыл бұрын
If you're looking at vtubers in general she's way up there in subs viewership ect. Def the top 1%
@Ion0X
@Ion0X Жыл бұрын
Anji was definitely a Bless Your Heart level character on launch strive 😂
@AdamJorgensen
@AdamJorgensen Жыл бұрын
I love this new tierlist regime. I-No is, without a doubt, doing her damn best!
@mattsheehan3604
@mattsheehan3604 Жыл бұрын
Perhaps daru is just very cute 🤔
@jeppyjep
@jeppyjep Жыл бұрын
Xrd Elphelt is kawaii
@Raidanzoup
@Raidanzoup Жыл бұрын
Getting to hear Sajam say chou kawaii is a weirdly unexpected boon I guess
@Bobbias
@Bobbias Жыл бұрын
While they might have been thinking "haha funny meme game" I'm not at all surprised it hit 500k downloads so quickly. Hololive is much bigger than people outside the scene usually think. While they aren't nearly as large as the largest channels on KZbin with 10s of millions of subs, they've got quite a few channels which have broken a million subs, and several with notably higher counts. On top of the sheer number of fans in the scene, games like this appeal to communities outside the vtuber scene as well, drawing interest from an even wider group of people.
@logon-oe6un
@logon-oe6un Жыл бұрын
Actually weren't english hololive most of the top earning channels of KZbin a while ago? (Around 2021 maybe)
@JollibeenosHasYourCoordinates
@JollibeenosHasYourCoordinates Жыл бұрын
​@@logon-oe6un No, Actually, If I remember correctly, it's the JP Members who are on the top lists.
@snowys4168
@snowys4168 Жыл бұрын
@@JollibeenosHasYourCoordinates The top earning hololive member is EN, 2 of the top 5 are EN.
@JollibeenosHasYourCoordinates
@JollibeenosHasYourCoordinates Жыл бұрын
@@snowys4168 Oh, then I was wrong. I swear, though, I thought I knew it was Pekora or Rushia.
@FuMiO02110
@FuMiO02110 Жыл бұрын
​@@JollibeenosHasYourCoordinates Rushia was the top earner back then, and pretty close with Coco, but Pekora are the most watched Female streamer (this year at least and Miko not that far behind)
@jeppyjep
@jeppyjep Жыл бұрын
Someone said that this is the modern version of Sailor Moon S.
@HeirofDacia
@HeirofDacia Жыл бұрын
That's the best compliment a fighting game could get.
@jeppyjep
@jeppyjep Жыл бұрын
@@HeirofDacia Agree. Sailor Moon S is the best fighting game ever.
@mikejonesnoreally
@mikejonesnoreally Жыл бұрын
Yeah but Sajam, "Cute", "Top Tier" and "Entry Level Fun" are words that are *meant* to go together. See also: *Sakura* :3
@yeahey5947
@yeahey5947 Жыл бұрын
I played alpha 2 for almost a week and had to stop cause she just kept bodying me and flashing her panties
@RobbieBoBobby
@RobbieBoBobby Жыл бұрын
Imma try this game. I'll pick the grappler and get twerked on.
@tjhunter9787
@tjhunter9787 Жыл бұрын
You can do some really scary stuff with Coco, albeit she has the same flaws as other grapplers despite her having a mid range move and a super armour grab.
@nikodemossowski4621
@nikodemossowski4621 Жыл бұрын
it's the grappler who twerks literally
@FuMiO02110
@FuMiO02110 Жыл бұрын
@@nikodemossowski4621 Literally oi oi oi
@karue7581
@karue7581 Жыл бұрын
I hope they add Oishii Steve next
@sympathy422
@sympathy422 Жыл бұрын
I'm just enjoying the interactions between the different communities.
@Istillduno
@Istillduno Жыл бұрын
This just makes Suisei's regular greeting better lol The secret tech is if your oshi is an assist, then you can just find someone with the best gri- 死のほどかわいいこと and go nuts lol
@mappybc6097
@mappybc6097 Жыл бұрын
Shinohodokawaiikoto.... My Japanese is rusty af. That's cute bordering on deadly?
@Istillduno
@Istillduno Жыл бұрын
@@mappybc6097 its not one I propperly learned, yours sounds right taking it literally but Coco used to say if something was shinohodo(whatever) it was (whatever) as fuck lol
@mappybc6097
@mappybc6097 Жыл бұрын
@@Istillduno 👍 Thanks.
@yagoosidol6338
@yagoosidol6338 Жыл бұрын
@@mappybc6097 @istillduno you missed 1 letter. it is 死ぬほどかわいい (shinuhodokawaii) which means so cute i could die.
@jorgesaavedra4676
@jorgesaavedra4676 Жыл бұрын
"Sui-chan is.... KYOU MO KAWAII" lmao
@TheVeryHungrySingularity
@TheVeryHungrySingularity Жыл бұрын
"war crime commited by this vtuber" it's very interesting you say that considering the character coming out next _AH↓HA↑HA↑HA↑HA↑_
@shymera
@shymera Жыл бұрын
yasashii is a gentle kind of kindness and it makes the vocab kinda hilarious
@yagoosidol6338
@yagoosidol6338 Жыл бұрын
fun fact: it also means easy different kanji tho
@cpm250293
@cpm250293 Жыл бұрын
I remember something similar that happened when Holocure released and people started to tweet about Choco's horns being the best (being the best healing item at the moment), then the real Choco was confused about why a lot of people suddenly loved her horns.
@Fishman465
@Fishman465 Жыл бұрын
And when they got nerfed (high hp upgrade, not felt at lower ones), all the people acting like they got ruined sort of killed her interest in the game. No idea if she'll touch it as last time she somehow lost her 0.5 or such data and got 3.0 and insisted on playing that for some reason. Ironically in 0.5 they got buffed rather nicely
@mstrikerwildrift
@mstrikerwildrift Жыл бұрын
Zako Queen
@oracidrep
@oracidrep Жыл бұрын
I love how he pronounces kawaii, whether or not he does it knowing how it should be pronounced.
@2000Doriyas
@2000Doriyas Жыл бұрын
Those characters are so adorable they’re scary
@tabkg5802
@tabkg5802 Жыл бұрын
BBCF tier lists be like: Izanami and Rachel - very cute Izayoi and Nine - cute Nu and Tsubaki - doing their best Noel and Celica - gentle Actually kinda accurate when you think about it
@fluffykitten077
@fluffykitten077 Жыл бұрын
I hope the "cuteness" tier lists become a thing in the whole of FGC
@scatzilla99
@scatzilla99 Жыл бұрын
"I'm sure you know how much of a war crime is being commited by this v-tuber" just wait 'till Pekora gets added to the game.
@Fishman465
@Fishman465 Жыл бұрын
Some are kinda touchy about Aki as this is a rare boon to the vtuber (who rarely has an easy time of it, particularly in visibility) and people fear a nerf hitting too hard would make no one play her thus negate that (because the effort needed is too high for the payout). That's real likely with characters of Aki's type. She's the only not so successful hololive member in the game and it feels like their difficulties are based on their careers, thus Aki being one of the hardest characters to learn, second to Sora (whose firsr stream only had 13 people). Characters like Korone and Botan had pretty blessed careers in comparison. But I won't lie, I did get a kick out of hearing about AK mains wreaking havoc because it's a rare win for Aki. But on the FGC side of things, people seem more inclined to overlook an OP character if they're easy and/or cool and more inclined to call for nerfs if they're not. Examples of each are Aegis from smash ultimate and Melee Jiggypuff. There's also the era of Yun in I think USF4.
@NeoBoneGirl
@NeoBoneGirl Жыл бұрын
It's funny hearing people go "Happy Chaos is too grimy I don't wanna play Strive" cuz I think the grime levels in Strive are critically low
@notimeforcreativenamesjust3034
@notimeforcreativenamesjust3034 Жыл бұрын
It's grimy because full screen shield break in a game with barely any defensive options.
@dankgothtrash
@dankgothtrash Жыл бұрын
@@notimeforcreativenamesjust3034 What does Guard Brrak even do that's so strong?
@kook8473
@kook8473 Жыл бұрын
Yeah chaos is actually a hella fun matchup at like low/mid level
@Assassin21BEKA
@Assassin21BEKA Жыл бұрын
​@@kook8473What is considered low mid level? Im around 6-7th floor and fighting him feels horrible, its like fighying Axel, but you don't feel good even when you finally reach him becauaw Chaos can fight in melee almost as well as other characters.
@BRAZILIAN_MIKU
@BRAZILIAN_MIKU Жыл бұрын
​@@Assassin21BEKA the low/mid level fun against chaos is the "i can't quarter circle foward" level till the "i can quarter circle foward sometimes" level
@number0912
@number0912 Жыл бұрын
The true Idol Showdown tier list should looks like this : Best Girl Seiso Idol Comedian
@zhaoyun255
@zhaoyun255 Жыл бұрын
Don't worry. When Pekora released, Warcrime is allowed. That Rabbit is a WALKING WARCRIME.
@masterofdoom5000
@masterofdoom5000 Жыл бұрын
Do not fear the top tier that excels in the top level play, fear the nightmare that dominates your level of play. Fear the grappler at the entry level play, know terror from the zoner in the mid level play.
@ODDnanref
@ODDnanref Жыл бұрын
Coco does seem like a nightmare at entry level. Then again, Korone was pretty cracked until people started figuring out other characters.
@tjhunter9787
@tjhunter9787 Жыл бұрын
Sajam WAAAAAAAAAAA kyo mou kawaii
@FwapoMcGee
@FwapoMcGee Жыл бұрын
This is hilarious, because it sounds like he’s saying “kowai” (ko-wai meaning scary) instead of “kawaii” (ka-wai-i meaning cute)
@AishiYoutube
@AishiYoutube Жыл бұрын
FGC OGs grassroots throwing sticks to throwing hands over money matches, salty runbacks, and lifelong beef: "Nah but those idol fans are actually crazy be careful what you say"
@dylanh.3793
@dylanh.3793 Жыл бұрын
I think the idea is not that people don’t play games because they see certain characters as “powerful” more so as “not fun to play against.” It’s an important distinction to make.
@codokay6008
@codokay6008 Жыл бұрын
Not to mention the game is really new, we don't know all the nastiest stuff, or best counters to everything yet. You can't just go "That too strong" and not play when you've barely played
@smokepotion6981
@smokepotion6981 Жыл бұрын
"bless your heart tier" needs to be on every tier list. It's the most southern thing i've heard all day.
@musicwalls
@musicwalls Жыл бұрын
The whole "code words for tiers" thing is just a joke that started from one Japanese FGC streamer. It's just a meme but because of that one tweet misinterpreting it, everyone who doesn't speak Japanese thinks it's completely, 100% unironic.
@Hoshino_Aoi
@Hoshino_Aoi Жыл бұрын
so basically, nothing actually happened and it just knee jerk reaction that spiral into a new funny tier list terms?
@musicwalls
@musicwalls Жыл бұрын
@@Hoshino_Aoi Correct, but now since one guy tweeted about it in English, all the non-Japanese people think Vtuber fans are insane.
@Hoshino_Aoi
@Hoshino_Aoi Жыл бұрын
F, honestly from what I've seen, the Hololive fandom is pretty chill for the most part, rarely you get drama It's always the loud minority that gives the bad impression huh
@terminal_
@terminal_ Жыл бұрын
Thread OP here, I agree that a lot of people are just doing it cause it's funny but if it's just a meme how come I literally can't find a single normal japanese idol showdown tier list posted anywhere on twitter
@Hoshino_Aoi
@Hoshino_Aoi Жыл бұрын
@@terminal_ I've only seen 1 tier list so far and it's on Dialphone channel on YT and the man using the term
@5boxes
@5boxes Жыл бұрын
I play Aki and seeing that Aki player makes me want to get at least 10% as good as that. To me, getting a character to be "broken" like that is almost impossible as I'm like most other casual fighting game player, we play against the arcade or AI and then only sometimes play online and get wrecked by randoms. The player being that good at the character shouldn't really be seen as the character itself being OP since the online mode of the game isn't even complete. Getting a more polished matchmaking would allow the devs to tweak the characters later, but right now there are probably many crouching tigers and hidden dragons that could be as good or even better than that Aki player. Tbh, if a fighting game pro says that Aki isn't good I would go to the dev and beg them for a buff instead of dog piling the pro because of his opinion. Holocure, another Hololive fan game, had a bunch of tierlists about which characters are good, easy to play or what characters can get you the highest dps, money or time survived. (If the leaderboard wasn't broken the game would also be somewhat of a competitive game.) So making a an Idol Showdown character tierlist wouldn't really cause problems... especially since the devs are constantly fixing and tweaking the game to polish it. If you don't bad mouth the characters you don't really need to be afraid of liking or disliking their playstyle. (Do people actually bad mouth fighting game characters because other people play better?) *Unless* you're really looking for drama and clicks, to do that you only need to make a tierlist of which Idol Showdown character has the best hips and *NOT* put Coco and Aki at the top. That would really rile up some fans lol
@dingusdangus9299
@dingusdangus9299 Жыл бұрын
Aki just makes me want another Jojo HFTF game.
@TariTariTariTariTari
@TariTariTariTariTari Жыл бұрын
As primarily a vtuber fan going into this, the thought of FGC having to tiptoe around crazy fans is hilarious, but also I kind of appreciate it. Not to say going after people for talking about a video game is right, but these characters are based on real people. That small bit of separation feels polite with that context, we all know what we mean when we call Aki cute, but not using the words bad, awful, or how we hate her character feels like the right thing to do when she's a person that's active on youtube and twitter and the like.
@yagoosidol6338
@yagoosidol6338 Жыл бұрын
yea also while they meant no harm, crazy drama clippers could still cut it out of context.
@rockyterman6904
@rockyterman6904 Жыл бұрын
But also it makes vtuber fans look kinda crazy not being able to seperate the game character from the personality. I dont think it is a good thing tbh.
@cuttlefish6839
@cuttlefish6839 Жыл бұрын
​@@rockyterman6904 while I agree with you completely its best to avoid a situation than to provoke one especially when it's real people involved. If this was just anime characters it wouldn't matter.
@petervilla5221
@petervilla5221 Жыл бұрын
At first i was worried that injecting vtubers into the fgc would bring cutesy otaku culture along with it. Now im ecstatic that injecting vtubers into the fgc brought cutesy otaku culture along with it. Kawaii tier mixup, funniest shit ive heard all day.
@VerbalLearning
@VerbalLearning Жыл бұрын
My japanese isn't good enough to do this but i'm trying to figure out a way to combine the word "kusoge" with some of these cutesy vtuber/idol terms to "hide" the kusoge so it doesn't sound like you're being salty.
@BronzeAgePepper
@BronzeAgePepper Жыл бұрын
"one-off stream game"
@Arassar
@Arassar Жыл бұрын
Oh man, tons of the Hololive girls have crazy stories and Aki has one of the craziest. If you're interested, look up "How Overseas Fans Changed Aki Rosenthal's Life" and "Aki cries after watching video of Mukiroze Cosplayer who got saved by Aki." Super heartwarming stuff.
@abxy2257
@abxy2257 Жыл бұрын
Nah no thanks
@Cosmoman78
@Cosmoman78 Жыл бұрын
@@abxy2257 Fair, no worries.
@Fishman465
@Fishman465 Жыл бұрын
There's comedic stories Iike how she drank a two straw drink with her nose or the whole seashell bra story (not as racy as it sounds)
@ArxGaming67
@ArxGaming67 Жыл бұрын
It'd be real hecking cuterino if we could get some extra frames on that Teleport I tell ya what.
@LLL74123
@LLL74123 Жыл бұрын
I guess you need to be an adult to separate videogame characters from real virtual characters
@Boyzby
@Boyzby Жыл бұрын
The difference between you enjoying the game despite being rekt by Aki is that you play fighting games and are used to this. Most people who pick up the game have never touched a fighting game before, like how I picked up P4A solely because I loved Persona and then I got owned by Maziodyne spam from Elizabeth. I hope there's ranked or ELO or whatever, because having to deal with the messed up stuff and long combos as a low level player would be pretty bad for retaining a large part of the playerbase/fans.
@joao20able
@joao20able Жыл бұрын
Maziodyne spam just sounds like classic one move spam, level 1 strategy. If you can't handle it, thats like failing to write your name at a test - ELO ain't gonna help.
@gamelord12
@gamelord12 Жыл бұрын
Every game's got despicable stuff, and you likely won't see it as a beginner for a while, but I've still been turned off by certain games' exact brand of despicable high-level stuff, because I know it's going to be a deal-breaker if I ever make it that high. So at that point, I'll spend my time playing a game that, as far as I know, doesn't have that deal-breaker. Like I wish I knew DNF Duel's deal-breakers before I bought it, but without a training mode in the beta, it made a very strong first impression when no one knew how to play it.
@victorpurificacao2855
@victorpurificacao2855 Жыл бұрын
Ok, when is Sajam making a kawai tier list for idol showdown? That shit will be funny
@Draconic74
@Draconic74 Жыл бұрын
One of the fun things of this fandom of late is seeing people willingly jump into a part of it that has extended to their own sphere of interest, then be completely clueless to all the in-jokes, terms, and personalities within. But games like Idol Showdown and Holocure are actually fun enough that they endure and just have to make up their own headcanon, or actually decide to learn. Sorry about the bad eggs who can't just be happy their favorite is even in a game, but its really interesting to see new terminology crop up to try and circumvent that.
@ODDnanref
@ODDnanref Жыл бұрын
Yeah, all these complaints about characters not being strong when some are not even assists.
@TheToxic4venger
@TheToxic4venger Жыл бұрын
Not sure they are saying cho kawaii (super cute), more likely they are saying cho kowai (super scary)
@CodemanS1
@CodemanS1 Жыл бұрын
I thought the reason why "Cute" was in quotes in the video title was because Sajam was simply too afraid to admit how adorable he finds V-tubers. Turns out the real reason is WAY funnier. Aki is indeed "cute" as hell lol
@cheeseboy2251
@cheeseboy2251 Жыл бұрын
I still find it so surreal seeing two of my communities crossover to this extent. Seriously didn’t expect idol showdown to blow up like this.
@David-yk9fy
@David-yk9fy Жыл бұрын
Thank God there isn't a category that says Cute and Funny, or Uooohhh!!!
@elneco4654
@elneco4654 Жыл бұрын
Maybe when Gura makes it in.
@pizzaboy220
@pizzaboy220 Жыл бұрын
I am in ganbatteru tier irl
@StanNotSoSaint
@StanNotSoSaint Жыл бұрын
Bless Her Heart tier should be a thing
@lunafoxfire
@lunafoxfire Жыл бұрын
Jesus I'm really outing myself here, but as someone who first got into fighting games because of that My Little Pony: Fighting is Magic fan game from like 10 years ago, this whole thing has been really funny to me. Just the thought of accidentally getting a whole fandom into fighting games makes me smile on the inside.
@PUNCHEDPUNCHEDPUNCHED
@PUNCHEDPUNCHEDPUNCHED Жыл бұрын
Funny enough, if you apply this to JP tier lists where they rank the best player of the character, basically you end up with stuff like "Daigo is the cutest"😂
@dallahan7879
@dallahan7879 Жыл бұрын
Seeing Marvel 3 at high level just makes it not look that fun too play whether I'm doing disgusting setups or on the receiving end of it.
@crisdanpadilla9861
@crisdanpadilla9861 Жыл бұрын
Oh goodness wait till they release pekora 😂 she better be "very cute" or her fans will riot
@rinkujoka232
@rinkujoka232 Жыл бұрын
Nah we have a special tier for her.... Warcriminal
@stevestrangelove4970
@stevestrangelove4970 Жыл бұрын
I got a super kawaii combo with coco using smal ame groundpound as an ender. She is still trying her best.
@nuclearcoconut3664
@nuclearcoconut3664 Жыл бұрын
this is especially applicable to mbaacc. there are maybe two active competent croa players in all of north america but the char has such a reputation that ive seen new players quit out on char select vs him
@cookiecreep9204
@cookiecreep9204 Жыл бұрын
I was wrong all along, labcoat 21 is just Chou Kawaii!
@samuraileo1
@samuraileo1 Жыл бұрын
Reminds me of the NLBC days of grandblue vs. Spooky would call really nasty setups and tool “honorable”. I feel for the fgc streamers trying to do their usual thing with idol showdown. The toxic people accosting them are the same type of people that go after actors for following their script.
@pilaf43
@pilaf43 Жыл бұрын
Getting dribbled by Botan's cute moves is very POI
@mukaonline3
@mukaonline3 Жыл бұрын
Aki zonning vs raptor grabber...
@SoMuchNoise1
@SoMuchNoise1 Жыл бұрын
Guys I gotta know, is Coco gentle 🥺
@s07195
@s07195 Жыл бұрын
For now.
@ronyheat91
@ronyheat91 Жыл бұрын
This innovation in tier lists is good. Can't wait to see "trying his best" tier since that's what I value most in a character.
@bleachs4660
@bleachs4660 Жыл бұрын
Anytime something pisses sajam off and makes him start bitching in fighting games a swan finds its true love
@pite9
@pite9 Жыл бұрын
That Aki user won a fairly high profile competition yesterday. So that's something to keep in mind. Aki will probably get nerfed, but I think it's too early to do it now. Maybe the top players will figure out some way to deal with the teleport and Mukirose pressure.
@s07195
@s07195 Жыл бұрын
Where can I watch?
@typers5006
@typers5006 Жыл бұрын
They are half joking, half serious. I honestly find it amusing that this meme allows the words of Kazunoko and he colleagues to be nitpicked by the viewers.
@remigengogakusha
@remigengogakusha Жыл бұрын
Adding the phrase "getting twerked on" makes any sentence funny 😹(Sajam describing a match vs an Aki user)
@Sheenulus
@Sheenulus Жыл бұрын
I played this game for like a few hours with my friends, asked one of them who their favorite Hololive person was, and just mained that character because I don't know shit about VTubers. Got Korone, she turns into Mario, makes a little "NYAH" sound when she does jumping M, and has the chainsaw from Doom. We are also pretty big anime fans, and by extension all like Chainsaw Man, so it was a great fit tbh. 9/10 (Very Cute Tier, if you will) Character, would skip neutral with Chainsaw again.
@edenromanov
@edenromanov Жыл бұрын
It spunds like you're daying Kowai = Scary rather than Kawaii = Cute to distinguish the difference in these two very similar sounding words you have to remember that Kawaii sounds like "Kawa - E" And Kowai is "Co-why". Also as a member of the Hololive fan community you have my sympathies unfortunately there's not much that can be done about our more rabid fans, best response is to just ignore them they're mostly harmless as long as you don't feed the fire.
@thatmtrx1421
@thatmtrx1421 Жыл бұрын
AHAHAHAHA as someone getting into idol showdown as their first fg it would be genius to see sajam be introduced to vtubers by someone who's clueless about fg, and then being taught how to play
@derekdidear3575
@derekdidear3575 Жыл бұрын
this is my favorite time to be alive
@adamrussell9573
@adamrussell9573 Жыл бұрын
Bro I kept telling everyone Happy Chaos is so cute, and none of y'all listened
@gachatookthekids
@gachatookthekids Жыл бұрын
I really do hope there's no real dog-piling happening outside of the typical small group of creeps whom we have to deal with inside the community every now and then. However, the code words and the intense fear of Vtuber fans is incredibly funny to me ngl.
@SeanCrosser
@SeanCrosser Жыл бұрын
I think it's less so than abject fear of toxic fans than it is them not wanting to say things about the characters, who is a real people, using bad words. Especially when the Vtubers didn't have a hand in their character's movelist or balancing.
@hikkun_ch
@hikkun_ch Жыл бұрын
A little thing that made me giggle is that your pronunciation of kawaii sounds like another japanese word, kowai Wich means scary, or sometimes can be used as nasty too That was a trivia I did not know, it makes sense as they are real people and saying things like "XX sucks" can be dangerous when salty lol
@The-toast
@The-toast Жыл бұрын
Botan is so fucked u- ... ... ... I love Botan dude she's so cool
@oklimbo
@oklimbo Жыл бұрын
This is gonna be one of those ironic things that eventually just gets adopted unironically and without context isn't it
@TechJD27
@TechJD27 Жыл бұрын
This is the funniest shit thats happening to the FGC lol
@Walpurgisnackt
@Walpurgisnackt Жыл бұрын
I'm just waiting for them to add an idol I'm more familiar with. Holo council when
@karatefylla
@karatefylla Жыл бұрын
holy shit that's the funniest thing I've heard in a long while, got an abs workout from laughing so hard.
@salha60ify
@salha60ify Жыл бұрын
Aki is the cutest thing in the world😊 Every time I see her in the screen i see myself jumping and saying all the nice things I can think of and she make me want to give my controller a nice little headpat😊
@braketbro2318
@braketbro2318 Жыл бұрын
I would love to say this is a overreaction and most of us wouldn't be mad about saying a character is weak or cheesy but then again some fans are something else 😬
@Eilanzer
@Eilanzer Жыл бұрын
this video was funny as hell XD keep them coming!
@jeppyjep
@jeppyjep Жыл бұрын
Sajam always talks about fighting game issues or complaints. He talks about it for every fighting games.
@BeefBossu
@BeefBossu Жыл бұрын
The Vtuber fighting game secret codes is one of the most histerical things I have *ever* seen
@VisoredKuzu
@VisoredKuzu Жыл бұрын
Funny thing is most of the moves the gals have are something that is attach to their lore or memes. Like with Aki I know she has a buff alter ego as a stand and her twin tails are remote controlled but I didn't know she could teleport or shoot energy balls
@ODDnanref
@ODDnanref Жыл бұрын
Her hair has a bunch of different uses. Most of the random ones come from holo no Grafitti or HoloGra for short.
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