Yanis Varoufakis on Argentina, Amazon and Uber (Part 4)

The world-famous economist and former Greek Finance Minister joins Ash Sarkar to argue that capitalism is dead and present a game-changing new paradigm: technofeudalism. The owners of big tech have become the world's feudal overlords-replacing capitalism with a fundamentally new system that enslaves our minds, defies democracy, and rewrites the rules of global power. But as Varoufakis will also reveal, technofeudalism contains new opportunities to thwart and overturn it, bringing into focus more clearly than ever the revolution we need to escape our digital prison.Watch Ash and Yanis to have your eyes opened to the new power that is reshaping our lives and the
world.
Part 1 - "This is not Capitalism Anymore!" Yanis Varoufakis on Technofeudalism, Big and Big Tech • "This is not Capitalis...
Part 2 - Socialism or the Bankers" Yanis Varoufakis on What Killed Capitalism? • "Socialism for the Ban...
Part 3 - China VS America | Yanis Varoufakis on Big Tech, Capitalism and Techno-Feudalism • Yanis Varoufakis on Ar...
Part 4 - Yanis Varoufakis on Argentina, Amazon and Uber (Part 4) • Yanis Varoufakis on Ar...
#capitalism #china #novaralive #yanis #bigtech

[@MRRookie232]

Just upload these as a complete pieces of work rather than 4 separate segments. Absolutely jarring having to search for each segment separately.

[@kittygoesWOOF]

If you had opened the description, you would have seen all of them linked.

[@bartholomaeushonik3534]

This guy is so damn right and can explain global connections so wonderfully. I have attended around 120 parliamentary debates, including in the German Reichstag, and not once in a debate have I heard the sentence: “Aha, you're right with your arguments, I need to rethink mine”. I said to a liberal politician while smoking during a break: “Parliamentary debates are just for show, aren't they? The politician: Yes, exactly. I don't know about you, but I live in a Huxleyian distopia. There are drugs to counter dissatisfaction, media distractions, democracy is a theater, thousands of narratives are plastered all over us. Technologically we are reaching for the stars and culturally we still have one foot in the Middle Ages.

[@shyman3000]

Yes. 💯 I watched a lecture of his 3 years ago and came to the conclusion that Yanis has transcended economics and become a true ethical philosopher, in the classical sense. And having just watched this talk, it occurs to me that his whole presentation of technofeudalism is a way of delineating the reality we are going to be living in for the foreseeable future and thereby re-presenting the original philosophical question of free will. Technofeudalism by definition undermines one's free will. An ethical philosopher of the middle ages would argue that free will was given to us by God, and that we must choose the good. That it is the essence of our humanity. Yanis is making us aware of this, by accurately describing the almost completely determinate universe that we are going to be living in. We need to wake up to it.

[@bartholomaeushonik3534]

@@shyman3000 That is so true. I also have the impression that the components that define our era - as AI, populism, division and opinion bubbles, over-complexity, extreme speed of change, lack of resources, techno-feudalism/capitalism - all point in one direction, just as you write: The end of freedom. Perhaps the destruction of our civilisation. The powerful will cement their positions, we will all remain consumers or human waste at the bottom. Powerless and clueless. The crazy thing seems to me to be: The powerful don't know what they're doing either. They are simply following their Machiavellianism, their old methods with new means. That's why I'm standing up and doing something about it. Just like in the Nazi empire back then, there were fellow travellers and people who resisted. Most of the followers died. That's the ironic thing. But it's scary how little many people understand the global world on which they depend. They believe the ‘refugee crises’ are the problem.... ahahahahah.... It's like going to the doctor with pneumonia and being told: Your main problem is coughing.

[@DasRaetsel]

@@bartholomaeushonik3534 The most important thing is people have a *sense* of things amiss, however they do not know enough about the topic or if they do, don't know what to do about it. We need to convert ideas to action. There's an intuitive sense of malaise, which is being expressed through populist movements worldwide (whether they express themselves left or right). Which provides an opening. People *are* rebelling against a perceived sense of dread, the real question is how will those with good will and a love for truth and humanity DO about it?

[@bartholomaeushonik3534]

@@DasRaetsel It's exciting what you say about people sensing that something is getting extremely out of hand and expressing themselves ‘left & right’. So politically left & right. That's how I understand you. Ok, let me try to answer your question. Globally, we need a common agenda. And a few things should be clear imho: 1.we only have this planet and will not escape here, so need to treat it well (efficiently getting resources from external celestial bodies is a joke from Musk. Currently 1kg into orbit costs about 20000 $. In the long term, this requires a completely different tech than these ridiculous chemical propulsion systems) 2. inequality brings instability 3. domination through fear encourages the worst in people 4. poverty, despair, violence lead to more poverty, despair & violence 5. if everyone says USA first, germany first, etc. 99% will lose and the first one: probably too ;-) 6. voting in democracies is better than not voting (unless 100% don't vote), but western democracies are a farce, mostly a lie. 7. what matters today is not what politicians say, but what they don't say. 8. politicians will NOT save us. They only ever want to save themselves. 8 Animals are just as sentient, thinking living beings as we are. 10. charity is one of the best human attributes. I am politically active this fight is like David against 1000 Goliaths. But I can do something on an individual level: - no Amazon (Jeff Bezos, misanthrope) - no Paypal (Daniel Thiel, fascist, misanthrope) - no Tesla, is also not a car but a data octopus on 4 wheels - Eat less meat (once a week like in the Middle Ages) - support local people, business - no unpaid mail services (I'm still in) - do not give up

[@shyman3000]

@@bartholomaeushonik3534 "The powerful don't know what they're doing either." Agree a hundred percent. The elites seem to be the most desperate to cling to narratives of technological liberation and they are the most delusional about the current situation. " it's scary how little many people understand the global world on which they depend. " This i agree as well and for me this is my main concern. That there are some among the younger generations willing and able to wrap their heads around globalization and what it means. If not for the greater good than at least for their own sanity.

[@kittygoesWOOF]

I found this talk to be very enlightening. Yanis Varoufakis presented technofeudalism in a way that is engaging for the knowledgeable while having a relatively low entry-point for the average person. I look forward to reading his book when I have the chance.

[@madeline5188]

So glad that Yanis called out on Milei. It's crazy to hear so many Anglo capitalists that have sung his praises. That guy is clearly a fascist.

[@Heldarion]

At the same time, he completely failed to answer the question of "how he would deal with it". Good to hear a perspective on what's wrong with Milei, but that was a completely non-answer.

[@alanmcrae8594]

Lots to think about in this video, especially watching all four parts. Yanis makes a very strong case that Technofeudalism is indeed a new paradigm, as momentous a change as the one from medieval feudalism to corporate capitalism. Complaints about terms of service violations, threats of de-platforming, lack of subscriber transference to a different platform, declining rates of compensation, and defacto monopolization due to immense scale are starting to pile up, but content creators & online consumers are both trapped in the Technofeudalism digital paradigm with little or no significant options. Oh well, it always takes a while before governments begin to regulate new technologies - politicians have to wait until the public is aggrieved enough to demand action. In the meantime, there are probably sub-committees looking into this matter...

[@merseybeat1963]

What all four Parts ? Only #1 #2 and #4..Number 3 is not there. Can you post a link ?

[@mrwilliamz311]

@@merseybeat1963The four parts are listed in the info section. They should autoplay, but if not you can do it manually.

[@mrwilliamz311]

I so want to agree with your assessment, but you misunderstand what government is; that deserves a rethink. You can find Larken Rose’s ‘The Most Dangerous Superstition’ in audiobook form on KZbin. Give it 10m and see whether you still think ‘government’ regulations are in any way motivated by the whinings of the modern-day proletariat. I’ve been asking the same question Rose presents for years. Why more people are not asking themselves this question is the biggest problem we have.

[@SnackFatson]

Who is the white male trespassing onto my mother’s property and pissing on the house?

[@arstr3556]

@@alanmcrae8594 Regulations from the government are the most evil thing you can do to the economy. People who argue for regulations are ignorant or evil or both! Free markets are always self regulated. Tell me one example that government regulations hasn't created chaos? It's like trying to regulate the weather...

[@Victoria-Enzula]

Love, love, love you Yani. Much respect Comrade.

[@jaysphilosophy1951]

Thanks for all you do Yanis.......

[@Dinofaustivoro]

Argentina doesnt have bloated spending, but starved cashing. Every export sector is controlled by multinational corporations, and there is no way to avoid flight capitals.

[@tadeogalvan565]

podés dar un ejemplo de un sector exportador controlado por una multinacional por favor?

[@jul371-y5p]

MonsantoBayer y la agricultura Grupo Volkswagen con la exportación vehicular La industria siderúrgica que conglomera a ALUAR y Siderar como las únicas exportadoras con una Holding en Panamá

[@Pochi_23]

COFCO, Viterra, Cargill, ArcelorMittal, Lurding Mining, Glencore, Arcadium Lithium, PAEG (BRIDAS Corp. & BP) and so on...

[@jul371-y5p]

@@Pochi_23 esa arcelor mittal la dueña de siderar y aluar

[@aharonaarons4636]

And for many many years it has been impossible to grow to a level of being able to compete in that sector... many companies were not even able to PRODUCE at a decent scale, due to restrictions on the imports (and on the dollar) and/or unpayable debt to their providers. The issue of government imposed restrictions has been perhaps THE most harmful thing for companies. These policies have clearly changed now, so we shall see how Argentine companies manage to compete and influence the economy.

[@theodorepage6087]

Great show yani comrd ,, love from Dublin Ireland .

[@sveinkikals7876]

Make the Cloud Capitalists pay by not using their sites on Black Friday, make Amazon, Uber ... and all the others pay on Black Friday by Boycotting them.

[@Victoria-Enzula]

I have never bought from Amazon. I go to local farmers markets for as much as I can.

[@anfieldreds_1892]

50 % of items sold on amazon is by small part time businesses. Just like ebay. and that includes items that comes in amazon marked boxes

[@B_Estes_Undegöetz]

No amount of this “I don’t buy from Amazon and I support my local … blah de blah …” will solve the problems described by this video. Kumbaya opting out of the system will not protect anyone from the consequences of this fundamental change to the large scale economy we ALL must use and live within. The “cloud capitalists” new economy, based upon the extraction of huge quantities of unpaid labor by users is having by a profound effect by causing a major reduction in aggregate demand across the entirety of the economy. When people refused to use trains it didn’t stop the railways from fundamentally changing the natural environment and capitalist ruled governments from using eminent domain to take whatever land … even privately owned and small farmers lands … the railways deemed necessary to the spread of the system across the country. You might not be interested in Amazon and cloud capital … but ultimately it is very interested in all of us. As usual … it’s going to be socialism or barbarism, comrades.

[@mariadanielalavia8877]

@@B_Estes_Undegöetz yeah, usually the "I buy from small businesses/farmers" is just petit bourgeois mindset that you somehow have to help the incoming capitalists who in the people's head by virtue of not having as much finance nor production capacity are "better" or "good-er" it's just total rubbish. Small businesses usually either just go bankrupt or have to hire even cheaper labor than corporations do. that's why you don't see small business owners in Ohio complaining about Latinx and Haitian immigrants there even though most people who are laborers do (aside of racism) it's because it serves them to earn profits throughout labor exploitation. As Rosa luxembourg said, whoever is owner of ttheir own business is on the decision of either exploiting themselves and others, or to go out of business

[@xocoyotl4]

You're so cool!

[@Cosmos-n7t]

@@anfieldreds_1892 Something that wasnt mentioned in this interview is that Capitalism dies the moment you dont have FREE MARKETS ...the points of Yanis is that the moment when you ARE NOT GIVEN ALL THE OPTIONS in the marketplace is the moment IT IS NOT A FREE MARKET...cuz the algorithm makes the choice for you and helps whoever it deems helps NOT YOU THE PEASANT or the SELLER but THE FEUDAL LORD.

[@TBlack-qb1nb]

Yanis, always informative

[@directdemocracy133]

It is a three point plan. Global Direct Democracy so we all have power, a vote which governs the Peoples Council which is an evolution of the UN and the Sovereignty Triangle

[@SnackFatson]

Who is the white male trespassing onto my mother’s property and pissing on the house?

[@knightsandknaves]

Yanis Varoufakis suggests using synchronized global protests to impact stock prices as a way to challenge corporate power, this strategy could have unintended consequences. Specifically, the temporary drop in stock prices might benefit wealthy investors who can buy the stock at a lower price and profit when it rebounds. This could ultimately reinforce wealth inequality rather than achieving meaningful systemic change. Instead of focusing on stock prices, you suggest targeting broader business practices or advocating for regulatory reforms to create more sustainable and equitable outcomes.

[@Victoria-Enzula]

@@knightsandknaves eff the stock market. Get all those trust fund babies of the jugular of the rest of us.

[@knightsandknaves]

@@Victoria-Enzula Instead of bailouts, we should focus on buyouts-taking over banks and their infrastructure. A national bank, operating outside the stock market, would prioritize public welfare over profit. Backed by the government, it would safeguard citizens' savings, provide stable and secure banking, and avoid market-driven volatility. By offering free or low-cost services, it would ensure financial inclusion for all. This model prioritizes long-term stability and trust, positioning the bank as a key pillar for strengthening democracy and economic resilience. This approach shifts away from bailing out private banks, creating a proactive, publicly accountable financial system.

[@Victoria-Enzula]

@@knightsandknaves I like this idea

[@lugendopaul1739]

@@knightsandknaves When it's time the system will fail... Hard times unite people

[@kastanpastan338]

Yanis gave an example of how we could use our power as consumers together with the knowledge of technology against CloudCapital...He cited this to point out that we need to evolve the ways we fight the system using technology

[@riazibm1]

I respect you sir !!!

[@ARBITRAGEandTIME]

❤❤ this!

[@galileo_rs]

How about posting the whole thing and not chopping it up in endless pieces?

[@juanfrancodilorenzo2016]

finally someone that is informed and can answer about Argentina

[@muiponcomuiponco772]

"finally someone that is informed and can answer about Argentina" and the guy compares Argentina with Gaza. I imagine that you are Argentine like me, my recommendation is that you get a brain transplant

[@MrJosedaluz]

Capitalism is now failed Capitalism, don't let yourself be fooled. So it is still Capitalism.

[@kerryf9399]

yeah its just for selling books and ideas that aren't new at all, its been capitalism and will be till it isn't. He wants to be more clever than Marx and Lenin. The point of these labels is to describe the impact on workers, whatever kind of feudal it is still equates to slavery. Rather than a new paradigm for capitalism I see as as a retrogressive move back wards. Actually it will be easier to fight against because its not hiding behind liberalism anymore.

[@tuckerbugeater]

i'm sure your solution is best LOL

[@victorfergn]

It's a mixture

[@donellessame9194]

where can we watch the entire con without cut at all?

[@cheeweeiteoh4545]

The problem as a engineer solve problem is selecting leaders in a democratic way that can produce competent and experience leaders that can see through all this deception of capitalist hegemony. Without solving this, getting power back and then being managed by incompetent leaders, we just go through a round and round problem again later. At the very least the candidate up for election have tohave a minimum experience of XX years in managing economy from village through provicial and up.. Or a health minister candidate have to have minimum xx years of experience in the health sector to qualify for the job. Without setting this in place, any other way would just make the problem go round and round only. Resposibility is then being relayed to the next guy.

[@Victoria-Enzula]

@@cheeweeiteoh4545 One does not need to smith a sword to wield it. Engineers overrate their own judgement once the topic is not numerical equation juggling. Engineering is soulless when not for serving people. Engineers desperately need to balance their psyches. There are exceptions to this of course. I recommend a serious meditation practice with a reputable real guide.

[@cheeweeiteoh4545]

@@Victoria-Enzula Why suddenly this became a engineers issue. I am just stating a fact, if we are sick, we will go see a doctor who is qualified. If need to perform a surgery, if we can choose preferably should be experience and qualified. Why being a politician should be different, popularity without experience is just sending a incompetent guy to the parliment and being bamboozled and brainwash by different clowns in the system lobbying for their respective employers.Comparably, it is better to have a corrupted leader that is competent rather than a clean incompetent leader. At the very least the competent guy will not make structural major policy mistake that will affect the country for long years to come.

[@eiwhaz-tina6528]

YAAAANIIIIIS

[@BJKCjr]

It's time for the tech giants to be Standard Oiled

[@chipdamage9374]

We need to get Yanis in contact with Cory Doctorow

[@marksmit8112]

Cars were made cheaper through mechanization which was an increase in productivity. Low wages as extracting value from labour for profit is because productivity hasnt kept up. Profits according to classic formula is either way and of course cheaper capital. Traditional capitalism was industrial and now has become financial - what Yanis rebrands as cloud feudalism however this ignores the investment outside of internet.

[@Dinofaustivoro]

Argentina needs a Traore like the Sahel

[@photonicenrico]

Yep I was waiting for an autorevol economic intellectual like Yanis Varoufakis to start it !🙏🙏🙏 Well done ! Great illatment!!!

[@user-CIGAxScape]

... simple question and answer .. ... if you have years of fundamental ignorance in terms of Ethics, Morals and Business Rules, hiding Online one from another, what do you expect ?

[@dndx5]

Techno cucu cucu...I hope your books are selling well

[@Nomegustausarmimail]

I love the way he says "awful, consumerist apotheosis".

[@moussameman2221]

Paper tigers 😅😂

[@solocyclist3993]

Where is Part 1-3

[@lilypang7590]

❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤😂❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@Bosco._]

Desde Argentina, gracias Yanis 🇦🇷🇦🇷🇦🇷🇦🇷

[@LordSesshaku]

Desde Argentina, gracias Milei por poner a llorar a los zurdos defensores de chorros como Moyano, Grabois, Massa o Cristina. Revienten todos, nazis que gritan heil perón.

[@lxdekr]

is the 1st world ever gonna stop calling usa "america"

[@PaulHirsh]

Ash you are so gorgeous

[@cristophertheodoropoulospa1217]

The capitalism still the same...

[@Ross-v7r]

i love ash so much, she is wonderful

[@nlewin5072]

Isn't she? A natural at getting people to talk whilst knowing when to join in the conversation and progress it.

[@ulix4]

great

[@lilhyena7534]

this host 😢

[@ramanraghav1124]

Who is he saying clearly fascist not anarcho capitalist?

[@martindione386]

president Milei of Argentina, a clinically diagnosed psychotic that makes Bolsonaro look like a tree-hugging hippie

[@kittygoesWOOF]

Javier Milei, the president of Argentina.

[@assignmentuot7963]

Attacks to general scientist globally peace for opeing

[@Footballcornerworld]

One of the most interesting questions for me is, why should someone be legal and not addicted to crime? Why should someone fight for humanity when there are so many people who give a shit!! There is no real reason to live in laws!!!

[@santibarricada1609]

Guys I'm from Argentina. WTF are you saying when a memeber of the audience said that peronist governmets spend unproductively? The main factor of inflation here is the concentration of the consumer goods market and the lack of Dollars for a dependent industry.

[@ElSagardangas]

He also suggests that peronist governments have veered inherently corrupt, which might be true for parts of the kirchnerist term but not for perons term until '55. There are skewed points of view from the international community with respect to peronism as a political force.

[@KonradYerba]

Loo

[@alta1r_894]

The lack of Dollars comes from Peronist governments historically being hostile to foreign investment, often prioritizing state intervention and nationalization over private sector growth. This creates a business environment that is unattractive to foreign investors, who typically bring in large sums of dollars that could help stabilize the economy. and let's not forget the Peronism's excessive public spending and uncontrolled money printing that have been key drivers of Argentina’s high inflation

[@Artec619]

@@alta1r_894 You are right, that's why Macri had a 0 printing policy with high inflation AND he got IMF's biggest credit ever while making 45 billion USD vanish in thin air, and also currently Milei with yet another round of 0 printing policy is having massive inflation and covering it up or blaming others

[@FerraraFacundo]

@@ElSagardangas Also not descriptive of 2003-2013 kirchnerism, literally known as "The Won Decade"

[@assignmentuot7963]

All world technology digital ecosystem and commiucation system solar energy systems closing looked from research general scientist universal solar missile nuclear energy power technology digital ecosystem general scientist globally peace

[@assignmentuot7963]

Butt what is general scientist CEO of general scientist globally peace and CEO of international criminal court law of Islamic of general scientist globally peace

[@assignmentuot7963]

Mr yanis including justice group of international criminal court law of Islamic of general scientist globally peace and joint venture group COUNTRIES of general scientist globally peace

[@tuvieja4322]

Yannis’ ability to talk about Argentina’s situation is akin to that of a resentful child trying to adapt reality to his own conception. His characterization of Milei as a fascist is nothing other than a petty insult with no relation whatsoever to the nature of fascism. Comparing the “police oppression” of Buenos Aires to that of Gaza is so ridiculous it’s incredible that no one gasped in horror at this statement. I wonder where he got this information from since the streets of Buenos Aires have remained unchanged (if not more peaceful) than they were since Milei took office. In addition to this, him saying that Milei is trying to alienate the working class to benefit the big businesses is ridiculous considering the progress Milei is making in improving the conditions of small and medium sized enterprises in Argentina as well as removing millions of pesos worth of bogus bureaucratic steps that further stepped on workers’ necks. Not even get me started on the relief the housing market has gotten since he removed some rent control. The only assessment I give him credit for in that whole segment is when he mentioned the socialism for the few and Peronist corruption, but that is it

[@alanmonteros6432]

It's amazing how much bullshit you managed to spew

[@marcv2648]

His statements about Milei are the pinnacle of absurdity.

[@raulfernandezg]

Well said!

[@FerraraFacundo]

Violent repression forces publicly beating, gassing and intimidating protestors is "peace" by your standards. Just absurd. Grassroots movement referents and lifelong social workers are getting murdered in their homes, with killers leaving vendettas on the wall threathening lifes of family members. "Improving the conditions of small and medium sized enterprise in Argentina", over 10.000 PyMEs closed down these last 9 months lol (src: El Economista, Ámbito Financiero, et al). What the fuck are you talking about? What are these "bogus bureaucratic steps costing milliions" that got removed? you got any example or report on that? Housing market relieved? Lol, there's more homeless people than ever shambling around the streets even in downtown areas now. The AMBA housing market might be seeing a slight rebound increased activity because of missed renewals that turned into new deals, but the habitational crisis hasn't been handled in the slightest, only gotten exacerbated. Socialism for the few is exactly what Milei does when he gives Galperin multimillion dolar handouts whilst travelling abroad on religious/bogus prize related vacations alongside with his sister-wife and his retinue. Peronist were so corrupt, oh no, we topped regional salarial and development charts

[@veronicalecter]

@@tuvieja4322 OMG in which Argentina do you live in? The lower classes can't even afford a bus ticket. The elderly people of low income are choosing between eating or buying medicine. The remove of rent control is driving people to live back with their parents ! They removed all control over the already scant environmental protection policies. Truly man, how much are you paid to troll this?

[@Tomero22]

I disagree with most of it, but some points were interesting, thank you comrade

[@jagolago-bob]

Which parts did you agree with?

[@goedelite]

Since Y.Varoufakis cast blame on Pres Putin for his courageous defense of the Russian border with NATO arming Ukraine, I have lost respect for Y.V.

[@you-to-beornot-to-be9629]

Agree 100%.... he just kisses "S" for convenience.... all these speakers know it all but all they do is speak, write books.... would love to see these bla bla bla speakers prove themselves in the driving seat....

[@Lewis360]

One can be correct about one thing and be wrong about another. Plus Varoufakis expertise is in economics.

[@diosamurcielaga9418]

@@you-to-beornot-to-be9629 You do know Varufakis was the finance minister of Greece and how that rolled out?

[@jorgeluisgimenez9837]

This man has no idea of what Is actually going on in Argentina. Milei took a lot of measures AGAINST the banker's interest... This guy doesn't know what Milei is.

[@ShinigamiInuyasha777]

Trollazo detected

[@davidmurphy563]

Ah, good old Yanis. At the intersection of incompetence and entitlement.

[@Ahmed-iam]

ahahahah. He is best actually

[@tuckerbugeater]

@@Ahmed-iam best at what?

[@B_Estes_Undegöetz]

Tell us more; you’re clearly a genius. Don’t deny us the wisdom you’re so clearly blessed with comrade.

[@davidmurphy563]

@@B_Estes_Undegöetz Juba on the White Nile and a former British trading post is the capital of South Sudan. There, happy?

[@lesleybyron5069]

"What a terrible controlling parent I was" simply because I formed a temporary alliance with a small-c conservative parent whose encouragement of traditional family-based board games and long hikes and picnics in the woods and countryside where we once lived I had more in common with than an ignorant, rude, wealthy Mancunian whose child was allowed to spend all his time on game stations even though I had very little in common with either of them politically. Strangely, we were nowhere near as snobby and socially exclusive as the left elite. The conversation matters.......

[@Gandilaf3]

You are talking about class. Sadly nowadays politics is about culture war. Centrist defide by good and evil and the right defides by race.

[@nlewin5072]

I can't help but feel there's a really interesting comment there that's been very poorly executed/written/condensed. Needs expanding with more information and context.

[@cristophertheodoropoulospa1217]

The Varufakis dream are just web3 apps 😅

[@amelglez5391]

This guy literally called Milei a fascist even though the one true fascist in history, Bonito Mussolinni, was a socialist...lol

[@marcv2648]

Varoufakis is absurd. Peron modeled himself on Mussolini. Milei is the polar opposite. It is really disturbing that so many uninformed people will believe Varoufakis' nonsense.

[@FerraraFacundo]

Milei is it's own thing, can't be adequately cathegorized as a fascist because he's not a nationalist (Argentina being just an economic plaything to him), but he does believe in a hierarchy that must be imposed through whatever means necessary: "We're morally superior, aestethicaly superior and productively superior." ("we" being whoever Milei is referring to in the moment, seeing as that changes on the daily), he promotes and validates acts of violence against groups that practice dissent, and makes active use of the repressive power of the argentine state to opress and repress measures of opposition and protest, as well as using the state's economical regulation mechanisms to effectively control and manipulate the argentine market instead of actually releasing the prices to be market-defined (crawling peg exchange rate change, negative interest rate, limiting paritary increase). So he's not really an anarcho capitalist and not a minarquist either, because he didn't actually shrink the state, he just shirked many responsibilities that most western capitalist states regularly keep up with whilst mantaining a steady economical growth. So Milei is, for starters, a bad liar, aestethically, some kind of capitalism influencer who's not actully a capitalist but a politician who claims not to be a politician but a "mole" who supposedly defuses the state from within, but is not doing anything to defuse the corrupt part of the machinery's of the state, just replacing K cronies with ones of his own, the only parts of the state machinery that are being dissasembled are the ones that actually performed a real social, economical, logistical function, with arguable degrees of effectiveness and efficiency, but ultimately his government is ruining everything that held up the productive/commercial network of argentine economy whilst consigning control of the economy to Caputo and Sturzenneger, and the repressive tools to Patricia Bullrich whose hands were bloodied already back in the 70's. All in all, I think Milei's government ended up being the exact thing he portrayed "The State" to be whilst he was campaigning, an oppressive apparatus that conditions the individual's liberties by force of violence, and reaps the fruits of the private's labour to feed and dress an oligarchical system known as political caste. Milei but pretended to want to end the cycle, he just wanted to get to sit at the top of it.

[@Iv-Rep]

1) En 1914 Mussolini fue expulsado del partido socialista. 2) Mussolini fue puesto por la corona italiana para preservar el orden y sobretodo, mantener el control sobre la influencia socialista de la revolución bolchevique de 1917. Creándose un sistema corporativista o capitalismo de Estado, para preservar los intereses nacionales de la elite y no de los ciudadanos. 3) Mas libros menos tik tok... tonto del montón

[@veronicalecter]

@@amelglez5391 perhaps defending fascist dictatorships like he did makes you a kindred soul with fascism

[@UltimateRubberFool]

So, how´s things in Londonistan?

[@amelhem2000]

No this is not true, come here to argentina and ill show you around. This is nonsense from a socialist European. So good luck yanis there! Well be more than good with milei

[@ShinigamiInuyasha777]

Soy argentino y vos vivís en Narnia😂

[@amelhem2000]

@@ShinigamiInuyasha777 si papu, en 8 años vamos a estar encaminados a ser potencia! olvidate

[@ShinigamiInuyasha777]

@@amelhem2000 En el mundo de fantasía de los libertarados. Mira lo que paso cuando uno de ustedes salio a la calle

[@amelhem2000]

@@ShinigamiInuyasha777 no me molesta lo que digas porque vivis en una realidad alterada kirchnerista… en un par de años nos vas a agradecer, si todo sale acorde, agradecer que no vuelven mas… ademas, no entiendo si estás defendiendo la violencia o incitando? Igualmente de ustedes que puedo esperar, si muy democraticos no son. No entenideron que el 58% del pais se canso de la parafernalia zurda.

[@amelhem2000]

@@ShinigamiInuyasha777 se creen que son el pueblo, cortan calles y toman universidades… EL PUEBLO ESTA LABURANDO Y NO TIENE TIEMPO PARA ESTAS PELOTUDECES… EL PUEBLO VOTO PARA QUE SE VAYAN DEL GOBIERNO. Vos votaste narcoestado, votaste asesinos, votaste ladrones… y pensas que tenes superioridad moral para hablar??? Hay que ser delirante

[@gianfrancobarchiesi4358]

Faulty as Milei may be, this is a ridiculous characterization of him.

[@arstr3556]

This guy is so evil and hypocrite!

[@marcv2648]

I'm sorry, but if you think Milei is neo-liberal, you are just completely uninformed. Also all that Varoufakis did was to slur Milei with nonsense.

[@FerraraFacundo]

Some of Milei's policies are neoliberal policies. Some other are authoritarian. Some are just dumb. Some other are just outright oppressive.

[@FML515]

Te lavaron la cabeza pollo

[@Iv-Rep]

Los libros son para leerlos, no para limpiarse el culo

[@marcv2648]

Varoufakis' ideas are all based on negativity.

[@KonradYerba]

This guy doesnt know what he is talking about.

[@jagolago-bob]

Why do you think that?

[@stlouisix3]

Socialism is to blame for most of the issues with capitalism that socialists state.

[@lilhyena7534]

a few companies owning everything is socialism's fault?? 😂

[@B_Estes_Undegöetz]

Socialism for the rich and corporations you mean? Socialise the losses of private banks while keeping the profits private? That kind of socialism?

[@victorfergn]

@@B_Estes_Undegöetz not to mention most technological developments are given to the large companies to make products out of them. The computer, the internet browser, internet, the SIGSALY, etc Another two facts are... states are the largest clients of corporations (with that money they also develop technology) and they are able to use the huge labs the states have. The most important labs where professionals are trained are all created and maintained by the states, the corporations also use those labs.

[@federicomanueldavila9853]

So it's socialisms fault that capitalism sucks?. That's ridiculous.

[@patricksullivan3919]

No. Any questions?

[@AnatheRoManiac]

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarcho-capitalism hmm ..so it is a thing. Building on false premises?