Debunking the Pink Sauce Controversy | How To Cook That Ann Reardon

[@HowToCookThat]

Pink Sauce's Chef Pii slipped up BUT so did her Internet critics! Let's investigate🔎👒Download June's Journey for free here: woo.ga/noz48v

[@chewbacca7189]

excellent, balanced video from a proper food scientist. Seems the internet is full of smart-mouthed entertainers with strong (and uneducated) views isn't it. 🧐

[@lasskinn474]

maybe take a look at some other products labels and how the allowed leeway in the grams of things can lead to calories not adding up especially in per serving size if the serving is just few grams (the calories themselves have a bunch of leeway too). like how you can use sugar as a packing agent for a sweetener and be '0' carbs.

[@alexobery9813]

Ann, this was some of the best food and health journalism I've ever seen as a health researcher.

[@ivanpetrov5255]

@@lasskinn474 TicTac is 0 sugar, but it's also 90-ish٪ sugar, I think. The trick is, that they are under 2gr or something, and that allows them to claim they are sugar free.

[@PinkyPromise25]

I LOVE YOU WOMAN! I love how you always have very well detailed and valid explanations and you try your human best to throw your bias aside I think this video is amazing keep it up Ann and I hope you and your family have a wonderful day ❤✨

[@slateflash]

Ann just casually proving that she is a food scientist by replicating the pink sauce. Amazing

[@micro2743]

Well, she didn't actually "Replicate" the flavor as we don't know what "Spices" were used and she doesn't have the actual sauce to compare it to, but she debunked the claims against the ingredient list since dragon fruit tourns out to be an emulsifier. Great Job Ann!!! ;)

[@slateflash]

@@micro2743 I know, but i'm sure she came pretty close. If you know your flavours like Ann does then i think most sauce recipes are gonna be pretty standard, especially when most of the customers described it as ranch-like. That should have been more than enough for her to work with

[@bvoyelr]

I get your point, but what she did is not proof of being a food scientist. I'm not a food scientist and even I know how to make an emulsion. She just did some basic experiments that anybody claiming to test the ingredient list should have been able to do. Anne's awesome because she took the time to dispassionately examine all of the claims, and she's even more awesome because she's cultivated a reputation so stalwart that we expect nothing less from her.

[@technophobian2962]

Making an emulsion isn't even that hard. It just shows how little research creators like MatPat do before making videos. MatPat probably has the worst track record of talking confidently about things without any expertise or evidence.

[@Onebadbrownie]

Love the fact she proved those other videos wrong lol. Just go to show that jumping on a bandwagon doesn't mean much if you don't know what you are doing

[@secretlybees]

I cannot truly convey the excitement and comfort I felt hearing an actual food scientist say "I'm gonna' have to do some experiments." I love Ann

[@JosephM]

Sameeee!! I smiled so hard

[@goose3276]

Honey slime!!!

[@Lucy666Fernandez]

@Punkrock Noir cringe reply

[@Gersberms]

She's so methodical, I love it. Very inspiring too, I hope her methods teach people the value of critical thinking.

[@Joseph_Says77]

@Punkrock Noir cringe reply

[@embee7434]

Not the final outcome I expected when I clicked on the video and we started with the poor labeling. Great video, Ann. You're so fair and calm and supportive. You are a real hero.

[@Hypercane2025]

I know right?

[@ross-carlson]

Agreed, it's great - but not at all surprising - to see her treat the subject completely fairly and objectively. Again, not surprised at all and really glad to see her go this deep and call out other channels like Food Theorists and the others who really sensationalized this.

[@CeeGeeFursuits]

​@Punkrock Noir what

[@Beezer.D.B.]

Yes, while there was some initial problems, what some users claimed was unfair and damaging to her product. I personally wouldn’t buy anything like that, because I just can’t imagine using such a pink sauce on my food, lol. But that’s just personal preference. Ann ferreted out the possible truth, while some of the other “reviewers” could actually be sued for what they said and did. Bravo Ann!

[@pp1942]

@@ross-carlson and he call himself The Food Theorists when he can't even make a proper emulsion lmao

[@EvanG529]

I'm very impressed with that pink sauce replication. A shame that the color fades, but perhaps that's the reason people were receiving bottles in faded colors.

[@al-imranadore1182]

The fading colour is what actually hurt Chef Pii, sauce that's labeled Pink looking greyish will not sell well, most people wouldn’t even check expiration date when they see that the name doesn’t match the products appearance, especially in this case.

[@heavensent_baby8978]

​@@diosnumber1stfan nope. natural colors have a harder time retaining vibrancy in foods so they end up getting dull over time.

[@lostcontrol1981]

I wondered if beet powder would help the colour?

[@evo3481]

@@lostcontrol1981oxidation causes food to lose their color (beet powder won’t help) you need an antioxidant like ascorbic acid (vitamin C)

[@ussinussinongawd516]

Any natural color is gonna fade. She just needs to start using artificial components because noone really cared about the organic branding in the first place ​@@lostcontrol1981

[@kaya_nori]

And this, ladies and gentlemen, is how it's done. No clickbaiting, no false claims, checking everything that's possible and using professional expertise to formulate an unbiased opinion. Great video as always, thank you so much, Ann!

[@MyRegardsToTheDodo]

What Ann didn't mention is that Alley (the girl who went on the talkshow) actually found glitter in the pink sauce. The talkshow then later was totally set up to make Chef Pee look like a victim of internet trolls and haters, who didn't want a single, black mother to succeed with her business. That clip that Ann showed wasn't even the worst part of the talkshow, the host totally going at Alley was something else. Said host later deleted the show from his channel, but there are enough clips around. It was also quite clear that Chef Pee simply couldn't handle the business part, hadn't really looked into food safety standards and seemingly considered her first group of paying customers her test subjects. Since then she partnered with a condiment distribution company that now produces and ships her sauce (which probably is a good thing).

[@all4jesusall4him37]

We have to start somewhere. You get an idea from God in your heart and you try it. Then it explodes when all you were trying to do is make enough to make ends meet. Never expecting it to explode like it did. No one knows how to handle the success of you never had it before. Plus glitter is the devil. If it’s in your house you will find it even after a professional cleaning. My friend has band it from her house 😂😂😂 you want a quick funny video about it...look up “second hand glitter” by It’s A Southern thing! So accurate and hilarious at the same time!

[@Powered1Buttercup]

Well clickbait is what gives the most views unfortunately...

[@andrewpyrah]

Real content by a real person... not a content creator

[@HeleneLogan]

She really is a class act.

[@itsmadeofwaffles]

So far Ann has replicated the crumbly flake chocolate, the flavors in the coke syrup and the suspicious pink sauce, can't wait for her to uncover the secret ingredient for the kraby patty.

[@Ryanrulesok]

We all know it's made of fish

[@leeoso7295]

I would love to see her expose KFC secret recipe

[@roberthunter5059]

I'm pretty sure it's plankton.

[@wan3349]

@@Ryanrulesok isn’t it krab

[@erikapavedtheway]

@@Ryanrulesok the creators of SpongeBob has said that the patty is vegan so it can't be any type of seafood

[@TheGloriousLobsterEmperor]

Everyone out here debunking Pink Sauce, but only Anne is genius enough to somehow *confirm* the Pink Sauce.

[@theinvisiblewoman5709]

Yeah basically chef Pii has bad business and logistical acumen. Her product itself was always legit.

[@Ryanrulesok]

Well she confirmed the truths and denied the lies, its up to the customer to decide what's true or not

[@harringt100]

@@theinvisiblewoman5709 To the extent that needlessly expensive mayonaise can be legit, anyway.

[@theinvisiblewoman5709]

@@harringt100 lol true $20 is ridiculous

[@runeanonymous9760]

@@harringt100 it’s vegan and uses olive oil, which could make it cost ten or fifteen dollars on the normal market easily, and it’s pink, which I think actually may reduce its value normally when targeted directly to consumers? It feels like something that an ultra-trendy rests might use, vegan and instagrammable?

[@Dervis128]

21:57 Spoiler alert, it didn't. She blew through all the money she got by signing the deal, asked for more money, and badmouthed the company when they didn't give it to her. In a series of videos, she claimed they made her sign a terrible contract, defrauded her, aren't giving her the money she is entitled to, and now she can't pay her rent. The company fired back with receipts, saying they gave her more money than they promised and that she spent it all irresponsibly (clothes, travel, lavish parties, etc) and that they now have grounds to sue her for defamation.

[@danitho]

Did they sue her?

[@dakotaeast4126]

oh dear

[@imperialtower]

wowww

[@vsznry]

literally what rappers do. Never read the contract, be greedy for upfront money, think they own that money, blow it in clubs.

[@rainshadows17]

I really hope they sue her, she asked for so much extra money, spent it all on useless stuff then she had to audacity to say her kids have nothing to eat cause the company refused to give her more money

[@Aftershk]

I gotta say, I'm confused as to the statement from the guy who faked his own death... he apologized to Chef Pii and claimed his intent was "not to impact her business in any way," yet... what other intent could one have for FAKING YOUR DEATH from using someone's product? What other POSSIBLE outcome could that have other than impact someone's business in a negative way?

[@randomwerewolf1099]

Probably the only thing he was thinking about was the views and attention it would bring him. That it could possibly impact somebody else probably didn’t cross his mind.

[@dodisatrio3017]

Let just say, Some people don't think far ahead, and don't understand concepts of consequences. Even when they're old enough to understand that, especially the self centered type personality (aka karen)

[@sfsin3380]

I suspect that he saw the accusation that it was dangerous and pulled the faking his own death stunt thinking there would be real verifiable cases and he could just come back and claiming he was only trying to draw attention to a real dangerous product when there wasn't he found himself between a rock and a hard place so tried the apology to get out of it hole he dug.

[@MistressOfWhispers]

Honestly I hate "prank" videos like that & I hope she checks with a lawyer if she has cause to sue.

[@anonview]

I'm not a supporter of Chef Pi, but she has every right to sue that man if the law allows. What that guy did was all sorts of messed up.

[@doingitwelldotbiz]

When I worked for Starbucks, I would put a scoop of dragonfruit into my vanilla bean frapps just because it made them such a beautiful color. Looking back, it definitely stabilized the beverage. Without it, the frapp would melt and separate so quickly, but the dragonfruit kept it creamy for a long time after. It's so interesting learning that it was actually a pretty decent emulsifier. Thank you for the work that you do!

[@dixierae3442]

I was wondering is there any nutritional value in the dragon fruit powder or is it simply a coloring that works as an emollient. Would you happen to know by any chance? I'm thinking if it were more than just a coloring it would be very high in sugar. As whenever fruit is dehydrated you're left with a really high sugar content.

[@CStarFlare]

@@dixierae3442 A quick google shows it provides decent Vitamin C, Potassium and Magnesium, and a lot of fiber for 45 cal per tablespoon. You could do much worse.

[@dixierae3442]

@@CStarFlare OMG you bet I could do a whole lot worse. I'm not much of a eater so my nutrition really isn't what it should be. So anything that can go into a drink or a shake is good news to me. I can't believe I slipped up I consider myself the Google Queen I missed on that one. Haha I think I'm going to investigate some other f o r m s of nutrition coming in powder form. I never really got much into the Smoothie thing. But with that little bit of information it all of a sudden seems quite interesting. I'm a vegetarian so I have tried protein powders but they really wreak havoc on the belly. So I sort of put that type of shake thing on the back burner. Anyway thanks for the Christmas gift. Have a very happy one.

[@anakelly76512]

@@dixierae3442 Try beet powder. If you like wild cherry, you'll like the powder.

[@dixierae3442]

@@anakelly76512 honey I'm not a fan of wild cherry but I do like beets. I would be super into any type of vegetable powders. Can I get things like that. I eat these chips that are supposed to be healthy and it says they have vegetable powders on them and I'm wondering if that means because it's a powder rather than assault that I'm getting some nutrition. If I'm sounding a bit odd about eating it's because I have a condition that causes my jaw to lock so some chewing can be a problem.

[@ok_schlatter]

The dragon fruit powder fading after a few days might explain why it wasn’t always bright hot pink when people received it before she changed the recipe to keep it that bright hot pink color

[@FullMoonOctober]

I'm just wondering why she didn't just tell people that it was a natural change from when it was fresh to when it finished settling? People got rightfully worried when she kept pretending that it wasn't changing color at first. You'd think she'd just explain things from the start.

[@jonathanbarnett7897]

@@FullMoonOctober yeah the internet known for being understanding.

[@FullMoonOctober]

@@jonathanbarnett7897 And paranoid. You don't give them a mystery and then reluctantly give a half explanation only after repeated questioning and expect people to let it go. They'll think you're covering something up.

[@pietrayday9915]

The information that dragonfruit acts as a stable emulsifier along with the information that its colour fades in a few days really does seem to fit well with the ingredients list - assuming Chef Pii provided an accurate ingredients list, it sounds like these findings are consistent with that, and if that were all there were to it, I think it would mostly end there. HOWEVER.... We do know the label has some accuracy problems with the number of servings vs. the serving size, the nutritional information, spelling, and so on - Chef Pii (or someone in her employ) seems to have been LARPing as a nutritionist, and if these results are anything to go on, one can be forgiven for looking at the ingredients list with suspicion! And, given everything else we know about the Pink Sauce fiasco - the initial packaging/shipping disaster and professional concerns, for examples - I think we have a pretty good idea of why Chef Pii never seemed to take the time to explain that the colour shift was normal for dragonfruit: I'm going to assume that the product research and development, testing, QA, etc. was probably going to be as shoddy as the labeling, packaging, shipping, and so on, and Chef Pii was probably as surprised as anyone when the sauce didn't maintain its natural colouring. Handwaving that sort of thing as an "I'm not perfect" learning curve seems to be part of her SOP, and there seem to have bigger fish to fry in doing damage control and so on, so I could easily imagine that figuring out why the colour was inconsistent and explaining to her customers that it's normal was probably not high on her list of priorities. Those criticisms aside, along with the fact that there's no way I'm going to trust my life to a queasy pink mail-ordered food from a TikTokker, I am impressed that Chef Pii did at least seem to be responsive to complaints about the leaky and damaged packaging, seemed to deliver every order as faithfully as she could under the circumstances of her limited experience and expertise in this sort of thing, and provided refunds or replacements to customers when prompted - that's not the worst customer service I've ever heard of, and would probably put her ahead of the curve for Kickstarter reward fulfillment (for example, where Kickstarter reward fulfillment is notoriously spotty, especially toward the seedier side of the amateur contingent of that platform....)

[@gabriellaoktaviaerwin4606]

@@FullMoonOctober I think it has something to do with her not doing her research and even knowing about this at all HAHA

[@deboracopeland4795]

Watching this in fall 2023. It didn’t go well for pink sauce lady. Thank you for fair reporting on the subject. Pink lady may have shot herself-in foot when she said she wasn’t under the regulations of the FDA because she wasn’t making a medical product.

[@angelabby2379]

what happened?

[@deboracopeland4795]

@@angelabby2379 I’ve stopped watching, I don’t know what she’s doing now.

[@i_am_board_games]

@@deboracopeland4795 in short she signed with Dave Gourmet. They gave her $120k in advanced royalty sales in hopes they will recoup that money. She blew all the money. Claims that DG has not paid her and forced her to sign a contract that was unfair. She also demanded that DG pay something like 80k for a Barbie themed birthday party for her. She went to IG and GoFundMe pleading for people to send her money.

[@UnbirthdayHatter]

@@angelabby2379 She ended up lying about Dave's Gormet paying her and ruining her deal because she was spending their advertizing money on a birthday party for herself and other sketch stuff.

[@johndavis29209]

Yeah she blew through like $160k in 10 months and then tried getting the Internet to attack the company. The company provided all proof showing how much of scam she was and then ended everything with "she so broke it's not enough worth suing her"

[@heychris24]

I've followed a bit of this controversy the past few months, but this is probably the most professional, unbiased review/debunking of the whole situation. No exaggerations, no gimmicks, no clickbait. This is why Ann is Internet Mom

[@abigailyalew1304]

Yep thats the word. Internet MOM 👏

[@tcjgaming9813]

@@abigailyalew1304 totally agree

[@tcjgaming9813]

I honestly think we all hv messed up with the whole "pink sauce can cause botulism" claim, thought it was true but it may be a false claim. idk whether it is false, but this will be a lesson to not be a sheep and follow any news since in this age we can just spread false information very easily.

[@cubanalien]

Only she could figure this mess out 😂

[@DdumbaStyle]

she is a MOTHER.

[@QuarterMoonRachel]

The emulsifier test was fascinating. Didn't realise something like dragon fruit would work like that.

[@Damindeater]

Also Garlic works as an emulsifier. If you look at traditional Aioli, it doesn't contain egg or mustard.

[@Nukedk]

My biggest problem was that she first denied that FDA was any concern, cause she didn't make drugs. and then afterwards gets a "Surprise" visit from an FDA agent, who tells her to fill out a form and everything would be okay(FDA most certainly doesn't make Door-to-Door visits). And for the "surprise" visit, she still has enough time to record it all and add a glitter filter.

[@ExarchGaming]

even worse, the person wasn't from the FDA, it was like the florida agricultural department, the patch on their shirt looks just like it. My issue with her, is the blatent lying, and then her attacking that girl for just wanting it tested. The problem is Ann here is making a lot of guesses, educated guesses, but just guesses, but is passing them off as fact and using those guesses to absolve Chef Pii of guilt.

[@boysteacher3818]

@@ExarchGaming I knew that there is something off about ann in this video

[@Saurawr]

@@ExarchGaming Ann's guesses beat "i bet it has botulism in it because" or "clearly she used bottles of mayonnaise she found" which are laughable

[@ExarchGaming]

@@Saurawr i mean that's fair, but it doesn't address the exploded and spoiled bottles that many many people reported, it also relies on her anecdotes. "I wasn't able to find x about y" Okay, that's not emperical at all though. Pii's lying, along with the spoiled bottles, and attacking that girl just for politely asking for answers and wanting to seek out her own. Ann is giving chef pii a pass on all of that.....because why now? She hasn't appropiately apologized to anyone.

[@darklanternstudios7691]

@@Saurawr I'm pretty sure most of the botulism claims were due to the damaged shipments Pii was sending out. Even food that should be safe from Botulism can still be contaminated if the packaging gets damaged. You can tell if the packaging is swollen or bloated looking. The mayo bottle thing was dumb, but Botulism is a valid concern to have.

[@garrettr3644]

The most level-headed KZbinr around. I appreciate that you never allow yourself to get dragged into all the hype.

[@richardharris9708]

So refreshing to see someone neutrally consider all the arguments rather than being blindly for or against. My new favourite KZbinr.

[@Pinkstarclan]

I think the question shouldn't be "is she a chef?" but "does she have a food handlers card?" "is she abiding by cottage food laws?" "is she abiding by commercial food manufacturing laws?" "has she consulted any qualified nutritionists in the creation of her label?" "has a third party verified her ingredients list?" bc if all it takes to be a chef is having a friend who wants you to cook for them, "chef" is not the qualifier we should be using to see if someone's mysterious homemade sauce of unknown origin can be mailed over days in the summer heat.

[@57thorns]

I suspect I am at least as qualified as a chef that she is, as I have cooked (on occasion) a three course festive meal for between 8 and 20 people. Being a good chef, i delegated most of the work (once the planning was done). btw: This was private parties in a student dorm, not a paid position.

[@scrdart]

Sauces like this DO NOT fall under cottage food license protection. She most likely didn't have one, as you have to pay to apply, you need to provide official documentation about your kitchen, the foods you'll be making, and they have to send an inspector out before approval. Only (and I quote) "baked goods, candies, jams, jellies, preserves, fruit butters, dry spice blends, or dry tea blends" fall under a food cottage permit. Her sauce wouldn't fall under any of those classifications.

[@Zeroshiki]

A food handler's card isn't that hard to get, so I wouldn't even trust that. The test I took for mine asked me like 7 questions and they were mostly just common sense questions, I didn't have to learn anything substantial for the test.

[@Adventist1997]

​@@scrdart She said in one of her videos that she went through all the legal routes, with help... To make sure it's better and safe.

[@SapavemLasae]

Kinda reminds me of Sorted Food. Even though the 'normals' have been cooking for several years, they still say they are normals because they aren't classically trained chefs.

[@gigitastic90]

From what I remember the reason people were concerned about The Pink Sauce ( I Saw Swell Entertainment's video on it) was how the Pink Sauce was being shipped. It was not refrigerated and was being shipped out in a heat wave and looked as if it was being stored in a garage. Many of the early bottles that people got were gassy which was a sign that a possible bacterial reaction . A few had exploded and were clearly rotten. That seemed to be the main reason people were urged not to buy it or eat it that I heard. I also found it alarming that someone was selling a food product and didn't understand that by selling food they might have to answer to the FDA ( FOOD and Drug administration).

[@thunderboots1056]

Same, and for some reason I saw bits on the raw honey causing problems.

[@Mldy96]

Yeah, I kinda wish she also touched on this issue - her video was otherwise stellar and very informative!

[@nataliebrantley7593]

This needs to be higher up. I wish she had gone over these points

[@iixrosetta]

This. While her video was very informative I was waiting for her to address these points and its a bit disappointing she never did and I would’ve loved to see her talk about that in her video.

[@AleksandrWins]

@@sasori2425 Well, the sauce bottles breaking were a poor packaging issue which was changed later. Even actual mayo is shipped in dry storage...

[@TheCatWitch63]

This is the most professional, respectful and objective video I’ve seen about the Pink Sauce and its creator. Thank you for being you!!!!

[@Tomago9387]

Really did her research for this one

[@KayKay-sz6yz]

Right, Anne did a great job as always. She was fair and objective and gave us the truth. As to the pink sauce lady, She doesn’t know basic food safety or what the FDA is, I’m not granting her the title of chef imo. She handle everything abysmally and I think that is what made this whole situation so much worse for her. She ruined her image by responding to the valid claims in a rude condescending manner. But that doesn’t mean she deserves all the hate and death threats, so while I don’t like her or support her brand based on her poor skills and bad attitude I appreciate Anne setting the record straight in a professional and fair manner. Hopefully Pii will learn and grow from all this.

[@MimiUsagichan]

She deserves no respect

[@aff77141]

@@KayKay-sz6yz there was a lawyer who did a video about the legal side of this as well, equally informative

[@danitho]

@@aff77141 legal eagle?

[@turtlepowersf]

Very fair breakdown of the whole situation. Unfortunately for Chef Pii, it's all gone drastically downhill since signing with Dave's Gourmet, and seemingly all by her own doing. One thing i noticed in her earlier interviews is, she seemed much more lucid. These days, she speaks much slower and just doesnt seem all there. Shes sabotaging her own success and going off the deep end by unfairly bashing DG.

[@al-imranadore1182]

Even after DG helping pink sauce get properly on store shelves it didn't sell well because it wasn't any better than regular ranch sauce and more expensive, despite that they gave her 120K royalty which she wasted on nonsensical spending, now she's living on 20$ per day from her disabled mother and begging for money on the internet.

[@violetcarson5532]

Yep she ruined herself. The scriptures tells us that "PRIDE COMES BEFORE THE FALL." She has no one to blame but herself.

[@violetcarson5532]

​@@al-imranadore1182yep she to proud to go get a job and work. Foolish woman 🤦🏾.

[@afraaomar4682]

I don't blame her after all the hate she received

[@turtlepowersf]

@afraaomar4682 she was mailing out bottles of botulism and then giving major attitude to anyone who fairly called that out. She came off terrible in that ridiculous talk show appearance. She also had zero understanding of FDA guidelines, either. Like i said, all by her own doing.

[@feuilletoniste]

And this is the difference between a scientist and a pundit: the pundit might look at the ingredients, not recognise any emulsifiers, and jump to conclusions, but the scientist actually runs experiments to see if the process could work! Thanks for another great video, Ann - your honest but compassionate takes on even the most shouty topics make the internet (and the world) a better place. 💕

[@a.w.4708]

Yeah, the recipe also uses garlic, which is emulsifier. I sometimes achieved emulsion with oil, garlic, honey and lemon juice.

[@rebel4466]

But the sauces had different consistency and color. Therefore they likely had different ingredients. At the very least different ratios, so the label is pointless

[@Not_Always]

@@rebel4466 exactly

[@ItsJustMe0585]

I'd still never trust to purchase or consume this, after the blundered labels, shipping and lack of FDA certification, but at least Anne exposed that it was plausible to make with the ingredients listed and explained why it didn't kill people, but it still seems like just luck in Chef Ps behalf. But I don't think she had malace in mind

[@toomuchpassion2361]

@@rebel4466 Anne posted in the video, the sauce started pink and then got lighter in color over a few days. It ended up more of an apricot color like we saw in the resulting bottles.

[@mevlin5954]

Favorite part was when Anne admits she doesn't know if it'll work. But rather than concluding that it doesn't work, goes and recreates the sauce instead.

[@Not_Always]

she cant recreate something she has no recipe for and is guessing as to the taste

[@asianboywonder2312]

@@Not_Always she did prove it theoretically works though, even if it isnt likely 1 to 1 recreated

[@angelsinthewindow]

Eh, I give props to MatPat for at least trying, but he isn't a cook so wouldn't know the special thing that would work..... (And the Tic Toc shows her just dumping stuff in without a care so...)

[@stephenhopper5099]

@@Not_Always the taste doesn't matter, what she was testing was will dragonflies stabilise an emulsion. Which it did, showing that pink sauce, regardless of taste, is possible with the listed ingredients.

[@Not_Always]

@@asianboywonder2312 She proved that she can make pink ranch dressing?

[@Pixels_and_Points]

This was the first time I had heard of Pink Sauce. The food labeling part of Chef P bothers me the most from her, but those hospitalizations and death "stories" sound like great lawsuits waiting to happen. Having a social media platform doesn't give anyone the right to spread misinformation and lies. As always, I am so thankful for Ann for her brain and her heart!

[@TamarLitvot]

“Having a social media platform doesn’t give anyone the right to spread misinformation and lies.” I agree that *should* be true but Elon Musk has shown that it isn’t. He has officially opened Twitter to misinformation and lies.

[@apriliahussna4561]

I really can't believe how they don't even look sorry for spreading lies about the product. The nerve they have for saying "don't intend to harm your business" when the lies obviously did it

[@adde9506]

I doubt she's too cracked up about it. All the free publicity got her a deal with someone who will do all that math and safety stuff for her. Personally peeved? Sure, but wasting time and money on lawsuits against people who probably don't have assets enough to make it worth it? Nah.

[@emma70707]

@@apriliahussna4561 , I think the weird thing is they probably didn't, they just wanted the views on TikTok and thought it was funny; they just have no understanding of defamation law. I would have been sorely tempted to bring him to court, if I were her, even with the public apology, similar to how Taylor Swift sued her old manager for $1 and legal fees. It seems like an open and shut defamation case--the guy faked his death to draw controversy to a product--and it would be a clear opportunity to rescue the perception of safety of her product in view of the press.

[@timetoruncowards]

@@apriliahussna4561 RIGHT? Omg I couldn't keep my sh*t together when the guy who faked his own death said: "I'm sorry if it hurt your business, that was totally not my intention" R U FOR REAL???????

[@petiteange08]

I love how you actually tried to replicate the emulsifier process because you've never used dragon fruits before, instead of just claiming that the sauce wouldn't work. The sauce does look sus to me, mainly due to the labelling issue, but I think it's still important to remain objective when reviewing a product.

[@al-imranadore1182]

Pink sauce becomes grey within it's expiry date.

[@XxRavenwishxX]

I dont think the Chef Pii is smart enough to figure the emulsifying thing out herself. She didn't know what the FDA was.

[@petiteange08]

@@XxRavenwishxX Lol, maybe not. But I still appreciate Ann's scientific approach, instead of just reacting for the sake of reacting or refusing to try anything new. Of course, we still do not know what is Chef Pii's actual recipe, but I did learn something new about emulsifier from this video.

[@XxRavenwishxX]

@@petiteange08 she really is great!

[@hml25]

​@@XxRavenwishxXyou don't really need to be smart can just be an accident

[@panpanpandy]

okay so i was hesitant to watch this because the pink sauce debacle has been grossing me out for months, but mrs reardon you did a wonderful job of covering it without sensationalism and with compassion and a scientific eye. chef pii did make (several) mistakes, but i'm actually kind of comforted to know that it isn't the toxic sludge that basically every other youtuber who covered this is claiming.

[@theinvisiblewoman5709]

Sad part is her mistakes were all from a lack of business knowledge. The lies were all based on her product. Though chef Pii didn’t handle her rude and deceitful customer but it was well deserved regardless (and in my opinion) after that woman slandered her and I am surprised Ann didn’t acknowledge that after explaining how this woman slandered Piis product. The expectation for everyone on social media to be business savvy or mildly educated is a bit presumptuous. Like Ann said once the internet makes it mind up there is no truth to unbind the mess.

[@kumaahito3927]

Indeed, and this is why random youtubers are great for entertainment but not for trustworthy information gathering in general. (Exceptions naturally apply, there are some who have actual professional knowledge or experience like Ann, but most youtubers aren't really qualified.)

[@luketfer]

@@kumaahito3927 It does depend on the field. For example history, especially armoured warfare, you've got great youtube channels like The Tank Museum and The chieftain, for Naval warfare you have Drachinfels, Medieval arms and armor you have Todd's Workshop (which I HIGHLY recommend watching his Arrows vs Armor 1 and 2 videos). I find it's usually history channels who have a *very* specific niche that they cover are worth watching. By contrast you had Mattpat do a 'Viking vs Samurai vs Knight' history video which got torn to shreds by basically anyone with any sort of historical knowledge by the sheer amount of faults it had in it. At first he just thought it was people being butthurt over the Knight losing but when more and more false claims got shown he then switched to "oh it had to be rushed because we were at a deadline...we didn't have time to do proper research". Here's the thing, with Game Theories, nobody can really 'fact check' you because they're gut feelings but when it comes to 'Historical theories' he can actively get checked because there is a wealth of knowledge out there and there ARE people who make a particular era of history their specialty. Since that point Mattpat has never done any video based on actual history again because he couldn't just bullshit his way out of it with the "It's just a Theory!" catchphrase.

[@TheBre1491]

I love watching 74 gear just for this reason. Lots of influencers spit out false information on airplanes just to get views. 74 gear is an actual pilot who debunks these with a neutral stance, similar to Ann but with air planes not food.

[@jacaredosvudu1638]

Hummmm... you still sure?

[@ashgood7368]

The label being wrong can actually be dangerous. Especially for me whos diabetic, you need to know how many carbs are in something and doing too much insulin or too little can have drastic effects

[@114bleachfan]

And I would suggest not buying from small businesses and their products as many cannot afford the exact measurements

[@crypticlish6717]

@@114bleachfan if they can't afford exact precise measurements they should find a different small business idea that doesn't risk people's health Coming from someone who knows other small businesses owners including those working with foods. Its been fixed now since she's working with a company that can handle it, but she should've been responsible about it from the start. I am glad that she now is partnered and can conduct her business with correct labeling.

[@lunabelletheinsane]

@@114bleachfan So diabetics should avoid small businesses instead of holding them accountable for putting dangerous misinformation on their products. That's what your comment is saying.

[@timetravelingpenguin]

@@lunabelletheinsane I don't think that's what they're saying, I think they're just trying to give advice Yes businesses, big and small, should be held accountable for dangerous products, absolutely But sadly small businesses, especially really small 1 person ones, aren't as regulated and mistakes are more easily made, so the advice if you have health concerns is to avoid small businesses unless you're absolutely sure they're okay or at the very least consume at your own risk Yes, it sucks, no, it shouldn't be this way, but that's the reality and we all have to navigate it Doesn't mean they shouldn't be held accountable, just means you have to be careful

[@Febeleh]

Diabetics are artifically kept alive by modern medicine- natural selection will come for them

[@s3n0raw3s0meness]

I just love how Ann does her own research and comes up with her own conclusions

[@Jaerb4]

That plus she's actually trained and credentialed to do her own research. 99% of the people who say, "Do your own research" are not.

[@TheBestCat1290]

she lays out all the facts and lets you make your own conclusions.

[@ExarchGaming]

she's theorizing, she doesn't have the sauce, so she's guessing, without having the product in hand, ESPECIALLY those early orders when this all went down. Anne is lovely, but this isn't some objective test, she's coming up with plausibilities not confirmations.

[@ShaiJadieIDV]

Exactly, This is just my thoughts but, all Ann did was show that you can make a sauce with the ingredients on the bottle. She never tasted the og pink sauce like a lot of ppl. Now all Ann has to do is taste the og sauce and compare it to hers. If it tastes similar then we'll know for sure that the pink sauce is used only with the ingredients on the bottle. Or if someone else would like to make Ann version and compare to teh og sauce then that will be perfect. So basically Ann could have created a whole new recipe and Pii can easily take it and pretend she was making that all b4 since Ann's vid I'd out. So until someone makes a taste comparison with Ann's sauce and the og pink sauce, I'm still gonna think that something is still wrong with teh sauce. And considering Pii didn't know what FDA was, would she really know that dragon fruit Could be and emulsifier?

[@Done478]

This channel is my comfort food for times when I realize the dimensions of the monster I unleashed by angrily dismissing people by telling them to do their own research. I have the statistics, analysis, research design, methodology and research-informed strategy implementation classes under my belt to know how ridiculous and insulting that was to say, but I said it anyway. See what I made? Yeah... I hate that about me too.😖

[@somnia6736]

Been following Ann since I was a kid when she did the Minecraft chocolate cake, now she’s a food scientist that provides informations in a calm and patient way and that recreates popular ailments in an healthy way This woman is simply amazing

[@CaptainSwanEternity]

It’s so refreshing and rare to see such an amazing, educated, unbiased, honest person on the internet these days who’s not chasing after views. Ann, I’ve followed you for years and you never disappoint ❤️✨

[@Sp3ctralI]

Truer than true, sadly

[@worldhello1234]

Enough glazing. You don't need to be unbiased to make good observations.

[@audeforcione-lambert4293]

Finding out that dragon fruit is an emulsifier is really helpful! I have a friend who is allergic to eggs and I always struggle to find replacements when I cook for partys

[@CeeGeeFursuits]

Added bonus! Everything will be pink now

[@markdotinc8371]

@@CeeGeeFursuits a lot of other fruits are high in pectin!

[@McJusti]

If it's something sweet, a lot of vegan receipes use bananas. You can also try soy lecitin, which was also mentioned in the video and it maybe be better (tasteless probably, colorless, powdered so you can store it for longer).

[@gifttanz]

It was also super interesting because I am allergic to Soya and avoid is as an emulsifier now im thinking about what I can do that was previously only available via eggs.

[@kaelang12]

@@CeeGeeFursuits isn't dragon fruit flesh white tho

[@suzannestrickland1586]

I appreciate that you give as unbiased reviews as possible. Just the facts!

[@kaixart2222]

wait how did u wrote this comment 16h ago? the video was posted only minutes ago

[@potARTo]

@@kaixart2222 patrons

[@kmprowler]

@@potARTo I was thinking time travel, thanks for bursting that bubble hahaha

[@suzannestrickland1586]

@@kaixart2222 Well, I do drive a T.A.R.D.I.S. so time travel is possible. But, I am a Patreon supporter. So I get early access

[@averycolthan6439]

Was gonna type the same! Your videos are great!

[@jr3414]

Happy with this review. I work for a leading consumer health company on formulations in regards to labeling. The pink sauce label made me cry. I guarantee she never made her FDA submission prior to marketing, which would have identified the GROSS mislabeling which for anyone else would have triggered a major recall. Great and knowledgeably experiments too. Terrible product, but lots of misinformation as well. It is on Walmart now with a corrected label. Lots of stuff left out from the first one... and it has artificial colorants with TiO2 and artificial preservatives.

[@JutlandAngel]

Let's not forget on the talkshow with Alli, not only did she say that Alli wasn't special. She and the host made Alli out to be the bad guy and had her apologize for having legitimate worries and giving a negative review of a product. They literally said something akin to "If you have problem with pink sauce, you should say it Pii, not make a public reeview, cause that's bullying."

[@RaspBerryPies]

IKR like I get everyone saying Ann is being nice and unbiased (that’s true but she did forget to include the unsafe packaging conditions which is very import) are going to be in for a big surprise when they see the interview of Pii just attacking someone who was being just as nice as Ann! She doesn’t deserve this nice review tbh

[@MayorMcheese12]

Yeah that was so stupid. Probably just cause she's black too. Customer is always right. You don't go complaining to your customers telling them that they're a load of bs and telling them they're wrong. She's unprofessional and her "business" deserves to sink to the bottom of the ocean

[@wajmgirl]

That talk show is shittier than an exploded bottle of pink sauce

[@RaspBerryPies]

@@MayorMcheese12 Well I agree she is not great person or at least how she handled it was not great but I don’t see how her being black has to do with anything? Idk I swear ppl make everything about race even when it isn’t mentioned at all.

[@MayorMcheese12]

@@RaspBerryPies that's just how things are nowadays

[@GracieUnderFireFire]

As someone who followed this drama closely, I was SO EXCITED to see you debunk this Ann!! I found myself saying out loud “Ah it’s the PECTIN that’s the emulsifier!” This is why you’re one of my favorite creators on the internet ❤

[@chaosdestructionlove]

Is dragon fruit a high pectin fruit? I know fruits like raspberries are which is why you often only need the fruit + iirc near its weight in sugar to make a stable jam? Would be interesting to see if you can do similar with dragon fruit. Edit: just watched someone do exactly that. Though they added a squeeze of lemon to help the process and the taste too.

[@felixmoore6781]

Pectins don't have any highly lipophilic parts as far as I know (correct me if I'm wrong). So it'd be more accurate to say they're stabilisers rather than emulsifiers.

[@GracieUnderFireFire]

@@felixmoore6781 Ah thank you! I think I meant stabilizer :)

[@iancovill8854]

This is actually the first time I've heard of this contraversy, and I'm so glad it's coming from a person as honest and level-headed as you. Sensationalism is getting bad again, if it ever stopped. It's nice to know there are people willing to continue to entertain without resorting to fearmongering and emotional rumours.

[@catelynh1020]

I'd seen things for it for a while. I admit that i'd hopped on the bandwagon of being against her since i started by seeing the news from the time of her reacting poorly. For instance, i saw her label that was wrong, heard that she'd both said the color hadn't changed and that she'd changed the color, heard her say "what do you mean fda approved, it's not a medical product", and some other iffy things on her part. And because i'd seen multiple lies or negligence on her part, it was easy to think that she had done other lies or negligence. I still don't trust her, even more so following the video she filmed of herself having a supposed fda officer show up at her home (which sounds unlike anything i know the fda to do), and the questions felt off and she was allowed to film it (i don't know the privacy laws of her state and whether you need 2 party consent or just 1), and she even had a sparkle filter on her (tbf, i don't know if it was a video she'd already started and was interrupted by the doorbell). BUT! Having someone like ann who has more knowledge on the food portion of the topic and level headedness actually go through explaining her thought process on the statements going around is a much better starting point.

[@juannot1353]

@@catelynh1020 I think "being against her" is perfectly fine! I think her sketchy moves are perfectly worth deeming too much for people specially considering she's selling a product made to be consumed where your implicit trust towards the manufacturer is important. The important part is that yeah, the structures of social media don't insentivize people to make a video saying "She lied about this but this other thing is a really big assumption we don't have solid evidence for". That's incredibly boring and not share-worthy. On the other hand people who jump to conclusions get more clickable videos out quicker and those get transmitted further out until noone knows what the source is but the information has been repeated so many times you have to just assume it's true because why would people be faking their death over it if they stand to gain nothing from it?

[@catelynh1020]

@@juannot1353 Well, it's more that my distrust and distaste resulting from the early news i saw about it made me less likely to find favorable things about her. I'd made my mind up that she was bad, so her product must also be bad, full stop. If that makes sense. Like, if i'd seen this video first, i would have been more amicable to the product while still not wanting to touch it with a 10ft pole and still think maybe she wasn't a very good businesswoman but wasn't *that* bad. And after i saw the other ones i'd think she was bad, but i would have had a better starting point. Although you're totally correct in that social media twists the story from boring truth to exciting lies with the internet wide game of telephone for clicks.

[@westzed23]

Since she has been signed with a large food company, all tests will have to be done for safety of consumers.

[@Saknika]

I also have never heard of Pink Sauce or this controversy until Ann went over it. Thankfully, I also have no intentions to eat this, both because garlic makes me ill and it brings back too many memories of the colored ketchup (that was so, so nasty). LOL

[@BufoToxin-i3p]

Speaking of professionalism, get a load of Mrs. Reardon. Instead of jumping on the hate train, she takes an objective approach and doesn't insult or berate Chef Pii. You're the class act we need more of in the world.

[@fakkan6516]

@@BufoToxin-i3p Except that she was completely wrong and chef Pii has proven herself to be a complete moron.

[@jasoncporter]

In a world where I feel like I’m constantly battling misinformation, bias, hate, and sensationalism in all my media consumption, your videos are a breath of fresh air because you’re always delivering pure unfiltered truth with the genuine intent of helping people. Love you Ann!

[@nocause5395]

Here's the problem Ann completely forgot the part of Chef Pii's label that says it contained milk and what she made looked like the original videos but not what was shipped out. Also, her upgraded product contains coconut cream so it's not off base to think that the coconut cream was a replacement for something dairy.

[@Thatprrrr]

I mean, what's your main hurdle in tryna find unbiased commentary KZbinrs? Maybe I can give some recommendations

[@anzaia2164]

You mentioned this, but I wish you addressed it more directly: The pink sauce probably always looks different because the pink colour fades with time. So the different coloured bottles could totally be the same recipe, just a difference in age.

[@Oshroth]

At 13:45 there is a pop-up that mentions the color change over time

[@zucchinigreen]

Kinda like how apple cider vinegar changes color sitting on store shelves over time.

[@milkyoni]

It's in the video Anzaia....

[@TheDolphace]

@@milkyoni not everyone watches the screen, people do other stuff while videos play. I didn't see it, was probably making a coffee. Someone timestamped where it was, that's enough.

[@danilooliveira6580]

what, funny enough, probably means that the new factory made product will be full of stabilizers and conservants to reduce oxidation and degradation of the chemicals that give it its color, so no more "all natural organic sauce".

[@lillyj9479]

I'm very excited to learn that pitaya/dragon fruit can be used as an emulsifier. that was my favorite part of this video. I love learning new things about food with you!

[@tjohnson9192]

Same!!! I was flabbergasted!!

[@eddie-roo]

*pitahaya Pitayas are round and spiky with green skin rather than scaley, egg shaped with bright pink skin

[@lillyj9479]

@@eddie-roo it's spelled "pitaya" on the ingredient list so that's why I spelled it that way. I didn't know there was a difference between pitaya and pitahaya! I thought they were just different words for the same thing.

[@mariapaulagl]

Yes! And we have white pitaya, só no need for the pink color

[@mariapaulagl]

@@eddie-roo in Brazil they are ALL called pitaya. Maybe is a diferent language kind of thing

[@BiologyIsHot]

There are so few people who succeed with such integrity as Ann. I'm sure she isn't perfect but she is overall so devoted to just doing/ talking about/making interesting things and working her butt off to do it.

[@RDCFemmes]

But she has a horrible attitude and she hasn't gone far

[@wacky7092]

KZbinrs: The ingredients are fake!!! Ann: *hold my dragonfruit powder*

[@cilski]

😂😂😂😂

[@ashanein]

Gold

[@HAVgiraffe]

the guy who faked his death due to Pink Suace and then had the audacity to say he didn't mean to have an effect on her sales really just shocked me. like what did you think the outcome of death by pink sauce would do to sales? unbelievable. i hope it goes well for the "chef" and that some better customer service is done, but I don't think I will be getting any pink sauce anyways even with this new information that Ann has so diligently presented.

[@ericp7522]

Yeah seems like she could sue that guy for libel or something. Completely ridiculous

[@Jeremy-wp4yh]

@@ericp7522 if you're putting anything on social media or tik tok crazy things like this tends to happen. But either way, I don't think she should be selling foodstuff if she doesn't understand food saftey

[@tyetye5026]

I really hope things go well for her too!!! She is human.

[@Missconduct044]

I originally felt bad for the pink sauce lady, that is until she went on a talk show and proceeded to attack some girl who did an honest (not hateful) review of the sauce. It was the most bizarre thing I’ve ever seen.

[@lordfreerealestate8302]

@@tyetye5026 Update: she sued and slandered the company (Dave's Gourmet)that tried to help her rebuild because they wouldn't pay for her clothes and hair after she squandered the money she got on herself she couldn't afford to feed her children.

[@xondraluna9965]

I think her biggest mistake was rushing it. I think more people wanted to buy it than she anticipated and she didn't take her time with labels or recipe. I totally get why she rushed, loads of people want their things *now* and would've likely lost interest if they had to wait like 6 months for her to get it all sorted. It could've gone better with time. I hope she's successful honestly 💛

[@theinvisiblewoman5709]

Her biggest mistake was not creating and developing a branding and business plan before putting out a product. Anything can be rushed if you have a solid plan but it is apparent she didn’t have that. You would think the first thing thoroughly detailed would be the nutrition label after creating a product. That alone wasn’t an issue with rushing but rather organization and documentation.

[@pa-pa-plasma]

I actually see this all the time, but not in foodーit's extremely prevalent in the art & writing communities, especially webcomics I find. I've even done it. People make something, mention it once kind of offhand, & then get overwhelmed by the feeling of "MUST POST! NEED VALIDATION!" when someone shows interest & end up crashing & burning when they dive in head first. I've seen it so many times, I actually have a script as to how to apologize for doing this as someone with ADHD xD that was Chef Pi's mistake. She just kept doubling down instead of taking a step back, looking at the situation, & saying "sorry guys, this is going on hiatus until I have things sorted! everyone who's order was messed up, email me & you'll get a refund" before settling down to make an actual plan like a mature adult. Her Pink Sauce would've actually gone places if she hadn't've been such a huge bitch to her customers. She didn't dig her own grave by label fuck upsーthat was done when she doubled down on her dishonesty & started attacking people for reasonable concerns.

[@patheticmortal373]

@@theinvisiblewoman5709 and then her her attacking people who had genuine concerns over the safety of the product, or anyone who didn't like it🤦‍♂️🤮

[@theinvisiblewoman5709]

@@patheticmortal373 yeah like I said she handled the business part the professionalism poorly. She also fixed her mistakes and Ann Reardon just confirmed nearly any of the safety concerns were valid.

[@patheticmortal373]

@@theinvisiblewoman5709 "fixed her mistakes". She released an untested perishable product to market. Even with appropriate packaging that wasn't acceptable. You don't see a big wig at Heinz mixing up a batch of sauce in their kitchen, packaging it in a bottle without full analysis and sampling, to then send it off to market. Their sauces are analysed, sampled, batch tested, tested for degradation. "Chef" Pii did non of that. That's not "handled poorly", that's illegal.

[@venom_candy]

AugustTheDuck reviewed her "spice mix" versions of both the pink and blue sauce. He said that the packaging wasn't good, the contents were practically solid, and that they smelled of mildew. After that he made a couple updates that he didn't feel well after, though not outright sick

[@bighoodie4315]

Everything else aside, hearing the pink sauce lady say "of course my product isn't FDA approved, I'm not making medical products!" Made my year. That was so funny. The FOOD & drug association. FOOD.

[@MichaelOnines]

But the FDA doesn't approve food products, it approves food ingredients and additives. Heinz Ketchup isn't "FDA approved", nor does it need to be. High fructose corn syrup, red dye #5 (or whatever) are on a list of ingredients that may be used in foods.

[@bighoodie4315]

@@MichaelOnines I know, I just thought it was funny the way she made it sound like the FDA only handles medical products. Like you'd hope someone claiming to be a chef and selling food products would know that!

[@lilpsyche6971]

@@MichaelOnines The history of Ketchup is also covered in controversy. Just history repeating itself. I, for one, will never eat the sauce bc of how the creator handled the drama. Safe or Toxic, I don't like the behavior of the person behind it.

[@MichaelOnines]

@@lilpsyche6971 stay away from those deadly nightshades and I'm sure your humours will continue to be balanced. Maybe you should head over to Tasting History or Townsend's channel and make their authentic mushroom ketchup.

[@tsm688]

@@lilpsyche6971 It's funny because the pink sauce might be one of the very few kinds of ranch that WOULDN'T kill me. No egg :D

[@joeqiao1691]

That whole emulsifier situation was so interesting. At first I thought it could be mustard since it's a decent emulsifier seen in a lot of sauce recipes but man I did not expect dragonfruit to be that good itself!

[@diannawilliams6494]

As of November, she has paired with Dave's Gourmet to sell her sauce. In a product review by Motherboard, it's orange, not pink anymore, it's $9.99, not $20 anymore, and they list the new ingredients as follows...Ingredients: Dragon Fruit Puree, Canola Oil, Coconut Cream, Water, Sugar, Distilled White Vinegar, Garlic, Maltodextrin, Ranch Flavor (Maltodextrin, Onion Powder, Natural Flavors, Modified Food Starch), Salt, Spices, Contains 0.5 percent or less of: Xanthan Gum, Colored With Titanium Dioxide, Preserved with Sodium Benzoate, Potassium Sorbate, Citric Acid, and Calcium Disodium EDTA..

[@tsm688]

Sounds like she compromised to make a product that doesn't deteriorate. Probably a good idea, hope she doesn't get blasted for it.

[@SailorDonut]

I was just reading through the recipe on Ann's website and she said that it fades over the course of a few days into more of an apricot color, which looks like it might be closer to what Dave's is selling. (On my phone, it looks like it's a slightly pinker version of thousand island dressing, so close to an apricot color.) Maybe that's the issue? It seems to me if you want the hot pink ranch you'd be better off just using Ann's recipe and making it fresh in small batches to use up before the color starts to fade, rather than purchasing the already-faded store version that defeats the purpose.

[@YeetusTheFetus]

Ann notes in the video that over time, the dragon fruit becomes more orange coloured instead of pink

[@i8chocolatecake995]

@@SailorDonut I feel like the color fade was also probably the reason for the different colored sauces in the two videos!

[@catreese4515]

Had to look it up and they're currently out of stock. After all that's happened its amazing that she was able to bounce back.

[@admiralgran8920]

Internet churning wheel of hate - this describes it so well. This relates to so much that is out there. I love how you say to make it a great week by being kind to others - I wish so many more could be that way. Very glad I found your videos.

[@lordfreerealestate8302]

You do realize she since sued and the company (Dave's Gourmet) who tried to help her, spent all her money on clothes until she couldn't feed her kids, and still refused to change her behaviour?

[@bronzewool]

This is why it's so important to have professionals who are actually trained to talk about things on youtube, instead of entertainers repeating what they hear online but aren't curious enough to research the subject themselves and just put their faith into what other people are telling them. Anyone can give an opinion about a product, but if you're gonna make yourself the voice of authority then you need to know what you're talking about and have valid reasons that aren't opinion-based (the bright pink sauce makes me uncomfortable so therefore it must be bad on principle).

[@BiBiren]

It really made me think why MattPatt is making "Food Theorist" channel where he had no culinary expertise at all.

[@xchrysantha]

I completely agree with this

[@S41t4r4]

@@BiBiren because of Money. Video Game related content has Generally a Bad CPM compared to food or crafts Videos.

[@raerohan4241]

@@BiBiren I actually think his lack of expertise helps generate content on that front. Him being someone with an "average" level of culinary knowledge means the kinds of questions he'd have about food are more likely to be along the lines of the ones his viewers would have. Those kinds of questions may not even occur to a professional in the culinary field, because there'd be that disconnect between what the average person knows and what they _think_ the average person knows. Anyways, at the end of the day, Food Theory is not a food channel, it's an entertainment channel, and should be treated as such.

[@harleysantillanes9677]

As always, Anne just blows me away with her kindness and professionalism. Queen Anne never disappoints.

[@SassySyntax]

I'm being completely honest here; at least 90% of things in Ann's videos, I have no idea about until she brings them to my attention. What's more, her approach and clear explanations actually make me want to know what topic is being explored, maintaining my interest until the video is over. I learn so much from her, it's unreal. I have no idea how to conclude this, so I'm just going to say thank you to her for making these videos. ^-^

[@tinakay2014]

Ann: Literally the only person I trust on the internet.

[@vincentlee7359]

The main issues of Pink Sauce Lady that I had an issue with: (1) The way she reacted when people criticized her (2) Her lack of food safety and knowledge of things a person in the food industry should know (3) Faked an FDA meeting. (4) Her garbage behavior when she invited one tiktok girl out of the many that critisized her and the talk show host+Pink lady bullied her. It was clear the show had a plan to make her feel like trash.

[@Xoxogossipgurl]

Because the girl is white and white racism is encouraged now a days.

[@socalbarbie1040]

The first 2 issues you named are subjected! She handled herself with Grace and the food industry SUCKS! The pink sauce is safer than most CRAP on the market.

[@Ser_Lefty]

@@socalbarbie1040 How is knowledge about food safety in any way subjective? There are regulations and laws. You have to have the knowledge to follow them. They are there for consumer safety.

[@yoditan]

@@socalbarbie1040 if you think that real criticism she received was handled gracefully and that food safety regulations based on actual science is subjective, that's a you problem. If she had just accepted that she made mistakes and said she would correct them the backlash would not have been that massive. But she literally refused to admit that she had done something wrong or harmful at first.

[@coolchoicebro]

Yup, I'll NEVER BUY THIS SHIT! SHES AN IMMATURE POS

[@TamyM]

The amount of kindness Ann has for every single being on this planet is outstanding. What a wonderful human ❤❤❤❤

[@bleach-pasta]

This is something small but I just wanted to say I appreciate that you have actual, well done captions on your videos. I have auditory processing issues and they help me pay attention. Thanks for the great content!

[@snktsu]

if i recall correctly from a previous video, her husband, dave, does the closed captioning and some of the video editing! i really love how much work and love goes into all her videos. i think it truly speaks to how lovely and passionate of a person ann is, and how high quality her content is. rather than film a lot of content and hand it off to some random editors to put together, or relying on youtube to do the captions itself, etc. as many creators do, anything that is not her own handiwork is thoughtfully done by someone she is close to and trusts. she truly is, in my opinion, the greatest, and most genuine content creator on the platform.

[@bleach-pasta]

@@snktsu I didn't know he did that, that's really cool. And I agree 100%, she's one of my favorite content creators because how genuinely kind and honest she is. I've learned so much from her.

[@ichmeiner4531]

@@bleach-pasta in some past videos, he snuck in a bit of his own commentary in the captions, so if you haven't binged them, go for the Easter egg hunt 😁

[@bleach-pasta]

@@ichmeiner4531 Will definitely do! Thanks for the info

[@sarah_g_stories]

My first language is not English and it helps me too! 💖

[@ashb7846]

I love that this video shows we always should take things with a grain of salt if it’s being said by someone who is not an expert in their field. Chef P is obviously not an expert, but the conclusions made by her critics were also inaccurate. But Ann being a literal food scientist analyzed the ingredient claims with actual know-how of the variables and not just by making assumptions based on preconceived ideas. That emulsion experimentation and its breakdown was so interesting. It’s things like that which keep me hooked on this channel. I never know what I’ll learn 😊

[@thegayestgoth]

Chef Pii, aka Veronica Shaw, defamed Dave's Gourmet after they so kindly picked up her sauce, blew through ALL of her money, asked Dave's Gourmet for more, was told no, and then she claimed she "signed a terrible contract" , Dave's scammed her, and apparently didn't take that money and refund her unhappy customers. On top of that, Veronica is disliked due to her lack of ability to accept criticism. She's disliked for lying, deflecting, and not taking responsibility for selling a product that was improperly packaged and was molded and exploding, shipped in a plastic zipper bag with no refrigeration. Veronica also attacked Ellie because Veronica couldn't handle being called out for her bullshit.

[@ashb7846]

@@thegayestgoth …ok

[@greenpuffle]

You covered this story so fairly without any bias, and backed up with facts and science. Your channel has always been a gem Ann ever since the Instagram and Twitter desserts (I joined around that time!) but your channel has blossomed into something just beyond cooking and teaching us a lot of valuable lessons like fact checking and safety. Thank you to the whole Reardon family, we all love you!

[@eboniclarke177]

She has debunked all the negative claims on pink sauce lol.

[@_.-._.-.]

@@eboniclarke177 except she didn't? She acknowledged that chef p was unprofessional, that the packaging was awful, and that the initial AND remade labels were incorrectly printed. She was clearly unbiased throughout the video.

[@labj143]

​@@eboniclarke177 The only thing she debunked were the parts about the emulsifier and the "deaths". Which, one seemed obvious, but the test for the other was really fascinating. She did however, go into the bad labels and improper shipping.

[@alexi8741]

I love how it feels like this channel never leaves a stone unturned when it comes to internet controversy. I was genuinely surprised to see that this was a valid recipe, as everyone else seemed to say otherwise. But the proof is right here! It can be done. Another amazing vid :)))

[@helentee9863]

I'd never heard of dragon fruit powder, that was REALLY interesting

[@Missakiah]

I think a lot of anger to her simply comes from her attitude towards costumers but it’s refreshing to see someone just being honest.

[@julieb3907]

That’s exactly my point of view just from an outsider viewing the entire thing.. if her attitude was better, I think it would’ve gone over alot better. But seeing how she so badly mistreated the girl she was on a talk show with, I’m like nope.

[@bluester7177]

And I think her reaction to customerz have a lot to do with people Pilling on her, it's hard to have thousands of people sending you hate, she could have dealt with it better but also a lot worse.

[@AkatsukiNekoJr]

@@bluester7177 Except she and everyone on that talk show ended up gaslighting that customer. Two wrongs don't really make a right.

[@Missakiah]

@@julieb3907 definitely! After I saw the interview I was in awe of how gracefully the customer handled the situation. It all could’ve been avoided but what’s done is done and now she’s getting what she wanted anyways. Whether that’s a good or bad thing... only time will tell.

[@eldrichnemo9312]

agreed. from Pii's perspective Allie was one more person making unfounded claims but was getting a ton of attention for it and willing to accept a TV appearance. If I were in Pii's position it would feel like this person was building rep based on attacking my character, I don't blame her for shutting Allie down right out of the gate

[@snowycho6351]

Ann casually teaching us how to make the sauce at home. I love this channel.

[@alfuncoot4887]

I think it's so important that you mentioned that the pink sauce faded to an apricot colour, because the shelf stable version being sold now is often yellowing in a lot of reviews! great video thanks for all the info.

[@pfifltrigg]

I wish she would have addressed what causes the yellowing because it certainly looks like it's going bad. And whether it would be a shelf stable product.

[@raerohan4241]

@@pfifltrigg Idk if this is the case or not, but the discolouration _could_ have been caused by the pigments in the dragon fruit breaking down or oxidising. It's common in natural pigments - they don't tend to be the most stable molecules out there - and that's why you get stuff like guacamole or apples turning dark, green veggies turning pale over time, etc. It's not necessarily a sign of rotting.

[@dashad.384]

As a Ukrainian, my first thought seeing this sauce was that it looks just like mayo/ranch dyed with beetroot.

[@veridarkpotat5310]

Yeah, for me it looked like polish chłodnik.

[@camelopardalis84]

@@veridarkpotat5310 In Switzerland, the biggest grocery chains sell a raspberry drink that is very pink. It's died with beetroot juice concentrate. You can mix something up that has a similar taste using just raspberry syrup and milk, but it looks really gray.

[@zljmbo]

@@camelopardalis84 yes, powdered beets are used in food coloring (my favorite is strawberry yoghurt) and they can be purchased in spice shops

[@camelopardalis84]

@@zljmbo Interesting. Would never really have considered the possibility of something being purchasable by the public, but why shouldn't it be?

[@camelopardalis84]

@@zljmbo I meant "something like that". :)

[@alireyes4219]

More and more Tiktokers convince me through their actions that: 1) they are addicted to drama 2) their followers are also addicted to drama 3) Tiktok is not a reliable source of information of any kind.

[@peggedyourdad9560]

I think everything is gonna sound dramatic if you have to summarize it in 1 min or less, I think that’s one of the main issues here. The creators also have to beat the algorithm so it also has to be very attention-grabbing so drama is also necessary to remain relevant. Basically, you’re correct in saying that Tik Tok is a very bad source of information unless the person making the video is a professional and even that’s not a guarantee the info is good since, again, any video can be only a min tops and has to be attention-grabbing enough to pop up on enough people’s For You page.

[@nkhg888]

KZbin - heck, the whole internet - is lucky to have you Ann. All of your videos are so well done and just a pleasure to watch. Thank you for sharing your work, ideas, creativity and knowledge with us!!

[@XiaoZhen1234]

I think one of the main irk a lot of people have, aside from the major attitude towards customer, is the blunder of not knowing what the FDA stands for, and also showing her operations to seems like coming from home kitchen without proper food safety and bottling procedures (emphasis on the without proper safety procedures part). So even if it doesn’t actually kill anyone, it still raises concern over the manufacturing safety of the sauce

[@vincebuenconsejo2068]

Same

[@kartos.]

Yeahhh. I worked for a lady who sold cookies out of her home... it was a converted garage into a super professional kitchen. Nobody should be selling food out of their kitchen except tamales lady.

[@kcototheyoyoyo]

@@kartos. very true

[@chucklesdeclown8819]

Yes precisely, I don't get how you can't be like "I'm gonna release a food product without a single approval from food safety" the fact she's not an official chef either gives me the impression she doesn't even have a food handlers permit on her, I'd still not eat the pink sauce unless I made it myself

[@Mama_Bear524]

That and she calls herself a chef with no actual culinary schooling to back it up.

[@NM92846]

Realistically, if she's cooking for other people and getting paid for it, she should at the very least be sanitation certified.

[@spookdeville7916]

Especially on the scale she was on. The old lady who sells plates out her old dusty house ain't got no sanitation certificates 😅 and she got the best food, cars be lined up every Sunday😂

[@JustOneEarth]

I’m a food safety inspector with a county health department here. Our food safety program permits food service, processing, and storage facilities and follow requirements that are state-wide and are consistent with the 2023 FDA Model Food Code. Private chefs do not require permitting where I am. They are using the kitchen, and sometimes food, provided by the client. They aren’t operating in the scale of a caterer and do not have do any preparation at a separate location. Everything is prepared on-site in a home for a client and sometimes their guests. It’s very small scale. This sort of thing doesn’t require a permit or any sort of certification (again, where I am located) but the client could certainly ask that they have some sort of food safety training certification. She mentions that she is RAMP certified but didn’t mention any food safety certification, so I would assume she doesn’t have one. The production and bottling of the pink sauce would require some sort of permit, probably from the state out local health department. But honestly this sort of operation has very little risk of food borne illness, as the final product will be acidified to the point of being shelf stable. Speaking for my department, we would require that the bottles either say they require refrigeration or that she submit the product for testing at a lab to verify the acidity.

[@HolyKhaaaaan]

Oh boy. I hope you've never eaten fast food or at a restaurant of any kind before!

[@AlienZizi]

@@HolyKhaaaaan fast food workers need sanitary certification lol

[@gwynn4thewynn]

@@AlienZizi never heard of a 'sanitary certification' mostly because it doesn't exist- you must be thinking of the food handling & hygiene course you take as part of your day 1 training when you start any job in the food industry, which you have to retake anytime you start a new job. they arent giving mcdonalds workers certificates to hold on to because in all honesty, its not a hard thing to learn because everything you learn all falls on the same idea to not cross contaminate food. next thing you know, you're gonna tell me its better to wear gloves when food prepping

[@15oClock]

The fact I only really heard about pink sauce in the context of "Don't eat it; it's toxic" really goes to show you how the Internet works.

[@qo7052]

same here, i genuinely thought that was true before i saw this video

[@WhereAllYourDeletedCommentsGo]

I mean people did get sick from eating Pii's sauce.

[@janebeckman3431]

Yes, I only heard about it because of the weird original label with made-up numbers.

[@15oClock]

@@WhereAllYourDeletedCommentsGo They didn't happen to come down with a case of ligma, did they?

[@PureLovable]

@@15oClock wtf?

[@melancholybobbyjoe]

I don't get why there has to be so much drama all the time. People pretending to be dead and whatnot from this sauce... The things people will do for views is astonishing. They have no self respect or respect for the people they are dragging into it. I love this very thorough review and all the information you provided, thank for this gem!

[@RaspBerryPies]

Pls go check out what Chef Pi has done. She created sooo much drama and even lied about Dave’s Gourmet not paying her and tricking ppl into giving her money. The only person creating drama is the pink sauce lady herself! Also the unsafe practices I don’t understand how anyone could act the way she did. If I was doing something wrong and my thousands of customers told me I would say sorry not whatever she did.

[@celisewillis]

Yeah that guy was a class act. It's embarrassing when people try to use "I didn't intend to hurt you" as some kind of get-out-jail-free card!

[@emilyrln]

@@celisewillis"I'm sorry if pretending your product killed me affected you in any way." Bruh, who _wouldn't_ be affected by thinking they killed someone?? Tf you on about? 🙄

[@lordfreerealestate8302]

@@RaspBerryPies I have no idea why anyone would defend Chef Pii. Yes, someone pretended to be dead and in the hospital (fake, but honestly could've happened she was being so unsafe). But she herself did awful things. She tried to sue the man who helped her, refused to apologize or change despite multiple chances, abused a critic, and spent money on herself instead of her children (who didn't even have food). It's not just "haters".

[@Laughing_Halibut]

Did not expect this result at all. Ann's expertise and professionalism is just on a completely different level. I have even more respect for her now than I thought I could give.

[@Lila_Moon]

The real crime is people paying $20 for pink ranch.

[@HOTD108_]

People have payed more for less. For example, my local pizza place charges $50 for pineapple pizza.

[@ariciaajames6501]

I agree but then again she isn’t a company which can buy product in bulk and at manufacturing prices. She’s just a tiktoker who made people sauces out of her own ingredients cause people were curious what it tasted like

[@THEHORSELOVER235]

​@@ariciaajames6501 she could buy in bulk at any point

[@letsdoodlesomethinghome3404]

@@HOTD108_ where do you get your pizzas?! 😂 Or just make it yourself, I make it once a month (cos pizza is a treat, not good for you rlly…) 😅

[@Kyle496]

People will pay big money for novelty. Would I spend $20 for a BBQ sauce? Usually not, but if it had a food safe glow in the dark effect? Well I just might if I could plan it around Halloween, forth of July, or whatever else.

[@montialarson]

My issue is that every time she apologizes, it doesn't sound sincere and real. She seems to think that she's done nothing wrong. I still can't get over the fact that she did not know what the FDA was. Actually she did but was unaware that food is one of the initials. "What do mean FDA approved, I don't sell medical products." 🤦🏼‍♀️

[@hhasnohope8488]

Honestly her ignorance is what scares me the most particularly in regards to her not knowing what the FDA is. If her product didn’t blow up on social media I probably wouldn’t bat an eye towards her sauce since people sell food online all the time without FDA involvement (not saying that’s a good thing but it’s common). However, in this case, the product has garnered popularity to the extent that the FDA SHOULD be involved. Hopefully she fixes the nutrition labeling and gets her product FDA approved if she hasn’t already.

[@fancydeer]

@@hhasnohope8488 yep her scam got called out so she had to deliver a real product.

[@Webbgurl2000]

I hope that she will work on herself a little more, get educated and come back with an improved product and professional approach

[@jessicawut]

When she went on that talk show and yelled at & blamed an innocent unhappy customer the entire time, I knew she was an awful person 😂

[@deltaloraine]

Exactly, It’s the way she handled it that made everyone freak out. Advertisement and reputation are so important for a business, and if you’re not careful you can easily scare your customers away. I think she learned that the hard way.

[@taylordouthit3397]

I'm really glad this video was recommended to me. I watched a lot of commentary channels talk about the pink sauce and its really nice to have that element combined with the cooking talent to actually debunk or prove all the theories and rumours. You have a new subscriber for sure ❤

[@gorgonzola86]

The color is actually a very common color for food for nearly everybody from the northern half of germany, because of herring salad. It is made with chopped up pickled beetroot, which gives its sour cream sauce the exact same color. It was one of the favourites of my grandpa and is one of mine too. I guess we will have it for new years.

[@ashko808]

Same! My husband makes "herring under a fur coat" and the top portion always comes out that color due to the beets and mayo. ❤️

[@GeekmanCA]

Was gonna say: beet juice is practically fluorescent it's so pink. It's a really easy natural food colouring.

[@TribulationsSolo]

The use of beetroot was my first assumption.

[@laura5819]

@@TribulationsSolomine too. I thought she had just added beetroot to bought ranch dressing to be honest.

[@madtabby66]

That and natural coloring will be different. Tired of "I want all natural!/EWWW ITS NOT UNIFORM!"

[@lieanazebinraza]

I officially declare that Ann is the coolest content creator in KZbin.

[@kaylieghskorner9650]

I’d support that law!

[@Dunja0712]

You have my vote 🙃

[@fardna9699]

A HUGE AGREE

[@HeleneLogan]

YES!

[@lexi_grace_yt]

I agree 😜

[@imakefoodhappen]

I think at the end of the day, if a person marketing a food product says "i didn't know what FDA was", it makes perfect sense to not trust them.

[@teashortie9268]

14:39 personally I feel that yellow lids actually look way better sense the Yellow lid compliments the color of the sauce

[@emilyrln]

Yes; and a pink lid would have to be carefully matched to the product, which takes money, time, and effort, not to mention a consistent product.

[@WENDDEAD]

A thing about the shipping that I wish you mentioned is that the Pink Sauce was not shipped with any ice packs. And shipped during the summer which was very hot this year. Which is why a lot of people reviewed bloated bottles, (these people didn't eat it).

[@Aaaaaaa-ji8kh]

And the sauce inside was very chunky/rotten from what I’ve seen due to the heat. Plus the glitter inside of some bottles (might’ve only been one but like.. still yikes).

[@gremloid]

I was so surprised when she didn't bring this up as I feel it was one of the biggest concerns! The product does have preservatives (less than 2% citric acid in the mix) but even then its still really worrying that there was no sort of refrigeration

[@snakewithapen5489]

Ik the rumors of botulism were unfounded, but this alone really does make it seem like it's at least possible. Good thing those people didn't eat theirs and have to find out :/

[@tsm688]

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. What the hell did anyone think would happen, mail-ordering ranch dressing in a heatwave?

[@sasentaiko]

… in what country is ranch sold in the refrigerated case? Ice packs, lol.

[@Rimorine]

I have never heard of botulism before and that made me think that a series on food safety and things to watch out for would be fantastic. I would love it if Ann released a series on the basics of safe cooking and storing!

[@cairrean2412]

Botulinum is why you don't feed honey to infants.

[@hinatamercury]

The classic example where people botulism is canned beans if it was not properly canned. Basically if a can is bloated do not eat it as the likelihood of it causing botulism is high. It's very dangerous as it just does not cause diarrhea, it also causes paralysis and eventually death. The bacteria is actually also used for Botox and it's where this procedure got it's name. In very small doses and in a controlled procedure it is safe to use

[@dianamiller3307]

You are the second person I've seen recently who didn't know what Clostridium boluilinum is (the first was a RN). C. botulinum produces one if the deadliest toxins known to man and is where Botox comes from. How do people not know about Botulism?

[@zammmerjammer]

I know all about botulism because that was my mom's favourite buzzword when I was a kid for why she just HAD to throw food out that looked perfectly fine (she's one of these people who assumes everything is poison the moment the expiration date hits). Finally, when I was 10 years old and she'd just thrown out a whole-ass loaf of bread for no reason, I looked up WTF "botulism" means. Turns out NO! Botulism IS dangerous in cases of food poisoning but it happens only in VERY SPECIFIC circumstances because the bacteria are anaerobic (exposure to oxygen kills them). You can't get botulism from stale bread, mom!

[@lindamarshall3485]

That's a great idea, I wish she would. I had worked in restaurants for years and was an experienced home cook, with what I thought was a good grounding in basic food safety - I'm the kind of person who always reads the articles about this kind of thing. And then I took a food safety course for a job I had, and, while I did in fact know the majority of things the class taught, it had a few surprises for me. Botulism is probably the trickiest because of being anaerobic.

[@speccysquaregolike9629]

Man pretends to die from Pink Sauce, then turns around and says "it wasn't my intent to make your business look bad". Excuse me??

[@derekeastman7771]

As long as it’s clear he didn’t actually die it’s obviously a joke. Personally, I am not touching some internet lady’s homemade sauce shipped through the mail with a ten foot pole, and I don’t think anybody else should either.

[@maxsync183]

@@derekeastman7771 sure do whatever but you can't say "I died from your product, didn't mean to affect your business tho" lmao that just doesn't make sense

[@Mrsircuddlesworth]

@@derekeastman7771 Whether something was "obviously a joke" or not doesn't matter. The fact is, making such an outrageous false claim is malicious and illegal for a reason.

[@elizabetholiviaclark]

@@derekeastman7771 It's not a joke. He fabricated his death. And it was not obvious that he was a liar until he came forth with the truth about having lied. In the meantime, one imagines that he caused a great deal of distress for some. This woman got off to a bad start, and perhaps she did not conduct herself professionally, but if she gets the bugs ironed out and is connected with a reputable company, there is no health-related reason for anyone not to try her sauce. I don't like ranch, generally speaking, for example. That's the only reason I probably won't buy it. I'm not going to hold this shaky start against her forever, though. I'm hoping she gets her bearings and makes a success of it.

[@kalinaszek]

@derekeastman7771 I'm buying home made cheese from old ladies on the village streets. Haven't died yet, 10/10 would eat again

[@ThatOneCoolGuy69420]

Just found this channel. Going down the rabbit hole now. Great content. It’s nice to see a mature level headed reasonable person on KZbin. You seem unbiased, fair and kind. Subscribed.

[@cerenaobrien7970]

Ann is a true boss 😅

[@rainbowsubs2]

At this point you're literally the only KZbinr I trust😭

[@morkusmorkus6040]

I wouldn't. She WAS shilling for Kamikoto knives recently...an obvious and clear scam.

[@infiniteoaths]

@@morkusmorkus6040 Do you know where this happened? As in which video?

[@rainshadows17]

love the Moriah Elizabeth pfp. But yes, thats true. Especially in "Food hacks"

[@lizardbyheart2817]

@@infiniteoaths look at the videos that are around 4th of November. I commented about the knifes. They are indeed a scam and hide it with vague language

[@Jeevitham15011]

@@morkusmorkus6040 6 months ago, people were taking them as sponsors. They didn’t know it was a scam because it wasn’t revealed yet. Also Ann could’ve not come across the news.

[@madnut13]

I admit I felt physical relief watching this video from hearing your concise, scientific, and unbiased opinion on this matter and not being able to get a clear idea on what was really goin on. Not only did you did you deliver information in a factual way, but you were also so understanding and empathetic to everyone's situation. The world would truly be a better place if more people were like you!

[@mhenderson7673]

Yeah it's so refreshing to get a clear, fact-based look at it all. Amazing how the internet can just pick something up and run with it

[@Powered1Buttercup]

@@mhenderson7673 the food theorist reason for the bottles being reused being the cap honestly pissed me off, yeah everything is pink, who cares if the cap is yellow, yellow goes well with pink anyway, why focus on that? I just don’t get it

[@jwysw]

Personally I don't care if the recipe is safe or not. The moment she admitted that she didn't know what the FDA stood for or why it applied to her product, she lost all credibility. And her response to people reviewing her product and just not liking it (ignoring the more sensational reviews) was frankly immature. I just can't get over those issues.

[@Qrtuop]

Well OK but it's still unfair to claim she's lying about the ingredients or saying the sauce is dangerous.

[@bubblelaydy]

I agree 100%

[@cairrean2412]

@@Qrtuop Ann just proved that the nutritional information is *completely* inaccurate. How can you trust the ingredients if the nutritional label is wrong?

[@plantspit518]

@@Qrtuopone thing Ann did not talk about is the concerns of the initial pink sauce showing up to people’s homes swollen in the bottle and displaying signs of being rotten. Just because no one came out saying they were sick after eating the sauce does not mean it did not have the capability of causing illness. We all have an innate response to rotten foods, deterring us from consuming foods that smells off. So just because everyone was smart enough to not force themselves to eat sauce that has gone off, doesn’t mean it is safe. Even the consistency of the sauce done by Ann is not the same as the initial sauce Pii was sending off.

[@Maka556]

People commenting “She didn’t know what the FDA stood for” just broadcast their own ignorance. The FDA does not and ever has approved any kind of food product for market.

[@doki1641]

i love how she's neutral to this topic and not like others who use this controversy as a clickbait farm

[@kenziehurlock]

The fact that she thought it was okay to just make her own nutrition facts label in photoshop is so messed up and just fill in random numbers that she thought looked good.

[@psychonauts0]

I mean... "make her own nutrition facts label and Photoshop." You know the FDA doesn't create your label for you right? That's the product manufacturer's job. The FDA merely creates the guidelines manufacturers must follow when creating their label. Lying on your label is definitely a very real issue, and she shouldn't be doing it for any reason, but what might seem like malice on her part, is likely just stupidity/mistakes in her understanding of how the calculations work.

[@orcashamudeluxeu567]

@@psychonauts0 That makes sense and all but any nutrition label really should be accurate. Mistakes in the label are worth criticizing

[@Lila_Moon]

@@orcashamudeluxeu567 They literally said that in their reply.

[@dalzmc]

@@psychonauts0 I don't know much about this pink sauce or anything else about it, and frankly I don't care, but this was a bad take. It's a mistake if she knows how to do it and messes up. It's a wrongdoing because she would obviously know she doesn't know what she's doing, but still chose to do it anyways. You would know whether or not you can do an accurate label, and if you know you don't know how to do something important like this, doing it yourself anyways is a bad thing to do. If your logic is applied to other things, there could be some very serious consequences

[@julioaugusto1529]

I love how she was taken down and torn apart, it served her well

[@ss_r_]

The magic about your videos is that I might not be interested on the topic at first but I always learn a lot so I watch every single video that you post. You are amazing, much love from Spain 💕

[@Reecex3]

Same! I’ve never even heard of the pink sauce but I watched this enthralled

[@stillnotstill]

Yeah I didn't know I wanted this info but wow was I engaged!

[@TheFakeyCakeMaker]

My only disappointment is that Ann didn't address the rottenness and expiry date claims or discuss how the pink sauce should be kept or how it should have been preserved for shipping. I think that would have made the video completely thorough.

[@WickedPhase]

Yes! I was looking for that to be explained too!

[@ghostiiiekun6636]

She did the best she could without actually buying the shit

[@ShragaMatate]

look in minute 2:27

[@ok_schlatter]

if it’s like any other mayo or ranch (which it seems to be), it’s shelf stable until you open it. it doesn’t need to be refrigerated until you open it

[@leam1978]

The acids are the preservatives.

[@dberube82]

I recently watched the video and though I agree with your take, the FDA strictly enforces food products in the US. Her patches were required to be shipped with dry ice and she didn't, causing her sauces to go bad during shipping. Her shipping process was never fixed, at all. You got that one wrong. Also, personally if someone is making a food product and doesn't know they need to go through FDA regulations to bring it to market then this is a person who doesn't know what they are doing and putting people health at risk. She was in fact visited by the FDA who did tell her she needed to make changes to continue operating, she didn't but instead sold to Daves Gourmet and then sued by them.

[@TylerAO12]

Exactly! She even tried to (pathetically) defend herself by saying she wasn’t a pharmacist and wasn’t selling drugs, so why did she have to listen to the FDA? 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️ That alone proved she should’ve been banned from even entering her own kitchen 😑

[@minnie7453]

the tiktok community is out of their minds. “I’m sorry if pretending to die from your product impacted your business, NOT my intent 😘”

[@miscellaneouscogitations7322]

😅☠️

[@FocusingOnChrist]

Exactly! How is that guy not being sued for harming her business with lies?

[@ArborParva]

When Ann said a guy fabricated his death I thought it was a teenager, and then the video cuts to a grown ass man...

[@victoriam.4927]

My best guess is that it was meant to be a joke video (how would he post the video to his TikTok if he was dead?), but ppl took it seriously & it went off the rails.

[@arturoaguilar6002]

That's the expected behavior when people act like a social media platform exists just in a bubble.

[@sydneyterral]

Im allergic to Soy and Soy Lecithin has been a nemesis when it comes to food shopping. Thanks for the heads up about the other name for it on labels!!

[@fancydeer]

this right here is one of the reasons why Pink Sauce lady and people like her are dangerous. Improper labeling, mishandling food, straight up scammy behavior. This kind of shit will get someone killed. She got lucky someone with an allergy didn't wind up with her sauce.

[@Freedomcustom]

gotta love them 'E' numbers

[@sarahshroom]

as someone allergic to citric acid and citrus -- i feel you on those labels and how hard it can be to food shop 😩

[@timetravelingpenguin]

I wonder if anyone has made like a cheat sheet for names on food labels and what they actually mean, I feel like it could be really useful

[@hazelcrisp]

@@timetravelingpenguin A quick google search is all you need

[@gothiclg]

Does anyone else love that Dan will seemingly try everything? I honestly appreciate him sacrificing his pallet.

[@Solanin0803]

That poor, brave man

[@JeanMarceaux]

I'm pretty sure it's "palate", unless Dan is sacrificing warehouse storage units No need to edit anything, just an FYI

[@crazycrafts3414]

his name is Dave

[@hedgehog3180]

I think that was to be expected when he married a food scientist.

[@celeca7]

@@crazycrafts3414LOL i was thinking who the hell is dan?

[@PhillipTopical]

I've enjoyed your content for years and just want to say thank you for both being such a wonderful creator but also so educational and kind while doing so.

[@ombremad6951]

I'm kind of an old person (also, not living in the US) and I'm discovering this "pink sauce" with this video. What a truly strange experience to discover that a LOT of people are genuinely very upset about something I didn't know even existed.

[@SapSapient]

Same (though in the US). Reading these comments is like looking into crazy-land. Regardless of the results of Ann's tests, how are people so emotional about something that will never affect them?

[@annabeckman4386]

Amen @ombremad !!!!!! I'm not old lol but I am not a tiktok crazed teen 🙊

[@murdermyinsanity]

@@SapSapient Can’t speak for everyone but I think it’s a combination of things. First the creator was very irresponsible in putting this product out. She personally said she didn’t need to follow fda standards because she wasn’t selling a drug. She also knew the serving amount was completely wrong. She thought it was cute because it’s the “angel number” whatever that means. All of those things combined to make it seem she had no care for the safety of her customers. Second she’s extremely mean. Reacts with anger and condescension to any kind of critique no matter how helpful or reasonable. Third children are a large base on tik tok and they don’t have the critical thinking skills to make fully informed choices. And fourth she’s a black woman getting successful and no matter how many legitimate criticisms there are it would be ridiculous to pretend that isn’t a problem for anyone. So ultimately I think it’s the same outrage people would have if a roller coaster with no safety features opened up and the owner said “well no one has been hurt yet and I don’t run an amusement park so I don’t need to follow amusement park standards.” It doesn’t affect me at all. I’m not going on that thing. But I’m still upset that it’s being allowed to run while the investigations are happening.

[@southerncharmed4118]

Well I’m in the US and knew nothing about any of this and I’m not quite sure why so many people care!

[@mothmos]

Well duh. Just as how i have no knowlege about sports and yet loads of people are hooked on whos gonna win, whos gonna fight, etc. You're in older generation and yet you stil dont know that the world works this way? That you wont know anything and everything?

[@intheair1987]

Wait, why isn't there a super thanks button on your video? I just learned about the button and wanted to dedicate the first time to you. Ann, you are the role model of the internet. No drama, no lies, but you get views after views with just facts, curiosity, and positivity. It puts a smile on my face when I think about how much love you're getting from the whole world :))

[@vaughnhaney7020]

Oh hey, I finally understand how emulsifiers work! I can't eat eggs due to health issues so I've pretty much had to give up things like creamy sauces, but now I'm considering trying to find an emulsifier that's safe for me to make my own stuff like that. I love the educational aspect to your videos, really helps me to appreciate how cooking is a wonderful blend of science and art :) Regarding the actual pink sauce thing, I'm honestly super glad to learn that it seems to have not been legitimately dangerous like people thought. That being said- I still wouldn't trust Chef Pii at all. Her arrogant attitude and haste to defensiveness and excuses are not qualities of a person I'd ever trust with any product, but especially not anything going in my body. The incorrect labelling is actually quite dangerous in some situations (even though not in the same way as botulism), knowing the carbs and fats can be so important for people with certain health issues like diabetes, knowing the calories is important for anyone trying to lose or gain weight, and honestly I doubt the fiber amount is right or the ingredients list is in the correct order which if so is dangerous for people like me with quantity-dependent food sensitivities.

[@sorchamh]

Look into aquafaba for an egg free mayonnaise base, that's the liquid in a tin of chickpeas. I've made mayo with it before and it works pretty well

[@Serena-or7sl]

soy lethicin is the one for me - it tastes good and it's easy to store. it's sold as a food supplement sometimes (look for the pure ones)

[@viivi2001]

have you tried vegan mayo and vegan sauces? those don't have eggs and at least vegan mayo is just as delicious and creamy as the regular one

[@poppythedogofwonders]

Same. I don't trust her at all. During the first rounds of the product being sent out, a lot of it went bad during shipping (presumably because she didn't add preservatives). That blunder combined with her personality and other blunders (FDA). I do not trust that woman.

[@inkavanderbijl7504]

I make regularly Vegan Mayo with Aquafaba, it works really well. Feel free to spice it up to your taste. And use the chickpeas to make hummus which is also a delicious creamy sauce.

[@angelinakat749]

She’s using the “I’m only human, I’m not perfect” excuse. She is selling something other people are ingesting. She is not perfect, but that’s not relevant to providing factual and accurate food labeling. It’s her responsibility. Her rhetoric is not only unprofessional, but also irresponsible.

[@LilyLewis771]

I’ve been wanting someone who knows what they’re doing to make the pink sauce and actually test the recipe for so long!! It’s so cool to know that the sauce is possible with the listed ingredients, if you emulsify it and use dragonfruit! I didn’t know it was possible without adding something like heavy cream or mayo.

[@tabiibat]

The sad bit is that if she would’ve just gotten a business advisor and taken some actual steps to learn how to produce her weird pink sauce she’d probably have made so much more money.

[@brooklyn7043]

Exactly it’s honestly such a fun gimmick and I wish it was… stable

[@beabea5985]

She opted not to care if she doesn't know what the hell she's doing, regardless if it harms her clients or not. Once you're an adult, it's your responsibility to know your supposed craft, especially if you're selling it for actual money. This whole situation showed me that whoever this vapid, entitled, victim-playing woman is, she doesn't know how food works, what bacteria is or who Pasteur was. I wouldn't want to be operated on by a surgeon that's in fact a random corn farmer with a scalpel in his hand and I wouldn't want to eat food by someone who's either undereducated or simply stupid enough not to know how food works.

[@davidcoghill8612]

I'm sure they would have got a business advisor and taken those steps if they the 6-figure bank balance it would have taken.

[@davidcoghill8612]

@@beabea5985 Maybe watch the video first as it completely debunks all the things you just said about her.

[@mokko759]

That woman's ego is out of control. Her utter lack of concern for her customer's safety, astounding ignorance on food production regulations and lack of even a hint of professionalism is revolting. When confronted in an interview about customers being upset about the quality of the sauce, her response was basically "Well, they still bought it/I still got paid." She doesn't give a shit about her customers, she just wants to make a name for herself and get paid.

[@CrazyChiks1000]

I think one reason people were so concerned about getting sick is a lot of bottles in the first round of orders either exploded in shipment or the bottles bloated so heavily they nearly exploded upon being open and turned brown and smelled rotten. Not every person had an experience like that but quiet a few people reviewing it said it smelled so bad they didn't want to eat it at all. It seems like the worry spiraled out of control a bit.

[@alphabetsoup6681]

Honestly I feel that way about any ranch dressing. Ranch dressing is foul in general.

[@ladydubhblossom]

it wasn't helpful that chef PI was being standoffish with her ingredients either when people asked because they were worried about their food allergies.

[@katherine8966]

I think there was undisclosed dairy in the early versions, which wasn't treated so bloated when exposed to heat during transport.

[@sofiadragon6520]

@@ladydubhblossom Exactly. After the way she misunderstood what the FDACS was and that whole strange conversation she broadcast with a man who she claimed was a state employee I just lost all confidence in her word. It felt so shady and so strange as someone who has worked in food service (admittedly not in Florida.) In Florida, as far as I can Google, she does need to register her business with them and have certificates for the business to cater events so she was probably skirting the very edge or even stepping over the cottage food laws if she really hadn't ever interacted with them. It's the regulatory for commercial food services for Florida state [Florida Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services to be specific] and she got it confused with the Feds Food and Drug Administration claiming she wasn't trying to medicate anyone. It felt so much like a truck driver saying they didn't know why people were asking them about a CDL because they don't work with Chronic Disease Lists.

[@catelynh1020]

@@sofiadragon6520 Also, don't cottage food laws not work for anything going over state lines? I could be wrong, but i feel like i read something along the lines of the law's leniency changes as you go from selling from like a small market to shipping across state lines