Hoyoverse Scandal in Japan, It's WORSE Than You Think - Nerumero [FULL CONTEXT]

[@Rakudenashi]

There's a part in the stream where he talks about how frustrated he was seeing HSR and ZZZ thrive while Genshin Impact remains the same, despite how much he has spent on Genshin (He is a huge whale btw). He then started to think that the money he spent on Genshin (which he had hoped would be used to make Genshin better) is actually being used to improve HSR/ZZZ instead. I’m really glad that some people in the Japanese Genshin Impact community are starting to see how bad HoYoverse's management is.

[@ryuukusensei]

Yeah, I saw that! You mean at 03:02:19, right? (I have a list of timestamps of what was being said when I watched through it) I was debating whether to include it or not but I guess I should have.😭

[@----x-----]

genshin is hoyo's piggybank, they have no love for it

[@Gacha-Gaming-India]

Does this make sense to you ? If genshin is their piggy bank why would they hate it ? Aren't they making her and zzz for the same f reason money ? Every game ever made is to make money .. am I missing something ? ​@@----x-----

[@FreuRozen]

​@@Gacha-Gaming-Indiaatleast update the quality of life feature that player wanted. But no, they only do the quality of life genshin player asked at their new games so the genshin player need to "pay again" at the new game to enjoy the new features

[@Telldastory222]

@@Gacha-Gaming-India its piggybank but sure they love it because community also love it. So it has no value that hoyo need to improve anything while people blindly download the game and spend on it. The problem of this is not how scummy the company is. The problem is how scummy they are brainwash kids into gambling and tell the CC to have more positive community so people has no need to send harsh feedback on hoyo to improve the game. These gambling companies are just lazy.

[@AdiBagusPrasetya]

The moment they removed the "Tech otaku saves the world" jargon, i knew something was wrong

[@ivansentanu3498]

I see, that's why I've never seen that recently... damn... I really love that slogan

[@nguyenquanghung2344]

@@ivansentanu3498 they start their own vilain arc

[@f.b.l.9813]

Tech Otakus doom the World!

[@a4arick106]

@@ivansentanu3498 the rumor has been going on since like the start of 2022 with the merge of the company with their other studios (Cognosphere and such) and Rebranding their name from MiHoyo to Hoyoverse, that resulted in Cai Haoyu and other teams managing to fill in the higher position of the company, and people speculated that's what caused the greed and their favoritism over having a better "reputation" in the public eyes rather than actually caring for the community. They started doing a lot of stunt publicity like doing TED talks on how successful they are, investing money to Nuclear Power Plant in China, pledging services to the CCP, pretty much starting to somewhat become political with the stance that adhere to the chinese citizen.

[@Kimmsey]

"Tech otakus saved their money"

[@Jetxers]

Like I said before, I'm glad this man is on our side. Being able to receive full context from a Japanese speaker is an absolute gift.

[@fanyang5647]

There is no our side. We just need to support better games. it's not a war between players.😢

[@NewBee-j4y]

@@fanyang5647 you dont get it bro. if this guy is not a WW cc. we might not know about this scandal in details. i'm pretty sure hoyo CC dont care about this issues and tryna hide it to their audience which is understandable .because in the end its all about money

[@tohrubo]

Y'all remember the ZZZ CC contract leak to not speak about WuWa, I'm starting to believe that it's not 100% a fake...

[@maymeoo21]

There's been rumours that Hoyo made 2.5 Million Yen contracts for CN streamers demanding especially not to play wuwa(around its release) and encourage shit talking to it or else they will get kicked out from official cc servers..I thought it was rumour too at first but now??It's starting to feel like real to me.

[@bonkusch2909]

Disclaimer: Just a Speculation based on the deletion of the said clip from Fab Yaps Channel. I think Fobmaster was banned from ZZZ Content Creation because of his Stream talking about Wuwa Community tagging him as a Hater and bringing bad takes about wuwa while using a ZZZ clip. The said video is now deleted and kinda just timed perfectly and conveniently after the banning. This whole take is not backed by Evidence and It's just my own opinion and speculation

[@ZaniWuwa]

This is funny because hoyo is like 10 times bigger than kuro😭😭

[@bonkusch2909]

@@ZaniWuwa they're afraid, Crocodiles are afraid 😭

[@TheMercifulOne1]

​@@ZaniWuwafr 😂 ... Hoyo is fkin Whale and Kuro is just Nemo. Why they do this LMAO

[@Therdos1]

We also had something similar in Ger. The KZbinr also said a bit about how hoyo deals with CC's, especially when a CC becomes critical of Hoyo games

[@Dante1282]

who was it?

[@Therdos1]

@@Dante1282 Reygan, But I don't remember which video, it was over a year ago when he talked about it

[@Gabjnr07]

They do it everywhere, it also happens in the Spanish community

[@shrfdhhwdgj]

特に酷いのがこの件についてnerumeroのことを攻めている人が沢山居ることだ。 普通に考えたら明らかにHoyoが悪いのに「ねるめろだからしょうがない」「この内容を暴露するとかnerumero最低だわ」と言ってる人が何人も居るんだ。 nerumeroのコメント欄にはそういう人はほとんど居なかったがTwitterを見れば沢山居ることが分かる。 企業として競合他社のゲームをやらせないのは普通のことだと言っている阿呆が居るがそれは金銭のやり取りがあった場合のみでありHoyoはnerumeroにお金を払っていないのだからWuwaをやらないように頼む権利はHoyoには無い

[@LargeBanana]

These people have mental ilness. They think they can force Nerumero to be their forever genshin streamer all to validate their own gaming choice, not because they love Nerumero. Not only that, some of these people just want to stir trouble. Hopefully Nerumero is fine and I can see that the community is supporting him. Wuthering Waves community is small, but we welcome Nerumero with open arms. He's a great streamer.

[@Havczz]

Now that he's free, he can play whatever games he likes, which is better than dedicating his life to one company. It's just sad to see how people always find ways to defend everything Hoyo does.

[@fanyang5647]

You are Kurobots if you say this to Hoyoshills

[@invin_2940]

my reaction when I saw this: they sound JUST like a hoyoshill alright (I don't know if translation would work on that word "hoyoshill", so basically it means people who defends hoyoverse like their life depends on it). Also the fact that it is on twitter is very expected for me. I am convinced twitter is the second worse social media platform ever.

[@yejiyej3369]

@@invin_2940they called Hoyocults and Hoyodogs

[@sirbeary5942]

Great video man this made me understand the whole situation much better. Sadly other CC's and Twitter are already turning this into a Kurobot vs hoyoshill battle because they know it will bring in views so it will defo stir up a lot of hate in both communities. Can only hope more people watch this and understand the issue. This isn't a fanbase problem its a full on behind the scenes management problem and that should be the main focus and thing we should call out. Because what they did was really shitty. 😔

[@Sunydancer]

I always thought it was strange when some CCs openly said they WEREN'T going to play Wuwa when it launched. Like, what was there to GAIN by saying that? Now I know why.

[@RedJackSun-m8e]

It is a contract so when i would sign up for a job you are not allow to do business with others. Otherwise you would get fired due to different business and of course competition. Many Vtuber in japan has alot of restriction before they can stream any game they need first permission to allow to play it. But I I think its still bad practice as CC that you are not allow to play other game for the most part.

[@byooob]

@@RedJackSun-m8e being sponsored as a gamer, is not a job at the company. Wrong analogy.

[@MikeCastle166]

​@@byooobagreed. Terrible analogy.

[@cynthiahembree3957]

@@RedJackSun-m8e In some countries being contracted is not the same as being employed by a company. Streamers and other CCs fall under the former.

[@RedJackSun-m8e]

@@cynthiahembree3957 alright

[@madohiromi8128]

if KURO reach nerumero to be their official wuwa CC with all this things happen, Its gonna be nuclear 😅

[@geeasem]

they did, he tweeted about it

[@Shhh_94]

​@@geeasemthat's massive 😮

[@ゆきみね-f7y]

he did get official offer from KURO, so he'll stream wuwa on 1/2.

[@getmyuted]

​@@ゆきみね-f7ysauce?

[@seishifrost5599]

Not the first hoyo mask off moment, and not a last

[@ahj7914]

This was really interesting. I recently discovered Nerumero after he did a watchalong of Wuwa 2.0 and binged his Wuwa content. I didn't know all of this happened. I watched him play and he's really enjoying it. He really loved 1.3 and Shorekeeper and he can't wait for a rerun cause he just missed it when he came back to playing Wuwa. I wholeheartedly welcome him. I'm actually happy someone as big as him started playing Wuthering waves cause this means a lot for the JP wuwa community. I hope the game thrives even more.

[@mochagungh]

If you like him, maybe you also gonna like SagiharaRinne too, try to visit her

[@Glaivekiyo]

WOW THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING

[@Telldastory222]

Change everything? You are not gae now? 😂

[@smashingguy336]

Under 10 minutes

[@Kroxie]

@@smashingguy336 😂

[@snalickk]

Hi glaive

[@htet2002linn]

EVERY SINGLE THING.

[@An1metrev1n]

Thank you for showing this, it's a real eye opener. I play genshin impact, hsr, zzz, and wuthering waves. After this i really hope wuthering waves gets more popular.

[@utsubyo]

So once again we're reminded that the best advertisement for wuwa is done by genshin devs lmfao

[@ArsevensX]

So the drama 7 months ago that those who wants to cover ZZZ is not allowed to play WuWa has some truth in it?

[@Theblecquetzal]

Not only that, the atsu thing may also have truth to it. It seems really scummy rn ngl

[@Male_Ficent]

​@Theblecquetzal can you elaborate on that?

[@HH-kr4fv]

2-3 months ago, there was also a similar drama in CN side. The whole message of Hoyo devs saying not to play WuWa was post on social media. It blew up even in jp side as well.

[@mr.edelweiss]

It all comes full circle, the circle of hoyo cc manipulation ​@Theblecquetzal

[@ShiningJoshnightcore]

​ @Male_Ficent asianguy is a twitch streamer who was close to a hoyo employ and so he used that acquaintance to put himself in a pedestal by putting a good word about a person and that said person would get contract. Now when we look online we see thousands of commentors but since genshin is extremely boring the viewers in a stream would barely pass 2 or three digits for these streamers including the asiainguy/atsu, but the contract made it so they could earn AND get viewers. GAining viewers is the steps of becoming a streamers obviously but putting t he stairs in an all time watch under the eyes of one guy made it so everyone talked good about atsu BCS they obviously wanted money and reach, this cause atsu to start controlling te whole space and during last lantern rite a guy named braxophone posted a doc talking about how atsu caused him to be unapproachable since he didn't think brax was 'good' and so brax had no collabs and no friends in the space, to top it all of peoplein genshin space started making fun of brax's initial guide but fortunately brax wasn't a pussy and gained his own audience and loyal fanbase but after brax said this out loud many other smaller creator said this was true and backing it up that's when a hated content creator namely tectone who has been saying this out loud and calling out both the creators and the game itself came out and backed brax up, he also had situations with atsu too and then a long drama happened for months and atsu dug himself a grave by posting two docs trying to play a victim card and even the people he had put a good name for started going against him so he said eh is going on a break and hasn't been back.

[@Yewrenegade]

TDLR to people who saw this: Blame the genshin devs/hoyo devs that made Nerumero being ostracized twice. Respect his choice and support him, also as Wuwa players, please welcome to our community with open arms

[@nobraincelltobeseen]

marketing team stayed chilled while the devs being witch hunt with pitchforks and torches.

[@sunnybirbz]

That's exactly how Im going to approach this. Hoyo (specifically the g.i dev team) only started to get off their rear ends as soon as wuwa was approaching them. Zzz launch around the time of wuwa? Qol suddenly starts to become prioritized? And here I thought CN would've dropped hoyo like a bad habit by now but nah! Genshin is reaching it's conclusion one way or another. With or without their supporters.

[@netparse]

@@sunnybirbz because it is likely that they knew that Tencent was behind it and that scares mihoyo. Do people really believe that Kurogames, with its human capital that was very low at the launch of Wuthering Waves, could optimize UE4 so quickly? That shit is not optimized overnight, much less in 5 or 6 months, that was the work of Tencent (the relationship between Black Myth Wukong devs - former Tencent employees and Solon has been known for a long time) because they are the only ones who have been dedicated to the research and branching of the UE engine into CN (World of King will use UE5 but it is not known if it is an mmorpg or sigle player for mobiles like GI/wuwa)

[@forrestch]

i am looking forward to project mugen instead. Tencent is still a huge red flag for me and sadly they already place their claw on wuwa

[@hakumenx1]

​@@forrestch tencent has far more successes than failures. Warframe and PoE are the faces of good f2p games with tencents backing. Those 2 companies + kuro all signed an agreement stating they will remain independent and tencent only wants dividends

[@anxientkana]

This is incredibly frustrating. Hoyo literally has the gacha market on a chokehold, so what are they doing this for? It makes no sense.

[@wanabid98]

Oh didn't expect u here

[@anxientkana]

@@wanabid98 I'm kinda commenting this under the hood but not really, coz I put down a comment on Akamasa's twitter post with how disappointed I am. But it's kinda impossible to ignore this because it's such an insidious situation that... you just can't help but feel upset at it, no? I'm not gonna bring this to my twt though, that's not my platform and Ryuuku-sensei has done a stellar job at breaking it down.

[@theolailheugue9402]

​@@anxientkana cause they lose money and player to Kuro. The numbers on those part of the commu show it. 5.3 of Genshin was totaly overshadow by WuWa 2.0 and its not the first time it happening cause that also concern ZZZ.

[@resolvedfate1295]

@@theolailheugue9402Ya only over here in the west. In Japan and China for example. Genshin still gets more attention than Wuwa over there.

[@derikpham3368]

@@theolailheugue9402 what number? Asking for some hoyoshills out there

[@frince3255]

Thanks for the full context explanation Ryuuku Sensei. This basically convinces that CCHoyo was indeed informed not to play games outside the scope of hoyo games (at least in the context of games that have potential rivals). This kind of rumor has been out for a long time since a few months ago but hearing this big CC makes the situation look bad, especially seeing himself saying he is not bound by any contract and playing Gensin because he likes it is really unfortunate

[@_schrodingerscat4103]

On the surface, miHoYo appears to merely make non-binding requests for streamers not to play other games. However, in reality, it coerces compliance by bullying and isolating streamers who do not follow these requests. Similar incidents have occurred in China. A streamer named Yue Fei once exposed communication records with miHoYo staff, where he was threatened that if he streamed content related to Wuthering Waves, miHoYo would revoke his access to the test server, preventing him from releasing videos about new characters in a timely manner. The most disgusting aspect of this entire situation is that miHoYo pretends to allow fair competition on the surface but uses underhanded tactics to suppress competitors behind the scenes. This behavior is even more despicable than openly prohibiting affiliated streamers from promoting competitors' content through agreements or payments. They aim to suppress rivals while avoiding public backlash, a practice that is truly shameful.

[@peacechan4500]

The hilarious part? These tactics is what the fans accuse Tencent doing. Kinda ironic that they do the same.

[@cat6th363]

Yue Fei incident was about preferential content and had a contract. He made his choice then tried to blame it on hoyo. Not a good example

[@_schrodingerscat4103]

Yue Fei did indeed have a contract with miHoYo, but it was solely about promoting new characters and did not include restrictions on other games. miHoYo privately used access to the test server as leverage to prevent him from streaming WuWa. This is why I say their actions are more egregious than openly restricting content through a contract.

[@cat6th363]

@_schrodingerscat4103 I remember the post on Reddit, it was during the HSR boothill release, he had a privilege over other CC's to play said character before release, and asked while screenshoting if he could make content for Wuwa. Hoyo employee said he'd lose the privilege, then he did it anyways. After he posted the chat, things turned around because the guy was actually not playing the game, making misleading guides. Then, guy apologized. Hoyo makes mistakes, but if you present bad examples shills will hang on them.

[@_schrodingerscat4103]

@@cat6th363 I am Chinese, so I am very clear about the entire situation. In the chat logs exposed by Yue Fei, the miHoYo employee actively asked whether he would create content for WuWa. After Yue Fei said he would, the employee stated that if he streamed WuWa, he would lose his test server privileges. This is what I mean when I say miHoYo is using tactics to control streamers. They use things like test server access or event participation privileges as leverage to threaten streamers, preventing them from streaming other games. Yue Fei leaking the chat logs with the company was also wrong, which is why he was criticized and apologized. However, miHoYo's control over streamers to suppress competition is also a fact, and this was overlooked by miHoYo fans at the time. Therefore, in the case of Nerumero, I used it as an example to show that this kind of behavior had happened before.

[@ThanhPhongNguyen-uj2ui]

Hell yeah, been waiting for Ryuuku's take on this drama, since he's the only CC that know Japanese

[@HuySatoou]

He is ? does he live in japan too ?

[@TheMercifulOne1]

​@@HuySatoouyeah, i wonder

[@stormgalaxypegasus]

​@@HuySatoou Ye

[@HyperDrive365]

@@HuySatoou he does live in JP too

[@ThanhPhongNguyen-uj2ui]

@@HuySatoou Yeah, he's basically a tour guide for Gacha Smack when Smack went to Japan

[@dazellon2354]

So much for Da Wei's crocodile tears and going "back to the roots". It also wouldn't surprise me if this CC is now going to get harassed by hoyo fanboys. Artists have been bullied for much less.

[@twistedfate62]

doesn't matter what Da Wei says, he is just a figurehead. He might genuinely want things to improve, but he doesn't have enough power to actually enact that himself so it just amounts to lip service in the end.

[@dokutah2480]

You know what their roots were? Even more predatory gacha like back in hi3 launch where to even get signature for a unit it would take upwards of 300 dollars or something

[@smalllittledot]

It would be interesting to see the POV from the JP side, what they think of Wuwa in general. Thank you and please keep it up Sensei

[@ywzgbf6873]

try check official WuWa JP trailer 2.0. saw some comments mentioned that lot of JP players dissappointed with the story at release and hope in 2.0 those who leave try the game again

[@napuzu]

As I know how shitty the game graphic is, JP players cares about lore and world building, me myself hate how Kuro made trash story both wuwa and pgr (until some chapter), wuwa skip button without summary is amazing for me.

[@RedJackSun-m8e]

@@napuzu they care more about story and lore than anybody else since I know most CC western creator never really care about story ( skip all the time if they stream any of those game) Most CCs in a Gacha space from what I seen in the western propectiv side dont have any creativity like cosplay or drawing skill.

[@arkcanon1282]

​@@ywzgbf6873nah this is not the majority lol The majority of JP Players are actually okay with 1.0, love 1.1, okay with 1.2, love 1.3 and 1.4. Their main problem and complaint is CN to JP Translation same as KR Players, both KR and JP Players are suffering from WW Translation so they opted to read the lore from Unofficial Dedicated Fan Translation.

[@FeveeThree]

​Worst opinion if I ever seen one, bro really said how shit the graphics are when it actually one of most visual appealing gacha games, no one thinks wuthering waves graphics are bad, also lore is good in this game I read a lot of it, story is average it gets better overtime ​@@napuzu

[@christiandelacruz6619]

Crazy how Hoyo is already showing their true colors BLATANTLY, yet ppl still defends this shi of a company

[@maymeoo21]

It's a cult atp..They worship Dawei like second coming of Jesus

[@huyle-ob8rg]

I mean, ppl still defending terrible AAA companies and terrible decisions in this year. Like, what do you expect from the ppl that defends death threats and literal criminal activities?

[@christiandelacruz6619]

@@huyle-ob8rg they are beyond my comprehension

[@Khn_2102]

​@@huyle-ob8rgThose kinds of people are the reason why we still got shitty games. Toxic Positivity

[@mrJones-ii7sh]

we like the story end game is bad in all the gachas. One is a chill mobile game the other is a sweaty button masher. Long story short evryone can enjoy genshin not evryone can just get good and play wuwa it will always be niche just like fighting games back in the day.

[@TrippleN]

No company should be able to force game exclusivity on a creator without a proper contract and with that contract the company should be PAYING for that exclusivity.

[@kizuki2650]

Welcome to hoyoverse

[@yunaX12]

After finishing the whole video Damn. I didn't know Hoyo slaves are real i know we meme on it for years but holy sht its real Feel sad for them😩

[@Honed-]

might just be bots... or actually brain dead, with 0 critical thinking what so ever.... then again they could just be a bunch of children.

[@ryuukusensei]

Timestamps done, let me know what you guys think of this situation in the comments!

[@fukurizeiden3022]

Appreciate your work, still watching your vid also and yeah it's really sad to hear

[@_pfor9216]

I'm Japanese, but my teacher's listening skills are perfect. I'm honestly surprised.

[@ShianCyan]

Thanks sensei, I appreciate it 👍

[@Khn_2102]

Thanks sensei

[@ryuukusensei]

@@_pfor9216 I'm used to listening to people like キャベツの人 so Nerumero is easy listening for me lol

[@poggersbks1e341]

This why I don't respect a game and it's devs when the devs themselves cry crocodile tears on stream to the things they've done and not man up and fix it

[@niniseconda5839]

Ive seen people talk about that a lot, but when did it happen? I don't remember seen that

[@edn01987]

@@niniseconda5839 5.0 announcement livestream near the end

[@Chestyfriend]

He had 4 years to buff Klee, restore her original walk animation and make her a signature weapon, but he did nothing. Every tear is an insult of 4 years.

[@nguyenquanghung2344]

@@niniseconda5839 just search dawei cry

[@KyHeartWill]

@@niniseconda5839 it's so funny. You should watch the livestream. He is crying on the stage and it didn't take 3 seconds, he changed his face into a smile.

[@nolahahaha]

Not surprised Hoyoverse is already shady with all this drama and plagiarism case

[@al4vv82]

Monopoly at it's finest

[@yololoyo7379]

That's why i don't think Chinese companies are communist anymore. They're literally practicing capitalism to the very core

[@Kioutia]

I’ve always known Hoyoverse operates as a predatory company, but this is going too far. My respect for them is diminishing with each passing day, and it’s starting to make me lose faith in their games altogether

[@kuvrut7747]

all corporations are predatory... full stop, run by profit crazed goons ...

[@dynastygirl2912]

Oh no, anyway *Does my HSR Daylies*

[@Canaria_Mary]

The main problem is probably respecting companies feeding on gambling game mechanics 🤣

[@mr.edelweiss]

​@@dynastygirl2912me who has been in constant "am I going to quit the game or not?" with hsr. story is boring(another genshin vn storytelling yappinator) it only peaked at Belobog 1.0, constant powercreeping units a month or so, some materials lock behind story(another genshin bs), the only thing sticking me in the game is just the fsn collab and will quit afterwards if it another slop, will stick longer if it's peak.

[@jhinmainin2k207]

​@@mr.edelweiss i was in your place back then when Firefly was released The only thing i like about HSR is the gameplay. Took me like a week or 2 to think about this But when i had to consider about the fact that it will take months, usually 1-2 months of farming and depend on your rng, for her/his gears/lv/skill just for 1 character ... and they might be powercreep in the next patch anyway ... I miss it sometimes, still, i can not find any motivation to come back at all.

[@icendia01]

This reminds me of something my japanese colleague once mentioned to me. He said in Japan there are commonly cases where employees will suddenly receive no work, no involvement in projects and straight up ignored by their other co-workers. This is an obvious sign by corpa to tell them to quit their job, so what this is essentially translates to is they should be 'taking the hint' and quit on their own accord. Though i do not follow Neromero, it seems that the long periods of being ignored is such a sign. I wish him the best in his future endeavours in Wuwa and other games.

[@ryuukusensei]

That no work to prompt someone to quit thing is absolutely true, btw.

[@beestek.94]

Oof. That's such a sh*tty work culture. If an employee did not receive any work but still employed by the company, do they still get paid?

[@aratabhist]

@@ryuukusensei that kinda sucks, that just means that most of the time we don't even know what we did wrong before being silently fired, is there like no laws/legislation that protects employee from such cases in Japan ? or is it just one of those tradition type of things over there ?

[@RedJackSun-m8e]

@@ryuukusensei did you ever work in japan or take some loans ?

[@RedJackSun-m8e]

@@beestek.94 yes they do but its a sign to quit quietly its like you dont exist in there space anymore and I think that is much more despair as you think If they think you are usless to them

[@towachan9860]

From China, as the one who played hoyo's game from Honkai Impact 3rd and deleted my hoyo account yesterday, the thing I learnt from this company is that - they don't know the another side of a game there are players. Or worse case, they know but don't care.

[@RazorNivekUltimate9000]

It is sad that you felt from this KZbinr false Information

[@memelordmaster5219]

​@@RazorNivekUltimate9000 Keep coping, dude 😂😂😂😂 Learn that your "precious" Hoyo isn't as "clean" as you thought it was

[@RazorNivekUltimate9000]

@memelordmaster5219 lol I m not the one who is coping ure the one who is coping

[@somepasserby3950]

​@@RazorNivekUltimate9000Since when does the OP mention ANY KZbinr?

[@桜坂シノ]

@@RazorNivekUltimate9000 bro, as a Chinese gamer, I can tell you it's all true

[@5ynT4x_Error]

It all made sense now. No wonder Hoyo never really cared about their community. We all know that they olny care about money. I've heard rumours about ZZZ Content Creator are not allowed to talk/play wuwa... Now it seems like the rumour does not feel far off. Also I agree with the vtuber, I like the game but I hate the devs.

[@eddieboston6540]

now very little research prove this comment wrong i see multiple ZZZ CC play wuwa no hoyoverse isn't worried about a game that makes less then thier new game. hoyoverse have 6 active games GGZ, HI3, Tears, GI, Star rail, ZZZ, and 5 more on the way for now kuro has 2 active games PGR and WUWA

[@PikachuPolice]

​@@eddieboston6540only in KR, CN and JP as their main market mostly

[@chelo136]

every single company only cares about money, any caring about a community is because it will give them money one way or another, you naive af if you think any company cares about anything esle than money , hoyo, blizzard, riot, kuro, etc will do anything that gets them more money

[@5ynT4x_Error]

@@chelo136 yea you're not wrong.

[@5ynT4x_Error]

@@eddieboston6540 I thought that the rumour was not that far off. Never said it was true.

[@maymeoo21]

Thankyou.I've wanted a vid that's deep dive into this matter and yours really explained well for non-jp like me

[@rendiwahid1266]

Not surprised, that's how their cc program work. Where did "tech otaku save the world" gone

[@Shhh_94]

When they made billions ;/

[@j4nk3n]

This reminds me of hollywood/music industry type shady practices honestly, "we would rather you didn't do that please" = "go against us and we will bury you" Also no official contract or money? But all the pressure and punishment? F that

[@theonewhoasked2391]

so they did went back to their roots and basically tried to sabotage competition AGAIN to the same company nonetheless lmao Da wei kept his promises? no way

[@smallpatrick6816]

Question but was there something hoyo did similar in the past? I don’t deny this disgusting behaviours tho

[@aratabhist]

@@smallpatrick6816 i don't think that they have done this type of things or rather they probably can't at least before genshin's popularity soars their stocks and all, but iirc there is a long bili2 post that pretty much tried to sabotage pgr's launch back in cn tho again its only a hearsay and without proof.

[@merfyn4838]

And Hoyoshills still gonna say WuWa players are playing the victims... this is straight up coercion! "Play Genshin or you wont have a career". I swear the true Genshin Killer where always there since the beggining it was the Genshin community all along.

[@yanuwwuu]

34:17

[@htet2002linn]

​@@yanuwwuu I mean they will still accuse wuwa anyway.

[@Zerexe]

He literally said in the video that it has nothing to do with the community because all the comments were supportive

[@masterpanda1360]

i'm not affiliating with any genshin community stuff but i have a question cause in this case there is nothing that was done by the community it's a developpers issue more like the genshin developers are killing genshin now in japan

[@merfyn4838]

@@yanuwwuu Yes ofc as a cc he is morally obligated to say that but the smoking gun is there.

[@ZaniWuwa]

I never knew I'll end my 2024 with knowing hoyo is on that level of pettiness 😭😭

[@takion_xy]

I am a viewer of Nerumero. He had seen a leak a long time ago (when Inazuma was not yet available), and was constantly attacked by antis for this, which is said to be the reason why he was treated poorly by the Hoyoverse. Masu. On the other hand, one of the first two youtubers in Japan who was granted early play rights was watching the leak on the same server at the same time as Nerumero. Hoyoverse wants streamers who are loyal to them, like dogs, and this is not fair.

[@ameliatheressa1911]

then stop taking dog food if u want to do whatever u want..u cant work at starbucks after working hour at mcdonald if the contract says so.. if u not happy then quit the fckng job..noobody forces u not to play other games..its ur own adult brain ffckng decision..why play vctim ffs

[@zacknothere9982]

@@ameliatheressa1911 mf missed the point

[@TheChoosenOne_CarlW]

​@@zacknothere9982Copyverse always take an L take bro.

[@ahmadmirzatappi8142]

as he always said, "there are those who believe he was right, and there are those who dont believe him....yet"

[@albenunez2665]

Mr.Tectone right?

[@Gheniel_]

TecMyBalls I dont like him nor hate him, but he is right

[@mr.edelweiss]

​@@Gheniel_I hate how he is always right on things he believes 120% on.

[@someguy30283]

"the hated one" Tectone. my favorite streamer lwk

[@mr.edelweiss]

@someguy30283 WRONG!! it's akkshually "the one who must not be named" "Baldimort" "T-word"

[@KyrieRuwachHosanna]

TBH, Genshin's official discord is one of the worst group of childish mods I've ever seen in my life. I'm pretty sure they are handled by people who hasn't even worked in a real job at all. They totally don't understand how to handle most cases, and their default is just to ban / mute depending on what they perceive to be. They will never check what is the full context of whatever happened, and it is purely dependent on what they manage to see, when they happened to be online at that point in time. Alot of them often jump to conclusions first and then stick with that conclusion before anything else. That was why a group of us came out to create our own discord server and community instead.

[@yuunarukami8622]

imo its also for wuwa official discord, im day 1 player and i have been in wuwa offi discord from start. when i say xiangli yao looks like 4* chara but his kit doesnt looks like 4* i get perma banned, lets be real the stuff that you say is happening everywhere. both should find better mods for their server

[@applepie1835]

It's true tho you have sht take​@@yuunarukami8622

[@kaka09876543210]

GFL2 official discord is a fresh air, in that the community is still degenerate and stay true to it core.

[@neegamind]

Discord mods are all the same. They feel that they are special because their name is blue lmao.

[@Creeperific]

Not just Genshin discord mod, it is ALL discord mods. They don't have real jobs that's why they are the moderators in certain discord channels. They don't learn the proper ways to handle dispute and only silence what they don't want to hear

[@I-MAC]

Hoyo wanted to brainwash players into not playing other games and I think it worked.

[@Condensed_rock]

I play hsr and wuwa, now wuwa is my main game

[@ZaniWuwa]

​@@Condensed_rock same

[@poggersbks1e341]

Deleted all hoyo games on my laptop and now it has wuwa and fighting games only

[@Cripple07]

Yeah for some, just look how hoyoshils will eat hoyo shts then say thank you.

[@al4vv82]

They making huge jump for massive gacha game is just step for brainwashing a whole a lot people

[@HyperDrive365]

its fucked up and used to want to be a CC for them but knowing this can happen to anyone is just disappointing, despite how huge your following is

[@zenaurum]

HI3rd and GGZ was one of the first mobile games I played ever. Seeing Hoyo slowly turn villainous throughout the last few years just feels bad man.

[@vincentzhuo5222]

I feel you bro, i spent a lot of money in Hi3, GI and HSR. But i think this is it for me. Gonna be HoyoFree on 2025.

[@zenaurum]

@vincentzhuo5222 I still played ZZZ earlier this year, but I got too busy. Compared to most other Hoyo games, its the one that I feel like is handled better. But the release of Miyabi is screaming "powercreep" problems in the future. Im Hoyofree now though, since I cant keep up with too many gacha games. Now its just wuwa, fgo and snowbreak.

[@enilarias2123]

The honkai transform hoyoverse into a Herschel

[@nyeffer9414]

@@zenaurumyou have good taste my friend, keep it up.

[@frozenser.2356]

​​@@zenaurum Powercreep? (R)over-powercreep i would say Seriously though, this is seriously ALARMING even though i didn't even touch ZZZ but seeing things in ZZZ happening already like that as PGR enjoyer, it's ludicrous

[@hikarii53]

Gosh I can only imagine how that CC feel. Creating content for like a year or so.... out of pure love for the game while being ignored and mistreated, that must feel very depressing.

[@rinzu3188]

reading comments here tells me that there are a lot of people that are new to the space. hoyo is like these ever since. baldy is saying this ever since but some people turns a blind eye because they think he is the villain 😂

[@LargeBanana]

And Baldemort is right once again.

[@chelo136]

because most people dont give a fk, if the game is good they will play it if not no, is that simple , nobady freaking cares what happens to some content creators, except parasocial people, or people that are intot his drama things. All company want money and will do wathever they can and are able to get it, who cares as long as is not ilegal like having slaves working (or even if they do ebcause apple, does, nike does, etc and people still buy) peole will just play what they like

[@TheuzS2_]

I really think its really cool that his community is welcoming him with open arms to make wuthering content, here in Brazil it's very different, when an official Hoyo creator tries to make wuwa content he gets attacked by bad comments...

[@dokutah2480]

I think that depends mostly, if the hoyo cc is always comparing wuwa to genshin instead of talking solely about wuwa i think they will get attacked, because from the wuwa fans i know we don't like getting compared to genshin, rather seen as just another game

[@0mfer]

Brasil mencionado 🎉

[@zxy-project]

I watch him sometimes, and yeah.. he is just love gacha game that have great characters and decent story. Japanese influencer never talk bad to the company/game. Its like their decent manner as a streamer/worker. If they dont like it, they just stop playing it. Majority of JP gamers are just love anime game after all. Their market (Japan) is ridicolusly big. If hoyoverse really give him a threat like that, it just idiot move from hoyoverse. it will destroy their image to Neru viewers.

[@RedJackSun-m8e]

what is the opposite of western ccs they are direct there hate towards company if they do wrong or not. Even complain all the time about the game even the game has no problem besides the flaw up and down of the game. Most Western CCs are currently I would say very drama baiter and I think with the time it will get worse. Either its come from outside or inside (trojaner) If you have a job and acting out of space sadly enough you will get fired.

[@boxnebula]

During the pandemic, everyone and their moms played genshin, it gave the devs a huuuuge godcomplex. Not only did they treat players and ccs like shxt, but they thought they could get away with getting cash with the minimum effort. Which they did for years. Today, the tables have turned immensely and i genuinely think they're barely learned anything.

[@weebz2977]

ghosting him for years, didn't invite him to any of the events and then show up few years later just to tell him that they don't want him to play wuwa. the fact that they did this to one of the biggest genshin cc from japan is insane. the people that still defending this company is insane..

[@ardee9337]

Hoyo getting exposed is such a fun thing to watch, Hoyo had the balls to treat one of if not their biggest CC in JP this way now of all times when WuWa is already gaining momemtum, WuWa is already being loved in KR, if they get into the JP market as well with 2.0 then Hoyo's monopoly and brainwashing armor would start to show bigger cracks

[@Male_Ficent]

Unfortunately, so long as they have the CN market in the palm of their hands I don't think they'll care that much about anything else.

[@broccoli5176]

Unfortunately, Kuro's ability to brainwash brainless kids is much stronger.

[@nidaduque5434]

El mercado chino también está apoyando al WuWA 😂 La existencia del WuWA está mostrando lo mal hecho que está genshin ​@@Male_Ficent

[@ywzgbf6873]

@@Male_Ficent in a sense that could be good things cuz that mean WuWa less beholden to CN playerbases

[@chelo136]

Beloves in KR lol not even close

[@dragopn1979]

Hoyo this year kicked all the Italian HSR CC and pushed the Genshin CC to make guide in 24h by the character release even if incomplete... Hoyo don't care about players

[@minamo-kr]

Hoyo only wants to deceive players into paying for it, but these deceived players are boasting about Hoyo's income, which is so absurd and ironic

[@saisis8984]

Wait can you elaborate on this even in Italian? Non seguo per niente la community italiana di Hoyoverse (a malapena seguo quella inglese) ma mi interessa sapere cos'è successo o se c'è qualche video a riguardo che lo spiega bene.

[@samlovespizzas7478]

Thx for the translation, I just want to give this person a warm hug.. I was watching his recent wuwa streams and thinking this guy is cool and funny, but knowing what he has gone through made me feel bad for him... Im glad his viewers are supporting him

[@blackwingBF]

I love when you use less swearing in your video, you were kinda aggressive with the latest video, happy to see you're back to normal.

[@ryuukusensei]

What can I say? I was annoyed.😂

[@徐榮-o1r]

Bro, you have no idea how popular the First Law is IN China😄. It's not just well-known within the gaming circle, it's also highly praised outside of it. For example, if you see some brain-dead comments in a community, don't hesitate. Just click on that person's profile, and you'll see elements of miHoYo. At that moment, you'll smile with relief🤣（The reputation of Genshin Impact players has long been so bad that approximately everyone is criticizing them，Regardless of what kind of players they are🤭）ps：It must be pointed out that this was already the case even before I entered the world of anime-style gaming.😉

[@Balto678]

It's kind of crazy how consistently Genshin sounds worse and worse every time i hear about the game. At the end of the day, he makes his living playing video games. His life is sweet no matter how much game devs ignore him or dont invite him to events.

[@abelingaw5070]

If I was Kuro, I'd sponsor this guy and allow him to sh*t talk GI in his contents.

[@NICSU667]

Hoping kuro can sponsor him

[@animecut4355]

@@abelingaw5070 He already got invinted by Kuro. His first sponsored stream will be on the same day we start 2.0. I bet after this, Japanese haters will also get new excuse to wreck his stream just like how they are trolling his comment section now but we also got good people there so I hope everything will be fine.

[@LargeBanana]

​@abelingaw5070 one of the requirement from Kuro when being in kuro sponsored stream is to not talk bad about the competitor within the time period. Tectone said this I iirc.

[@kantokuu]

@@abelingaw5070 He is confirmed getting his first sponsor in ver 2.0!(he twitted about it)

[@JanNi-gp6fw]

Looking back,I regret the time I wasted in Genshin now.

[@BlueBluez]

Even tho i don't agree with some of Sensei's takes on things, I 100% trust him with this cause he knows Japanese lol

[@abyssenjoyer]

Yeah and because it's against hoyoverse

[@memelordmaster5219]

​@@abyssenjoyer Cope. Unless you can do a better translation and interpretation

[@DomonkasshuSD]

​@@abyssenjoyer what meme lord said. Please upload your own translation

[@paxvesania2008]

Sensei, do check on Gigguk. I think he is being held captive by the Hoyoshills to only main Hoyo games.

[@Gheniel_]

I remember of Aman Mondal, shit was funny😂

[@Kramer8]

​@@Gheniel_ Where is he now? I missed him.

[@primadansaripudin9269]

​@@Kramer8 iirc he deleted his first essay, and wrote another essay on Garnt's 2nd WuWa video but more chill

[@pond9875]

Any attempt to save/check on Garnt will somewhat muddy the water between them (Trash taste and Mihoyo). So, we can't do anything about that. Mihoyo is somewhat an investor to them. Gonna have to let Garnt stay hostage.

[@pyronado4320]

​@@Gheniel_bro is famous 😂

[@gabbo4039]

I hope that Nerumero finds a way to continue his journey as a CC. Best of things for you too, Sensei.

[@bananamp3]

kuro's opportunity to sponsor this guy

[@ZaniWuwa]

Yes. Oh my god yes

[@Aegisu]

Considering the kind of CCs they already sponsor, yeah, this guy will fit perfectly.

[@antibspyu]

this is literally the perfect time to invite this guy to be a kuro creator (invitational period)

[@shinkazama8849]

Kuro already sponsored him

[@antibspyu]

@ where do ya get this info?

[@Nataninko]

Monthly hoyoverse drama is in play today I treat this as the filler arc before Rinascita

[@Steven-bf8gw]

Damn, i feel sorry for nerumero since lately I've been watching his livestream too

[@aanandsameer9338]

I personally think you would make a great bridge between the EN and JP sides of wuwa, and this is content you and probably you alone could dip your toes in with your ability to be very neutral. Would be great to hear out the JP side of gacha.

[@kelvin-uh7tf]

There are something to i want to correct . Nerumero is the biggest genshin. Content creator Actually bcause magurohead is come second .magurohead win in terms of subscribers because he huild his popularity before genshin release, mostly from shadowverse tcg games before he became genshin creator . so, not all of his subcriber is genshin player . Meanwhile nerumero build his channel from zero by playing genshin. In terms of popularity by genshin japanese player ;”: 1.Nerumero(streamer) 2.megurohead(character tips and tricks uploader) 3.mosurameso(streamer) one more thing, about the last thing that nerumero mention about he dont get early access when the other got it. it actually not quite right because only 2 person from hoyocreator are selected for the early access :megurohead and somen channel. the most likely reason is because they both are character tips uploader (they upload video about what kind of tools that suit a character or whether the character is worth to pull). and nerumero is live streamer same as mosurameso(3rd biggest genshin creator) who also doesnt get early access because he only do live streaming.

[@ryuukusensei]

That's completely fair, thank you for the clarification😄👍

[@nerospapa8814]

And the sacked their biggest content creator for their games? This sound bad PR aight.

[@kiana4237]

@@nerospapa8814 bro makes 2k a vid I don't think that's big bro

[@chelo136]

@@nerospapa8814 maybe ebcause he become a diva that think he is avobe everyone else as a CC

[@nerospapa8814]

@@kiana4237 who make 2k bro? Nerumero? His stream average is 100k viewers and thats big in japan for streaming 1 game.

[@sly7525]

日本語の遠回しな表現、言葉足らずな文脈、隠語やネットスラングを翻訳できる英語圏ストリーマーは貴重な存在です。私は日本人ですがねるめろ氏のことをよく知らなかったので、Ryuukuさんの丁寧な補足と共有に感謝します。

[@ryuukusensei]

ありがとうございます！　私のチャンネルには、もちろん自分の意見などを動画で投稿しますが、日本人の皆様の意見や感情を忠実に英語圏の皆様に伝えたいと思ってます。こう言う時とか、ゲームについての意見なども😁

[@Caesar-c9w]

Bro, imagine the devs being worse than the already infamous community...

[@Hemmy-ec8xp]

I mean... Like Company like their players. Look at r/GachaGaming they are removing Wuwa contents here and there Hoyoverse is so pathetic. Brainwashing company

[@Balbaneth]

So let me get this straight. Some random toxic person in his discord taddled on him about the leak channel on his discord. Regardless no company likes anyone that covers leaks peroid and due to his negligence of not getting rid of the channel. Got kicked out then ostracized I'm guessing because you don't trust someone covering leaks. Btw this has happened with a CC that covers kuro games on en, he got removed from pgr cause he made a mistake covering a leak or information he shouldn't have getting shadow banned or whatever so in general no company likes a leaker mistake, negligence etc. You will forever get remembered. At this point he should do other games regardless of what another handler says because they will never forget the leaks or the negligence of not removing the channel on the spot. Then pray another misstep doesn't happen in another game.

[@emann266]

It's just sad tbh

[@Balbaneth]

@emann266 it happens no matter what the company. In truth the person that taddled should have went to the mod or the guy himself to say bro you forgot the channel. But no we live in the world of toxicity and narratives.

[@wanchan-sm9ow]

この人スゴすぎる 日本語完璧に理解してる

[@ryuukusensei]

日本在住14年なので、これぐらいなら問題ない😁

[@Lexihides]

Definitely cover more Japanese-related content of these games. We'd (en players) love to know what's happening on the JP side of things ♡ ​@ryuukusensei

[@TomTan-k3e]

Salty hoyoshills crying in the comments is fascinating

[@MikeCastle166]

I can't believe some people are still defending even these kinds of actions. Disgusting community, disgusting company.

[@hisamatsuhiroyuki9710]

Stop it, don't contribute to this war, it's already been said to not turn this into Hoyo vs Kuro.

[@chelo136]

@@MikeCastle166 People dont give 2 single fks about this , 99% of players play the game they like and dont even wathc drama videos , like who teh fk cares about companys , they all want their money and use wathever emans they can to get it

[@mareizia]

Truly puzzle me when people defend two multi million company

[@52_Ronin]

​@@mareiziaHoyoverse is a multi billion company

[@SY-re9vu]

Now r/gachagaming is silent as hell about this issue 🤣🤣

[@fastedwarrior7353]

Ahahahahahah....I wonder why that is? Those guys are Hoyoshills though and though. The good news about that site is that its pure entertainment.

[@meteuteu]

I wish they will change their community name to r/hoyogaming... r/gachagaming is so misleading when their community page really hates wuwa 😅

[@yejiyej3369]

@@meteuteur/Hoyocult is better

[@johndebaun7125]

Why would they talk about this though? They dont even post all the gacha cc manufactured drama around

[@rkyrsc2]

@@fastedwarrior7353 u can start posting and the people who know will upvote it

[@lexdalan9033]

I won't be surprised if they're going to ban CCs from playing Arknights Endfield in the future. Like, have you seen that new game trailer weeks ago???

[@HazardTone]

They will play it in the first two weeks and praise it like crazy then disappear lol.

[@treytucker7404]

To be honest I was suprised at first then I remembered all those multi billion dollar corporations and how you can't really speak out against a company you either work for or contracted to work for. Not saying that Hoyo is in the right just saying that when any company loses money due to better competitors these are the practices they resort to.

[@someguy30283]

well those practices are full a bullshit

[@nightwalker3935]

it's ironically sad, I've been subscribed to Nerumero from the Sumeru era, I like him because every GI livestream he will focus on discussing 1 character, be it b4 or b5, he would brings explore & spiral abyss as if to prove that your build is good & understands how to use it, no matter which character u used there is no difference, all of them are good (which is good for f2p player too). Every time the spiral is reset he will also fully start the spiral abyss using all its characters which are divided into several teams as needed.

[@doubled99218]

once this news broke out, i knew i had to go to my #1 japanese resident.

[@NewBee-j4y]

Lmao thanks god you cover this issue . i was so curious about it

[@rz3264]

Insert starship trooper meme here "It's Afraid...." "IT'S AFRAID!!" 😂

[@lixya98]

I mean as expected from a company that likes to piss of their players for 4 years and will do anything but improve their game. History has been written about how bad this company was. And the fact that there some people that still defending this company it's just because they have spent all their money already to hoyo games a.k.a sunk cost fallacy

[@yamitara3289]

Genshin really dig grave for themselves

[@dovelay]

It seems like hoyo's cc program staff is utterly incompetent, very sad

[@MageGus]

Nothing weird coming from genshin hoyo staff, they have been always as scummy as their weapon banner 😂😂😂😂

[@kyaria9975]

Man, it was so sad that me as a Chinese have to be here to know what’s going on. No one dare to explain this shit because of the crazy hoyo fans, I can find a few but that is heavily biased.😢

[@saadahmad5775]

Hi, I just want to say as a day one hi3 player I was so excited for genshin because of their previous game and how they treat it. So I started playing genshin at launch at absolutely loved the game and its setting(still do) but as the time goes on many hi3 player I know, started dropping it saying the devs are not as responsive and passionate as hi3 ones and tbh I myself felt that but since I play these gacha games casually and do not spend any money on it so I never cared much. But I must say genshin devs are very arrogant and I don't like how they treat their players and game. All that being said I still play genshin and I know its hard to believe I do enjoy it cause I play it casually and I would love to see where the story goes. But what they did to this CC and many more is disgusting. like instead of making your game better you threaten CC to not play the rival. I have also played Wuwa when it came out, loved it but can't play it on laptop cause of technical reasons will continue the game when I get a decent hardware to play on. point of me writing this is guys don't protect these companies they are not your friends especially if they are gacha companies. Just because you like their games just don't. Great Video Ryuuku.

[@001-x1b]

Imagine enslaving yourself to a company that won't even pay you money only gems and most of the time it's not even enough gems to pull 1 unit lmao

[@syctk4123]

This isn't even about wuwa being sabatoged anymore I just genuinely feel bad for the guy yikes. I just don't think CC program is really good and I wish both wuwa or hoyoverse wouldn't do it because you will never know their genuine impressions. I don't mind the wuwa cc space that much as of right now because people who cover it give their genuine impression at least thats what it looks like to me. So even if you got a lot of dislikes in your other rinascita video I hope you don't stop giving your genuine opinion cuz I thought your criticisms were fair

[@Elainyan]

Ahh japanese situation of Brax... Probably even worse since there's no baldy to support him there

[@AIA222-yu5ml]

We all need a baldy in our life 😔

[@stefanrer1037]

Wdym, brax got the contract lol

[@Elainyan]

@@stefanrer1037 guess you missing out on full lore

[@stefanrer1037]

@@Elainyan what full lore? Brax admited it himself or you mean smth else?

[@Elainyan]

@@stefanrer1037 i can't really explain it in one reply but you should dig into brax vs atsu drama, he was being ignored / uninvited to genshin related events and many other things just because Atsu knew someone from hoyo staff. It's fixed now since everything got exposed but yea Brax admitted it himself

[@StreakBreaker42]

The arrogance of these Hoyo devs. He doesn't have a contract with them, and is doing it for free, and then they have the audacity to say he can't stream other games. I spit in their face.

[@sagnikmaulik]

All of this and yet nothing will change. No amount of controversy can keep people from supporting the company for its practises unless it is directly relevant to the players (aka less gacha currency).

[@b4fore_1682]

they will do anything but improve their game

[@Condensed_rock]

The only way theyre improving is powercreep

[@kri1ndawn440]

Why improve your game when you can ship a new game with those improvements in them. They don't want GI to be their only revenue source so it's worth having disgruntled players spread across multiple games than happy players in one. Besides players saying that one game is better than the other is good advertising

[@hikarii53]

ohmygod you're onto something. that sounds kinda ridiculous but not at the same time​ knowing how industries like this works. @@kri1ndawn440

[@Drillback523]

Nerumero : Doing streams and videos to promote genshin with pure passion and love and just want to be treated right Genshin : Who ask you to do all that ?

[@someguy30283]

Nerumero: does a WuWa livestream and is loving it Genshin: GET YO *** OUT OF THAT GAME. YOU WANT TO BE POPULAR? PLAY GENSHIN

[@mikku3810]

I hope Kuro keeps having fun making games and that their employees feel valued. that’s more than enough for a great company. Solon’s energy in the 2.0 livestream really showed they’re enjoying the process. I just hope they don’t follow Hoyo’s path. Kuro has so much potential, and I’m excited for whatever they create next. o7 P.S. Considering this is just the JP side, can’t help but wonder what’s happening in the KR and CN Hoyo scenes as well. Pretty interesting.

[@paku0521]

In my experience, this kind of issue can already be considered as a normal drama in Cn community, streamer cant do shits against them anyway.

[@poggersbks1e341]

They won't because on there other game pgr they still love that game

[@juggernautrain]

Dude, let me tell you, in China, miHoYo's publicity and distribution operations are very large, and they are willing to invest a lot of money to create the illusion of "false prosperity" for their community players, and this situation reached its peak in 2021-2023 years. In fact, Genshin Impact did plunder a lot of wealth in the era when there were no rival products to complete the monopoly of the community, but the development team did not give back the funds to the game and make better content of the game, and invested a lot of money in publicity, operation, buyout of anchors and various business orders, which is why when Wuwa appeared and shook the illusion of miHoYo's proud technical strength, those miHoYo loyal players will have great hostility and rejection towards other game community players. Because these Chinese miHoYo players live in a false prosperity that "only miHoYo is the greatest". They start to scan various communities, blaming and touting their own games as best they could. And when Wuwa is quickly harvesting a part of the player market with more modest quality and higher product qulity, these are the reasons why players are so crazy and trying to attack the Wuwa community, which happens every day in China lmao

[@mikku3810]

@@poggersbks1e341 Glad to hear that. I’ve heard Kuro gives the same level of attention for all of their titles. Hopefully, they stay committed to quality and avoid the pitfalls of greed, which sadly plague many industries, especially in entertainment and gaming.

[@mikku3810]

@@paku0521 true

[@narisa9162]

Nerumero, Yozakura, Mosurame, they're all the same hostaged by this mihoyo thing. I doubt this is what dawei really wants to happen.

[@Hallowedkongyan]

Lets remember one thing Hoyoverse have differents parts and Hoyo moderators of this type of things are awful, literally the worst thing of all Hoyo teams, the team that controls all the things related to streamers are the worst, in the spanish community one hoyo creator made a lot of thing and talked a lot with the moderators(and his was a moderator himself) to kick a lot of creators. One thing that I want to add, the team of things related to hoyo creators of spain and Latin American has been changed completely, that a lot of content creators that were in a black list they are no longer in that list

[@rosawillson7168]

Omg that's horrible I hope that the creators are all doing well and okay ♥️

[@Hallowedkongyan]

@@rosawillson7168 for the moment the most famous one of the spanish community got the permission to go to the content creator servers and he was one of them creators in the black list

[@netparse]

@@Hallowedkongyan putupau? I suspect that the reason is because Putupau was also streaming Wuthergin Waves content and maybe they now want to tie up him.

[@Hallowedkongyan]

@@netparse I dont think so, Putupau streamed WuWa since day one(and the reason that he was in the black list was about leaks) but was in the black list, but now that the team related with content creators has been changed now, maybe some thing has changed, all the teams related with content creators are always awful

[@omeganoelf.6173]

i'll be suggesting in the next wuwa survey for kuro to hire him as wuwa cc

[@GodSejeong]

Huh, people are NOW starting to see the true, scummy part of Hoyo? Think about it like this: If devs like Hotta and Kuro can pop out new open world games (Hotta is even crazier with how ToF performs revenue-wise), why can't the company with beyond tenfolds of revenues pop out more good content or be just as generous but instead recycles animations and barely putting QoLs like substat selector until recently? And no, nuclear reactor isn't a good answer. Philanthropy isn't either as smaller companies like Hypergryph can do it too while popping out Endfield, 3 seasons of anime and a premium game out of a single mobile game that earns much, much less than Genshin. They are simply just being greedy without returning a fraction of the investment made by the spenders in the game 🤭

[@0404tle]

Honestly, spending money on Hoyoverse does come with returns. After investing a significant amount, whenever I pointed out my dissatisfaction with their games in the community, I quickly got attacked by others. Isn't that a kind of return? In fact, the return was so "generous" that I’ve stopped playing their games. I’ll leave this "blessing" for others to enjoy instead. (Translated via Google, my English isn’t great, please forgive me!)

[@maymeoo21]

Yet hoyoshills boast about revenue where majority of them went into Dawei yachts 🤭

[@MArgusChopinGyver]

It's kinda disgusting hoyo do this kind of shit. Well, they shitty company anyway, didn't surprised but still disgusted by it 😅

[@shinkazama8849]

Finally someone who knows JP covered this drama

[@かるろら]

話題にしてくれてありがとう

[@ryuukusensei]

いえいえ、とんでもないです！😄

[@aanandsameer9338]

Ryuuku sensei I want you to consider the event when this was actually perpetuated by another JP cc, as nerumero didn't really know the reason of blacklisting. Also seeing that other CCs were being treated fine, maybe somebody was shit talking nerumero, but he never figured out who it was, and assumed it was just the devs. this also seems to be an atsu case but nerumero simply couldnot figure out who the "atsu" was, as I believe hoyo is smart enough to not abandon nerumero like that without actual pressure from other CCs. Maybe this is a bigger conspiracy than you, I or nerumero know.

[@rosawillson7168]

Hmmm maybe we could never know what's behind the curtain, but hey! That's just a theory

[@rahmamohamed-ke5gg]

@@rosawillson7168 A GAAAAAAME THEORYYYYY thx for watching ( LOL couldnt help myself )

[@nafola7617]

This explains why some KZbinrs that love breaking down the lore or Theories of Genshin/Zzz/Honkai star rail never tried breaking down the lore in Wuwa or Game Related content (promo for the new update)…