HP EliteDesk 705 G4 Mini PC Discrete Graphics Upgrade

[@heywhatisnext]

It was brought to my attention that the Unigine Heaven numbers weren't correct as the resolutions for each test differed. I reran the test at a 1600 x 900 resolution and graphics improvement was 44%. The discrete graphics test showed the FPS was 45.3 and the score was 1893. The built-in graphics showed the FPS was 31.3 and the score was 1311.

[@J12RQ]

you are a very underated youtuber, i hope your channel blows up later!

[@neonmis32]

What is the cord called you need for it 150w hp cord I want ro make sure I get one that fits in the power Port plz helpp

[@macvideomanlive]

@@neonmis32 If you're referring to the Power Cord that fits into the 150 Watt Power Supply, it's a three prong adapter or C13 connector.

[@Yandarval]

For anyone wanting to rush out and buy an Elitedesk G4+. Triple check with the seller. As not everyone has the MXM connector for the GPU on the motherboard.

[@heywhatisnext]

Thanks for watching. I appreciate your comment and information.

[@Yandarval]

@@heywhatisnext I have a stack of Elitedesks of various kinds. Later versions can even have 2.5GB NICs as their Flex IO card option. Sadly not for a G4. Flex IO is the name of the port you took out to install the GPU. You will want version one if you go looking. As v2 and v3 will not work for you.

[@leondeco4835]

35watt models havent

[@marcusgurley9495]

⁠@@Yandarvalthat might solve my problem! My 705 G4 DM won’t recognize the HDMI FLEX IO I installed

[@BrentRWong242]

​@@Yandarval Thanks for this info!

[@fredboldman6818]

Another important thing to consider is the top bezel cover. I bought a 705 g4 with the 2400GE with the goal of doing this. However, my unit came with a solid top. For optimum ventalation, you should try finding one of the mesh tops that are on the 65 or 90w models. The tops from the 800 g4s will work, but if it's not a g4, don't bother. It won't fit.

[@heywhatisnext]

Thanks for watching and providing this information.

[@Anonymous1337PenguinWin9xCIH]

i love the g1-g4 market on ebay for these things, one day ill eventually buy one for batocera or somthing for fun, thanks for the upload.

[@heywhatisnext]

Thanks for watching!

[@chilledbroccoli899]

dint know this was possible amazing video

[@heywhatisnext]

Thanks for watching. Glad you linked the video.

[@adrianh85]

I like this video, have a simular setup. Have a Dell 5070 extended with a AMD 6400LP. Surprised its runs so well, tested it with some gaming. Didnt expect a j5005 to be able to game with 10 wat tdp and only 8 pcie 2.0 lanes and 45 watts for the gpu.

[@heywhatisnext]

Thanks for watching. I hope to do a few more episodes on this PC.

[@Lostcontroller]

I just bought this little beauty last week. I love how easy it is to work on, unlike other OEM pc models. The only thing I would like to know is if this can be upgraded to a Ryzen 5 2600.

[@swemac]

Its not possible the bios does not support it

[@swemac]

however i removed the powermangement in bios and cpu boost even higher

[@heywhatisnext]

Thanks for watching!

[@swemac]

@@sphericalcow5258 i did not remove it just disabled it

[@clubx1000]

I wanted to see this for a long time

[@heywhatisnext]

Thanks for watching.

[@sandorcsonka1975]

DEAR SIR WHAT CAN I DO WHEN HP EliteDesk 705 G4I built it in the HP AMD Radeon RX560 4GB gives 3 long white beeps after 4 shorts red beeps when turned on,Thank you very much for your reply !!!!

[@heywhatisnext]

Thanks for watching. I found this article that might help. h30434.www3.hp.com/t5/Desktop-Operating-Systems-and-Recovery/3-Long-Beeps-4-Short-higher-pitched-repeated-5-times-then-PC/td-p/5609069

[@dctaken]

I have one doing nothing at the moment. I was debating on getting the gpu for it and install Bazzite OS and see how it does. Its currently running W11, with the help of rufus, just fine.

[@heywhatisnext]

Thanks for watching. Yeah, I should have clarified that there is a way to run Win11, but maybe another video for later :-)

[@NetrunnerAT]

@@dctaken BazziteOS OS Run better with AMD GPU's at the Moment. Reason is BazziteOS use Wayland and Nvidia GPU's are Not Well integrated. FSync make troubles. Create Micro stucks. Also Valves Gaming Mode isnt full supported. This means ... If you Look at Lenovo 1L PC's every AMD 75w is a good choice. 12V Rail isnt build to Support more Power. Also Intels A380 with A340 cooler Work in 1L Case. One thingiverse you can also Download a Case Mode for two Slot SFF GPU's.

[@Solar_and_Security]

Not sure if it's been said, I'm to lazy to read through the comments, but if you do this, make sure you buy the 150W power supply, the 65W isn't gonna cut it. Also.... getting Linux running on this particular machine was a HUGE pain. so if you don't know much about it, stick to windows.

[@heywhatisnext]

Thanks for watching and reiterating the need for the higher wattage power supply.

[@Messy_Marv]

How was Linux hard to install?

[@Solar_and_Security]

@@Messy_Marv Edit: Also.... getting Linux running on this particular machine was a HUGE pain. to > Also.... getting Linux running on this particular machine "with the graphics card" was a HUGE pain. Forgot for a second that people love to comment *Pounds on chest* ugg ugg me brain is bigger than yours "how was this hard, it wasn't for me, I can't understand....." Messy, did you even install Linux on this machine with the card installed? Thanks for contributing nothing of value to the conversation. Back under the bridge troll.

[@project0332]

Nice idea 💡 Congrats ! ... but...That integrated Vega11 is much powerful than the rx560 😂😂

[@aku2dimensional]

I didn't read the tile correctly and I thought I could get one for the HP Prodesk 600 G3 mini.

[@heywhatisnext]

Thanks for watching. That’s a bummer.

[@Yuriel1981]

I would like to see what this does to a Batocera machine running on one of these, could be a nice small dual boot Batocera gaming machine/Windows media center PC.

[@heywhatisnext]

Thanks for watching. Yes, I'd like to do a follow-up video related to retro gaming, but it isn't something I normally do. But this channel is the opportunity for me (and hopefully others) to try new things and learn along the way. Stay tuned.

[@michealdionne5456]

Runs well. My Bartop arcade is powered by an elitedesk 705 g4 with the ryzen 5 pro 2400ge

[@Yuriel1981]

@michealdionne5456 I would have guessed, I have done a couple of the G3s for family members. Their igpus are good even up to PS 2/xbox/GameCube emulation fairly well. I was more interested in what it could handle at the top. Like PS3 or XBox 360 emulation. I am currently running a ryzen 3100/3060ti setup for my Home Media Center/Batocera system. It handles most everything pretty well.

[@notloki3140]

Isn't rendering & playback etc CPU intensive in Davinci Resolve? GPU tends to only show it's worth in effects and what not, and even there you need specific modern infrastructure on the GPU to get anything out of it. The only reason why you would add this GPU is for light and retro gaming, that's pretty much it. So yea, for your use case scenario, it's probably worse since now you have higher power draw and less thermal headroom...

[@heywhatisnext]

Thank for watching and for commenting. Overall, it's still was a fun project and don't regret buying it. Plan to do some more gaming on it in the future.

[@notloki3140]

@@heywhatisnext It's definitely a good project, and if you either chose to use the GPU to its full potential down the line or sell it to someone that will, it's a win. I was just pointing out that perhaps it's good to either know if the upgrade will actually help your workflow or test it based on what the upgrade promises. I fell like this video does not do it justice since most of the tests were done based on a use that would not necessary benefit the adding of extra hardware. Which makes sense since you wouldn't have used it before like it had a GPU so why would you do it now. Your predefined predisposition of using the hardware failed to showcase the benefits of upgrading it making the video somewhat irrelevant. What I would do if I was you is to test the PC with and without a GPU for gaming that's pertinent to the time period of that GPU and make a follow up video. It is a lot of work of course, so feel free to ignore this advice.

[@macvideomanlive]

@@notloki3140​​⁠ I totally agree with you. I wouldn’t say the video is irrelevant as there are those laid back users who might use this solution the same as how I use it, but I do agree that further testing needs to be done to show it’s true advantage. Honestly, this channel is just for fun and gives me an excuse to try things that I wouldn’t do normally. I appreciate your comment and opinion!

[@EvilDeadGuy666]

Hi when it come's to using the pc what did you do about the HP Wolf Security and sure start... it can be a pain if someone is planning to use it for a home pc everyday use some light gaming

[@heywhatisnext]

As far as I know, I do not use these two solutions. This came refurbished with a basic Windows 10 installation. As far as everyday use, I have a part time job building online help and interactive training on this device and have had no issues running it as a daily driver. I don’t do much gaming, so I can’t speak directly to that (outside of some Sim City). I will follow up with you on what tool from HP I did install.

[@swemac]

I installed archlinux on mine, but still uses the vega 11 and it works great and quite snappy If you do don´t forget to install the vaapi for amdgpu. Thanks for the video.

[@heywhatisnext]

Thank you for watching, and the input on the Linux front. I’m thinking of running Mint on a separate partition.

[@swemac]

@@heywhatisnext just do it and install it with EFI bootloader / works best

[@downundergarage6968]

Vega 11 is quite fast by the integrated standard. 130W with a discrete.. ouch that is a LOT vs max 65 on IGPU and CPU combined. Also watch out for the 35 vs 65 w models. I think that the internal GPU will only work for the 65W models. Also the price of the card has now risen to $75 USD.. and to ship this to my country is another $75 USD.. lol..

[@heywhatisnext]

Thanks for watching.

[@hartomoygy]

I see Davinci Resolve, i click like

[@heywhatisnext]

Thank you for watching!

[@bikkiikun]

At the very least, it'll free up some RAM.

[@heywhatisnext]

Thanks for watching!

[@Gaming.Vids1]

Would have been useful to see an FPS test in graphics hungry games. I always thought you couldn't buy graphics cards for mini PCs like that, how did you find out it could be upgraded and how did you know what physical dimensions of card to look for? Is this the only card available for it or are there other choices? Where can we buy the cards other than Ebay?

[@heywhatisnext]

Thank for watching. I do plan a follow-up video exploring game. I'm not a big gamer, but I'm willing to give it a go. How did I find out? A video appeared in my KZbin feed about this topic. I had no clue this mini PC had that feature. Yes, eBay is the place to look. This appears to be a card only HP makes. Check out the links in my video description.

[@SinaFarhat]

Interesting, the built-in graphics are that good that a dedicated gpu wasn't a big upgrade. At least now, with the dedicated graphics, you are not taking up some of your ram.

[@heywhatisnext]

Yeah, I was surprised. With the discrete graphics, I noticed temps on the CPU were less during graphics testing I did off camera. This was to be expected. Still loved tinkering with this mini pc :-)

[@metamon2704]

well it's not a very good discrete graphics card so that is why!

[@Croga]

For about 2 years I ran a system based on the Ryzen 5 3400G as my main gaming system. It wasn't very good at first person shooters but World of Warcraft and Diablo3 ran pretty decently. Even on the 3840*1440 screen. IGPs have become pretty powerful over the past couple of years.

[@iNeedsCoffee]

Not cleaning that greenboard under the hdmi card hurt my feelings.

[@heywhatisnext]

Thanks for watching. I’ll do better next time 😁

[@Nightset]

hello I have a 705 G5 model will this modification work? G4 looks the same inside there is also a connector. But won't the bios block the start?

[@heywhatisnext]

Thanks for watching. According to HP’s website, it does appear that it should work: support.hp.com/us-en/document/c06461848.

[@Aaron_Dayton]

Can someone confirm which HP power supply you need to turn this on? I know the 65 watt standard one doesn't work, Just got a 120 watt in the mail, thinking I need to get the 150 watt is the hot ticket?... Thank you. 3 long beeps, 4 short beeps tells me its a power issue. Cheers! thank you

[@heywhatisnext]

Mine came with a 135 watt power supply and it worked fine (used in the video).

[@Aaron_Dayton]

@@heywhatisnext Thank you, I appreciate the response.

[@argniests5357]

did you upgrade the power supply? what wattage and model is your power supply? thanks

[@heywhatisnext]

Thanks for watching! Yes, I did upgrade it; however, mine came with a 135 watt power supply and the 150 watt power supply I purchased didn’t make much a difference.

[@heywhatisnext]

Thanks for watching! Yes, I did upgrade it; however, mine came with a 135 watt power supply and the 150 watt power supply I purchased didn’t make much a difference.

[@kovalus]

Wow, I don't know about external graphics card to HP G4 mini. I have two, and I am funboy this computer :). Thank you for movie.

[@heywhatisnext]

Thanks for your watching.

[@CharlesZ-yx1em]

Very interesting

[@heywhatisnext]

Thanks for watching.

[@callumbush1]

Probably better off with a EGPU connected via oculink.

[@heywhatisnext]

Thanks for watching, and thanks for the input.

[@amigo2x]

Does anyone have pinout of this connector ? Can I use it as additional pcie slot ?

[@heywhatisnext]

Thanks for watching. Yes, I’d like to know as well.

[@XaFFaX]

You can update this to Win 11. I have 3 of there units and just recently installed Win 11 on one of them without a problem. On another note - I have the 35W versions and I was having issues with 2 of them where the fan right from the start spins up to max RPM and stays like that forever. It becomes terribly noisy at that point. The only workaround is to remove CMOS battery, then fans behave normally then, but only until you have the device connected to power, after disconnection the problem returns. The problem is known and described over the internet as well. I was wondering - have you ever encountered this? Can you also post what RAM modules you have?

[@heywhatisnext]

Thanks for watching. I haven’t experienced the issue you mentioned regarding fan noise and high RPMs. Regarding RAM, I have a pair of Crucial 16 GB modules. Here’s the info: CT16G4SFRA32A.M16FR; 16GB DDR4-3200 SODIMM 1.2V CL22.

[@XaFFaX]

@@heywhatisnext Thank you! 👍

[@gfreeman17]

spróbuj wymienić wentylator i zaktualizować bios, czytałem o tym problemie. Mam też 705 g4 i nie miałem żadnych problemów z wentylatorem

[@XaFFaX]

@@gfreeman17 Dzięki za informację. O wentylatorach czytałem gdzieś na reddit i może faktycznie można spróbować, natomiast wydaje mi się to dziwne, bo po wyjęciu baterii CMOS wentylator działa normalnie (do czasu wyjęcia wtyczki zasilania z gniazdka). Jeżeli chodzi o BIOS to nadal to coś o dziwo ma wsparcie. Nie tak dawno wyszła nowa wersja, zaktualizowałem i nic to nie zmienia. Próbowałem też wgrać starsze wersje, bo można i też to nic nie zmienia. Zmiana konfiguracji sprzętowej (CPU, RAM, dyski itd) też bez zmian. Więc albo coś sprzętowe na płycie (albo problem z BIOSem), albo może wentylator. Długo nad tym siedziałem i nie udało mi się ustalić, jak bym znalazł ten wentylator i to by coś zmieniło to napiszę.

[@HamechiTV]

I have an HP EliteDesk 705 G4 SFF, can I play games on it? 8GB RAM, A10-9700 CPU

[@heywhatisnext]

Thanks for watching. I don’t have access to that PC, but I looked up the specs and benchmarks. Out of the box, I would say older titles might be okay, but nothing too graphics intensive. The CPU Geekbench numbers were 646 single-core and 1574 multi-core. For retro gaming, you should be fine up to PSP, and even then you might be stretching the limits. Anyone else want to chime in?

[@neonmis32]

What power watts 150 but what hp cord

[@heywhatisnext]

Thanks for watching. Are you referring to the power suppy or the cord to the power supply. I believe the power cord is a three prong adapter.

[@Tlakeuali]

Do you think this will work with Fedora/Ubuntu?

[@heywhatisnext]

Thanks for watching. I believe that it should work with the PC and graphics card. I do plan a follow-up video(s) looking into alternative OSes, attempting Windows 11, and retro gaming. Have a few more shows before I can get to the revisit.

[@jokejoker728]

i have a HP elitedesk 705 g3 mini, will it support the discrete graphic upgrade?

[@heywhatisnext]

Thanks for watching. Based on the HP device page, the graphic card I used is not supported. You can view the page here: support.hp.com/us-en/document/c05265587.

[@jokejoker728]

@@heywhatisnext ty for the reply. can I add eGPU to my 705 g3 mini? Does it support ryzen processor?

[@macvideomanlive]

@@jokejoker728 I tried to find someting on this and couldn't find an answer for you. It appears the USB-C isn't Thunderbolt, so if memory serves me correctly, I don't think this PC supports eGPU. Anyone else know?

[@jokejoker728]

@@macvideomanlive ty. Now I'm thinking what Os to use for entertainment and a bit gaming purpose. W11 tiny or Chrome Os?

[@macvideomanlive]

@@jokejoker728 You know, that's a good question. The Windows 11 Tiny my work. As far as Chrome OS, I'm not sure. You could look into a Linux distribution that suits your needs as well. This is something I will be looking into for a future episode.

[@pinikpikantv3555]

Would you suggest a G6 or G5 over this G4 if I copy the same upgrade?

[@heywhatisnext]

Thanks for watching. In short, I guess it depends on what you want to do. The HP Elitedesk 800 G6 has a recent Intel processor and a discrete Nvidia graphics card option. As I stated in the video, I create interactive, online training and online help systems. For me the G4 works fine, and two years ago the price was hard to beat.

[@skideric]

Are you using the Larger Power Supply?

[@heywhatisnext]

Thanks for watching. During the video, I used the 135 watt power supply that came with the unit. I purchased a 150 watt power supply off eBay. Honestly, the mini pc runs about the same; no noticeable additional power consumption.

[@sparky7635]

Did you exchange the standard power supply?

[@heywhatisnext]

Thanks for watching. I did upgrade to the 150 watt power supply even though I had the 135 watt unit. Honestly, I haven’t noticed a different in wattage between the two.

[@butterbagboy]

I’m wondering about emulation, my stock one tops out at ps1, will this run ps2 & Xbox or higher?

[@heywhatisnext]

Thanks for watching. Honestly, I don’t know but willing to try. If anyone else knows, let us know.

[@NetrunnerAT]

@@butterbagboy AMD RX560 isnt realy fast. Its 2,5 Times slower compare to a SteamDeck. This means ... If you Play emulated Games ... It Work fine. 30-60 FPS bottleneck is more the CPU If you use older Gen Intels.

[@DumbSkippy]

AMD 3400G B-450 , 16 Gb 3600 Ram, 1Tb M2 and an AMD 6400 HDMI2.1 4k 120hz, Noctua 9 cm Downdraft cooler. Max power usage is 121 Watts

[@heywhatisnext]

Thanks for watching!

[@afrowitchdr]

someone sure is proud of there pc specs to be spouting them off in a random videos comment like this lol

[@NetrunnerAT]

Lenovo M720Q is better. You can use a standard Graficcard. I use a M910X with i9-9900T and a RTX A2000 with 64gb RAM and 4TB NVME with BazziteOS and PS5 Controller.

[@heliosf9592]

And how much does it cost?

[@NetrunnerAT]

@@heliosf9592 m720q you get sometimes under 70€. A2000 around 200€. CPU is expansiv But i wana it 210€ But you can use also 50€ Gen 9 Intel in a range around 35-45w TPW. CPU ... you need add Microcode in BIOS.

[@heywhatisnext]

Thanks for watching. That does sound like a better unit.

[@NetrunnerAT]

@@heywhatisnext read how to make CPU Microcode Updates with Coffeetime. Also how to use a SPI Prommer to flash Firmware in circuits. After that you can use Gen 9 Intel on a Gen 7 or 8 mobo.

[@user-gx1dc8es2u]

Test with Batocera

[@heywhatisnext]

Thanks for watching. I’ll look into testing this.

[@juancarlosquinterona]

saludos. tengo una de esa

[@AvWijk85]

Not worth it if you don't live in the USA. The shipping is as much as the card itself..

[@heywhatisnext]

Thanks for watching.

[@shadow-fighter-666]

What's happened with storage 😢

[@heywhatisnext]

Thanks for watching. Are you talking storage in general or the storage in this Mini PC?

[@shadow-fighter-666]

@@heywhatisnext bro you remove ssd and install graphics card so where is storage install 😩

[@macvideomanlive]

Gotcha! Yes, I removed the 2.5” SATA drive, but there is a NVME drive slot which is where everything is stored now. While it’s much faster, losing the other drive sucks. I’ll place it in an external USB case at some point.

[@shadow-fighter-666]

@@macvideomanlive hay bro can we play gta v in it at 1080p normal settings please reply 🤔

[@macvideomanlive]

@@shadow-fighter-666 Thanks for the inquiry. Off-hand, I don't know. I currently don't have GTA 5, but I'm planning a follow-up video, and I'll make this one of the new benchmarks.

[@soulreaper11207]

Does MGPU work with this set up?

[@heywhatisnext]

Thanks for watching. Following the online instructions, I do not see the MGPU option under Gaming > Graphics > Advanced. I’m guessing this isn’t support with this setup.

[@NuRhodesia]

well, mine is windows 11 pro tho

[@heywhatisnext]

Thanks for watching. Nice!

[@-iIIiiiiiIiiiiIIIiiIi-]

I don't support HP (Hyper Proprietary) products.

[@heywhatisnext]

😂 Thanks for watching.

[@kolotxoz]

I have one of those elitedesk, how about your temps?

[@heywhatisnext]

Thanks for watching. I ran some tests using Geekbench 6 and Cinebench R23 to capture temps. For the CPU, the minimum was 54°C and max was 94°C. In Geekbench 6 graphics test, I saw 60°C. Hope this helps.

[@EntropySwordZ99]

Cant be worth the extra power and noise.

[@heywhatisnext]

Thanks for watching, and overall, I would agree with you. If you’re a gamer, I could see a benefit if you already have this EliteDesk PC.

[@berniesutton7277]

I got sick & tired of hearing "go ahead"after less thzan 5 minutes

[@heywhatisnext]

Thanks for watching what you could. Wow! I do say that more than I should. I appreciate your feedback.

[@berniesutton7277]

@heywhatisnext you're welcome. Apart from the repetitious phrase, it looked like a good video. That phrase is excessively over used by many Americans and it does get tiresome hearing it, especially as it is usually completely unnecessary in the context of the commentary. Yours has been the most intelligent response to my comment like this . I'll have another look at your videos

[@lonewolfsos]

Useless gimmick product

[@heywhatisnext]

Thanks for watching. By today’s standard, I can’t disagree.

[@lonewolfsos]

@@heywhatisnext Might be good as some sort of server with linux but there's cheaper and better alternatives. Great video though