HP Pro and Elite Desk 400, 600, 800 SFF G3-G5(6) key differences

A video breaking down the differences between the HP Prodesk 400 SFF G4, G5, G6, against the Prodesk 600 G3, G4, G5 and Elitedesk 800 G3, G4, G5. These are the models that can run 7th, 8th, or 9th generation Intel Core processors, and can be identified with the black and silver case.
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Chapters
0:00 Intro
1:34 Prodesk 400 SFF
4:08 Prodesk 600 SFF
6:46 Elitedesk 800 SFF
9:42 Final Thoughts / Overall Pick
10:49 Closing / word

[@trentinrodriguez4620]

Really appreciated this video, was confused what the differences between the models were, now I understand. Thanks for this , spot on 🎉

[@lowlyroblock3097]

This is the most helpful video I’ve seen so far comparing the entire lineup, still puzzled to find a similar video for the dell side Zig!

[@ntgm20]

Thanks! I dove into the specs on the Dell ones like the 7010 and 9020's last year when I bought a few used. I didn't end up liking them as much as the HPs, so I've stuck with these for now.

[@lowlyroblock3097]

@@ntgm20 very much agree on the preference towards HP, the pro/elite desk models with the black and silver design are my favourite of the corporate target devices and to me a very clean take on design. This video also helped a lot in understanding the naming conventions of hp hope to maybe see the mini series as those are about as adorable as the little pcs get Great content!

[@maxcarter5922]

Great video, thanks for spelling it all out! Bought a elitedesk 800 g4 a little bit blindly, needed the two 3.5 bays for a NAS/jellyfin server. It works great with the UHD 630! Great transcoding capabilities.

[@pingtime]

Glad that you reviewing the SFF variant, since STH already reviewing Tiny Mini Micro, and many other youtuber review the standard "MT" tower. Also those overview table is to the point and easy to understand, and maybe you can make each line alternate color so it's easier to identify. Great job as usual!

[@ntgm20]

Thanks! I really have liked the SFF for general computing. The mini's are too loud for me, though these do sound like jet engines when worked hard. I hadn't thought about alternating colors, not a bad idea. Thank you again!

[@pingtime]

@@ntgm20 I still have HP 800 G1 SFF, already maxed out with 4790 and 32GB of RAM, and also put GTX 1650 LP and NVMe adapter on bottom slot. performance is quite good, and like you said, the fan is pretty noisy so I swapped it out with my spare deepcool PWM fan. Now that system is decommissioned as living room PC and serve as Router. Feels like SFF is like an step child by PC community despite the prefect expansion capability despite the tight space. (PS. I want to see you put the more modern SFF like the G4 machine with Quadro RTX A2000 and see how it's perform :D )

[@ntgm20]

Adding a RTX A2000 would be really cool, but I don't know if I would have the return on investment. If only I was a gamer... For the fans, I'm going to look and see how replacing the CPU fan will help any. I did it with an i7-6700 in a G2 SFF, and it was very impressive, especially at idle.

[@pingtime]

@@ntgm20 RTX A2000 is amazing for home server, you can load multiple 4K transcoding at the same time for Plex/Jellyfin server and also can run AI face recognition in Nextcloud photo gallery (just like google photo), especially for the 12GB variant, and it's quite an space saving and power efficient too (75W at max load), so you can put it on 2U server or in one of SFF system as multimedia server, other alternative if you feel challenged enough (and for saving several bucks) will be Tesla T4 and it's derivative, both T4 and RTX A2000 is quite cheap nowadays in used market, even in 3rd world country where I live!

[@lanreoloyin4914]

Great video. Very educative . Thanks. I love the g5 800 series.

[@CrownedWarriorBand]

I bought an EliteDesk 800 G4 and it is working beautifully.

[@J.A.Z-TheMortal]

Great video. Please make a follow up video about the Mini series as it it is incredibly confusing. Prodesk vs Elite Desk...Then series 700 versus 800 and the the generations! I don't understand how Hp would think this naming schemes make any sense lol. Anyways thanks for the video. Subbed!

[@yxwong8082]

Thank you for the detailed comparison!

[@hichamhsr6350]

Been confused before this video, glad you made this vid! thanks

[@ntgm20]

Thanks for your feedback. Glad it helped!

[@AntiqueKeeper]

Gotta thank you bro, I purchased a Pro 600 G5 and upon watching your video had a hunch I needed a bigger size for an RTX A2000 so grabbed a Elite 800 G5 and it ought to be perfect, arriving in a couple of days and I can't wait!

[@ntgm20]

Glad it helped. I hope it does fit okay. Let us know either way!

[@philscomputerlab]

Great video! I'm a big fan and user of old OEM machines. Had various machines, 8200, OptiPlex, Z440 and it's time to upgrade to something more modern. I went with the EliteDesk 800 G4 with an i5-8500 because it has more slots, more ports and less crammed inside. The differences are in the detail and you did a great job outlining them! Very important to know is that with the 8th series, the i5 now has 6 Cores, so it's a big upgrade over a 7th gen i5, so I would aim to get a 8th gen intel at the very least. I'm not sure if 9th gen is worth the premium yet...

[@ntgm20]

I've been a fan of the Elitedesk 800 SFF since finding the G1. Great as a used OEM. Agreed I don't see the great draw of the 9th gen over 8th, but either is a great leap in front of the 6/7th gens.

[@InJJWeTrust0121]

@@ntgm20 6 cores instead of 4, yes, but no multithreading so just 6 threads instead of 8 on previous quad core chips. That said, you can upgrade that to the 8700 for 6 core 12 threads for just a bit extra, so that's the better price/performance upgrade :)

[@Sgt.Lincoln_Osiris]

These HP Pro/Elitedesks with Intel 8th gen processors can be build into a budget triple-A gaming PC with the addition of low profile RX 6400 or RTX A2000.

[@matthewbennett]

I think a video on the tiny ones would get a lot of hits, because of ServeTheHome's Project TinyMini Micro. I also think the SFF is way more useful. Thank you for this video!

[@ntgm20]

Thanks! I started looking into it this morning. As I only have a few 800 mini's, there would be more data presented vs pictures, but it could go faster too.

[@BAD_CONSUMER]

thanks for the comparison tables

[@john2knj]

Very useful video, thanks for making it!

[@ntgm20]

Thank you!

[@BangBangBang.]

Thank you for making this video because I keep getting confused by the models and thank you for mentioning how some of these are upgradable with how available barebones kits are on eBay for $40 for a chassis, CPU fan, hard disk caddy and no power adapter. This is a better route for me because $80 for an i7 CPU, the 65w power adapter then dealing with a few of these systems I've got spare RAM and M.2's which I kinda stressed about realizing I'd have leftovers but I plan on doing multiple builds for projects. My HP Elitedesk 800 G3 with 16GB of RAM and a cheap M.2 is a perfect Linux desktop for me. I got tired of SBCs like RPIs because of the CPU/upgrade/availability limitations. I'm thinking a Prodesk for a backup/Zoneminder server and another maxed out for a virtualization server to host a VPN, remote desktop, home automation, testing, etc. type stuff

[@joeking5211]

Great vid, only spotted after getting the EliteDesk G4 800 i7 8700, and just waiting delivery of a EliteDesk G5 800 i9 9900. Was going to do the usual 'build one up' and spotted these, they really are a great unit, such a well thought out frame assy, no screwdriver needed for anything, well, just a small one to crimp up the NMVe sticks, but it seems your prices in the US are almost give away, a bit more pricey here, but still well worth it. Keep up the good work. My only worry is 'spares', the power supply especially.

[@ntgm20]

Thanks! They are very interesting designs for sure, after using custom builds for a long time. I think you will still be able to find spare power supplies that are the most common configuration.

[@marcopn1174]

Thanks for the video!

[@LowcastleTech]

They are up to the G9 now... it's ok I'm only 7 generations behind 🙂. Awesome video, Zig!

[@XeonKnights]

Thank you very much for the information; HP's official documentation is a little all over the place and not really well compiled. Been shopping for a new NAS for a while now, just made a purchase of a 800 G3 SFF for $70 in total as my new NAS(2 bay is good enough for me, for now), after watching your video and the decision of G3 rather than G4 saved me about $50.

[@ntgm20]

Thank you so much!

[@JimWattsHereNow]

I always recommend ex lease HP Elitedesks to people. My lad bought a Elitedesk 800 g3, and have just got an 500w power supply. As hp did a 240w and 500w option. He wants to run a better graphics card. Great comparison video.

[@ntgm20]

Thanks! The Elitedesk 800 G4 tower I have came with the 240w power supply, and I've been looking for a well priced 500w to go in. I have an i7-8700k that I want to see how well that pairs with it and CPU workloads, and if I can get it as quiet as my Dell XPS was.

[@JimWattsHereNow]

@@ntgm20 HP did a version of the tower with an from the Tech Specs: " NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 8 GB FH PCIe x16 (requires 500 W chassis and 500 W PSU and will be available after launch)" I did some searching and found a thread with this part number : "For reference, here is the partnumber to the PSU: Partnumber 913290-001 Description GNRC, PSU 500W, 90% EFF,800 TWR" , Also found a local auction wite with this part number for the 500w supply: 901759-003. We havn't fitted it planning to do in the weekend.

[@daleclark3138]

Ordered an Elite desk 800 G4 with i5 8500, 32gb RAM and 512gb SSD with Windows 10 Pro for $177 a couple of days ago off Amazon. Plenty good for non gaming tasks and a nice form factor. Good overview of the three HP models.

[@ntgm20]

That sounds like a pretty decent deal all put together. Thanks!

[@leeyo5494]

​@@ntgm20 hi i watched your vids and i got the 400 g6 sff, and also a mini, but i cant get 4k 60 option resolution to my 4k tv from the display port with a hdmi adapter, could you tell me have you ever conected a tv in 4k 60, if so how?? thanks

[@blencraft2]

Hi, could you give me the PC link please?

[@DeneMcDonald]

This video saved me getting scammed. Was looking at a Pro Desk G4 i5 8th series online and it was a good price. I was able to see by your detailed photos of the back that it was actually a G3 7th series and worth a lot less than what they priced it at. Thank you!

[@ntgm20]

I'm so glad that it helped! I've seen listings like that, and have myself not understood the differences that sellers may not disclose or maybe not know themselves.

[@Jones5121]

i really like these computers.. from their small size so extensive expansion to the (IMO) best color scheme, silver n black

[@ntgm20]

I honestly think all the HP business line since they went to this modelling scheme look a lot better than their older ones.

[@Reza1984_]

Thanks for the vid, did you measure the power consumption of these? Idle and under load

[@ntgm20]

Thanks. No, I've not measured them all. There is some difference between what you get too. I had three 800 G1's and they differed by 5 to 10 watts from idle to maxed. I think my 800 G4 pulls just over 10 at idle, but the 600 G4 I used pulled only 4 watts. That is crazy and something I've not been able to find even in some of the mini PCs.

[@cowantom]

Really good video - really helpful and clear. I have had a great wee Prodesk 400 g4 SFF, but unfortunately the motherboard has gone. Before I buy like for like, does any other 400/600 fit the same case?

[@ntgm20]

Thanks! The 400 motherboard from a G5 or G6 may fit, I can't remember but I think the rear I/O is the same. A 600 wouldn't line up on the front with it's extra ports, not sure about the rear or internal mounting points.

[@cowantom]

@@ntgm20 many thanks for replying, really appreciated. I had an inkling that the 600 might be a stretch, but the 400 g5 or g6 gives me the m.2 option that I didn’t have (although I could have gone down the PCIE card to be fair), so might be worth a punt. 👍

[@MaximumOutput]

The G3 has only three (3) SATA ports, thank you for your video.

[@ntgm20]

I'm assuming you mean the 800 G3. I went back and looked, HP does list 4. Since making the video I've purchased 3 800 G3 SFF machines, and they only have 3, but have the spots for a 4th one. Maybe it was a special order thing and then the MB could have had all four connectors. Thanks for pointing it out.

[@FalconWing1813]

Great Video , how safe would it be to run Win 11 on these since they dont meet the requirements? Every thing still run good ? Wanted to set up one of these for my son but would prefer Window 11 so it would last a while. Thanks !

[@ntgm20]

Thanks! Any running the 8th gen Intel Core processors are supported by and run Windows 11 without issue. For the 7th and 6th gen, it is not supported but I've read good results running with 4 cores at least.

[@kolotxoz]

Zig, and could be awsome a video with the mini form factor

[@grenvillephillips6998]

Very tempting!

[@ntgm20]

Thanks. Which one?

[@tankediatriba]

Just bought a 700 series for home office and I think it was a great purchase.

[@ntgm20]

Very cool. What processor is it running? From what I've seen the 700's are running AMD processors, but I know little to nothing about them.

[@sprtwlf9314]

Excellent video

[@ntgm20]

Thank you very much!

[@mokhesengramaisa8202]

thanks because I understand now

[@user-tx5gq2ti2b]

This a fantastic video. since the 600 sff g3 MB has a LGA1151 Chipset can I upgrade to a 9th Gen CPU?

[@ntgm20]

Thanks! Unfortunately no. The chipset to run the 8th & 9th gen processors are different from 6th & 7th gen. HP also doesn't support some things that would be doable with BIOS updates. That doesn't really fit their business model.

[@bestsoftwaresolution]

Very helpful

[@ntgm20]

Glad to hear that!

[@JoseGutierrez-qd3xj]

Thank you for the video, can you do a video on HP's SFF using the AMD cpu's?

[@ntgm20]

Thanks. I hand not planned on it, but I might could dig up some information. No promises though, I have a lot of Mini PCs to get through and maybe the HP minis as well. Still could be useful after that though.

[@dt1133]

i bought one with the ssd included for 45usd. great machine.

[@ntgm20]

Very nice! It is great to find deals like that.

[@leeyo5494]

hi i watched your vids and i got the 400 g6 sff, and also a mini, but i cant get 4k 60 option resolution to my 4k tv from the display port with a hdmi adapter, could you tell me have you ever conected a tv in 4k 60, if so how?? thanks

[@ntgm20]

I don't know that I have. I think it is rated for 4k 30 fps.

[@unknownsauce3768]

Great video. I needed exactly this to find a SFF that woukd hold 3 ssds. (Windows OS, Lunux OS, storage. I hate dual booting ia grub). I wish the Tiny / USFF pcs coukd fit 3 drives :-)

[@ntgm20]

Thanks!

[@grocerylist]

Would you have approximate dimensions of the Elitedesk 800 Gx? I'm looking at a G6 with a i7-10700 to replace on older NUC with a i5-6200. I'm also curious how these Elitedesks are with cooling and if they're fairly quiet?

[@ntgm20]

Hello! The approximate dimensions on the 800 G4 SFF I have is 13 inches wide, 12 inches deep, and 4 inches tall. The tower is 6 inches wide 14.5 inches deep and 15 inches tall. That is of course with the SFF model laying down and the tower standing up. Is the 800 G6 you are looking at a SFF or tower? As for how quiet they are depends on the fans and the workload. With no GPU, there are two fans, one in the power supply and the other on the CPU cooler. Unless working it hard (for me that was rendering video normally) the fans can be very quiet. On a 800 G2 I replaced the CPU fan with a Noctua NF-R8 redux-1800 PWM one and that really quieted it down at idle.

[@jrkgroeneveld]

It seems the prodesk 600g4 and g5 also have pcie x4 slot, are they functioning? In the comparison chart, it says they don't have these slots

[@ntgm20]

Wow, that is a good catch. The Prodesk SFF G4 and G5 do have a x4 slot. I don't know why I'd put 0. I think the aliens have made edits that I wasn't aware of.

[@LoyteKing]

Hi. Would you source and ship one of these used computers to someone outside of the US? And how much would you charge?

[@ntgm20]

Sorry, when I will either sell or donate these locally, as we have a lot of individuals around here that can also use the help.

[@omerback007]

I have an 800 G3 SFF. The only problem I face with these machines is even though they have a full sized PCIe slot, the slot itself is limited to 35W max output which significantly decreases the range of GPUs i can use on the machine. In addition, The power supply is limited to 180W supply which again makes it difficult to put a power intensive GPU on the run. For the moment the only 2 GPU's that run on these SFF machines are the GT 1030 and the GT 730 2GB variant. Other than these 2 issues the PC in itself is a really good machine for regular use.

[@ntgm20]

Thanks for pointing that out. I can't recall if I saw that about only 35W max on the PCIe x16 slot, but in reality as an office PC and not a gamer or workstation it isn't that surprising.

[@radger6392]

Such a shame apple just uses usb type c 2.0 on the I phone 15 whereas the prodesk 600 that came out 6 years ago uses usb type c 3.1 gen 1

[@ntgm20]

I didn't realize they were going to do that when they switched over. Guess everyone transfers things over a wireless connection.

[@sultansaeed7136]

They did it because they can. If Iphone 16 come with box only no phone inside Apple fans would still buy it and say this is unprecedented.

[@davel202]

They use USB2 because USB3 can’t do live serial natively. The lightning port is a debugging and jtag port too, even though normal users don’t have the custom software and hardware to utilize it. Look up Apple Kanzi Cable.

[@beckywilsontx]

I recently picked up a HP EliteDesk 800 G4 Sff. 32GB Ram, i7-8700 CPU. I would like to upgrade the power supply and the GPU. I am thinking of putting a rx 6400 low profile in it, but I am not sure what power supply would fit. Any suggestions?

[@ntgm20]

Very nice. I've had to piece my 800 G4 SFF together. As for a power supply, I wonder if any of the flex power supplies would fit. I don't have any currently to try.

[@keithwalden7718]

Nice video thanks :) Going to try to buy a 600 G4 bare maybe one with os in, have 4 earlier HP SFF .. plain core2, (2) Core2quads and a Core I5-3470 am on now. Am still hazy on getting OS and files from hard drive to new one. Want ssd drives for any new computer and would like to have win 11 compatibility though I will likely try by buying a barebones with win 11. Am not unhappy with win10. I have never had a problem with an older system I have bought online.

[@ntgm20]

Very cool! I hope you have found a good deal. I still operate computers with Windows 10 and 11. Both have their quirks, but overall with some of the new things I am bias to Window 11 now.

[@TribbleBot]

The slimline slot in the 800 G3 SFF isn't tall enough to accept the slimline Blu-ray drive out of an 800 G1 SFF. That was a shame since my G3 is our Plex server and it would have been nice to rip Blu-rays directly on it.

[@ntgm20]

That is a bummer. Is it the drive height or the front bezel? Those can be removed, and I put a HP Blu-ray drive in my XPS machine and swapped the fronts to make it fit.

[@TribbleBot]

@@ntgm20 It's actually both. I had both bezels off and they don't interchange.

[@MendenLama]

I am watching this video on a HP ProDesk 600 G3 with i5/6500 I got at a cheap price from Ebay. I think these HP machines are still good for most needs if you're not into gaming.

[@ntgm20]

Very nice! That is my thought too.

[@capostrength3908]

Is it laggy? I’m thinking about using it for light gaming

[@ntgm20]

@@capostrength3908 The issue with these machines and gaming is going to be GPU related, at least for most games. If the Intel internal GPU is okay in game reviews for that title, then these would be okay.

[@capostrength3908]

@@ntgm20 yeah good thing about these machines is that they are extremely versatile and upgradable. From what I read, the gpu can be swapped out and the motherboard can handle it.

[@MendenLama]

@@capostrength3908 Another thing to be considered is the small case. A beefy graphics card would not fit. And the integrated Intel HD530 or the like is OK for office work and for Video streaming upto 1080p. Certainly not good enough for gaming in higher resolutions. Simple solitaire games and Super Tux Cart we're fine for me.

[@arturkruszyna4741]

Would it be possible in HP EliteDesk/ProDesk to plug a 4 port NIC with a low profile into the PCIe port? I would like to install Opnsense on this. Thank you

[@ntgm20]

Yes, it is possible. You just have to match the interface to what is available in that model. There are some x1 cards that can do two Gbps ports, but for a four port card you are probably looking at needing at least a x4 slot. If you go with the Elite Desk you could have multiple cards in there too. My first install of pfsense was on a Elite Desk 800 G2 with a second NIC.

[@arturkruszyna4741]

@@ntgm20 Thank you for your help. Do you know if any of these SFF devices have a built-in card based on the Intel chipset? In the HP documentation, I checked that there are such models, but which models, because all the ones I saw were on Realtek

[@ntgm20]

@@arturkruszyna4741 It is possible. I don't recall on all of them, but I'm on my 800 G4 right now, and it is running a Intel I219-LM.

[@MrTrazz09]

now i know the elite desk are wider than the prodesk, i have not seen them side by side since, until this video...i own the Prodesk 600 G5 running i5 9500, with a built in dedicated Nvidia RTX T1000 8GB GPU, is it plug and play if we are goin to upgrade lets say the Prodesk 600 G5 to i7 or i9?

[@ntgm20]

Sounds good. If you want to update the processor, I'd go with an i7.

[@poleszko]

What is the cheapest HP mini computer with usbc DP Alt Mode, even better with 15W power delivery? I think thunderbolt would be pretty cool? Is the hard-to-reach and expensive additional board with a connector the only solution?

[@ntgm20]

I don't know about the cheapest, that is always up to what you find. From what I've seen it looks like for the 800 minis in G4 or G5 are able to have the optional USB-C on the back with DP Alt, or Thunderbolt, but the specs list those separate. The G4 and G5 list the front USB-C as 10 Gbps and charging, but don't list if 10 or 15W specifically.

[@ernestgalvan9037]

@@ntgm20…do you have the parts number for the Thunderbolt I/O board? I haven’t found that number (yet). BTW, I really like this series of videos.

[@ntgm20]

Thanks! The optional USB-C board for the back PNs are L07094-001& L25753-001 I believe, if a eBay listing I saw has it right. That is for the USB 3.1 Gen 2 card.

[@ernestgalvan9037]

@@ntgm20…thnx, used your info, and ordered one off eBay, works a treat on my EliteDesks 800’s.

[@dawildbear]

Any chance anyone knows if the 600 allows for bifurcation of the PCIe x16 slot?

[@ntgm20]

I don't know for certain, but don't remember seeing anything about it in the BIOS. That said, I have HP Z4's and those do mention bifurcation in the BIOS. That is what leads me to believe it is no, but I don't have a definitive answer.

[@davel202]

Thanks.

[@confuseano]

i got a used prodesk g5 sff with i7 8700 in 2020. forced it to use a gtx 1060 with a riser and additional psu. few months after the system crashed and won't enter windows. luckily, it was still in warranty. they said the cpu got faulty. yeah, that's the first time i hear such a cpu fault. it's working but it always got stuck in os startup. in windows or linux.

[@ntgm20]

Very weird. CPUs can go bad, as can any component. Are you saying that even after they fixed the computer it still hangs?

[@confuseano]

@@ntgm20 no. They said the cpu was replaced. No problems so far. And i never use the 1060 with it again. Fyi,the gpu was a used one too. And sometimes it crashes itself. I did install a new gpu. But, it only uses pcie power.

[@CeliacManiac]

Anybody know how large HDD are supported? Would 16tb be problematic? Thanks

[@ntgm20]

Not entirely certain, but I've had luck putting in 6 and 8 TB drives.

[@rafageist]

I have an HP ProDesk 600 G5 SFF i7 9th gen. According to Linux dmidecode command, this PC supports up to 64GB RAM, however several websites say that it supports up to 128GB. I'm really not sure if it supports up to 64GB or 128GB. Do you know or have any way of knowing this?

[@ntgm20]

According to HP it should support 128GB of RAM. I don't have a 32GB stick of RAM to test that out though.

[@BandanazX]

I think the reason that the stated max RAM capacity is wrong is because 32GB DDR4 sticks didn't yet exist when the product was launched. But the 8th-11th gen CPUs support 128GB RAM. You might need to update the BIOS too.

[@eddezz]

Ordered a 800 G3 with a i5 7500 yesterday to use as a NAS a bit more expensive where i live as it cost me a total of 135 Euro with shipping from UK to Sweden. Still cheaper than buying one here in Sweden as the G3 with the 6th gen i5 6500 proccesor goes for around 120-130 Euro and dosent support H.265 10bit transcoding.

[@ntgm20]

I lived in the UK for two years and understand a little of the back and forth on prices between them and mainland Europe. While we could get something cheaper here they could easily run as much too.

[@Silvest3r]

I use Prodesk 600 g4 sff for coding and data stuff, just great machine for non gaming productivity tasks, fast boot up, silent and nice connectivity. Great machine, love it.

[@ntgm20]

Looks like a great use for one. Yes, it is amazing how quickly these can boot compared to hardware just a few years older.

[@MindBlowerWTF]

It wasn't terrible. Ended up choosing 600 G3 SFF over 400 G4 MT. Chassis is like 48$, 7100 for 19ish$, free leftover ssd, 4TB HDD for storage - 46$, 16GB RAM 28$. Should be fine for Plex, storage and random software/project to learn something new.

[@ntgm20]

Sounds great!

[@SillyOmega3]

Anybody knows any upgrade alternative for my HP 400 G6 power supply? I am on a 180W power supply and can't make use of Graphics card 🫤

[@ntgm20]

Are you using SFF or tower?

[@josezamarripa3460]

so, the sff 600 g3 does not support intel 8th gen processors?

[@ntgm20]

They, along with the 800 g3 do not. Instead they support 6th and 7th gen.

[@geolos007]

I wish I could get these for $40. In our country they are usually more like $400 lol, although I managed to get the MT version of prodesk 600 G5 for $130 usd, but that almost looked like a mistake in their pricing, as it has the pentium gold CPU, which is however not bad at all.

[@ntgm20]

Wow. Anything that is official supported by Windows 11 will pull a premium against those that cannot officially support it.

[@discomon]

That silver-coloured part on these computers, is it metal or just spray painted plastic?:)

[@ntgm20]

Just plastic. It is part of the front bezel that can come off and then there is metal behind it.

[@InternationalLiaison]

My only problem with the ProDesk SFF G3,G4,G5 is that they cant physically install teh NVIDIA RTX A2000 (which basically performs to a 1660TI). Which is why a prefer the Pro and Elite SFF G1, and G2 with i7 4790 and 32GB of Crucial Balistik RAM. They are entertainment/gaming mini monsters.

[@ntgm20]

Prodesk 400 is a bit smaller for sure, and does create some issues like that.

[@mikecar52]

6th gen i7 6700t does just fine on windows 11. No problem whatsoever installing. I guess similarly for lesser chips on 6th.

[@ntgm20]

Thanks. I've not actually tried installing it, as I'd read there were work around needed. 4C/8T on the likes of the 6th and 7th Gen i7 would still provide a nice experience under W11 for a few more years.

[@ahmadrazali9029]

What is the best GPU can i put Prodesk 600 G3 SFF with 180W?

[@ntgm20]

I guess that depends on what you are needing to do with it. Low profile and power stuff isn't as plentiful, but I've seen some videos on using low profile cards to game. I still just use CPU power for video editing.

[@ahmadrazali9029]

@@ntgm20 can i put HD7570 1gb ddr5 low profil on this pc with 180w?

[@LesCalvin3]

I found your video after buying a pro desk 600 g5. For 45 bucks!

[@noxiusobvious4239]

Finally found a cheap af leftover-Elitedesk selling guy in town. I'm now also a proud owner of 3 Elitedesk 800 G3s i5 6500 2x4Gb RAM, 500Gb HDD. With only a few more spending for comfort kind of upgrades, that was less than 100 bucks for a workstation, a living room media player \ petit station du gaming and also a spare Elitedesk. Could probably do some server nertwork kind of things in the meantime. V.1337 - I enjoy.

[@ntgm20]

Sounds like a great deal! Not a bad way to start any of those projects for sure.

[@stefanorositano9621]

For the prodesk 600 g3 does it have wireless wifi connection

[@ntgm20]

From the specs yes, it does support a M.2 card for wireless. That doesn't mean what you find used will have that card in place though. I'm not sure if any of the used ones I've bought have.

[@Fjord_Driver]

You can get WiFi via a thumb drive unit if the motherboard does not have it. It just plugs into one of the USB spots. Used one for years on an old system I built. It worked fine.

[@sirzulfadhli]

My HP 800 with 9th gen i5 doesnt have NVMe slot.

[@ntgm20]

That is so weird, it should have two.

[@Fjord_Driver]

I just want to know if they will run notepad, turbo notepad, or super duper double turbo notepad.

[@ntgm20]

Notepad, yes. Notepad++, yes. Turbo notepad, super duper double turbo notepad, only if you dare.

[@mialarssen2627]

is it possible to install a Thunderbolt 3 card on EliteDesk ?

[@ntgm20]

It seems possible, Thunderbolt 3 support was added to the Skylake processors (Intel Core 6th Gen). The system would need a PCIe x4 (or x8 or x16) slot to put one in.

[@mialarssen2627]

@@ntgm20 Thank you. Do you recommand any ?

[@ntgm20]

@@mialarssen2627 I can not, I've not tested any.

[@mialarssen2627]

@@ntgm20 Thank you :)

[@richmyer9111]

I just bought a 400 g5, only I don't like is it has no comports.

[@ntgm20]

Can I ask what you'd use the serial port for?

[@MysticSteve]

Can the 600 g5 be used with a i7 9700 and a rtx a2000 without bursting into flames?

[@ntgm20]

Specs say it should have a 180W power supply, so I'd say no. You'd have to upgrade, maybe use a flex power supply, but it wouldn't have to be huge, you probably need no more than 300W.

[@MysticSteve]

@@ntgm20 i dont think you can upgrade the power supplies in those computers since psu is oem

[@ntgm20]

@@MysticSteve I think you should look at what @LowcastleTech has done with a flex PSU and OEM builds.

[@BandanazX]

Are you sure about the 800g4 only supporting 64GB? I think it's 128GB.

[@ntgm20]

That is what the specs from HP say. I've not found a 32GB stick that I've been willing to purchase to figure it out though. Currently mine is maxed out with 4 16GB sticks.

[@DaengRosanda]

nice share...

[@lazzercat]

I have 800 g3 sff with 16gb ram Rx 6400 3 Tb Hd 2 Wi-Fi cards 3 SSd

[@ntgm20]

Sounds pretty cool.

[@Datniggashaft]

Zig! Thanks for this. 😊😊

[@victorsimeonov]

Благодарим ви!

[@ntgm20]

Thank you!

[@nastronomical]

I thought the prodesk g5 400 could support a i9?

[@ntgm20]

It isn't according to the spec sheets, but one could only really tell if they popped one in there and tried. There is a good chance it won't post because the BIOS won't know what to do with it.

[@nastronomical]

​@@ntgm20Well I have a i3-9100 and wouldn't mind finding out.

[@ernestgalvan9037]

@@nastronomical…so, did the i3-9100 post? Curious Minds Want to Know 🤔

[@namansingh5788]

ZIGIIE ZIG!! BROTHER.

[@johnathanjamesjohnsonjr7408]

...👏👍🖖

[@WalterDeans]

Zig!

[@fromio]

Thanks for your video, very helpful ! Could you please test if the 800G4 SFF (or 600G4) could run a 9th gen processor? Some folks were able to run 9th gen on a 800G4 Mini (example kzbin.info/www/bejne/qaPalJKGe8eLjtU )

[@ntgm20]

I'll have to look into it. While it should be possible from the chipset standpoint, if the BIOS wasn't updated to allow it then it may not. I don't think I have any 9th gen Core CPUs, other than what is in the G5 I have.

[@MADBONE0]

Trying to get something more then G4 but $500 vs $99 for a G3 as of this EOFY it’s a no 🧠 er

[@ntgm20]

400, 600, or 800? I think anything G3 could be good depending on the use case. I'd go newer if wanting to use Windows 11.

[@KatrinaLeFaye]

zig?

[@ntgm20]

For great justice. Reference from Zero Wing and the 2003 "All your base" video.

[@KatrinaLeFaye]

@@ntgm20 thanks, hun.

[@maxcarter5922]

zig!

[@White13Wolf]

Zig Zig :)

[@liveinfoportal]

Zig

[@kiwi-ross]

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[@ConsoleMemories]

Bro my school runs this

[@ConsoleMemories]

I think it’s the 400 model

[@ntgm20]

Very cool. Do you know what processor it runs? That might identify the generation and be able to speculate the age. Of course you can do that with the service tag too.

[@ConsoleMemories]

We use Chrome is flex on it I only know the Cpu it's a Core I3

[@safetydave720]

"sat-uh" is how you pronounce SATA.

[@ernestgalvan9037]

say-ta is how I pronounce SATA, unless I’m feeling contrary 🥸

[@ntgm20]

It is like data vs Lt Commander Data.

[@maxpotenza9868]

zig

[@Vector-cj3oh]

Interesting, just found you on dawid does tech. im actually using a Hp elite desk 705 g4 and i got it for 180 dollars it has a 2400g pro 8gb ram (single stick sadly) 1tb of hhd and a good ol apu

[@ntgm20]

Thanks! Dawid makes some interesting videos for sure. Doesn't sound like a terrible system there as long as you like it. Does the 705 have four RAM slots?

[@ernestgalvan9037]

“Black Friday” and ‘Cyber All-Day’ are just around the corner. I’m thinking we’ll see low low prices on RAM and SSD stuff. I’m hoping to afford maxing out my iMac to 128GB and my SFF & USFF machines to 64GB RAM. Stuff just runs SO well when you have lots or\f room to play in. Also hope to upgrade storage.. i think we will see 4TB storage at $70-$80 , I’m talking tier-one , not the KingPao level.

[@devinpike1324]

Zig

[@douglasfulmer2231]

Zig

[@Yandarval]

Zig