הרב טוביה סינגר הודף מתקפה משיחית-נוצרית. דיון מרתק ביותר פרק ב -Rabbi Tovia Singer

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[@peachlilac925]

Excellent debates! I love hearing these points of view. Facinsting to listen too and Im glad everyone is a good sport!

[@bookmouse2719]

Thank you Rabbi

[@matpieterse3287]

Love ❤️ your work Rabbi.

[@private464]

Rabbi Singer, you are doing a GREAT job. Thank you for what you do...and for putting the truth out here on youtube for everyone who is interested in the truth to see and hear. Any time someone tries to engage me or others in a debate/conversation about religion or the Torah, I tell them to find your channel and listen to your videos.

[@sitresjolie2343]

Rabbi Singer’s love and patience gladden my heart! ✡️❤️

[@userxc12846]

In the Qur'an it is said that Jews like to change the holy books and kill the prophets. The talmud confirms that isaiah 53 was about the Messiah in sanhedrin 98b the Leper Scholar. After they realized yeshua is Messiah they changed it. even in Al Qur'an say that yeshua is Messiah 😁

[@danwilliams4724]

Rabbi, you have such a difficult task of telling the Truth to so many people who don't want to hear it. Truly HaShem has emboldened you. Thank you for inspiring all of us who chose to follow the Holy One, blessed be he forever.

[@sitresjolie2343]

@WrathofGod144 The Greek booklets from which you quote are an idolatrous fabrication. Repent and obey the seven Noahide laws. ✡️❤️

[@user-wd7ex4gr6b]

​@WrathofGod144: What the absolute Hell are you even talking about???! What "former ruler"???! That's pagan blasphemy!! 37:28 You need to realize, research, and accept, that NOWHERE did God ever mention the "Jesus" character to us, NOWHERE did He tell us that we need to be "saved", and NOWHERE did He tell us that He requires HUMAN BLOOD (a purely pagan ritual that God ABHORS!!) as atonement for our sins. NO FURTHER SCRIPTURES were given to mankind by God AFTER Mt. Sinai, therefore, Christianity absolutely did NOT come from God! PLEASE buy a Hebrew Bible (says "Stone Edition TANACH" on the cover), and Rabbi Tovia Singer's books, as well as Rabbi Stuart Federow's book "Judaism and Christianity: A Contrast", to help you understand why Christianity absolutely did NOT come from God.

[@susanlett9632]

He sure does! I couldn't do it for a day. I'd lose my temper

[@johnpetry5321]

@WrathofGod144 how interesting that an account created today posts a comment referencing Christian idolatrous claims regarding blessings they receive because they worship a god-man. That gobbet of Christian heresy does not support the remainder of the comment.

[@terrancemanhoff-ly8zx]

😂😆😂🤣🤣😂😂😂🤣😭

[@happyguy3013]

Thank you Rabbi for this holy work you are doing ..a huge kiddush Hashem ... May Hashem give you a long life in this world and in the world to come

[@johandelen1838]

Rabbi Singer, may HaShem bless you for this 🙏

[@johandelen1838]

@Justice14474 Ultimately, who controls, and rules over the "ruler of darkness"?

[@Seacheroftruth]

​@@johandelen1838Zoroastrianism in this thread? Ok....

[@wimm1392]

Hear O Israel, the Lord is our God, the Lord is one. And as for you, you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your strength. ) and prayed these words every morning and every evening.

[@LoreneRaeWard]

Todah Rabah Tovia Singer! I ❤ listening and learning from you!

[@sidimuslim9353]

As a practicing and believing Muslim, I believe such discussions are good and necessary. Especially because it is conducted with respect, decency and knowledge. Thank you Rabbi Tovia Singer.

[@HeinrichChrist]

I honor and thank Rabbi Singer for making this debate public Heinrich

[@elcubanitokc111]

Awesome!!

[@user-bo8nb2mi]

Deuteronomy 13:1 "Be careful to observe only that which I enjoin upon you: neither add to it nor take away from it..." Deuteronomy 4:2 "You shall not add to the word which I command you, neither shall you diminish from it, that you may keep the commandments of the Lord your God which I command you."

[@hrvatskinoahid1048]

This includes not to diminish the oral Torah.

[@user-bo8nb2mi]

It's not Old Testament but authentic and only Testament.

[@nmnopnonld3ti]

Usually there's enemity when discussing religions. But my goodness you are so patient with Christians. It inspires ME to be patient with Christians. Although it's way easier to ignore them.

[@lauratempestini5719]

Such a good teaching!!! THE FATHER does not change!!!’

[@debrapaulino918]

Rabbi i appreciate you, thank you. In 2014 when i attended a few synogogues for answers they had no resources. Ive suggested your volumes to them.

[@susanlett9632]

You can lead a horse to water but you cannot make him drink! Sadly I fear Heinrich along with lots of other folks are going to perish of thirst VERY soon! Idk how rabbi Singer has rhe patience to deal with these people. I'd end up having a meltdown of biblical proportions, lose my temper and wnd up banned from KZbin! Bless this wonderful and knowledgeable Rabbi

[@fearfullyconfident2333]

You ain’t the only one. Rabbi is teaching us without saying a word!

[@susanlett9632]

​@@fearfullyconfident2333 FACTS! 💯

[@1InvisibleSongstress]

Rabbi Singer's facial expressions are already enough and says it all!!! Thanks, Susan!!!

[@susanlett9632]

​@@1InvisibleSongstress 😁 ❤️

[@jesse747400]

“The NT has mistakes” …G-d doesn’t make mistakes, therefore the “N.T” doesn’t come from G-d, it’s very simple.

[@marktravis5162]

Lol the scriptures themselves have mistakes written throughout them, so based on your logic because of that, they too can’t come from God. That’s why that’s not a good argument to make, but it is true that God doesn’t make mistakes and if he would have wrote the books of the Bible himself there wouldn’t be any, but man wrote it and because of that we have different errors, but the good news is regardless we can see the truth within them

[@user-wd7ex4gr6b]

​@@marktravis5162: Where you're mistaken is in not accepting the fact that God only gave us ONE set of scriptures - the Hebrew scriptures given to Moses at Mt. Sinai. NO FURTHER SCRIPTURES were given to us by God AFTER that time! You need to realize, research, and accept, that NOWHERE did God ever mention the "Jesus" character to us, NOWHERE did He tell us that we need to be "saved", and NOWHERE did He tell us that He requires HUMAN BLOOD (a purely pagan ritual that God ABHORS!!) as atonement for our sins. NO FURTHER SCRIPTURES were given to mankind by God AFTER Mt. Sinai, therefore, Christianity absolutely did NOT come from God! PLEASE buy a Hebrew Bible (says "Stone Edition TANACH" on the cover), and Rabbi Tovia Singer's books, as well as Rabbi Stuart Federow's book "Judaism and Christianity: A Contrast", to help you understand why Christianity absolutely did NOT come from God.

[@avrahamisaacs2593]

@@marktravis5162 The mistakes and contradictions in the NT were addressed in the video but you making the claims that there are errors in the Hebrew Scriptures without substantiation is just claims without evidence. You saying that it has mistakes doesn’t mean that it does.

[@marktravis5162]

@@avrahamisaacs2593 There’s actually multiple errors throughout that’s even acknowledged by Jewish scholars, mistakes made by scribes from the past. Therefore you have one book mention a specific number and another a different one, and like different kings giving different years of when they reigned, chronicles will give you one number and kings another one. Now obviously they’re not errors that take away from the truth and can easily be overlooked but the point is that it’s ignorant to say that there’s no errors or mistakes written in it. You got multiple scribes and copies of scripture being written over periods of years, so that happening is understandable and makes sense. Scholars know the majority is just a copiest error. That being said no one should see any of those as a way to not trust the rest of the text, because it’s not that big of a deal 👍

[@avrahamisaacs2593]

@@marktravis5162 I was hoping you replied back to me because I knew that one of the things (if you were doing your homework) was the issue with the counts between kings and Chronicles. Though my understanding of this issue between them is deficient I do know of rabbis that have a rational explanation for the seemingly scholarly error. If I find the rabbinical source I’ll make sure to post it as it will bring clarification to myself as well and will be able to use it when someone else like yourself comes with the same response. However, when I heard it from this rabbi it made sense as to why they were different counts but it didn’t stick to my memory.

[@allisonsmith9050]

Wow. This was a takedown. Fantastic.

[@matpieterse3287]

Did Abraham as a sign sacrifice his son? NO. Is blood drinking and body eating/spiritual cannabalism evil and disgusting? YES. Has ths roman cathlic church concocted a religion so that people would pay money for their temples? YES. Does christianity have authority? NO. Can the christian bible be fulfillment even if half true? NO, a thief in the night is no glorified return. Blessed be The God of Jewish Faith Hashem ✡️.

[@u.y.3643]

Heinrich confusion is as big as that pagan symbol behind him.

[@1InvisibleSongstress]

Awesome 😂🤣😭😆

[@user-bo8nb2mi]

The great Hebrew prophet Isaiah lived 700 years earlier. So how dare one quote him to justify a belated replacement religion? Without the Torah, Tanakh, the other two major religions would not have any source.

[@moose31313]

What if another religion came from the same God, so why would the same God come with different laws and different prophets. Prophet Abraham and the prophets before him were not Jewish or Christian. They were muslims. Muslim means one who submits to the will of God. Islam is a universal religion to all humanity, while Judaism is only for the Jews. Judaism comes from the name Judah, one of the Sons of prophet Yaqub Peace, and blessings be upon him. So Islam is not a copy it just comes from the same God. It's a confirmation of the previous revelations that were distorted through time. God does not change his laws you cant pick and choose which laws you like and which you dislike. All are from God, and there is no old and new law. God does not change his laws. God said, "dont eat pork his not going to later say it's ok to eat it. These are pauls words, not God, and it's a grave sin to think that Pauls agnorant words are Gods words.

[@TheQueenRulesAll]

​@@moose31313Nope, you are misunderstanding Judaism and it's concepts. Maybe take some time to learn more before stating misinformation. Judaism includes all people, not everyone need fulfill all the laws to have a place in the world to come. It is all inclusive.

[@GilbertGreich]

Todah Rabba!

[@nat101yt]

Boy! When Heinrich started his talk about clear mistakes in the NT, you can see the Rabbi waiting to pounce! You don't need to be a Rabbi Singer to see the trap Heimlich laid for himself!

[@barouchkrakauer7815]

Tough discussing the Bible with people who never read the Bible. Not even the German testimony.

[@barouchkrakauer7815]

@WrathofGod144 There is only 1 God. His fullness neans he is 1. Not 3. All humen are NOT God. ALL.

[@johnpetry5321]

@WrathofGod144 how interesting that an account created today repeatedly posts a comment referencing Christian idolatrous claims regarding blessings they receive because they worship a god-man in response to different comments. That gobbet of Christian heresy does not support the remainder of the comment.

[@samfromisrael]

צעדים חשובים נעסו. המשך הצלחה לכוחותינו.

[@ernestinepatterson4151]

Baruch Hashem.

[@D18.21]

❤

[@Raizel613]

Please pray for me and my family, Rabbi. We’re going through tough times. I feel very alone, depressed and have a lot of mental and emotional stress.

[@susanlett9632]

I pray for you. May Hashem bless you. ❤️

[@Raizel613]

@@susanlett9632 🥺 Thank you, I appreciate your prayers and blessings. May Hashem bless you too! ❤️🙏🏼

[@Raizel613]

@SilviaSumberaz5 ❤️🙏🏼😊

[@syedasimali1946]

I am sad to note how each one missed the simple point Heinrich was making that “God sacrificed himself to himself to save us from himself.”

[@1InvisibleSongstress]

Yes Yes Yes 😂😂👍🤣🤣

[@carolbonfield8622]

This needs a part 2.

[@MoshehYinon26]

Heinrick wants for everyone to use "faith" to accept "mysteries" that doesn't make sense, even if errors or corruption occurs in text, it doesn't matter, I guess his point is that the end goal is what matters the most, even if it's not a logical thing.

[@Superman_1938]

Deuteronomy 30:1-10 Deuteronomy 32:5,15-36 Isaiah 9:7 Isaiah 51:16 Isaiah 61:1-2 Isaiah 65 Isaiah 66 Daniel 2:44 Daniel 7:13-14 Daniel 9:24-27 Daniel 12:1-7 Joel 2:28-32 Zechariah 6:13

[@dbog5214]

עבודה טובנ

[@user-mn4px1dm9x]

קשקוש כאילו אנחנו חיים בימי הביניים.

[@terryulmer969]

Christianity lacks common sense! The One True Creator G_d who created all of the Cosmos and everything in it doesn't need any middleman to forgive anyone of their sins! The One True Creator G_d has said this from the very beginning! Bereshit (Genesis) 4: 3Now it came to pass at the end of days, that Cain brought of the fruit of the soil an offering to the Lord. גוַיְהִ֖י מִקֵּ֣ץ יָמִ֑ים וַיָּבֵ֨א קַ֜יִן מִפְּרִ֧י הָֽאֲדָמָ֛ה מִנְחָ֖ה לַֽיהֹוָֽה: 4And Abel he too brought of the firstborn of his flocks and of their fattest, and the Lord turned to Abel and to his offering. דוְהֶ֨בֶל הֵבִ֥יא גַם־ה֛וּא מִבְּכֹר֥וֹת צֹאנ֖וֹ וּמֵֽחֶלְבֵהֶ֑ן וַיִּ֣שַׁע יְהֹוָ֔ה אֶל־הֶ֖בֶל וְאֶל־מִנְחָתֽוֹ: 5But to Cain and to his offering He did not turn, and it annoyed Cain exceedingly, and his countenance fell. הוְאֶל־קַ֥יִן וְאֶל־מִנְחָת֖וֹ לֹ֣א שָׁעָ֑ה וַיִּ֤חַר לְקַ֨יִן֙ מְאֹ֔ד וַיִּפְּל֖וּ פָּנָֽיו: 6And the Lord said to Cain, "Why are you annoyed, and why has your countenance fallen? ווַיֹּ֥אמֶר יְהֹוָ֖ה אֶל־קָ֑יִן לָ֚מָּה חָ֣רָה לָ֔ךְ וְלָ֖מָּה נָֽפְל֥וּ פָנֶֽיךָ: 7Is it not so that if you improve, it will be forgiven you? If you do not improve, however, at the entrance, sin is lying, and to you is its longing, but you can rule over it." זהֲל֤וֹא אִם־תֵּיטִיב֙ שְׂאֵ֔ת וְאִם֙ לֹ֣א תֵיטִ֔יב לַפֶּ֖תַח חַטָּ֣את רֹבֵ֑ץ וְאֵלֶ֨יךָ֙ תְּשׁ֣וּקָת֔וֹ וְאַתָּ֖ה תִּמְשָׁל־בּֽוֹ: *** See!!! No so-called "Jesus " is ever needed!!! Never has been!!! Never will be!!! The One True Creator G_d forbids 🚫 human sacrifice! It is an abomination!!! The One True Creator G_d specifically said in no uncertain terms that NO One can die for the sins of another! You and you alone are responsible for your own actions! Yechezkel (Ezekiel) 18: 20The soul that sins, it shall die; a son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, and a father shall not bear the iniquity of the son; the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon himself, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon himself. כהַנֶּ֥פֶשׁ הַֽחֹטֵ֖את הִ֣יא תָמ֑וּת בֵּ֞ן לֹֽא־יִשָּׂ֣א | בַּֽעֲו‍ֹ֣ן הָאָ֗ב וְאָב֙ לֹ֚א יִשָּׂא֙ בַּֽעֲו‍ֹ֣ן הַבֵּ֔ן צִדְקַ֚ת הַצַּדִּיק֙ עָלָ֣יו תִּֽהְיֶ֔ה וְרִשְׁעַ֥ת הָֽרָשָׁ֖ע (כתיב רָשָׁ֖ע) עָלָ֥יו תִּֽהְיֶֽה: 21 And if the wicked man repent of all his sins that he has committed and keeps all My laws and executes justice and righteousness, he shall surely live, he shall not die. כאוְהָֽרָשָׁ֗ע כִּ֚י יָשׁוּב֙ מִכָּל־חַטֹּאתָיו֙ (כתיב חַטֹּאתָו֙) אֲשֶׁ֣ר עָשָׂ֔ה וְשָׁמַר֙ אֶת־כָּל־חֻקּוֹתַ֔י וְעָשָׂ֥ה מִשְׁפָּ֖ט וּצְדָקָ֑ה חָיֹ֥ה יִחְיֶ֖ה לֹ֥א יָמֽוּת: 22All his transgressions that he has committed shall not be remembered regarding him: through his righteousness that he has done he shall live. כבכָּל־פְּשָׁעָיו֙ אֲשֶׁ֣ר עָשָׂ֔ה לֹ֥א יִזָּֽכְר֖וּ ל֑וֹ בְּצִדְקָת֥וֹ אֲשֶׁר־עָשָׂ֖ה יִֽחְיֶֽה: 23Do I desire the death of the wicked? says the Lord God. Is it not rather in his repenting of his ways that he may live? כגהֶֽחָפֹ֚ץ אֶחְפֹּץ֙ מ֣וֹת רָשָׁ֔ע נְאֻ֖ם אֲדֹנָ֣י יֱהֹוִ֑ה הֲל֛וֹא בְּשׁוּב֥וֹ מִדְּרָכָ֖יו (כתיב מִדְּרָכָ֖ו) וְחָיָֽה: *** See!!! Still No so-called "Jesus " is ever needed!!! Never has been!!! Never will be!!! The One True Creator G_d forbids 🚫 Adultery!!! But Christians want people to believe that G_d got another man's wife pregnant just like Zeus used to run around doing. Christianity is a lie! Christianity adopted way too many idolatrous and pagan beliefs contrary to what The One True Creator G_d actually said. We follow the instructions of the One True Creator G_d!!! Not the lies of Christianity.

[@billieackley6280]

❤ well put!

[@marktravis5162]

Lol then you should explain why God used Moses and the prophets as middle men between him and his people

[@johnpetry5321]

@WrathofGod144 How interesting that two accounts were created today, each posting comments referencing Christian idolatrous claims regarding blessings received by the worship of a god-man. The classic issue with Christian trolls posting this type of silliness is they have made specific assumptions. They believe that the Christian texts are univocal with the Tanakh. They also believe that the Christian texts are the inerrant word of their three-in-one god. These trolls firmly believe that everything in the Jewish Scriptures and in their own Christian writing points to one thing only - that Jesus is the only possible way for a human being to obtain salvation. So, Angel and Wrath operate under specific presuppositions. First, for any of the authors of any text in the Tanakh or the Christian texts, the Christian 3-in-1 deity planted that idea in the head of the author - this is the presupposition of inspiration. Secondly, there is no error anywhere in the Tanakh or the Christian texts. There are no contradictions or errors, no manner in which the text of the Tanakh disagrees or conflicts with their Christian writing - this is the presupposition of inerrancy. This is a rhetorical technique they are using. It operates on the basis that the Tanakh and Christian texts have this single rhetorical purpose related to Jesus. This is a dogma and not supported by any facts. They use this dogma to impose a unifying framework on the Tanakh and the Christian texts. They then assume that no text in the Tanakh can disagree with or contradict any text in the Christian writings. In any argument about whether or not the Tanakh disagrees with the Christian writings, their view is that this is impossible because of the univocal nature of the texts and the inerrancy of the texts. Simply put, they operate under the supposition that the purpose of every text in the Tanakh and Christian texts points to Jesus as the salvation of the world. Ergo, all those texts were inspired by the Christian deity to point to that supposition of salvation only through Jesus. Finally, because of points one and two, there can't be any contradictions, errors, or disagreements between the Tanakh and Christian writings. But this is a bad-faith argument. They have included their conclusion in their premise. This is a form of logical fallacy called begging the question. We see it used here by wrathful deception. Nothing that actually ties the quotations from Psalms or Proverbs to the claims made in the Christian text. No effort is made to make any logic-based argument to tie them together. It is just an exercise in Christian heresy designed to deceive and seduce people to idolatry.

[@franklarafilms]

I am waiting for a good opportunity to discuss the book of Enoch and also the validation of the Ethiopian bible older then the kings James bible

[@hrvatskinoahid1048]

The Jewish Bible with Rashi's commentary is available at the Chabad website.

[@damarwuriutama9004]

🦶 ✝️

[@carlosdiaz3115]

Christian thinking abstract Jewish thinking Concrete!!!!

[@GarryFishermusic]

A common mistake is much easier to repeat over and over again the truth then sounds wrong despite being truth .

[@GarryFishermusic]

@Justice14474 Sorry but I don’t receive either magazine subscription :)

[@Ian-nb9iw]

I think Joseph and Mary essentially did right what King David did wrong. This seems to me to be the key to a lot of understanding in regards to sacred scripture of like every faith...

[@sharoljessy3307]

Rabbi please explain about the so called holy fire at the holy sepulcher church.

[@hrvatskinoahid1048]

Whoever changes the Torah is a false prophet, even with miracles.

[@sereneacuity8569]

@@hrvatskinoahid1048 The Dead Sea Scrolls prove there were multiple versions of Hebrew scriptures before the destruction of the 2nd Temple. And the death of Jesus didnt influence the writers - at all?

[@hrvatskinoahid1048]

@@sereneacuity8569 The original text is to this day in all Torah-scrolls.

[@sereneacuity8569]

I disagree, there were several translations in the Dead Sea Scrolls to prove it. No, original sole Hebrew Bible ever existed and/or survived the destruction of the 2nd Temple. There were many scrolls that were compiled to create the Hebrew Bible. And the history shows the Pharisees did not ALL agree on which texts to include or which verse was too "complicated" to include.

[@user-rx7zj5cc4v]

This one shows how desperate a xtian can be when they lose their reasons...to all xtians out there know your limits...you can't just act like this, you can't enter heaven with this..if it's true.

[@missasinenomine]

Who on earth is this Heinrich guy? He needs to brush up on his English if he wants to zoom.

[@julianmontoya428]

Jerusalem is the holy city from God! While the vatican is the place of pilgrimage for catholics and many ancestors of Christianity....the truth is what matters! The holy bible tells us God himself blessed the holy land!...

[@trevorbates9017]

There is a wonderful science written into the Holy Bible. We are entering the space-age...and the electromagnetic age, all at the same time, but, it seems, someone else has got there before us...and told us about it. The key point is the indestructible massless energy that frequents stars and atoms. We, as a conglomerate of living cells are also subject to those laws. Some people prefer the wild version of those universal laws but the wise prefer the righteous version as taught by Almighty God, whether through Moses and the prophets, or Jesus Christ, alone, and totally unaided..

[@mrsock3598]

Cause the Masoretic has no mistakes 👀

[@azukarzuchastux8066]

Zechariah 14 New International Version The Lord Comes and Reigns 14 A day of the Lord is coming, Jerusalem, when your possessions will be plundered and divided up within your very walls. 2 I will gather all the nations to Jerusalem to fight against it; the city will be captured, the houses ransacked, and the women raped. Half of the city will go into exile, but the rest of the people will not be taken from the city. 3 Then the Lord will go out and fight against those nations, as he fights on a day of battle. 4 On that day his feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, east of Jerusalem, and the Mount of Olives will be split in two from east to west, forming a great valley, with half of the mountain moving north and half moving south. 5 You will flee by my mountain valley, for it will extend to Azel. You will flee as you fled from the earthquake[a] in the days of Uzziah king of Judah. Then the Lord my God will come, and all the holy ones with him

[@ElliutN]

What Godly secret about salvation through Jesus was revealed through Gods prophets 🤷

[@saul2491]

They should never have tried attaching their NT to our tanach.

[@umairtariq9798]

Read quran and get guidance. Say Allah is One

[@hrvatskinoahid1048]

Keep the 7 Noahide laws and leave Jews alone.

[@mannymannyson6720]

We can read the quran. But we see deuteronomy tells us 3 times that nothing can be added or subtracted making the quran a false revelation right there

[@umairtariq9798]

@@mannymannyson6720 if deuteronomy verse is truth then all the revealation including new testament is disapproved. Don't play blind

[@mannymannyson6720]

@umairtariq9798 agreed. NT is the antithesis of the tanach and doesn't fit with it. Nt is not inspired by G-d. Quran also is a false revelation. Judaism is the whole truth. You should know that from Deuteronomy chapter 4. Can even throw in deuteronomy 13 for good measure.

[@randycarson9812]

I'm puzzled by the mention of contradictions in the New Testament. If this is a valid argument, wouldn't that mean that contradictions in the Tanakh falsify Judaism? Conversely, if contradictions in the OT (such as the differences between Gen 1 & Gen 2) can be explained by the fact that different authors had different purposes for writing at different times, couldn't that be true of the NT authors, as well?

[@terrancemanhoff-ly8zx]

Question! If prophet Moses never completed the Torah, who did ? Please,please answer this question 🙋‍♂️

[@hrvatskinoahid1048]

Tractate Sanhedrin 99a states that every word in the Torah was dictated to Moses by God Himself.

[@terrancemanhoff-ly8zx]

@@hrvatskinoahid1048 but Moses never completed the Torah. If entire Torah was given to Moses on Mt. Sinai, how and why did Moses not read ahead into his future to prevent certain mistakes (such as striking a rock instead of talking to it (Numbers 20:8-13) and tragedies (Numbers 13-14) from happening?

[@hrvatskinoahid1048]

@@terrancemanhoff-ly8zx The oral Torah preceded the completion of the Five Books of Torah that Moses wrote down at the end of his life.

[@terrancemanhoff-ly8zx]

@@hrvatskinoahid1048 so why do Israelites disagree with us? And Evidence to demonstrate the antiquity of much of Torah yet showing how Moses couldn’t have been the only author of the Torah, as proven by a number of rabbinic sources, and the consequences of such a belief. When it comes to the authorship of the world’s greatest best-seller, the Bible, two extreme stances were taken. The Bible Critic is adamant that the Torah (i.e., the Pentateuch or Five Books of Moses) was written in several different stages throughout the Monarchy of the First Temple era and added upon in the Babylonian exile and afterwards. On the other extreme stands the theologically Orthodox Jew or Christian adamant that Moses wrote every word in the Torah and that God dictated to Moses exactly what to write. This religious view would date the Torah to sometime in the late second-millennium BCE. Will Mr Singer know?

[@terrancemanhoff-ly8zx]

Mr Singer please stand up. I need clarification on this issue…

[@mackreynolds7673]

Where today is the true sacrifice for the "stranger " ?

[@hrvatskinoahid1048]

Gentiles have no obligation to offer sacrifices.

[@mackreynolds7673]

@@hrvatskinoahid1048 What about those of the dispersed among the Greeks, the lost sheep of Israel ?

[@hrvatskinoahid1048]

@@mackreynolds7673 The true identity of a child as a Jew or a Gentile by birth is matrilineal; it follows the identity of the mother who conceived the embryo and carried it through pregnancy until the child's birth.

[@sereneacuity8569]

I agree, God doesn't change. However, Rabbi continues, "I don't care what Jews think, I don't care what Jews believe, I want what's in the Jewish Bible. He fails to say there were many translations of Hebrew scripture before the Hebrew Bible was official. Dead Sea Scrolls prove it. The official Hebrew Bible was completed after Jesus's death. To debate Jesus's authenticity., one has to go back to the Hebrew Scriptures before the official, voted upon Hebrew Bible existed. Then, the debate cannot bring in Christianity and the Roman Church. It was the division of the Pharasees that branched off and continued the belief in Jesus. Not the Christians. Christians weren't even named yet until years, and years later.

[@oldeweightlifting4249]

In the end they will only then accept the truth

[@sitresjolie2343]

Yes. We need to be prepared for when the non-righteous gentiles realize the error of their ways. ✡️❤️

[@davisuehara3528]

Jesus said you can marry another man's wife. He also said a man can marry another man. Jesus declared all foods clean, which means bacon is on the table. Jesus changed the law, because he is God and God changes. Amen!?

[@hrvatskinoahid1048]

Whoever changes the Torah is a false prophet.

[@sereneacuity8569]

Please don't be offended, and if you are, I'm sorry, it is not my intent. This is only my opinion and I have no ill feelings towards anyone. Jesus is the most influential Jewish person that ever lived and the first "church" was all Jewish. The word Christianity is nowhere in the bible. Christianity was formed by the Jewish people. Many are fixated on Paul's anger. Are you aware that Paul wanted to find and confront Jesus about all the Jewish followers that were turning to him? And on his mission, Paul was arresting Jesus's followers and threatening execution? Paul was one of the high Pharasee of his time before he followed Jesus. So, there is the division, and it depends which group of Pharasees you want to follow. The Septuagint was written because it was the most spoken and common language at the time. The Lord wanted the truth to spread atound the world. IF the writings stayed only in the Hebrew language would any of the writings be widely shared? Even the Torah- to non Hebrew speaking people?I think that suggests that modern day leaders would have complete control of translation. - As do the leaders in "Christian" communities today. I do not what answers that will use examples of today's world to explain versus of the Bible. Thats where manipulation can hide. I want to know how the ancient Jewish person thought and learn how he saw his world, and learn from his experience. That is where wisdom is. If you give me examples of bad behaviors that a Christian or a Jewish person is doing today, I'm sure we'll both agree, its a bad behavior. All languages have evolved! And editing is apparent its used to better articulate the meaning for today's people. Ancient texts hold the answers. The Dead Sea Scrolls prove there were multiple versions of Hebrew scriptures before the destruction of the 2nd Temple. And the death of Jesus didnt influence the writers - at all? What is Kapparot ceremony? A tradition followed by some or all Jewish people? Is it included in the Law? No. Do all the different sects of Judaism follow the same traditions? There still is division amongst the Jewish traditions. As there are in Christian religions, some believe in the Rapture, some don't. Some believe the earth is flat, many don't. Why do some Jewish people approach the Sabbath differently? For example, the 18 mile wire around NYC? Some agree, some don't. I do not judge, i am a mere human being. I just want truth. Gizlut da’at (גזלוּת דעת), now find that in the ancient Hebrew writings

[@hrvatskinoahid1048]

A Jew who serves false gods is considered like a gentile in all regards.

[@tersooawen4249]

"New Testimony"! The german has no business discussing theology! He sounds outright stupid!

[@mackreynolds7673]

Are not the gospels " witnesses " ?

[@sitresjolie2343]

No. They are fabrications.

[@susanlett9632]

No

[@marktravis5162]

Yes, obviously

[@johnpetry5321]

@@marktravis5162 a witness to the heresy of the Christians.

[@RunesandReapers]

Christians are awesome and have produced some really good stuff in society but when you start listening to the fundamental views they have it's so crazy. Why would God not reveal his plan immediately? Why would he make it confusing, why all the fog? Meanwhile in the Tanakh God is pretty friggin clear in everything. Perhaps the Gnostic God the christians worship is kinder better from a myth perspective but it's clearly not Judaic. There is no way that even the Jews who followed teh way of Jesus believed in all this other gnostic stuff.

[@sereneacuity8569]

first "church" was all Jewish. The word Christianity is nowhere in the bible. Christianity was formed by the Jewish people. The Dead Sea Scrolls prove there were multiple versions of Hebrew scriptures before the destruction of the 2nd Temple. And the death of Jesus didnt influence the writers - at all?

[@user-id6lb2sd3j]

there is a moslem convert who has a site blogging Theeology in the second view window , he is hypcoret since he is useing jewish rabbis to justifiing islam but attacking judiasm and the state of israel just be a wear of him

[@justsomeguywhoispartofjust1965]

🤢 maybe stop occupying and stop committing atrocities since 1948 and attacks won't happen read a history book not just torah

[@Leyla_Bat_Murrah]

*1 Corinthians 9:20-22* 20 I have *become* like a Jew to the Jews, in order that I may *gain* the Jews. To those under the law I *became* as under the law (although I myself am not under the law) in order that I may *gain* those under the law. 21 To those outside the law I *became* as outside the law (although I subject to the law of Christ) in order that I may *gain* those outside the law. 22 To the weak I *became* weak, in order that I may *gain* the weak. I have *become* all things to all people that I may *gain* some of them. 20 וָאֶהִי לַיְּהוּדִים כִּיהוּדִי לִקְנוֹת הַיְּהוּדִים אֲשֶׁר הֵם תַּחַת הַתּוֹרָה לָהֶם הָיִיתִי כְּמִי שֶׁתַּחַת הַתּוֹרָה אַף כִּי־אֲנִי אֵינֶנִּי תַּחַת הַתּוֹרָה לְמַעַן קְנוֹת אוֹתָם שֶׁהֵם תַּחַת הַתּוֹרָה: 21 לְאֹתָם שֶׁאֵין לָהֶם תּוֹרָה הָיִיתִי כְּמִי שֶׁאֵין לוֹ תּוֹרָה אַף עַל־פִּי שֶׁאֵינֶנִּי בְּלֹא־תוֹרַת אֱלֹקִים כִּי־תוֹרַת הַמָּשִׁיחַ תּוֹרָתִי לְמַעַן קְנוֹת אוֹתָם שֶׁאֵין לָהֶם תּוֹרָה: 22 וְלַחַלָּשִׁים הָיִיתִי כְחַלָּשׁ לִקְנוֹת אֶת־הַחַלָּשִׁים הַכֹּל לְכֻלָּם נִהְיֵיתִי לְמַעַן אוֹשִׁיעַ אֲחָדִים עַל כָּל־פָּנִים

[@matpieterse3287]

Chameleon.... apparently.

[@sitresjolie2343]

Yes, that is Paul, bragging about his deceptions.

[@Leyla_Bat_Murrah]

*Matthew 10:34-35* 34 “Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. 35 For I have come to turn a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law 34 אַל־תַּחְשְׁבוּ כִּי בָאתִי לְהָטִיל שָׁלוֹם בָּאָרֶץ לֹא בָאתִי לְהָטִיל שָׁלוֹם כִּי אִם־חָרֶב: 35 כִּי בָאתִי לְהַפְרִיד בֵּין אִישׁ וְאָבִיו וּבֵין בַּת וְאִמָּהּ וּבֵין כַּלָּה וַחֲמוֹתָהּ

[@matpieterse3287]

That's admitting that the idol was anti-peace on a permanent basis.

[@u.y.3643]

@@matpieterse3287this is a bot

[@sitresjolie2343]

@@matpieterse3287 Layla is a servant of HaShem, showing the falsehood from the Greek booklets themselves. ✡️❤️

[@sitresjolie2343]

@@u.y.3643Nice try, dear. Repent and follow the Noahide laws. ✡️❤️

[@u.y.3643]

@@sitresjolie2343 what?

[@Diana-xm1dm]

Isaiah's son is Maher-Shalal-Hash-Baz. Jesus is Immanuel.

[@paulawallace8784]

"BEHOLD, THE YOUNG WOMAN IS WITH CHILD" Yesahayhu/Isaiah 7: 14 Therefore, the Lord, of His own, shall give you a sign; behold, the young woman is with child, and she shall bear a son, and she shall call his name Immanuel.

[@paulawallace8784]

Immanuel is the prophetic name given to the child by His mother and Maher-shalal-hash-baz is the prophetic name given to the same child by his father at Gd's order.

[@Diana-xm1dm]

@@paulawallace8784 We already went through this...the young woman is a virgin. There is no Baby Daddy. No Baby Daddy=virgin birth. Isaiah's son is Maher-Shalal-Hash-Baz.

[@paulawallace8784]

​@@Diana-xm1dmYour Heathen Greco-Roman/Christian carnal idol of flesh made in the Image of Man Jesus, is but a composite of a myriad of Heathen Greco-Roman Idols, such as PERSEUS the Virtuous Virgin born demigod, DIONYSUS the Water into Wine Miracle Maker and MITHRAS the Dying/Resurrecting idol who dies for the People, who raises the dead and heals the lame and the sick, whose Devotees Eat of the flesh and drink of the blood. Like his sidekick the Heathen Greco-Roman/Christian Devil with his lake of fire, they are but fabricated characters of Heathen Man, found only in the Greek Tall Tales of Heathen Man/NT and Joe Smith Jr's Book of Mormon, Not the 24 Books of the Bible, the Torah/Tanakh.

[@russrussel3947]

​​@@Diana-xm1dm Tiberius Julius Abdes Pantera was his Father, and he was an illegitimate son.

[@serviteurun1500]

Jesus Christ chose Peter as Head of the earthly Church. Not Paul/Saul or anyone else. The Gospels of Matthew (original Apostle, although having been chosen after the others), that of Mark, scribe of Peter and of whom Peter says that he is his son, and the Gospel of John (original Apostle), are the true voice of Christianity. Everything else you can read but it would not be a good idea to take it into account. God and His Messiah did not choose Paul/Saul, re-read John 17, while Christ is speaking in John 17, Paul/Saul is throwing stones at Christ's disciples (that's a way of speaking), but the Catholic Church and all branches of official Christianity only have Paul/Saul on their lips all the time, there is a problem somewhere! True Christianity is not what you see, it is what you read in Matthew, Mark and John. There is no branch of Christianity that is consistent with the Word today. The religion of Christ, if we must give Him one, is original Judaism, it is the Mosaic Law.

[@serviteurun1500]

There is no contradiction between the Gospels of Matthew, Mark and John and the Tanakh, if you see any, say where. Luke is Greek and a disciple of Paul/Saul before being a disciple of Christ. I do not take his Gospel into account, I consider it to be falsified. Christianity is the Tanakh plus the Gospels of Matthew, Mark and John. That's all as far as I'm concerned. If, in contradiction with the Torah, you take into consideration what Jesus Christ said about "an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth" etc... it is not a contradiction but a welcome development (unless you consider that revenge belongs to you and not to God when it suits you, a question we can ask ourselves at the moment for Israel). If you take into consideration the fact that Jesus Christ heals people on Shabbat, we should no longer send people to the hospital on that day, is it what you do? Tell how the Christianity of the Gospels that I have cited would be contrary to the Torah or the Tanakh in one way or another!

[@abc_6]

*1 John ch5 v7* “For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.”

[@alekssalkinrkc]

Just FYI: this is pretty much universally accepted as a later addition, as the earliest surviving manuscripts from 1 John (4th century) do not contain this verse.

[@Leyla_Bat_Murrah]

*Luke 14:26* If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters-yes, even their own life-such a person cannot be my disciple אִישׁ כִּי־יָבוֹא אֵלַי וְלֹא יִשְׂנָא אֶת־אָבִיו וְאֶת־אִמּוֹ וְאֶת־אִשְׁתּוֹ וְאֶת־בָּנָיו וְאֶת־אֶחָיו וְאֶת־אַחְיֹתָיו וְאַף גַּם־אֶת־נַפְשׁוֹ לֹא יוּכַל לִהְיוֹת תַּלְמִידִי

[@catisimon77]

In other words, jesus wants you to break the fifth commandment. The fifth commandment says, “Honor your father and your mother, that your days may be long in the land that the Lord your God is giving you” (Exodus 20:12). This commandment, and the blessing attached to it, are repeated throughout the old and new testaments.

[@RunesandReapers]

This one is particularly so weird. Even if we agree Jesus had some good points like why is that there? Why this cult like attitude that completely contradicts thr law of God

[@u.y.3643]

@@catisimon77this is a bot

[@matpieterse3287]

Are you a christian quoting to show that stuff foolishly showing heresies or show people how bad those words are? What are you trying to do?

[@beslanintruder2077]

​@@matpieterse3287 she's trying to do the latter, I think

[@Leyla_Bat_Murrah]

*Romans 3:7* For if the truth of God has increased through my *LIE* to His glory, why am I also still judged as a sinner? כִּי אִם־בְּכָזְבִי תִּרְבֶּה וְתִפְרֹץ אֲמִתּוֹ שֶׁל אֱלֹקִים לִתְהִלָּה לוֹ לָמָּה אֶשָּׁפֵט עוֹד כְּחוֹטֵא

[@serviteurun1500]

The teaching of Christ is what must be integrated in order to be able to live before Him and therefore before God, the God of Israel, Yahweh, for eternity. I do not believe that those who formally obey Christ through the Gospels of Matthew, Mark and John are a danger to humanity, it is the absolute opposite. I heard Ron Chaya (on a good day) say that Christ was some kind of extremist, that's the case, His speech is extremism in terms of the Law, absolutism, and you can rightly say that almost all if not all of those who call themselves Christians do not really follow the teaching of Christ. What is said in the Gospels regarding the absence of clothing or the absence of appropriate clothing is an allusion to lack of faith and to not really seeking to correct one's being to make it correspond to what God expects of humanity, the garment symbolizes acceptance of the Law and of the teaching of Christ, in short, obedience to God allowing to make one's soul presentable in the eyes of God. What God wants, the God of Israel, Yahweh, is obedience and not sacrifices (no point trying to rebuild a Temple in Israel, the Temple will come at the same time as the Messiah)...

[@hrvatskinoahid1048]

Your hero taught the idolatrous trinity in Matthew 28:19.

[@serviteurun1500]

@@hrvatskinoahid1048 I think this is a late addition. Now, as far as I am concerned, the Father is God, Yahweh. The Son is the Son of God, the Messiah who is coming, the One whom, I hope, you will obey (but you will not have much choice), Who will be the Image of God before us. The Holy Spirit is the Voice of God, it is the way in which God communicates with us.

[@hrvatskinoahid1048]

@@serviteurun1500 What drives the claim that this text is not original is not the evidence but a presuppositional commitment to or bias for unitarianism.

[@serviteurun1500]

@@hrvatskinoahid1048 I do not recognize any Christian church, currently, as being compliant, and the non-conformity dates not from today but from the time of Paul/Saul. The role of Paul/Saul was to transmit the message throughout the world more easily, but it is a distorted message, easier to accept and therefore to transmit. It is up to those who feel called to seek the truth with the help of the Holy Spirit sent by God. If you want to make me a "Unitarian", I don't mind. As far as I am concerned, I repeat, God is Yahweh, the God of Israel, the Only God. Jesus Christ is His Son, the One that came 2000 years ago, the coming Messiah. The Holy Spirit is what Jesus Christ announced to us and that God would send to us as Help, as Guide, as Teacher in His absence, in the absence of Christ. This is “Rouah Hakodesh” in Judaism. In Torah, Chemot 24 : 9 "Moses and Aaron went up, accompanied by Nadab, Abihu and the seventy elders of Israel. 10 They beheld the Godhead of Israel. Under His feet, something like the brightness of the sapphire and clear as the substance of the sky." Who do they see? God has feet under which we can see something similar to the brilliance of sapphire? So He looks human? You will tell me: “an Angel who speaks in the Name of God, this is not the first time!” But me, I tell you the Image of God before us (Before Abraham was, I Am). Because in Torah, Chemot 33: 17 to 23, it is Yahweh in Person who presents Himself to Moses! How do you explain God has two different representations?

[@hrvatskinoahid1048]

@@serviteurun1500 It is clear that the Holy One, blessed be He, is not confined to a body or physical form. Although He may present Himself to a person as a specific form in a prophetic vision, intellectually, that is so the person can receive God's message within his mind and senses.

[@debrapaulino918]

"Mr. Singer?" Do you call your pastor "Mr.?" Or your priest "Mr.?" How about your Doctor? He is an ordained Rabbi. If you cannot oblige that social protocol nothing else you say in any way improves you.

[@hussainibrhim1325]

Long live atheism Long live humanity Science and technology.