HS2 begins assembling Turweston green bridge deck

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@DudeFrom1972 Ай бұрын

I was completely sold on this wildlife bridge project, until I reached at about 2:19 into the video WTF ! I'm not an expert when it comes to wildlife, but I think the wildlife will become roadkill if it ever dare to cross this bridge if the layout of the roads is laid as it is in the presentation.

@srpacific Ай бұрын

Exactly. What’s the point of this being for wildlife if there’s a road junction on top as well? Should’ve just made it a very long cutting, build tunnel sections, then fill it in.

@DavidKnowles0 Ай бұрын

No point in building a bridge that connects wildlife together only to divide the same space using roads instead.

@Polarbear1-b6j Ай бұрын

People really need to decide what they want, a bare bones railway built as cheaply as possible with absolutely no mitigation or something that will last in excess of 100 years and is done with the wider perspective in mind, but people can't have it both ways. Anyways you look at it the budget reflects what is being done. It's no different if you are building an extension on a home, top end materials will cost.

@srpacific Ай бұрын

You can do it both ways, perhaps by using massive steel beams instead of absolutely fking massive steel beams

@Inkyminkyzizwoz Ай бұрын

One of the reasons for the higher costs compared to other countries isn't so much mitigation factors per se, it's that elsewhere they would be funded separately to the line itself

@123stelyn Ай бұрын

Ludicrous over engineering And people wonder why to thirds of HS2 was cancelled Still it was only the north of England that lost out and they don’t really matter

@DavidShepheard Ай бұрын

@@srpacific This green bridge is useful because, if the road gets busy and needs to be "widened" they can straighten up the road a little bit on the bridge and they have plenty of room for expansion. That means a future council, for the local area, could choose to add a bus lane or cycle path.

@DavidShepheard Ай бұрын

@@Inkyminkyzizwoz Yep. Highways England should be paying for things like level crossing removals.

@JT-nr2ss Ай бұрын

That's not the final design of the road layout on the bridge is it?? The roads couldn't have a larger footprint if they tried!

@ajfrostx Ай бұрын

I was shocked to find out the cost of this green bridge - for the same price in France you could build 2.5 urban tram lines...

@taloire43 Ай бұрын

At costs eight times more to construct a railway in the UK than in France. I have not heard an explanation for this fact other than in the UK we construct monuments whereas in other countries functional railways are constructed.

@joginns778 Ай бұрын

Was the steel beams made in Britain or were they shipped in from another country, by meaning made at a steel work's in the UK,

@1chish Ай бұрын

@@taloire43 I am sure it has been explained many times to you but you just like to keep peddling this old chestnut. And I would challenge you '6 times the cost' allegation. The reasons are very simple: * France has a land mass some 2.3 times bigger than the UK. * Populations are about the same * Inter Laia there are fewer areas of conflict with areas of population which is where costs are driven up * France doesn't care a hoot about the people it moves out of the way (its take it or leave it) while we consult and compensate. * Land costs in the UK (because of population density) are 3 times that in France. * France doesn't care about the environment and habitats as we do. Agin this is a big cost driver as shown in the film. * France rarely needs to build tunnels or underground structures. Again a big cost driver here. * France puts the cost of design, planning and approvals into a Government budget not the project budget as we do. * HS stations in France go to outer suburban areas not city centres (so less population conflict) There are many more but as you will still keep peddling your tripe I can't be arsed to write them out.

@gavinathling Ай бұрын

@@1chish is right, but missed one other: We build fewer railways because of the costs, which means we are less experienced at building them and so the project spin-up costs are higher each time. I continually wonder, though: If the cost per mile of HS2 is higher than the cost per mile of Crossrail / Elizabeth Line, couldn't we just have buried the whole line and made it cheaper?

@Inkyminkyzizwoz Ай бұрын

Also, such mitigation factors would be funded separately to the line itself anyway, which is one of the reasons for the higher costs compared to other countries!

@bretty453 Ай бұрын

55m span to cross two tracks?? At what cost?

@Pesmog Ай бұрын

Anyone know why the span needs to be 55 metres wide? Are there going to be six tracks passing under this green bridge?

@Paul_707 Ай бұрын

The finished cutting track depth will be much lower than the surface they’re currently working from. The bridge allows room for the slopes.

@congyihuang9150 Ай бұрын

Can anyone explain to me how an insect knows it should not walk cross the tracks, but use that bridge instead?

@markstamp3937 Ай бұрын

Insects will follow vegetation. If they plant the right plants in the bridge then insects and other animals will follow

@jhickman4735 Ай бұрын

They have those bridges in Alberta , Canada where wildlife can pass over them..

@thetessellater9163 Ай бұрын

There are dozens of wildlife bridges in Turkey, as they also have some hefty wildlife !

@ijstock Ай бұрын

I'm a huge advocate of HS2 - but it is becoming increasingly apparent why the costs have run out of control......

@patw96 Ай бұрын

How can these people talk about connecting local wildlife when they have devastated it already?

@aquissuk Ай бұрын

I'm a supporter of HS2, but this is the first video where I've actually questioned a design choice. This seems rather over the top. Surely a normal cutting and small bridge for the lane would have worked?

@DavidShepheard Ай бұрын

This allows for the road to be widened in the future. And, to be fair to NIMBYs, this creates the impression that the areas on both sides of the railway are "one place". If you ever visit Bath, there is a camoflaged bridge there, with shops built along both sides, to trick people into thinking that the land on the other side of a river was still part of Bath. This is the same sort of trick, but using a small slice of nature to help create that illusion.

@adriansmith38 Ай бұрын

@@DavidShepheardHave you been there? "The road" is actually a tiny country lane that leads nowhere.

@faircomment1841 Ай бұрын

That would be too logical and cost efficient. Its far better to over engineer a project over a long period of time, to keep the NIMBYs happy and upload KZbin videos as soon as small progress is made. It will look nice when it's finished, albeit at a much bigger price tag than it should have been.

@cameronsteele7289 Ай бұрын

Railways divide habitats and can have a very harmful effects on local ecosystems and further escalate biodiversity loss which disrupts our countrysides natural systems. The bridge is less for people to cross and more for nature that’s why it’s called a green crossing. You might not care about biodiversity or nature but HS2 and the DfT has decided it’s worth investment. Important to note that investing in protecting our biodiversity and nature isn’t just pretty but it also helps us handle flooding etc.

@TrevorWilliams-fq8mg Ай бұрын

You can't build a cutting without battering back the sides, or the sides will collapse. The alternative would be to install vertical retaining walls which would be more expensive than battering back the sides. As the batter has to be at a constant angle the deeper the cutting the wider the excavation will be at the top of the cutting

@RichardBacon-h5x Ай бұрын

Lovely job, keep at it and ignore the nah sayers 👍

@ਮੇਰੀਮਾਂਮੇਰਾਰੱਬ-ਢ4ਰ Ай бұрын

Good work

@IndiaCN2550 Ай бұрын

英国加油，希望工程早日完成❤

@DigitalDiabloUK Ай бұрын

A green bridge, after carving a 200m swathe of destruction all the way from London to Birmingham.

@gorgu08 Ай бұрын

@@DigitalDiabloUK the track is less then 30M wide, do you have size issues?

@shaunwest3612 Ай бұрын

Incredible achievement, congratulations 👏

@RitaFarrow Ай бұрын

any reason as to why u r not covering the steel ,its not going to impede the lifting of the beams,least u will b moving forward

@LazerBenabba-w9o Ай бұрын

I am not a structural engineer but by simple observation of the many and varied rail/road bridges throughtout the UK it does appear the beams and structure generally is massively overengineered. To enable the flora and fauna a good habitat and access is commendable but as with the recent notification of the absurd bat tunnel structure at a cost of many millions represents with this biodiversity protection a degree of overkill reaching absurd levels of unnecessary cost.

@1chish Ай бұрын

They are being engineered for a 100 year lifespan plus UK regulations are some of the strictest around.

@86pp73 Ай бұрын

As the other guy said, HS2 has been designed for an extremely long lifespan. It's partially a rejection of attitudes of the previous century (Just throwing something together with no thought for the future), but also because there's an expectation that Westminster won't approve any further infrastructure for another 50-100 years. Because that's how dire of a state our political system is in

@Inkyminkyzizwoz Ай бұрын

It's not those things per se increasing the cost compared to other countries, it's the fact that elsewhere they'd be funded separately to the line itself

@TrevorWilliams-fq8mg Ай бұрын

In keeping with all major building and civil engineering projects green design gets environmental points. As HS2 is 100 miles in length there are a lot of individual contracts all of which need to get environmental points. The bat tunnel seems ludicrous at 100 million but it is designed to accommodate 4 trains passing each other at 200 mph. The air pressure would be phenomenal so the cladding is designed to withstand those forces.

@gorgu08 Ай бұрын

@@Inkyminkyzizwoz if anyone at HS2 had a frigging brain they would break the cost down into track, infrastructure, green mitigation and stations so people could understand the frigging investment profile of the project, but no HS2 limited just let the media carp on about the consolidated cost rather than the infrastructure investment

@rknaik76 Ай бұрын

The tickets will be so expensive, for 1 hrs journey the ticket will be more than 200 pounds what’s the use

@alan102g Ай бұрын

only members of parliament....and solicitors...will travel on it.

@gorgu08 Ай бұрын

@@rknaik76 lies the tickets are projected to be at normal train prices as per the wcml today, get your facts straight

@flippop101 Ай бұрын

I was always in favour of HS2, but have the feeling that the project being over-designed.

@jonathanwilliams9697 Ай бұрын

How much longer is it going to take to build? It really shouldnt be taking this long.

@-Osiris- Ай бұрын

Expert on high speed rail construction are you?

@Rob-u1r Ай бұрын

Bat tunnels ,insects crossing the lines what next.

@FODGIE1 Ай бұрын

Badger underpass🤣🤣

@Mubstransportforlondon Ай бұрын

Nice

@philipareed Ай бұрын

HAITCH? What's that?

@DavidShepheard Ай бұрын

"haitch" is a regional pronunciation of the letter H. 24 percent of people born in England since 1982 say "haitch" instead of "aitch" and it is the standard way to say "H" in Hiberno-English. So "haitch" is not wrong.

@philipareed Ай бұрын

@DavidShepheard They say haitch because they weren't educated correctly. It's pathetic that every illiterate utterance these days is blamed on something 'regional'.

@DoubleD20s Ай бұрын

Animal crossing!

@terrywilcott2137 Ай бұрын

This is what happens when the greenies get involved with building works

@bobthegreat297 Ай бұрын

pretty much lol

@scottpeacock5492 Ай бұрын

Exactly and i bet you all evironmentalist nutters drive around in their fancy vehicles in their Land Rovers or 4x4 on motorways that already tear up the countryside

@pwithnall Ай бұрын

Looks pretty good to me, we should have more of that.

@DavidShepheard Ай бұрын

Actually this is better than having high speed trains slamming into foxes, as they cross the railway to get to nature on the other side.

@terrywilcott2137 Ай бұрын

@DavidShepheard still a very expensive fox run don't you think 🤔

@willlister9825 Ай бұрын

A "Bat Tunnel", a "Wildlife Bridge", "Green Bridges", Cuttings being build within embankments - no wonder this project is massively over budget FFS!!! If they don't want HS2 to be visible, then it might have well been built underground!

@simoncryer8172 Ай бұрын

I'm sure the Tory MPs would have preferred that, without a care for the associated increases in costs.

@Inkyminkyzizwoz Ай бұрын

It's not those things per se increasing the cost compared to other countries, it's the fact that elsewhere they'd be funded separately to the line itself

@simoncryer8172 Ай бұрын

@@Inkyminkyzizwoz My mistake- I thought there was more tunnelling and embankments to make the whole scheme more acceptable in the Chilterns. Maybe I'm wrong here.

@Inkyminkyzizwoz Ай бұрын

@@simoncryer8172There is - other mitigation factors such as bat houses and green bridges would be funded separately in other countries

@OldStoriesofNewcastle Ай бұрын

That is completely over engineered… same solution could have been delivered far cheaper. Look at the ridiculous depth of those beams to cross a twin track rail line.

@janeknight3597 Ай бұрын

Possibly but we will expect it to last for 100+ years and in 20 years time we will probably send Lorries over it. If you want to see over engineering look at Wallingford or Abingdon- all those water arches are actually needed.

@user-dp1tp8nm6b Ай бұрын

@@janeknight3597 yes, all bridges are designed for that sort of lifespan, and far smaller beams will carry full highway loading for HGVs

@flyDJIuk Ай бұрын

There is going to be hundreds of tonnes of earth etc. on top. That's why they're designed like this, is how I understand it.

@VictorHHH7 Ай бұрын

Who wants to live in a country that does everything on the cheap especially when you can build something you can be proud of

@Paul_Harper Ай бұрын

Such a shame you weren't on the design team. Your expertise would have been invaluable.

@GIOGS Ай бұрын

Shoutout to the unshowered vegans that have cost the UK millions by insisting some birds (who have wings) can cross over a railway

@user-od5tl9rx9v Ай бұрын

We could of had all of hs2 from London to Birmingham Manchester and Leeds if it weren't for all the tunneling or these bridges. I bet Spain and France don't worry about these silly green things

@frostdarren1390 Ай бұрын

What nonsense! no wonder they cut back on this project! just listen to these donuts talk! what propaganda!

@robbieshand6139 Ай бұрын

So how much was this bridge - another £100M like the bat shed? Or was it more? What an utterly ridiculous project this has become

@Inkyminkyzizwoz Ай бұрын

One of the reasons for the higher costs compared to other countries isn't these things per se, it's the fact that elsewhere they'd be funded separately to the line itself

@TrevorWilliams-fq8mg Ай бұрын

He's right. In Europe they only publish the cost of the track and stations. In Denmark they add in the trains. In China it's track and trains and planning conditions and compulsory land purchase doesn't exist. HS2 has 8,276 planning conditions to satisfy. If it were possible to do an accurate cost comparison there wouldn't be much difference in cost compared to elsewhere.