Hubitat Elevation C-8 Pro vs. The Competition: Best Home Automation Hub?

[@bbrendon]

I wonder how much of home assistant is used in hubitat.

[@SmartHomeJunky]

Why didn’t you use the Home Assistant Yellow as a comparison instead of the green?

[@DrFiero]

You forgot to compare it to Wink! Oh... wait.... hahahaha. :D

[@tonytango6676]

While there was some marketing fluff in there, that was a reasonably accurate summation of the other hubs. I am a grumpy software developer with 45 years experience so I’m not easy to please.😊

[@roll4stealth671]

I agree, the video was very good and yeah they were trying to subtly say theirs is the best option but they know the competition and what a lot of us do.

[@SolarizeYourLife]

Does it have matter yet???

[@philipperostin]

Yes

[@StefanWitkamp]

Curious which devices you're missing on Homey Pro? A year ago, when it was launched in the US, there were some brands and names missing, but it does feature an official integration with Tuya now, which I believe Hubitat doesn't, has proper integration for Zooz, Ecolink and even brands like Third Reality, and the list grows quite quickly, quite fast.

[@WarlockTheWeary]

Paul .. traditional Hubitat Elevation dashboards now support drag-and-drop!

[@ivanbaggett3303]

Good and fair comparison. As a long time HE user (C-5 at my office and home, C-8 Pro at my gf's home), I recently built my first Home Assistant system as a VM in Proxmox with passed-though USB sticks for Z-Wave and Zigbee. HA is all-powerful and flexible, but has a big learning curve. And getting good quality Z-Wave and Zigbee sticks with the right chipset and firmware is a lot of extra work and tedium. So I'd still recommend HE for anyone except the most fearless tech tinkering folks. If you want to include Bluetooth devices, you'll need HA (I passed the motherboard's BT radio through to the HA VM).

[@MrDiscoseeker]

My Hubitat elevation now no longer sees my sonoff temp monitors, worked happily for over 18 months. That’s a backwards regression and would now make sure I never confidently go down the Hubitat route again. Battery replacements and re-pairing only offer a very temporary solution.

[@byteptr]

Sonoff devices are junk. I constantly had problems with all different device types of theirs, to the point that I replaced all of them and my smart home is much more reliable. They are low priced for a reason.

[@MrDiscoseeker]

@@byteptr cheers for that info, what did you find to replace the sonoff sensors/devices?

[@byteptr]

@@MrDiscoseeker a few brands I like are thirdreality, aqara and zooz

[@KrisBenson79]

@@byteptr have you tried using something other than Hubitat to talk to them? Hubitat's communication with them is pathetic, but Zigbee2mqtt / Home Assistant does just fine.

[@KrisBenson79]

That's likely a Hubitat Zigbee radio issue, and why I gave up on Hubitat. See if they'll talk to zigbee2mqtt (one of the package that Home Assistant uses for Zigbee connectivity) -- I'm betting that'll solve your problem.

[@roll4stealth671]

I like this was a somewhat fair overview of everything. i cut my teeth on the first smartthings hub and eventually moved over to the C7 due to local processing and it just had more "features" and Phillips hue for the bulbs. I run that along with HA in one location and have Alexa integrated with that directly for processing and then I use HA for the dashboards and my Security system as I much prefer their dashboards compared to HE ones although I haven't played around enough with the new updated app. Now that I have another location, I've started adding more and more to it with mostly Phillips hue again and some wifi devices (due to no neutral wiring in the house) and automating things with HA but I didn't like you had to pay to use the voice assistants integration so I bought the C8Pro a couple days ago and it's currently on its way. Looking forward to setting this up again in new place and will play around with the automation within it and possibly free up my pi for something else maybe since we do primarily just use voice assistants to control everything anyway and very rare at my new place that I ever use the app, except to check programming.

[@GarNelson1]

I have a HE-C8-Pro. My only 'niggle' with it is trying to add my Aqara devices. Like Paul Hibbert wondered recently, 'why does Hubitat ignore Aqara'? It's not like Aqara is some minor device supplier... I still like my HE-C8-Pro, I just wish it was easier for my Aqara wall switches to do automations with my Philips downlights.

[@derekkchung]

Ok. I have z-wave wall switches, dimmers, plugs, and motion sensors. Then I also have wifi wall switches, motion sensors controlled by smart life + Google home. I have a HE C4 which is old. What should I do to have my wifi motion sensor controlling my z-wave switches or vice versa? None of my device are 1 yr or newer so they are not "matter".

[@dylan_00]

This all seems relatively accurate, especially the bit about "Home Assistant dashboards take a lot of time to put together". I spend hours redoing it (for fun, of course) every once in a while! However, I will say, Home Assistant has had Drag-n-Drop for a few months now (called "Sections"), so it has gotten quite a bit faster!

[@CalvinHenderson]

Why do your mobile app now requires internet access versus local access? I have dashboards that are local accessible ONLY and I no longer have access to them via mobile app with new version versus old app that is being discontinued.

[@antoniogsjordao]

Fantastic video!

[@robheyes6470]

Um, traditional Hubitat Elevation dashboards now also support drag-and-drop! 😜

[@harryanderson5090]

I agree with the HE vs HA elements. Pretty accurate. I prefer to write automations in HE but like the amazing dashboard options of HA, but it is a challenge to learn.

[@ypark2877]

Amazon echo has zigbee

[@kanga-who]

*some Amazon echo have zigbee

[@morris5984]

@@kanga-who along with Alexa randomly advertising some BS. I use to love Alexa devices but I feel like they are spending more time on their advertising algorithms than user experience. But to each their own.

[@7_of_9]

I hope you guys work with Yale lock to make the zwave connectivity reliable ❤

[@tonytango6676]

My Yale,YRD216 With Zed wave has worked just fine for me for at least four years. Mind you with the distance from the hub to the lock is only about 20 feet. Do you have a Zed wave repeater in the middle or a device such as a switch with a Z wave controller that also works as a repeater?

[@Bigglare]

Its too bad that Hubitat doesn't function as Matter bridge to integrate with other Matter ecosystems locally. Its also a major issue that Hubitat does not support Matter bridges, an integral part of the matter standard. Using Matter bridges, you can take existing protocols like Zigbee paired with a Hue bridge or Ikea Dirigera for example and integrate those devices locally without any cloud functions or need for subscription based cloud access. Using a Zigbee/Matter bridge also eliminates the need for custom device drivers that are a necessary evil to use most common zigbee devices that are not supported in hubitat without.

[@urbanelemental3308]

Love my Hubitat.

[@Jost2011]

I've chosen Hubitat Elevation because of _Groovy_ - I love this programming language! 😊 However I added Home Assistent Green to my Home Automation System for a handful of devices not supported by HE (thanx HE-HA-Bridge). 😎

[@MbySK]

Smartthings communicate and do routine locally. Just FYI

[@HATipsByLarry]

The best proprietary hub is no proprietary hub. That's why Home Assistant on ANY old PC you have laying around your house is the best hands down. No contest.

[@sen-sai1342]

Homey pro is 100% local ffs nooblets. Basically all references to Homey pro are made out of thin air.. On the market for over 4 year. New to the market? This whole video is just one big sales promo based on nothing.

[@chimpo131]

looks like a 🗑️ implementation. please get some real developers to have it work properly before trying to get it out😂

[@waqasahmed939]

Tbh it'd be nice to get these smart devices freaking standardised. Things should "just work"