Huge Bang for the Buck! Willsenton R8 tube Integrated amp review.

#hifi #audiophile #amplifier #stereo #Integrated amp #tubes
This unit was sent to me by china-hifi-audio.com
Non-affiliated link : $768.68 USD + about $300 shipping to US.
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Gear used in this review :
Focal Sopra 2 speakers
Silverline Sonata speakers
Magnepan LRS speakers
Qacoustic Concept 500
Harbeth C7ES-3
Verity Audio Fidelio encore speakers
Exasound E28 DAC
Matrix Mini Pro 3 DAC
KT88 tubes
6550 tubes
EL34 tubes
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[@gertjanvanderkooij9242]

I bought one and came in yesterday,and is now sounding already very good.The sound is still improving.It is a top quality tube amp.

[@robk5745]

Sounds like a really fun amp, I’ll get into tubes later on, now I leave my gear on all day everyday and have little kids so it just doesn’t fit the bill. Great Review Thomas, I always feel confident knowing what to expect with gear after I hear you talk about it 🙏

[@mikejungle]

Your delivery is like that of a popular professor: clear, concise, and entertaining, for a subject that could be boring.

[@Ninja_S1000RR-R]

I really appreciate your reviews. You speak like a real enthusiast, and not like someone in the marketing department.

[@chrismacdonald4570]

Great review as always Thomas. But in this video it was your sweater that really Moooooooooooooved me.

[@magic3817]

Thanks Thomas! I have been patiently waiting for your impression of the R8. I have been enjoying my R8 for four months now. It’s my first tube amplifier. I have conditioned my listening room to moderate the bass somewhat. All in all I like the fat, warm sound. Lately I have been playing live recordings (Latin, rock, blues, soul) cd and vinyl and listening to classical and jazz fm radio. Hearing the room the performance took place in is a critical experience I am seeking. The R8 delivers. It has been fun tuning in the speaker placement as the 3D effect is good. I plan to keep it stock for at least a year before playing around with tube swapping. The R8 is an outstanding value! I no longer seek the latest and greatest gear. Value and performance are now my gold standard.

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Congrats on your purchase and most importantly, you are really enjoying it.

[@johngerondeanos9603]

Thanks for the great revues, I ordered a Willsenton R8 from China Hi Fi in mid November and it arrived in South Africa 10 days later which is excellent service for shipping to South Africa. I had bought this on the recommendation of The next best thing, Jay, as your review had not yet aired. I am very happy with my purchase and yes I prefer the ultra linear mode. I have the stock KT88 and 6SN7 and 6SL7 tubes. The KT88 are great but I replaced the 6SN7 with NOS Raytheon 6SN7GTB and the 6SL7 with NOS SYLVANIA 6SL7WGTB. This has brought the amp to life and makes it very easy and plesent to listen to.

[@Test-id6ns]

I appreciate your balanced style Thomas, great job again

[@TuiCatNZ]

These are the type of products i want to buy from China. Well made, low tech, and from passionate small companies.

[@dougg1075]

We are all brothers in the hobby:)

[@vintagestereo]

This amplifier is just perfect, the sound is absolutely fantastic, I hope that willsenton will bring the same thing out with 2 huge vu meters. Than this product would be my amp forever.

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Nice, I enjoy your videos too.

[@wingedwheel2797]

Was going to buy this today but wasn’t prepared for questions they asked me about which tubes I wanted and about hand wiring? Have no idea ! I listen exclusively to classical and jazz at moderate levels. No rock. And hand wiring advantages ??? No idea ! If it makes a difference then I’m in. This is my price range , on fixed income. I know this is subjective and there is no “best” . Any advise is appreciated. Thank You !

[@Blah-blah-sure]

How this amp holding up?

[@shingnosis]

Very good and balanced review with lots of insight, this channel has come a long way.

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Glad you think so!

[@ganziyang82]

Hello Thomas, I’ve not watched your videos for a long time and chanced upon this one today. Video and audio quality and your review presentation has improved so much. I enjoyed it very much. Thank you!

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Awesome, thank you!

[@54tristin]

There’s always the most professional reviews on the Internet

[@markboyd934]

Agree with you. My favorite reviewer on the internet.

[@nathanc6516]

Just purchased this amp, and I appreciate the in depth review. This gives me some things to think about while I wait for it to arrive. I think the ultralinear mode sounds better in your demo, but you didn't mention if you were using the kt88s or the el34s. Either way, thanks for getting into some good details about using it, especially about running a DAC through the pre-amp. This amp seems like it's going to be a lot of fun.

[@ThomasAndStereo]

It was recorded using KT88.

[@EsotericArctos]

EL34's are warmer than the KT88's/ KT88's give better Ultra Linear performance though. I guess this is very subjective though and depends on your personal taste, the design of your room and the speakers you use. If you have a sparkly speaker that is very bright on the top, the EL34's may sound better as they are warmer. Same with using Triode wired mode vs Ultra Linear

[@JC-rl1fe]

Great review. I bought the R8. Arrived yesterday. So far, excellent. Looking forward to the review that you mentioned of the various tube options.

[@melomaniacspodcast1105]

After dozens of different varieties in both the preamp and power stages, this thing really shines with Russian nos otk tubes in the preamp section and SED 6550’s in power stage. Klipsch Rp-160m speakers. Bluesound node 2i for streaming. Fluance Rt-85 turntable with Les Box Yaqin ms-23b phono preamp. Best part is the ability to roll so many types of tubes in this amp.

[@TorToroPorco]

Great review Thomas, your ability to articulate the nuances of this unit is invaluable. I’m glad you chose not to use the phrase giant killer otherwise I would have thrown a bowl of chicken rice at my TV (although I would have to find a recipe first). I also appreciate your criteria for choosing what devices to review. Those of us on smaller budgets don’t have the resources to try new gear on a whim and this unit being an affordable standout gives us the chance to try the tube sound without feeling buyer’s remorse.

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Yeah, this amp does everything well but not excellent but that in itself is quite an accomplishment given its price. To do everything excellent would be amps costing many times its price.

[@theaudiophilebarista2424]

Listening to this review via the Willsenton R8. Very good 😀

[@ThomasAndStereo]

I enjoyed your review too.

[@theaudiophilebarista2424]

@@ThomasAndStereo Thank you, much appreciated 👍

[@CUDAbuster]

Great review. Nice that you introduced a decent product that a lot of people probably didn't know about and gives an adorable way to try a tube setup.

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Thanks, it is crazy how much performance we can get today with a reasonable budget.

[@CUDAbuster]

I think that tube amp would sound phenomenal on my Cornwall IIIs. I always preferred the sound of tube amps, but liked the reliability of solid state. With today's DACs and solid-state, the holographic sound of a tube amp can be closely, simulated, but you are stuck with that sound unlike an actual tube amp you can roll. My favorite one is the MC275 based on looks and sound, but that's a 7K+ beast. I agree that weight equals grades (at least that is what one professor always reminded us before turning in a report). Nice that they can build this budget tubie that stout.

[@ThomasAndStereo]

@@CUDAbuster Man, I would love to try the MC275 one day.

[@gregasajn698]

Thanks to this review and to the fact that it can be used as power amp as well I bought r8. Customer service was excellent, bank transfer took only 1 day (it is cheaper to pay via bank) r8 was shipped in 1 week and it took 3 days from Honk Kong to Ljubljana. I ordered EL34 tubes and it sounds silky-smooth. Amazing product specially considering the price!

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Great to hear!

[@redstarwraith]

Excellent review, Thomas. I always wonder what I'm going to learn from any reviewer who chooses to review a well-reviewed piece. Well, the times when you've been that person you have never disappointed.

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Thanks for the feedback and watching.

[@dinsy512]

I agree, Thomas puts in a lot of effort to come at things from different perspectives and really search for what is unique about gear.

[@juliodejesus1532]

Thomas just saw your Willsenton R8 . You have Willsenton Kt88 and Psvane 6sn8 and 6sl7 . I changed the KT88 to Shuguang 50th Anniversary EL34. The 6sn8 to Shuguang CV181z and the 6sl7 to Tung-sol 6sl7GT. The upgrade is amazing . You must tried this combo the dynamics are thru the roof the clarity superb and the voice spot on the middle. I used to have Sonus Faber Venere 3.0 and decided to sell them. I found a pair of Boston Acoustics VR3 and WOW. I hope you can experience this sound. I have always been a tube man. Conrad Premier 12, Audio Research Classic 150. Cary Audio, Convergent technologies, Jadis Defy 7 and Pre (my favorite) but this amp and money get out of town!!!

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Nice nice! Thanks for sharing. I do have some CV181z, let me put them in the R8.

[@kendallhuseman3685]

Interesting. Ultraliner makes it sound like there is a time decay effect. Makes it seem like it has more depth in the sound at the end. Love how you do the comparisons. I am using their Reisong Amp and I am extremely satisfied.

[@jram9571]

Excellent amp with good looks to match. Sounds great with my Harbeths. Highly recommend

[@zeissiez]

May I know which Harbeths model did you refer to ?

[@altabriziyehya4735]

I love how you don’t wast our time and you start the video right away no ps.

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Thanks, yeah I wanted to quickly answer that question.

[@terrywho22]

Funny you should say that. I enjoy hearing Thomas' opinions, but man does he drag these vids out. It's 5 min of talk/info in 15 minutes. Thank goodness for the playback speed setting in KZbin. 1.25x or even 1.5x makes these much more enjoyable.

[@ThomasAndStereo]

@@terrywho22 That is a good idea! Run it at faster speed.

[@terrywho22]

​@@ThomasAndStereo For sure. The info is great, its just the pace.

[@davidwilliams3376]

I would very much like to see a head to head with this and the Muzishare X7. Great channel - Thank you.

[@RetroworksMusic]

Me too I'm.Considering both

[@AMan-wu8eg]

Those Q Acoustics look incredible in silver! I have them in black, and regret not getting those... Superb speakers!

[@tbear2327]

I own them in black too. A dusting nightmare, but the sound is so so good.

[@Nightjar726]

Love your videos. The way you articulate and present. Very good. I have a Rega amp and a pair of Proac DT8’s. I would like to try a tube amp but with my OCDness from my guitar tube amps I’m afraid I’m going to spend most my time swapping and rolling tubes. I will try a stereo tube amp one day for sure tho.

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Yeah, one day when you are ready.

[@janeiroyoshi]

Great review Thomas, like always! Can you review the Willsenton 300b? im really interested in that product, but cant find any review :(

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Ah, maybe later as I have already 3 other amps in for review.

[@zeissiez]

You must make sure your speaker is very efficient for that amp. Otherwise the R800 is a better choice.

[@janpedersen8376]

@@zeissiez I can highly recomend the R800i 300B 805a especially with some better tubes

[@seabastia]

You say 6SL7 control tonality, then what is the role of 6SN7 ? (since you decided to swap/upgrade them during your test)

[@budgetaudiophilelife-long5461]

You keep getting better with your reviews😊 SERIOUSLY Maybe someday I will be able to try a tube amp This might be the one😊

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Thanks! Yeah one day you should give it a try.

[@frankgeeraerts6243]

Very intelligent approach of your review of this amplifier ! UL-mode is only ultra-linear in a restricted excursion on the curves when driven by a signal on the grid of the tubes / those UL curves of a UL mode tube amplifier, when swinging beyond that limited range make the signal swing on these curves between penthode and a triode " sound " character !!! One can only optimize the characteristics/performance of an output stage for a given mode . A real triode amplifier will outclass any amp with switched mode operation. The same observations apply if the choice is given to switch between Class AB and Class A-mode on the same amplifier........Only one mode can be really/fully optimized BUT yes , one can prefer one of these modes when a choice is optional on an amplifier, ....... in function of the kind of music one is listening to ...voices; Quartet, jazz or rock , etc....you will prefer one or another operation mode......sometimes the speaker can decide the choice..... Hissing tube......to be explored ( tube or circuit) ............Nos tubes can change a lot especially on the first amplification stages..........One tube at the imput can make a HUGE difference, for better or for worse. I like your videos because they are close to what audiophiles can experience when listening....and are more realistic than numbers on glossy papers... Have a nice day.

[@MomchilNikolovPhoto]

Thomas, thank you for the detailed review! I am wondering - have you come across the Muzishare X7? Very similar price, features, build quality etc with the Willsenton R8. Would be interested to know if they are comparable in terms of sound quality, or quite different?

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Sorry never heard it.

[@zeissiez]

The R8 is two amps in one (KT88, EL34) while the X7 is a KT88 amp.

[@jerryjazzbo2845]

These small (but passionate) companies are showing us that the big brand names are charging consumers TOO MUCH.

[@altontakata4402]

I bought the Willsenton R8 because of the many positive reviews. Had to be Thomas , to put all the features into perspective. Order out of Chaos. Love the way you put things Thomas. Thank You ....

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Thanks Alton, hope you are enjoying the music with it.

[@Boss-wy2ch]

Thanks Thomas, as usual you've provided another stellar review! I've had mine for a month or so now, I have not yet slid down the tube rolling slope but will do. I find the Willsenton Tubes good, but i've no experience in comparisons. I bought it with KT88s as I listen to mostly metal and some blues and bit of jazz. The bass punch of the KT88 is perfect for me. Great depth and width in soundstage and lots of air, that 3D imaging people talk about. The difference between TR/UL is night and day as you said, the vocalist is singing (yelling in my musical taste) 2 rows infront of you or situated on stage front and centre depending which mode you choose. Its fantastic. I use it with an Oppo 205 and also an ARES II for digital and for vinyl I have a few phono stages and carts that I use and its supurb on all platforms. Buying from Yong was easy and his communication was flawless, I chose sea mail as it was quite a bit cheaper and I was in no rush, from China to Australia shipping is $$$$ for a heavy beast like this...the smell of paint when I opened the box indicated to me this was a fresh amp!!!! And yes, I too am of the school that heavier somehow means quality haha, so when I nearly did my back lifting it I had positive expectations already. Will wait for the review on the tube rolling and venture down the path most suitable to my tastes. Thanks and Cheers.

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Yeah, I thought it smelled like glue when I first got it. The tubes that came with it is pretty decent already. Sure, if you change tubes, it will further improve it but the improvement margin is not as big as the Cayin CS55A for example.

[@JetEarlewood]

I need to read/hear about this amp driving Small Maggie’s.

[@ulrichgorlich6292]

Thank you for this review very good. I would you like to know why the Magnepan didn't work out with this amp?

[@tzenlip]

Thanks again for a great review ! Someone Knowledgable in the hifi forums confirms that the pre-in does not bypass the preamp tubes . I also noticed that the noise floor is higher using pre-in mode.

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Thanks for the info!

[@nathanas64]

Outstanding review!

[@danielgrossman3956]

On the same strand of craft Chinese valve amps - I'd be really keen to see you review the Line Magnetic LM-34IA!!

[@chrisgoodson9312]

I bought one of these on a wim a few weeks back after seeing a great review by another Canadian KZbinr (Yes him!) After I placed my order including shipping and Tubes upgrades it was a little north of £1000. I thought to myself, what have I just done? That's crazy! 2 Weeks later it arrived, air shipping is expensive as hell by the way. Anyway, I'm so far loving my purchase and don't regret it one little bit. I've got a feeling I'm going to be doing some tube rolling next year which could impact my wallet quite a bit. But in the meantime I'm just enjoying my purchase!

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Thanks Chris for sharing your experience. Enjoy the music.

[@legrandmaitre7112]

How much was the shipping Chris? I'm also in the UK.

[@chrisgoodson9312]

@@legrandmaitre7112 2 Options Air £200.00 (days)/£90.00 by Land (Weeks)

[@trekjudas]

IT'S ME! I'm the guy who prefers this to a Macintosh!

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Yup, thanks for sharing your story so I could include it in the video.

[@trekjudas]

@@ThomasAndStereo thank you for mentioning me!!

[@trekjudas]

@Ali miah ABSOLUTELY!!! My Harbeth speakers are somewhat smooth but they’re not dull and lifeless!!

[@dannyng5427]

I will try EL34 tubes

[@trekjudas]

@@dannyng5427 I got some relatively expensive KT88 tubes but I really prefer the EL34s.

[@garymoore3497]

I was looking for my next amplifier project when I saw this. Yes, is very affordable. I still might build one with design upgrades, including variable control from full triode mode to full ultra linear mode. Also, use bias adjust from KT88 to other power tubes not required. combination bias circuit can automatically accommodate this range of output tubes.......I also notice no BITE (Built-In-Test) on this rig either.....

[@JulieTech]

Thank you Thomas, I've been waiting for this...

[@JulieTech]

Can you do on Sound Artist SH10B Horn speaker as well and Kinki Studio EX-M+..... Thanks in advance..

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Hope you enjoyed it!

[@ThomasAndStereo]

I will be stopping for a while in late Jan so I am not taking anything for now.

[@ibdam1]

Thomas, have you had a chance to listen to the Decware Zen Triode Tub Amplifier? It’s around $1000.00.

[@kenwk2283]

No way 1st he does not like low power amps, second not sure 2 watts amp has enough juice for his speakers

[@matthewyih3302]

PrimaLuna is pretty overpriced as well, just look at Cayin (their OEM in China)

[@ThomasAndStereo]

No I have not and it looks really cool. I think Steve reviewed it and really like it.

[@WhiteBubblySoup]

The decware may not be apples to apples because its so much less power

[@boysiedent6149]

IN JUST OVER ONE MONTH - I WILL BE (80 YEAR OLD) - THE SIGHT OF AN AUDIO AMPLIFIERS BUILD WITH (KT88 AND EL34 ) - ALMOST GAVE ME A / HEART ATTACK / - IN MY EARLY YEARS AS A (AUDIO TECHNICIAN) - I BUILT AND REPAIRED VERY MANY AMPLIFIERS WITH THESE OUTPUT VALVES AND ALSO (*807) - WITH THE ANODE ON TOP - WITH (GZ34) REGULATOR AND (6N7) AND PHILLIPS EL86 - ETC ETC - I ALSO MADE THE METAL CASE TO HOUSE THE TUBES - REPAIRED / REWIND BLOWN SPEAKERS - DESIGNED SUITABLE POWER SUPPLIES - MADE SPEAK ENCLOSURES - THESE VIDEOS ARE UNBELIEVABLE BECAUSE THEY HAVE BROUGHT BACK TO LIFE SOME MUCH OF MY EARLY YEARS IN THE AUDIO BUSINESS - I EVEN CAN REMEMBER TE LAST DISASTER - WHEN I TRIED TO REPAIR A 300 WATT AMPLIFIER AND MY UPPER ARM TOUCHED THE ANODE ON TOP OF TWO (807'S) - THE BURNS LASTED MONTHS - THIS WAS IN 1961 I HAVE NOT SEEN THESE BEAUTIES FOR OVER (50 YEARS) - AND WILL BE OBLIDGED TO DOWNLOAD AND / KEEP THESE EXCELLENT VIDEOS / I MOST CERTAINLY WISH THAT IT COULD BE POSSIBLE TO SEE AND HEAR THESE GEMS AGAIN - THAT WOULD CERTAINLY BE A DELIGHTFUL EXPERIENCE

[@jonaspedersen178]

Nice rewiew, Thomas (as always). Helped me convince myself to take the plunge into the tube world with the R8. And I've not regretted it one bit. 😁👍 At some point you teased a rewiew of the Wharfedale Evo 4.4 speakers. I run those speakers with the R8, and to my ears, that is a solid combination. Does everything pretty well, and at a reasonable price - much like you described the R8. I would love to hear your thourghts on those pieces of gear together. By the way, I ordered the R8 with stock Willsenton tubes (EL34s for power). I now run new production Tung-Sol 6SN7 and 6sl7 and a quad of Genalex Gold KT77. That to me is the sweet spot between the "pure fun" stock tubes bring and more definition in highs and lows. :-) Thank you for your interesting videos - keep posting! 👍

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Thanks for the feedback. Evo 4.4, yeah I asked for it but they sent me the Elysian 4 instead.

[@jonaspedersen178]

@@ThomasAndStereo I know man, have seen your Elysian review several times. Great review as well.👍 But the Elysians are somewhat out of my pricerange. "Alas, you have become too influential, or my wallet too thin". 😁

[@TheTruth-dm8wd]

So I have the R8 with EL34s and currently is incorporated into a vintage Marantz system so just using the amp section from the R8. Is paired up with the Marantz 3650 and all together sounds fantastic. Obviously a different more pleasant and fun sound than when I use the Marantz 300DC with the 3650 with all other components the same but. I ran the R8 by itself on the same speakers using all it's functionality so appears that the pre-amp section is the R8's weakness out of the box. I also ran the R8 amp section with my McIntosh C22 preamp and is not a fair comparison with the far superior (far more expensive) MC275 MKVI. The R8 is a great value, very enjoyable and I can listen to it for hours without fatigue. Looking forward to experimenting with other tubes and experience the differences.

[@trekjudas]

After watching this video I decided to put the KT88 tubes and switch to triode. The EL34 sound more exciting but the KT88s are more refined and image better.

[@ThomasAndStereo]

My apologies for deleting comments where people expressed their political views. This is not a channel for that. We are here as passionate audiophiles. Non affiliated link : www.china-hifi-audio.com/en The preamp I used that changed the sound was Burmester and Moon P5.3. The Freya did not change the sound a lot. You can try with you DAC to see if there is a difference but an external preamp should make more of a difference. Please share your experience of your R8.

[@andrewyoungblood5434]

How does it compare to the Cayin CS-55A? Is that amp worth the extra money?

[@ThomasAndStereo]

@@andrewyoungblood5434 The Cayin is a more neutral with better definition in the bass but lacks the balls of the R8. For some people, the Cayin will be boring relatively speaking. For people who want to hear more 'detail' and want more refinement, the Cayin is better. Cayin is like wine while R8 is like beer. Keep in mind the Cayin has a built-in Phono stage and DAC so the price difference, although big is not that big.

[@andrewyoungblood5434]

@@ThomasAndStereo great thank you so much for the detailed reply. I enjoy learning from you!

[@andrewyoungblood5434]

Is there a Cayin alternative tube amp without the dac/phono stage perhaps? I don’t need those built-in. I’ve reviewed there whole line up but it was confusing for me...:)

[@fishingbear69]

@@ThomasAndStereo now ,now can one place kt88 tubes on the cayin or kt 150s ? Wen you stated that the cs-55 A cayin could be a little boring ,but are you not referring as with the stocked tubes it comes with only ? Or im i wrong ?, thanks tomas nice video.,,and I have heard alot of good talks on the raven tube amps, nighthawk, and there Blackhawk as well ?

[@thevintageaudiolife]

Thank you for sharing, very interesting and informative, just uploaded a few of my hand crafted tube Amps. I enjoy learning more about the world of tube Audio!

[@mphosikhosana3685]

Great review as usual. 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 Please review the Icon Audio Stereo 60.

[@ThomasAndStereo]

If they reach out to me.

[@papermoonmarc]

What about the Muzishare x7? Same price point. Thats the comparison people want. Wilsenton r8 vs Muzishare x7. Inquiring minds want to know.

[@ThomasAndStereo]

I have never tried the X7 so I don't know but on my community page, someone broke down the difference.

[@stevenzurn8070]

I would also like to know. I have the Muzishare and I'm loving it. It's also way easier to purchase as it's shipped from Amazon's warehouse. I got mine in two days!

[@rhwinner]

I had a big powerful tube amp for many years so I have some experience to share. If you're the kind of person who likes to leave his amp on all day or all night be prepared to be buying tubes frequently. And the ones that burn out quickest are the big expensive power tubes. On a push pull amp they have to be replaced in pairs, costing at least $60 for the pair or $120 for the full complement. And I'm not even talking about boutique tubes, which the sky's the limit. Just be prepared to open your wallet frequently to replace these tubes.

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Yeah, one of the downside of owning amps is the tubes need to be replaced. For someone who always keep their amp on, solidstate might be a better solution. I think these tubes can last for a few thousand hours so for normal use, its reasonable.

[@DBravo29er]

I think it depends on the exact amp design and how high the designer runs the plate voltage. I have a few friends like you who experienced short tube life. But I have many others that experience more than 20k hours/tube without issue.

[@DBravo29er]

@Douwe Bloot I leave my Line Magnetic LM805IA on for about 12 hours a day. Playing music during the day and watching TV at night. Have many friends with LM845IA amps (using 845 output tubes) or the 805 tubes like mine (both made by PS Vane for LM) that have over 10k hours with ZERO bias adjustments required. That’s 2.2 years of 12hrs/day operation. Agree with Thomas that solid state would likely be easier for those who leave their stuff on 24/7. However, understand that electrolytic capacitors are going to start needing attention at the 10k hour mark if they are in the cheaper side, 85C rated, or both. Many data sheets for 85C caps show ratings in the 2500 hour range.

[@crazyprayingmantis5596]

I leave my tube amp on 24/7, haven't changed a tube in 4yrs

[@rhwinner]

@@crazyprayingmantis5596 You must have magic tubes!

[@joelnorris4064]

Thomas, great review! I agree with your assessment of the sound and problems. I love my R8 and use it often. When I want more detail, I rotate in a solid state amp. The ability to roll tubes makes this amp change on a regular basis. I think of this as a pinot noir, the flavor changes every time you roll a tube. This allows changing tubes instead of buying a new amplifier. Your comments on preference is the most important for our hobby! Everyones ears are different.

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Thanks for sharing!

[@HoomanR17]

Joel, I'm asking this question as a novice, can you tube roll this amp to match your solid state amp in terms of detail?

[@joelnorris4064]

@@HoomanR17 Probably not! I can get close, but the loss of harshness and the 3 D sounds makes the tube amp frequently more enjoyable to listen to. My solid state amps are also much more expensive. If your budget allows, get a tube and a solid state amp and enjoy both. I am running two systems at all times so it is easy for me. I have a second tube amp which is 5 times more expensive and the Willsenton sounds better to me. The Willsenton with a good front end makes a beautiful sound with good detail and tone.

[@ThomasAndStereo]

@@HoomanR17 Detail is not an issue with tube gear. Floor noise and bass control is where solid state has an edge but not detail.

[@HoomanR17]

@@ThomasAndStereo helpful for someone like me who has yet to experience Tube amplification.

[@dominicvalois]

Very interesting review Thomas!! I never owned a tube amplifier but I would really love to try one eventually on my setup. Some of my friends swears by tubes.

[@noahhill1380]

Hey Thomas, great review. So I purchased the Willsenton 300b tube amp because of all the glowing (pun intended) reviews of the R8 and holy mole!! I was blown away, if you haven't heard this amp you owe yourself a listen asap!

[@noahhill1380]

I should also add I have owned a Primaluna Dialogue 2 for 12 years and was still impressed!

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Thanks for the info! Glad you enjoy it, 300B is like one of the best for vocals.

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Wow, that really says a lot.

[@joemartin6439]

Thomas my integrated tube amp is an Audio Space AS- 3i. It main characteristic is involving boggy you along in the music. I switched EL34’s for KT- 77 and it is a dream with my Casta C Horn speakers

[@lutzhennecke6929]

I'm using the octave V40SE and now I'm using the power tube KT88 from PSVANE MK2. For the preamp the tubes are already exchanged. The difference to the original is huge and a nice and simple thing with the Octave. The tubes can be adjusted easily with a potentiometer. But I would like to try the KR Audio KT88 again with the next change. Best regards from Germany.

[@chelsea21092]

Hi Thomas Very pleased with the sound of my R8 and the exemplary customer service from China Hi-Fi. Stock tubes btw are pretty reasonable, but swapped them all out for a complete set of Tung-Sol's with excellent results. Also love the practicality of the built in biasing option...it just makes complete sense. Using amp with Aune S8 dac with op-amp rolled to Sonic Imagery Labs Model 994Enh with wonderful results. Just waiting for my upgraded Aune power supply now for the icing on the cake. Just shows you don't have to spend a fortune on esoteric gear to get truly outstanding results. Not sure if I need to explore KT88 option (but I probably will).

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Yeah, the KT88 will give you a completely different sound so definitely worth trying in the future. Do you mean AUNE X8? I think the S8 cannot change op amps. I just got the S8 in for review and really impressive.

[@chelsea21092]

@@ThomasAndStereo Yep...apologies its the X8

[@Activation1111]

Great video. Could you review on OMA Speakers, Amps & turn tables. As well as Fleetwood Sound Co speakers, turn tables & Amps. I like your show & reviews. Thank you.

[@moon-light1354]

Thanks Thomas for another great review, I been reading about the R8 for some time now and your take on this amp confirms what I have been reading, If I purchase this I will be running it with my Freya + that you also reviewed, Looking forward to your tube video on the R8. Thanks...

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Interestingly when I tried it with the Freya, the difference is not that big. It was with my Burmester preamp that made the biggest difference. Loic was using a Moon preamp with it.

[@moon-light1354]

Hey Thomas, what's your take on the WILLSENTON R-300B SINGLE-ENDED INTEGRATED TUBE AMPLIFIER FULLY BALANCED CLASS A, This unit has balanced XLR that I could utilize with my Freya +. The 300 B cost a little more but I'm not sure if it's worth it or not. Thanks..

[@audiomacaudiomac5019]

Have you tried using your Freya connected to this as an amp? To me, it sounds very balanced. The bass is tight and defined. My only problem is I get a little tiny hum, I think from the Freya. I tried different power conditioners but it would not go away. What should I try next?

[@hbchristmas5352]

Willsenton R-35I EL34 I have this model. I think it is great for the money. Extremely quite even with my tekton Moab at 99db.

[@TheMaddog809]

Hey Tom, great review 👍 I'm getting ready to pull the trigger on the R8, can you please tell me what bulbs you were using in the video? Thank you again!

[@crimsonghost6454]

Thanks Thomas. I love your vids man...

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Glad you like them!

[@1968krug]

Thomas great vid thank you. I’ve watched a lot of your clips, no doubt in my mind you’re excited about this amp. I wonder what kind of speakers would be the best match for this amp?

[@ThomasAndStereo]

There is no best match but in theory, the more efficient the speaker the better chance of a good match you get.

[@bencausey]

Very good review. Thank you.

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Thanks for watching!

[@daveb9930]

I've had my R8 for almost a year now and I'm just getting into tube rolling. I ordered the set of pre amp tubes from China Hifi recommended by Mr. Lee { Looks like he sent you the same set } The new tubes have about 20hrs. on them and the soundstage is really starting to open up. New Kt88 power tubes should be arriving any day. Looking forward to your next video.

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Was it he 6SL7? I find it sharper and more clarity.

[@daveb9930]

I installed the two Shu Guang WE6SL7 Plus tubes and the three Psvane CV181-Tii tubes at the same time so I don't know how each set of tubes affected the sound on their own. When I get a chance I'll stick the stock 6SL7's back in and see. Right now I'm enjoying the sound of my records so much I don't want to change anything. LOL@@ThomasAndStereo

[@slowestrider4918]

@@daveb9930 Would you share how you like the Psvan and Shuguang? More dynamic? Lower noise? TIA.

[@audio_friend]

Hi Thomas thank you so much for your great review! After this video I am really considering purchasing this amp. Do you think it would make a good match with a pair of Wharfedale Lintons' or would it sound better with a more modern sounding speaker like Borea BR08? Is there any speaker you would suggest in the same price range for a good sound stage/detail balance?!

[@jaytorr6701]

Great review Thomas. Out of the tube amps within this price range you have reviewed , which one you would say had the more holographic imaging? I am looking to buy one around 1000, dollars and 3d imaging is my main desired feature. Many thanks for the wonderful review

[@ThomasAndStereo]

That is the thing, there are no other tube integrated amp in this price range I have tried.

[@DBravo29er]

So much tuning ability with NOS 6SL7 tubes. That image can be adjusted front/back, or narrow/wide very easily with some 50’s tubes that cost less than $50/tube for tested 6SL7/VT-229 tubes.

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Yes, that is the great part about this amp, the tubes are popular and easy to find NOS.

[@itsGnTO]

Hi Thomas, amazing reviews always. I purchased the Sound Artist S5B from China HiFi as a test to see the quality before I purchase the R8. These speakers sound great but not as good as the Walsh Ohms at medium to high volume. R8 will be ordered this week..... George

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Hope it lives up to your expectation.

[@christinearmington]

Can these tubes drive the Ohm Walsh?

[@stevevickers9805]

Hi , compliments on your excellent reviews, would love to see a review of the Doge 5 which is at/near the price point of the Willsenton R8

[@jonshimamoto2710]

On a side note, I am using four NOS GE EL134 along with three vintage French Neotron 6SN7s. I am still looking around for 6SL7 replacements.

[@johnsweda2999]

hi, You can use kt77 as a straight swap for el34 plus you could put a solid Bridge rectifier in a tube instead of the the valve rectifier will strengthen up the bass make it faster sounding overall do you know what it's THD is in both settings

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Yes, I need to try that one day.

[@Welcome2Niches]

Ngl that's some beautiful packing. (worked for yrs at a UPS Store so I get excited ab things like that lmao)

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Lol!

[@RUScrew23]

Great review Thomas. would this amp be a good match with the Focal Aria 948 ? 3 way floor standing with sensitivity: 92.5 dB

[@ThomasAndStereo]

There is a slight chance it can be a bit on the bright side with Focal.

[@goldenearaudioreview4904]

Oh, that is exciting. I really want to try tubes out but haven't wanted to spend the premium on the really expensive gear.

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Yeah, at $1k ish, I think it is 'affordable' but you do get a lot for the money.

[@shanec6664]

Have you considered a tube pre amp first ? I was thinking the same might get a project tube box s2

[@elvisdioso6196]

With this R8 what is the advisable output wattage of speakers needed on this / Power Handling of each speakers

[@gerbanito1]

Great review thomas. I might get one for my second system. However i am searching for a preamp for my first system and was looking at the audio-gd r28, any chance to get a review on that one? Cheers and keep up the good work!

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Thanks, I have never listened to that DAC.

[@Toogoodtobetrue458]

I think u blew up their website- it was down a little bit 😂, good vid.

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Lol. Thanks.

[@Koru-Health]

Enjoyed the video. You said the R8 rivals competitors at the same price point, would that include Line Magnetic and Yaqin or are those similar?

[@ThomasAndStereo]

The Yaqin I tried are lower level and those are not holographic. Line Magnetic I have never heard but lots of good review on those.

[@piphelix2517]

Damn!! My man’s got a new camera, a new house, AND a new sweater! 🔥

[@patrickmccrank8414]

I would also like to see a review or comparison to the "Kingko KA101 pro".

[@turhanwoo]

I purchased r8 with kt88 just for curiosity.I am using Luxman sq38u for the past 15 years purchased at US$2300. Luxman is using 4 EL 34 tubes. I did a sound comparison with both using Speaker TAD tsm300 and LS3/5a. And found that they sound exactly same. I am a little surprised 😂.

[@t.j.bennett6454]

Do you still get the 3d soundstage if you bypass the pre and use dac volume?

[@georgekrutz8292]

I am struggling between the R8 and the Muzishare X7. Both have received positive reviews and are similarly priced. Have you had a chance to listen to the Muzishare?

[@Tahitian58]

Thomas why did you not change the 6SN7 tubes for NOS like you did in the Schiit Freya+? Thank you for all you do!

[@byronb.]

Interesting. Jay's review was so overwhelming positive, while this review is positive but much more measured. Sounds like one of the many ELAC Debut speaker reviews. Sounds good... for the money.

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Sounds really good for the money.

[@lampham244]

Is it matched well with KEF R3. Thanks

[@rob6504]

Would i be able to preamp out from a receiver to my front mains utilizing this tube amp? I listen to both 2 channel as well as 7.2 surround. Also would subwoofers work with this tube amp? I have martin logan depth i's. My receiver does have separate dual subwoofer outs

[@kouichi4]

Just want to share that grado hemp headphones sound really good on R8.

[@joshuaschneck]

Hi Thomas. Thanks for the helpful videos. I'm getting close to pulling the trigger on a Willsenton R8. I have a pair of Tekton Electron SEs that I am presently (under) powering with a Reisong A50 (7.6 watts). BUT, of course, along comes something shinny and new. Could you please review the new Willsenton R-800i 300 B amp?? Thanks so much. Josh

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Email and ask china hifi to send me!

[@toddhupp]

Interesting use of 1930s era tubes other than the c 1956 KT88s.I wonder what their thinking was? vs 12au7s as an example

[@rasmuskokholm7044]

Great video, thank you! Do you know if the R8 will pair well with the ProAc Tablette 10? It’s 86 db sensitivity, but 10 ohms impedance and no big impedance dips.I've been eyeing it for a while haha.

[@ThomasAndStereo]

I have never tried something with such low sensitivity so I would not know.

[@zeissiez]

The R8 with stock KT88 works well with my KEF LS50 which has a sensitivity of 85dB. Full bass and punchy. With new Mullard EL34 tubes, the bass is a little light.

[@alexanderstefanov6474]

Thomas are you going to review the R800i? Btw it's a shame the R8 doesn't support KT90s, I have them in my Primaluna and they seem to combine the power and base slam of the KT88 with the finesse of a good el34

[@sunvalleydrivemusic2332]

Hi Thomas! What bookshelves do you think would be a perfect match with these? Also, I couldn’t find your Patreon site you mentioned on some other videos. Could you please include the link?

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Thanks, this work pretty well with most speakers I tried. Perhaps avoid anything below 87db or bass heavy speakers. I don't have a Patreon account but thank you.

[@enjoyunreality]

Hi Thomas, do you think vmv a1 is compareable to wilsenton r8 or is wilsenton significant better ? Thank you very much.

[@JEMHull-gf9el]

Would this be a good amp to consider for some vintage JBL L100s ?