Huion Kamvas Pro 24 (4k) Review for Artists by Noah Bradley

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The good folks at Huion sent me one of these amazing tablet displays and I wanted to share my experience using it for the last couple months. Spoiler alert: it's great.
Also at the end of the video I've included a short process video of painting the elf necromancer piece you see me working on in the other clips. Hope you like! I'm considering doing more demos of figures & portraits now that I've gotten a fair bit better at those things.
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Painted in Clip Studio Paint: www.jdoqocy.com/click-1005973...
These are the brushes I used for this: BRUSHES.WTF
Reference is from Rachel Bradley: imrachelbradley.gumroad.com/
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[@charlest2341]

With over 30 years experience as a professional artist doing work for major publications, comics, portraiture, corporate graphics, etc I have used traditional media and now the latest digital media for my projects. I remember when graphic pen displays were the newest technology and only worked kind of well...sometimes. It was a hit or miss with them back then. Then Wacom came along with a fantastic product that actually worked. So I became a Wacom guy. A few years ago I ordered a Huion 16 inch pen display and loved it. I wanted the larger display, but I ordered the smaller one just in case the quality wasn't up to my standards. I didn't want to waste more money than necessary. It was GREAT. So I then ordered a 21 inch pen display from Huion and it was as good or better than my Wacom. I have used Huion exclusively since then and have no plans to change. The color gamut is excellent. The responsiveness of the pen is excellent. I can honestly say that Huion is, in my opinion, better than any Wacom display or any other brands of display that I have ever used. Why pay twice the price for the Wacom brand name on a display when the Huion is much less expensive and works equally as well, if not better. I prefer the way the pen feels on the Huion to the Wacom. It feels like I am actually drawing on paper. I also love the felt tip nibs for the pen. The felt tip nibs on the pen will give you a totally different experience. Also, I prefer the larger displays because I tend to draw and paint with larger sweeping arm motions. The larger screens give me that freedom. I'm not a KZbin influencer or an artist you may have heard of before now. I am an artist with nearly 4 decades of experience ranging from animated features, to large advertising projects, to illustrating graphic novels. I send my time in the actual work trenches and I must have a dependable pen display to create my work on. Huion provides me with that peace of mind. I am happy working daily with Huion displays and my clients are always happy with the results. That is my honest review from someone who is not sponsored by Huion and did not receive a display for review.

[@Sadia..t]

thank you so much dear!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YOUR comment is something that i have been waiting forrrrr. its exactly the ones that clicked on all the right boxess Thanks to God!!! Hofffffffffffffffffffffffff

[@Kenny_mels]

Thank tou a lot

[@VedranKlemens]

Thanks for your review. Can you please tell me are Kamvas Pro 24 (4K) fans noisy? I own Cintiq Pro 24 and it's very noisy, so I was wondering how they compare.

[@charlest2341]

@@VedranKlemens The Huion Kamvavs Pro 24 is silent. I spend hours each day using my Huion Pen display. I publish a magazine for professional magicians. I use the Huion for every part of the creation process. If it made a distracting fan noise that would drive me crazy. Unless Huion takes a drastic down turn in their quality I will never go back to Wacom again. I own 4 Huion displays and love each of them. A couple of them I have had for at least 5 years and have never had an issue with either of them. As far as screen image quality goes, I can see no real differences in the Wacom and the Huion. For me, equal or even better screen quality, excellent stylus response times, feels like drawing in real paper, color accuracy, and a much lower price means Huion wins the battle.

[@DarkRikusa]

@@VedranKlemens I just came from a different review about this product and the person said that the Kamvas 24 pro (4K) is NOT noisy and barely gets warm. Hopefully that helps put you at ease a little!

[@sampraz1990]

who else enjoys watching these reviews just for the hell of it.

[@AtomLabX]

Here!

[@gregorybown]

This was a very down to earth and clearly honest review, comprehensive, too! Thank you for taking the time to share. Great job! You're a one take master!

[@TeamBradley]

Haha, thanks! I don't know how to be a personality or make snappy, youtube-y content, so I just try to be me and talk to people. :)

[@n_communicates8030]

Yes! The master has returned!

[@TeamBradley]

Still alive! :)

[@tarnsmith8573]

Hey Noah, so glad to see you back in action! I hope you are recovering smoothly from your injury and that we can see your amazing work for many years to come! PS I also use a cintiq companion and those damn drivers are a curse XD

[@TeamBradley]

Thanks so much, recovery is on track and I'm slowly getting back to normal! Appreciate the encouragement. P.s. fuck Wacom and their drivers

[@TeamBradley]

@@someperson4819 haha I do love that there are great alternatives these days

[@Sadia..t]

Thank you so much for this 9 minutes of work!!!!!!! Your this one video was enough for me to make my decision Alhamdulilahhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!

[@TeamBradley]

Awesome, hope you love it!

[@mrsplosh999]

Thanks so much for the review :) Was struggling to find a review from another painter hehe. Ordered mine today :) hope you’re well

[@TeamBradley]

You bet, hope you love it as much as I have!

[@MMM1MM]

You look great, Noah! And nice review!

[@TeamBradley]

Haha thanks! And now I've got a sweet neck scar!

[@MMM1MM]

@@TeamBradley No doubt! Hope your recovery is going well :)

[@MB-go6uy]

I really do think this hits the sweet spot for those people wanting the Wacom 24 Pro but don't want to pay that price. Huion did a really good job with price and value/performance relative to the Wacom 24.

[@TeamBradley]

Absolutely right. I don't really see anything that the added cost of the Wacom is getting you. I'd even say that at the same price you'd be better off with the Huion. I think aside from the name recognition of Wacom, they're going to get stomped.

[@GeekedOutNeckbeard]

For Americans, for Canadians it's $1999,99 and the Wacom isn't too far up there in comparison to this product for me. So I dunno which to choose since neither are "affordable" lmao. Working construction means I can rack good money over the Spring/Summer time, but which product is truly the one that matters is uncertain. Too expensive at this rate. Canada needs to improve its dollar power cause this is BS.

[@FerGalicia]

How does it compare to the feeling of an ipad pro with the apple pencil? I love my ipad pro but I need something bigger and stationary, I have a ugee 22 hd but the feeling is really bad after working on an ipad pro.

[@deanwilliams433]

@@GeekedOutNeckbeard I can't believe Canadians pay such premiums just north of our border. Get a friend in the US to buy you one.

[@HalfWarrior]

Very cool Noah, thanks for this; I’ve been using the same Cintiq 21UX since 2005; and was thinking about something newer and ’fresh’ This might be it!

[@TeamBradley]

Do it! I think it's the best option out there right now. It's a very sweet machine.

[@mato3383]

looks amazing :) yeah, more figures, portraits, especially if you can combine them in scene with amazing landscapes, environment, keep em coming if you enjoy doing 'em ^^

[@TeamBradley]

Thanks! Will do! :)

[@bloopboop9320]

Yeah, this reminds me of when the Ugee 1910B was still being made. 19inch drawing monitor for only $325 (this was back in 2017!) which cost the same amount as buying an Intuos Pro Tablet. While the 1910B wasn't perfect for color the fact that it was nearly 1/6th the price as the Wacom 21inch Monitors and about 75% the quality really made it a no brainer. I'm glad that Wacom has finally been getting some decent competition because their prices are based on name-recognition and industry standard, not because they are exponentially better.

[@TeamBradley]

Absolutely agree. There are becoming fewer and fewer reasons for anyone to buy Wacom products these days.

[@nikolaikai940]

Would love to see a little tutorial on the 6:06 DIY stand. Glad to have you back!

[@TeamBradley]

Will do! I'm sure woodworkers would be aghast at how half-assed it is, but it's also super easy to put together, looks good, is stable as hell, and even quite durable (it's been dropped and banged around a few times in the last few years).

[@nikolaikai940]

@@TeamBradley "I'm sure woodworkers would be aghast" Don't pay them no mind, I'm living by the old idiom "if it looks stupid but works, it ain't stupid." so bring it on. 😅

[@TeamBradley]

@@nikolaikai940 Haha, I love that! I'll be sure to get a video of that done sometime. Might have to make another one just to show off how I do it, but I think I've got all the materials handy, so shouldn't be too hard.

[@gabrielpaulino1990]

Nice!!

[@CosyPigeon]

Heh, I remember your cintiq companion review. I haven't updated my Wacom drivers since then either.

[@TeamBradley]

lol fucking Wacom drivers

[@alfredmanzano680]

Appreciate your review man, I been looking at as much reviews as I can about this tablet versus Wacom 24 pro. You are the first tho who claims to like huion more tho. A couple others have said that huion is nice but that if they had to choose, Wacom would still be their main choice for this size of tablet. The dead pixel thing is definitely a new thing I’m hearing about tho with Wacom.

[@TeamBradley]

Huh, I'm kinda surprised. I suspect a lot of people are really used to the Wacom brand and stick with it out of habit. I don't really see any disadvantages to the Huion. It's a great tablet.

[@alfredmanzano680]

@@TeamBradley true it really could just be the brand love or something. Thank you!

[@_Thri]

Bout time you showed up again! Tf! x

[@TeamBradley]

Hahaha, I know right? It felt so good to make another video again. I keep getting tempted lately to _really_ get into youtube. I hate all the other social media platforms lately, but youtube is still pretty great. So yeah, I'm thinking of getting into it and really committing to a regular release schedule. We'll see, of course. :)

[@leahs7024]

@@TeamBradley You should! A lot of people would love to see new content from you. Myself included. Good luck!

[@sampraz1990]

can you please tell use your canvas settings such as resolution and dpi?

[@marcolongo5728]

Hi! Thanks for the video, I just bought one, I would like to know if it comes with a protective film or not? Do you suggest in the case to apply one on it? Thank you

[@WestlyLaFleur]

Good shit, dude. Thanks for doing the review; I needed to pick up something like this anyway, so I'll probably just go ahead with the purchase. Hopefully this is an affiliate link that kicks something back your way. Good luck with everything, especially the recovery that you're going through right now.

[@TeamBradley]

Thanks so much (and thanks for using the affiliate link)! I hope you love it as much as I do-you'll have to let me know how you like it. And thanks, recovery is on track so far! It's amazing to feel myself getting a little better every day.

[@Siegfried5846]

Could you do a video about sculpting? I have no idea what sort of clay I should buy if I want to sculpt statues of comic book superheroes and anime.

[@TeamBradley]

I'm maybe not the best source for that.

[@Jules-ky1jo]

Is this a standalone tablet or does it need a computer/PC to be plugged into to function? Is this portable and can be taken anywhere e.g to a park or does it require a constant power source?

[@grahamnightingale9513]

lol yeah good tip! Once you haver installed the drivers and they work leave it alone and never touch them again!! Good to see you doing ok and I hope your neck problem is long gone! Best wishes dude! :)

[@TeamBradley]

Haha it's really the only way to deal with Wacom drivers. I'm so used to being diligent about updating software, drivers, etc. but with them.... never. It always screwed me over trying to stay up to date on them. And thanks! I'm dealing with a lot of nerve issues still and have a lot of physical therapy ahead of me, but I'm doing muuuuuuch better than I was.

[@Nightravenusa88]

Gr8 Vid! Just curious if this is is a Stand Alone or All in One Graphics Tablet like the Huion Kamvas Studio 22?

[@TeamBradley]

You've gotta plug it into a computer. :)

[@stevemartinez9010]

Great Review - I am guessing you are still enjoying your Huron 24 - 4k. Love the artwork and the colors scheme. I am wondering on the wood base you built to hold your Huion sturdy as you work. I am currently in search of a stand something reliable as well, as I have just received my brand new Huion, same model as yours. Thank You

[@TeamBradley]

I'm gonna make a video on making those!

[@stevemartinez9010]

@@TeamBradley - That would be great to see and learn!

[@lenengquist592]

What's your current brightness and contrast with this display? Also great review, I have one myself. And it always reassures me to see people say this is still a good product to have.

[@TeamBradley]

I've got brightness at 100 and contrast at 57. That combined with whatever tweaks I made to the gamma and color correction seems to have gotten all my colors into the right ballpark. :)

[@zionne2716]

Do u use screen proctectors ? Im gonna buy this one next week. I just rlly dont ever wanna scratch it since its expensive. And ya some tips on the stand would be great ! Otherwise i ll buy a triangle chunk of wood or sth

[@TeamBradley]

I don't use any screen protectors, but I haven't had any issues with scratching the screen. Though, I do tend to use a pretty light touch when I paint. Sadly no help on the stand--the one you see me using is a little drawing board I made myself (because I've struggled to find the exact sort of stand that I want). So yeah, triangle chunk of wood is a good idea! :)

[@Walter5850]

Question to anyone who has this drawing monitor, does your pen PW517 activate when you grab the pen lightly and only use the weight of the pen to leave a mark? I have a very light touch and after switching from Wacom Intuos Pro, I'm noticing that the pen sometimes doesn't register my strokes with the very light touch. This is the only flaw with the drawing monitor I have so far, and I am trying to figure out if my pen is faulty or is it simply not as sensitive as wacom's. Thank you!

[@taylor4379]

Is the surface between the screen and pen thin enough for you? and how low does the brightness go? Can you work on white in the dark without blowing your eyes out?

[@TeamBradley]

It seems really close to me. Definitely haven't felt an issue there. And it seems like it could go dark? But I... Tend to not paint in a perfectly dark room?

[@Starrider.]

I had my 19 inch Huion for 4 years when overnight the screen stopped reacting to pen. I contacted the support, said I have an older machine and no account, but how can I resolve it. Easy enough, they answered, turns out I just had to buy a new pen. 50$ investment into a 4 year old 300$ machine and it flies just like before. So glad that they proved everyone wrong about the Wacom-alternatives. Maybe I could upgrade to a more fancy one

[@TeamBradley]

That's so awesome and so damn encouraging to hear! I haven't had the slightest problem with this one so far, but glad to hear it'll probably go the distance. :)

[@nikb7995]

Hello Noah, I had a question regarding my pressure sensitivity for my kamvas pro 24 4k pen. In the driver settings where you can test pressure levels, it displays the strokes just fine. i.e little pressure thin line and a lot of pressure thick line. But this doesn't work well in photoshop. I turned pressure levels on in brushes settings but still it doesn't work as well as in the drivers. any suggestions

[@TeamBradley]

Hmmm, I'm using CSP these days, so I can't be a huge amount of help (CSP lets you fine tune the pressure curves in there as well). Does it not give you any pressure sensitivity at all? If not, there's definitely something wrong and I'd get to googling. Good luck, hate problems like that!

[@ragecandy]

How is the initial activation force? I have an older huion and it's legit on par with wacom sensitivity wise but I tried one of their newer ones and you have to press super hard to get a line

[@ckmoore]

This would be my biggest concern as well. I like extremely low IAF.

[@TeamBradley]

I always draw very very lightly and it seems to work well for me, at least. I can't really quantify it but I certainly don't feel like I have to press hard at any point to use it. :)

[@juleskurianmathew1983]

Can we use macbook air m2 trackpad to move cursor on kamvas pro 24 4k?

[@TeamBradley]

I don't see why not

[@KazlauskasRichardas]

Hi Noah, tell me please, do you work in sRGB or Adobe RGB color space? I'm looking for new monitor and can't decide, should I pick sRGB or go wide gamut.

[@TeamBradley]

Get whatever you can afford. Sure, more colors are better. But at the same time, people are probably mostly viewing your art on their phones or mediocre monitors. Realistically, it doesn't matter _that_ much.

[@KazlauskasRichardas]

Hi Noah, tell me please, do you use Clip studio for client work, or photoshop only.

[@TeamBradley]

I use CSP for just about everything these days!

[@myazstar]

I’m looking for something that can be used to trace something out of a bunch of layers. Can you please recommend either this product or another that can help me pull images out of a mess and trace the image on a screen? Thanks 😊

[@TeamBradley]

I have no idea what you're asking

[@lauramariesart6959]

First i want to say really nice video, i really liked how you reviewed the device. I recently got the Huion Kamvas 24 (4k) and the only problem i have is the calibration of the display the colours look to bright and the red seems way too bright. I was wondering how you calibrated the display like what did you do first and how?

[@TeamBradley]

First I did the windows calibration and got the brightness/contrast set on the device. Then the gamma to tweak the values. Then finally bumped that color balance until I got a nice neutral gray. The windows color calibration thing is pretty good and easy.

[@devsunny10]

Hey mate , how is your experience with 24(4k) ... Although for me it's very expensive in Europe

[@bartez8018]

Is it better to have graphic tablet without screen + 2 monitors, or graphic tablet with screen + 1 monitor?

[@TeamBradley]

100% personal preference

[@jasontreyes8078]

I remember when Huion first came out with the tablets and the pens used batteries. It produced a burning smell. The pen that comes with this screen is battery free, correct?

[@TeamBradley]

No batteries! And definitely no burning. :)

[@jasontreyes8078]

@@TeamBradley Thank you. I'd like to pivot from graphic design and try to become a concept artist this year as my 2023 goal. I think this will be a good investment to start digital illustration.

[@picazzzoo7190]

Does it have a screen protector that can be peeled off and replaced?

[@TeamBradley]

I'm sure you could find one, but I hate screen protectors

[@nordindelosreyes3473]

Hello. I have some crazy bad latency with mine. The mouse cursor is so laggy. The lines I draw are lagging behind the pen by a lot and Im drawing them slowly. What cables am I supposed to connect to my pc? just the Hdmi to hdmi to the back of my computer? Plz respond quickly good sir. Im returning this soon.

[@TeamBradley]

You need to have the USB-C connected from your computer to the screen as well!

[@lazy1817]

How’d u figure out ur colour calibration? I found my colours on my tablet (kamvas 22+) in a reddit post lmao

[@TeamBradley]

Eyeballing it based on some of my paintings, mostly. :) I've got a pretty good idea for what the values and colors should look like that they make it pretty easy to calibrate based on them.

[@nightwalkerj]

One of the biggest reasons I use Huion over any Wacom product is driver issues.

[@TeamBradley]

lol I love it. But it's kinda fair. I can't tell you how many times I've been prevented from painting because of driver issues breaking pressure sensitivity, losing my settings, etc. Nothing at all with huion so far!

[@devantetoppin7879]

Wacom has basically backed themselves into a corner and I don't see it ending well for them in the long run. They were the only game in town at one point and so the premium made sense. Even once the new kids came to town but I think Huion and XP pen are within striking distance honestly. You can literally pick up this pen display get 4k, get HDR color range, High color gamut coverage, Good color accuracy get the wireless express key pad and an adjustable stand for like half of what the Wacom equivalent and the experience is is nearly identical. Some might say that Wacom has already been beat. It's getting hard to justify for even the most hardcore of professional artists to justify and there's much better value across the board from the beginner tablets all the way to the top.

[@TeamBradley]

Yep, exactly right. If Wacom made the clearly better product, I think they could justify the premium. But they don't any more. They make a comparable product with an astronomical pricetag. I think more and more artists will make the jump.

[@VedranKlemens]

Are Kamvas Pro 24 (4K) fans noisy? I own Cintiq Pro 24 and it's very noisy, so I was wondering how they compare.

[@TeamBradley]

Nah not at all

[@TheMelter101]

I’m not gonna edit that out hahaha! Btw it’s a bit irrelevant but have you been able to start the gym again or need to wait longer? 💪

[@TeamBradley]

Haha, I have! I had to wait a little while, but as of a few weeks ago I'm back to hitting the gym again regularly. Feels great. 💪

[@raybrianeandan6231]

Hi noah Are you still using this tablet? How is it a year later if you still are, thank you!

[@TeamBradley]

Yep, use it all the time! And absolutely love it. Only possible wish is that they'd make an even bigger one, but that's mostly because I love big screens and not because this is even slightly small. It's a great device.

[@tested211]

@@TeamBradley Yes 27 would be perfect!

[@epso7621]

I ll buy the 16 inch 4k version the 24 inch is sadly a bit out of my price range, but thank you for the review it gave me a good insight on how Huion compares to Wacom.

[@TeamBradley]

Good luck, hope you love it!

[@angelanguiano4338]

whoa! i was about to get Wacom 24 inch the 2,000 dollar one not the one with touch screen don't need that, but i came across your video, now im debating on which to get, i was told that huion on 4k its only 8 bit not 10 bit like wacom, touch choice i have to make, does your wife like her wacom 32 inch on what she think about the huion? just trying to make up my mind, i use wacom intous pro right now im new to 3d art, will be using it with photoshop zbrush and maya.. but yea i need to get it soon as soon as i get my mind made up, i was a web developer but want to change careers as 3d artist

[@TeamBradley]

I don't know about the 8bit vs 10bit but I can't say I've ever been impressed with the color reproduction on Cintiqs. I always find them a bit too muted and dull. My wife does like her Cintiq but it's currently suffering from a lot of dead pixels after just a couple years of use. And aside from the size advantage I think that she'd probably lean towards using one of these instead if she had to choose again. She's definitely looked over at this thing jealously from time to time. :) Not sure if that helps but good luck!

[@angelanguiano4338]

@@TeamBradley Thanks a lot Noah! i think i might go with the huion 24, dead pixel is no good especially at the priced the wacom 32 cintiq is. you should do more videos using your huion.. i been debating on which to get for a month now, i been suing my wacom intous pro in meantime . if you happy with the huion must be that good. i hear people be sandi of their nibs on huion 24 pro whats all that about ?

[@TeamBradley]

@@angelanguiano4338 lol sanding nibs? Never heard anything about that--sounds... weird. :)

[@TheKevphil]

Thanks, Noah! I have the 2nd gen 21UX Cintiq. I bought it way back when for the full $2K price. (Argh) I really like it, especially with the "Flex" nib, but it does have serious limitations. The color gamut is something like 60% Adobe RGB (!), and although my big use is comics inking, it would be nice to have color performance somewhere in the ballpark. And of course, the resolution is very low. But the worst thing about it is that it is no longer supported, at least for Windows. So there's a good chance Windows 11 may break it. Not only is the Huion model here less expensive, the stand for it presents an even greater disparity: $50 vs $300! I would _need_ a stand, so that's important to me. Like you, I also prefer to use a keyboard and usually have it directly in front of me, between me and the tablet monitor. So if I live long enough and I need a new screen tablet, the Huion looks like a great choice. Thanks for your review! (And your Demoness/Vampire, too.)

[@TeamBradley]

You're so welcome, hope you love it if you do end up getting one! I've always been disappointed by the colors on any cintiq I've used. I've probably been spoiled by good monitors but it's a damn shame that a company making devices for creative fields wouldn't try a little bit harder to get their colors a fair bit better.

[@invox9490]

Loved to see him drop a thousand dollars piece of tech and not giving a f* about it. lol 😄

[@TeamBradley]

lol hey the keyboard thing is relatively cheap. :P

[@happytreefrog1264]

If you are prepared to spend over a grand on this, then you might as well buy a Wacom Cintiq Pro.

[@TeamBradley]

Did you watch the video? Even at the _same_ price I'd prefer to get the Huion!

[@davidm7000]

Mixed thoughts. It looks great and is very tempting, but I have problems buying from a Chinese company right now--mixed feelings on that as it is a complex issue. I have three good friends from China, who have family back in China, and boycotting China hurts their government far less than it hurts regular people. But China's aggressiveness and human rights abuses (which my friends do not support) make it a difficult decision. But, dang, that Huion Kamvas does look like a great product. My Wacom tablet is ancient and I probably should replace it. Sorry for the ramble. Trying to talk myself into getting a Huion.

[@TeamBradley]

I understand those feelings! Nobody like supporting authoritarian regimes. But yeah I figure the same thing, that in purchasing from these companies we're helping the employees of those companies a fair bit. Maybe doesn't always work out that way, but we can hope. I do love the tablet though. They're making a fantastic product!

[@amenbrother8785]

"and they sent me one!" lol, if they only knew about the drama...

[@TeamBradley]

I'm gonna guess other people have access to google too.

[@amenbrother8785]

@@TeamBradley I'm gonna guess they didnt bother, they just saw the social media follower count. shrugs

[@ShadowQrow]

The thing about getting a review copy is not about you being super biased, it's about you not having the pressure of having spent a dime on the product. So you may innately and subconsciously diminish some criticisms.

[@TeamBradley]

If this broke today I would immediately order another one.

[@ShadowQrow]

@@TeamBradley Based.

[@DRAWKCABLLA]

thanks for the video m8 real question is would you pay 1300 for it?

[@TeamBradley]

In a heartbeat.

[@DRAWKCABLLA]

@@TeamBradley good to know. thanks for the reply. and you say this is better than the wacom competitor basically?

[@TeamBradley]

@@DRAWKCABLLA Yeah I'd pick it any day.

[@DRAWKCABLLA]

@@TeamBradley good to know. I have the choice of fixing my broken phone or buying this. its a hard choice. tho my phone wont be able to help me with projects so idk.