HULK (2003) - Caravan of Garbage

[@BlueTrueBlueClue]

Why does it feel like you reviewed this movie four times already and how is it possible you've never done a Caravan of Garbage on it?!

[@nottoday9182]

I thought I was the only one from that timeline...

[@ultimamage3]

Wait, they didn't?

[@PiddyPyro]

I'm so glad you said this because I literally was scratching my head at this lol

[@TheREALTiPPiDa]

@@ultimamage3 they did the game I think

[@christianthompson7212]

I swear I remember them recently reviewing it and talking about those hulk dogs

[@jonasquinn7977]

I can’t believe James came up with the fantastic name Green Trivia specifically for this movie, so dedicated

[@zakkogle8810]

green lantern lol

[@bern9642]

Green lantern

[@bern9642]

@@zakkogle8810 I'm surprised it stuck.

[@mattk8708]

I’m so happy I watched the video where this joke premiered

[@Vaisero]

yeah i liked that detail a lot

[@exzyyd392]

"You won't like me when I'm Ang Lee" - Bruce Banner warning us about this film

[@wyndgrove9452]

Shout out to Stuart Lee.

[@hotrod8486]

genius

[@AverageDrafter]

It upsets me that such a great joke had such a short shelf life.

[@jacktadash]

Roundofafuckingapplauseplease.

[@walkerjake79]

This is way too funny for KZbin.

[@STormnNormn2027]

The moment Nick Nolte drags his hand through the blue metal is my absolute favorite. You can really feel the weight of it.

[@CaptainCat101]

It was the only legitimately good scene.

[@mottom2657]

@@CaptainCat101 Which one is worse: Hulk 2003 or Spider-Man 3?

[@CaptainCat101]

@@mottom2657 definitely Hulk. Spider-Man 3 makes lots of mistakes, but it's entertaining throughout the entire movie. Hulk drags

[@АртурАртуров-ф4ю]

​@@CaptainCat101 You got that from Nostalgia Critic review, didn't you. No way you watched this movie in its entirety and didn't find anything good about it than this. That one scene where David Banner recalls trying to mercy-kill Bruce and accidentally killing his wife absolutely mogs any modern superhero movie's attempt at drama.

[@CaptainCat101]

@@АртурАртуров-ф4ю I did watch it all the way through, and I didn't like most of it.

[@gridlo]

The angrier he gets, the bigger he gets is an aspect of the character I miss.

[@parkerboy795]

I might be mistaken, but I think that was only in this movie. And really, he should probably be no bigger than 9 or 10 feet tall.

[@gridlo]

@@parkerboy795 I think it was. And in the original comics. I miss it in the MCU.

[@Dilmahkana]

In a movie about an grumbly, old man fighting a green CGI balloon man, that aspect seemed a bit goofy. For meeee

[@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep]

Idk it's not really that much of a thing in the comics or the cartoons or the show. I'm fine with it not being in the MCU. If we do get a Planet Hulk or an incursion in Secret Wars, that might an interesting foe to have to defeat though

[@mh2120]

Sort of like my mom and her ulcer

[@Storgud]

Wow, I did not know Ang Lee did the motion capture for Hulk. Crazy creative choice.

[@buffnipz]

Yeah that part was interesting. I was also impressed by a lot of the scene transitions, I think the one with the desert plant is amazing

[@djangofett4879]

The guy had a very clear vision for the movie and thats why it holds up so well unlike a turd like X3 The Last Stand or Daredevil which are embarrassing to rewatch now.

[@eboooo]

Daredevil was nice imo. ​@@djangofett4879

[@desmondslater]

​@@djangofett4879 😂 this movie is terrible and boring af. Feels like its 3 hours

[@MicahEdmonds]

No matter what anyone says, using a regenerative healing factor which amplifies and speeds up a bodies natural response to pain to promote healing of injuries, but when it's inside a human, attempts to heal their emotional damage is fucking genius level shit. Using that interpretation of the superpower as a device to investigate hereditary male rage, domestic abuse, emotional surpression, repressed memories, how unaddressed childhood trauma creates distance in adult relationships, and how a masculine society typically responds with anger to cover their pain or to deal with mental illnesses is *the* most ambitious and emotionally interesting story in a superhero film to date and this film is a fucking titan. The dialogue occasionally being a bit too on-the-nose is the only thing I dislike about it. Everything about its core is absolute gold and only gets better every year. Every time a new superhero film releases which doesn't have a tenth of the stomach for narrative this one had in 2003 further solidifies it as even further ahead of its time. What a good year for movies.

[@mccarthy5825]

Wow Micah... Thats one hell of an interesting, thought provoking, well written, wonderful opinion of the movie. Screenshotted that to ponder over... Thank you so much for sharing mate 👍 Having been through a lot of stuff in childhood, spending over a decade using heroin and crack to medicate, trying to bleed that anger and vitriol out of me as a teen by cutting... The changes I went through when addicted... Then I went to prison and you have to be a stone faced stoic 24/7 and the whole atmosphere is 'men don't care what's happening to them'... Or it's very taboo to open up about your feelings. No matter who you are, you are terrified first time in the nick... But you don't show it. And you've no time alone really... Its a hard thing and it's ridiculous that as a man showing fear or pain is seen as 'wrong'... When you are addicted you feel like a monster and you do awful things you never would otherwise. You become a different person.

[@jordanthomas3279]

DUUUUDDDDEEEEE

[@ultimamage3]

Goddamn, you really put everything good about this movie into one comment. Agreed with all of it. 💯👍

[@michael-john4954]

damn I hope you start reviewing movies, I would read your pieces.

[@JesseCuster]

Micah, your eloquent and thoughtful comment has made me want to revisit a movie I did not care for in the least.

[@anjaneyasreetrout2444]

18:11 I believe in this part Hulk is not just giving him his "energy" but also passing on all of his rage and hatred. (The visuals as well as that line, "you think you can take it?" specifically points towards this idea) Hulk blames his own father for the way he is and is forcing down all of his traumatic memories onto his father. Making him go through the same pain he suffered in his childhood.

[@eddwithbraindamage6751]

Exactly! and his father only promoting his anger and violence saying Hulk is his real son but when faced that energy pain he put in him he couldn’t take it.

[@TheApacheNinja]

I agree with Mason: I appreciated this movie way more on a recent rewatch. It’s so ridiculous and so out of left field that it’s so mesmerizing. The editing is incredibly all over the place and the transitions are incredibly comic book-y. A super hero movie like this will probably never exist again but I’m glad that it exists in the first place.

[@RYMAN1321]

The fact though that no comic book film has used that comic split screens shows that it wasn’t well received though

[@mottom2657]

@@RYMAN1321 Yup, wasn't well-received at that time. And still now, sometimes it feels like over-done.

[@MaryumGardner]

@@mottom2657 It is an example of what NOT to do for directors

[@BaronVonHardcharger]

"Green Trivia" is our favourite bit. James should absolutely keep doing "Green Trivia" forever because we demand it.

[@bretsheeley4034]

Yeah, but if the trivia gains too much experience, it won't be green anymore.

[@danielstocks9088]

@@bretsheeley4034 you aren't that like my man

[@rfdflorencio]

As each Caravan of Garbage arrives at my feed, I just can't wait to see what next green trivia will be covered in the video

[@TheRealDPooly]

RODNEY

[@luckyasmr1374]

I will always love the way Hulk defeats that dog by pumping his muscles up and breaking it’s jaw. This film is genuinely underrated.

[@RyanAmnell]

In that scene where you could barely see what was going on? Yeah I was not a fan of watching hulk fight dogs in the dark.

[@Alfonso88279]

The problem is that the movie goes for a serious tone and then... killer freaking poodles.

[@NeutralGuyDoubleZero]

You mean the part where there's killer poodles that explode into green fart gas and you can barely see anything in the scene?

[@You-Tube-n5k]

Not the word I would use.

[@sadchild9478]

The word “underrated” is misused so much now

[@bufflatino5121]

*I don't care what anyone says, I LOVE 2003 HULK. I saw it in theaters. It's the perfect Hulk film, exploring Bruce's backstory, love life, and his rage. Plus, the action is INSANE. 10/10.* 💯

[@IdleDaydreamer]

I'll always give this film a pass for at least trying to do something interesting and different, even if it's not entirely successful. Also, that moment of Hulk looking at moss is oddly mesmerising 😵‍💫

[@You-Tube-n5k]

My problem is that while I love what it’s going for, it ends up falling flat for me

[@Leprechaunproduction]

To quote Honest Trailers, "Stop staring at that bush and HIT SOMETHING!"

[@haroon420]

Yh. I actually really appreciated that moment.

[@jonnymarcia4403]

my only complaint is that it needed more action to make up for the slow pace

[@bryanferratt6598]

@@Leprechaunproduction I love this movie. I didn't mind there wasn't enough action in it.

[@RJ-Ramen]

Used to rent this from blockbuster a ton as a kid. Love the way Hulk runs in this. The ferocity of it.

[@brandonbigler1516]

The way his legs move so fast reminds me of a crab

[@You-Tube-n5k]

Despite the cgi being awful, the animation is pretty good all things considered

[@fn9six]

Ahhahaha me and my cousin used to always re-wind that bit on the dvd. Ferocity, couldn't give it a better word

[@fn9six]

@@You-Tube-n5k honestly I think the CGI still holds to this day

[@You-Tube-n5k]

@@fn9six That’s fair. I personally think it’s aged badly.

[@jackieboyborden]

The more time passes, the more I'm sure that Ang Lee's Hulk is secretly a masterpiece

[@LordSeth-hf8ew]

me too

[@scottvincent4553]

Yeah, I never quite understood the hate for this movie. I can agree that it's much better now than it used to be. It's still my favourite Hulk movie as it goes deep into trauma and human emotions as a psychological arthouse film instead of a superhero movie.

[@mickeymouse7726]

It's certainly a masterpiece for me I have grown to love Ang Lee's Hulk movie so much

[@nehemiahsomers4141]

I wouldn't call it a masterpiece, it feels really disjointed and like the first draft of a great movie. I do really appreciate how unique the movie, I love the filmmaking, the story is great, and this Hulk is definitely the best we've seen in live action

[@RYMAN1321]

@@nehemiahsomers4141 Fair points. But as was said, the fact that no comic book film has done that split paneling as shown here shows that it wasn’t well received

[@izzy8609]

The Danny Elfman score at the end of this video is why this movie is near and dear to my heart, the familiarity and relatability of the tragic abuse/father relationship is part of the reason why I liked it so much. It caused an introspective reaction which made me relate to "a guy so unique he can't be related to" beyond that message I feel from a surface level he's just a big green dude with trauma I reckon.

[@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep]

Agreed. That score still gives me chills.

[@Storgud]

It was a bit hit and miss but I appreciate that Ang Lee actually tried to make a comic book movie in a way I haven't seen anybody else do. It's just feels so different from something like the MCU where everything blends together.

[@motherplayer]

Sometimes I forget the overall homogeneity of the MCU, even when it's colorful and vibrate. How do they make even bright colors look washed out?

[@ScooterinAB]

I'll agree that at least he did something different and didn't just try and make the X-men or Spiderman but with more green.

[@You-Tube-n5k]

The thing is that a lot of early 2000s superhero movies make me thankful for the MCU. They’re a lot less “cookiecutter” I guess, but it makes me realize exactly how much people didn’t know what they were doing as a whole

[@ConceptJunkie]

There's a lot he did well. Just not all of it.

[@cngotham4111]

@@You-Tube-n5k I mean even in the beginning of the MCU it was kinda questionble at certain points. Although I think hulk was a good movie and did alot of things right. Blade was also pretty good.

[@wyndgrove9452]

This is still the best visual presentation of a character's psychology in a superhero/comic film - the way the dream sequences and memories play out are just the right kind of beautiful, melancholic, and surreal. Also, Nick Nolte's performance of Banner's dad is GLORIOUSLY horrible.

[@nzcsx]

2:47 “…who occasionally has something tragic happened to him “ \* flashes Caravan of Garbage \* Hats off to you editor!

[@ultimamage3]

16:40 I mean, the Hulk technically doesn't kill a single person through the entirety of the runtime of the movie. It's either the military or the villainous characters that bring their own ruin. It's kind of the point that the Hulk himself is a massive trauma response that just wants to be left alone and not constantly triggered into acting or reacting.

[@1D4ever]

Exactly he went out of his way to save the Soldiers, MCU Hulk does the opposite.

[@ultimamage3]

@@1D4ever MCU Hulk causes a ton of destruction but the universe contorts itself into showing that he somehow doesn't kill a single person despite causing tons of collateral damage including one scene in Age of Ultron where he wrecks a car on the driver's side but somehow the driver got out through the passenger side under his own power.

[@kjthagawd5619]

@@ultimamage3 ??? mcu talk about it all the time. in that same movie they talked about how many innocent people he’s killed. That’s the whole reason he sent himself into space because he lost his mind and murdered innocents in the process. that’s why in Thor 3 he’s on another planet

[@chaddaddywarden4349]

Yeah idk how they forgot about the moment where Hulk saves the people on the bridge from the jet

[@dinogoldie9716]

Talbot's death, Hulk kindly emptying the tank before using it as a baseball bat and, the antagonist turning into an energy cloud aside, I still really like this movie.

[@guileniam]

What's wrong with tank?

[@dinogoldie9716]

​@@guileniam Who's "Tank?" It doesn't make any sense for a rage monster to pause for thought to empty the tank of inhabitants before flinging it about.

[@evandickinson6393]

One of my best friends was a manager at a (Century) theater near me when this movie came out, our Friend group was invited to the "Dry Run" (when the theater needs to test the film before showing it publicly) these happened after midnight...I'd already worked a long day and came to the Dry Run on the precipice of sleep...my only theatrical experience with this movie was that of a waking dream...I LOVED IT...because I was in a young undrugged near hallucinogenic state! Since then I've refused to revisit the movie because I hold my initial experience so dear to me...it's gonna be a hoot watching 2 lucid adults riff on bits of a hallucination that I faintly remember!

[@markw110]

❤️

[@HelloSadness101]

Lucid adults? Who are you talking about here?

[@chaddaddywarden4349]

What even

[@LuisSierra42]

I've always liked this movie. When i first found out that a lot of people didn't like it, i was very surprised

[@bravocrimson12]

Green trivia works here 😂. Here's some green trivia for the deep divers... How old would Jessica Walters be in the universe at the time of this movie?

[@oscaralextv]

I LOVED this film as a kid. Probably still do.

[@Thyyyyyyyyme]

Honestly, I really do love how this movie tries to address the whole childhood trauma angle of Bruce's psyche/The Hulk. I mean, part of it's because the Hulk/all of Banner's other personalities stemming from his childhood is the lynchpin of my favourite comic run of all time, The Immortal Hulk, but I also just really like that aspect of the character. The dynamics between Bruce and his other selves just add a lot to the character, and I really appreciate it compared to the much more sanitized/unfocused version of the character we get in the MCU.

[@maul42]

I remember when this came out, I heard a number of people talk about how they couldn't believe him being able to jump like that or how big he got. Like we were still too attached as a society to the old TV show. I think everyone is more ready for the Hulk's physicality 20 or 30 superhero films later.

[@askanison2266]

The idea of the Hulk’s identifies being a result of his childhood trauma had already been an established element of the characters history for 28 years by the time this film was released. It was by no means a fairly recent addition.

[@ScooterinAB]

And when was the character first created? That's a recent addition.

[@askanison2266]

@@ScooterinAB I’m glad you asked Scooter. The Hulk debuted in May of 1962. The idea that Banner’s multiple Hulk identities (Green, Grey, Professor, Devil, and so on) were a result of his childhood trauma was introduced in October of 1985. 23 years into the characters run. So by that measure, the concept of the trauma being the source of his multiple Hulk identities had already existed for 28 years by the time that the film was released. So as you can see, referring to it as a fairly “recent” addition, is misleading.

[@ScooterinAB]

@@askanison2266 23 years later is a fairly recent addition though. Contrast that with the addition of Krytonite, which first showed up in superman stories just a few years later, Robin, who joined Batman just a year after his debut, or the Claremont changes to the X-men roster that came just 12 years later, something coming 23 years into a character's run and in the mid 1980's is a very recent addition. That is why it is called a recent addition.

[@askanison2266]

@@ScooterinAB Your definition of the word recent and the Webster’s dictionary definition of recent are vastly different. And once again, The film debuted 28 years after that particular story element was introduced into the hulk’s origin. In addition, the examples you utilized actually strengthen what I stated. Those were “recent additions” in comparison to when the characters debuted. But adding a new element to a characters story 23 years after his debut and 28 years before his feature film adaptation can by no means be viewed as “recent” comparative to the release of the film. Move on, Scooter. You’re mistaken. It’s ok. Life goes on.

[@cngotham4111]

@@ScooterinAB if a character has change 20 plus years and was around about 20 plus years before that then it's not recent bruh. Now his dinosaurs turned out fake and people had this fact for 20 years then that would be recent because dinosaurs being a thing has lasted a long ass time.

[@JadenSmithEyes]

I love this movie. I don't care if nothing makes any sense and the acting is all actingish. P.S. The cgi of the hulk is rubbery, BUTT somehow the way he interacts with the environment feels real and weighty. P.P.S. The 10 seconds of Hulk vs Absorbing Man as lightning in the clouds with a beautiful soundtrack -- this evokes all the comic lover emotions out of me.

[@leonconnelly5303]

The acting is hilarious in this movie it’s one of the best things about it

[@NeutralGuyDoubleZero]

That scene would've been great if it lasted more than 10 seconds and wasn't an obvious way to not spend much money on it

[@Maladjester]

They got the Hulk action right. There was no point in the entire movie where I was jerked out of the fiction because something looked wrong. When we remember this was done in 2003, the CG is an achievement of almost unimaginable proportions.

[@ConceptJunkie]

I want more Absorbing Man!

[@einootspork]

That's the difference between rendering and animation.

[@theformation3781]

An interpretation of Hulk I've come to like is that while Bruce faced experimentation and abuse from his father he kinda disassociated from the situation and formed an alternate personality, which is what manifests as the Hulk. (Now DID isn't something that really has a ton of studies on it and as it seems in recent modern psychiatry doesn't exist per se, but applying fictional psychology for a moment. Source I'm a med student) This makes some sense to me, especially when you consider that a more well adjusted individual, Jennifer Walters, basically remains the same when she hulks out. Since being a Hulk seems tied to emotional distress, someone who has had so much emotional distress he has compartmentalised it into a separate personality would be the strongest Hulk, and the most uncontrollable. This movie imo tries to set that up as the mild mannered Bruce who cannot get angry is merely "one personality" of Bruce, and under severe emotional distress he "switches" to cope with it as he did when he was young, and in the process, hulks out. Eric Bana's performance seems adjacent to this I think.

[@expendableindigo9639]

Have you read Immortal Hulk? They've really gone deeper into Bruce's DID in the comics since.

[@avgnfandon2]

@@expendableindigo9639 one of the best hulk/Marvel storytelling done in a while. Took me a year to grab all 50 1st prints!

[@hollandscottthomas]

@@expendableindigo9639 Immortal Hulk is an absolute banger of a series!

[@Matt-xc6sp]

I still have a Hulk sized souvenir soda from seeing this in theaters.

[@jordanthomas3279]

i want proof bro :)

[@burn5011]

Cinema*

[@simonmorgan8539]

Before I even the watch the vid, I'm going to just throw my hat in the ring here - I absolutely, unapologetically & unironically love this film. There. I said it.

[@andrewkelly7128]

Me too! It feels so different and unique tonely compared to everything released since.

[@evandickinson6393]

I had a 1 in 7 billion experience watching this movie...and I too love (my experience with) this movie!

[@MazeDaGr8]

I agree watching it back then and recently watching again people are too hard on this movie

[@Spider-SenseAtion]

I’m with you

[@Kango234]

I don't think it's perfect, but I enjoyed more than I was expecting when I rewatched. Not saying Rotten Tomatoes is the end all be all, but last I checked it had a "fresh" 68% which I think is fair. It's certainly more memorable than the 2008 movie.

[@NathanDrakeTheGreat]

Noteworthy to mention: this was the Marvel movie Kevin Feige was the most heavily involved in before the MCU. Even though The Incredible Hulk was a reboot, it was initially conceptualized as a sequel to this film. I think Kevin Feige probably appreciates what Ang Lee achieved here, but recognized it wouldn't have fit in with the MCU continuity. I still think it's the best standalone Hulk movie.

[@nehemiahsomers4141]

It was mainly Edward Norton that pushed for TIH to be a reboot, I'd guess if Feige had his way from the beginning this would still be canon

[@arashimiyazawa8165]

Regarding the motion capture, I've always really appreciated the motion capture in this movie. They do a really good job of making the Hulk look like his anger is born of constant frustration and annoyance. Little things where he's smacking his fists against the ground or frantically pulling cables and debris off of himself really sell it to me. The way the Hulk moves is really one of the only things I've ever liked about this movie.

[@FullMetalB]

Im glad they gave this movie the respect it deserves by giving it its own special trivia segment called "green trivia" that was made specifically for this video/movie.

[@experimentsininsanity4478]

I watched this movie in the 2000s on our big old CRT TV. Let me tell you, 50% of this movie was straight up too dark to see. Still have no idea how it ends.

[@RYMAN1321]

Yeah the lighting is a bit sub par, especially that dog fight scene. Cool fight, but you can’t really make out too much in it

[@ericwalsh2954]

I feel like hulk is one of those charecters who needs a show with a huge budget and a bunch of episodes or be part of a movie with others

[@lunavioleta001]

I love the tone of this film. Sometimes it did feel like a psychological horror, which I think every Hulk movie should be. And it also has one of the scariest villain. They did the abusive father better than another Marvel property which I won't named cause I don't want to deal with fan boys. This movie in my top 10 or 15 best marvel movies.

[@ItsMarvelUntold]

Been a big sandwich eater for a while now but I finally get to eat it early!🥪

[@evandickinson6393]

I finally subscribed too!

[@customconcern1]

Texting gf to pick me up a big sandwich

[@DiegoAlexio]

I loved this movie as a kid. Such a weird and rare comic book movie. It wasn't perfect but I can do nothing but appreciate what they were trying to do, the ideas and themes they were dealing with.

[@djangofett4879]

I didnt like it as a kid for some reason but i love it as an adult

[@SoCloseToToast]

Use to play that Hulk video game all the time lol

[@DisobedientSpaceWhale]

Toastie!!

[@jamesbedwell4715]

How many nameless henchmen and military guys did you throw off buildings and into chasms

[@Pedro2NR]

22:03 “People were looking for Daredevil but got this” I see what you did there.

[@DankTheGank5]

This is the most comic accurate Hulk so far in a movie.

[@Camedy_Central]

The seemingly unnoticed "I don't know who kevlar is" got me lol In case you're unaware, kevlar is the material in bullet proof vests.

[@cngotham4111]

I mean the trauma was probably one of the best parts of the movie. Also Eric getting angry was also pretty good.

[@RYMAN1321]

It had potential, but I never understood how he couldn’t figure out his dad killed his mother. I thought it was too obvious

[@afm_pictures]

This movie isn't perfect but it has a special place in my heart. I've been a Hulk fan since 2008 (I was 7 at the time, 21 at the time of this comment). I asked my dad to buy me a copy of The Incredible Hulk (2008) on DVD, because it was out at the time. In January 2009, I got a Hulk DVD... Just not the one I asked for. My old man explained that he tried to find it everywhere he could but no one had it. So, I watched this movie. And kid-me LOVED it. Then in November that same year, my parents got married. That night I found a copy of a Hulk Double Feature (The Incredible Hulk Returns and The Trial of The Incredible Hulk) in the back seat. When I told my dad, he said it's for me. I watched those movies and I LOVED it. My point is that this movie made me more of a Hulk fan than ever. To this day, I'm still a Hulk fan. And it's all because of my dad and how supportive he is about it. Thanks, old man.

[@spencerpommier806]

I think this movie kind of rules for being a weird Freudian nightmare. I also really like this take on Bruce banner.You'll never see something like this again and it's kind of sad even if it doesn't completely work.

[@hollandscottthomas]

Definitely check out the Immortal Hulk comics!

[@djangofett4879]

It works imo. it makes more sense than any other portrayal of bruce banner that i have seen in movies or comics.

[@dreadpiraterobin8379]

Spider-man's tragedy is absolutely his bread and butter in the comics. He even coined a term, "Parker luck," because of how often everything horrid happens at once.

[@1skSlade]

I remember this movie confusing me yet also terrifying me at 4 years old.

[@mickeymouse7726]

I agree it genuinely scared but also fascinated me

[@jobinmcgooch]

I don’t care what anyone says, I love this movie. Definitely my favorite Hulk movie 🤘🏽

[@PenitusVox]

I loved this movie as a small child and I still love it today. I think the contemplative and creepy (though not horror movie levels of creepy) nature of it work for me, especially for this particular character.

[@TooRudeProductions]

I love how this is supposed to be a depressing avant-garde movie yet it has Hulk punching a dog in the balls

[@bradysmith4405]

But going back and watching it after years of mcu, it’s still pretty shocking how stoic and introspective it is and how there’s definite effort to make it as grounded as a hulk movie could possibly be. It’s just so the opposite of what we’ve come to be used to in the genre. Closer in its aim to something like the dark knight and Logan, even if imperfect

[@aussieexpat]

I still really love this movie. I actually do love the final act, very greek tragedy.

[@Cdr2002]

Ang Lee in that behind the scenes footage gives me major Mokap from Mortal Kombat vibes and I’m all here for it

[@jackbushell9564]

I remember being 10 years old and begging my Dad to take me to see this. That soundtrack will always have a place in my heart

[@waywardlaser]

Ang Lee and editor Tim Squyres wanted to evoke comic book panels but instead they evoked the funniest PowerPoint presentation ever that totally clashes with the serious tone.

[@stephenbrady4352]

The speed at which that second short Caravan Of Garbage logo showed was Subliminal lol

[@matttweed8961]

I actually lately developed a new appreciation for this movie. I mean it's never a masterpiece or anything like that but I connected with a lot of the creative decisions that Ang Lee made and I enjoyed the character study in later life and despite the poor CGI and crazy transitions the Hulk felt extremely Hulk

[@z-rex6068]

Such an underrated film, I loved it as a kid but I appreciate it more now as an adult. I can understand why kids would get bored watching it though.

[@giraffenuzZ]

I saw this with my dad, it was a spur of the moment thing, I was like 8 years old, my sister was having a sleepover with her girlfriends and he's like f that noise. I will never forget this movie. Will forever be my favorite Hulk movie and Eric Bana is still my favorite Hulk

[@nailmcnugget9284]

Rumour has it Cricket went mad after his experiments on Banner, found God and then lost it all falling for an aluminium monster

[@scottgray4623]

I just think it's ironic that when Eric Bana sees Jennifer Connelly, he calms down and shrivels up, because the exact opposite thing happens to me.

[@ProjektTaku]

relatable...I too bulk up and become taller when I see jennifer connelly.

[@jacobmcmillan6787]

The action scene with the army is one of the hulks best scene

[@1D4ever]

It's the best

[@ReaperXC]

Re watched this two weeks ago and I love it. It's such a great movie. Even the Talbot death. No one gets to make their own superhero films these days.

[@LordJagd]

I think the trauma angle is actually one of the films greatest strengths, almost everything in the film has to do with the larger theme of anger and trauma. I also love how it accomplishes this through imagery and even abstract sequences, like the finale. It’s a much higher goal than what you see in almost every Marvel movie these days, not to mention she hulk.

[@pious83]

Basically this was a smarter film than many people expected/wanted from the Hulk. Still one of my favourite comic book films though.

[@djangofett4879]

yeah, this is by far the best portrayal of Bruce banner. The MCU Banner (mark ruffalo) basically jeff lebowski, the dude, but he gets mildly upset sometimes and turns into the hulk. The incredible hulk movie from 2008 (ed norton) was just a mild mannered guy with a heart condition that turns him into a monster. there was no depth, nothing interesting whatsoever about those versions of bruce banner. everything about this movie is better than 2008 incredible hulk. This movie is better each time i watch it which is the opposite of most superhero movies which are best on the first watching

[@ProjektTaku]

@@djangofett4879 nah bro, the avengers (2012) hulk is the best live action film banner and much better than the 2003 hulk.

[@nehemiahsomers4141]

@@djangofett4879 it's easily the best version of the Hulk, which sucks because it's kind of bad

[@tranquilk5912]

Why do I love this hulk and film so much, exactly trauma. I mean that as remember his father was abusive but the one person banner and the jade giant had in common for who they feared the most

[@croissant87712]

It’s so cool that they catered Green Trivia specifically for the Hulk movie! Nice job guys

[@barricade1391]

Loved it then and still do So many great scenes like the tank fight, the helicopter fight, the dream jump scare where he’s falling from the atmosphere, the lightning scene. All amazing

[@robotradar]

I never liked the Hulk mostly because I was scared of him as a kid. To me he was just a scary Monster and I would never have thought I could relate to this character. A friend of mine, huge fan of the TV Hulk, dragged me into this and what can I say: I loved it. Especially because they made the Hulk a manifestation of trauma, angst and the rage it comes with it. It all made sense to me now. Plus I loved that they took the comic book seriously. Never forget how they made comic book movies at that time and while doing so had to emphasize all day how low level comic books are. This one digs for the greek tragedy within the comic book story itself and thus tries to elevate it on par with high culture. And that is why I will die on a hill defendig this movie.

[@hollandscottthomas]

The shots of him in the desert, sad and alone and hunted are just **chef's kiss**

[@Pedrg93]

This is definitely the greenest Hulk

[@richardmohr9218]

Thanks fellas, nice review! One grizzle though: Blue Harvest was not the working title for StarWars; It was, in fact, a cover story for the making of Return of the Jedi, in order to throw the press off the track of the new film's content, and help keep the plot a secret. An entire sub-marketing campaign was created with tee-shirts, caps and posters for Blue Harvest: Horror Beyond Imagination to throw people off the track of what the production team was doing in the desert. Apparently, today, those original tees and caps etc are some of the most valuable collectables of all because most of the crew who were told to wear them at the time simply threw them away after filming. I'm pretty sure it was on of the most elaborate and expensive marketing misdirections ever. Now, sadly, all but forgotten

[@gridlo]

Comic panel transitions are about as surface level as you can get in a comic book translation. It'd be like adaptating a novel and using page numbers.

[@ThreadBomb]

It certainly doesn't replicate the experience of reading a comic book.

[@gridlo]

@@ThreadBomb it wasn't even done right. Like they said, multiple angles of the same character. No artist would draw 5 panels of the same helicopter flying again and again.

[@madielarson609]

I'd love to see a Caravan of Garbage for: 1. Indiana Jones franchise 2. Pirates of the Caribbean frinchise 3. Batman Mask of the Phantasm 4. Ghost Rider 1 and 2 5. Hellboy 1, 2 and reboot

[@TheNintendo12]

Here for hellboy

[@tc-channelhobby4051]

The disconnect part in 8:11 is actually very genius as even his father pointed this out, Banner Bruce is just a shell, a hallowed one for the real bruce, his twin brother to come out and its the hulk. Adds more sense as well that Bruce and hulk are separate beings like hulk 2003 looks like Doomguy before said Doomguys face even existed, it was still pixels. To be honest, Hulk, no matter how heroic he does, will never be tolerated by everyone and even earth itself for a long time, his father made this very clear and in the comics, he has the most shittiest moments where he has to have a happy ending and then said happy ending turn into a nightmare, Jarella is one example and the most painful is losing Caiera and more that followed and even before these two example, it has been living hell for Bruce no matter the good moments he has, and this film has captured it perfectly along with his mannerisms that are signs of his problems but unnoticed even by him, heck he cannot even remember anything when he was a child as it was the hulk in control. And also there is even another website they made that shows more of hulk stats, a video of it can be seen in archives hulk KZbin channel but the website itself is no longer available and can be access through time machine website if its still ok as with the flash player becoming obsolete. Including the Nano meds but it can no longer be access as flash became a footnote. But yeah I have to agree that some split screens are unnecessary and the camera shots for it are not needed, to be honest, more dialogue should have been added that will say a lot more information about the hulk and banner from scientist, military, and even the civilian population seeing hulk for the first time and characters as well, like rick jones, the dark lightings as well as it is hard to see, they should just increase the brightness a bit for more people to see The fight scenes are not bad and I loved it when Ang Lee was suppose to add more but due to money and tech, it never happened, overall it was good.

[@joethy]

You missed a great opportunity to say something like: “You won’t like it when I’m Ang Lee”

[@mickeymouse7726]

Danny Elfmans score for Spider-Man, hulk and Batman are incredible

[@kennypowers1945]

I love this movie, it’s my favorite hulk movie by far. This is the strongest, meanest and greenest hulk

[@IcyDiamond]

Imagine this Hulk being in the MCU instead of Norton’s Or Ruffalo’s Hulk

[@ultimamage3]

He'd have folded Thanos. The MCU forgot that Hulk gets stronger the angrier he gets and also that he has a healing factor.

[@WlatPziupp]

I just wish they used the design from the Norton one. In that one every muscle's strained and blown up to and past the absolute limit. He actually looks monstrous and unstoppable, like a mountain that can jump through a building to grab a box of grenades about to explode and get pissed off when they blow shrapnel into his face. Current hulk looks like a big friendly green giant who is super strong. Norton Hulk you wouldn't bother trying to shoot or cut, current Hulk looks like that should work just fine

[@IcyDiamond]

@@WlatPziupp Yeah Norton’s Hulk had a great design, though I see why they changed it, so Ruffalo could have a matching Hulk design

[@everburn]

@@WlatPziupp completely agree

[@Mike28625]

What people don't get about the end of the Hulk is the last second redemption of the father. The father is absorbing the Hulk and he sees that all the pain is his fault. It's implied in the audio. The bubble that forms is the father sacrificing himself to shield his son from the gamma bomb.

[@ultimamage3]

That's interesting. The audio, especially when he cries out that "It's not stopping... Take it back!" may have come across to audiences more like the reaction a Narcissist has when their victim finally lashes out. Shocked, of course, but only insomuch as it affects and hurts them personally. David showed absolutely no care for the fact that he cause Bruce so much pain before. He even wished Bruce was dead/that he'd succeeded in killing him as a child, straight to his face, and the plan was to take Hulk's power so that Bruce could "sleep now, and forget forever", i.e. Die. Thus, the bubble is his mutation trying and failing to cope with the surge of energy. Otherwords, a Narcissist faces the consequences of their own actions and shows a smidge of personal regret. What David got was more than he asked for since the well of Bruce's power (from his trauma) was bottomless.

[@Mike28625]

@@ultimamage3 i can see that. I suppose I'm an optimist, deep down. I feel like, there's a sense of love as bruce is sinking under the water And he's not the Hulk anymore And we see the gamma blast from his perspective and its sort of womb like in a way. Maybe it was coincidental to the fathers hubris. Maybe it was redemptive. Maybe it was instinctive reflex. It's a cool movie!

[@CybershamanX]

(22:20) Hey! It's Nord Man! 😎🤘

[@GreatJaes]

you owe it to yourselves to watch this movie, it's a work of staggering "wait, what did they just film? And how did they film, edit, and present it? Nobody does it like that, and I mean nobody."

[@nalbis]

i love ang lee as a director and this movie has a lot going for it and really ties into his filmography thematically well

[@Fuzzy_Barbarian]

Whoever edited it so that Caravan of Garbage is something tragic... good job.

[@FiggityJones]

I rewatched this recently to see if it was any good. Hadn’t seen it since I was a kid in theaters. Thought it was a lot better than I remember, but still not quite right. I didn’t hate my experience with it though. But also yeah what James said.

[@Aesopism]

I think I remember seeing this on DVD, it was a copy my dad brought back from Spain. While he was deployed over there with the Air force he bought a binder full of DVDs and all of them were ripped or recordings of theater screens. So not only did I see the leaked version of this, I had a physical copy.

[@brett9863]

I love that the angrier he gets the bigger he gets, or stronger..

[@ProjektTaku]

eh, I think it make's him too big, hulk in the comic grows like 1 foot when he gets peak angry, not 6 feet like this one.

[@Eliott-K]

"You think they might know that from the title and thumbnail?!" Me, who remembers the Twilight Videos when they first released: No... no we may not know that...

[@heelmoxley365]

Still waiting on those Batman reviews😭

[@spencermagon686]

My friend growing up had an older brother who let us watch him play GameCube and something about the flat looking dogs in this game kept us both up at night

[@ottomattix86]

To do this again with a more focused story line, better CGI, and a better selection of when to use the panels.... Could be a really solid movie. I wish it was done now.

[@stefanfilipovits21]

Did you know the original name of the hulk was Blue Harvest?

[@rim7115]

I really appreciate the lengths James goes to in naming each trivia segment specifically for the movie. Green Trivia for The Hulk Genius

[@mikeglasswell-gameplay]

I always had a soft spot for this film. I think it was an interesting character study. loved the tank fight and the diversity of the end fight with absorbing man. It was not just one big hulk type fighting another big hulk type.

[@knightfallprotocol]

Finally the "green trivia" bit actually works.

[@mojomogul]

I totally forgot about this movie and the transitions alone make me want to rewatch it now

[@deadfool3344]

I honestly think the CGI looks better than the other later Hulk films 🤷‍♂️

[@andrewchandler9303]

Been waiting for u guys to do something else for weeks now, finally😂

[@FatMarlonBrando]

0:19 - 0:23 unlocked some serious childhood memories, loved that show, and for some reason I saw that episode in particular a lot.

[@barrivia]

Hahaha the stage play bit 👏

[@TheNintenBits]

Speed racer perfected the panel-like transitions imo

[@MiguelJimenez-uc3yz]

I've seen Chopper long time ago and I gotta say... I love it. Eric Bana is amazing in it an the movie itself is just incredible If you've seen the Tom Hardy movie Bronson, it's basically Bronson set in Australia with Eric Bana instead of Tom Hardy

[@jmace2424]

I remember seeing this movie in theaters. Pretty sure I left thinking “Well that was… something 🤷‍♂️”

[@djangofett4879]

Thats how i felt too. then i rewatched it years later on bluray and the movie completely clicked with me. this is a great HULK movie and one of the best superhero movies ever.

[@jankdotTV]

Ang Lee apparently visited the VFX studio on this only once, and when the studio head asked what Lee wanted to do with the film - he handed the guy a smooth pebble and said "This. I want it to feel like this".

[@EpsilonKnight2]

That sounds too crazy to be fake so I wanna believe it lol

[@cheesyballer]

Wait a minute.. isn’t this the film that started off with the working title “Blue Harvest”, which also happened to be the same used for the 1977 hit film Star Wars??

[@jaromor8808]

2003 is the best attempt at Hulk so far

[@bradysmith4405]

It might be the most underrated superhero movie ever. At the very least its ambitions aim towards serious drama and telling a story.