Hull A Review | Star Citizen 3.17 4K Gameplay

[@toecutter9372]

The Hull A is a great little ship, I love the inside layout, very clean and functional. I don’t own one, don’t need one, but if you’re just getting into the game/cargo hauling, it’s a cute little puddle-jumper

[@Farrister]

So cute!

[@jingo1410]

I ccu'd to one during IAE as a stepping stone and wound up liking it way more than I thought I would. Keeping it for now, having a lot of fun hauling

[@likeorasgod]

Makes me think of space truckers for sure with the comfort like some of the modern day trucks for long hauls.

[@KarlBarbosa]

The Hull A is gorgeous in and out. I hope CIG use it as inspiration when reworking the Freelancer.

[@canny8228]

I have a Hull A and really like the way they designed it.

[@Farrister]

I like it too

[@billyhyde1415]

I've putted around a lot in a Hull A over the last few cycles, and it's certainly got its own sort of charm, but I can tell you that while it's been enjoyable, two things it hasn't been are especially profitable or efficient. The Hull A is the only small ship other than the MPUV that struggles to escape atmosphere under planetary gravity conditions. On moons and in space it's fine, but I'd half-expect the Hull A's big sister, the Starfarer, to beat it in a race from Area 18 to Baijini point. That, plus the weak deceleration and maneuvering thrusters, mean you have to take more time, and more care, landing -anywhere-, not just in a top-down hangar. Most Hull A pilots I've known have eschewed the creature comforts eventually, returning to their old favorites. That being said, I CAN think of a very specific, but also very general, place that the Hull A serves particularly well -- it makes a great (and cheap) companion ship for someone who regularly works out of a particular base of operations, particularly in support of a small mining or salvage operation. Its cargo capacity is just about right to collect the refined output of three low-intensity, non-quantanium Prospector runs, for instance, and it provides some internal gear storage and amenities that a mercenary, either space-borne OR on foot, will find particularly helpful. In the future, I can see it also being quite helpful working in tandem with, say, a solo salvager, since the Vulture's cargo capacity (like the Prospector's!) means it can't stay out doing its job very long without someone else to carry the output.

[@Farrister]

Great notes Billy, and good point about the 2x Prospector runs! (I know you said 3, but I'm a quanta hoarder these days xD)

[@Brian_Camp]

I’ve missed your videos they’re always so peaceful like a warm fireplace to come to in this dark and stormy verse ❤

[@Farrister]

Ah that's kind of you to say!

[@Lodethebig]

I consider this ship to be like a 'space caravan' It looks pretty neat on the in- and outside! Good video!

[@thomasbouvier3203]

It does have a van 80’s skin xD wich look super cool

[@Farrister]

Thanks, it does have that look to it!

[@Chaffee738]

This really has a comfy camper van feel and I'd like more ships like that.

[@Farrister]

A bit like the Nomad too?

[@Chaffee738]

@@Farrister Yep, that's one, although the sharp lines and inorganic atmosphere don't quite land the comfy feel like the Hull A does. The new Cutter is also kind of there but it's Drake and not exactly comfy or secure. I'm personally hoping for a Crusader starter ship, they have a nice blend of militaristic monochrome and some level of comfort. It looks like pretty much every manufacturer is going to have at least one, so well, fingers crossed for next year, maybe IAE 2953.

[@breaker19rmr]

Great little ship! I love the new MISC design language. I’ve got an A, B and C in my hangar. The A is a bit too lean on scu for real profitability, so as soon as it’s available I’ll melt it in favor of the B for planet side ops. If I could change one thing about the A, it would be to rotate the exterior door control pad 90 degrees so that it faces inward towards the component area, I have to do a weird little j turn to access it when approaching from the cockpit. Speaking of the cockpit, glass below the dash serves no use for the pilot since the dash blocks it entirely and actually makes it easier to see into the cockpit, not out. I’d rather replace the glass with metal.

[@QuickStudy4]

You do get the Hull A as a Loaner for the Hull B and C, if you were going to melt it anyway when the B is released.

[@hanswurst9866]

And give the interior a new paint job!

[@Farrister]

Oh wow, do you need all 3?!

[@breaker19rmr]

@@Farrister lol no. Ultimately I'd like to end up with a B and C. I should have ccu'd my A to the B or C (since it's the loaner ship for both), but I was off my ccu game. So now I've got a small fleet of A's.

[@Gofr5]

The Hull B with its 350+ SCU yet soloability and Freelancer-Connie size dimensions I think is going to be the sweet spot. A lot of people overlook it for the Hull C, but the B will be able to squeeze into smaller spaces, have lower operating costs, and is ultimately cheaper than anything in its category while carrying over twice as much as the Connie Taurus. I really look forward to seeing the Hull B.

[@Farrister]

Quite possibly! I'm interested to see them

[@caseytwill]

Yeah, the B holds a nice amount of cargo for its size. It's the one I pledged for and I'm excited for it to be added in-game!

[@timsgta]

2 more years for the B lol

[@caseytwill]

@@timsgta It's been what... 7 years since I pledged for it? What's 2 more? 🤣

[@Murasame13]

@@caseytwill 🤦‍♀

[@sabatheus]

She's a fine little ship. I'm proud to own ALL the Hulls.

[@Farrister]

All of them?!

[@sabatheus]

@@Farrister Yes, I have the MISC Complete pack. 😅

[@TypicalDad1980]

I love this ship. Sure the Cutlass or Freelancer series would be better for all around game play but if you know you want to haul cargo and are in to the sim or role play part of the game it’s great. Really looking forward to the Hull C!

[@Farrister]

Me too!

[@MrLinkkid]

I think it's really cheap too which is probably the main draw

[@reamoinmcdonachadh9519]

Thank you for another fair and objective ship review!! MISC do make handsome ships and it's nice to see them operate (more or less) as they are designed to.

[@Farrister]

Thanks, I agree!

[@cookedtomato]

Why haven't I seen you before? Awesome video!

[@Farrister]

Thank you - plenty more to see ;)

[@nightswatcher]

If I was into cargo hauling this would probably be the one I would get. At least for my intro ship.

[@Farrister]

It's a nice specialised choice, I agree

[@Murasame13]

I am getting into cargo hauling and this seems like a good option for me. Plus I occasionally rent a prospector when I want to do something different so I imagine the hull-a will be pretty useful for hauling refined goods.

[@mg_t9917]

My favourite ship, best looking design especially when loadet

[@Farrister]

I'm excited to see the bigger ones!

[@davewills6121]

Not into cargo at all, yet the ''Hull - A'' is kinda cute, and the Paints are very nice. CIG are making better ships this decade for sure.

[@Farrister]

The quality is improving, and I love it!

[@pugjob4612]

i like what they're doing with these ships now. The Cutter doesn't fly like other small ships. It basically handles exactly like a slower Cutlass. Hull A doesn't handle anything like a ship it's size should. Fly's like the raft, and probably larger hulls. The starter ship skills will actually transfer over to the next step up. As of now there's a jarring change for new players going from the starter ships to the mid-size types. I think they really started this with the 100 series, perfect training for the quicker next-steps like the Avenger and 300 series.

[@Farrister]

I hadn't really thought about it like that, but I see what you mean

[@MisterFoxton]

100i is one of the slowest starters despite its looks. Handles atmosphere better though.

[@SolarWindsRider]

I was looking to try Hull A a lot and when I did during the IAE, I was hugely disappointed in it. People said that it flies like a brick and I didn't expect it to fly like 100i, of course, but it really is a brick. It has awful acceleration and breaking, and it gets worse with cargo ramp extended. It's a little weird for its size. The other thing I liked about it from the reviews is a cozy interior, with proper living area, not a corridor with a bed. And again, it's kinda nice, but it's all scratched, paint chipped. You buy a brand new shiny ship and it looks like people lived there for 20 years. So yeah, I guess, still waiting when CIG will release a Cutlass-size RSI ship)

[@hanswurst9866]

It currently flies as if fully loaded at all times and it really is too sluggish to be the van life solo ship one might dream of.

[@JustaThing]

A good medium sized RSI ship that's well rounded is a need for me Like 1-3 crew or 1-2 crew idk

[@Farrister]

Fair enough!

[@mertoktheowl8111]

there is also a button on the right bottum of the door (easyer to reach) with a "enter ship" option

[@Farrister]

Good to know!

[@ronkrueger-capt_koron6112]

Nice review of the Hull A Farrister. It looks like a nice ship, and I know there have been a few people waiting patiently for it. I have to say, that it's not a ship that I'm interested in. Large scale cargo running isn't my cup of tea. I also know that the Caterpillar carries more, and has been available longer. The Hull A is a pretty small ship in comparison, and I believe there are other ships available that are bigger and more diverse in their capabilities. In fact, I think my Carrack will carry more cargo in it's pods. Oh well. You still did a great job on the review. Take care, fly safe, and I'll see you in the verse.

[@Farrister]

I think the bigger ships in the Hull series will offer more - remember, this is the smallest one Koron! o7

[@ronkrueger-capt_koron6112]

@@Farrister I am aware of it being the smallest in the Hull series. o7

[@saleseng]

I have a Hull C I passed on the Hull A however owning almost all the ships currently flyable and many of the concepts I have one as a loaner it seems for perpetuity😊

[@Farrister]

Haha, I think Hull C is in development though?!

[@herbaceousboredom9584]

For me - if you only wanted to ship cargo - and the Hull A was available as a starter package it would be a clear winner amongst the other starter packages, but its real money price needs to come down 30% - 40% to be attractive. Otherwise (as you say), comparing its length when carrying cargo, you have the slightly more expensive Freelancer - obviously it has a broader beam but you can probably land it in similar places, and it has more optionality (box carrying, combat, multi-player). For a little more real world money, and a similar length again, you have the RAFT and MAX! I think the Hull B is far more interesting (for only 50 ish % more money than Hull A). It's a similar length to the more expensive Corsair and Taurus but is cheaper than the MAX, and it has all that cargo capacity. TLDR: for me, as much as I like the looks of the Hull A, it's way overpriced, isn't a starter package, and is outperformed by the superior Freelancer at only $20 more. The Freelancer would give you more gameplay opportunities and multi-player, and you'd probably be able to stick with it longer. But then, the in-game price (when we know it) may make the Hull A a competitive step up from a starter package.

[@Farrister]

Yup, agreed :)

[@hanswurst9866]

Yay a Hull A review! Did anyone notice that they changed the internal texture of the metal around the doors and frames to look like paint flaking off even in places nothing will ever touch the metal? It's so exaggerated that the van life experience is ruined for me. I don't understand why they are trying so hard to make it look ugly on the inside all of a sudden.

[@Farrister]

I've heard a couple of people say that now!

[@jamesatkinson3699]

I agree. This ruined it for me. While I appreciate it not having a super Origin feel, they overdid it.

[@Reurbo]

I do wonder how the entry into the Hull A will have to be modified to be a docking collar since, like the Freelancer, the ladder blocks entry into and out of the ship when not extended to climb into the ship. I am looking forward to seeing the Hull C when it finally comes out and my Hull D at some point, but I think having proper space hauler missions needs to be implemented first... missions that require having a certain amount of cargo space, you fly to the pickup location, load up the cargo, and are given a destination on where to deliver before getting paid. To add complexity, if you have the cargo space, being able to pickup multiple missions and different cargo from each until your ship is as full as it can be before going to each of the drop-off points.. maybe adding timers for certain missions needing higher priority or to force time management if you plan to try doing multiple cargo missions at the same time. The box carrier missions are ok, but more for intro to cargo than the space semi truck drivers wanting to move a lot more without only having to the option to buy the cargo and resell it somewhere else.

[@Farrister]

Oh it's a really good point, I hadn't even considered that!

[@DanTourish]

Great little space RV

[@Farrister]

But with lots of space in the trunk!

[@SithLandlord]

Nice review, however I wish you would do a outside tour of the ship in the beginning for all your Reviews. Also, you failed to mention the most critical information for a cargo hauler... its storage capacity. You should also ideally reference that amount to other comparable ships to give some perspective.

[@Farrister]

Noted. Although I cover the cargo capacity a few times in this one!

[@darrentantoco]

Farrister is a vampire: confirmed!

[@Farrister]

Haha

[@robertmandl9326]

I never really considered this ship... until now. With the latest I learned about the upcoming 3.23.2 update for freight gameplay the Hull A design might be one of the most comfortable small cargo ships available.

[@xsto01]

Wouldnt it be cool if the HUll-A had an option to eject a specific number of cargo to maybe get pirats to go after that so you can escape...??? This option is only for ships that carry cargo on the outside. So there is a bigger diffrence to the freelancer max.

[@friendlyspacedragon7250]

I do quite like the Hull A. It's very good for its role and even has a well thought out interior aside from the lower windshield that you cannot see through the pilot console. If the Hull A is anything to go by I'm very much looking forward to the bigger Hulls. Unfortunately the game right now is in a state where small quantities of cargo make so little profit you would earn as much if not more using the ship for VLRTs instead.

[@Farrister]

And 3.18 could turn things into the Wild West for cargo hauling! But also interested to see the bigger hulls

[@papalooser9991]

I do own one and I love it. Though I most likely won't keep it. There are better options for transportation and I should be able to get one ingame at a later point in time easily, if I really want it.

[@Farrister]

Hopefully, I really hope the in-game price is accessible

[@Xorrin]

The only things that bother me are that the escape pod is one the same side of the door, so theoretically with the door open it could not be ejected, they should have reversed the position of the bed and the kitchen. Also they should really implement a variable of mobility and speed based on the cargo carried, a ship like this closed and empty should be much more maneuverable

[@Farrister]

Agreed!

[@igrvks]

I really wish they would rework the freelancer windscreen to be like in Hull A for increased visibility.

[@Farrister]

Yes please!

[@CB-io8oi]

Makes you excited for the bigger siblings!

[@Farrister]

For sure!

[@pauldonohue7536]

I think I'll get this, with a view of upgrading to the B eventually. Right now I own a Cutlass Black, but I'm looking to get a fleet of different ships that cater for different roles. Cutlass Black (multi crew, Box, Daily driver) Protector (mining) Hull A, eventually B (cargo hauler) Would also like a Dragonfly and ROC eventually too

[@7MPhonemicEnglish]

If there was high dollar freight that could only be hauled in containers, this ship might make sense, otherwise truckers would be looking for a smaller but tougher ship to carry the most expensive freight but have much stronger sheilding and weapons loadout. The biggest cargo haulers would need fighter escorts.

[@Farrister]

I wonder if they will boost profits to encourage more hauling next patch, otherwise the risk of piracy might just be too great

[@7MPhonemicEnglish]

@@Farrister I think that this ship needs something that it can specialize in. For example; lifting containers off of planets with gravity, which the big container ships shouldn't be able to do OR fend off pirate attacks on it's own by virtue of powerful shields and strong hull etc. It needs a niche.

[@peterzimmerman1114]

It's great, almost perfect as long as you don't get into combat. It's ofcourse not built for combat, it's a cargotruck with all the comforts of home it seems.

[@Farrister]

Agreed!

[@Navoii.]

I had the Hull A a while back, and I was going to get it again now with my CCU chain, but I took the Gladius instead to see how it was. I prefer the Merlin over Gladius ngl.

[@Farrister]

Wow - Merlin over Gladius?

[@Navoii.]

@@Farrister It's more nimble and it's the size of a modern fighter. Might just be me though

[@Kyle-sr6jm]

Even if you don't use it as a cargo ship, as SC gets bigger, a ship with long Q range will be useful for moving yourself around.

[@Kyle-sr6jm]

VAMPIRE!

[@Farrister]

Quite possibly!

[@nilsgerdes6747]

The Hull A is great for enrty level trading. It's cheap, It can Land with Cargo, Can haul quite a bit for it's tiny size and looks comfortable to live in it for a time. I got to test it in the PTU and it was a fun test ride. I already have bigger better haulers, so this Isn't for me at this point, but it would have been when starting out. I might consider the Hull B, as it can still land with cargo. If I could name this ship, I'd name it sausage!🤣

[@Farrister]

lol sausage?

[@nilsgerdes6747]

@@Farrister If that ship ever gets a pink skin I'll be sooo happy... 🤣

[@Fletchman1313]

I didn't realize the QT tank was so big. I'll have to reevaluate the Hull-A. I test flew it a few times and wasn't impressed, but then again I"m currently not doing trading.

[@hanswurst9866]

But bear in mind that none of these values are final. Given the insane fuel amounts of the Cutter and C8R a fuel tank rework for all ships is to be expected for Pyro.

[@Farrister]

Currently in game, it's substantial!

[@Simplechioces]

Love it man! Now, do the Cutter:)

[@Farrister]

Soon (TM) ;)

[@Bubble_0f_d00m]

I think the Hull A is going to reach the highest echelons of NPC use in the 'verse. If ship spotting was like bird watching, the Hull A will be the pigeon of Star Citizen.

[@Farrister]

Oh but I don't really like pigeons xD

[@johnboyd9713]

Man the Hull A and Raft are two of my favorite ships in the game, but I have a BMM (read: C2 at the moment) so I have no reason to ever downgrade to em :(

[@Farrister]

I loved seeing the new footage of the BMM last year, sadly it sounds as though work on it has slowed down :(

[@keysi7558]

Good review 👍🏼

[@Farrister]

Thank you!

[@johnboyd9713]

I see this and imagine what the gold standard freelancer will be like. The living quarters and cockpit are SO MUCH NICER

[@Farrister]

Agree!

[@nickeling2776]

I'd get one for the time I'm playing solo, maybe upgrade it to a Hull B when it comes out, and if I'm playing with friends I'd also buy a Hull C as well. You should take a Colossus QT for the Hull, because its slightly mor fuel efficent and faster and for 3.18 you should buy better shields, maybe Palisade and FR-66, so you survive till the next jump.

[@itllBuffGaming]

Like this ship. It should be much cheaper though. The same in game price as a cutty and only 300k off a freelancer is absolutely insane lol

[@Farrister]

Yeah...

[@justasrandom6609]

Don't get why did they split the cockpit vertically with a huge metal panel that blocks the view

[@Farrister]

"MISC" xD

[@boingthegoat7764]

I wonder if this might make a good companion for my prospector...If the price is right, I can stop renting a cutlass black every time I want to run a refined load to Area 18.

[@Farrister]

The cargo capacity is ~ 2 Prospector loads of quanta

[@ryanorionwotanson4568]

Really cool looking

[@totallynotthecia]

doesn't the ladder block the airlock?

[@Farrister]

Maybe it does lol - it doesn't currently do anything anyway!

[@oonue]

Love the layout of the Hull A, just hate the flight characteristics. The Raft flies soo much better in comparison.

[@Farrister]

I know what you mean

[@zman_o7]

Interesting ship good review have a great weekend Farrister o7 😎👍

[@Farrister]

o7 Zman, you too!

[@Charlie_Echo]

I like the Hull A but it seems a bit pointless to me - I'd rather have a more flexible multi-purpose ship with a comparable capacity, like the Freelancer, Cutlass Black or Spirit C1. I'm definitely keen for the B or C though!

[@Farrister]

Fair enough - interested to see how they scale with the bigger versions!

[@JDBriceProductions]

That in-game price would be the thing I watch for. Currently, a Freelancer still feels like a better choice, with piracy ramping up.

[@Farrister]

I agree; albeit a more expensive choice too

[@JDBriceProductions]

@@Farrister True. If nothing else, the Hull A is definitely friendlier to s starting budget.

[@leperamoonwalker5883]

i imagine that a certain breed of people would just use the hull a to lug around there belongings and just use the ship as a exploration vessel.

[@MrPantheraUmbra]

Why not to AK00 fastest engine in the game? You can do several trips with it across Stanton without refueling.

[@Farrister]

Could do! I kinda mush the mil-spec drives into one xD

[@MrPantheraUmbra]

@@Farrister The reason why I say this is because, up until I saw this video I thought Cutter is fastest long range ship. For me that is a massive selling point for Cutter. And since I don't do hauling I've mistakenly thought Cutter has the longest range followed by Eclipse, small engine-wise. You know how the usual route of advice for new players is, buy Aurora or Mustang, earn enough in game money for Titan or just upgrade to it with real money. Then from there next usual goal is Cutlass Black and after that depends on what you want to do. Well with Cutter I don't really see the point of wasting money on a Titan or a Cutlass, neither of them are great for VHRT bounties while doing Mercenary bunker jobs, depending on a rank you can earn 60K or 75k or even more I just didn't get to that rank yet. And it can be done just with basic undersuit and gun. And it pays more than VHRT bounty with less effort. What I am trying to say is, although bit more expensive but I feel the same with Hull A with a bonus of doing cargo runs with fastest engine in the game.

[@FrazzleCat]

Not a bad looking ship, though I personally wouldn't want the chipped paint interior so I wouldn't buy the ship, in-game or out. I like the look of it aside from that, however, and the cockpit reminds me a bit of the Dolphin & similar designs in Elite. I've seen other people call the Hull A "an NPC ship that exists to be a target", and yeah, I can kind of see that.

[@hanswurst9866]

So true. The flaking paint is a recent "innovation" that came with the lastest patch and it's so ugly and also it doesn't make sense that only this one particular metal type is looking like that even in places nobody ever touches the walls. It made me melt my Hull A because I hated it so much.

[@FrazzleCat]

@@hanswurst9866 mhm and who would buy a brand new ship that came with its paint flaking off, straight off the factory floor? I could see it as a wear-and-tear feature if you don't repair your ship after using it for X days, but, like you said, even then some of the locations of the flaking doesn't make sense. It could be a nice touch if added correctly, but as it is, eh, yeah, I'd melt it too if I had it. XD

[@Farrister]

Fair enough! I've heard that said of the Cutlass Steel

[@FrazzleCat]

@@Farrister Oh I'm not familiar with that ship (or am I and my memory is being a goof again). I should check it out. 🤔 edit: Checked your video and remembered why I forgot about the ship. :D

[@j.d.4697]

This ship is automatically OP cause it comes with cookies. By the way am I the only one who thinks in the retracted look it would even work as an explorer or even combat ship?

[@Farrister]

Cookies!

[@SGTJackMorgan]

I've never been a huge fan of Misc ships, barring a little interest in the Reliant series. The Hull-A changed that for me somewhat, and gave me an appreciation for what MISC ships could be. My hope is that eventually the Freelancers can be brought up to the Hull's level(c'mon CIG we really don't need four seats in the Freelancer cockpit)

[@hanswurst9866]

The Freelancer series would benefit so much from a gold standard pass to get rid of all those unnecessary beds and get an airlock and so on.

[@Farrister]

I can't explain why, but I quite like a lot of the MISC ships!

[@Spawndex]

3:00 sad it uses loo roll and not seashells

[@Farrister]

haha

[@essentialasa]

I wish they just gave it a small bay. Just 1 or 2 SCU.

[@jkleylein]

It's turned out out somewhat sleeker than the early concept drawings. I suppose the other ships in the series will follow suit . . . I'm not sure how I feel about that. I thought the concepts were utilitarian while still fitting in with the other MISC ship styling. Just ugly enough to be working ships.

[@Farrister]

A scathing review of the aesthetics lol

[@siroja054]

👍👍👍

[@Farrister]

Thumbs up!

[@gittyupalice96]

Farrister, You're a smart man.. You don't tell us to subscribe, but merely suggest we consider it. This is why I subscribed, and then un-subscribed so that I could subscribe again. ;) Cheers

[@Farrister]

Haha! I think it's more that people should know why it's useful for them to subscribe - the "what's in it for me?" question!

[@justalex4214]

As cool as the hull a looks I can't help but feel like it is pretty useless all things considered. It simply doesn't have enough cargo space to justify the massive disadvantages over other ships this size. The cutty black for example has a little less capacity but is heavily armed, flies better and has a cargo space that can be used to transport ground vehicles as well. Even the freelancer series seems to be a much better choice for entry level cargo running than this thing. It really comes down to the ingame price because if this thing costs more than 500k I'd say it's not worth getting.

[@Farrister]

Yeah, as you say, it all depends on price. If it's cheap, it becomes a stepping stone cargo hauler. The 64 SCU is nothing compared to the big truckers, but is much more than any other starter ship, which might make it compelling if priced properly

[@justalex4214]

@@Farrister yes, it clearly has an advantage there, but the thing I'm wondering is who this ship is actually for. Newcomers to SC are clearly better off with any of the other starters and experienced players and dedicated cargo haulers likely already have better options available. The only way this is gonna be used might be those "zero to hero" kind of scenarios, but other than that it's kind of a head scratcher for me tbh.

[@brentschmogbert]

Your videos are great, but this background song is such a nuisance 😅😅😅

[@Farrister]

Oh no! It's stuck in my head for reviews now!!!

[@DEADSTARZ]

taking a poop while showering sounds good im not going to lie

[@Farrister]

"Ah, I see you're a man of culture as well"

[@dillerhiller]

its 108.17 euros right now

[@ryanmeyer8633]

:o

[@XxXDOMINIONXxX]

Hull A is basically useless when its outclassed in every aspect by MISC's own Freelancer base and Max. It's a proof of concept and nothing more. why anyone would choose this over a base Freelancer at 66 SCU or the MAX's 122 for cargo hauling would be questionable other than just liking the ship. It has smaller fuel tanks, intakes, less weapons and shields and the cargo is not hull protected. For 20$ more you get 2x the ship with a base freelancer. Or id even go with a Cutty for less SCU but more firepower. Maneuverability is completely garbage as well compared to the freelancer series. The Hull A and the Raft are completely useless for their size and class.

[@hanswurst9866]

The Freelancer series is extremely old and in dire need of a concept overhaul. The whole interior makes no sense and the mail slot view is terrible. Not everyone always min-maxes everything in this game according to stats. Also, the Hull A as 4 times as much QT fuel. The Cutlass doesn't even have a toilet.

[@XxXDOMINIONXxX]

​@@hanswurst9866 Thats literally... what... you... do with dedicated haulers, min max... maximum capacity for maximum cargo. lol

[@Farrister]

Price. Price would have to be the reason. If the Hull A was considerably cheaper than a Freelancer, it could make it compelling. But I agree with your comments for the moment, the Freelancer is much more versatile

[@Leptospirosi]

This ship is just TERRIBLE DESIGN: as soon as the ship is not horizontal, you cannot roll without falling over on a side, because the upper manoeuvring thrust are not powerful enough to keep the ship flying when the lower thrusters are not pointed down. It behaves the same as an helicopter, except that, because the lifting force of the Helo is up and the centre of mass is lower, the configuration is inherently stable; this is not true for the Hull A, because the thrusters are BELOW the centre of mass, meaning the ship is inherently unstable. If you roll on a side and above 35-40°, you will simply drop like a brick instead of being able to hover. The problem is further aggravated by the ship being taller then it's width. This is particularly dangerous in windy condition near the ground, like on Microtch. I was landing when I got caught sideways by a strong wind near Necropolis: the ship rolled over and fell on a side (I was still flying). From there I was unable to bring it back on the landing gear and had to backspace. Other problems are the ladder, that tries to kill you most of the time (it is the only way in), and the Power to weight ratio and the manoeuvring thrusters distribution. It is the only ship with the "Startfarter" and the Reclaimer that cannot reach the SCM in atmosphere while climbing, but actually slows down and you need to level your trajectory, gain speed and raise the nose of the ship again. The long range will probably give the Hull A a niche in Pyro, but it won't earn you enough to make it worth your time, at least with the current commodity pices. Buy a Nomad, a Cutlass or a Freelancer instead: at least they will carry a vehicle and are all very capable combat ship if needed. Avoid it unless you plan to avoid planets completely and use it on calm weather moons.

[@hanswurst9866]

CIG also stated that it currently flies as if fully loaded at all times which doesn't help. Thankfully you can just leave atmosphere while flying at a 90° angle like a rocket (that doesn't want to enter orbit) would.

[@Farrister]

Wow, I haven't experienced that at all, but it doesn't surprise me!

[@fluffycuddles8008]

If you can shower on the toilet, won’t that get the toilet paper wet?

[@Farrister]

Waterproof paper... I don't even want to consider the impact of that

[@amoongsus9142]

First 😊

[@Farrister]

:)

[@CallMeRio_]

Potato ship

[@Farrister]

Delivers potato

[@Xedilian]

Hull A review | Scam Citizen 3.17 4K game play. There i fixed the title of your video for you.

[@Farrister]

Care to elaborate? All the footage you see is taken from me, personally, playing the game?

[@ProfessorBooty69]

1:30 If the airlock is supposed to work as a docking collar too how are you supposed to get around the unfolded ladders?

[@Farrister]

It's a good question, that I don't know the answer to lol

[@DanteHaroun]

do one for cutter do one for cutter do one for cutter do one for cutter

[@Farrister]

;)

[@b1narydrag0n]

The hull A has cookies, 10/10 ship

[@Farrister]

Haha, just another "cookie cutter" ship

[@CathrineMacNiel]

I loved my Hull-A for the time I had it, but I had cash over so I upgraded it to a Hull-B; won't go higher in the ladder though. The Cabin is just adorable, it has everyone a space trucker needs. And the Cockpit is gorgeous If you know how to fly the Hull-A its a joy to do so.

[@hanswurst9866]

Let's hope that CIG stars producing the Hull B in the next 5 years...

[@Farrister]

Really hope you enjoy the rest of the Hull series!

[@jamesthereaper6394]

@@hanswurst9866 concept is complete for it

[@hanswurst9866]

@@jamesthereaper6394 since 2015 which means that it has to be updated greatly

[@TswordZ]

Nice video! Good to see the Hull-A. It has a better interior than expected. The movement seemed really sluggish, but now I wonder if the ship was full of cargo there or not (would be bad if fully loaded the handling would be even worst).

[@Farrister]

I know what you mean - it would be nice if there was a big difference in feel from full cargo and extended, to no cargo and retracted

[@RetinaBurner]

Heya Farrister, hope you're doing well. Well done as always :) I think the Hull A is a nice little cargo ship, but she's definitely missing the ability to properly defend herself, and if the pilot is reliant on using her exclusively for in game income, they would be wise to seek out at least one escort to protect the ship and her cargo. But, that will cut into the profitability of the ship, so I wonder if, in the end, the Hull A isn't a great investment. Perhaps move up to a Freelancer ASAP, as it can defend itself pretty well, as can a Cutlass Black.

[@jono9721]

I think eventually this will be fixed when we have proper cargo contracts, pirates won't risk the crimestat/rep for a smaller cargo ship carrying essential goods. I can see boring contracts like trash/food/etc where the transport of the goods is more important than the cost of the goods themselves. Whereas well defended cargo ships will make money delivering higher risk goods (weapons/meds/etc). Maybe trading could be made less risky as well by being able to purchase cargo insurance or maybe rent an npc escort.

[@hanswurst9866]

@@jono9721 True, the only actual cargo mission is the nine tails blockade which happens every 3 months or so and then it's only occurring a few times on a special schedule and with a strict time limit. CIG really needs to punish griefers at all and put cargo hauling in as an actual gameplay loop.

[@Farrister]

Thank you :) and I agree, the Freelancer (especially MAX) is much more versatile, so I hope Hull A is priced accordingly, to give a reason to use it

[@jamesg.2838]

Makes a good companion to the prospector. Holds enough to run a couple prospector loads once refined and you wont want to run all of your refined ore in a single load with the new piracy potential.

[@Farrister]

I can totally see that!

[@Reginald-Erasmus]

Been playing SC since 2014 and even now trading is a massive waste of time. using the most valuable cargo and filling a C2 will take much longer and yield you less profit then just doing a simple mission, its really just not worth it in anyway. They need to get back in touch with their Freelancer roots, That was a real traders dream, buying cargo cheap and flying it to the other side of the universe through dozens of systems for massive profit, if you survived and of course im also refering to Discovery Freelancer which added the multiplayer and is still going today :). Thanks for the vid, very nice

[@Farrister]

Hopefully there are some buffs to trading soon, because 3.18 spells doom and destruction otherwise lol

[@snaggletoof1927]

I can imagine this being the perfect ship for the player that wants to start doing cargo runs. Personally I don't have the patience to haul cargo. I tend to throw in the towel and head for combat instead. But to each their own. Thanks for the review, Farrister!

[@Farrister]

Haha, fair enough, and thanks Snaggletoof!

[@garys7159]

In game the Freelancer Max would be my choice , worth saving the credits for and skip the Hull A entirely . The larger Hull series might be worth a look later . That's if CIG hasn't killed off cargo hauling altogether , the game is becoming more focused on combat , they're not gonna make any adjustments to profit margin right now for haulers despite increased risk's in 3.18 but they can damned sure shut down a cargo exploit real quick . Never understood dev's reasoning in any game I've ever played and this one is no exception to that .

[@CathrineMacNiel]

whats wrong with a margin of near 30%? Or when you move your refined ore near 90%?

[@hanswurst9866]

CIG even stated that they are not going to touch the profit margins even after cargo refactor has been implemented, loading will take up time and griefers even have an actual reason to be griefers. Cargo hauling will be even deader than it is right now and I also don't get why they even bother to design freighters.

[@hanswurst9866]

@@CathrineMacNiel Are you confusing mining with cargo hauling?

[@garys7159]

@@hanswurst9866 I thought I read that they were gonna re-evaluate later , but griefers are gonna be popping cargo ships just to watch the containers fall out when 3.18 hits . First coupla weeks is gonna be a mess IMO . I hope to god that they're not gonna make a statement that they didn't see that coming , I'll be laughing my ass off . Not gonna fly anything other than a fighter or a Corsair when the patch drops .

[@garys7159]

@@CathrineMacNiel The margin isn't 30% , full load of Laranite in a Hull A will cost you 167k with a 31k profit , 30% profit would be over 50k . You can lose that 167k due to bugs , griefers etc . Too little gain compared to bounty hunting with no risk involved .

[@hanswurst9866]

There really have to be very limited but high-margin goods in order to render any small cargo ship viable in this game. But CIG doesn't care and will deal with this in 10 years.

[@Farrister]

To some extent we see that, I do wonder if we'll see more in the future, as they'll want some sort of incentive to encourage traders next patch...

[@hanswurst9866]

@@Farrister fingers crossed!

[@darensworld2221]

I've been using the Hull A for transporting my mined commodities. I feel like this is the best use case for this ship.

[@Farrister]

Sadly the 48 SCU is kinda 1.5 runs of Prospector for me

[@darensworld2221]

64 SCU for the Hull A is 2 runs with the prospector with the standard bags attached. Which is still not great, but it is a step up from my previous method of renting the cutlass black to sell commodities. Plus, I am into risk assessment and do not like to put too much at risk into one single trip. But for others with more risk tolerance there is certainly better options.

[@Farrister]

@@darensworld2221 oh I thought the Hull A was only 48 - better stop doing this stuff from memory!

[@turok1998]

I love the Hull A, and love that it can be claimed at groundside pads, Sadly the 100 series is just way more useful in that regard.

[@Farrister]

I'm interested to see some of the bigger Hull series ships

[@infernalelysium7676]

can you do a review on a Drake Corsair?

[@Farrister]

I'll have to see if I can get my hands on one at some point! I tried it during the IAE, but didn't get to fly for long enough to do a review

[@BelowAverageRacing]

I know I'm a year late, but I would love to come back to SC just to space trucking, but I'm wondering that how long would it take to earn enough to rent the ship in-game? 😅

[@Farrister]

Probably depends on what ship you're starting out with!

[@johnboyd9713]

I think it is 1.1mil or so in game. Very competitive for its cargo capacity, especially if some day we get cargo missions, so blowing a mil doesn't mean that you can't actually use the ship cause you can't afford the cargo lol. Buying cargo ships in-game is always more delicate cause you have to have a mil or so at least as a buffer after the purchase.

[@Farrister]

Just shy of 1.4m aUEC from Lorville - not bad for an early game hauler

[@_R8ze_]

I know this is old video but i'd like to see update when they change cargo grids on Hull series to hold ships and components, some Furys on this could be very interesting...

[@Farrister]

I guess time will tell

[@VonKrieg]

Love your videos man but you sound like you could be narrating Peppa Pig. Maybe a new career for you.

[@Farrister]

hahaha I nearly spilled my coffee! You should hear me reading storytime books to my kid!

[@Roboticus_Prime_RC]

Can't wait for these features to make it to the Freelancers.

[@Farrister]

Would be cool!

[@56-ish]

You didn't even go into the cargo spindle and how the ship changes? I love your reviews, but I wish you had a section for "Ship Specific Features" where you just talk about things for that specific ship. Sometimes your review format seems a bit limiting. The 1 min "combat performance" section should have been able it's cargo capabilities, the cargo spindle, animations, what sort of money you could make etc

[@Farrister]

"The deployment mechanism of the spindle is cool, with the retracted position making the Hull A seem more aerodynamic, and a harder target to hit, but with the extended position increasing the cargo storage capacity without having to unduly increase the profile. But that also signals when the Hull A is laden with goods" - sorry, I thought I covered it!

[@56-ish]

@@Farrister Oops, must have missed that section?! My apologies!

[@pxkqd]

Probably the best layout of the game, given it's size.

[@Farrister]

Very practical too

[@fodder8062]

Liked the vid. I was always fascinated with the hull a because of it looks and different cargo storage method.

[@Farrister]

For sure

[@bolla999999999]

This was exactly why I got it but I was so plesantly suprised it has now become my daily driver for bunkers, caves, rescues and even the ocatonal low-mid difficulty bonty huntings.

[@MetalsirenIXI]

So not optimals for shipping but it does benefit me because A. I dont fly large ships well and B im okay with not min/maxing my income. Its a neat space truck