Humbled, The Road To PIC Episode 8

After completing her solo, it's time to get back to training. The highs of solo quickly fade as training moves to Short Field takeoff's and landings.
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[@haywardsteve]

about time this was posted its been several months since we saw Kim in the left seat

[@BaronPilot]

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[@clarencewiles963]

@@BaronPilot do it the old way. Film it and show. As is. Just saying you have much newer equipment. It just a live shot but you can look it over before sending it out. Make it simple.

[@robertschneider2189]

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[@BaronPilot]

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[@robertschneider2189]

@@BaronPilot please get past that. You put out a quality product and that has costs that need to be covered. It is not a money grab, it is supporting your business that has a great product. If you produced garbage, then that is another matter, but you don't. Yours is professional, and it shows

[@flyingsic]

I’m SO excited for this series to start up again! Comment about how this series has helped you!❤

[@MrKevburg]

Looks like fun!!!

[@tomfuller7401]

Kim, Your doing fine, just have lots of patience, and practice, practice. and it will all fall in place in the end. This is true with anything your trying to accomplish. Good to see some more of your video's again.

[@jrobrien001]

Inspired me to get my commercial rating! Keep up the great work on the channel, pursuing private, and congratulations to you and Baron Pilot.

[@jacobjohnson7018]

You're showing a lot of bravery committing to this, as well as posting it online for the world to see. That's very inspiring, I wish I was that brave! Also, I am new to this aviation stuff. I've enjoyed watching and listening to the videos of you guys in 75Whiskey, but these videos have been great for somebody who has no idea what any of this entails. Thanks for sharing your journey and the determination it takes to become a pilot. Was so happy to see a post today, glad you're still going strong :)

[@trekfan702]

This series inspires me in my flight training. It’s about being human. It’s ok to not get it right the first time. That’s why you practice. Chair fly, in the car, in the sim. Repetition builds muscle memory. Go get em! You got this! you’ve got a support group and cheering section!

[@DanRibar]

Thanks for this video. I've tried to explain the feeling of being overwhelmed on the way to PIC. This video helped me explain it to my wife. Great job.

[@BaronPilot]

Glad it was helpful! Most people don’t know and many have forgotten what the struggles were like. Thanks for watching.

[@charlesabdouch3052]

This is a Great Series. One thing I mentioned from the last video was getting out of Put-In-Bay. My wife asked if we could just pull into the grass and have every single inch of runway available, so that's what I did, pulled off in the grass, turned onto the center line with straight nose wheel, and as soon as the mains were on the runway, I stopped. You have to inspect the drop but almost all runways have a smooth transition from the grass to the runway so get that last inch.

[@midlifeflyer]

I think you did just fine for a first short field lesson, Kim. "Damn, that was good!" was my reaction. There is a lot more going on with short field landings than many realize.

[@1dullgeek]

This is a very different technique for short field than I was taught and use. I'm looking forward to trying this technique.

[@davejt1967]

Very good to see this series back again. Phew that was a busy lesson! Good to see Matt learning as well as you. He realised he was trying to do too much in one go and called time before it all got too overwhelming. You will have set backs, and you'll have to take a step back and then go forward again.

[@andrewbainton4139]

Hey SIC... soon to be PIC, if not already PIC...I thought you did a very good job, especially since you didn't know what to expect really. It's a very long time since I learned how to perform those landings, but I do recall feeling the same frustration. It does all come together. My guess is that you will probably get it together much quicker than a lot of other students. Keep the faith! As always thanks for sharing the video, we've been waiting in anticipation for it to come out. I enjoyed it very much. thanks again.

[@flyingsic]

It’s so funny how much I haven’t learned because Kristoffer doesn’t need to do it in the Baron. He tends to avoid requiring to do short and softs because there are so many other airport options. But it’s always good to learn, practice, and be proficient in!

[@philsparks4125]

I truly enjoyed watching you this time. You did well considering what all you were given.

[@flyingsic]

Thank you, hope the other times were enjoyable also😂

[@Rufus6540]

Not a pilot, but pitching down and pulling up only once ground effect kicked in would freak me the heck out so well done you!

[@chriholt]

I've been looking forward to a new episode in Kim's training - big thanks!

[@NAV-tv7xf]

Awesome.

[@davidpoll220]

I remember my instructor teaching me angle of attack and rate of descent for short field landings as well as the flare It was definitely easy to get frustrated and want to give up I think you are doing great. More stick time will help

[@bobdiederich7087]

Be patient, your doing great and never compare yourself to others, comparison is the thief of joy.

[@flyingsic]

I like this, thank you. I will have to remind myself of this❤

[@CodeFreak1981]

Glad to see the videos back. Keep your head up @Flying SIC, you are doing great. The video series has really put into light what really goes on during flight training. Thank you for the great videos to you both!

[@DeereGuy211]

Kim you're doing a great job. Keep the confidence up!!! You got this!!💯

[@mark6121]

Glad to see you continue the series. Looking forward to seeing the end result!

[@thomasjake3920]

Kim, your comms proficiency is on par with many high-hour professional pilots! I'm a bit jealous that you've had time in the right seat flying in the system. Good on Khris.

[@flyingsic]

Thank you! I still get nervous but I love being on comms now🎉

[@thomasjake3920]

@@flyingsic Comms stand out to me because my training (early 80's) began in a float plane with no electrical system, thus no radio or transponder. I soloed on floats at Lk Union in Seattle without ever using a radio. My instructor and another student had an incident with floating debris that led to me finishing my PPL at Boeing, BFI on wheels... Comms at BFI felt like drinking from a fire hose at first. Thanks to both you and Kris for being this open and real... You've got this.

[@flyingsic]

@@thomasjake3920 oh man that’s crazy!

[@mikeprytherch8875]

Brilliant been waiting for the next instalment 😀

[@bonnobloksma114]

This short field landing with either nose up or nose down also demonstrates something else that people need to know … fighting instinct, when you are low power and approaching an obstacle you cannot avoid and need to get over, do NOT pull the nose up trying to get over it, you need to use optimal glide and … worst case, dive before it, use max ground effect and pull up and over it before landing.

[@cessna177flyer3]

Matt, I’m glad you realized the briefing was inadequate. The cockpit is a terrible place to learn new concepts (especially when the student is manipulating the controls). The cockpit is loud, hot, bumpy, and full of distractions. Have the student study the night before, then brief before the flight, answer any questions, then go PRACTICE in the airplane.

[@johnpooky84]

Excellent advice, ESPECIALLY post-TNFlyGirl.

[@1shARyn3]

???? Timstamp 14:00(ish) --- so what was wrong with her landing. I think she did fine. No apology needed or justified

[@v1rotait23]

Hi Kim! Well done, keep doing what you're doing!! Those landings were fine. - The plane was reusable! Down here in NZL, we always first do a ground lesson/briefing in the classroom with a whiteboard, any model airplane aids/props and a beverage(!) if need be, to know what the lesson is about and why, and time to think on it a bit before strapping in. You're doing very well. I noticing your actions are becoming more automatic for you now without realising it! :) :)

[@eddiec1961]

It's good to see another video it's been so long since the last one, you did an ok job I think your instructor let you down he should have done the ground school first and then did the demo then let you do the practice.

[@bradolsen8629]

Sweetheart, you are doing just fine. I’ve watched you long enough to know that you’re not a quitter. I wish I was there to give you a hug and say congratulations but I will tell you that I am proud of you. I have three daughters they would love you instantly.

[@robertpowell2746]

Kim hang in there girl you're gonna get this, I know it you have the desire!

[@nocotton]

Shoulder harnesses are an important safety feature>

[@nathanwildthorn6919]

Yaaaaaayyyy!!! 😭 😊

[@thomas5649]

Relax. Breathe. Trust your abilities. Then just do it. As a cropduster I'm always in a steep dive and quick pull ups. You will overcome the awkward feeling of pitching down.

[@markdibben7890]

Yes Matt's right, he owns this one totally. First though it's great to see you flying Kim. The first steps to getting your four rings (why not?) are the most important! But if it were me I would be wanting a pre-flight briefing over coffee to conceptually get it first then maybe watch one happen from the ground, then experience one in the aircraft. Then try it. Which means, using academic speak, I'm being exposed to the learning material three different, separate ways, before trying it. This gives time for learning to happen without time pressure or distractions pressure of being in the aeroplane. Ha - and you know I'm British because I speak of aircraft as a description of the mode of transport and also aeroplane as description of its physics!!

[@ronnydowdy7432]

Love the series. Love watching Kim she's easy on the eyes for sure. I would like to see her with stronger arms. I think that would help her. When she gets her comfortable zone look out she'll be a great pilot.

[@flyingsic]

I can still struggle with strength in my left wrist since I broke it but it’s getting better! Thanks for watching glad you enjoy the series

[@thesearcherman6652]

I think you did great for where you are training wise. I do not remember going straight into soft field/short field landings right after solo. I remember practice area check out and move to cross country training 50 years ago. How many more hours does your instructor need to get a commuter airline job? Best Wishes!

[@matthewseneker1383]

We appreciate the encouragement! Cross country is coming soon! I currently have about 850 hours and need 1,250 for airline jobs.

[@thesearcherman6652]

@@matthewseneker1383-Thanks for the reply. Not telling her what to do, but, if I was her I would try to finish my PPL with you. Thanks again!

[@k5sss]

@@matthewseneker1383 My school did XC next, and short/soft were close to the end, so just wondering why you do it in a different order?

[@matthewseneker1383]

@@k5sss We introduce shorts and softs now because then during all your cross country training and any flight from now until the checkride, all takeoffs and landings can be done as a short or soft and it gives you more attempts to master them. Thanks for asking!

[@drakegod84]

This guy looks just like me when I was a kid. I actually use to fly too. lol

[@stevendouglas8144]

I have been wondering what happened to this series!

[@andreawetter]

Very interesting to see the training. It is still a bit of an omission to show as you do. Brave and interesting, hope it goes great in the future.

[@ahedin]

Anxiety makes you react and is hard to overcome. Diving towards the grass short of the runway doesn't look right at all.

[@ackack612]

...she's not going to start crying again, is she...?

[@juanignacioelias6499]

Good to see you back! You did great. Now, this is a strange technique for short field landings (at least very different from how I was taught them}. Why disrupt a stable approach cutting the power instead of managing pitch and power to get to the aiming point and flare to touch down on target?

[@bradolsen8629]

She is the cutest little thing with that ponytail. Oh, I love that.

[@richardmerrill4036]

Where you been?

[@gregnettles3677]

Way to much emotions geez

[@Towert7]

No offense to the CFI, but this perfectly shows that not every CFI is the right CFI. I feel so bad for students who get 'assigned' a CFI and they get unlucky. I've seen my share of CFI's that were not top quality. As a fellow CFI, I would NEVER 'teach' something in the airplane. Almost every CFI knows the airplane is the worst classroom. So sorry to hear this guy didn't know that ahead of time. It's sad when the CFI prioritizes getting 'their' time instead of prioritizing helping the student learn to fly, even on a subconscious level. You ALWAYS start with ground on the theory, talk it through, talk about airspeeds, discuss what is going on, etc. Don't walk out to the airplane until the students has a general idea of what's going on. Then you go to the airplane and *show* them what you were talking about. Demo it, talk through it while you are doing it. Then put the plane back on the ground and have the student attempt it just like you did. Start with the short takeoff. After some practice and giving suggestions in the airplane, go back on the ground and debrief. Don't just log the flight, debrief the flight while it's fresh in their heads and talk about ways to improve. Not every student catches on as quickly as others, but as a CFI, we owe it to them to provide them with the best quality instruction possible to give them the best chance of learning the material. I almost hope the next video features another instructor. Sorry guy. I think the only way this could have been worse in terms of teaching pedagogy is if he had also tried to add in soft TO/LDGs.

[@backswing7221]

Just because controllers seem to speak at a million miles an hour Kim does not have to try to copy them, to the extent that she speaks so quickly it would be easy to to make herself misunderstood.

[@oneninerniner3427]

I got to agree and it's not a cut down, just a critique ok. I think on a lot of two way radio communications some folks speak too fast. I work for a farmer in the fall for sugar beet harvest and we have business band two way radios in all the equipment & trucks to coordinate the loading of trucks and stuff. I, being an old fart with not so great hearing anymore have a hard time understanding some folks on the radios. You need to speak clearly/annunciate, don't talk softly, because we are in a noisy environment, but you obviously don't need to shout & slow enough to be understood. Which gives me an idea! A lot of truckers and we do too, use Bluetooth headsets on one ear because that's what the law allows for cell phone communications while driving on public roads. Now if we could get Bluetooth capability for those business band two way radios to our headsets too, that would be sweet!

[@prussiaaero1802]

Matt knows your limits. Not your limitations. Very different things. A limit is “you know what, that’s enough for us today.”

[@TheMyrakkel]

I think the vast majority of students struggle with short field, no matter how it is taught. I know those were the hardest for me to grasp, come check ride I just picked a spot floated in and slammed it down.

[@observer1242]

Yeah. Me too. I carried a little power, full flaps, 60 knots over the fence and slammed on the brakes once I hit.

[@stephenreese5921]

I learned soft field and short field landings from a Vietnam veteran pilot who had just come back from the war. He drilled me over and over by placing my mind over jungles and trees filled with Vietcong before landing the plane on the runway in order to limit my exposure time to enemy fire. It worked! I had a few tree leaves and bush branches in my tail wheel but it worked! By the time we finished, I could land that Cessna-152 in my back yard (50-75 feet at most). It is a great feeling to know, Kim, that needing to land in those kind of scenarios can save your life and those of your passengers. I can land a plane, almost anywhere! [a great mindset to have]!

[@RobertM125]

Great to see more of Kim flying. Thank you both for all the work you do putting this videos out for us all to enjoy!

[@jackrolfson312]

It's nice to see you back flying again I was waiting impatiently for that to happen! You're a lot like me in the fact that if I'm learning something new I want to get proficient at it before I go on to something else. Everybody's different you'll get the hang of it. I like to have things explained to me, and why we are doing it, and then it all makes sense. Kim you've got this keep going can't wait to see the next video.

[@BigglesAviator]

Great to see Kim back in the saddle again. Enjoying watching the lessons and development. As an instructor I always suggest to students that the cockpit is by far the worst place to train. The more we can do in the ground school the better. So much going on and the instructor needing to talk and explain at the same time. But good news ...its coming together

[@trbeme1346]

This just came up and I immediately clicked on it to watch it. While I have my PPL, I like watching the instructing going on as it provides me another way to look at what my CFI has taught me. Your CFI did great in calling it a day as you became a bit flustered. I've been there done that many of times and the best thing to do is stop and regroup. Always going to be another day that you can give it a go. Great video.

[@HeeHawHighlander]

Seems like a 20 minute classroom discussion before the flight could have saved a lot of confusion

[@thefamilythatfliestogether]

This is an interesting way of teaching the short field landing. It is actually not too bad and would certainly get the student prepared for a power off 180 for their commercial rating. The way I learned to do a short field landing was to use the principle of "power for altitude and pitch for airspeed." In a sense, it makes the plane respond more like a helicopter as when you apply power it goes up (like the collective) and you use pitch forward to increase forward speed (like the cyclic). What is nice about this method is it allows for you to call your landing spot pretty easy because as soon as you kill the power you sink and plop right on the runway. Either way, glad to see Kim back at the controls making progress on her PPL. Thanks for sharing.

[@Kjp-hf7hp]

Another Video! Fantastic video as always. It's so fun to watch these videos of new pilots learning. Reminds me of my time getting that ticket to learn.

[@BaronPilot]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@FBCStuttgart]

Great job. I like the way he explained everything. One thing I do with students is start working on landing on a picked out point from day one. Most students can’t get very close on purpose but it gets them thinking about it for when we start working on short field and soft field. I do emphasize not forcing the plane on to that spot but instead, plan for it. It helps some as students advance but great job! I’m glad she’s still pursuing this!

[@AeroworksProductions]

Trim trim trim.

[@DanielCValot]

Watching her become a pilot is a great journey, I am so happy for her! Happy flying!

[@BaronPilot]

Me too! Thanks for watching.

[@pslny]

So I’m a month late here, but I think she did awesome and Matt crushed her. It’s not going to be perfect, but that was pretty good. Kim needs to speak up a little more, the talk could have been done in the air on a short stint away from the pattern. Then back at it for a few more tries. Matt’s a good instructor, but I think he should have given her a little reprieve flying away from the pattern for a few minutes rather than stopping there.

[@peterwaugh9416]

Sitting here at home, watching it on youtube, flying looks so easy. The reality must be so different, up there actually flying & knowing the consequences if you get it seriously wrong. I absolutely admire Kim's determination & attitude. Plus the courage to put it all online. The hardest part must be not having time to eat while when your the PIC

[@v1rotait23]

Mmmm! - "Baron bacon snacks".... :)

[@k5sss]

I found everything but landings to be nearly as easy in the plane as it looks on video. Landings are the hardest and most dangerous part of flight training, and no amount of explanation on the ground (or video) helped me. That’s why we spend endless hours doing pattern work. And then once regular landings finally click, you have to learn new techniques for short and soft fields, which means even more pattern work.

[@jimmydulin928]

You figured it out Matt. You should have demonstrated the pitch up deceleration method and then let her do that and then the other. And let her fly the pattern. Keep demonstration to only what she has not seen and then all talk while she flys. Come by Aurora, Missouri 2H2, and fly with me on my dime to get some stick time. The low ground effect is a much more efficient short field method, but not ACS. ACS now allows acceleration in ground effect to Vx or Vy as appropriate. On long runways and in the Baron, Vx or Vy is never appropriate. Complex guys don't like low ground effect, but even with gear down acceleration is quicker than at higher pitch attitude. A trick with short field is apparent rate of closure. We experience it in auto and airplane. Far away, objects appear to close with us at a brisk walk regardless of our speed. As we close, the rate of closure with those objects (say stop sign) appears to speed up. Like your first landing, we can use the apparent rate of closure with the numbers for deceleration in ground effect. We will touch down well below Vso (full stall attitude) in low ground effect.

[@camo6344]

Don’t panic you are doing very well I’m leaning from you leaning

[@mshafer2006]

I’m so happy this series has started again. I wish I could be doing what Kim is doing.

[@bobwright7447]

I’ve always found coming in high and steep at target speed in POH and aiming 200’ short of touchdown point using pitch for speed and power for rate gets me right on touchdown point.

[@irishcurse65]

Once I started doing short fields my landings became significantly better and consistent. Regular landings you are flying the plane until it doesn't want to fly. Short fields you are flying the plane to a specific spot so you have to manage speed and energy much more precisely.

[@Cazador60140]

The Skyhawk Vessna 172 id a very stable and so easy to fly craft ideal high wing . Although showing the right attitude and desire to learn he student looks nervous and tense, I can feel it from my keyboard. , the best is yet to come

[@ENergyJimP]

I am thankful that you make and release good aviation videos. Do it at your pace.

[@stevecastro22]

I believe that you are both learning at this point. Kim, as a student and instructor as teacher. I'm sure that you will both improve on your skill set.

[@f.n.schlub2269]

This is precisely why glider training is so valuable. Chris, you ever pilot the "slam dunk" at KSFO ?

[@rickunruh8132]

Instructor needs to do way more preflight briefing and less talking in the air. Stop throwing in details on short final ie braking.

[@federicomaisch8019]

Practice makes perfect! Great job!

[@idlewise]

I was taught that when you set full power at the end of the runway you also adjust mixture to get maximum EGT, and then roll.

[@goldierides9481]

Good job. I'm struggling with this phase of training right now.

[@flyingsic]

I feel for you! It took me quite a while to really get it, I could do it ok-ish but not consistently until I just figured out the best way for me AND the plane. Keep at it, let me know how you’re progressing and good luck!❤ Also- sometimes going up with another CFI to get another perspective can help. Have them first just sit and watch what you’re doing and not actually instruct you so they can see before trying to give their input and possibly confusing you more.

[@shreddder999]

16:47 She set a speed record on that call! 21:57 Don't take it. Let her fly it.

[@parker73711]

hand in there i think you're doing a fine job, and your instructor is good too ..111

[@wfail8656]

That’s awesome!! Just wish I was there acting as the seatbelt. 😂

[@t67m]

Great to see you back up in the air - hope you're still enjoying it. I was slightly surprised to see so much apparent first-time explanation in the cockpit - rather than learning in the air, it is nearly always better to learn on the ground in the classroom before the flight and use the flight time to practice.

[@flyingsic]

I agree but I am much more of a visual /doer learner so sometimes somebody can explain something until their blue in the face and I still won’t get it😂 thanks for watching and your input!

[@Klaatu-ij9uz]

GREAT tutorial. 🛩

[@camo6344]

Unreal leaning a lot

[@midwestpilot]

Not a HUGE deal but I think on the instructor’s first short-field the mixture was still ground leaned. Otherwise, great flight! Great instruction! Awesome student!

[@BaronPilot]

Great attention to details. However its actually leaned for takeoff.

[@ryanawilson8549]

👏👏👏

[@FreedomfixerFlying]

Don't beat yourself up Kim. You are so early in your training and it just comes with time. The best advise I ever got about flying was "lock in the sight picture" My DPE knew I wanted to get my tailwheel endorsement. And if you know anything about tailwheel sight picture is it. If you struggle with hight above the runway. Have your instructor get rolling down the runway just before rotation speed, pull the power to "set the landing attitude" and hold. This will allow time for you to "lock in" how it looks as you are on the runway. This one skill has helped me so much, when flying new airplanes. Especially in tailwheel. I lock in that sight picture while taxiing which is the landing attitude for a three pointer. Keep going, you got this!

[@chrisaerts6489]

Does this mean Kim is flying to OSH this year???? Way to go Kim!!!

[@flyingsic]

Anybody have a plane I can borrow?🤩😎

[@chrisaerts6489]

@@flyingsic I was hoping to start building a Zenith 750 or Rans 21this year. The stock market drops hit us way to hard. So like normal life gets in the way.

[@nickwilson9210]

Great video but I think it would be more professional of it all was shoot at 24fps or 23.98

[@BaronPilot]

It would be more professional if I shot it on a RED 🎥. 😂 Thanks for watching.

[@thunderbolt513]

Well well well Mr. B.P. At last one (1st. of the year)😁 miss Kim video. Meaning only Kim (& her CFI). Nice to see her again on the "Capt." seat. Way to go girl. Very happy new year to all of you ( including Mr. CFI) from Portugal.

[@Daveinbangormaine]

Great job Kim. You are an inspiration to many.

[@robertschneider2189]

Excellent video. It takes me back to when I learned to fly 59 years ago. You will make a great pilot, Kim. I know you get impatient at times, but relax, and keep practicing and learning. You are doing great, and I really like your flight instructor. Having a flight instructor is important throughout your flying career. He or she is like the primary care physician. You visit with them a couple of times a year, and they catch problems before they kill or injure you. When you get your license, I'll send along a bottle of champagne.

[@andybainton8124]

Even though your pattern work was not what you wanted it to be, you had a lot of info to digest without knowing that it was coming, and you still did a terrific job! As so many have commented...it really does come together, and I liked your own critique so I it seems to me you are putting it all together in your head correctly...you'll be fine! thanks for sharing as always!

[@johnvanduren4806]

The right call was made, go and debrief, discuss what happened. Kim give yourself time to review what happened and fly the lesson in your mind and the results will surprise you. You will get your PPL>

[@user-jb7vr2uj4n]

Kim I'm so proud of you!!! Keep going you are doing great and I so looking forward to your cross country. Keep up the good work!!!

[@Captpicky]

Everyone learns in a different way, it's not the student's fault, an instructor has to tailor his instruction technique to the student, and I think at the end he realized that he needs to explain things on the ground before getting into the plane. I think the use of a model plane would be beneficial. Keep up the good work

[@rockeyroy1]

You did great don't over think it! the plane knows how to fly You'll be great it comes fast when you get it!

[@donrotenberry6571]

Great Video Kim. I'm no pilot but I enjoy your videos. Can' wait to see you take over The Baron in the left seat.

[@Drewairplane]

Seems like she has more than enough skill to do the short fields it will just take some time to click in her brain. Once it clicks i think she will pick it up rather quickly.

[@thomashammett6851]

Kim do good. Great radio calling! Keep it up until you are excellent and consistent.

[@abacojack13]

about time. keep them coming

[@joenicoud5967]

Matt is terrific

[@cobyabbygayle]

Nice job Kim

[@adamthomas7514]

Short field takeoff: You want to use minimum runway (As little runway as possible.) Maximum runway would be using the whole runway length.

[@007Mugs]

ACS standard for Short Field Takeoff: Utilize maximum available takeoff area

[@jan3195]

Sounded funny to me initially also. But my take is that the runway is short so you want to align yourself to have as much usable runway as possible - hence, maximum runway.

[@realulli]

How about before every lesson, you sit together and brief what you're planning to do. At that point, Kim is not distracted by flying the airplane, you can use a whiteboard etc. to better show what is going to be going on. After the briefing, you can get in the plane and put into practice what you've been talking about. A plane with the engine running is a very expensive classroom... ;-)

[@rickkennerly2379]

She, she, she. Guess she doesn’t have a name.

[@dougvinduska9593]

Alright alpha Velveeta Knuckle Underwear your cleared to takeoff tower Jim' Washout Out' Pfaffenbach turn on your marks.