Hunt: Showdown Mythbusters - Cornf Edition: Episode 1

[@Cornf]

Hey! I just got done with the livestream I mentioned in the video. It went for over 12 hours (oops!) Tomorrow I'm going to read all of your comments though don't worry. Thanks for all of the support on the video while I was in a hunt showdown coma.

[@blakegreen82]

Did you get a kill with every weapon?

[@Cornf]

@@blakegreen82 Yes!

[@bshell1731]

Was there, can confirm. Was glorious.

[@heibk-2019]

Been doing the froghop for ages, it definitely makes a big difference

[@artemperesada3454]

Ain't nothing like jumping through a river with 5 water devils and coming out unscathed 😁

[@gaevlos1281]

Always frog hop, everywhere.

[@marlokwar_3032]

Same

[@marlokwar_3032]

Didnt cnow its called like that

[@Zuignap]

Thought almost everyone who knew jumping was faster did a double jump

[@Sadeyr]

Even if it’s not full holster and draw times, I’d love a video on guns it’s worth doing animation cancels for. Some guns fire faster if you tap Q twice quickly, or like with two uppercuts, fire faster if you swap between two, I’m curious how many guns benefit from animation cancels and swapping.

[@Cornf]

Good suggestion!

[@DanteTrickster]

That was fixed ages ago

[@Sadeyr]

@@DanteTrickster It still works to this day, the original 'quick swap' was changed years ago, but there are still some guns that are simply faster to swap than they are to reload, with uppercut being the most popular of those. Uppercut also shoots faster if you tap q rapidly.

[@youreprettygood1414]

I loved 4FS as well, and I can confidently say that if anyone is to take up the mantle of resident Hunt Mythbuster, it's you lad.

[@jackarybones965]

I dont play hunt often but have always used the "frog hop" method when crossing water and I never knew there was a question to if it actually worked or not. Great to know it actually does!

[@luminalaztec919]

The biggest difference with frog hopping is not triggering water devils. They move so fast that the little bit of extra time is literally a life saver.

[@Cornf]

Yes, frog hop will get you around water devils in small rivers no problem

[@Moewenfels]

9:30 omg that keyboard bashing in an intense Hunt moment is SO RAW :D

[@JeffStylez69]

I do want to confirm as a "frog hop" enthusiast that has been using it for around a year, that whilst gator legs can be outshined by frog hop in small creeks or deep puddles in the way of a rotation, it most certaintly is absolutely necessary if you for some reason "need/want" to cross long stretches of water or just fighting in water in general.

[@PenitusVox]

I've definitely been killed by explosives through walls and been tagged by frags causing bleed. In a lot of cases, I think there was some sort of gap in the wall that sort of let the radius of the explosion "leak" out. Like, in the Fort Bolden boss lair. I was upstairs near the window that faces out toward the toilet entrance. Someone threw a small dynamite bundle from the wall onto the dirt in front of the wooden door and that killed me. I'm guessing the explosion found its way through the window.

[@jdrdoom3705]

If its stick bombs, they dmg through walls. And windows are destructable so explosions ignore them typicly

[@marlokwar_3032]

Frags are ment to do bleeding thru walls but they sometimes do damage that's wrong in my opinion

[@marlokwar_3032]

I was killer thru floor of main building in seven sisters by frags 3 times

[@Zuignap]

I've been killed by dynamite through (wood) walls. I always quit after those games

[@zero.zero.one.001]

Yes, that is my thought as well. But I also have been killed by a frag bomb through a solid brick wall. Maybe this wall was stacked when build and there is a invisible gap?

[@Pablo-V]

TIL I've been froghopping for a long time without even knowing what it was called or if it was a thing lmaooo

[@fwooshmcgibbens3282]

I loved watching 4fs, thank you for picking up the mantle Cornf🙏

[@Totallyking]

I loved 4FS. Glad you are taking up the mantle. Great video.

[@Hanfgurkenhasser]

4FSGaming, man I miss him. Really enjoyed his videos and then he just stop uploading. Never found out why. All the happier to see someone else pick up the torch and carry it high!

[@benjitheengi4447]

I love me that "Cornf!" Intro

[@tommytwosocks8419]

Awesome video as usual Cornf and great shoutout to 4FS for his pioneering, loved his vids when I was learning to get better at Hunt and extremely happy his torch hasn't been dropped in the community. I need that weapon swap time video so bad I probably can't restrain myself from testing it ahead of time XD

[@mochiboot6502]

The Hunt scientist strikes again! Love your channel bro

[@Cornf]

Thanks bro 🤝 glad I can make stuff you enjoy

[@Ajattaro]

Thanksnfor this video! You're getting really good stuff out. And respect the 4FS mention!!

[@briandavidhuntoon689]

Absolutely love these videos! Hunt has been my main game for quite awhile now, and at around 800hrs I'm still learning new things all the time! Videos like this are incredibly helpful. Keep up the good work!

[@Cornf]

Glad you found it useful!

[@Man_Toast]

I'd love a video on holster + draw times. I knew there was an advantage to the conversion over pax somewhere... Never even considered this with hunt, as well as a few other things you have researched and covered here. Awesome stuff!

[@dabay55]

I think a deeper dive into the ROF increase of fanning would be interesting. Currently, fanning will increase your fire rate if you return to hipfire after each ADS'ed shot, then ads once the hipfire fanning animation is complete. Would be curious if the rof increase is comparable perks like iron sharpshooter, but just for revolvers.

[@Moewenfels]

Holster times is a little TOO much "expert 0,01% content" but I'd be interested in seeing it either way :)

[@DaussPlays]

It's interesting with your findings on explosives. I typically feel safer hiding behind wood if I know it's a frag, because I find them a lot less likely to hit me through it. On the flipside, dynamite, and particularly the BDB, seems to blast people through walls a lot more often. I thought it was an intended feature, to have the BDB with it's smaller effect radius to the frag, but give it through-wall blasting power to compensate. If I find any interesting examples of that effect in my clips, I'll pass them your way.

[@Wintercat1]

This is wild to me. I have hundreds of hours and have had the opposite assumption (and behavior) the entire time.

[@int3r4ct]

I have definitely been killed by frags and dynamites through walls before, but it seems insanely inconsistent. It’s also hard to tell how much of it is desync from me being around a corner on my screen, and the server not registering me as actually around the corner yet.

[@_Echelon]

I really love the editing and pacing of your videos! this is exactly the kind of hunt content we have been missing! keep it uip man been subbed since the first vid i saw !

[@Cornf]

Thanks bro, your comment means a lot to me

[@spessman9070]

The dualie double shot is ridiculously strong, practice it as much as possible because they outperform 2 slot shotguns in most situations

[@spessman9070]

I abused the crap out of it before the update that reduced ammo. Less ammo makes it a bit of a drag now but it's not that bad@@IWantThatKey

[@misterio3678]

I tried it in the shooting range and is SO easy to achieve in gunslinger mode. Videos incoming soon: GUNSLINGER SECRETLY META/OP? :O

[@misterio3678]

@@IWantThatKey I got used to hunter mode really. No other reason.

[@MoldyChapstick]

​@@IWantThatKeybc hunter mode is what the game was designed for. They introduced gunslinger for the console port. Most beta players still play hunter

[@Demoerda]

I'm a simple man: I see the pixelated brown cat, I click! Seriously, your content is fantastic :D

[@Cornf]

Glad you like it!

[@bunz_d]

Great video! Idk why but I loved the animation of the dog stamping, doing an about face and then leaving lol

[@gabrielgobbocunha2436]

Hey Cornf, thanks for the video. Very very helpful hints. Just wanted to point something out in a friendly way. When you say the Nagant "Officer versus the Nagant Officer Carbine @ 4:45" while comparing the swap speed , you're actually not using the Officer pistol but instead a silenced nagant m1895 which is a different variant and weapon (nagant is a single action revolver, which works with Fanning, and officer is a double action revolver, which does not work with fanning for that reason). However I get what you meant, thanks!

[@Cornf]

Yep, slight mistake in my script, but it also goes to show that even though the nagant officer and the nagant pistol are different variants, they still behave very similarly. Good catch!

[@NicolasSchaII]

Finally someone with a good video about this so we don't have to rely on psychoghost anymore..

[@BalgaBear]

So often for games, they get a content boost, and then the game still gets more updates, and the guides don't, so thank you!

[@Cornf]

No problem! Glad you liked it

[@jackburton4484]

4fs gaming was my first hunt KZbinr Learn a lot trough that channel! Now it’s you and homereel! Keep up the good work !

[@Moewenfels]

I'd LOVE to see you take on that mantle and SHOW US THE TRUUUUUUTH!

[@DrDeadWeight]

In all my time i didn't know I could bounce a nade off a wall and it would work in water. This is the first video I've seen from you but I'm super excited too see more!

[@techno_tuna]

As someone whos been playing this game since the beginning, it blew my mind to see the 4FS clip saying there's no jump benefit. B-hopping use to be crazy busted. EDIT: also, thank you for being willing to disclose things to the newlings like how to doubletap dual pistols and single tap the avto. You just earned another sub.

[@Cornf]

I don't think 4FS was wrong, I'm sure his testing methods were thorough, it was a different game state when he released the video. Thanks for the sub!

[@elpresidente3524]

Another good thing about jumping before entering a body of water is that water devils are triggered later, meaning a reduced risk of them biting you

[@seang8702]

Enjoy your content keep up the good work! 4fs was also wanna my faves when I started.

[@odding3472]

As always, amazing video Cornf! Super happy someone has the knowledge and dedication to research and inform players of all kinds of things, from mythbusting to proper guides and analysis.

[@RedStaryPuu]

that dual pistol trick explains so many of my deaths

[@HuntShowdownLab]

Good video, love the micro topic format.

[@Cornf]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@cameron5693]

I knew it!!! I’ve been doing that second jump ever since they nerved jumping in water and friends thought i was crazy

[@complexwalrus2192]

2:45 If you are confused as I was as to why you couldn't recreate this; it's because it's only possible to do this using the Gunslinger control scheme.

[@Of_Neptune]

Thank you for your videos. Strangely enough, you’ve done a lot to encourage me not to give up on this game. Thank you for all your work, and great video as always.

[@Cornf]

It's a frustrating game, but it's the most satisfying game to learn. Stick with it!

[@takubear88]

Ahh that last one reminds me of release DeSalle. Not a single wall (and especially ceilings) had any kind of properties attached to it that would stop ANY explosion from going through it. They have to manually apply this effect it seems and in some spaces, like that underground barrel dealing damage, it probably is so obscure that they never even thought of it.

[@h4py741]

Love you Cornf, thanks for picking up this great series, cant wait for your next video!

[@flauntingfloof]

I actually learned the froghop when playing with friends myself! Pretty useful trick when making it across the smaller rivers in the game (like the edge of the map near ironworks when the extract is in a boat by the lighthouse)

[@Derpmind]

Your editing is reaoly entertaining. Especially the socks!

[@Cornf]

Glad you liked the socks lol, thanks!

[@CryoHyena]

I was doing that frog hop jump since i started playing a year ago, surprised to see it makes such a big difference!

[@maymayman0]

Thank you for taking on the mythbusters mantle and I miss 4FS

[@Tenmo8life]

Finally, ive been waiting for this episode for 15years

[@TheHumanHighlighter]

Kept telling my friends to froghop, I guess the reason some didn't believe me is because the hop in the water can fail often, and can also be impossible depending on the depth of the water. Thanks for confirming! Also, explosives feel really inconsistent. I swear that I've been killed through floors and even brick walls by frags and larger dynamite.

[@ProgressiveRock1970s]

Great video! These resources are really helpful

[@hiramob]

I swear to god ive been doing the hop frog thing for like a year. I told my friends about it and noone belived me... Im happy to see someone finally debunking this one!

[@mrhat1073]

for the explosives going through walls, there's an excellent example in HomeReel's video about being in a rut. at Healing Waters, an explosive goes off underneath the brick stairs that lead from the inside of the church building to the underground crank door.

[@Ghekart]

ive watched this video like 6 times now, i love it every time

[@josh5397]

I'm a firm believer in using a boss' darksight dot effect to tell if there are any hunters within ~50 meters, but can't seem to convince my friends there's a method to my madness. Basically, get all three clues, darksight, and see if the boss darksight effect is static or moving. If static, there are no hunters within the range that would trigger the boss icon to turn red.

[@DaussPlays]

It's sort of like that. The boss doesn't move until someone gets close enough to it that the server wakes it up. Using dark sight when you've got 3 clues already can tell you if someone has come close enough to the boss to wake it up, but it won't tell you if they've come and gone, to the best of my knowledge. Once the boss has 'woken up' it moves around the lair, even if nobody's home.

[@Mx.Moonl1ght]

Another Cornf video makes the day so good

[@natthekiwi7074]

OMG I FIGURED IUT THE DUEL FIRE TRICK AGES AGO AND FORGOT. This video is so good omg

[@warsowgamer4fun]

Keep the great videos going, your HUnt videos are niche admittedly but made with a lot of effort and are perfect infotainment!

[@quadconjures]

Excellent choice of information to provide - everything is functional.

[@TheFakeSlimShady0]

Pls continue this series I just subscribed

[@misterio3678]

I would love a video about swapping time! About explosives: I definitely have killed people through walls with a dynamite and have been killed in the same way. Maybe even an explosive barrel, I don't know if explosive barrels are supposed to go through walls tho. Amazing video as always! Thank you for providing knowledge for the masses! Also I was wondering what happened to your CORNFU intro. I thought it was cute!

[@PureDefenders]

Myth 4 comes from older avto where you could weapon swap and fire 1 bullet and people would think you have a regular mosin, until you full sprayed later on. They patched it out and we were left with this avto

[@indonesiansasquatch4926]

I think youve only done a few videos but I've already learned so much although i have 1200+ hrs in HUNT. Keep doing what youre doing!

[@Cornf]

Will do, glad I can help!

[@undauntedExpounder]

Very based to carry someone else's torch. Subscribed for furthering player knowledge of competitive gaming.

[@animetacoman8577]

great video as always! I know it would be a lot of work, but if you ever do decide to do the swap speeds video, id absolutely love to see it!

[@RimaSuit]

we need more mythbusters! I'm just gonna start for episode 2 that hopefully comes out at point

[@specificdisc568]

Just learned the frags can bounce off walls into water and still explode that's a neat trick. Great vid again

[@normalkid4469]

Not even 2 minutes in and I'm already loving this guy 😂

[@Cornf]

Glad you enjoy!

[@cassidy8307]

Love to see it. RIP 4FS (they're not dead, their channel is though)

[@jaredbowman7764]

I would love a draw/holster time video. This is not something I have considered before. Also the dynamite bounce technique is definitely something I did not know about.

[@glebustinov5701]

Have always used frags to wallbang people with shrapnel Works almost all the time Anyway, great vid, explosive wall bounce trick is insane

[@trackeralias1124]

the amount of times i've been killed or injured by a sticky grenade i've put on the target, then gone upstairs and been hurt whilst they are downstairs is infuriating

[@xCrodumx]

In Blanchett's church,the wood of the 1st floor must have huge gaps because dynamites kill you when exploding under it

[@channinggondzar1038]

Enjoyed the vid, looking forward to what you put out next

[@БродягаТатарский]

Best intro ever. Pls don’t change it

[@monstercreations7775]

May 4FS rest in power

[@bobsaget8791]

bayou shounic out here doing the Lord's work

[@Cornf]

Maybe one day I can test 100 man hunt showdown servers lol

[@MrXHemingwayX]

How did you find out 4FS retired? I had no idea. I know he hasn’t posted in years but still. So glad your taking on the myth busters it needed a comeback!

[@cassidy8307]

He hasn't said anywhere that he retired, but at the very least they're not active and probably won't be active again anytime soon.

[@mightypistachio1726]

your intro gives big "loading screen tips" energy

[@Tockohead260]

Although I love the myths you've busted and learned a thing or two even after over 1500 hours... I'm more amazed by the consecutive headshots you get in the shooting range!

[@Cornf]

Always nice to hear that I'm even showing experienced players a couple of new tricks

[@cignature4489]

You're my favorite Hunt KZbinr rn

[@asterionleb]

loved the 4fs gaming shoutout

[@koleking2519]

I would absolutely love a video for holster and draw times, imo they are two of the most important stats in low ttk games and it really blows trying to navigate hunts menu and "statistics" as a new player

[@Math_Yeww]

Love the Rendi easter egg for spheralbrah

[@Cornf]

If I had more time to edit his voice you better believe I was going to make it sound like *CHESTBRAH*

[@HYDRARMOR]

I don't have footage but i remember vividly, how I threw a big dynamite bundle in nicholls prison near the white houses and it killed the guy outside and one INSIDE the wooden house (suprise kill because i didn't know he was there at all).

[@cloggedpizza239]

I have been blown to bits through concreat by frags.

[@shawnwesner9431]

Great video series. Love it, keep up the great work bro

[@TheGlaring]

I don't think I have any footage of it but I've been killed by a frag bomb that was thrown on the upstairs of Kingsnake while I was downstairs.

[@yacc636]

as i already mentioned in another video i love this kind of educational video content, and i still think there is a bit of gap in the hunt content creator scene for this, keep up the good work! 😃👍

[@Cornf]

I'll do my best!

[@genin8562]

High quality videos! Thank you!

[@Cornf]

Glad you appreciate them!

[@chatjambon8917]

Great content as always! Thanks hunt brother ❤

[@gerhard2123]

I am filled with nostalgia seeing bob the cat as your avatar.

[@truthxbl]

I've been dyna-penned through sandbags piles

[@RadioactiveLobster]

One that I think HAS to be tested is the long standing argument over if ping abuse is a thing. Some say it is, others say it's a myth. Does a higher ping (to a certain limit) give you an advantage because the game is giving you a larger window on kills/shots/etc... to compensate for your higher ping. We've all had those insane trades where you kill someone, run for half a second around a corner and then die and then check their STEAM profile later and find they were playing from halfway around the world. Sure, a ping of 500ms is going to be basically unplayable but what is the range where it becomes a detriment to you? Is playing with a ping of 150ms giving you an advantage over playing with 30 ms against the same players? Generally you'd think that a lower ping is always better but if they game is doing some weird shenanigans to try to compensate for higher pings on some players, then is that giving those players an unfair advantage over someone with a lower ping. We also have this circumstantial idea that when we see the Yellow/Red server icons generally we expect there to be high ping players in the game. We've had multiple games where we'd get server issues, lag spikes, delayed kills/trades on people but once that team was wiped and gone from the server, all the issues went away. Do high ping players being present on a server introduce these problems or is that just us jumping to conclusions? This one would probably be a pain to test and would require getting community members from all around the world together for testing or by using VPN's to increase your latency but I think it is something that can be tested. Wish Crytek would add to the "Team Details" screen at the end of the game what the players average PING was. A lot of other multiplayer games let you see opponents PINGs.

[@DaussPlays]

We know ping abuse is a thing because Hunt uses client side confirmation for shots. If your client tells the server 'My shot hit', the server says 'Okay' and confirms it, instead of verifying it itself. If you're already dead on the other guys screen but that information hasn't been received on your end due to high ping, you have a larger window to retaliate and confirm a kill, resulting in a trade. It's the real world trade off Crytek decided to use, with the alternative being having the game server confirm all your shots, which would lead to it's own set of problems since you'd have to work around your ping to the server and adjust your shot depending on how good your connection was.

[@TeemoStricker]

Would be very interested in a draw-speed vid, even so I lack the skill to make use of this. XD

[@danheskia3987]

Test if the primal pact trait instinct conveys the distance of enemy hunters via the intensity of the orange flickering or whispers. I'd like to see a video on weapon swapping. Good video, hunt has been missing myth busters for some time.

[@SaintLumbridge]

Just listening at work so thats why I wasnt looking, but as soon as you said "pvm" in the explosives video I knew you were an osrs player. 😂 Now I see the pfp

[@learnparenthesis]

If you are on the roof of brickwork near the chimney, and an explosion goes off bottom floor inside the chimney, it will damage you. jumping into water reduces fall damage, if its deep enough you wont take any damage.

[@Rubsmoy]

Noooooo my secret frog jump

[@AsBusiness-jm1rb]

i followed you bcs it takes time to make content like that . Good luck on your journey