Hunt The Slower Cars Daytona Edition - Forza Motorsport

[@gabehowe2778]

More of this with different cars/grid spots would be fun. It seems to be fairly well balanced in this game, better than the Horizons it seems

[@longbowxmkii]

It's only well balanced because I did testing and then maths to figure it out. There is no automatic mode to make this happen xD

[@GuillaumePerronNantel]

@@longbowxmkii and you did a great job finding the balance!

[@gabehowe2778]

@@longbowxmkii ah I see. That explains a lot. Great work with it though.

[@OliverFacey]

@@longbowxmkii Thanks for putting in the time to set it up. A really enjoyable video and I hope the rest of the filming crew had fun race.

[@longbowxmkii]

Alex is right that the Zakspeed Mustang looks like a smushed Zakspeed Capri, because it is the same car with a new bodystyle x)

[@ciderandthorazine]

terrific work with the grid-balancing there longbow! much appreciated and made for an excellent challenge video.

[@nathanstroud2223]

The Mercury Capri of the 80s would really confuse him. It was called a Capri, but it was really a Mustang.

[@longbowxmkii]

@@nathanstroud2223 That's true. Especially if they had made it into a Zakspeed Capri (American version) from a European Capri lol

[@shawnbenson9703]

I absolutely loved this format. Some of the most exciting stuff I've seen form FailRace!

[@anperson8329]

So it's a Gran Turismo 7 single player race?

[@insertgenericusernamehere2402]

No because that would be done within 5 corners 😂

[@cyph3r76]

I was thinking the same. Shows how difficult it is to get the balance right between too easy and impossible

[@cyph3r76]

When Alex goes wayyyy reminds me of the farmer in Shaun the sheep.

[@velvetrosang4684]

😂

[@mjrc123]

This was so great! More of these please.

[@Michcioglb]

Nice game mode would like to see it more often

[@davidtt8372]

I was just thinking that you haven't done one of these in a while. Thanks love it

[@SteAnderson]

Oli must be unreal at this game! You absolutely smoke it, if you don’t win, he does! Or Liam haha should get them to film from there POV one day 😎

[@DrakeGamer85]

_"Tonight, we do a race where being slow could be bad, could be good, or could cause an accident. Watch on to see:_ 2:30 _"A Grumply Audi cuts a corner._ 11:39 _"Maza and Nissan have a joint venture._ 23:49 _"There's trouble at the corkscrew!_ 9:51 "And Alex's Cadillac ... goes to mow some grass."_

[@MrJimmyD-Itsafarmsimlife-rj9gr]

Loved this video, it was a great challenge and very entertaining to watch, be great to see this challenge again.

[@MichaelBrandon10]

Got that 3rd by less than a hundredth of a second, good sir

[@nathanstroud2223]

"I think we have a bit more speed than the Chevrolet DPi. I think that's a slightly older DPi car, I think. I don't know anything about these cars. I'm sorry." Okay, I'll fill you in. There's really no such thing as an "older DPi car," because that formula was only around for one generation from 2017-2022 and the cars didn't really evolve that much if at all in that span. The only major change I can think of is performance tweaks to try to separate DPi from LMP2 when they were split into two classes from 2019 onward. The car SPeeDBEAsTx is driving is a true Daytona Prototype, but one with several enhancements over the spec that was run in the Grand Am years, changes that were made in order to boost the performance of the DPs to the level at which they could compete directly with the LMP2s of the time (and also the DeltaWing) in the same class. In reality, these improvements went too far and made the Daytona Prototypes OP. They could now brake and turn about as well as the P2s, and they had a clear straight line speed advantage, at least early on. You could not pass them on track. The DPs ended up with a final win record of 25-6 vs. all other cars in their class in that early unification period of IMSA from 2014-2016, even sweeping every race of the 2015 season (in the prototype class, not overall). You may have noticed both of the Daytona Prototypes in the Forza Motorsport series, both the Corvette and the Ganassi Ford-Riley, are from that 2015 season.

[@longbowxmkii]

If my memory serves, most of the DP advantage was from low speed mechanical grip, as they were less reliant on DF and had more mass That also had the effect of making them really quick on restarts, as they could bring the tyres up quick If the race was green for a while, the LMP2s had the advantage. But this is IMSA, so that rarely happened lol

[@nathanstroud2223]

@@longbowxmkii Yeah, I remember the starts being a big advantage for them now that you mention it.

[@corbinselanne7990]

I wouldn't be too surprised if this happens again at Le Mans in June for the 24 Hours of Le Mans

[@longbowxmkii]

You know...I may have to steal that idea lol

[@goldosprey]

Is it any coinicendce that the 24 Hour race is this weekend? to answer your question its the Friday before that race

[@longbowxmkii]

It is not a coincidence, I suggested it for this reason 😅

[@goldosprey]

@@longbowxmkii thanks for the reply Longbow, hopefully you keep your cars planted.

[@EvanMoon]

Starting with cold tires, makes the difference between first or not being on the podium at all

[@Darker_Waters]

Yay! This is what I've been wanting. =)

[@audriussavickas2393]

Man, this is perfect, but try to add one more lap because there is consistent 10s gap till first place

[@DPhoenix29]

The largest gap at the end of the races was 3.4s in race 3, another lap and he would have beaten everyone no contest, which I don't think is the result they were all going for.

[@longbowxmkii]

You can adjust the roll-offs, which is what was done. And despite what I calculated, there was a significant amount of guesswork involved too lol

[@modothegreat108]

@@longbowxmkii I’d say you did a spiffy job of it, really! Race 2 Alex was right there, and the other two races he *could’ve* been closer if he’d lost less time early on dealing with cold tires, I reckon.

[@ConnorHammond]

@@longbowxmkiii mean, you're not only working with the cars, but the individual drivers and their driving styles. You did a great job!

[@shadybrady9738]

Daytona added to Forza, now you must do a video using the Tri-oval.

[@robertsertori5559]

I thought he was maybe 3-5 seconds too slow in the middle race, but a good 3rd and 4th lap.

[@OnlyShred]

Try this on the Nurburgring when it comes out

[@ktotheswiss1617]

How about Cat and Mouse. It should work with any race game. Let the Mice do one lap while the Cats sit waiting for the Mice at the start line. Then someone do a count down and which ever teams mouse crosses the finish line, the game will end.

[@kennelly1066]

Great video loved that very entertaining!

[@_BreathOfFreshAir_]

I arrived second, and as u can see I’ve done this properly.

[@xnotasweatx]

Interesting they added a DPi car instead of another LMDH

[@andrewhardman3216]

I would love the Mazda DPi car from a couple seasons back it was beautiful

[@longbowxmkii]

@@andrewhardman3216 Yes it would. And in their defense, at least there's now 2 of the DPis in the game out of the 4 that exist

[@AXIDNT66]

It's kinda the Forza way, add cars that are 5 years old instead of new ones. The Mazda DPi was found in SteamDB files, looks likely to be a Car Pass car later on.

[@longbowxmkii]

@@AXIDNT66 Hopefully! They do add a lot of older cars. Presumably because they're easier to access

[@Drift13b88]

The Cadillac would be new IMSA GTP class 👍🏻

[@Drift13b88]

Classed as LMDh when it races in WEC

[@jackmatthews4545]

Would love to see you play the new F1 game

[@117johnpar]

Daytona 24 is tomorrow.

[@watkinscopicat]

do you know that you’re saying: “Astin” Martin?

[@whichgodofthousandsmeansno5306]

Is the official term for a group of cars actually called a "gaggle"?😁

[@whichgodofthousandsmeansno5306]

Seems you need another lap for any wins. But being you can get a podium perhaps with more practice wins are possible without an extra lap. So close. Literally seconds.

[@swordmonkey6635]

Watching you hugging the bottom of the banked oval was painful. lol The Cadillac doesn't like the curbs because of its race suspension and the ground effects underneath the car. If the car gets lifted slightly, it acts like an airfoil and upsets the car. The suspension on those cars are basically non existent compared to the cars you usually drive, so if you upset one front wheel with a curb, the entire car suffers for it... which again, upsets the underside aero.

[@chevypower22350]

But the fast way around is to hug the bottom of the oval. Watch the Cadillac's pole run for Daytona this year.

[@swordmonkey6635]

@@chevypower22350 High bank ovals are made to allow cars to turn without losing speed since physics allows them to "stick" to the banked track where on a flat surface turn of the same degree, they would have to slow. That's why you see cars up on the ovals during races instead all trying to hug the bottom of the track. There's the shortest way around a track (bottom), but it's not the fastest.

[@chevypower22350]

@swordmonkey6635 that's not why prototypes high up on the oval during the race. They overtake the slower cars on the outside because they are so much faster they can make the pass and slower classes usually take the preferred line. Throughout the race if there's no traffic the GTP's will be on the bottom of the banking. That is the preferred line on the banking.

[@swordmonkey6635]

@@chevypower22350 Watch any banked oval race. The higher up the banking, the faster a car can go. It's the balance between the shortest distance (bottom) and fastest maintained speed (high up). It's the only reason the track is banked: for maintaining high speed. It's physics.

[@chevypower22350]

@swordmonkey6635 that only works on progressive banking tracks where the banking gets steeper the higher up you go. Very rarely will you find an oval with consistent banking where the high line is faster. I promise you I have watched plenty of oval racing and pretty much every other type of racing there is. Clearly you know more than the professional drivers in the Daytona 24 who are staying to the bottom of the banking.

[@jaketswanson]

Yay top three

[@EvaCampbell]

Awesome

[@tropicalsniper4667]

First?

[@_BreathOfFreshAir_]

No

[@ReptileRunt]

I liked my own comment.

[@doubleutubefan5]

I liked this reply to you liking your comment

[@Dogteddy1]

too much rubbish talking and laughing at self.