You need to get here right now!! The box has been acting up for the past 3 months, but now the inspector is here!! Customers will never change....
@HVACRVIDEOS3 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@jok3yjesu3393 жыл бұрын
I've worked at a few restaurants and fast food places and they all did that because they wanted to be cheap but saving money here is gonna cost them more later on
@DESUDESU243 жыл бұрын
I work in IT and I see the same shit all the time, especially from our break-fix customers. Generally our contract customers are better about this, but I'm not sure how customer relationships work in the HVAC world.
@DrGreenGiant11 ай бұрын
"Ignorance on your part does not create an emergency on my part"
@CajunJosh3 жыл бұрын
"I failed my inspection." Translation "I don't check my temps until things go drastically wrong."
@rpurdy48213 жыл бұрын
Exactly what I was thinking too.
@CodeOrangeful3 жыл бұрын
"I don't check Temps till my food is growing a fungi forest " should be the quote of the day
@davidmutke53323 жыл бұрын
You took the words out of my mouth...
@DeepThinker2023 жыл бұрын
At a restaurant? Where food is served?
@Dustquake3 жыл бұрын
I'm not fluent in all models of course. But I have yet to see a walk in that doesn't have a thermostat by the entrance. She knew. I wonder if it was the restaurant personel or the owners that put it off.
@dose90563 жыл бұрын
Lol, I hate when I'm sent to a call where the health inspector is waiting. Especially when the fridge has probably been up in temp for months!
@semidvdcdt84333 жыл бұрын
First thing I thought just by reading the title haha
@zack99120003 жыл бұрын
It doesn't bother me, I show them why it's down and will take time. Emergency on their part due to neglect is not a Emergency on my part.
@lostinthewoods39183 жыл бұрын
@@zack9912000 damn right bro, they think we give a f about their service lol no we just give a f if the unit works
@gowdsake71032 жыл бұрын
Then refuse to go ! Oh damm you just care about the money huh !
@onefastslimjim2 жыл бұрын
@@gowdsake7103 Yeah, it's called running a business and keeping the lights on and food on your plate.
@MrExistien3 жыл бұрын
HVACR guy from Germany... honestly I'm a little glad to see that even half way around the globe we all have the same problems with customers and manufacturers xD
@GottSegneDich3 жыл бұрын
It’s not often people get upset with you arriving early.
@yippietheback-flippingdog11063 жыл бұрын
“I’m mad that a service provider is here to solve my problem.” Lmao it makes no sense bro.
@mathewrussell15333 жыл бұрын
Until you get married
@tristanhameleers75063 жыл бұрын
Maybe se was actually so happy that she got mad or she was mad and happy add the same time
@dennisolsson31193 жыл бұрын
A tip for the hard to reach with wrench-spots; check out "crows feet". Ratchet mounted fork wrench. Don't know if it will help you, but it might.
@dennisolsson31193 жыл бұрын
That was not meant as a reply. I was in a hurry and distracted ;)
@Mtaalas3 жыл бұрын
I'm no HVAC guy, but I can recognize a person who has pride in their work and doesn't like to do shoddy job and makes sure it's done properly and the next person in mind who has to deal with their work. That's not so common anymore. I'm an electronics designer and sound technician.. .and I can recognize the mindset... keep at it! :)
@4thlinegooner5823 жыл бұрын
The word "hurry" is not in my work related vocabulary anymore, the boss says "can you hurry and....", I say "can you make my wallet heavier?", discussion ends.
@graywolf26943 жыл бұрын
my boss gets pissed and tell me to do it fast and right, then gives me shit says its my fault when things don't work out
@winstonwright36133 жыл бұрын
Thats where the old "Good, Fast, Cheap" venn diagram comes in. You can have any 2 of the 3. But not all 3 at once. You can't rush, and do a thorough job.
@redthorne28363 жыл бұрын
Totally stealing this
@inoahmann75423 жыл бұрын
@@redthorne2836 same, lol
@zarand25543 жыл бұрын
I should try this on my boss(es).
@dashcamandy22423 жыл бұрын
"Hurry, the health inspector is here, and my employees have been fudging the temps so I have no idea how long the cooler's been acting up!" Perhaps I'm wrong, but I've worked in enough of these places to know that is a far more likely story than the cooler going tits-up _just as the inspector arrived_ - sure, it's possible, but the odds are slim.
@AaronCo293 жыл бұрын
"Under Promise, Over Deliver" Those are words to live by, in my opinion. I became very successful and built a business with that. I have also had people tell me, "We failed our inspection" but the truth is, its on them to make sure everything is on point, when it needs to be on point. I get it, we are all in this together to some degree, but if that manager goes on vacation, do you know? My guess is no, you don't. Now, with that said, I will still take into consideration, and have given a discount, or reduced cost, but that is my choice.
@AlexOtter3 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate your videos. I've been watching now for about a year. I work on the electrical side of industrial automation and see many parallels between the types of work we do in terms of technical support and service calls. Being able to look over your shoulder and watch your problem solving process is awesome and has shown me a few different ways to look at things that I might not have thought about before. Thank you for the effort you put into making this content. You're helping and entertaining so many people with your channel. :)
@HVACRVIDEOS3 жыл бұрын
Thanks bud
@ratchet1freak3 жыл бұрын
that secondary valve you removed ir actually handy to replace the dryer, the king valve and secondary liquid line valve isolate the dryer which means you can replace it and I believe also has a port into the isolated point area which even lets you evacuate before opening the valves again.
@jman08703 жыл бұрын
I would actually install isolation ball valves with ports around driers on large systems if they didn't exist so that I could replace a carbon core drier with a standard drier without pulling the charge. It is such a time saver for burnout cleanups on large systems!
@semidvdcdt84333 жыл бұрын
I love so much doing these clean/small upgrades on units that have been working wrong for so many years... Really satisfying. 👌
@JesusRodriguez-bu1gy3 жыл бұрын
That mini rant about the manufacturers not thinking about the service techs.. I felt that.
@haydenuk023 жыл бұрын
Excellent work and thanks for sharing this with us take care
@pjkillaastudlovin3 жыл бұрын
The most hilarious part of this video is when you pull the sniffer out and say I'm going to check all of my brazed fittings after you've already put the charge back into the circuit!!! I needed that thank you 😊
@briankobes82083 жыл бұрын
I like the way you mounted the new controls, I’m going to start doing that.
@briant97643 жыл бұрын
Great watching, you know what you are doing,i worked in the refrigeration trade for 40y mostly in restaurants. I miss that smell that you get on your hands from a evaporator coil. I would love it when they called you out at night to fix the walk in freezer, they said it was at temp and few hours ago. But you saw the ice cream melted floor or 4 feet of ice on the evap coil lol.
@rickchan37893 жыл бұрын
Those clouds are a trip
@nicker1033 жыл бұрын
So I fix things. Always have. Cooked, managed, purchasing, then worked for IBM Fixing things. Boeing, POS, registers, printers, servers. phones, Looking back on my varied career I wished I would have just taken refrigeration in my youth. Fascinates me, and I think I could have been good. Love your videos...
@sherwinalvarez73653 жыл бұрын
Very good. Alot of learning for the new jack.
@brandoncole66293 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the thorough walk through of you thought process and thinking ahead for future service, there are things I’m picking up from you that I never got from those who trained me.
@Ted_E_Bear3 жыл бұрын
Great job Chris !!
@De4thHunter1173 жыл бұрын
Here in europe we use a 2 to 3 bar difference for fan switching. So 29 to 43 psi. You look up the pressure for 42°C condensation and use that as cut in for 1 fan and like 45°C for a 2nd fan
@youdontknowme59693 жыл бұрын
3:43 I have those moments too 🤣
@Tokaisho13 жыл бұрын
Really nice solution with the two fan cycles
@primetime7583 жыл бұрын
see Chris this is where we differ the fan cycle control is suppose to be on the liquid line 1. Discharge is always higher 2.i want to control the pressure after the freon has circulated through the condenser. 3 to change anything simply close the reciever
@jasonjohnsonHVAC3 жыл бұрын
Not long ago i put fan cycling on a RTU for a server room for low ambient cooling. Had a 3 phase condenser fan motor. I set up everything correctly to maintain a 90° saturation and keep the evap from freezing up. Still the fan was on off on off constantly. Customer didn't want to pay for an economizer. Their maintenance guy was on the roof and watching the fan bang on off. He calls me and asks if that was good for the motor......i said no, but that is what you wanted to pay for. He didn't like it, neither did i. They ended up paying for an economizer to be installed. Lol.
@chap38453 жыл бұрын
Leave the 2nd liquid fitting next time. Just makes it really easy to check pressure drop across the drier.
@jeffreykubiak51263 жыл бұрын
Nice Chris its all about the solid column of liquid to the expansion valve! I like how you left a open port for backup on discharge! For future use! Going to rewatch on importance of lead and lag condenser fan operation. Got my field piece probes haven't used them yet. Hopefully back to work soon? Measure quick !
@ElmerCat3 жыл бұрын
Another thought, considering the service call was triggered by a dirty condenser - suppose the fan control could also reverse direction cyclically and/or periodically. Might this help to keep the condenser clean by blowing out dirt and debris from the other side, each time it changes airflow direction?
@lactosis--undefined3 жыл бұрын
Nice job! You worried me on the first sweat but then I remembered you know what your doing.
@jonka13 жыл бұрын
@15:16 lovely example of how you controlled the temperature of that joint to wick the braze up into the area you wanted.
@terrytugwood78483 жыл бұрын
Another great video Chris , not sure why you felt it necessary to cut out the shut off valve surely leaving it in meant you have isolated both sides of the drier/sight glass?
@giorgosktoridis9033 жыл бұрын
Now when the filter dryer gets restricted he needs to evacuate the evaporator and lines.if there was no access valve just add one between the two king valves. How much would that cost more?
@jonsaircond85203 жыл бұрын
Hmm let's see the old saying " Failure to plan on your part does not constitute a emergency on mine" Customers never change residential or commercial
@craigmarshall403 жыл бұрын
Great video 😉
@HVACRDUDE3 жыл бұрын
Use the yellow hoses instead of the red n blue one. 10x faster...I use the yellow for everything 😉
@AaronCo293 жыл бұрын
On the service friendly aspect, I grew up with 2 guys, they are both engineers now, one for Whirlpool, the other was for Chevrolet, and I have had conversations on facebook with both of them, they both said the same thing, "We have computers now that tell us it works fine". sad to say, that is how they think, they let a computer think for them, rather than let common sense and reality come into play.
@donnierobertson30883 жыл бұрын
Great job and video like always
@pennsylvaniahvacproduction66583 жыл бұрын
Hi HVACR videos how are you?
@lindseyyah13 жыл бұрын
Great job and great work
@RabbitsInBlack3 жыл бұрын
Again. This is why you always check your fridges and freezers. I have remote sensors, mechanical thermometers and the digital thermometers mounted in every one of them. Every Morning I check these temps and a couple times a day they are to be checked by other staff. This is how you never fail an inspection. Every Morning I take a walk around the restaurant and make a note of anything wrong. A few minutes of checks can save you a world of hurt.
@DKhoe5393 жыл бұрын
This guy Chris is THE GOAT 🐐 in HVACR. Love the videos keep them coming man. Wish I can work for you. It would be an amazing learning experience with you as teacher 👍🏻.
@dirk_diggler3203 жыл бұрын
Are hot work permits not required when you burn ?? If I use so much as a heat gun , I need permits . Guess that is the difference in working hvac vs industrial battery repair .
@andrewhicks64943 жыл бұрын
Good video as always, but with you guys having the warmer Cali temps why not just cycle one fan motor? And to each his own but I despise flare fittings have you used the zoom lock dryers?
@alexanderlewis2393 жыл бұрын
As always another very interesting video from you, thank you...One small point... The units were using R404A refrigerant a blend........ Sometimes recovering and reintroducing blends can cause performance problems,,, ... 407C in ACs was the terrible, , the gauge pressures appeared to be satisfactory but cooling performance was poor...
@jman08703 жыл бұрын
I almost got myself into trouble once by trying to cycle fans independently. You have to be very careful that the second fan doesn't spin backwards with only one fan running because PSC motor torque sucks and will actually start backwards if it's torque isn't enough to stop the motor and reverse the rotation. Typically it's not an issue if each fan has it's own venturi it sits in. My experience was on a 7.5 ton York split and the props don't have venturis because York sucks.
@HVACRVIDEOS3 жыл бұрын
Great point!!
@jman08703 жыл бұрын
@@HVACRVIDEOS It was only that one isolated incident for me but I'll never forget it, that's for sure!
@bmorekairful3 жыл бұрын
Question: I have a heat pump, heats fine one heat mode pressures etc., switch it to cool mode, valve switches pressures rise to 225/75 (r22) very good then suction pressure steadily drops over next 10 sec. gotta be a restriction I’m thinking. Thoughts.
@NuttyProfessor-3 жыл бұрын
I did a job for the nastiest restaurant yesterday in their walk in cooler. Mold on the lettuce and walls and food stored in ways you wouldn't believe. I was fixing to call the health department but then they asked me to come back next week to look at some other units on the roof. Lol maybe I'll call after
@gowdsake71032 жыл бұрын
How many people did you make sick did you ever think that ?
@Rosie-xm2yd2 жыл бұрын
this is job been working for hvac cooles keep it up
@lowtemp3 жыл бұрын
Up north we have head pressure control valves due to low ambient. Fan cycling is never a good way to control head. Way too much fluctuation. Shortens life of compressors.
@neilvestervictor1803 жыл бұрын
just want to ask if you left the system running the same way after cleaning the condenser would it be a problem great job professional work
@newkidontheblockism3 жыл бұрын
I had to work on 3 reach ins and a walk-in last night. Got home at 3am and it’s all because the health inspector showed up and threatened to shut them down 🙄
@darkmann123 жыл бұрын
Love the fast changing colours on the pipes when brazing, looks pretty sick
@kyleh19743 жыл бұрын
The HVAC School App has a recovery tank fill calculator in it. It takes the thought out of it.
@EverythingHVACR3 жыл бұрын
Nothing is easily serviceable anymore, welcome to commercial refrigeration 🤣 great professional work as usual!
@MrXelig3 жыл бұрын
Automotive is the same, change a headlight bulb in a GM vehicle lately?
@treverkirk81103 жыл бұрын
Couple thoughts, did you consider just installing a headmaster instead of the fan cycling controls? Receiver looks generally large enough. Also with pipe insulation outside, I’m starting to wonder why it’s the norm for it to be unprotected/uncovered. It obviously gets just trashed from being in the elements. I feel like it should be typical to cover, like with the white plastic cover for instance.
@Bryan-Hensley3 жыл бұрын
Looks like dual fan controls would make it very inefficient because with only one fan running it's going to pull most of the air though the fan that's not running instead of through the condenser. Wasting fan energy.
@HVACRVIDEOS3 жыл бұрын
Nah it's got a baffle in between the fans
@FishFind30003 жыл бұрын
Do you see more maintenance issues with privately owned restaurants than commercially owned chains?
@zack99120003 жыл бұрын
For tne commercial own chains have it figured in their budget every year for yearly or monthly cleaningsand inspections. Also they are quick to approve big repairs. Small business owners want it Frankenstein to work and won't do many repairs unless it is broken and they want it fixed. With them it's always why can't you fix it now, when we have told them for a long time it is going to fail. Small business always have excuses and always pay late
@superiorcomfortheatingairl46363 жыл бұрын
The reason manufacturers don’t make them serviceable, they want you to replace them with a new unit once they break down
@HVACRVIDEOS3 жыл бұрын
Yeah you are right!!
@eeuwedevries3 жыл бұрын
Looks more serviceable than most cars/ machines if worked on. Looks like you have access to most of the tings with little disassembly.
@De4thHunter1173 жыл бұрын
@@eeuwedevries that reminds me of my dad's old car, an opel meriva where you almost had to pull the engine out to change the light bulbs
@Eledore3 жыл бұрын
My take: If we make them hard to service, the field guys will either break something that will need fixing, or they will make it serviceable on there own. SO us designing badly is giving them job security, and all we get are complaints about it.. Ungratefull
@inoahmann75423 жыл бұрын
@@Eledore not wrong about the job security.
@prophetfgsm3 жыл бұрын
On the high pressure protection, I think some standards association don't allow shrader under the protection since it can "fail" where the depressor slips next to the valve and essential renders the high pressure protect useless. This isn't the same on fan cycling/low pressure as those protect the equipment from breaking down as opposed to the high pressure which is a safety concern.
@davidwyatt48453 жыл бұрын
It is a UL requirement that the high pressure safety cannot be “valved” off.
@semidvdcdt84333 жыл бұрын
That's really good to know. I often see hoses with depressor on rack without Shrader... And the depressor break and block the control from reading. And that's factory on multisystem parrallel rack. But I still see new systems shipped with a hose / depressor / Shrader valve on the HP safety control such as Keeprite, etc.. Thank you for the infos :)
@briansmith6135 Жыл бұрын
Is that a reclaim or pump down cylinder you used to do the recovery?
@jphvac57253 жыл бұрын
Since king valve stopping you from recovering at receiver in pump down, why not just valve down other liquid valve with Allen key and still have access to king valve pressures?
@jphvac57253 жыл бұрын
Just a thought after fact, regardless great repair!
@MrTurboturbine3 жыл бұрын
Your helper does a nice job with the camera.
@jtbiberdorf3 жыл бұрын
Why didn’t you change the high pressure switch to a manual reset one? Who know what damage that compressor went through cycling on and off.
@Chris27451003 жыл бұрын
Would that coil cleaner be safe on residential units? Could a homeowner buy it?
@BigHappysPlace3 жыл бұрын
It doesn't surprise me that she was upset. I get the same treatment with POS systems. Having the 2 fans cycle in that manner makes the system most efficient in the long run as you are not running both fans thus saving power. Just my 2 bits.
@Guillotines_For_Globalists3 жыл бұрын
They don't make machines to be serviced, they make machines to be replaced.
@snoopyjc3 жыл бұрын
I just noticed you have 100K+ subscribers - CONGRATS!!! Keep up the great work!
@HVACRVIDEOS3 жыл бұрын
Thanks bud!
@Wisconsin.pikachu3 жыл бұрын
Is it required to collect the refrigerant if a building is getting demolished? My local mcds just got torn down and I never saw a hvac truck there before, the place was open the day before demo
@PapasDino3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Chris, good troubleshooting story. When you say "I talked to the customer" do you (in general) mean the corporate maintenance office or is it ever with the staff there at the facility? Obviously for single-user accounts it would be the owner there...what percentage of your accounts are corporate vs.single-facility? Happy Easter!
@zack99120003 жыл бұрын
For us the site manager is allowed to approve repairs up to certain dollar amount and anything over it they call or email for us. If the main office needs a written repair quote we send it. Sometimes we are pre approved for repairs under X dollar amounts
@tdevinetampa3 жыл бұрын
Never use a schrader core on a high pressure safety control.
@markstanchin16923 жыл бұрын
I remember those Days when I worked for Outback steakhouse as Mechanical Maintenance.
@shine-cg9uf3 жыл бұрын
Great 📹.!. When u recover from both sides of system do u energize evaporator circuit or use solenoid valve magnet ? Thanks again!
@sherwinalvarez73653 жыл бұрын
I think when you cut the unit off when its calling the solinoid stays open.
@shine-cg9uf3 жыл бұрын
@@sherwinalvarez7365 solenoid valve if its a normally closed valve closes when no power to it. So to recover u either energize evaporator circuit or use a magnet.
@dynamic_zero3 жыл бұрын
Was the evacuation pump leaking at 8:18?
@ElmerCat3 жыл бұрын
@ 21:24 - Is there an operational or efficiency advantage to having the fan closest to the inlet running more than the other fan? Surely, this will have a side-effect of causing that side of the condenser to get much dirtier than the other side. In addition, the fan motor would be expected to wear out sooner. Considering a dirty condenser is what triggered this service call, and to mitigate the cost of future fan motor replacement, would it be worthwhile to use a more advanced fan control which can alternate between fans to cycle them equally?
@richardbartlett69323 жыл бұрын
Hmmm The first thing to try would be just running one fan on the switch to cycle and see how that performed. If it really needed additional (which I doubt) control then a proper FSC should have been fitted to control both fans at the same time. IIRC these T should have a copper washer for them to avoid brass to brass . You've introduced additional leak points with these new connections especially using flares which are known to be the most likely point to leak on a system.. Worse they are on the discharge which is the pipe that suffers most expansion and contraction.
@HVACRVIDEOS3 жыл бұрын
I will discuss this on my Livestream this evening on KZbin 4/5/21 @ 5:PM (pacific) come check it out kzbin.info/www/bejne/sImskKiVn7CAick
@GuitarFury172 жыл бұрын
Do you cycle the furthest fan the most just for ease of service because that one will fail first? Or is it because of the temperature of the coil being warmer closer to the inlet so you want that fan running more?
@westhouse46413 жыл бұрын
8:50 seems like you could benefit from some flare nut box end wrenches
@AaronCo293 жыл бұрын
once those disc type cycle switches go bad, I change them separate cycle switch and solder in tee, recover etc. since we would have to do that anyway, its a little more cost, but beneficial in the long run
@WhitfieldProductionsTV3 жыл бұрын
bean counters that never actually touch their product. sit in their nice little fancy offices and use auto cad. while we bust our asses and asking our selves, if them boys at the bean counting department were high when they made this.
@donalddayton18183 жыл бұрын
Doesn't using Nylog reduce friction? A flare nut with less friction is more likely to loosen from vibration, no?
@PeterParker-tb7ce3 жыл бұрын
We put our Conds. Fan switches on the Liquid Line to use it like a Head Master. Since we don't want the Liquid Line Pressure to go to low.
@curioushvacguy68763 жыл бұрын
random cut away for cloud coverage, priceless
@dragonrider42533 жыл бұрын
heck of a lot of rattling going on while you're braizing there, Chris. Might want to get that looked at.
@Flextro3 жыл бұрын
Aww... poor red wire. It may touched by torch (
@tthack843 жыл бұрын
I like how you set that one up but I was hoping you would leave 1 fan on with the secondary on a pressure switch. But with the inrush of current starting the compressor and a fan, your way is more efficient. Ohh and don't let that manager get to you. They have to blame someone for when they weren't paying attention.
@20somthingrealestate3 жыл бұрын
Why would you need to measure discharge pressure vs liquid line pressure after the receiver?
@schellenbergenator2 жыл бұрын
Maybe I missed it, but why use fan cycling instead of a low ambient valve?
@kevinlupson60633 жыл бұрын
Another great video, just enquiring have you done any trainee/instructional videos would love to see some of these.
@DeepThinker2023 жыл бұрын
Do you service home AC units?
@matthewgregory82183 жыл бұрын
Nice office you did some spring cleaning I see
@joehead12943 жыл бұрын
When you modify from original design do you now assume liability?
@gowdsake71032 жыл бұрын
Technically if you make ANY change even if original fitted yes you do. Which is why getting things repaired is tricky
@Clasped0033 жыл бұрын
about how long did it take to recover that walk in condenser given the setup you had?
@ehsnils3 жыл бұрын
Customer was probably just super-stressed and didn't know where to blow off, so it's not really something to be concerned with. How about a VFD drive on the fans? Probably overkill.
@gowdsake71032 жыл бұрын
Super stressed ? I would have told em to fuck off I am buzy
@tamtdc3 жыл бұрын
She failed her inspection as she hasn’t had preventative maintenance to keep her coils clean or monitored her box temp closely enough to have called you out earlier to resolve it.. none of which is your issue!!
@hvguy3 жыл бұрын
Never understood fan cycling... Why not reject as much heat as possible for efficiency?
@ntsecrets3 жыл бұрын
I wonder if the weird fan cycling may have been running them excessively and contributed to the dirty condenser?
@richardbartlett69323 жыл бұрын
No, they ran 'excessively' in your words because of the condenser blocking up. Cause and effect
@ed68373 жыл бұрын
Only thing is I would have put the dryer and sight glass down on the horizontal and got it away from the receiver so u can access the valve better