Husband Is Overstepping Boundaries With Brothers Ex Who He Considers His Little Sis r/Relationships

[@MarkNarrations]

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[@Flotton]

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[@MarkNarrations]

@@Flotton Always good to see you Flotton :)

[@scheneli000]

WITH ALL THE SYRUP thanks for being you Mark!

[@kbf9644]

*chin nods* ‘Syrup. 😏🌻

[@Resilient_Sage88]

I'd seriously be reconsidering my marriage if my husband tried to get me to fork over my wedding dress to his sister and then disappeared on me for three days when I rightfully put my foot down. They're not poor; they're entitled and lazy.

[@Original_Tenshi_Chan]

And fun fact, good tailoring (to get the dress to fit someone with a totally different body type) can be just as expensive if not more expensive than buying a decent mid-range prom dress off the rack. It wasn't a matter of the in laws being poor, it was control and a power play. Either give them the wedding dress or be ostracized AND pay for the dress they got instead. OP needs to see this for the red flag it is. The sil wasn't crying because OP said the sil is thinner (as evidence by the "you were just jealous she would look better in your wedding dress than you" comment), she was crying as a manipulation tool.

[@Resilient_Sage88]

@@Original_Tenshi_Chan Wow. So it's even worse than I realized. Thanks for the knowledge btw, I've had an interest in learning how to sew a little better so hearing that from someone who knows is pretty interesting.

[@Original_Tenshi_Chan]

@@Resilient_Sage88 it gets pricey real quick, unless they take it to a "discount" tailor. I have an unusual figure. No dress off the rack fits me, so for all my proms and home coming dresses, I had to have them tailored. Without fail, the cost of altering my dress ALWAYS cost more than the cost of the dress. I've heard from some brides it's the same or worse with wedding gowns (more layers, expensive fabric, etc). I wish I knew how to sew, is it something you want to do for a living? It's hard to find tailors, so it's probably a good field to get into if it's what you want.

[@Resilient_Sage88]

@@Original_Tenshi_Chan Not so much for a living, but I think it'd be a practical skill to have. My step-mom made my Junior and Senior prom dresses herself and for a while now I've been thinking about it because I could make so many things if I got better than a 1-2 stitch I know how to do now.

[@vanzy01]

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[@grizbear4115]

Story 1: Sorry, not sorry. I want OP to expose them too even though I know it'll make everything go to complete ish. It's horrible that husband took this moment to make moves on who he claims to "perceive" as his SISTER. She also sucks too because she was literally just cheated on multiple times and is inflicting that pain onto someone else, but it's husband's responsibility to keep boundaries and to stay loyal. Husband is more horrible for this, but I want both of them to get exposed.

[@Original_Tenshi_Chan]

Exactly! And if kelsey thought having a boyfriend cheat is the worst, how does she think it feels to have you husband cheat on you and your kids?? But kelsey is cool with that??

[@SailorMya]

I wonder if her plan was to go after the brother to inflict pain on her ex? Of all the guys she could "rebound" with she choses the one who is married making him a cheater too. If she was thinking about OP she would have never inflicted that pain she felt on her but sounded like she wants to hurt her ex and doesn't care who she steps on to do it...

[@vanzy01]

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[@robertx8020]

@@Original_Tenshi_Chan Who ever said that ppl who got cheated on, can't be hypocrites? :P

[@fytrndm]

Agreed. I would've gone scorched earth on the two. Don't get me wrong, Brad was an arse for cheating on Kelsey but OP did _nothing_ to the husband and her to deserve this. Just because you're in pain, doesn't mean you get to drag people down with you. The husband is a grade A arsehole and Kelsey is doing exactly what Brad did to her. If she doesn't think so, she's also a delusional B.

[@TheIronwil]

Husband's Supposed Sister: Yeah, the affair thing was my first thought, even before the lie about the vacation. Never tolerate people who can't respect your boundaries.

[@DiabolicGoth]

If he wasn't lying about having a physical affair then the whole week before Belize, yes they were definitely planning on fukin then. Really Kelsey has some nerve, she just had her heart broken by her ex having an affair and now she's doing the same thing and become a homewrecker. What a hypocrite! The husband probably would've cheated eventually even if it wasn't with Kelsey. Once you have that mindset it's hard to leave. Op should either try marriage counseling if she wants to try and save the marriage or end things.

[@katharineeavan9705]

@@DiabolicGoth I mean, she's definitely being a prick, but let's put this into perspective here: OP's husband has known her since she was a young teen. Her very long term bf cheats on and dumps her and OP's husband crowds in as her ONLY support network, with her never getting to stand on her own two feet or lean on other supports. OP's husband (who is substantially older than Kelsey) starts inviting her round to get drunk. Stands as the only one not starting to distance from her a little. Starts making moves. There's a word that I think very well encapsulates this pattern of behaviour and it starts with a g.

[@valivali8104]

​@@katharineeavan9705 but since she is 24, she has responsibility of her action. Lowered thanks to her circumstances, but still responsibility.

[@EphemeraImaging]

@@katharineeavan9705 Yep, but she's 24, and knows the OP, who has been nothing but kind to her, and would do that to her? That takes a special kind of vileness. I suspect she plays the 'sweet little girlie' act to the family all the time, while pulling stuff like this and nobody ever believes her to be capable of this kind of vileness. Yet here they are. Husband absolutely is also the same kind of vile.

[@Ospyro3em]

What a mess that family is in now- one brother cheated on and left his partner, then the other brother cheats (at the very least, emotionally) on HIS partner with the partner that was originally cheated on! Try explaining all that to the extended family!

[@curtisalex456]

For me, the young girl is not at fault. The husband preyed on a vulnerable girl!!!

[@LunaP1]

Basically, that family has a bunch of cheaters. They are dysfunctional as hell and this will only end badly.

[@BlackHikariAngel]

@@curtisalex456 sorry i cant agree with that. She crossed boundaries with OPs Husband. She could have said no and put up boundaries especially when OPs husband started sending her flirty texts and non appropriate pics. She also never told OP about her husband was doing so. I understand that she was cheated on but since she was why wouldn't she tell OP that her husband was trying to do things with her allowing him to basically cheat on her.

[@debl3063]

@@curtisalex456 I do think husband prayed on Kelsey. I'm sure she was sucked in hearing all the "right" things from him. I can see her falling for him and wanting to be with him. But she's old enough to know what she's doing is wrong. She's knows how being cheated on feels and to turn around and do that to another woman makes it hard to feel sympathy for her. She collecting sympathy from her ex's family for what happened to her while doing the same thing to OP.

[@anahkit]

​@@curtisalex456 I wouldn't say she doesn't know better because she's young. I knew better than to cheat when I was 13 and I'm a lot older now, had many relationships, got cheated on, but never tried to get in between a relationship while trying to move on from that fact... Plus, why would you deliberately want to hurt someone else (innocent person who is OP) the same way someone hurt you? She's 24, so she should definitely know better. She just doesn't care. She 100% knows what she's doing, even in that state. You're telling me she didn't think twice about the ongoing texting? Hell nah. They're both at fault as the husband is taking advantage of the situation but she is allowing it to happen.

[@civivva4501]

The dinner was a setup. If I was OP I would wear that dress to the supermaket, to the gym EVERYWHERE and take pictures and post to social media. The family ISN'T POOR. PROM IS KNOWN FOR MONTHS. Plan better.

[@marylasiter2803]

She knew all along that's the dress she wanted that's why she didn't get another

[@nataliereeves3594]

They are just trying to use op.

[@EluneAnzu]

Third story: going by the fact they "somehow" managed to find a worthy dress after OP said no I'm guessing the plan was always to ask to use the wedding dress.

[@kimberlyterasaki4843]

Right?! I’d call them cheapskates but the rush tailoring required for the dress probably would’ve cost more than just buying a new prom dress. I get the feeling little sister is the golden child and was jealous of OP and wanted to prove she’s prettier / would wear the dress better.

[@Erinia13]

@@kimberlyterasaki4843 I agree with both you 💯 Also I don't if it's just me but I find it super creepy that she wants to use the wedding dress, keeping in mind that it will be always associated with the thoughts of wedding and brother. I sure AF I wouldn't be comfortable wearing any of my former sisters in law wedding dresses, because it would remind me of my brothers and their weddings like nah thanks.

[@kristelneedtoknow3207]

I 100% the plan all along was to get op to pay for the dress as there is no way they would get a dress tailored in three day. They where just cheap and her husband sounds like a cheap mommy's boy. It his sister why didn't he pay a portion of it. The all sound delusional.

[@lasagnalovingcat5335]

There's an update to it. A family member sent MIL the post after it appeared in an online article and a family member sent it to them when it went viral. They all ganged up on OP for "publicly shaming" them. OP decided to separate from her husband (which should be easy, as he already ran back home to mommy).

[@Erinia13]

@@lasagnalovingcat5335 Thanks for the update 😊 I honestly hope she divorces that mamma's boy at least all this crap came out so soon after marriage and before they had kids so she can have a clean break, his family is obviously toxic AF and are into doubling down.

[@Me-wk3ix]

Husband is sleeping with Kelsey or else would very much like to. I can understand keeping in general contact since she was a part of the family for so long. But what her husband is doing goes way beyond that. I look at this way. Husband would have been crossing boundaries even if Kelsey was still with his brother. EDIT: I typed this before the final update. Called it.

[@anndownsouth5070]

Last story. When OP said her husband left to go stay a his mom's for a few days, my first reaction was "change the locks girl".

[@susankaempfer8427]

And see if it’s too late to get an annulment.

[@nataliereeves3594]

Ime thinking he married op for money considering the circumstances.

[@nr591]

Story 1: How is no one talking about how the husband met Kelsey when she was 13 and he was twice her age!? That makes this so much worse!

[@alyzu4755]

Yeah, that's really icky. 😳

[@katharineeavan9705]

definitely strikes me as grooming tbh

[@Streetwisefirst]

Story 2: imagine being the guest eating these tiny appetizers and looking up at the bride and groom eating a whole roast chicken. I would riot as a guest

[@MarkNarrations]

That story had me in bits! Can you IMAGINE the scenes...holy moly! 😂

[@kimmieevans3598]

I get it ,seems like hubby and Kelsey are starting to get a little too close .if he wants to play Captain save a ....he is dating her without sneaking around instead in front of you .if she is that needy maybe therapy.You really want to know is are you crazy .No you are not.

[@LunaP1]

Same. Flip the damn table!

[@desireeloveros1055]

Right? A roast chicken from the store is like $7 at most

[@deborahpinkey1264]

@@desireeloveros1055 If they go with Wal Mart instead of Publix, they can get it for $4. That bride is out of her freaking cheapskate mind!

[@roelthas]

We need a further update where OP confirms she did dump that creep of a husband.

[@vanzy01]

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[@tharfield9012]

I wonder if husband and brother's ex had a thing first and brother found out and then did his thing.

[@carolroberts4614]

They were a bit quick off the mark, weren't they!

[@susankaempfer8427]

@@tharfield9012yes! I was thinking the same when she sooo quickly hurt op in the same way. 😢

[@jaymevosburgh3660]

​@@tharfield9012 It is shitty that he didn't say anything to Op about it. I know I would have sent them proof.

[@debl3063]

So Kelsey needs lots of support because she was cheated on. Let's all worry about how being cheated on makes HER feel. OP can go to her surgery without husband because Kelsey needs support since she was cheated on. Meanwhile, Kelsey's flirting with someone else's husband and it sounds like they've either been emotionally cheating together and maybe planning to physically cheat while everyone else is on vacation. Or they've already been physical. OP's husband has been on his high horse about how awful his brother was to cheat and then plans to cheat on his own wife. And Kelsey has been sucking up all the extra attention she's gotten from Brad's family. That's pretty messed up. The story sounded like cheating from the beginning. Not sure why all those other posters were getting on OP's case about her trying to set boundaries.

[@deborahpinkey1264]

Right from the start, the story was giving me those Hunter Biden vibes. (I am by no means a right-winger. That situation was just gross for all kinds of reasons. And after divorcing his wife to marry his widowed SIL, he wound up divorcing her as well!)

[@vanzy01]

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[@doggolovescheese1310]

Exactly!!!

[@ronhall5395]

OP husband is a cad. He knew what he was doing. His whole thing about coming on vacation a week later is crazy.. Way too obvious. Then when confronted with the phone texts he states he didn't realize he had crossed the line. BS. He was grooming her for an affair. First OP needs to state clearly that if does not come with her and the kids, he better find a new place to live. Then she needs to start some divorce preparations no matter what he does. He is going to.have to really kiss some A if he wants to save his marriage.

[@nataliereeves3594]

If she was cheated on, she wouldn't do this. There's something else going on here.

[@AndyyWithAY]

I would absolutely not give a teenager my wedding dress for prom! Just the ask is completely ridiculous. Especially if it would require all this tailoring and OP won't even being able to wear it every again. I got my prom dress for like $15. It was a red halter top and I looked amazing. Cost isn't everything

[@andreawalker8343]

I got my prom dress for like $15-20. It was a gorgeous emerald with a mermaid back. My wedding dresses were 10 and 15. I never understand these “can’t find an affordable dress” stories. There is so much second hand stuff in the world.

[@khaleesireyna731]

I paid $0 for both my prom dresses because they were hand-me-down/gifted to me. They're gorgeous and I still have them. Cost (especially for prom) really isn't everything.

[@TiffWaffles]

The fact that this girl wants to wear a wedding dress to the prom is ridiculous. There are so many beautiful dresses out there that are for a cheap price. I didn't go to my prom due to many circumstances and don't really regret it. However, I did get to go to another event hosted by my school for graduates before graduation day (a formal graduation dinner of some kind) where I got to wear a really beautiful yellow cocktail dress for the event. It only cost me $20-$30.

[@Ivy94F]

IKR?? The audacity for them to ask this grown woman to give up her wedding dress for some teenage dance??? GTFOH! Lol. I would’ve laughed in their faces first and then told them no. And then I would’ve shamed them to the wall for even suggesting such a thing!

[@tashas4241]

What is wrong with that girl?!? Normal girls look into dresses 3-4 months before prom here (I'm in Canada). Thank God my brother made my dress, excellent use of his college degree.

[@anonymousonyx9168]

Last OP should sell her wedding ring to help “pay for the dress.” If it’s okay for the in-laws to demand items of sentimental value from their wedding, and her husband thinks it’s okay, then he should have no issue with her giving them her ring or selling it for the money to give them.

[@deborahpinkey1264]

Right. When he left home to go back to his mommy for those three days, he would have come back home to find either his bags packed or mine, but I would be done. OP thought she had married a man. Instead, what she got was a boy. She needs to put him back in the oven. He's not done yet.

[@paulastephenson1862]

Love this idea. OP needs to bail and not spend one more minute on this craziness.

[@vanzy01]

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[@WyntheRogue]

I say sell the ring, anull the wedding and save her dress to marry somebody with a titanium spine that won't make her give in to the demands of an entitled in-law who doesn't sound all that smart with money. :P

[@stellamccoy5259]

Very good idea.

[@lisakaz35]

Are we sure OP's hubby isn't cheating with Kelsey?

[@MarkNarrations]

🤔🤔🤔

[@lisakaz35]

Yep, saw it coming prior to the update.

[@MN-zh2vd]

No, we're definitely not.

[@WobblesandBean]

I'm convinced he is. Edit: Called it.

[@Mypalpayton]

It feels dirty and wrong doesn’t it?

[@brandi5126]

S1: His relationship with her is inappropriate. She isn't his actual little sister. It isn't appropriate for him to keep swooping in to save her and drink at night and join on vacation and live in their house. She needs her friends to help her, not her ex's family. It's cool for her to chill every now and then but not this aggressively.

[@TsukiKageTora]

Who flirts with their “little sister”? 🤮

[@scarlettg.5772]

@@TsukiKageTora exactly?! Gross 🤢

[@michal31131]

@@TsukiKageTora Alabama men

[@DudeEM]

Uhm…..it’s updated. Husband is cheating on OP. He claims they’re only emotionally cheating but OP doubts that no physical thing occurres & is not considering a 2nd chance for the husband.

[@EphemeraImaging]

There's no way that guy thinks of her as his 'little sister'. And Kelsey knew exactly what she was doing. Why do you arrange to stay in a married man's house when his wife and kids are away? I can't get over the number of people calling her naive and innocent, she's 24 years old, for pete's sake!

[@cjandauntieyaya1446]

Story 1: OP is NTA and she should be concerned that there's at least an emotional affair going on between her husband and his brother's ex. That "little sister" sentimentality can get really foggy after a few drinks. OP needs to get her husband into some counseling as this sounds like he's overcompensating out of some guilt about how his brother treated the ex. The husband should not feel obligated to support the ex as this is NOT his relationship.

[@debl3063]

If you listened to the whole story it sounds like they were already flirting and talking about spending time together while the rest of the family was on vacation.

[@cjandauntieyaya1446]

@@debl3063 I always make my opinion before edits and updates because that's only fair. Sadly, the affair already happened and the damage is done.

[@purpledragon2442]

@@cjandauntieyaya1446 pretty much. There’s no way they having slept together at this point. Spending a whole week at home with her while OP and the kids go on vacation? Yeah, he was wanting to screw around all week with her.

[@cjandauntieyaya1446]

@@purpledragon2442 Actually, they could have slept together that night when they stayed up late drinking and OP went to bed.

[@TsukiKageTora]

She (eta: not OP) is no better. She literally got cheated on and was actively flirting with her ex’s brother, a married man. Most people who are cheated on wouldn’t want to conflict the same pain to anyone else, but here she is trying to start something with a married man. She is just as toxic as her ex.

[@TsukiKageTora]

Story 1 the type of person the ex is is mind boggling. If my ex cheated on me I wouldn’t try to ruin another woman’s marriage by trying to cheat with her husband. That’s like “this is my pain, but I can’t handle it alone so I’m going to afflict the same pain onto this other woman for no reason but my selfish own”. Screw her and screw the husband

[@jenniferkay9789]

"MIL, can I borrow your wedding dress? I just know it would look AMAZING, on me, and I know the BEST seamstress, who can alter it, to fit me!" "If I can't wear YOUR dress, your brat can't wear MINE!" As for hubby: "You can stay with your mommy. Done! You'll hear from my lawyer, when he calls, to ask where he should send the divorce documents!"

[@MaryTheresa1986]

Story #3: NTA 1000%. Divorce the mama's boy and move on with your life. You deserve better.

[@britnicox3929]

The fact that Kelsey would inflict the same pain on someone else that she had experienced has really gotten to me. That’s really pathetic

[@taurus3alexis]

Op has a husband problem, seriously. He has no boundaries with the brothers ex, anything can happen between them 2.

[@smolltm6471]

well it did LMAOOO

[@debl3063]

Sounds like it already did

[@TsukiKageTora]

And when she tried to set some, he manipulated and guilted her into not setting any.

[@redconvoy]

Story 1: Situations like that always end in divorce. Happened to my mother because my father put my mother's first cousin first over his own family. She had had enough and divorced him after 33 years of marriage. Story 2: At 12.99 a chicken at Publix...everyone could have a half of that chicken with sides. God, your fiance is cheap!

[@jenniferhanses7064]

Story 2: YTA. Okay, here's the thing about hosting ANYTHING: The host is showing off his etiquette and means by PROPERLY PROVIDING FOR HIS GUESTS.'S NEEDS. If you think they're going to be hungry, you need to provide an appropriate amount of food for their hunger (and if it's meal time or you worked them hard, then yes, it's logical that they'll be hungry). If you can't afford to feed them, then you don't have the means to provide for guests, so don't invite them (aka cut down on the guest list). The host doesn't eat better than the guests, the host eats the same as the guests.

[@amarantheinwhite]

As soon as they said 'the sister came in moping' i was like.. oh. They planned this. And when the mother in law said, 'i have an idea, she can just wear your wedding dress!' And the sister immediately perked up, I was like, oh my god, they arent even SHY about planning this!

[@GBunnyG]

The dress story: take your beautiful yellow dress and RUN FOR THE HILLS.

[@Heydodoakskdkdjf]

Wow. If I were OP, I would tell MIL what is going on and ask her to take in her SECOND cheating son with her while I packed his shit to move out.

[@billijomaynard8924]

Story 2, so let me get this straight. Future wife wants her wedding guests to receive finger foods while OP and herself chow down on a whole roasted chicken. What the heck, are the bride and groom Anne Boleyn and Henry VIII? OP would be the AH if he agreed to this.

[@joaolima7131]

If wife protests OP should reconsider the relationship

[@ScooterBond1970]

Let them eat cake, lol.

[@agingophelia9812]

I've been to weddings that were just a cocktail reception, and they were lovely; but also the couple had what the guests had, and also didn't expect people to wait around starving for 4 hours while they drove around getting pictures. A reception with apps only needs to be a short affair. Consider your guests, or don't invite them. It's your wedding, but people are doing you a courtesy to take time out to celebrate with you.

[@cocoidiea8643]

Yeah we had finger food that arrived as we were leaving to do our pictures but we had told everyone to eat when it came and just leave us some. (We ate the leftovers for the next three days)

[@OZARKMOON1960]

#3 - OP is NTA and was right to stand up for herself and keep her dress. Now she can use it again, when she marries someone who is truly a good husband!

[@carolroberts4614]

I don't think I'd want to do that! Different hubby, different dress!

[@OZARKMOON1960]

@@carolroberts4614 Maybe she could dye it?

[@carolroberts4614]

No, it would be tainted! For me anyway.Keep it by all means, because she was happy when she wore it, but now hubby has turned out to be such an idiot,I would want to wear it again. I am superstitious about these things.

[@aniko7125]

Honestly, I would have said “okay” to the husband’s plan. Then when the trip comes, act like you’re going, leave with the kids and send them ahead with the grandparents. Then come back and see what they do. Set up a discreet camera or something and stay in a nearby hotel. When you see stuff going down, just catch them in the act. (But that’s just me being all about the drama 😂) But honestly it sounds like cheating 100%. There is no reason for her to sleep over, or hang out at your home drinking with your husband after you’ve gone to bed.The husband should not be hanging out so often with his brother’s ex. Kelsey on the other hand knows exactly what she is doing. She’s just getting an ego boost from having a married guy “risk it all” to be with her and be willing to implode his marriage, plus it’s her ex’s brother to boot. If I were OP I’d also check his TikTok, if he’s only following her (and if she follows him back) they can DM on there and even send private video. It seems weird he’d download the app only to follow her, so I’m sure they either talk or send videos on there.

[@rekslegiune6004]

When he lied his busy and cant come, that's all prof she needs. Imo they have MIN AA, if not FA.

[@bkr323]

that image of them chucking the bones to the peasants is hilarious. I"m also picturing her in regal French 1800 attire, screaming out, "Let them eat cake!!!!!"

[@jeannebuttons5301]

Case of Kelsy: Pre-update I was thinking about that story you recently read about the guy who suspected that his wife was getting too close to her coworker and how the marriage was saved because the couple moved away and removed easy access to the emotional affair. If Kelsy wasn't always accessable by OP's hubby the relationship could fizzle out. Post-update, too late...

[@catharineholton49]

I think we all saw that one coming.!! A teenage cousin of mine was in a mess so she came to stay with us for a few weeks. It started to get more and more out of hand, and inappropriate so I helped her get a flat,and we , the family, went away on holiday. Never heard from her again.

[@renatatarnawski5974]

Wedding Dress story U don't have a SIL Problem U have a Husband problem Run while u Still Can

[@sonicbird]

Story 3: OP should get rid of that wedding dress out of spite considering it will now be a constant reminder that you married into a family that tries to mistake you for a doormat. They've shown OP who they are, now she just has to believe them.

[@Reddazes]

Personal anecdote: I was with my ex for 10 years, I LOVED his family. I still miss them so much. They were wonderful people and I wish we could have kept our relationship despite my ex cheating. But honestly, breaking contact with them was such a vital part of my healing and moving on. I will always think of them fondly.

[@tonibully4090]

Story 1: I knew he was cheating, it was red flags all over the place. Don't let your ex-husband talk you into staying with him. I think this is going to make the family dislike or even hate Kelsey. She did the same thing to someone who called her family. There is no coming back from this at all. I would like to hear an update on this story. Story 2: If you can't pay for food for everyone, then have a smaller wedding or eat what the guest's eat and have more later. If she goes through with her plan, she may loss friends and everyone will be talking about her. Story 3: It was always the family plan to use OP's dress. I bet they din't even go out looking a a dress. They though that she would feel bad for and give up the dress. They can't make OP do anything and good for her, standing her ground. The husband run to his mom and stand for three days. Is he still on the bottle or the nipple, what a child.

[@LaineyBug2020]

Omg, I really hope we get an update on story 1! I wanna know how the inlaws react to how both their sons are cheaters and how they treat Kelsey now!

[@minecraftmum3436]

Ok, story 2 just reminded me of a friend's wedding reception. Both mothers had paid for a fancy reception as a wedding gift, but when we got there it was awful (not the parent's fault, they ended up with their money back and a huge apology). A full cutlery setting for everyone but only a couple of sandwiches and even the drinks didn't arrive. A lot of hungry guests rebelled and went to the nearby MacDonalds and brought back food and drinks. It was hilarious to see a fancy hotel dining room with milkshakes and burgers on the tables XD

[@akl2k7]

You know a reception is bad when people see McDonalds as a better alternative.

[@minecraftmum3436]

@@akl2k7 Exactly! XD

[@nicolasv6031]

story 1 (pre-update): I think they're both right, in a way. BIL and Kelsey broke up relatively recently, and she has been around for 10 years. it makes sense that they want to support her and still spend time with her similarly to before the breakup, as she is practically family. however, OP is also right in that, while she is practically family, there are still some boundaries that need to be erected/maintained to ensure that the family/Kelsey are able to move forwards in a healthy way, such that Kelsey is still important to them, but that she is able to have her own life/love-life as well. NAH Story 1 (post-update): OP's husband is so manipulative... using Kelsey's horrible break-up to guilt-trip OP into backing down and not putting up appropriate boundaries, so he can get a younger side-chick... also, how could he spend a *whole week* with Kelsey and *not* plan to get physical with her??? totally divorce-worthy, though it's up to OP if she wants to stay or not. just hope she realizes how manipulative her spouse is...

[@curtisalex456]

Yep, Divorce worthy!!!!! The husband is totally disgusting!!!!

[@TsukiKageTora]

@@curtisalex456 so is Kelsey. She got cheated on by a boyfriend and thinks the best way to deal with the pain is to cheat with a married man (her ex’s brother no less)… inflicting the same amount of pain, if not more since they are actually married hand have kids longer than her relationship, onto an innocent woman. Divorce him and have him take Kelsey. The slime bag selfish POSes deserve each other.

[@ChrisAndCats]

@@curtisalex456 like brother like brother I suppose.

[@GMAMEC]

I saw the writing on the wall before the update. These kind of friendships usually don’t end well. Most affairs start with “friendships” . Many start bonding because of misfortunate circumstances and/or hardships.

[@ellorasg4525]

Story 1: I smell something fishy going on. Seriously WTF! Story 2: Well they certainly gave a new meaning to the term, 'Cheapskate'! But that's just me.

[@ginathecookie]

S1: If you saw the update.. you're right it was a weeks old sitting on the pavement fish 🐟

[@southernflight5078]

NGL Story 2 felt like something that would truly end up on the show Biggest Cheapskates. 😅

[@piratemate14]

Story 1: what if Kelsey wasn’t cheated on but was the one cheating on brother in law with op’s husband I wanna see another update with more information

[@AllistorMichelle]

story 3: if i JUST married someone and their family pulled this bs and he\she didn't stop it but left for their home for three days i'd be getting a lawyer and some divorce papers. be the shortest marriage but sil can have the outfit for prom.

[@MusicGirl881]

Story 3: NTA and I don’t know where OP lives but I can guarantee there are places that sold cheap but decent prom dresses. It’s the SIL’s fault for waiting to the last minute to get a dress and the family is just cheapskates cause even if OP gave her wedding dress it would have costed more to tailor and there isn’t a guarantee the dress would still look the same. Also the husband is an AH cause instead of standing by his wife he would rather his family trash and mistreat her so he doesn’t have to deal with drama.

[@TheHellsHobbit]

#1 Ex needs to move on and understand she is not a member of the family and move on. Op hubby needs to also let go of her, and put his family first. If I was Op I would get in Kelsey face and say so you were cheated on so you think it is ok to cheat with the married brother of your ex

[@toysruskid5074]

Add "You might as well get back together. You're just as shi+ty and deserve eachother. " Then divorce your disgusting husband, OP. Can't wait til MIL finds out both her sons are cruddy.

[@musicallydisneyamvs6731]

Story 3.) If I was OP & this led to divorce, I’d purposely (fake) shred that dress, send a picture or/& video if it’s convincing enough to that family, as one last F-U!! Make them think you really did it.

[@starbird3939]

Story 1 & Update - NTA How embaressed would I be as the mother to know both of my sons cheated. And Kelsey and OP's [hopefully soontobeex] husband should know fucking better than to ruin OP's wedding by emotionally cheating with each other.

[@kitarrah1422]

Story 1: I knew where this was headed before the update. Story 2: I was cracking up at Mark's reaction! 🤣🤣🤣 And yes, definitely the a-holes if they have whole roast chickens or anything else that is way better than what they feed the guests. The fiance sounds selfish and greedy, or at least a cheapskate, to me. Story 3: OMG! The audacity! They kept inviting you over for dinner because they were trying to get you to offer your dress, OP. I'll bet that they never intended to shop for a dress at all. They wanted your dress the whole time. The teen SIL probably had been whining about wanting your dress to wear to prom ever since your wedding day.

[@MsUnamusedNerd]

STORY 3: *NTA* It does not matter that the wedding dress does not look like a wedding dress. It is still OP’s wedding dress and her 16-year-old sister-in-law is not entitled to wear it to prom where anything could happen to it. If she wants a beautiful dress I’m pretty sure there are plenty of thrift stores and even rental places where she can get a cheap/easily affordable dress for a one night event. They were talking about getting the dress tailored to fit the 16-year-old. I could possibly see it reasonable to have a dress be borrowed untampered, but having it tailored? What if Op wanted to wear the dress again for a vowel renewal ceremony for a future anniversary but she can’t fit in the dress anymore due to the modifications? Again if the 16 y/o wants a dress so badly she can find one at thrift stores or go to one of those formal clothing rental places and get a dress that she’s going to wear for like what, 4 hours max? They did manage to get her a new dress, but they were really expecting OP to help pay for it? WTF? The husband is a POS. He literally left his wife and ran home to mommy’s house for 3 days because he couldn’t get his wife to do what he wanted her to do? Red flags. The whole family turning into a cesspool because they thought entitled to that wedding dress. Prom is not that important to warrant someone being alienated and talked badly about 🤦🏻‍♀️ let alone for 16 y/o to burst into tears like a six-year-old that was denied a cookie before dinner. It’s just a stupid dance. If you’ve been to one school dance you’ve practically been to every single one of them. They’re all the same. I love the edit how the claims of OP not wanting to “share“ her dress because “you’re just jealous because the 16 year will look so much better than you in it and you’re not gonna have it out of spite“ No I’m pretty sure alienating someone out of the family because they didn’t bend to your will is spite :)

[@lienemeid]

I had a dream about you last night! I was really surprised you were 84 years old and looked like Danny DeVito, not going to lie 😂 it was a waffle festival, absolutely loved it!

[@MarkNarrations]

That sounds amazing! The Waffle festival! Thinking maybe I should get this commissioned now....hmmm haha

[@DWPersianExcursion]

Artisanal Waffle house

[@lienemeid]

@@MarkNarrations I wholeheartedly agree! 🥰

[@lienemeid]

@@DWPersianExcursion yes please 😍

[@DWPersianExcursion]

@@lienemeid I'm a sucker for pretty pastries...and capitalism to boot! Get a merchandise scheme going, I'll get birthday 🎂 cake flavored ones. Yum, and yes I have the munchies 👁️👄👁️

[@kbf9644]

The entertainment at your wedding should not be torturing your guests, the people you supposedly care so much about that you invited them to your important event and to celebrate with you. OP really needs to understand exactly how self-absorbed his future wife is. Yikes.

[@katraylor]

Story 2: What is with people trying to cheap out on feeding their wedding guests? It's the opposite of hospitality. You invite them, you take care of them.

[@umustbkrayze]

Story 1- All the boundaries were crossed, they were always alone at her place in OPs family home even while she put the kids to bed and she went to bed herself. I believe 99.99% they were physical and OP knows it too, she implied as much. Id let the whole family know and get tested for STI/STD. Take him for everything and sue kelsey too. The comment section in the post was out of line before and after knowing they were having an affair, It was like Team Kelsey vs Team OP. I was starting to wonder if Kelsey and the husband was in the comment section against OP.

[@brandyb2931]

My husband would never have told me to give a relative my wedding dress. He would then not turn around and go to his mommy's house for 3 days and then demand along with his family that I need to pay for his relatives' dress or sell it for them. He would know that money would be coming out of OUR bank account, so he wouldn't entertain such a ridiculous idea.

[@Me-wk3ix]

This is as bad as the tiered weddings I've heard about, where guests are relegated to a tier and the amount or quality of food you get is based on that. Find other ways to save money. If what your guests are having is not enough for you, it's not enough for them either.

[@Original_Tenshi_Chan]

Lol, I went to a tiered wedding a long time ago and it was awkward as hell. The bride and groom had full steak dinners, the wedding party had a chicken and pasta dish and the rest of us plebs were served packaged pasta with jar sauce that I guess one of the Mils put together HOURS before the wedding, so it was gloopy and gross.

[@joaolima7131]

There is nothing worse than a bad and cheap host

[@Mkable01]

She’s travelling an hour and a half to see hubby while wife isn’t home…wake up

[@clairebear-96]

Story 2, I’m picturing like a medieval feast with the peasants eating scraps and the king and queen at a huge table, munching away on a huge roast chicken 😂😂 Edit LMFAOOOO Mark your mental image was almost identical to mine 😂😭

[@louellacharlton4425]

Wow just wow , cheating runs in that family! Wonder if this was learned from the father? Tyvm Mark. Stay safe please peace

[@Ars-Nova258]

Story1: A cheating victim stealing someone’s partner isn’t too surprising. Being cheated on tends to make someone feel less desirable and for some being desired by a married or taken person sates and inflates their ego. You’d just have to be a monster to do that. I’m not justifying it as cheaters are scum nor am I insinuating that all cheating victims will ruin relationships; I’m just not surprised that some victims can be so callous as to inflict the same pain for fleeting reasons.

[@groofromtheup5719]

sounds like something a borderline narcissist would do. It proves a complete absence of empathy.

[@shylavender]

I was serially cheated on in two of my past relationships, and I would never cheat on someone else… NOBODY I know who has been cheated on has done this, no matter how worthless and undesirable we were made to feel?

[@Ars-Nova258]

@@shylavender My apologies for making you feel like I insinuated that all cheating victims will cheat. I just meant that victims with weak wills doing so isn’t shocking. I will edit my post soon to reflect this.

[@Mewse1203]

Be kind, be safe and take care of yourself. Have a great day

[@ajillofmanytrades8638]

I love your stories and when you Waffle Along. Thank you for time stamps and stories with updates. I hope you are doing well.

[@ToniWilson-hv9oo]

Love looking at everyone's fur babies while listening to the story 😍 nice 1 Mark 😀

[@thefirstaquarius]

Story 2 made me laugh- as a vegan, I usually have to make do with fruit and veggie trays. It sucks to be at an event all day and only eat appetizers. They need to feed their guests or eat before, like their guests will have to ( and hopefully the guests will have the heads up to eat before the ceremony).

[@ebagentj]

Story 2: I was not in attendance at this wedding, but my grandmother said this is what happened at my cousin's wedding. I don't think it was roast chicken, exactly, but my cousin (the bride) got veggie platters and had her mother and another aunt make a bunch of little finger sandwiches, while she and he husband were eating full meals. Even worse: I think the mother of the groom cooked those meals for them and then went and ate veggies and sandwiches with everyone else while they scarfed down on filet Mignon or whatever they had (again, I don't know exactly what it was, just my grandmother said it was a nice, fancy meal). They're divorced now and she's currently with another guy and pregnant with his baby. Apparently her baby shower wasn't much classier. I kind of want to attend her second wedding if she has one for the pure spectacle.

[@EphemeraImaging]

Wow, the first story - how could anyone be that clueless? If he hasn't already cheated, he most definitely was planning to.

[@kittenswithbows]

Start video, see the little budgie out of the corner of my eye - 🥳 pet tax Tuesday!!

[@kerribottriell-baxter7345]

I can sense a possible update to the first story. OP is NTA! I get being friendly to someone who has been practically family for so long, BUT! There are limits and boundaries. Husband and Kelsey are crossing those and I wouldn't be surprised if another divorce does happen.

[@axepagode33626]

My favorite meal I had at a wedding was a full breakfast bar with chefs making waffles and omelets. As opposed to wedding cake, they had Krispy Kreme donuts in a display. They had bacon, ham, turkey sausage, breakfast potatoes, roasted tomatoes, biscuits, gravy, and even grits. I was shocked about the grits, because the couple were northern transplants to the south.

[@mariem8705]

S1- ultimately I’m siding with my family. Went through the same thing with one of my brothers gf of 5 years, but she also didn’t want to stick around and eventually we stopped communication. Also think husband being shady, he only follows her on tik tok?

[@corlenajames1381]

Dress story: OP, just give the dress to your SIL, along with a fresh set of divorce papers for your mama's boy husband, smh. Cut your losses before getting in any deeper.

[@mb8787]

No, no, keep the dress, but Do give those divorce papers...(!)

[@ukchanak]

I just love when you say "whilst"

[@oliviaksiag6163]

If it was just about the relationship with the family, I would have said that OP was being jealous and petty, but something just felt weird about what was going on. That update is horrible, she went through getting cheated on but still became a homewrecker? And messing with her ex's brother? This woman is nuts, I hope OP properly distances herself from this family.

[@clairebear-96]

Ughhhh who does that, cheats on their wife with their little brother’s ex? That he’s known for 10 years and is allegedly like a little sister? Disgusting, what a creep, that feels so predatory

[@Iflie]

In my family we just adopted the ex, it was only in my teens I think that I learned that my mom's bes friend who raised me (with my mom) and was invited to all the family gatherings actually used to date my uncle for a while. When they split my mom just kept her and my grandmother and everyone also agreed. She just jokingly used to say they fed her and she just kept coming back. I did not know any different than that she used to be there every day and coming with us on vacations. We called her name and "mom" as one name if we needed help because either would be fine. Family isn't just who you are related too. it's sad this one turned out to be a cheating husband, not a family relationship at all.

[@theimprovedmama3288]

Story 1: Last time a guy told me he felt like a woman was his little sister the moment I broke up with him, he slept with her. Even thou she had a boyfriend. Never trust a guy who says things like this.

[@bettyblue3164]

Husband in first story is a cheater. I knew it after just part of the initial post.

[@ricaivory6571]

1st story, I would've told his family what he was doing. So you going Stay behind, TO CHEAT, and then act like you wasn't thinking it. He would be gone, and his family would know just to embarrass both they ass.

[@PurpleHeartsOnFire]

I love the pictures of pets while you talk! It’s like extra sweet! 🥰

[@janglesthearsonist5265]

Story 2: YTA This sounds like the dream wedding for some couple from Southern Florida.

[@BlueRoseAFK]

Really hope to get an update on the 1st and last stories

[@patredding]

The story of the sis in law that wanted her dress for her prom. Protect your dress, spouse may come home to her dress destroyed or stolen. Time to get a divorce lawyer, he will never act like an adult if he runs to his MUMMY for disagreeing with his family.

[@WobblesandBean]

OP 1: He's cheating on you. Edit: Called it. An age gap relationship, no less. Ick. Don't worry, it'll end when he inevitably cheats on her with the next impressionable young girl, or when her brain finally catches up to her body and realizes how screwed up her relationship with him is.

[@robertx8020]

Story 3 : NTA and I fear you're single soon! Btw it's clear that they scammed you! She couldn't find a dress for months? Then when OP refused they had one in days? Yeah right! And why should OP pay? NO reason whatsoever! And not being invited anymore? I see that as a win! Btw they will not be invited to your next wedding either 😂(and you will already have a great dress)

[@Swnsasy]

ROFLOL Omgosh I can't breathe 🤣 Is the fiancé high? She has to be high! I'm over here like Mary Antoinette, "Let them eat nuggets! 🤣🤣

[@OZARKMOON1960]

#2 - They would be TAs if they did this, but then again I have visions of the guests starting to order Door Dash or Grub Hub meals to be delivered to the venue the moment the bride and groom get served their roast chicken feast. And taking back their gifts after eating. Either follow the implied social niceties (bring a gift, attend the reception, get fed) or just tell everyone it is only appetizers and cake for all -- and for god's sake just eat between ceremony and reception, or after!

[@michellej3140]

The wedding chicken meal made me laugh. I also had a vision of them sat at the top table tearing off chicken legs, feasting like Henry the eighth.

[@catpool94poolcat24]

Hello Mark!! I'm big fan of your videos!!

[@MarkNarrations]

Aww thank you so much catpool, means the world!

[@kimmieevans3598]

Kelsey is moving in on hubby and hubby is playing Captain save a whoe

[@GabrielleHayes1921]

Mark: "but then OP updates the story which goes" Commerical immediately starts for TikTok of girl dancing and decorating a cake. Me: "I think Mark would 100% support this commercial because we all loveeeee cake"

[@D-D-Gaming]

If you're set on saving money during your wedding, cutting out the food is not where you need to save. Decorations can be done DIY, Photographers have different budgets, venue location etc.

[@sharyebethancourt3660]

11:54 Nick the cat was around for school pictures or Glamour Shots. Look at that pose! 😂🤣

[@ixxieangel]

Wedding story: Do not be offended when your guests riot and order Door Dash to your wedding reception. If you don't care about your reputations with your friends, family, and coworkers then knock yourself out and only have a main meal for you and your bride, but after the wedding don't complain ONE WORD when you are ostracized from your families and all of your social circles! Meals for all or hors d'oeuvres for all... choose wisely!

[@kakonoteouji4876]

What is the husband a supposably HVM that she feels can't leave him and do putting up with his BS, that sucks well she knew her husband can't really feel to bad for her.

[@theonlybomber]

With story 2 I pictured the same thing as Mark literally down to the same detail he stated.

[@sharyebethancourt3660]

In story 1, I think of a story where the ex was at a holiday dinner and there was no room for OP, and I think _this_ is how weird crap like that happens.

[@mariezvackova2643]

Story 3 has another edit: Final Edit ; My MIL saw the mirror article that was made about this post after another family member sent it to her. My husband and I fought because of me "publicly shaming" his family. I told him I'm wanting to separate. Please do not message me regarding my separation. This has become a private matter. Thank you for helping me see how terrible they are being.

[@Alissandre_Iskander]

Story 1: I'm just left to wonder what the home environment was like for OP's husband and brother, for both of them to turn out to be scumbag cheaters.

[@kmaguire7161]

I mean I think we all saw that update of story one coming. The way Kelsey decided to move in on someone else's spouse after she herself had been cheated on I wouldn't blame OP if she beat her ass.