Huw Edwards Avoids Jail For Accessing Indecent Images Of Children |

[@comanchio1976]

I didn't go to Oxford either and battled with mental health issues for most of my life...not once have these factors, or any other, has motivated me to seek out revolting abuse images of children. Totally bizarre that these are somehow considered to be mitigating factors.

[@kewanali2054]

Hope you get the help guidance you need. Its a sad state and unfortunately, this could set a precedent for future paedo's using the mental health as defence factor.

[@comanchio1976]

@@kewanali2054 Thanks. I'm trying to manage it the best I can and it's a constant struggle. But I only mentioned it to highlight the absurdity of it being brought up as mitigation. Depression, as I've experienced it, depletes your sex drive if anything. And if one does have these deviant urges, then one's empathy would have to be diminished to be motivated to act on them. This doesn't ring true for depression, either...as often the reverse is true. So it's a total nonsense, and actually really insulting to people with mental health issues, to suggest that one thing might lead to the other, or that it'd be somehow more likely because of a mental health problem.

[@ABUoSUFYAN]

It is bizarre yes, and the judges know its bizarre, if most our politicians openly receive gifts from donors and so easily do high ranking judges

[@sueparnell3818]

Agreed

[@christinedavis5813]

That made me Laugh That they thought It was Mitigating Factors as well that judge is having a laugh

[@samaantree]

This is absolutely disgusting- then they wonder why young victims grow up completely broken and disoriented 🤬

[@trayseebee2302]

And.. never report what happened to them, when THIS is the outcome.

[@TheIrland09]

Having a "mental health crisis" is not an excuse for being a pdf.

[@kennethmarshall306]

@@TheIrland09 That aspect of the plea in mitigation doesn’t make sense. In effect he is saying that because he had a mental health crisis he decided to look at sexual images of children. I don’t see the connection

[@krob2327]

Novara thinks it is

[@gamerknown]

@@krob2327where do they argue that?

[@theobservationsreal3291]

Back in the day they'd become Lord Varys if they tried that filth, light sentencing = no deterance = more of the same, the independent pdf hunters do more to stop it than the govt.

[@BeitAlWafra]

It is if you're rich, white & male

[@Greenpoloboy3]

Meanwhile, you will be jailed for non payment of the Licence fee.

[@xwhateverx666]

Of course. Money is more important.

[@sylviaroberts8297]

So ironic

[@jeremysmith54565]

Has anyone actually gone to prison for that though? On correction you don't actually go to prison for not paying for a TV licence, but what you can go to prison for is not paying for the court fine and to add further yes there have been people imprisoned for exactly that, not paying them is quite a number as well. I know what you're saying, its just technical details, still isn't great (appalling actually) no matter which way you look at it.

[@matt69nice]

Not really sure that's true unless you're trying to get in as much trouble deliberately

[@petefl1818]

But then you get 5 years for peacefully protesting and 28 months for rioting violently, makes no sense does it.

[@matthewcoombs3282]

2 years for blocking the road for climate protesters. I am not a fan of Extinction Rebellion but compared to Edwards sentence........guess it helps having friends in high places.

[@bumfie]

Extinction Rebellion.. They not get various incarceration 2-3 years and 4 - 5 years actually

[@happydays4302]

When they read out average sentences for these crimes they were all shockingly low. Its not just him that isn't serving a suitable sentence for this abhorrent behaviour and abuse of children.

[@zeeone4492]

Do you think justice is equal

[@happydays4302]

@@zeeone4492 the question isn't "is justice equal?" but "should it be equal?"

[@Draggonny]

Guess it "helps" that our justice system doesn't take child abuse seriously more like.

[@brockit79]

Disgusting. Man in position of power ought to get more. Wonder why such despicable crimes bear such low sentencing guidelines.

[@kk-xj5oz]

Rules for thee not for me

[@linmorell1813]

This sentence is a travesty., what a joke. We haven’t moved on in caring about victims.

[@jolorna3654]

He should have been locked up. The children in the pictures live locked inside a vile reality for those foul perverts.

[@sandrolaurella2417]

We have a disgusting attitude regarding the safety of children in this country and we show that constantly. We should be very hardline with anything to do with crimes against children. This pondlife should have got 5 years no question.

[@zeddeka]

They don't jail first time offenders where they have possession of material, but there's been no direct contact offence with a child, for the simple reason that they go into jail, network with other much worse offenders, and come out significantly worse. Rehabilitation in cases like Huw Edwards' gets significantly better results if they are treated and monitored out of jail. The fact they have a suspended sentence also means they can be taken into jail immediately if they offend again. Are we actually interested in doing our best to stop the problem getting worse or are we just after revenge?

[@sandrolaurella2417]

@zeddeka So it's only about revenge is it ? How short sighted you are. Going by your logic we shouldn't jail anyone. A suspended sentence is the same as doing nothing because all he has to do is keep himself clean for a very short period. These people should be jailed and monitored when they come out. Liberalism doesn't work. This sends a very bad message to all those doing the same.

[@somerandomblokeybloke6033]

2:00 mitigating factors include: Money, Contacts.

[@krob2327]

Freemasonry

[@charmainepriestman915]

💯

[@georgek3398]

So i blame my father for psychological damage that made me steal and kill , so no jail time please

[@kennethmarshall306]

The sad irony is that if Corbyn had followed his own instincts on Brexit labour would not have supported a second referendum. However, he was under massive pressure to agree to a second referendum.

[@brockit79]

he was done up like a kipper.

[@Sam.o.29]

So he was weak, indicative of his leadership style...

[@Noel-ji8nm]

​@@Sam.o.29Not as weak as Starmer.

[@ThomasMiddlehurs1984]

​@Sam.o.29 John McDonnell explained that 30 MPs were threatening of quitting Remember, both were in the party when the SDP was formed. A handful of MPs had already left and started Change. Losing those MPs would have taken Labour's numerial advantage away.

[@ColDaxx-ki3ul]

@@Sam.o.29 No British politician has ever faced the opposition from various powerful institutions that Corbyn faced. The whole corporate media, the hierarchy within his party, the Israel lobby. He did quite well under the circumstances.

[@keithchalmers7558]

No way am I accepting failure in life as a mitigation against a charge of accessing CP. There are no mitigating factors. He didn't get caught sleeping with a prostitute....he was caught accessing images of the abuse of children...he has no right to any sympathy...end of!

[@fairdose]

What the hell is going on with the BBC? First it was Jimmy Saville and now Huw Edwards?

[@Dogfacedbloke]

You've missed out about 30.

[@thomascroft5076]

Rolf Harris . . . Stuart Hall . . .

[@malungtvnews]

What has always been going on with the ruling class

[@JustAUsername-i5l]

Not everything about Savile has come out and there's another hugely high profile BBC celebrity that was caught with pictures on a computer that's been covered up for decades, the extent of his crimes probably won't come out until long after he's gone. I was told these things by a BBC runner back in the late 90s as the rumours were so widespread within the organisation that they weren't even a secret and if the low level runners knew..everybody knew, they're now a senior producer there. I gave the names and incidents to the yewtree investigation team and could tell the lady I spoke to was completely unsurprised by what I said, but it predictably went nowhere.

[@ColDaxx-ki3ul]

There's no connection between Saville and Edwards.

[@apflewis]

"Former BBC news reader Huw Edwards has been sentenced for accessing indecent images of children as young as seven, Edwards pled guilty to three charges of making indecent images of children ..." Wait, wait wait? He either accessed images, or he made indecent images of children. Big difference, I'd have thought. No? And now, being from South Wales is a mitigating circumstance ..🤣🤣

[@Grimmtombobulus]

As far as I'm aware, the offence of "making" indecent images includes downloading images and storing them on a computer. I believe the act of storing them as a file on a computer is considered "making" the image.

[@idio-syncrasy]

True ​@@Grimmtombobulus

[@roseannemain9957]

Anyone purchasing indecent images of children is complicit in their making. They provide the market. Therefore, images are made. Just like anything else you can buy. Sellers offer it if no one takes it up they stop making it. They offer it if people buy they make more. When he was approached by known paedo offering images why did he not just pick up the phone to the police. No one compelled him to buy them.

[@kevinwilde]

Edward's unsavoury individual to look at only sorry because he's been exposed simple as doesn't need dressing up guilty of vulgar tasteless dispicable crimes.

[@judithmatthews8460]

He didn’t threaten corporate profits

[@getthepicture1000]

The BBC started talking about his 'mental health' ffs, and that he had been ' struggling'.

[@КГБКолДжорджКостанца]

You have to be kidding me....they're letting this monster out? What is wrong with UK laws

[@mrsillywalk]

The Masonic Order.

[@jeremysmith54565]

Not be offensive but f**k knows to be perfectly honest, one thing I wouldn't personally call it two tier policing though, but doesnt certainly mean (within maybe areas of law absolutely I'd say) not the whole justice system.

[@JasonAtlas]

Its a money game.

[@JustAUsername-i5l]

Its got nothing to do with the police, they did their job..arrested him, gathered the evidence, charged him and passed the case onto the CPS like they're supposed to.

[@poplife123]

Now that's the real 2 tier justice system ..... disgraceful

[@happydays4302]

"Upstream as it were" Kier Starmer's (allegedly a human rights lawyer) new euphemism for paying someone else to abuse people. This man is so despicable.

[@JasonAtlas]

I've had mental health issues. I don't want what he's done associated with the struggle people go through. Maybe he does struggle, no reason to do what he did though. It's disgusting.

[@Draggonny]

Unless his "mental health struggles" were delusions that they were consenting adults he hasn't got a leg to stand on.

[@kennethmarshall306]

What happened to labour under Corbyn shows you what media bias really means.

[@mairefox4794]

😂low friends in high places disgusting when are we going to defend these kids what about the kids mental health look into the history of the judge is this how this man thinks about child abuse

[@sydsaturn3337]

Edwards being more than a typical citizen and more of a British institution was always going to get off lightly...The establishment always looks after its own

[@LdnLady]

Brit injustice system just loves a pdo, disgusting imho

[@stananders474]

Get his job discription right. He is a news presenter >> NOT journalist. I must say your research info is far far better than any of the many podcasts today.

[@noonecares6816]

He can be both a journalist and a presenter or at least was a journalist

[@ibukungfucuisine]

The prosecution say that it has only had a glimpse of communications. They were not able to access everything. Should there not be concern about this.

[@sambaxrock]

Cronyn is the leader we need for these downright depressing times.

[@randybackgammon890]

I love Jezza and his agenda....but the bigger one just won't allow it to work.They'll make sure of that which is why you gotta start the rev. softly softly.Hope that's what Starmers is doing....won't hold my breath

[@heg1098]

Busy day and not a single mention of Palestine

[@MegaKapo12]

Man should be under the jail

[@charmainepriestman915]

Edward's looked smug when exiting the courts and there is no real incentive for him not to reoffend This sentence is a disgrace

[@TabsT-vy5jy]

youre surprised? schofield not only didnt go jail, he kept his job

[@joansudoku8283]

Thanks!

[@crossygirl185]

You don't "FIND YOURSELF " in this situation..you put yourself in there 🤬🤬

[@SlimesmoreUK]

Hes obviously writing those to avoid any evidence of him saying yes. He knew what would implicate him further and its obvious he was sick enjoying them as the freak continued to pay the other freak.

[@555555345]

I feel sorry for all the family's involved

[@leewest3739]

And here comes the verdict delivered by the Rt Hon Judge Nonce

[@CarmelaOzzi]

Super funny Michael, that really made me laugh😂 ( the comments about, he's doing it for us 🤣 ) that really was . And Ash you were fantastic bang on with the rest of the mainstream media ,you really shined .

[@ConstantlyLearning777]

Cancel your tv licences and stop funding the bbc

[@Arya-cf7vu]

Superb episode both thanku so much!❤❤❤

[@carmenboddis3927]

Poor poor children 😓🙏

[@carmenboddis3927]

PAEDOFILIA can't be REHABILITATED

[@MaRi-Br1984]

Type of punishment that if were given to a regular person doing the exact same thing the world would end, because it would be an absurd… but because he’s famous and has money that means he’s above it all, and it was just a small error of judgment, so basically no punishment.

[@nigelgroves-or1yj]

HE HAS CASH, THIS IS WHY.. SIMPLES

[@calumroche2851]

Petty, I know, but 11:55 - "x,y,zee..." it's 'zed' man!

[@stananders474]

Let's get real. The elephant in the room is the Free Mason elephant stomping around. Three male magistrates >> I bet were men.

[@limeyjoe1632]

Considering the state of our jails, and the chances of him being rehabilitated in jail is pretty much nil, I can understand the suspended sentence. Sometimes other options to jail might be more appropriate and more productive.

[@scottessery100]

Well… people aren’t going to be happy with the sentence for huw

[@miloandalfie5509]

What sort of xray specs were the security service personnel wearing, to spot the barrel of a rifle "poking through a fence" at 4-5 hundred yards away?!

[@KrisRogos]

Not getting into Oxford is a strange excuse; given that very few people go there, it seems like one a lot more of us could use if we ever did something illegal.

[@donrayjay]

The whole business of Cobyn’s vilification by the UK establishment is tragic for the missed opportunity we had for a proper left of centre government. Jeremy Corbyn would have made an excellent senior cabinet minister in a John McDonnell led government. It could have happened if McDonnell had been the candidate, such a shame to think of what might have been

[@traviscutler9912]

Jesus i had to skip the beginning. Ugh

[@rmurphy911]

Good to see Ash Sarkar at least partially own up to her failings during the Corbyn years, particularly the pro-EU second referendum idiocy. But she left out her culpability in giving credence to the idea of 'antisemitism' on the left. Strategically (and morally) it would have been a good idea to stress that criticism of Israel/Zionism is not antisemitism and to attack the accusers for undermining British politics by being agents of a foreign state (Israel) and Zionism.

[@ince55ant]

i think this undersells the insidiousness of the abuse of antisemitism against Corbyn. Antisemitism is culturally embedded in basically all of europe, of course it must be present in the labour party, how could it not. This is the tactical use of the media labeling corbyn antisemitic, since to be progressive you cannot deny its existence, to do otherwise is to perform erasure. Our enemies on the center to right don't care that their spurious claims actually help real antisemites promote their message ("they control the media", "antisemitism isnt bad"), but that doesn't absolve us from acting on our principles

[@andellensweeney2488]

What about the mental anguish of the victims, their lifetime of trauma. All the resources gone into this man and his ilk, disgusting. Change the law to actually reflect the harm caused to people.

[@gamerlest509]

According to stats 8/10 people prosecuted with these offences escape a prison sentence. The whole justice system needs looking at urgently. It has always vakued property and money over life

[@catawaller740]

Prison is full of people whose childhood is even more difficult and traumatic. It’s frankly weird that the judge gave such lenience and it makes one , quite frankly, wonder.

[@michaelbashford2733]

Great. Let's add more stigma to people with mental health issues.

[@AliceBrisleden-Waters]

I sleep peacfully in Tottenham knowing I did not vote for David Lammy.

[@danielcraig4974]

I'm getting the word...

[@matthewbanks187]

What remorse? He didn't have any remorse he knew what he was doing is wrong.

[@Padraigp]

Making prawn with a 7 year old? Making it? Making? What do you mean Making it??? Jesus.

[@BobSholtis]

Not surprising when he spends 7 days a week threatening people.

[@nathanaelsmith3553]

There is a good critical breakdown of Edwards' sentencing decision on the Art of Law channel

[@mrsillywalk]

Avoid jail by having the dirt on the Royals. That's what Jimmy did.

[@El_likes_to_stim]

Oh damn, really? 👀

[@mairefox4794]

​@@El_likes_to_stimI didn't know that

[@arbitScaleModels]

Is there any evidence these types can be cured? No.

[@Melanie_T2023]

I honestly don’t think they can. Reoffending is rife.

[@xwhateverx666]

You can't "cure" it. Any attempt is basically conversion therapy, which we know does not work. Unfortunately, you either trust them not to do it again or lock them up to protect society.

[@muireann9763]

Re-hab therapy isn't a full proof method of 'curing' offenders, but will have 'some' impact on those in becoming more aware of their behaviour hence preventing further abuses

[@gamerknown]

@@muireann9763 I went to sexual abuse training as part of safeguarding in my job, the trainer was extremely sceptical, he said he worked with dozens of them and said the intelligent ones just use the training to appear contrite and garner intel on good methods to reoffend. The bulk of them had at least moderate learning impediments

[@GeoffV-k1h]

The idea that the fact HE missed out on Oxford should be considered a mitigating factor is truly bizarre.

[@einstein6239]

Let's be honest, no one is shocked by him only recieving a suspended sentence

[@itsmememene8953]

Huw Ed’s dad must be rolling in his grave. Bizarre that he would go this route as a defence. Which makes it what are the real reasons if any will ever be disclosed.

[@krob2327]

Pam? Are you welsh? Did you know him? Pam is why in welsh. His dad was a politician elite, Huw wasn’t some working class lad form Bridgend

[@jasonmitchell5219]

Juggling moral and strategic reasoning at the same time, particularly at a young age, isn't easy. Tbh, it never gets easier and can create significant psychological discomfort.

[@petermullins6914]

Jail jail jail

[@robovac3557]

Yeah, that sounds great to say but the simple fact is that the prison system simply could not cope if every nonce offence on this level meant a jail sentence.

[@yasminkausar5186]

I will never understand how he evaded justice🧐🧐🧐

[@denysnuttall1706]

Two tier policing,2 tier freedom of speech,,2 tier taxation ,2 tier justice, if you aint rich ir pretty you dont go home!

[@RegionalVariation]

Michael, usually excellent, unusually and inappropriately gigglesome tonight.

[@kennethmarshall306]

@@RegionalVariation He seems to have acquired the annoying habit of laughing too much

[@brianlopez8855]

We need to consider Ken McDonald, former DPP next.

[@Itsnotcomplicatedreally]

That judge and Edwards are in the same what'sapp group

[@kxjx]

That's the point isn't it, they don't care about migration as such. They care about getting elected, and maintaining their own positions. So they need the optics of stopping migration but the economics of both cheap labour and skilled migration (the UK's biggest source of gdp growth).

[@BanjoPixelSnack]

"Indecent images of children" obscures the horror of what it actually is which is *actively funding the r4pe of children*. 😔😡 And it's deemed less of an offence than expressing contentious views on social media.

[@patcampton7163]

He only ever wanted the glory of being PM, it's been obvious to me for sometime. Great program, Michael and Ash.

[@DavidGirling]

Whatever you think of SM, he printed some sticky labels, which the judge agreed were NOT illegal, and got 2 years for sticking them to lamp-posts, but someone watching kiddie pawn (deliberately mis-spelled because of YT) is spared going to jail?????? Am I the only one wondering how many kiddy fiddlers there are in the authorities? Remember 2TK didn't prosecute Jim S or the grooming gangs.

[@evif9377]

Wait, who's SM? Otherwise 💯 agree with you

[@DavidGirling]

@@evif9377 Someone YT doesn't like mentioned so we have to not write the actual words: Sa mM el ia take out the three spaces and put one between the m and M.

[@davidestabrook5367]

I saw a couple racist stickers posted at bus stops. One was in Luton, and the other was a "14 words" sticker in Aylesbury. That one I used my keys to scratch off the paper. It's really horrible seeing them, especially if minorities view it, it would make them feel unsafe, and fearful of the people around them. If you see a racist sticker, please do scratch it off and remove it.

[@raycorrigan3297]

@@DavidGirlingwhat u on 😅😅

[@thomascroft5076]

The greatest fear of the Blairite/Starmerite Right, is that in the event of a mildly Socialist government ever being elected, the public - most of whom have ever known anything other than neo-liberalism (in one form or another since 1979) - might actually realise that there are much better ways of running a country for the public good.

[@RecycledBikes-jj]

A lot of people are VERY vindictive...

[@Padraigp]

Why cabt they hire processors? Did they not think if they take lots of people in they would need processors. Do they forget when they hire immigrant nurses that they will need somewhere for them to go to get a visa? Wtf is wrong with these people. You have immigrants you need processing employees? And to give them jobs. So they're not hated by everyone.

[@Stoic2000]

He had been arrested previously for sexual offences.

[@kennethsimmons2029]

As a recipient of a post office issued vexatious litigation order I want my free half hour with Human Rights Lawyer after 4 legal aid refusals and CWU exclusion with attirney general complicity of 2003 and CWU solicitor advicating for post office and requesting custodial for non occuring crime. Mandy Talbots Lee Castleton weaponised bankrupcy costin 320k......Is Starmer conflicted from 2002 or can his legal expertise be expedited on post office attorney general dispersal of personal data to a Co Op solicitor ?

[@bernieburrows3731]

How exactly do they monitor what he looks at online, for the next two years?

[@samuel56551]

First Saville , now Edwards . Not looking good for the BBC , is it ?

[@michaelbadu8388]

Yeah done with these

[@alistairmurray626]

not going to oxford, oh dear

[@t_b_c]

I think the discussion around Starmers freebies is missing something. If I was paying for access to parliament, would I want to meet my stooge in a private office in secret, or somewhere with a news clipping I can refer to if they decide not to accept my policy recommendations? This story, with a bit of work, could potentially shed insight into the mechanisms of power.

[@mohammedikram2593]

They keep missing

[@darshanathapa99]

Double standards with sentencing.

[@notsure855]

Very disappointing that Novato didn’t comment on the difference in sentencing between Twitter users (riots) and Edward’s.

[@matt69nice]

Why would that be relevant

[@notsure855]

@@matt69nice it seems baffling how a justice system sees Twitter posts more jail worthy than pedophilia

[@notsure855]

@@matt69nice people with offensive tweets get jail time, but pedophiles don’t. Seems worrying in some way. Free Speech vs Free Perversion, Smh

[@notsure855]

@@matt69nice given the fact that people have been jailed over offensive tweets, you would think child porn offences would warrant the same

[@CHIEF_420]

"Black Myth: Wukong" es "GOTY" en 2024 🏆

[@MyKharli]

Its like he wanted to get caught .

[@Jessicacaca00]

Funny because i distinctly remember Novarra media and Owen Jones channels defending Huw Edwards when he was first suspended as a non story, and suggesting those that were critising him as homophobic. Shame you cannot be honest and admit you were wrong novarra media

[@ABUoSUFYAN]

Keir Starmer: "preventing people leaving their country is better" whilst supporting the ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians

[@pcliff9473]

To get basically zero jail time for being a convicted pedo is just wrong. The rules seem too lenient.

[@JimmyOibruv-dv8jc]

🙈”What’s he got in return for it? Just show me.”🙈

[@amberrichards8078]

Did Starmer do anything illegel? Other than forgetting to declare his wife’s clothes. I think that all MPs should not accept gifts. Also that it shouldn’t be allowed donors giving money. Money for membership to parties only. The wealthy donors have too much power over politics, meaning that the rich have doubled their wealth, whilst the rest of us gave gotten considerably poorer.

[@ahussain1235]

System is in process of normalisation of this vile crime