Semi-Hermetic Compressor Failure Grocery Freezer Is Warm

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HVACR Survival

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Күн бұрын

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@adamdnewman
@adamdnewman Жыл бұрын
Got to love it when the customer was we kept resetting to safety, there is a reason the safety is shutting it down 😂
@tobias_mx
@tobias_mx Жыл бұрын
if u do get to replace it please open the old one up on video and show the inside and all the damage in there
@davidsanders6957
@davidsanders6957 6 ай бұрын
Gen, compressors are sent back in for re-man. Distributer won't accept if compressors are all taken apart. 😮😮
@patriknilsson2175
@patriknilsson2175 Жыл бұрын
Now that's one toasted semi-hermetic compressor!
@Boraxo
@Boraxo Жыл бұрын
Get some grape jelly, cause that sucker's toast.
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Жыл бұрын
😂😅😂
@805HVACR
@805HVACR Жыл бұрын
Great video Rick. I’ve had my fair share of exhausted equipment. My favorite part was when you said employee/management reset the Sentronic oil safety. They did that damage lol.
@adamdnewman
@adamdnewman Жыл бұрын
You mean the safety is actually doing is job lol 😂 and the customer is o it tripped I will just reset it. 🤪
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Жыл бұрын
They might have, a few times usually means a week or three. 🤣
@FerralVideo
@FerralVideo Жыл бұрын
Wow, I've seen plenty of car engines with Piston Nuggets thanks to another KZbinr, but this is the first time I've seen a compressor with them!
@macsignals
@macsignals Жыл бұрын
I immediately thought of IDoCars soon as Rick started laughing at the inside of the crankcase here
@leeroberts1192
@leeroberts1192 Жыл бұрын
@@macsignals I was thinking IDoCars as soon as I saw the forbidden glitter in the oil
@semidvdcdt8433
@semidvdcdt8433 Жыл бұрын
Quick tip working on semi herm. Compressor. Try pumping it down first. You'ld have skipped the oil mess and time first knowing it wasn't working as intended :) But you were lucky on seeing yhe connecting rod a d piston at the bottom anyway haha ! Nice one 😊
@patricktonash8196
@patricktonash8196 Жыл бұрын
Something I cut my teeth on. Used to help strip and rebuild semis as an apprentice including taking them to be rewound. Great way of learning the refrigeration system
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Жыл бұрын
Your absolutely right 👍👍
@SnipCola28
@SnipCola28 Жыл бұрын
Would love to see an teardown and analysis of that thing 😂
@EverythingHVACR
@EverythingHVACR Жыл бұрын
Great job Rick! That's gonna be a fun replacement.
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Жыл бұрын
Hopefully we get the job because I left my Refrigeration wrench on the discharge line.
@EverythingHVACR
@EverythingHVACR Жыл бұрын
@@HVACRSurvival 😆
@Irilia_neko
@Irilia_neko Жыл бұрын
Semi hermetic are generally very sturdy, but obviously they need all the components, like the oil
@jesse9713
@jesse9713 Жыл бұрын
It’s incredibly jarring seeing someone with an anime pfp commenting on an hvac video lmao
@Irilia_neko
@Irilia_neko Жыл бұрын
@@jesse9713 actually it's my OC, but it will be more fun if I told you I'm actually a real girl, I know girl are rare around here 😅
@mitchell8204
@mitchell8204 Жыл бұрын
​@@jesse9713Just wait till all the new guys at your company are zoomers who wish they were work-from-home coders lol.
@watermanone7567
@watermanone7567 Жыл бұрын
Good work, those old semi Hermetics's used to run for many years with no issues. Thanks for the video.
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Жыл бұрын
🤜🤛👍👍
@andyhunter4850
@andyhunter4850 Жыл бұрын
I love tool bag! Origination is the key to success!
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Жыл бұрын
I love the bag so far but I left my refrigeration wrench 🤦 on the discharge valve. I’m still figuring out where things need placed in the bag and that’s likely how I forgot it.
@CM-ou4zr
@CM-ou4zr Жыл бұрын
​​@@HVACRSurvivalthe most relatable thing I've ever seen in your videos is on a no heat call your tool bag fell and landed upside down. I think you said "I just LOVE it when that happens all over the floor" lol
@andyhunter4850
@andyhunter4850 Жыл бұрын
@@HVACRSurvival Don’t feel bad! I forgot the word “the” in front of “tool bag”. Lol
@georgebrabec1749
@georgebrabec1749 Жыл бұрын
Looks like a lack of priodic inspections. All the oil came back at once and Hydraulicly locked the crankshaft. Liquid floodback will push that oil out as will continued low pressure operation. A great teaching video on semi-hermetic failure troubleshooying.. Normally along with the compressor comes a contactor, crankcase heater, a suction line filter, more to stop debris from entering the new compressor. Complete walk through of all the controls.
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing! All valid points👍👍
@hvacrnortheastern2110
@hvacrnortheastern2110 Жыл бұрын
This video brings back memories when l did racks we had a few mom / Pop grocery stores like this store your servings.
@JoshKilen
@JoshKilen Жыл бұрын
nice job, as soon it fired up, I noticed it was rocking more than it should, so I knew something was wrong inside.
@mikefrayman5224
@mikefrayman5224 Жыл бұрын
These are the racks I worked on back in the 70s and 80s. Some of them are still running to this day.
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Жыл бұрын
I would guess you’re correct. 👍
@Boodieman72
@Boodieman72 Жыл бұрын
Hard to run a pump without the piston.
@AErefrigeration
@AErefrigeration Жыл бұрын
The variety of equipment you repair is impressive
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Жыл бұрын
It’s crazy.
@FPHA697
@FPHA697 Жыл бұрын
Nice video Rick! Those semi hermetics are tanks if properly care for. Back in Oct. I changed a red tag Copeland out dated year 88 on meat prep. They are getting hard to find around Huntsville Al. Usually 2-3 days out. Love the videos brother your doing one hell of a job!
@bensreferigeration
@bensreferigeration Жыл бұрын
So was oil level not maintained for years after leaks causing this or is it throughout the system? Looked like there was zero oil in crankcase. What a mess.
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Жыл бұрын
Oil wasn’t on the floor so it’s likely pumped it’s self out into the system. With longer run times it will come back. Monitoring is the only thing you can do with a little system like this. This is why racks have oil separators.
@tstartrekdude
@tstartrekdude Жыл бұрын
Oil seems to be a little compressor rich, 50% compressor by weight is too much for your oil.
@dougking7592
@dougking7592 Жыл бұрын
Dang I also found one with the crank shaft broke the other day, already replaced and back in service like the videos brother
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Жыл бұрын
🤜🤛👍👍🙏
@jxw9634
@jxw9634 Жыл бұрын
at first time it starts it was vibrating bad enough which mean you got broken piston
@topher8634
@topher8634 Жыл бұрын
I inspected these for warranty claims for bitzer. I can't remember how many i would take the bottom plate off and every rod would be busted. The warranty claim tag would be filled in with DOA, never ran.
@johnwalker890
@johnwalker890 Жыл бұрын
Good job Rick, I was going to say that looked like the piston setting in the oil pan.
@RobertTuck-vo8cw
@RobertTuck-vo8cw Жыл бұрын
All of the rest of them need to be serviced.
@richseahag4980
@richseahag4980 Жыл бұрын
Copeland says no warranty unless new oil sending unit and safety control are installed on replacement compressor.
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Жыл бұрын
Normally, a new contactor is one of the main thing I’ve always heard. I don’t know if I’ve heard that about the oil pressure switch.
@Ted_E_Bear
@Ted_E_Bear Жыл бұрын
Great job,Rick !
@ScottGriffith-o6f
@ScottGriffith-o6f Жыл бұрын
Good video thank you for sharing. I had an oil Lock out issue too with a Carlyle O6D and pulled the head and 1 of the 2 pistons was gone lol.
@user-ge5le4ku6j
@user-ge5le4ku6j Жыл бұрын
as always great workmanship
@fshn76
@fshn76 Жыл бұрын
Great Video Rick. Thats crazy how much intenal damage there was.
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Жыл бұрын
Tell me about it😄
@FrozenHaxor
@FrozenHaxor Жыл бұрын
Worst thing is that compressor has already circulated that lovely glitter all over the system, hopefully a new filter/dryer will catch that, along with long lost oil.
@zekenzy6486
@zekenzy6486 Жыл бұрын
Great Video. Thank you for sharing. Which Refrigerant semi-Hermetic compressor use ?
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Жыл бұрын
Thanks! I don’t understand the question.
@jasonjohnsonHVAC
@jasonjohnsonHVAC Жыл бұрын
Hahahahahaha. Can you repair it.....yes.....yes we can....its called a new compressor....that'll be $xxxxxx please.
@nicholastrottier4895
@nicholastrottier4895 Ай бұрын
great video. fantastic find. great content.. Must See TV!! lol
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Ай бұрын
😂👍👍
@RSBot2jar
@RSBot2jar Жыл бұрын
Rip poor compressor. Wonder what happened though? Flooded back too much?
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Жыл бұрын
It likely tried to start with a non condensable aka liquid refrigerant in area above the head of the piston or got slammed with liquid while running at full speed. (Flooded start vs floss back)
@darcybowyer5743
@darcybowyer5743 Жыл бұрын
That compressor truly sh*t the bed big time, when theres chunks in the sump and no oil prsssure.... And they kept resetting the oil safety cutout instead of shutting it down killed it. 😮
@sterlingarcher46
@sterlingarcher46 Жыл бұрын
I would quote for a new fan as well , starting with all fresh components for liability purposes. Trouble is that once you finish with the compressor replacement works you have to open a new can of worms with tryna find out how the last one failed ...
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Жыл бұрын
Naa ….get the compressor job and then go back and replace all the other stuff on another bill. That’s always the American way. Everybody wants to be cheap until it cost an arm and a leg.
@leeroberts1192
@leeroberts1192 Жыл бұрын
Is that sand that the compressor is covered in?
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Жыл бұрын
No just dirt.
@danpresson
@danpresson Жыл бұрын
Can you rebuild that compressor or replace it looks like it's history
@randomvideos9413
@randomvideos9413 Жыл бұрын
What was the reason for the compressor not getting oil? No compression because motor overheated because improper fan cycling? Am I understanding that correct?
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Жыл бұрын
It could have been short cycling due to valves and piston issues. If so then that will pump out the oil.
@randomvideos9413
@randomvideos9413 Жыл бұрын
Would love an update on the new compressor. Got a lot of noob experience changing those damn rack compressors at my old job and learned a bit about the controls. Not enough. Oil system I didn’t understand feeding between multiple compressors, when it comes to troubleshooting. I know we changed one compressor for oil issues and it didn’t last long. Being a noob I wasnt there for service and never found out what was wrong. Rack compressor changeouts are quite a chore between two people is my experience. Darn costco
@HEFTYLEFTY303
@HEFTYLEFTY303 10 ай бұрын
Good job bro keep the content coming
@TheWittyGeek
@TheWittyGeek 3 ай бұрын
About what I'd expect from a Save A Lot n
@macbong01
@macbong01 Жыл бұрын
did you change out the compressor?
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Жыл бұрын
Yes I did. It’s still running
@veil67
@veil67 Жыл бұрын
so reliable normally, a basic maintenance goes a long way ,it’s very sad to see all the metal shaving
@Coldkill3
@Coldkill3 Жыл бұрын
Out of curiosity, how many hours does it take to dissassemble and and install a new compressor take? Also, is this compressor complete junk at this point or will it end up with being rebuilt and resold as a refurb down the road?
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Жыл бұрын
The factory will rebuild it, not us. Depending the distance, the job is from the shop plus the labor that is calculated that’s how we would come up with the price changing one of those compressors doesn’t take long because you can valve off the high side and low side and just unbold it, but there could be other issues, there could be pieces of stuff in the refrigerant lines that gets caught into other components, but we usually will put in there a clause that says those are extra cost that may happen, but not covered under this quote.
@Spruce-Bug
@Spruce-Bug 8 ай бұрын
All those shavings, that's from flooding?
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival 8 ай бұрын
Flooding takes away oil. What happens when there’s no oil in an engine or in this case a compressor?
@Spruce-Bug
@Spruce-Bug 8 ай бұрын
@@HVACRSurvival Wild. Maybe some slugging too if the crankshaft got busted up?
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival 8 ай бұрын
@@Spruce-Bug correct, you can’t compress a liquid. That’s what likely snapped it off.
@Spruce-Bug
@Spruce-Bug 8 ай бұрын
@@HVACRSurvival Good to know. Thanks for replying. I'll be extra sure to verify low ambient suction pressure from now on lol
@bmillwood6666
@bmillwood6666 Жыл бұрын
I honestly thought you worked for yourself but now in the past few months you have put out rack videos. Do you not work for yourself? Did you transfer to a new company and start full time rack work?
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Жыл бұрын
I work for a company that does everything under the sun. We have over 100 employees. That’s how I can be doing residential one day and doing an industrial call the next then maybe I’ll finish it out with some food service equipment and a generator. We have welders auto mechanics, plumbers engineers, architects, electricians, blah blah blah blah blah I was supposed to get into grocery and industrial Several years ago but it’s been delayed. Thanks to people in front of me. Those people are now not in the way as much as what they were.
@davejohnsonnola1536
@davejohnsonnola1536 Жыл бұрын
Hope you get to to work on whatever you want, and continue to share what you can. It doesn't all apply to what I do but enjoy learning what I can. Gracias caballero!
@shine-cg9uf
@shine-cg9uf Жыл бұрын
🇺🇸💪👍❄️ looks like ur mining for gold with all that glitter. Great video thanks
@martinleska4292
@martinleska4292 Жыл бұрын
16:15 side of head is orange. It looks like rust because head was so hot it burned paint and oil with dust to bare cast which starts rusting immediately.
@gtpforever
@gtpforever Жыл бұрын
Does that watch do the same warning when around someone's wife for any extended amount of time? 😂🤣😂🤣
@richardharmon874
@richardharmon874 Жыл бұрын
So do you install new compressor with full oil? How do you know the old compressor oil isn't in evaporators?you can try flush lines but then you need to recover whole system
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Жыл бұрын
You have to install the compressor with oil at the normal level but would need to stop back and monitor the oil and oil acid levels. This could require oil to be removed or changed. This place was 50 miles from my area so it likely won’t happen. We haven’t heard back yet about authorization so they likely are going to keep being cheap and have it happen again. As you can See the store is low budget food with low budget maintenance.
@karizmatic5
@karizmatic5 Жыл бұрын
Wow.
@DonutsRGreat
@DonutsRGreat 5 ай бұрын
Hope they warrantied that one haha
@marknaravas318
@marknaravas318 Жыл бұрын
Forbidden Glitter. Never a promising start to any job.
@nathanhurst5155
@nathanhurst5155 Жыл бұрын
It came from togetherness
@topher8634
@topher8634 Жыл бұрын
Looks like a piston.
@Paul-IE-Repairs
@Paul-IE-Repairs Жыл бұрын
on todays episode of "how its made" were making anti seize
@NLind
@NLind Жыл бұрын
If you have a call like this do you later patronize the store by buying items on your grocery list? And especially at the end/last call/only call of the day where you can buy perishable items. I likely would, basically a 2 birds with 1 stone opportunity.
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Жыл бұрын
I do at times, more so at the ice cream stands where they actually know me.
@stacihess9378
@stacihess9378 Жыл бұрын
That is a dirty comp room. Looks like they aren't having regular maintenance or the last company didn't do much. So many places are reactive only on breakdowns about their systems and proper maintenance is never done.
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Жыл бұрын
This is a newer account to us and not in my normal area. I don’t think p.m. was done ever unless broken.
@throttlebottle5906
@throttlebottle5906 Жыл бұрын
everyone should automatically "quote" the cooling fan, cycling switches/controls(wiring?) as part of a failed compressor replacement. cover your hind quarters 🤔
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Жыл бұрын
We haven’t heard from them yet so that’s the reason why we have to be selective. Under biding is a problem
@mattyb7736
@mattyb7736 Жыл бұрын
Ahh, the magic glitter has been released. 😂 always a good sign........not
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Жыл бұрын
lol 😂
@marvinsellers4457
@marvinsellers4457 11 ай бұрын
Well we can’t make a silk purse out of a hogs ear Captain
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival 11 ай бұрын
😀😂🤟
@ThePowerofElectricity
@ThePowerofElectricity 11 ай бұрын
That's what you'd call engine-rich oil. Very expensive.
@Kevin-wj4ed
@Kevin-wj4ed Жыл бұрын
PM PROGRAM????????????
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Жыл бұрын
No, such thing with this place.
@KevinKinder-ey9gv
@KevinKinder-ey9gv Жыл бұрын
Time to upgrade
@roqueherrera8471
@roqueherrera8471 Жыл бұрын
Can’t hear u bruh too loud in the background
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Жыл бұрын
It depends on what I’m listening on. Sometimes it sounds ok on the phone and sounds bad on the computer. But it’s 90 plus db in the room, with that set up I was using normally does good in that environment because the mic is pointed at me. But there are times when it’s stationary that I don’t switch the mic because it’s a short sentence and I could forget to switch the mic back and that’s how one of the more recent videos has really bad audio.
@IslandbreezeMechanical
@IslandbreezeMechanical Жыл бұрын
Should just replace all the controls. Prevent a future callback.
@hellhound-si5oz
@hellhound-si5oz Жыл бұрын
It grenaded
@lqueryvg666
@lqueryvg666 Жыл бұрын
That sure is some "pretty" oil! LOL.....
@lqueryvg666
@lqueryvg666 Жыл бұрын
OMG - commented too quickly - it also has spare parts built in? Beautiful!!!! - HAHAHA
@JCM2LA
@JCM2LA 3 ай бұрын
:0
@steveblake8766
@steveblake8766 Жыл бұрын
75 thumbs up
@Eddy63
@Eddy63 Жыл бұрын
Nice job & nice vid ... Thx for sharing your expertise
@throttlebottle5906
@throttlebottle5906 Жыл бұрын
R.I.P. compressor(whole rack is clearly spanked out). if they're individual circuits then replace compressor, install giant filters and move on. if combined/grouped, oh dear lord help them.(remember that was College engineering(long ago) not much has changed, do you trust them as a working field grunt? 🧐🥳🥸
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