Hybrid Looking Doubtful, Plus A Big Prado Update! (2024 Toyota Land Cruiser 250 Series Price & Spec)

Running through the latest big Prado news update, including the five models, prices and specs plus issues arising with the hybrid for Australia.
The Toyota Land Cruiser Prado 250 Series is almost ready to launch in Australia and Toyota has now given us pricing and most specifications for each grade.
We still haven't seen the Australia-spec GX, GXL or VX models but we have photos of the local-spec Altitude and Kakadu grades.
Engine-wise it is a 2.8-litre 48-volt diesel four-cylinder for Australia with the same old 150kW of power or 201 horsepower.
Other markets do get a 2.4-litre turbo petrol hybrid (the i-Force Max) but numerous problems are making that engine look pretty uncertain for Australia - it tows less and doesn't save much fuel, which does not help Toyota reduce its overall CO2 emissions (important in Australia from 2025).
What are your thoughts?
Time codes:
0:00 - Prado launching soon
0:25 - 2.8-litre diesel four-cylinder
0:52 - Disappointing engine?
1:09 - 2.4-litre turbo petrol hybrid
1:50 - Is this hybrid suitable for Australia?
2:06 - Lower towing capacity
2:30 - Prado hybrid doesn't save fuel
3:28 - Australia's new emissions laws
4:01 - Prado hybrid emissions are similar
4:23 - Huge hybrid sales required
5:37 - Will we see a different hybrid?
6:03 - PHEV and EV versions possible
6:19 - CO2 is the key measurement
6:35 - Australian Prado specs
6:53 - Prices
7:13 - Prado GX specifications
7:39 - Prado GXL specifications
8:17 - Prado VX specifications
8:56 - Prado Altitude specifications
9:36 - Prado Kakadu specifications
10:00 - A $100,000 Prado
10:15 - Is it worth the price?
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[@michaelharrington9966]

Thanks for sharing. If there is not likely going to be a Hybrid Petrol version of the Prado, you have saved me wasting my time waiting for it to arrive.

[@chasingcars]

Certainly doesn't seem like the American hybrid powertrain is coming here imminently.

[@oggyoggy1299]

What hybrid petrol will you get?

[@simonbates5939]

@@oggyoggy1299 Tank 500?

[@swallis1236]

@@oggyoggy1299more power for reasonable fuel consumption

[@JamesWant]

Agree

[@rsii83]

The grill on VX and Kakadu has killed the design! "Oh, what a feeling"

[@chasingcars]

Yeah they don’t look good to my eye. Wish they all had the retro TOYOTA grille.

[@damianpasfield4338]

@@chasingcars wish they had the round headlights also

[@shadow2load]

totally. wish they could offer a launch edition with 7 seats and the retro grill. even better, take away the adaptive suspension, sunroof, and the JBL, and put in a locking diff.

[@rsii83]

@@chasingcars I'm very depressing and sore eyes at the same time.

[@jasonr3165]

They must have too many leftover grills from the previous version. Pick them up and modify them. lol

[@Joekie308]

Good video. Toyota dropped the ball on this one. Needed a modern engine. Definitely not replacing my old 150.

[@komapaiim]

defintely getting the new one:)

[@LordSothMajere]

I think if I had a pick, it would be the Altitude. Although why you have to wait for the second from top model to get a rear differential, is beyond me.

[@chasingcars]

Agree

[@electropad]

Altitude is the model that starts getting proper off-road credentials with the multi terrain select and rear locker. It will be around $97,500 on road.

[@LordSothMajere]

@@electropad I'm just baulking at that price though...

[@electropad]

@@LordSothMajere It is expensive and you can get far more luxury for less with other models like heated and cooled seats, premium leather, sunroof, digital rear view mirror etc. But they are not a Toyota and that's really important to a lot of people. I am also hoping wait times are less than a year 🤞

[@muhammadbaqir7472]

Tom, excellent review ❤. Now that makes complete sense. No channel has cover Prado that good. Keep up the good job, Tom 👍🌟. Always rely on your channel for factual and honest reviews.

[@chasingcars]

Much appreciated!

[@damianpasfield4338]

I think Toyota really dropped the ball by not having the option for the round headlights. They look so much better. The rectangular ones look like an afterthought. Rectangular light in a square hole with a filler piece of plastic beneath the light. Just looks out of place

[@andyalways8081]

Hate the round head lights. Like going back 50years..

[@rjbiker66]

Apparently it's easy to retro fit the round lights

[@damianpasfield4338]

​@@andyalways8081and people like you can have your modern out of place looking rectangular headlights on your retro inspired car. All I'm saying is it would have been nice to have the option

[@damianpasfield4338]

​@@rjbiker66yes but the headlights will need to be from another right hand drive country. And that might prove difficult trying to source lights from Japan or South Africa...

[@damianpasfield4338]

@@andyalways8081 You and everyone that shares your opinion can still have your out of place looking modern rectangular headlights on your retro styled car. All I'm saying is that it would have been nice to at least have the option for the round lights

[@ross3282]

110l fuel. Lotta travellers will miss the 150l of the current model.

[@matthewanderson3964]

Hey Tom... GX550, or Prado Kakadu?

[@samhassall1926]

Is the down under model also like the US one where you can put the car in Low without locking the center. Unlike the last one?

[@PradoKakadu]

Just took delivery of my 2023 Prado Kakadu in Crystal Pearl with black leather interior. Was one of the last new Kakadu's available for $99,990 before on road costs. Was stoked to get a brand new one & think it looks way better than the boxy FJ Cruiser looking 250 Prado. Another reason besides the looks is the 150l fuel tank & rear mounted spare which I'm sure is a massive positive to have for those outback adventures & road trips compared to the new 110 litre offering.

[@ClaudeBawles]

You'd think the engine would at least be retuned to that of the Hilux GR Sport with 165KW and 550 NM.

[@chasingcars]

Yes, precisely.

[@steveba50]

Best review on you tube Tom good informative presentation and breakdown. Much appreciated.

[@user-kg4lq4ll3q]

Thanks Tom, brilliant insight and review of the new model. Look forward to the full review when they land in Oz.

[@torizaemon]

I am a Toyota fan, and i have a VX Prado already... but if i was being charged these numbers, i'd be looking at a BYD Shark or something else like a Tank 500. Price has gotta return to sanity, c'mon mannnnn.

[@marklaurendet1861]

Unless I missed something no version comes with 17" wheels. The best option for towing for some people, easier to match van and car wheels for spares. VX looses the rear locking diff? Altitude looks good as a 5 seat option, shame about the sun roof, another thing to leak rain and dust. Hope this model has a good range. I still hope for a full diesel with two tanks for the van towers, dont know if a hybrid will have the range for outback towing. After all they are not all just used for people movers To me it looks like Toyota are specking these more for city use than country towing.

[@DemosBessios]

Will the panoramic roof on the kakadu open??

[@zacharymiller7763]

I’ve got a deposit down on one. My biggest gripe is that the gxl only comes with seven seats. Bit of a shame they dont come stock at that badge with 5 like they have done for the last ten years. But not a huge deal I suppose. I’m really excited. Love the look of the new shape and dont really mind the engine as I’ve driven that Hilux engine for the last year or so

[@netsiteing]

so comparing new Prado GXL with Everest Sport V6 for the same price, Ford looks like a clear winner for specs ... Toyota has the "new model" vibe and reliability going for it

[@chasingcars]

It definitely appear that way. The Everest does have some sketchy dynamics in wet weather on *some* of its OEM wheel/tyre packages, but the V6 has heaps more grunt than the Toyota four-banger. I suspect the Toyota will be a bit plusher inside and perhaps a tad more refined overall (engine aside). Looking forward to a comparison, obviously!

[@netsiteing]

@@chasingcars same, look forward to your review and comparison between these two

[@AnarchistBogan]

New GXL is same spec as the VX 150 pretty much

[@chasingcars]

Maybe GXL will be the sweet spot rather than the VX, we'll see. Naturally I would want mine with the light interior, but I'm weird like that.

[@sadilankri2914]

i have ordered vx modal if you are correct about the new price i thing i will delay or cancel my order.

[@BattleScar09]

Can you tell me if the car has acoustic glass in the windows to reduce outside noise like the GX 550? I don’t see it defined anywhere

[@mnnh3317]

Its a Toyotaso unlikely- they've gotta leave something for the lexus GX to differentiate itself. All the refinement features are generally left to Lexus

[@gureno19]

Kind of feels like Toyota have a HEAP of 2.8TDs they need to off-load over the next 2 years, before eventually announcing the Iforce hybrid.

[@michaelmacwilliam3370]

ELI5 - if the petrol hybrid makes so much more torque than the old diesel, and the vehicle weighs the same, with the same brakes etc etc, why would it be rated at 2700kg towing? What else goes in to that calculation?

[@timfreeman2603]

2.8L was underwhelming in the old Prado. I’ll be going for the Landcruiser 300 instead.

[@fishfullness]

100k for a 4 cylinder diesel with a 48v alternator - however which way you look at it it is not great value is it and I think anyone that gets one of these over a second hand 200 or 300 series has some strange priorities.

[@mnnh3317]

the same car sell for a fraction of the price in Japan, where this model is assembled. Export tax levied by Toyota.......

[@trentbutler-dq6qv]

The minimum 10,000 unit sales to justify making a RH drive version of the petrol hybrid just doesn't make sense considering Toyota are already building a RH drive Prado on the factory line but with the diesel. Surely there is minimal changes inside the cabin, just take the diesel RH drive Prado and fit the petrol hybrid engine & drivetrain. 10,000 units would be necessary to justify converting to RH drive a vehicle that currently only exists in LH drive such as the Tundra. There would be thousands of soccer Mums in the big cities that have no need for diesel or 3.5t towing capacity, crazy not to have the petrol hybrid as an option for Aust.

[@chasingcars]

I might not of made the subtleties of that point clear enough. The way the story was related to me, the engineering work simply has not been done on that combination of the hybrid powertrain and the new Prado chassis for right-hand drive deployment. So Toyota Australia would basically have to cover that re-engineering cost to make the engine itself ready for RHD in this chassis, and then recoup that spend with the sort of sales we are talking about

[@damianpasfield4338]

Is this maybe just marketing bull...t. I swear I read there were other RHD markes getting the petrol hybrid

[@chasingcars]

I don’t believe you would have read that at this stage. Like us, the Brits are only taking the Prado with the 2.8 diesel 48v. Same with NZ. Same with South Africa. No 2.4 hybrid for RHD in any of those markets. Perhaps if all those countries decided to take the 2.4, the amortisation cost would be lower, but Australia would easily be the highest sales volume.

[@80kg]

@@chasingcars thanks for your patient answers!

[@mnnh3317]

@@chasingcars Australa is not the only RHD market - there is still the Japanese domestic market, the Uk and Ireland and much of the Commonwealth that will require the RHD versions. So its not just Aussies picking up the tab

[@The10thDentist]

Thanks for update

[@chasingcars]

You’re welcome

[@mannyvalenti475]

Looks great and I’m sure reliability and build quality will be up there, but I am disappointed Toyota haven’t worked hard enough on a hybrid diesel! This means there will be a lot more disappointment when the new hilux is unveiled next year!! From a very disappointed Toyota byer

[@netsiteing]

no Rear Locking Diff on neither VX or GXL??? current/old Prado GXL has one

[@chasingcars]

Yeah, well picked up and a bit of a disappointment. Only Altitude gets rear diff lock, and Kakadu swaps it for a rear LSD which operates differently. Basically if you want it sorted out of the box you'll need to go for Altitude.

[@netsiteing]

@@chasingcars I know, disappointed ... I have front and rear LSD with Quadra Drive II on my 2007 Jeep Commander CRD with V6 3.L engine which produces similar power output what the new Ford 3L V6 does.

[@martinharris8645]

I have a 105 series with factory front and rear diff locks. It seems Toyota is going backwards.

[@electropad]

Tom is right the altitude is the model that starts getting proper off-road credentials with the multi terrain select and rear locker. It will be around $97,500 on road.

[@green_comet83]

The yanks get a rear locker on every model as standard. What a joke Toyota Aus.

[@b3nz0r12]

2009 120 Prado - 1936kg Kerb weight. 2024 250 Prado - ~2495 Kerb weight Over 500Kg heavier is kind of insane!

[@constantineoxenenko7095]

Not clear how will it perform with the same engine and heavier by ~200kg. Will it put more pressure on the engine and transmission?

[@warboyrb]

That's my point too. It will be pretty average is my guess.

[@mnnh3317]

@@warboyrb 0-60 will be like 10 secs? No overtaking in this bad boy.

[@DevonReclaimed]

As an American who drives a GX 460 in because it's the only way to get a Land Cruiser Prado in my market I feel really bad for you guys because you're losing the KDSS system on the Toyota for it to be exclusive on the GX550 now

[@snoopy13946]

Which grade gets the kdss?

[@chasingcars]

None! The Prado Altitude model gets the new Stabiliser Disconnect Mechanism, which works very differently to KDSS or e-KDSS. If you want KDSS on a "Prado" you now have to buy the Lexus GX550 Overtrail ($122,250 before on-road costs), which has the feature. Here's our explainer on SDM vs KDSS: www.chasingcars.com.au/news/car-technology/new-toyota-prado-to-drop-kdss-in-favour-of-new-sdm-tech/

[@Just_charston]

should have a non hybrid option!!! and im sold! the booth's 60kg limit is not for me ill go with the recent version

[@tonym527]

Why is there no mention of Adblu? This will be mandatory when they land in Australia.

[@bobmarli6095]

Because adblue won’t be mandatory on diesels until Dec 2025 when the euro 6 emissions standards are adopted

[@Piccolo_Re]

All my times off roading I have never once seen anything like a Land Cruiser, Lexus LX nor G Wagon on the back roads. Thats what they’re made for but people aren’t taking $100k vehicles off road and on back roads. What’s the point of them then?

[@steveallen1340]

More power, more torque, same fuel consumption, can tow as much as I need and anyone wanting to tow more than 2.7tonnes should be looking for a bigger option anyway . The hybrid sounds like a good option but I can understand that marketing it may be a challenge.

[@johnlopes1341]

I think you'll find that the hybrid for the US Land Cruiser (Prado) is an IForce Max like you find on the Tundra. The "hybrid" system on coupled infant of the transmission and is there to provide more torque and off the line performance. It is NOT intended for fuel economy, just a way to provide more "power" without the large engine displacement.

[@chasingcars]

Sure, none of that goes against anything I’ve said however. The combination of no fuel cut + lower towing means it’s an uphill battle for Toyota to justify bothering to bring the Prado hybrid here. Sure, it has more power, but will enough buyers care about that? As I said, 1 in 2 Prado customers would have to select the hybrid. Not sure power alone will do the job, and that is all it’s got.

[@stevespringfield]

@@chasingcars Yes. Enough buyers will care about more power. 150kwh, in a 4wd of this weight and price in 2024 is crazy. I was 100% in for one until I saw the pathetic engine figures. Tank 500 it is.

[@rjbiker66]

Tundra uses v6 turbo petrol. US landcruiser uses 2.4 turbo 4 cylinder petrol.

[@johnlopes1341]

@@rjbiker66 yes but the "hybrid" system is the same. It is used to deliver more torque on acceleration and is not designed for fuel efficiency.

[@johnlopes1341]

@@chasingcars my point was in response to your comments about the new NEVS and total fleet emissions, this "hybrid" system would work against Toyota in this respect and as you stated, a big ask to get 50% of total Prado sales.

[@tldrinfographics5769]

Toyota is testing the lower limits of our IQ

[@stephenmuller5098]

It has been that way for a while going by the advertising I see on TV.

[@samhassall1926]

First thing I’d be doing in importing some round headlights

[@chasingcars]

I wonder how easy or hard the job is

[@craigcullen4171]

I would have jumped at the petrol option if it was available. I tow in tonnes not 3 tonne. Should be cheaper to service and run over time as no egr system complications, adblue. A 4 cylinder petrol engine would suit a huge amount of Prado buyers. V6 would be less desirable as traditionally thirsty through Toyota like the v8 diesel and petrol engines

[@fongthao1902]

Needs a V6 diesel turbo, maybe in GR spec.😅

[@DawnGreer-tm4pm]

Wouldn't it make more sense for Toyota to release the Prado with the V6 twin turbo engine as another option? It would be interesting to see the sales numbers v's the 2.8 Deisel.

[@chasingcars]

I suspect that would severely reduce LC300 sales, which probably has even higher margins

[@actiaint]

I would buy if we could get the petrol hybrid version - why buy the 2.8 diesel only to see the 2.4 introduced in year or two.

[@tonysambar]

Round headlight versions look so much better

[@weigao4836]

Keeping the old 2.8-litre diesel engine with the outdated 48-volt light hybrid battery, I can see how not using advanced technology can make the vehicle more reliable, but why has the price gone up so much? It also lost a rear differential lock relative to the older model

[@actiaint]

Good point - if we are getting the old 2.8D then lets see it reflected in price.

[@christianabraham217]

I think there is enough "cool" factor with this for people to still buy it in droves. After all aspirational buys are not purely logical.

[@chasingcars]

I don’t doubt the Prado will sell strongly, but I do have considerable doubts Toyota could convince 50% of Prado buyers to choose the hybrid if it is down on towing and doesn’t save any fuel.

[@youtubecarspottersguide1]

6:57 U.S. $ to aus $ yours are cheaper than the ones sold in the U.S. and they come out of the same factory and shipped x the oceans ....... we get taken by Toyota and the dealers mark them up $5000-$30k U.S. over sticker

[@actiaint]

The only reason is the emission: right hand drive will sell in UK, NZ and europe so the numbers is bs.

[@goldmindguru]

So worry about their cut cost car structure and safety

[@oggyoggy1299]

You’ll struggle to get 7.9litres/100km out of these things. Sure, on some trips you’ll get better than that, but very rarely (usually at 60-80km/h without stopping). I got a Prado last year and after 23,000km have averaged 8.9litres/100kms, with multiple 900km round-trip country jaunts.

[@chasingcars]

Oh, I totally agree - but real-world is irrelevant for calculating NVES penalties. The only score that matters is the *on paper* CO2 emissions.

[@jacobmphambe3711]

Notifications on baby

[@chasingcars]

Thanking you

[@netsiteing]

silly right? so the diesel engine is rated as having lower CO2 emissions than the petrol+hybrid ... so much for more hybrid and electrification then

[@chasingcars]

Compared to US-specification petrol V8 or V6 engines, the turbo-petrol hybrid cuts fuel use. The problem is that Australia always had the half-reasonably-frugal diesel, so the turbo hybrid doesn't cut fuel use or CO2. Looks like we would need a different hybrid Prado for it to make economic sense locally. That said, the diesel isn't perfect - at 209g/km, it's right on the 2025 NVES 4WD limit!

[@Billywoo12]

If you want a petrol, buy the Lexus GX.

[@ImJustWantToComment]

the diesel engine will outlive the petrol engine yet that istn a factor in enviromental impact?? wat is going on 2+2=5

[@rjbiker66]

The 2.4 turbo hybrid prado in the USA is a gas guzzler. And you lose the 3rd row of seats.

[@user-qq3gq6sr9p]

I have owned 2 Prados, all new starting with the 2010 and then the 2018 model. I use this mainly to tow my boat which is about 2000kg. This is a chore to say the least but I do love these vehicles. I was going to buy the new Prado - no questions asked - BUT - seriously, the same breathless shitty 2,8 litre engine but costing $20.000 more for a GXL than I paid in 2018? Plus on roads?> You have got to be joking! Every vehicle owned by my family is a Toyota but I will not buy the new Prado with the same underpowered old engine!

[@mnnh3317]

US hybrid version lacks a third row, so you're gonna loose some versatility too, as well as towing capacity with the petrol-hybrid. Guess its gonna be 4-pot diesel all round. Gonna miss those 6 and 8 cylinders of old...

[@darrenprior6339]

The engine is a disaster. Surely Toyota could have put the 300 series Six in it without it cannibalising the bigger Grandpa car!! I really wanted to buy this. Now I don't

[@chasingcars]

I would have liked to have seen a six-cylinder as well, but I imagine Toyota is protecting the Lexus GX as well.

[@kieranmccann7823]

Lexus gx 550 then.

[@ClonewarswarsClone]

@@kieranmccann7823the engine in that lexus got recalled though in states and Canada recently

[@gureno19]

It's called product segmentation.... And that product exists in the Lexus guise.

[@darrenprior6339]

@@gureno19 I know what it's called. I also know what I want. I also know I'm not alone wanting it.

[@paulvictor9368]

I think the sales would be even between the Altitude and VX. My pick would be Altitude. It is a lot of money and I think people might not buy it as readily as in the past.

[@chasingcars]

I’d be going GXL or Altitude at this point I reckon, probably Altitude.

[@paulvictor9368]

@@chasingcars me too, or a secondhand 300?

[@asajelfs8170]

If you want outdated technology a Toyota is perfect for you.

[@richardcollis5576]

That towing statement needs to be scrutinised. I’d like to see a proper vehicle engineer talk to the diesel vs petrol option. The marketing guy is just that a marketing guy. He’s not going to have any power on what comes to oz. But he will be pushing what he can sell.

[@chasingcars]

The only statement that was made was a recitation of the maximum braked towing weight the Prado hybrid is certified for in the US. It’s not an opinion. Further, probably worth pointing out that your “marketing guy” assumption is an uninformed one: the person you’re talking about is also head of sales for Toyota, a position that effectively decides what products the company brings to Australia, and in what format. Not exactly a powerless ad-man.

[@AandKs]

The pricing vs specs don't add up. Seems Toyota dropped the ball..

[@orangejuicepony6881]

What Toyota will do is sell more Hybrids and offset the pollution the Land Cruiser and Hilux range has with a diesel and pay nothing to the Government, for the next few years until the threshold comes down far enough to start costing the consumer. My guess is people will just pay while Toyota keeps pulling down the CO2 of the rest of the fleet to minimize the impact. Either way resale is going to be epic!

[@chasingcars]

That's definitely possible - the only problem being that the thresholds (as legislated) actually do get quite tough on the 4WD side very quickly. 210g/km in the first year is easily doable, 180g/km in 2026 is OK… 150g/km in 2027 is genuinely quite tough. By the same time, the passenger car limit also gets very, very difficult without going to PHEV. So even Toyota will struggle within a few years if they plan to still sell 200g/km+ 4WDs and utes. The winner, as you say, may be the people that purchase at the current prices - if OEMs have to jack up the retail price of high-CO2 vehicles to pay emissions penalties.

[@JamesWant]

Surely the vast majority of buyers would prefer a modern petrol hybrid that is more exciting to drive over an ageing diesel with more towing capacity. Especially when so many will never tow anything. Missed the mark imo.

[@pavansai9066]

Toyota should consider at least detuned version of v6 diesel in lc300 like detuned version of petrol v6 in lx600 to gx550

[@chasingcars]

Agreed. But I think a diesel V6 Prado would kind of spoil Lexus's chance to get the GX established in Australia for the first time. Sucks, because a Prado Altitude with diesel V6 would be absolutely ideal, I believe.

[@kjenk19]

It seems wild to me that anyone would buy a non-electrified vehicle at this point. Be it some form of hybrid or fully electric. I can only imagine what we will be paying for fuel after 5-10 years of owning a now new car.

[@chasingcars]

That may well be accurate, but if the hybrid Prado (in its current form) doesn’t save fuel, why would you buy it? Maybe for the big increase in power, but that’s probably it.

[@jasonr3165]

The grill on VX and higher is going backwards.....so damn ugly.

[@warboyrb]

Absolute nonsense telling us what we need. I guess I'll be spending my $$ somewhere else, instead on that 2.8 diesel heap.

[@AnarchistBogan]

It’s a great engine but it could have been updated to 165kw 550nm

[@warboyrb]

@@AnarchistBogan It was ok in the last of the 150s, but this new Prado is near 200kg heavier, and without power/torque bump I believe it will be a slug. It really does need an overhaul in the power/torque numbers to interest me.

[@N-SOJU]

Mmm how about a diesel hybrid,🤔

[@chasingcars]

Could make the most sense if they can make the refinement good enough. V6 diesel + hybrid could be pretty slick…

[@simoneatough6391]

That engine is disappointing, but the price is ridiculous. But Toyota know their market and Toyota fans will complain, but in the end they wont be going elsewhere Edit: actually that Lexus GX is looking like a decent deal compared to the Prado

[@Terror-il5nm]

Very lazy by Toyota, you can’t justify the price with this engine for a better looking interior.

[@golfhacker9051]

I will stick with my 150 series. Been teasing us for years on a new engine... awaiting.................wait.............Nooooooooooooooooooooo!

[@kieranmccann7823]

It will be interesting next year when all ladder frame vehicles are exempt from luxury car tax. Do you think Toyota will drop the price or keep the extra $$$$😂.

[@chasingcars]

If that's the case with LCT I think I may have missed it - could you point me in the right direction? I couldn't find it off a quick Google search.

[@kieranmccann7823]

@@chasingcars at this stage I can’t remember where I read it. I’ll keep digging.

[@swallis1236]

From the ATO website: The LCT threshold for 2024-25 is: $91,387 for fuel-efficient vehicles. This is in line with an increase to the motor-vehicle purchase sub-group of the Consumer Price Index (CPI) $80,567 for all other luxury vehicles, in line with an increase in the ‘All Groups’ CPI.

[@swallis1236]

The Prado just missed out by 0.8 L/100km on being classed as Fuel Efficient for LCT purposes 😢

[@simranbanga5467]

Even 2700kgs is too much for this small size 4wd. Shouldn’t me more than the weight of the 4wd or Ute. It’s not a large 4wd by any means

[@gride5153]

In my opinion, it’s way too expensive for what you get.

[@anantsharma8096]

Disappointed!!! I was waiting for hybrid parado. Or a more powerful diesel.

[@patricklin6177]

The 2.4L Hybrid, I believe, is similar to the Lexus 2.4T Hybrid. it's not aiming to save fuel but targeting performance.

[@chasingcars]

Yes, but the problem is that Australian Toyota buyers rightly equate hybrid with some degree of fuel saving. Probably because we didn’t get nearly as many big petrol engines in many Toyota product in recent decades, or if we did, most people went diesel

[@milescrommando4622]

Rather a tank 500.

[@tldrinfographics5769]

Why?

[@tersy9862]

One thing you missed mention is that the government is bringing in Euro 6 which the current 2.8 won't meet. They would have to do alot of work including ad blue to get it to meet the emission standards if it even can meet them. This obviously can't be done overnight. Toyota is in abit of a pickle here it's not just the 250 series but also the Hilux that's in trouble.

[@warboyrb]

So basically there's no need to jump on the 2.8 bandwagon now, wait till 2026/27 and this should have a decent 180kw/600Nm new motor. Easy decision.

[@kevinferguson530]

Overpriced for what it offers. Whilst the exterior looks nice the interior doesn’t especially in that price point where other manufacturers are providing luxurious interiors. I definitely wouldn’t be rushing out to buy this SUV. Also the Lexus GX550 isn’t much better, 6 cylinder turbo but comes standard with a tiny 80L tank. Also the GX550 cannot be driven due to issues with the sunroof. Add that in the US the Toyota V6 engines are blowing up and you have to wonder is Toyota losing that tag of being reliable?

[@JamesWant]

Surely the vast majority of buyers would prefer a modern petrol hybrid that is more exciting to drive over an ageing diesel with more towing capacity. Especially when so many will never tow anything more than an occasional box trailer. Missed the mark imo.

[@billybob1511]

Come on Tom, it's Toyota nonsense. Not everyone needs to tow 3.5t. If you do then you buy the 2.8 slugger or a 300 series. I'm over Toyota.

[@chasingcars]

I actually don’t blame Toyota for this. They do talk nonsense sometimes. But this is an Aussie marketing issue. Rugged vehicles with poor towing capacity have a marketing problem - even if (yes) people don’t often tow 3500kg with a Prado. But especially on the economy / CO2 point, that’s just a fact, rather than anything Toyota is trying to parrot. If the hybrid doesn’t cut fuel use, it won’t help on the NVES front, so why would you kick in the funds to bring it here if there’s not some very compelling other reason?

[@Mark.AUS.]

All Toyota hybrids in Australia as you pointed out are about reducing fuel consumption, the US version of the Land Cruiser Prado hybrid is about increasing power and torque, not about reducing fuel consumption, because Americans tend to be more concerned about power and torque than fuel consumption. We don’t like thirsty 4WDs hence why when Prado was sold with both diesel and petrol versions, diesel was much more popular and why Toyota ended up ditching the petrol versions. Apart from emissions, Toyota probably also thinks because US Prado hybrids don’t provide fuel consumption savings that they won’t sell as well as they’d like and reach the sales targets they would want.

[@MultiShizmo]

That grill is fugly!

[@swallis1236]

Which one? Kakadu? Agreed

[@chasingcars]

The Kakadu grille (which VX also has - sadly) is a big miss.

[@MultiShizmo]

@chasingcars you're kidding mate, the vx is the winner, but not with that grill

[@chasingcars]

Yeah I didn’t initially realise VX had the Kakadu grille… but it does. Wonder how easy a swap might be?

[@rsii83]

@MultiShizmo I am totally agree. The only japanese did not mess up is the anime!

[@paulkendrick174]

We need a hybrid petrol option away from a diesel engine as these are more harmful to humans and the environment..

[@rajasingh5490]

Not good news at all

[@EWL-55]

Underwhelming engine.

[@chasingcars]

Not expecting great acceleration.

[@acquapanda]

If anyone believe this nonsense, thats beyond me. Its all about cost and money.

[@chasingcars]

The points I’ve made are, indeed, all about cost and money

[@AnarchistBogan]

This NVES is going to be disaster. Once every day people realise how much more expensive vehicles are they’ll riot. A hybrid would lose the third row seats too.

[@chasingcars]

Will be watching on with interest. Some manufacturers (Toyota included) are well-prepared for the first few years, at least; others less so.

[@richardcharlton8259]

Toyota have lost the plot for F sake put a bigger engine in it

[@tonysambar]

Your Labor government won't allow anymore large engines.

[@lukewarm2075]

Wont be buying this unless i can get an engine with better performance sorry toyota you fail 😊

[@mpiny]

Engine garbage

[@drive-channel1834]

Too bad the Kakadu gets that cheap looking & ugly outdated grill

[@chasingcars]

Yeah

[@Paradoxical124]

Old, slow and boring engine 🥱

[@dominickmiecik9549]

a Hybrid Petrol version for TOYOTA PRADO is total shit!!!

[@TA-wg9oi]

What a heap of sh!t Prado design..... Toyota told me 'take it or leave it' in buying a 300 cruiser...........so I went and bought a Patrol Warrior...Best decision I ever make.....and saved 40K

[@JamesWant]

Surely the vast majority of buyers would prefer a modern petrol hybrid that is more exciting to drive over an ageing diesel with more towing capacity. Especially when so many will never tow anything. Missed the mark imo.