Rescuing the SH282 with a DE6 - PRO ENGINEER PLAYS DERAIL VALLEY!

In this video, we use a DE6 to rescue my basically stranded steam engine and tell some railroad stories along the way... enjoy!

[@fernandomarques5166]

THe DE6 is a GM EMD G26C locomotive, it has a way too long fuel tank for it to be a G22C series and it can't be a GT series because it lacks the "hump" or the raised section in long hood that is needed to fit the turbocharger for the 645E3 engine. And yes, you're correct the placement of the engine in the long hood is actually reversed, the starter door of the G22/26 series should be near the radiator grilles.

[@Hyce777]

Glad someone had the inside scoop! Cheers mate.

[@fernandomarques5166]

No problem, the EMD G series was a common sight in the area I used to live when I was a kid, later in life I learned a lot about them.

[@Sleeper____1472]

thought this was a GE C40-8 (No Wide Nose so no W) or U-boat as its commonly called.

[@Hyce777]

@@Sleeper____1472 The engine screams EMD to me, personally.

[@garysprandel1817]

@@Hyce777 yep she's a slightly stylized EMD export G series. Export analog of the SD40 or SD40-2 IIRC.

[@MegaLokopo]

That's how you know you have a good boss. When they call the biohazard people instead of making you clean that up.

[@augustbilliau12321]

the biohazard person didnot have a good boss though because it was his day off

[@MegaLokopo]

@@augustbilliau12321 True, but i'm sure he atleast had the proper equipment which helps a lot.

[@Spanderson99]

Some proper “cowboy” switching in this one! Remote control makes this sort of thing a little easier. Im the same way though, I start throwing cars everywhere to “save time” and inevitably end up with a royal mess. I tried to running drop a cut of loaded explosive cars into the military base one time and the entire place went up. Didn’t play for a month after that one. Still keep coming back to this game though, looking forward to Simulator! Hopefully the DE6 will finally get some dynamic brakes for more train handling shenanigans.

[@Luftmysza.]

1 hour of DV with some one like Hyce is something I didn't deserve but still got

[@jaredstafford3354]

same

[@dirkus3722]

Scroll wheel works on doors, windows, switches, dials, breakers, etc. Much easier than drag-guessing :)

[@Hyce777]

I keep forgetting it's a mechanic... I'll learn one of these days, lol!

[@slanderedstone]

Ah yes, a long ass train out of the steel mill, many hours of headaches and suffering.

[@TBE_Industries]

Hyce: Talking about being a bad engineer because of not blowing the horn for crossings Also Hyce: running through the yard as the train goes on its own

[@Hyce777]

Well you know gotta save time and all that.... Lol!

[@TBE_Industries]

@@Hyce777 Fair enough. Cant argue with the pro engineer.

[@Mass_hole508]

Aside from all the jumping backing fourth and the jerky camera this was great to watch. As a truck driver i totally understand everything you did with the airbrakes while shunting. I just didn't realize it was even possible in this game. I've watched 4 or 5 different channels playing this but never seen anyone utilize the airbrakes the way you have. So it's been awesome to watch you doing this. 👍

[@notsonicefenu]

Not sure if anyone has said this, but as for the teleporting coal to your engine bit - the caboose has a career manager machine where you should be able to pay your locomotive's fees, and thus fill it with coal again. It would be more expensive though.

[@Hyce777]

Yup, i was down to a fantastic $9000 or so and it needed like 20K+ so it wasn't gonna happen this time hahaha

[@LordPhobos6502]

Every time I've seen pressure dials, old ones are in PSI, newer ones are in kPa. Often both. One dial had hectopascals, which is a funny way of saying 'bar' :p

[@DFX2KX]

"you know it's a bad day when someone walks into your office with earplugs in their nose" OMG, That poor pipe fitter, Rest in Peace. hahahahahahaha

[@FerrybigGaming]

30:38 The game does simulate the slack realistically. If you are in the locomotive going downwards using the independent brake, it compresses the train, making it more unstable as you derail close to the speed limits. If you use the train brake while applying throttle, you pull the train longer and can take turns at an higher speed. It is always funny to see people using the independent brake because they are just over the speed limit and seeing them derail

[@ChaoticNeutralMatt]

I was curious about this

[@connorreimer5314]

Also very glad to watch someone who really knows what he is doing play this game

[@LionkingCMSL]

As a fellow railroader from the northeast, I enjoyed the video. I've retired from Amtrak where I was a radio maintainer and I'm affiliated with the Cape May Seashore Lines, the reason for the "CMSL" in my name, a class 3 in South(ern New) Jersey. Before I started working for Amtrak I was a qualified engineer and conductor for the CMSL, where I ran BUDD RDCs as intended, F7s and a GP9. At the time the CMSL was more of a tourist line, but the owner ran and still does run a tight railroad. They run the NORAC operating rules and interchange with Conrail shared Assets, so we have to be on top of our game. I plan to buy your game so I hope to multiply with you at some point.

[@Hyce777]

That's excellent! Always fun to play with fellow railroaders. Particularly when we can swap stories. Would love to play with you and or just chat. Cheers!

[@ibrahimyoussef4263]

you can get a realism mod for the DE6 and DE2 engine that will make the amps matter and will run the engine on a more realistic scale of power for the EMD G16

[@jadotmoosman4136]

Not sure if someone else answered regarding the additional fees on the 067 at the end there, but it's emissions fees that can only be cleared at the career manager. Can hit the "print" button for a detailed breakdown. Also, in a recent update they added the job code to the identification placard on each car. Helps a lot splitting up multiple jobs at the destination now.

[@dilligafdude9434]

567ci cylinder or like my grandpa would say "Sumbitch is massive. Uses 55 gal drums for pistons!"

[@ChaosAgent1218]

that poor steam loco being put to shame by being rescued by a diesel

[@Hyce777]

Only because the simulation makes it use too much coal and doesn't give it enough in the tender :)

[@nextalcupfan]

The cutoff mod I mentioned in an earlier video drastically reduces the amount of coal and water the 282 uses as well. I've done a 2 hour gaming session pulling loads almost constantly and never refilled once. Actually IMO it's kinda too far in the other direction, but it is much less annoying than running out.

[@SnowLepGaming]

I have played derail valley once and it was fun. I did a job that was a haul for the shunter diesel and was maybe about 8 cars (been a long while since then hard to remember) that needed to be delivered to The Goods Factory And Town from the Harbor. The locomotive was already near the load so hook up was quick. Points from the harbor was set and i high balled out of the harbor. Trains and cars in derail valley seem to have a small room for "hang speed" which means that you can go 5 to 8khp higher while in a turn. Be aware that means two wheeling an entire train so bravery is advised! I did succeed in making the delivery although my speed on one of the straights was high enough the shunter could not read it out. Rip speedometer.

[@madeofstars0]

Small world and all, showing the woodward governor was neat, my dad has worked there forever engineering engine controls and such (mostly for power generation, but a tiny bit of locomotive too)

[@JonosBtheMC]

In the past, some locomotives in the UK had urinals. This was back in the days when locomotives required two crew. But it turned out, using the facilities at 75 MPH or more made it difficult to, shall we say, maintain one's aim. Corrosion became an issue and the urinals were removed.

[@nextalcupfan]

At the end of the video you can hit PRINT in the career manager while whatever you want to look at is highlighted and it will give you a sheet with details on all costs. As far as I know the only other cost after manual servicing is Emissions Fees.

[@jursh3936]

if your ever need more steam you can press the lever down on the floor next too the sand lever. i call it the coal eraser but it will keep your steam up as long as you have coal lol. i barely made it up that same hill pulling 1200t of steel tracks to the harbor. it was fun haha and scary cause its giving all its got.

[@garysprandel1817]

Subscribed. Kind of fun to watch DV being played by someone with some real world throttle time.

[@Hyce777]

Cheers Gary!

[@Zuiderzee-Lives]

The diesel looks like it’s supposed to be one of EMD’s GT22 or GT26 series export diesels. Kind of the 40-Series of the rest of the world, quite a few of them in Eastern Europe and the Balkans among other places.

[@zaklex3165]

Or it's a Skoda or some other Eastern European manufacturer design...don't feel like searching.

[@briannem.6787]

@@zaklex3165 No, the model was an american export.

[@marktheimmortal]

"I think the way to make more money is to spend more money". I like that. :-) Awesome video by the way! Didn't watch the whole thing but will put it on my watch later list to catch up on. Haven't played derail valley for about a year but want to get back into it. :-)

[@johnm9263]

starting a diesel engine acts nearly identically to a military generator because it basically is instead of providing power to other devices, it uses all of its own

[@Tylercm262]

Scientific metric units don't always line up with regular metric units. I remember a science teacher from like 6th or 7th grade mention that. And that somehow stuck with me.

[@michaelimbesi2314]

“The displacement of this engine is massive” *Laughs in marine diesel* (we have engines where the cylinder diameter is 900mm and the stroke is like 2m)

[@AcesDwn1]

I know I'm watching this almost 1.5 years after you posted it, but dang... I don't hang out for 1+ hour long vids normally.. Loved the attempts at kicking cars, and the issues you faced.. Not to mention hearing the stories of your real world experiences.. Owning an RV myself, I can attest to some "poop" issues.. 😂 But not on that scale!! HAHA Anyway, Great vid, and thanks for sharing your experiences! Going to Sub, and hope to hear more from you when DV Simulator releases in 3 weeks and 3 days from now... Was a great watch! 😎

[@Driver944S]

The scroll wheel is your friend in this game.

[@byrd203]

you could fill up your coal in the game if you run out by using the carrier manger in the caboose it will top off all builds reverse down hill then slam it up to speed go up the hills no no engine needed

[@christianealey1532]

I love train so you make me feel happy keep up the good work

[@Finnwolf88]

I had started your video, paused it while haulibg lumber to the sawmill, somehow managed to have a sibgle bogey derail and bring my train to a halt, had no money to rerail, brough the other job back up while shoveling coal like a madman, got the job done so I could rerail once i went back, shoveled like a madman once again and ran out of water just as I got my engine to a halt at the sawmill. Now its time for the de2 to rescue.

[@blackbirdgaming8147]

“Full of poo poo 18 inches deep.” -Hyce 2022

[@0ptera]

Today I learned how much crap the rl SD40 can carry and that you can overheat the de6. If you want to know what the fees at 1:03:30 are for, press print. Most of the time they are for pollution. The caboose prevents anything coupled to it from despawning, leaving the consist like this will block turn table and service station forever.

[@malice6081]

Pollution?

[@ChaoticNeutralMatt]

Cool to know about the caboose!

[@archis3030]

i thought the caboose had that machine where you pay the fees and other stuf. It would basically mean you can service the eng on the go.

[@Hyce777]

It does, when you have money to use it... Lol!

[@nicholasdiehl7368]

I love your game you made railroad online love it I'm buying it next

[@LilScrewmatic]

from what I've heard the DE6 is loosely based off an EMD G16

[@pqhkr2002]

Love your BNSF story. lol

[@bulletkin1899]

1 bar is 1x10^5 pascals. its used to make it more intuitive

[@Fantaman900]

Today I teleported without loco to buy the remote. Teleported out to find a job but only 1 steam loco I can't use. Teleported again to find another steam and 5 DE6 loco's I can't run. So I F walked across 2 mountains to find food factory with 2 DE2's I can use synced together and a long 2, long 1 and another long 1 job. Kinda smashed into 1 car a bit hard, getting used to multi task with remote. But man the remote is FFing nice for un/hooking up these long ass trains. Get 48 min bonus time, took me 70 minutes to get 3 jobs of containers to the harbor. For a total of almost 70k, minus 18/19k ish fees. Than you watch hyce struggle with a similar long train. Hint get the remote at the harbor and control the DE's from afar.

[@GeneralPurposeVehicl]

My father calls EoTDs "Don't hit me, stupid" lights.

[@misterfister8641]

17:27 the downward-triangle symbol communicates to anticipate the next speed limit to be lower than the one you're reading. You are indeed correct that gradient is conveyed by percentages.

[@trainanimator8150]

hyce i have a model 2-6-2 its ho scale but i want to tell you it can pull 25 cars with ease and you should keep telling us stories

[@werta5000]

don't worry Canada uses all the units. here in the great depth of hell that is the greater Assiniboine basin, you must know metric, SAE, and Imperial.

[@MrTcole221]

the amp meters are currently broken i belive, ive run like 5 DE6s, MUed and the amp meter doesnt move in any of them. something tells me its not implimented. also there is an unofficial multiplayer mod for the game

[@Hyce777]

oh really? that could be neat....

[@nextalcupfan]

@@Hyce777 Unfortunately the creator of the mod abandoned it some time ago, even when he was actively working on it you could really only use the DE2. And even that was pretty bad with players/loco rubber banding everywhere. Even on the official discord whenever someone asks about the multiplayer mod everyone basically tells them it won't work.

[@Hyce777]

@@nextalcupfan ah bummer. A mod adding multiplayer sounded a little too good to be true anyhow...

[@ChaoticNeutralMatt]

@@nextalcupfan I'm curious how they fudged it to "work" in the first place

[@nextalcupfan]

@@ChaoticNeutralMatt actually i keep seeing it pop up in the DV Discord so someone may have picked it back up.

[@aapjeaaron]

A bar is mainly used when talking about fluid pressures. Its also no longer the atmospheric pressure but equal to 100 000 pascals. Due to this whether reports might use milli bars or hecto pascals interchangably. You'll never use bars for stress though. Thats all in pascals. Or even just written N/(m)m².

[@olivertripp5412]

We're not using pascal for stress etc., we're using newton/kilonewton in the metric system most of the time.

[@Hyce777]

Newtons are units of force, stress is in units of pressure ;) hence why I said Pascals. A force that induces stress would certainly be in N in metric though :)

[@vaporisedair4919]

For fluid pressure we use bar in europe, typically it’s more convenient as its very close to atm. For stresses typically some thousand multiple of Pa.

[@Hyce777]

That makes sense.

[@Kabluey2011]

Avoided a train wreck on this one. Another great video. Love it 😀 😍

[@mattalford3932]

When that add UK stuff to US trains it breaks my brain lol.

[@Geschrotteten]

over here in luxemburg europe, everybody uses "bar" too

[@austin.5947]

The devs do plan on adding a save file system. But because the simulator update got delayed, it will take a while longer for it to come out.

[@shonepalmer7039]

You mentioned how you wish DV was multiplayer.. there is a mod for it. You should look it up!

[@StrikerV3]

I think i’m going to add the mod that increases coal and water in the tender now after you have given me this info. Thought it burned coal quite fast for what i was doing.

[@Hyce777]

I mean, it still does burn fast, but yeah the capacity is way weird haha

[@bjrnfrederiksson2505]

I just laughed hard 🤣😂 when you screamed like a girl because the train came to fast for your liking. 55:59 I love the way you talk and explain about your knowledge of the narrow gauge trains and the realism of this game. How you shunt the wagons and I love it. Besides when are you going to do a co-op with Kan again?

[@Hyce777]

Later today ;)

[@bjrnfrederiksson2505]

@@Hyce777 noooo. I'm gonna sit here now and wait for the video 🐻🤟🏻

[@Hyce777]

@@bjrnfrederiksson2505 I wouldn't just sit and wait my POV is a fair bit out :P hahahaha

[@bjrnfrederiksson2505]

@@Hyce777 fair enough. I'd do my routine and wait. Dinner is ready here in Denmark 🇩🇰 1835 now. Thanks Mark, have a great day.

[@Hyce777]

@@bjrnfrederiksson2505 cheers :) have a good evening. Video has about 45 minutes left to render, then upload, so I'd guess it will be up in around 4 hours.

[@IndustrialParrot2816]

the DE6 look more like a General Electric U-boat too me since it doesn't have the EMD standard cab

[@thesealsharkproductions9780]

I agree, maybe the U30B?

[@strike9716]

This happens to me every single time I try to use the steam engine.

[@connorreimer5314]

The remote is good because you can couple and uncouple specific cars with one button

[@Hyce777]

Oh really? That's super handy. I guess I should go get one haha

[@themidnightbanshee5927]

I notice that none of the locomotives have a chair even in Railroads online some locos don't have anywhere to take a seat and rest also pascal's and bars are interchangeable a bar is a 100 000 pascal's if I remember correctly if you're using bars it usually refers to pressure of a gas like we measure tire pressure in bars not pascal's also gas pressure in tanks it's just one of those it exists so we don't have to say something like 0.5 megapascals no you say 5 bars Also 1 bar is approximately the average atmospheric pressure at sea level

[@BeezyKing99]

"i know they have a remote for that, but i keep jumping out to get it"- perhaps that'll be from playing RRO?... *Habits Die Hard* P.S. This game is VR compatible with Quest 2 (makes the realism more interesting) and you ACTUALLY have the ability to use your controllers as hands (NOT FUNCTIONAL HANDS, but rather outlines of your Touch controllers) to do the brake line connection and hitching much faster/quicker.

[@Hyce777]

I've played in VR before, it is a lot of fun. My headset is still packed up somewhere from a move though...

[@brandonguillory242]

great video

[@lordsrednuas]

17:30 that symbol means the next speed limit is lower so if you're doing 120 you should be slowing down.

[@Damnedfish.]

Lower by 20km/h or more (usually only 20km/h). More than just a 10km/h difference

[@colbywhitmore564]

The AMP gauge currently doesn't work. Until the next update, it is hard to tell how much amps the locomotive is generating.

[@Darius_Vanhorn]

You don't need to have a license for the controller, just the necessary finances to buy it from a shop at the steal mill

[@magn1220]

i have fotos of a german/danish mashine of all of the controls. and some of the exterrior. if you want em the engene is called "ffj nr. 34" and it runs in Aalborg, Danmark)

[@mdtransmissionspecialties]

Is this a game you have to have internet to play? Love your videos man. Be safe out there!

[@Hyce777]

Nope, you can play it offline.

[@Cowboywalt]

On some things in the game you can just scroll to move it

[@JackSparrow-hh2lh]

pretty fun to watch. But for my own curiosity: wouldn't it have been easier to use a DE2 shunter to first pull the steam loco away, then one by one but the cars in the right place? less "dead weight" to deal with

[@Hyce777]

Probably would've been easier but I didn't feel like getting another engine running hahaha

[@pqhkr2002]

Well planed kick car switching is a pure fun. If do it right, you may throw 3 cut of train cars and the locomotive in 4 different tracks without bring the locomotive into stop and change direction.

[@kielcarson6776]

Just in reference to your accidental sorting mishap, D-5-O would mean D-5 Outbound. A-5-I would be A-5 Inbound. So you'd know if you're delivering to a track with an O at the end, you're probably looking at the wrong instructions. I used to do the same thing all the time until I realized there's a reason behind the O and I

[@pqhkr2002]

And there are S(storage) track, and L(load) track, LH jobs usually start or end in S track, Shunting jobs usually start from I or S, unload or load at L, end in S or O.

[@tuberoyful]

I play this on ultra its scary real!

[@meneldil7604]

i thought pressure would be measured in psi

[@tanujayelale2180]

hey hyce! just a quick thing about the rpm, it is accurate. it says x10 right above the word rpm

[@Dracopendragon013]

I think he was talking about how high the needle was going since it was going all the way to the 10 instead of stopping at the 9.

[@Hyce777]

Dracopendragon013 is right, the fact that it goes past 9 (900) is a little odd, and the idle is really low. Very small nitpick on my end ;)

[@daveb.4383]

If you paid your fee's before the job, you would have a full load of coal and water to start with on the job if you did not know that ahead of time? Your story about the Toilet was a riot by the way! As far as I can tell the Military cargo is the highest paying when I took a look at those jobs outside of the base in one of the yards.

[@Hyce777]

I did, but I blew through all the coal before this auto saved hahaha

[@lordsherifftakari4127]

the Tender on the Mike should be a bit longer and certainly hold more coal. Mikado's are not short haul loco's

[@MegaLokopo]

Have you thought about printing out the manuals and station maps?

[@Hyce777]

That would be handy, but lord knows my desk is already such a mess... Lol

[@MegaLokopo]

@@Hyce777 Yea I was thinking if I played I would pin it on my wall like a calender but that depends on your desk setup. So much flipping through papers. lol

[@Damnedfish.]

@luke thomas - Visifix Rotary (but bigger)? Would be so cool

[@MegaLokopo]

@@Damnedfish. that's a good idea, although that adds an extra step if you want to see 2 maps side by side.

[@Damnedfish.]

@luke thomas Yeah. I suppose. But can't do it in the game either. Gotta flick between overall station view and the specific area. Personally I'd have each station overview physically beside me. And still use the ingame for each area.

[@FerrybigGaming]

12:45 The train has an positive air brake system, it needs an air compressor

[@Hyce777]

Of course, i just forgot that i left the diesel with a compressor attached the whole time... Lol! That said there's no physical model of one on the engine...

[@AlexanderBurgers]

The steam locomotive has the boiler pressure somehow feed into the brake system, if you drop the boiler below 4 bar, the cars start dragging.

[@Hyce777]

@@AlexanderBurgers lol... that's neat

[@kevinbeach3621]

Have you not bought the remote for the diesels yet? You could control the DE6 from the steamer if you had it.

[@Hyce777]

Not yet! I never had a reason for it... Lol!

[@jqb6XD]

Old video but 1 millibar = 1 hectopascal, so it is actually a metric unit :)

[@rudragopalmukkala2018]

both the engines can haul about 1000 tons and the amount of tons the cargo is on the job sheet

[@ALPHABEASTACE]

There's a remote in the store u can use to drive the rear

[@Hyce777]

Check out my other videos, I bought the remote and had lots of fun with it.

[@Dallen9]

Diesels.... The diesel you use looks pretty close to the one I got to drive so.... Eh... The location of the starter and the rest of the stuff does depend on Manufacturer but everyone uses the same control system..... Cause GE owns all the patients

[@Jopsyduck]

You can use the mouse wheel to open doors

[@EmissionGaming]

You can just use the Mouse Wheel to open and close things =]

[@witty8002]

I dont think the caboose can take damage. I've derailed it twice and it's "health" never dropped

[@ashleyhecker4148]

when you pay to repair the tender, which can be done in the caboose, it will also completely refill on coal and water

[@Hyce777]

Indeed, I just did not have the cash to make that happen :)

[@farmsimfan7160]

Hey hyce you can open doors and cabinets in derail valley with you scroll wheel

[@byrd203]

this game is multiplayer there's a multi player mod add-on you install yes there is one

[@wowarchershirou]

iirc that blower valve is for when still the level tot he right opens air for when moving :D

[@Hyce777]

Blower works for both ;)

[@jamesTBurke]

With that being an American dollar sign I presume that was 3000 lbs coal and gallons no liters

[@byrd203]

you could control the loco if you have the remote the deisel remote go to the blue shop at machine factory and town by the passenger station you can control any loc that's a diesel locomotive in game just use the left ALT and mouse power it on then hit pair loco while standing in that loco there u go

[@augustbilliau12321]

the DE6 might be a EMD SD40-2 or an EMD GP38-2

[@Knsgf]

EMD G16 has more similarities.

[@augustbilliau12321]

@@Knsgf but the g16 looks like a french fry

[@Hyce777]

Having worked extensively with both GP38's and SD40's i can confidently say it is neither.

[@augustbilliau12321]

@@Hyce777 what's your favorite locomotive Hyce?

[@augustbilliau12321]

now when I see more of the locomotive I also see a G16

[@MRrailaway]

14:20 cant you "service" the steam loc from the caboose carreer manager? Thereby refueling it?

[@Hyce777]

You can, if you have enough cash... Lol!

[@andrewp6387]

Can you tell me why blowing air to brake damages the car? I'm a civilian who loves everything trains

[@p75369]

I did the same thing, each of the shunters can pull 400t, so if I use two I can take 600t of steel to machine town? Oh there's a hill... and I'm stuck >_

[@Bendigo1]

The wheight that each engine can pull is for level ground. If you add grade, the wheight you can pull drops substantially. I had to use 6 shunters to (barely) pull 800 tonnes up a 2% grade. If 400T per engine was correct for al grades, i could have pulled it with 2 or 3.

[@TheSecretman82]

14:13 Doesn't the Caboose let you do exactly that? Despite it making no sense?

[@onewhosaysgoose4831]

1676 put the "duty" in Special Duty

[@cljames152]

hey Hyce are you gong to mod in steam loco models from rro into derail valley when the new update drops making adding locos and rolling stock easier?

[@Hyce777]

Look your comment did work! Haha. No, as we said in discord.