Hydrofoil SE300 Sport install + BEFORE and AFTER TEST - How to Install Hydro Foil Whale Tail

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Quick tips on how to install a Hydrofoil SE300 "whale tail" along with some water testing. This is on my 1999 Sea Ray 215 EC that has an alpha one. `
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[@NoNonsenseKnowHow]

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[@timmorris3056]

2 things we see right away. Although the SE foil is a Top Brand, You got the SE300, that is too small for your boat weight. There's an SE400 with more surface area for lift pressure. #2: Everyone forgets that once you install a Wing, You become a Pilot, you must now Aim that wing with motor trim up or down to dive or lift, and adjust as your speed increases or decreases. Those that say they didn't notice a difference, or that it actually slowed their boat, did not aim the wing, and/or were using an inferior knockoff product. Stick with the SE brand, get the right size for the weight and even go 1 size larger if possible, it will get that lead ass out of the water. Trim tabs only change leveling stability by asserting down force against the water surface, thus creating drag and losing performance, not a good option. Stick with the SE foils. 35 years in business, several hundred installed, only 2 returned, (they used them as a ladder step and broke...no no) 👍😁👍

[@NoNonsenseKnowHow]

Thanks, I appreciate your tips man. I didn't realize that this one is rated for a smaller boat. I got it for basically half price so I decided to grab it. If you watch the end of the video I did talk about trimming up and down. But I guess I should have talked more about it. Yes, trim up until you get to that sweet spot. The hydrofoil has been great. Maybe I'll try out an SE400 to see if there's any difference and do a video on it in the future. Thanks again for the tip and comment

[@jeralddegraw6069]

GREAT comment...VERY helpful in BOTH...no, 3 ways !!!

[@alex8449]

what about putting stainless screws in an aluminium leg and in salt water

[@kosonenkosonen9278]

@@alex8449 ive never had any issues. anodes should help i would assume?

[@Fulcrum205]

@@alex8449 best practice is to alodine and prime the holes and dip the bolts in chromate primer when you install them. That said, the zinc anode will help protect from galvanic corrosion

[@jeralddegraw6069]

This is an EXCELLENT video...just what I was looking for ! Thanks !!!

[@NoNonsenseKnowHow]

Thanks man! Happy to hear you found it helpful.

[@benbutlerfishing]

I love having a shallow water holeshot and a quick holeshot as well, so I put a 4 blade and a hydrofoil on my Bass Tracker with a 50hp on it. I could raise the motor, but I don't feel like re-adjusting that. But, now I can jump up on plain in 2ft of water, and have no bow rise.

[@Billyd4Reel]

Now THIS is how to make a video review. Great job! Helped me make a decision on this hydrofoil.

[@NoNonsenseKnowHow]

Thanks, I appreciate the feedback. Did you decide to pick one up?

[@Billyd4Reel]

@@NoNonsenseKnowHow already ordered! Really appreciate the vid! Had one on my old bowrider and really liked it. This is the newer version so the review helped. Take care and I will watch out for your future stuff!

[@NoNonsenseKnowHow]

Awesome! Good luck with that. Let me know how you make out. And yeah hugely appreciate you checking out any videos. Really helps out the channel. Thanks so much!

[@tomgia1964]

Yaa that’s Was great 👍 I got mine off changing out the lore unit , I definitely want it back on 👍

[@NoNonsenseKnowHow]

Thanks man. Certainly wasn't the most in-depth comparison video but I feel like it gets the point across. Hydrofoil for the win

[@dancaptain2055]

Thanks for the video, I have used the StingRay Senior hydrofoil for years, a lot of fuel is consumed from your hole shot so it’s nice getting on plane quicker.

[@boydownunder007]

Good to get the actual numbers even tho rough was something to go on. I have an 18foot ski boat with a 140hp johnson motor and so will definitely try one of these out for a season will see if I like it can always remove if I don't like it:) thanks for bothering to post - great work

[@NoNonsenseKnowHow]

Awesome, good luck with it. They definitely make a noticeable difference! And thanks man

[@williamandersen6484]

Had a doyle fin on my 19' Bayliner bowrider for 20 years. Not only faster to plane but planed at lower speed and stayed on plane longer when slowing down, Great for wakeboarding. Trim tabs are better but cost hundreds.

[@koyaanisqatsi316]

For a small boat you can run Smart Tabs. They work great and not that expensive.

[@keithbrown2458]

Nice job thank you for the info well done

[@NoNonsenseKnowHow]

No problem and thanks for taking the time to drop a comment Keith

[@dholli2]

Completely randomly found this video. I'm from the area and we're out there all the time, from coopers to Philly

[@erichelland133]

Thanks for the vid,excellent.

[@NoNonsenseKnowHow]

No problem man, thanks!

[@erichelland133]

just ordered on amazon,gotta love amazon,lol

[@javiertrevizo9761]

Thank you good video

[@roaddog1973]

Had one. Took it off and swapped it for trim tabs. Never been happier. Trim tabs perform way better and don't put stress on your drive.

[@NoNonsenseKnowHow]

Never thought about the stress on the stern drive. Good point you bring up! May get trim tabs one day. But not on this boat

[@bencoleman1893]

I have both and makes my boat handle amazing

[@907dan5]

How does this create more stress then what the outdrive is already creating??? It's already propelling the whole boat.

[@roaddog1973]

@@907dan5 With a hydrofoil on the drive, whether it be an outboard or an I/O its now transferring vertical lift to the drive. This is placing stress on the mounting bracket of an outboard, or the transom collar of an I/O. Neither of these were really designed to handle vertical force. Trim tabs, whether they are smart tabs, electric or hydraulic are all mounted directly on the hull. The hull handles the force of the vertical lift, not the drive components.

[@TrickyGomez]

@@roaddog1973 I had the two piece version a 85' Evinrude 80hp for twenty years and never had a problem like you describe. These work and work well... At least mine did. Just bought one of these for my recently purchased boat.

[@crossfirephotography]

Thanks Fantastic Video

[@NoNonsenseKnowHow]

Thanks man and no prob

[@adamlivelife2608]

You also need a 4 blade prop, they work awesome for getting heavier loads on plane or pulling

[@NoNonsenseKnowHow]

I tried one out and felt like it made the boat More sluggish

[@Graystoak-OG]

Thanks man. This helped out alot. I'm also on the delaware by the way lol. Peace and see ya out there.

[@NoNonsenseKnowHow]

No problem man, happy to hear you found it useful. And that's cool! See you on the water

[@Graystoak-OG]

@@NoNonsenseKnowHow If ya see a 21 Dixi walk around with steady as we go across the Stern waving thats us 😁

[@NoNonsenseKnowHow]

@@Graystoak-OG okay man!

[@Foxtucky]

Youyou should also invest into a 4 blade prop if your having trouble getting on plane

[@bouldernelsonbigfoot]

i love my Davis Hydrofoil.

[@TBrownRecords]

You made a nice video

[@NoNonsenseKnowHow]

Thanks buddy. :)

[@michaelvonlehe1260]

I have the exact same boat! I bought trim tabs but I haven’t put them on yet.

[@NoNonsenseKnowHow]

Awesome. Let me know how you make out with the trim tabs! Curious to know if they make a big difference on the 215. Absolutely great boat! I love mine. Wish I had fuel injection and a swim deck though

[@whosurdaddyds650]

Return it and get trim tabs or 4 blade prop. I had them on all my boats that previous owners had them on and they work but slowed top speed by 3 to 4 mph on the top end. 4 blade prop make a huge difference both out of the whole and i didnt loose top speed.

[@NoNonsenseKnowHow]

I bought it on Facebook Marketplace for half price. I enjoy what it did to my boat. And I didn't lose any top speed at all. I tried a 4 blade that my brother had and it made my boat Ultra slow out of the hole. Maybe it wasn't the right pitch but it was terrible

[@whosurdaddyds650]

Having good luck 4 blade turning point props. Run the same pitch as ur 3 blade what on ur boat now for the 4 blade. Lower number for out of the hole 17pitch . 21 pitch for top speed.

[@clarencewiles963]

Thumbs up 👍 it’s a yes 👏

[@mmonte60]

Hey great viseo! I have the exact same boat, we are going to need a new prop. Any recommendations? We prefer handling/ stability over top speed if that helps. Thansk!

[@jeansandmyshirt]

great video thank you. could you please tell me if hydrofoil would be beneficial for my 6hp 4stroke outboard? its on a 10ft inflatable dinghy. some say hydrofoils are only good for 10+ hp outboads anything smaller is a waste of money and will slow down the boat.

[@NoNonsenseKnowHow]

To be honest I've never tried one on a small motor like that so I couldn't tell you for sure. But I would tend to agree that I don't think it would change much when you're dealing with under 10 horsepower. If you happen to give it a go, let me know how it works out. Thanks for your comment and sorry I couldn't be of more assistance

[@kosonenkosonen9278]

i run the same hydrofoil on my 4.4m tiller steer tinny with a 40hp.

[@yanadrianaa]

I have a 24 feet boat with a Volvo penta 5.7 300 hp , should I go with the 300 model or the 400 ??

[@MRJK87.]

My grandpa had a whale fin on his previous boat. May help performance but when water skiing, it was rough

[@NoNonsenseKnowHow]

Good point you bring up. Never thought about it making a rougher wake

[@MRJK87.]

@@NoNonsenseKnowHow it changed the shape of his wake. Yours on the other hand makes the exact same one as without it. His fin was a little different. I don't know how yours feels, I would need to ski on it myself both ways to know what yours does.

[@NoNonsenseKnowHow]

Yeah I was going to say, it looks fairly similar with the before and after in this video. I haven't skied behind it since putting the fin on though

[@Bansheeboat]

Nice install video! How did you find the hydrofoil?

[@NoNonsenseKnowHow]

thanks! got it on FB marketplace

[@matthewsmith501]

I’m near you nice video. I’m 30 min away

[@NoNonsenseKnowHow]

Thanks man. and cool, maybe see ya on the Delaware some time!

[@bluegoose6913]

He is in the water at 4:34.

[@RodrinBird]

That is one nice looking hydrofoil! Newbie boater here.. I have a 14' SIB dinghy so for me, it might be different but.. How does one know when the boat is on plane? Is it by the water pattern the propeller leaves on plane vs not on plane or simply by feeling the bow come down?

[@NoNonsenseKnowHow]

Not sure what the technical answer is, but for me it's always been when you feel the bow rest down, you're on plane and it's time to to set your trim up a touch. I didn't like the white at first, but I loved it now since you can see it clearly when you're swimming around the stern drive. Makes for a good step as well! Even though they say you're not supposed to step on it.

[@NoNonsenseKnowHow]

A lot of new boaters don't realize that once the boats on plane, you have to trim it up a little bit for Optimum performance and speed.

[@RodrinBird]

@@NoNonsenseKnowHow Right.. I'm just not sure if I'd be able to trim my Yamaha f9.9, not sure if I can do that with a little engine.. maybe the bigger outboards allow it?

[@NoNonsenseKnowHow]

Oh, I didn't realize it was that small. Does it have power tilt trim? I'm guessing not

[@RodrinBird]

@@NoNonsenseKnowHow No it doesn't. some models of Yamaha do though.. not this one I have

[@Sky360Phoenix]

I've just recently got the SE Sport 200 for my mercury 15hp 4 stroke. It was driving me "nuts" to know where to place the rubber washers. In between the hydrofoil and cavitation plate? or underneath the cavitation plate followed by small washers and lock nuts? The package came with bugger all instructions. Cant even get onto the official SE Sports website. And other KZbin videos out there show them putting the bolts in from underneath the cavitation plate with the nuts and metal washers on top. Christ I wish someone could set the record straight. I even phoned a marine outlet and they told me to place the rubber washers on top of the hydrofoil and then thread the bolts thru. Unbelievable.That's darn crazy. Anyways I like what you have done and so I shall place them in between the hydrofoil and cavitation plate. However does this not leave a sliver of a gap? What about having them go underneath followed by metal washers and nuts? Any Nasa or Aeronautical engineers out there please feel free to comment. 😃

[@NoNonsenseKnowHow]

I feel like in between makes most sense especially since the mating surfaces are not perfectly conformed to each other. The rubber soaks up the variation. Not really too concerned with The Gap. Seems to work well

[@andreaceniccola9340]

The whistle i can hear is due to the hydrofoil?

[@ViNguyen-cc4lt]

how did you do it can you share with me , thank you

[@AlexGarcia-ew2fv]

Ive installed those on 5 different boats ive had and in all of them ive lost between 2 n 3 mph on top end

[@NoNonsenseKnowHow]

Interesting. As you can see on my boat that wasn't the case. Must be the prop I have on there in combination with the engine?

[@Jango975]

Nononsenceknowhow what model boat is that ???

[@NoNonsenseKnowHow]

It's a Sea Ray 215 Express Cruiser

[@thedutchfisherman7078]

Does it also elimnate boat leaning?

[@NoNonsenseKnowHow]

Great question, but know you would need trim tabs to help correct that

[@thedutchfisherman7078]

@@NoNonsenseKnowHow Yes I know but I was just wondering if a hydrofoil maybe eliminates a bit. I don`t have that lot of leaning.

[@Natter20002]

My boat (a 95 Sundancer 250) leans a lot. Get her level on plane and get a gust and it leans. Windy days I have to play with it a lot. I have trim tabs on that though.

[@crashtestdummie67]

WTF? Did not expect top speed increase....

[@ranuiporter7072]

2pm ok

[@Alreadygone73]

Try smart tabs

[@justinwhite8009]

What's trim up and trimmed?

[@NoNonsenseKnowHow]

Excellent question. I should have went into more detail about that in the video. The trim is the angle that the stern drive is at. Probably best to just look up another video about trim to fully understand it honestly. Always trim all the way down to get the boat up on plane and then slightly trim up for Optimum performance once on plane. And trim up in Shallow Waters slow speed. But not too far up because then that causes damage to the U-joints

[@justinwhite8009]

Good to know thanks!

[@CalvinCai_Frisbee]

try 4 blade prop?

[@NoNonsenseKnowHow]

I did try a 4 blade. I wasn't happy with it and I actually lost a couple miles an hour

[@sheltav64]

My Maria came with one so I just left it.

[@Pendragon501]

Is $35 worth such a marginal gain and putting 4 holes in the outdrive...

[@NoNonsenseKnowHow]

It was an experiment. So yes totally worth it. Plus I don't know if you saw in the video but that sterndrive has a repair that has been welded before. And to fill in those holes with my TIG welder would take me 10 minutes if that. Hope that answers your concern

[@J_M3444]

I’m thoroughly shocked that boat has a tough time getting on plane loaded with people. 21’ with a 350 you’d think it’d shoot right out of the hole

[@hildablanco1591]

With a 1971 trs drive and a 460 ford engine you will fly

[@NoNonsenseKnowHow]

Yeah she's a big heavy turd. Only a two barrel 350 as well

[@gunnerneikoify]

Higher pitch prop would of done the same thing and been the "proper" way to take care of your problem.

[@NoNonsenseKnowHow]

I tried a higher pitch prop. It was much slower out of the hole

[@gunnerneikoify]

@NoNonsenseKnowHow Whaaaat, that makes almost zero sense. Slower out of the water with a higher pitch prop, faster out of the water with a lower pitch prop!?!?!? From a physics standpoint, that doesn't seem possible.

[@mdgoonrider1438]

Get yourself a stainless prop and you’ll see better results overall

[@AquaMarine1000]

This might be called a hydrofoil but it's not but an extension to the anti cavition plate.

[@NoNonsenseKnowHow]

true.

[@AquaMarine1000]

@@NoNonsenseKnowHow A true hydrofoil would be like the Stingray Classic.

[@NoNonsenseKnowHow]

gotya. Well I wouldn't call it a "HydroFail" atleast. ;) I'm pretty happy with its performance

[@AquaMarine1000]

@@NoNonsenseKnowHow Either way it's the performance that counts. Cheers

[@NoNonsenseKnowHow]

@@AquaMarine1000 cheers buddy!

[@Surfercurtis]

Will this work on my 7 foot dingy?

[@NoNonsenseKnowHow]

I'm not sure it would be beneficial on a small dinghy

[@BBD40]

Nothing will help your dingy

[@melonboi186]

What boat is that?

[@MrDavidelliottjr]

All in the prop. Def put a stainless prop. That aluminum prop is junk. I'd keep that for emergency.

[@NoNonsenseKnowHow]

I used to have a Vengeance prop. But I've heard horror stories from stainless steel tearing up outdrives when you didn't log. Lot of logs floating on the river here

[@MrDavidelliottjr]

@@NoNonsenseKnowHow they don't. The aluminum prop is fatter to be stronger. It bucks the water more. Trust me. Stainless is way better. I'm in a boat every day of the week

[@stevejones9832]

I work at a marina and I can guarantee stainless does more damage to gears and shafts upon striking objects. Everyone around the islands were I am run aluminum.

[@NoNonsenseKnowHow]

Yeah Steve I'm definitely with you on this one. Stainless might be a touch faster but aluminum is the way to go if objects in the water are a concern

[@wiks101]

Those before and after numbers are statistically insignificant and that Hydrofoil did not help at all - if this made any difference the MFR's would have these on by default

[@deplorablechump8758]

Not much different

[@t.s.4734]

Soooo Seems to do nothing really well I saved 40$!