Hydrofoil Shimming Explained: Baseplate and Stabiliser Shimming Gide

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Gav @Hydrofoil Academy

Gav @Hydrofoil Academy

Күн бұрын

In this comprehensive tutorial, we'll walk you through the process of shimming a hydrofoil like a pro. Whether you're an experienced hydrofoil enthusiast looking to fine-tune your setup or a beginner eager to optimize your foiling experience, this guide has you covered.
🔧 What You'll Learn:
What is shimming and why it matters for hydrofoiling
Tools and materials you'll need for the job
Step-by-step instructions to shim your hydrofoil
Tips and tricks for achieving the perfect ride
Testing and adjusting your setup for optimal performance
Whether you're into kite foiling, wake foiling, surf foiling, or SUP foiling, understanding how to shim your hydrofoil can make a world of difference in your ride. Don't miss out on this valuable knowledge - hit that subscribe button and let's get started!
🎥 Chapters:
0:00 - Introduction
0:48 - What does a stablizer do?
2:28 - What is stabiliser shimming?
2:15 - Why do we Shim?
4:28 - Examples of when to shim a stabiliser
6:36 - Final point of Stabiliser shimming
7:18 - Base plate shimming
8:30 - What does base plate shimming do
9:35 - Examples of baseplate shimming
11:47 - Conclusion and Tips
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@joemiller8029
@joemiller8029 Ай бұрын
this video was incredibly helpful, thanks!
@hydrofoilacademy
@hydrofoilacademy Ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@blooskyy7
@blooskyy7 4 ай бұрын
Great explanation, thanks for sharing
@hydrofoilacademy
@hydrofoilacademy 4 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@smytharmstrong8543
@smytharmstrong8543 8 ай бұрын
Thanks very much or this video -- instructional, educational and entertaining. For paddle ups and super low wind winging I will put the thick part of the shim at back of the mast. I also have a large HA foil that rides nose down so I'll try the opposite and put the thick part of the shim at the front and see if the board rides more level. Great videos! Keep them coming.
@hydrofoilacademy
@hydrofoilacademy 8 ай бұрын
Super glad you like them. Definitely play around with this, it makes a huge difference.
@tsipporah87
@tsipporah87 8 ай бұрын
Thank you for the video. Been playing around a lot with the tail shimming on the Armstrong APF because my track box on the board is too far back for the pump foil. Recently got a 3D printed mast shim, can’t wait to try it out.
@hydrofoilacademy
@hydrofoilacademy 8 ай бұрын
That's exactly where a shim can help! I've got an Armstrong APF on the way. Can't wait to try it.
@simonm7776
@simonm7776 8 ай бұрын
Very good
@hydrofoilacademy
@hydrofoilacademy 8 ай бұрын
Thank you mate!
@brantfredrickson4766
@brantfredrickson4766 8 ай бұрын
Thank you for your video. I'm a windfoiler and use negative 3.5 degrees of board shim to help me not catiplut on touchdowns. Its interesting to see you do the opposite in your disipline. There is a local kite foiler who does the same as you and rides in the nose down position at full throttle.
@hydrofoilacademy
@hydrofoilacademy 8 ай бұрын
Yes, in full send, putting a shim at the front will make the ride more comfortable. Glad you are enjoying the videos.
@karchexdziadkowo1866
@karchexdziadkowo1866 2 күн бұрын
good thing I found your video. I only use it for wingfoil. when there is less wind and I would have to have a bigger front wing. what to change to make the set with a smaller front wing work like with a bigger one. easier to lift. Greetings from Polan
@hydrofoilacademy
@hydrofoilacademy 2 күн бұрын
If you shim the tail for more angle of incidence that will give more lift for the same size. The drawback will be it won’t be as efficient and it will be slower (more drag).
@karchexdziadkowo1866
@karchexdziadkowo1866 Күн бұрын
and if I put plates under the rear screws (positive angle), won't it make lifting easier in weaker winds? better option?? I measured the angles. the foil and the board are parallel and then the nose of the board clearly goes up. Thanks
@kountchev1
@kountchev1 8 ай бұрын
thanks for sharing! does that mean one could get away with a smaller front wing for given wind strength? which mast plate shims (brandwise) are you using? it'd be fun to test the your revelations. KEEP THEM coming!! thanxx Jordan
@hydrofoilacademy
@hydrofoilacademy 8 ай бұрын
Hi Jordan, Thanks for the kind words! Yes, thats exactly why I shim. So I can use a smaller foil than I would need otherwise. I had a friend 3D print them for me but I hear the Armstrong ones are really good. For a super cheap option, go to your local hardware store and get some washers. Glue them together and place them under the back bolts to the mast. It doesn’t look as good but it works just fine. I did this for a year or so before I got my fancy ones.
@kountchev1
@kountchev1 8 ай бұрын
@@hydrofoilacademy thanx! as this is new territory for me: you mean shim the entire mast and not bother for the stab only?
@cartender9200
@cartender9200 9 күн бұрын
Great Video ! I still dont understand what is the difference between shimming and moving mast. If for example my nose wants to go down , why shim it positive and not move mast forward? Thank you in advance!
@hydrofoilacademy
@hydrofoilacademy 8 күн бұрын
Shimming has an impact on lift and drag. Moving the mast does not. If you want to make the gear more efficient or slow it down and produce more lift, this is when you would shim. Most people shim negatively, to take drag away and make the foil faster. I would move the mast forward to compensate for the reduced front foot pressure in this case. Hope that helps.
@cartender9200
@cartender9200 8 күн бұрын
@@hydrofoilacademy Thank you very much :)
@Louardoul
@Louardoul 6 ай бұрын
Amazing video. I thought that the front wing was always lifting the foil, and I discover that the front wing causes the nose to pitch down. But I have a question: when the speed increases, the lift force becomes greater, whereas the weight of the front wing doesn't change. Does it accelerate the pitching effect, or the reverse? When I'm on my foil, the faster I ride, the more pressure I feel on my front foot: why? Is it due to the stabilizer or to the front Wing?
@hydrofoilacademy
@hydrofoilacademy 5 ай бұрын
Good question! OK so you are correct, the weight is a constant, this never changes. As speed increases, the lift (and drag) also increases. Both the stabiliser AND the front wing produce more lift. The pitching down force (only the flow off the rear of the foil - the CofG does not change) also increases but not at the same magnitude. The force you are feeling at higher speeds is the lift from both the front foil and the tail.
@TheSmarquez
@TheSmarquez 2 ай бұрын
I just got a Cabrinha X1950 out of my foils, all my riding experience and boards have it mounted in the right position, getting up on foil and massive amounts of speed, for the life of me I could not understand why I keep losing altitude, I have to work some much to keep the board from touching down, it will immediately recover if I weight back and pitch the board up, but on all other foils/boards I don’t have to do this. Also it’s a bigger foil than some of my others, at lower speeds that other foils can glide, this one needs more complete pitch resulting in a stall. I feel after watching this video I need to shim the stabilizer to increase the angle of incidence for more static lift. Does this sound like the solution @hydrofoilacademy
@hydrofoilacademy
@hydrofoilacademy 2 ай бұрын
It sounds like you need more stability in pitch, so either bigger stabliser, or shim the current one. You could also try moving the mast forward too, but not at the same time. Change one thing and see how that goes.
@colinernst820
@colinernst820 8 ай бұрын
If you shim the stabilizer with a positive shim will it help the board fly more level from the nose up position it currently flies in or does that have to be done with a base plate shim? Thanks for the video it is very educational. I appreciate the work.
@hydrofoilacademy
@hydrofoilacademy 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for the kind words! Shimming the tail (positively) will give more pitch up at faster speeds (and more drag). Shimming the mast will change the level of the board in relation to the surface of the water when foiling at an equilibrium. I hope that makes sense.
@ericfernand
@ericfernand 8 ай бұрын
Could you comment on shimming for flat water pop up ease? More or less AOI?
@hydrofoilacademy
@hydrofoilacademy 8 ай бұрын
That’s exactly why I would place a shim at the rear of the baseplate. Make the flat water paddle up as easy as possible
@ericfernand
@ericfernand 8 ай бұрын
@@hydrofoilacademy Understood that, makes a lot of sense, sorry I was referring to stabilizer shimming*** How would you stab shim to get easy takeoff? less shim would make sense because less drag overall? Thanks
@franpinyol8500
@franpinyol8500 7 ай бұрын
The plane toy is illustrative, but not a valid scientific proof point. Without the rear wings, the plane nose dives because of overweight in the front, not because of the no-stab effect. You are right about the angle of attack of the plane is always pushing up (positive angle, wing is slightly facing up) and the stab compensates it.
@hydrofoilacademy
@hydrofoilacademy 7 ай бұрын
Yes, that is my point. The forward C of G for the toy plane (very extreme in this case) is countered by the Stab's lift. Foils also have a forward C of G. It's not the angle of attack, its the angle of incidence that is at play. Angle of attack can be changed at any point using body weight.
@franpinyol8500
@franpinyol8500 7 ай бұрын
@@hydrofoilacademy thanks ! We love your lessons and youtube channel
@Subscribe2Glide
@Subscribe2Glide Ай бұрын
Try to dockstart with no rear wing shim, this will be a better illustration
@defenderoftheadverb
@defenderoftheadverb 8 ай бұрын
You have a bad habit of speaking loudly and then softly. It makes you hard to follow.
@hydrofoilacademy
@hydrofoilacademy 8 ай бұрын
Sorry!
@wingfoilrentals
@wingfoilrentals 4 ай бұрын
Just ridiculous comment
@garrettpeterson9816
@garrettpeterson9816 Ай бұрын
I didn't notice that at all... Not sure if it's accurate...​@@hydrofoilacademy
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