Hyper Karting @ Moore Park - 43.973 (Old Layout)

Lap Record - 42.030
Personal Best - 43.456

[@lordgoofus2364]

I've never been karting before, but I've always dreamt of building a track car (spent a small fortune on a VR racing sim setup because I can't afford to do the real thing). I had an absolute ball here. First time I did a super average 53sec, second time once I figured out the handling dynamics I managed to get down to low 46secs. Hoping next time I can crack 44secs. There's a few corners where I know I was coming in too hot and losing some time. Can't wait to go back again :D

[@prodbyhasin]

Checked this place out today for the first time, best lap was a 43.302 but man it's just turn after turn after turn. You'll probably enjoy the Entertainment Park in Milperra a bit more. I do anyway 😅

[@dobbywastaken3698]

Would love to see what times you set on the new track at Moore park. Since they changed that big hairpin in sector 3

[@squadragt6225]

Haven’t been in a few months but I’ll have to give it a go

[@squadragt6225]

Well…went today. Biggest difficulty was unlearning old habits / old apex’s. I spent a lot of time bumping into the barrier on most apex’s whilst trying to find that limit. I did a 41.223 on the new layout which allegedly puts me 44th on the all time list of the new layout

[@jonoot.]

@@squadragt6225 Hey, any tips for the new layout? and also wondering if you are considering posting an updated video

[@squadragt6225]

@@jonoot. I’m yet to go and have a run worth giving my opinion on tbh. I’m struggling to find a rhythm with the new layout mainly because there are so many potential driving lines. What I’ve been doing is only changing one aspect per lap to see if it gains time or loses time.

[@Beechaii2]

Which corners are you braking on? I'm reaching 45s but still struggle with traction out of the hairpin and the right hander that follows. I don't brake at all but instead lift off for a fraction of a second for those two corners and a few more. Is that why I'm not getting the most out of the corner entry and exits?

[@squadragt6225]

The whole layout has changed now. My quickest time now is 41.223 (according to my RaceFacer account) 2 biggest things to get sub 49 seconds. Unfortunately these are out of your control. 1. They spray the liquid grip down 2. They give your kart 100% power ----------- To answer your question though, I went last night with no liquid grip and I presume only 80% power and I was only doing 48s. I noticed that although I could lift off and the kart would slow down/get lift off oversteer, I tended to find that slower. I started hitting the brake on all the corners I would previously get lift off at and I found the kart didn’t get lift off oversteer anymore so I had way more traction when accelerating out of the corner. Overall, I am at a stage where I am trying to workout what extra things I can do to pick up pace. Even I am unsure exactly where to brake. But trial and error is your best bet

[@Beechaii2]

@@squadragt6225 I just went tonight on the last two sessions available. Conditions were very slippery but I think they gave me 100% power because I finally broke into the 44s with a 44.7 . I was still lifting into the hairpin and turn 13 but I was able to straight up the steering wheel into the apexes with reduced oversteer. Did a lap where I tried braking there instead but because i don't record my laps I can't tell if I benefited from that.

[@Beechaii2]

@@squadragt6225 Turn 2 and 3 is also proving very tricky because of the speed coming into T2 I find it impossible to not slide on the entry. And the karts are not liking going flat out through T3 because it's very slippery, a lot of micro-corrections required on the steering wheel. Sector 2 the kart was just bumping up and down like the porpoising of the current F1 cars, very uncomfortable.

[@squadragt6225]

@@Beechaii2 if you download the Racefacer app on your phone and search your time, you can pull up the history of all your past sessions. They have a laptimes for each lap. So if you recorded yourself driving, you can sync it up to see if it help. Its a bit clunky but it helps.

[@squadragt6225]

@@Beechaii2 Honestly, turn 2 is my nemesis. I have tried so many entries in there and I still haven't ever done it in a way that felt right. I went last night and i think they have ran out of the liquid grip they usually spray on the circuit for expert sessions. The owner's brother who is in the top 5 all time lap times was in my session and he was only doing 47's. Once they get the liquid grip back, I'd be keen to see how quick you can get your times down.

[@mrdv27onUT]

Went there for the first time today, I’ve got a full 5 seconds to shave off before hitting the 43s mark! Have taken some mental notes on your line here

[@slice55]

I went here with my friend and I loved it I was scared at first I let them go past me 😂 but the second time I was really confident

[@jlaa2276]

Nice, any big tips? I'm going to give it a try

[@squadragt6225]

I’ll make them generic to any track which imo will be more useful. Stage 1 (First Visit on Track): 1. “Go slow to go fast.” = Go slow to learn the track and once you know it like the back of your hand, only then should you be pushing for hard laps. E.g. my first time here I was averaging 50’s. 2. Always Brake in a straight line 3. Sliding = Slow 4. Follow a similar racing line to what I have done Stage 2 (only once you reach Sub 45’s) 1. Practice Braking Later 2. Push the limits of the racing line (don’t be afraid to bump the barrier & expect your lap time to go backwards as you do this.) Stage 3 (Only once you average in the 43’s) 1. Focus on your steering. Are you over turning the steering wheel? 2. Brake/Accelerator. Can you brake later and accelerate earlier? 3. Watch KZbin videos about improving your karting fundamentals --------- Review footage after each session. Let me know if you have any questions!

[@jlaa2276]

@@squadragt6225 Wow thanks for the fantastic answer!

[@jlaa2276]

@@squadragt6225 also out of curiosity, how much practice did it take to get your lap times down? Thanks in advance

[@squadragt6225]

@@jlaa2276 If you login to Race Facer app, you can have a look at my sessions to see my exact progression. I’ve done 3hrs 30 minutes on the track, so 12 sessions all up roughly. My last few are focusing on stage 3 hence the slower lap times this morning. Search ‘William Jeffree’ on the app and you’ll find my profile :)

[@robertomariscal]

Just did a 43.953 with a complete diferente line but following your tips. Cheers 🤙🏼

[@fishyrishy788]

What's the difference between the expert and standard kart options. When did you use boost? and Did you use your own helmet?

[@squadragt6225]

I haven’t been in a few months so I’m not too familiar with the kart difference yet. I use boost @ 00:29 (not sure if that’s optimal), I chose that location because I found boost didn’t increase acceleration. All it did was increase the top speed imo. And yes, brought my own helmet. But they do have ones you can borrow

[@ashyegg2.057]

I have been there quite a lot recently and my fastest time is 43 seconds

[@mrdv27onUT]

Btw do you boost at the end of sector 2, or at the start of sector 1 coming up to the long left hander?

[@squadragt6225]

This video is of the old layout. But tbh I didn’t notice much of a difference with boost so half the time I just hold my finger down on it and just let it do it by itself whenever it recharges

[@charstj]

My fastest I believe is between high 43 and low 44, I could have got a faster but it was a couple hours after the track had been sprayed. I went back a couple days later and I think in the first race I beat my time but the races after that I had to switch carts and of course the one I got had a broken seat and every corner I would shift forward, I tried to tell the guy at the pits but he told me to keep going for another race 👍🏼

[@enjoyenjoi96]

Was this with their standard ‘expert’ kart setting?

[@squadragt6225]

Yep. 100% power with the liquid grip sprayed down

[@enjoyenjoi96]

@@squadragt6225 do you know what lap time enables 100% power? I'm in the 45's and not sure if I'm at 100%

[@squadragt6225]

@@enjoyenjoi96 they spray liquid grip first thing in the morning and after 9pm. So go around one of those times and request to be put on 100% power. The staff are friendly so I usually just chat with them a bit then ask

[@corrupt8049]

i love karting but i rlly hate indoor tracks

[@danielramhede617]

goofy ahh gokart. those sounds are hurting my ears