Hyundai DESTROYS Ford and GM in US EV Battle-Tesla's New Best Friend?

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[@kjshy]

Stop spreading misinformation. I can see your hidden hate for Tesla.

[@fredhearty1762]

What a breath of fresh air! Hyundai with Munoz in leadership appears to be first real COLLABORATOR -- not competitor -- in the transition to sustainable energy. Great products at affordable prices. Welcome aboard Mr. Munoz.

[@GdaySport]

I have a lot of respect for Kia and Hyundai - they are the only OEM manufacturer that is making compelling electric vehicles without making a loss. That means they will probably survive unlike most of the others.

[@LinkeHarryB]

They definitely are right in going all electric for the long term. Fossil fuels will eventually get increasing price volatility and run out altogether. Companies who position themselves now for that predicament will come out on top in the long run

[@MatthewMcDonald-s7t]

I hope Hyundai/Kia continue to do well with EVs. They’re bringing EV models to market for which there isn’t much competition. Until the EV9 arrived there wasn’t a 3 row SUV under $100k. The EV9 is fantastic, Ionic 9 looks good too. It’s great to have these new models available.

[@bobbyDig]

Tesla is the undisputed leader in electric vehicles, while the rest are just trying to catch up.

[@RedRozzsesx]

Cause Tesla got a head start. Wait 5 years or less and Tesla's goin to end up being that ones popular girl who ends up on the loser table.

[@robertharman4938]

Tesla is the leader in the US but not in the world. BYD holds that even with being locked out of some markets

[@garydmercer]

@@RedRozzsesx Don’t care. Bought a cheap used Model 3 for less than $24k with 34,000 miles on it. I’ll be driving it for the next 29 years. I don’t worry about brand nonsense.

[@RedRozzsesx]

@@garydmercer Well, since you don't care, stfu. And that thing wouldn't even last 7 years without a battery replacement best of luck to you buddy.

[@yourcrazybear]

​@@RedRozzsesxNonsense. Tesla didn't have a head start. Nissan had and looked at how that went. First to market is not crucial. Fast innovation is.

[@medennis3467]

While I will never own their products again (my kia Sorento was produced with a known faulty engine), we need all the first principle thinkers as possible in the EV space. There will always be loyalty and disloyalty consumers and folks that will prefer to die before buying a Tesla, so a wide range of options will be optimal. Besides, Elon himself stated Tesla can’t make the transition to EVs by themselves. Good on them.

[@pugsymalone6539]

The Koreans are brilliant people who make quality products in every sector they participate in. Count on Hyundai to succeed while American legacy auto makers become curiosities.

[@danielduggan7126]

Hyundai not winning in Ireland where the best selling EVs are the VW ID.4, followed by the Tesla Model 3 and Model Y.

[@popsandbangs8858]

Ireland is not strong market

[@AlphaCrucis]

Reminds me a little of Carlos Gohsn.

[@yojoe4830]

Since Hyundai and GM not only are coming off their best EV quaters, but are teaming up, GM isn't 'destroyed'. GM and Hyundai are Messla's most dangerous competition in the US.

[@Georgechang-o7f]

'Hyundai is doing pretty well!Keep moving!

[@sanfroid1]

Tariffs will drive more U.S manufacturing, jobs, and competition in the US. All great for the consumer and public.

[@garydmercer]

Tariffs will tank our economy and cause triple digit inflation. Tariffs raise costs for American companies importing parts for cars and chips. We do not have the manufacturing base to keep up with demand. Tariffs caused a trade war with China in the first Trump 4 years. Caused thousands of farmers to go out of business, their farms snapped up by greedy corporations. You are mistaken.

[@TheEvilmooseofdoom]

@@garydmercer Likely he gets told what to think and doesn't really have a clue.

[@garywozniak7742]

It may raise conponent cost in the supply chain die to counter tariffs

[@adriannathaniel4015]

Hyundai solved their 12v issues?

[@corneluscedric2690]

No

[@adriannathaniel4015]

@@corneluscedric2690 then how can they be winning? hahahaha

[@jean-marcfiliatrault266]

Nope! I have a 2024 Ioniq 6 purchased last June. I installed a BMS on the 12-volt battery. This battery cycles every day, meaning that it needs to be charged every day. Not surprising that you can barely get 3 years out of the OEM lead-acid 12-volt battery…

[@donotcare44]

I'm loving my 2023 Hyundai Kona. I'm looking forward to the ioniq 2 that's supposed to be under $25,000 ... made at the new US factory. But if the $7,500 EV money goes away I won't be able to do it. Any news on the ioniq 2???

[@alexnutcasio936]

Thankfully, the $7500 is going away as it should. Elon never supported it and believes the product should stand in its own. Most agree.

[@TheEvilmooseofdoom]

@@alexnutcasio936 I thought the goal was to make if easier for people to buy not about standing on their own as products.

[@garywozniak7742]

​@@TheEvilmooseofdoomor worrying about what Lord Elmo thinks about them.

[@Dogman3690]

Yes Hyundai make reliable vehicles I have a Tucson dino burner and it great not as good as a EV though 😉

[@brokeboy87]

The Koreans will need a 35k and under desperately in their line up. The ideal price for most people is around 25k with decent specs.

[@Georgechang-o7f]

What about Kia EV3 next year?

[@garywozniak7742]

They, Hyundai, have the Inster. Unfortunately, they aren't selling it Canada or the US.

[@alexnutcasio936]

Wait, you’re saying that Hyundai/ Kia is beating Tesla in the EV race too? Eh, I don’t think so. Unless you’re saying Hyundai and Tesla are winning the race.

[@TMIOTesla]

Well Hyundai is beating Ford and GM. Tesla is crushing everyone.

[@TheEvilmooseofdoom]

He didn't say that.

[@alexnutcasio936]

@ read carefully what he wrote. It sounded like Hyundai and Tesla were in a race.

[@davidmenasco5743]

​@@alexnutcasio936Funny you should mention races. Out of Spec Motoring recently uploaded an epic race of 13 EVs from Seattle to Boston. The Ioniq 6 was only 15 minutes behind the longtime road trip champ Model 3. Both were behind the more expensive Taycan. Beating the Model 3 in a road trip is a huge accomplishment for Porsche, even at triple the price. But Hyundai coming very close on the heels of a Model 3 with a car that is a direct price competitor, this would seem to say that the race is on.

[@xclusivewalker2176]

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[@dporrasxtremeLS3]

Buy Tesla! Invest in the Locals! Some people don't get it Hyundai is not US owned! Profits go to Korean people.

[@TheEvilmooseofdoom]

No, everyone understands that and it's been that way for more than half a century with Japanese and European cars too. You might actually be the very last to have figured it out.

[@jjamespacbell]

Not just EVs Hyundai is the worst brand for fire safety. Don't take my word for it google it yourself. "Kia and Hyundai are grouped together, as their vehicles share many of the same parts - especially the ones at risk of catching on fire. Since 2015, these two car brands have recalled 2.3 million vehicles for engine fire risks. In late 2019, they reached a $760 million settlement for non-crash-related car fires"

[@popsandbangs8858]

it’s OK to do a recall and they’re still less than what the other brands have recalled you’re trying to see both companies are so bad so hard with no single solid argument .

[@yourcrazybear]

​@@popsandbangs8858that depends on the reason for the recall and the effects of the errors.

[@pugsymalone6539]

The most important comment I can make here is to address the deficit in America's electric grid. Just as he has solved every other problem along the way in Tesla, SpaceX, etc., Elon will be the one to repair/rescue our power grid. The critics of EVs and/or Elon consistently point to the grid (correctly,) but refuse to acknowledge that Elon can fix it, while failing to offer any solutions of their own. Even without EVs, our grid needs attention. If EVs are the catalyst, so be it.

[@danielking2944]

EVs in general already have the solution for grid inadequacy. As the number of energy storage batteries increases,whether at grid scale or in home systems,the peaks will progressively be eliminated. Vehicles have huge batteries that could more than level the demand of the owner’s energy demand. We typically have more than one car per household; one is usually at home and could be doing that .

[@pugsymalone6539]

@danielking2944 excellent observation.

[@TheEvilmooseofdoom]

Not in the US but was talking to someone here in mooseland about that. He said the grid is constantly upgrading. Power use always increases and they're always expanding capacity. Coping with EV's did not worry him at all. He said industry drinks far more power than EV's.

[@tommydan55]

There's no problem with EVs and the US power grid: "Studies have shown there is no need for extra power generation while EVs remain below 20 percent of the national fleet, and we're quite far from reaching that benchmark. Meanwhile, renewable energy gets more plentiful and cheaper every year, and solutions like microgrids and batteries will only become more common. Plus, EVs are extremely efficient compared to cars that burn fossil fuels. While we may need between 15-27 TWh of electricity by 2050 just to charge EVs, that's about half a percent of current capacity."

[@robertharman4938]

This video puts too much stock in access to the not so supercharger network for HMG. Teslas supercharge network is a 400v network and is not ideal for 800v cars.

[@TheEvilmooseofdoom]

Works with both with no real issue.

[@abimaelcaraballo3779]

Tesla is building 800V chargers.

[@tommydan55]

80% of EV buyers charge at home and hardly use a fast charger.