Hyundai Ioniq 5 Body in White: A Strong Debut for E-GMP?

[@petersilva037]

Kevin, himself, did a great job on the video itself. Great job by Munro! They should be proud of themselves!

[@gisobo]

I myself love their work!

[@wegtennis8740]

Nice to see Munro's sense of humor around "itself," which may have nudged "essentially" out of first place. Always good information, thanks!

[@MunroLive]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@markharris8929]

I think this was a superb job from Kevin. The internal ribbing of the counter is such a typical team banter thing, it’s joy to see. They clearly don’t take each other too seriously. Perhaps he was aware of it because you can see him really working on the words as he goes. I bet it wasn’t done in one take either. Good work Sir.

[@Jallen262]

So it looks like Kia/Hyundai managed to make a good start by basing the EGMP on strong fundamentals from their ICE cars. A good choice; too many manufacturers bumping up their costs and lowering value proposition to customers by trying to re-invent the wheel. If a good steel BIW can accommodate a 300+ mile range EV drivetrain AND remain one of the lightest, and safest EVs available in this market segment, it proves that they're doing it right 👍👍 No wonder, with the amount of Ioniq 5s and EV6 there are here on the roads in the UK already.

[@rkan2]

The investments in the platform and body are easily dwarfed by having your competitors making battery deals before you. Now instead of you making the drivetrain it is somebody else. That is why subcontracting automakers struggle. Volume is obviously always a factor.

[@JigilJigil]

I like the style of Kevin analysis.

[@MunroLive]

We wouldn't change a thing about it!

[@budgetaudiophilelife-long5461]

🙋‍♂️THANKS KEVIN,AND THE MUNRO TEAM FOR SHARING THIS 💚💚💚

[@MunroLive]

Thanks for watching!

[@I-0-0-I]

Man, imagine being an engineer at one of these OEMs and finding a video on your work on this channel. Must be nerve wracking!

[@brunoheggli2888]

Why?Munro isnt imortend!

[@DeLorean4]

Only if you know you did a bad job, or your director basically forced you to do something stupid.

[@sjvtesla]

Like... Everyone to the conference room... Let's see what we need to fix😢

[@nexussymbiosis9270]

Why!!because munro is a advertising overhyped crap to blind foiling the screen zombies of the internet algorithms censorship to bamboozle branding influencing the ,,zzzzombies to their corporate lobbying partners in lies like tesla for example,sapere aude! They are SCHEMERS .U ZOMBIES

[@nexussymbiosis9270]

@@sillystuff6247 world class LOLOL you mean a 🐀 on rankings of how to manipulate and blind foiling the zombies on KZbin LOLOL world class ahahahah.

[@arnecarlsson9740]

The video ITSELF is very informative! When I see all the small steel parts welded together it is obvious how much savings there are in Tesla's giga castings. Great job Kevin!

[@Fred70115]

The castings are cool from an assembly standpoint, but they’re almost impossible to repair after an accident. Also very difficult to make small design changes, as the molds are very expensive. The legacy builders need to utilize their existing equipment as best they can.

[@ElDJReturn]

This in itself is another great Munro vehicle teardown

[@whistleworm]

Thanks Kevin. You did a really good job. Don’t let your fluency be disturbed by the ridiculous “itself” counter. We all have speech idiosyncrasies and it’s very easy to ridicule others until it’s you who’s being ridiculed.

[@normangebhardt2092]

Thanks Kevin for your informative and detailed video. Looking forward to watching the next one.

[@eddiegardner8232]

Nice descriptive explanation of what is going on in the body-in-white, Kevin.

[@theagentsmith]

Thank you for the amazing content you post, and kudos to Kevin for what is, itself, a detailed analysis. Don't be too bothered by the keyboard tigers!

[@JT_771]

Good info & well presented, as per usual. Thanks Munro group!

[@MunroLive]

Thanks for watching!

[@tow.JanWinnicki]

The video itself is quite valuable. Serwus!

[@MikeRobot]

The counter is great guys. At the end of the day 🤣. Keep up the great work.

[@MunroLive]

We love when our presenters have signature words/catchphrases! And we don't poke fun at them unless we know they're a good sport.

[@martingardens]

@@MunroLive Next time, count the "ums". 😎

[@ronaldlenz5745]

Itself Counter! Love it. Had a speech teach way back when that dropped a stone in a metal bucket for every ummm. It was like a machine gun for some of my peers...definitely not me. Part 2. Had a Tour Director in the Canadian Rockies for 2 weeks. "As well" was both a comma and a period. The "as wells" were so prolific I couldn't focus on the message.

[@TheAwareHuman]

This is one of those channels that promote fun in STEM culture, ultimately important for advancing not just America but advancing mankind

[@MAESTROLIDER]

Wow, thank you for the video. I want another detail video about the car body of ioniq 5. 😊

[@ghostindamachine]

Excellent information!

[@MunroLive]

Thank you so much!

[@tomcramer1450]

Love the itself counter. That's not a bad affect to have. Much better than "um". Stop messing with him - good job!

[@Rei_n1]

Excellent! Thanks for sharing

[@MunroLive]

Our pleasure!

[@robertsarkezi2080]

great video and the itself counter gives it a funny touch😂

[@gregw3444]

Could also add an 'essentially' counter + the standard 'uh', like' and 'you know' counter. Could make a fun graphic on the right side of the video :) Great info provided. Thanks Munro!

[@hardyk2010]

Hyundai Kia have the right recipe to win & deliver fantastic, sensible & recently even desirable vehicles.

[@MrGMawson2438]

Very interesting, thanks

[@MunroLive]

You are very welcome!

[@MrGMawson2438]

@@MunroLive Thanks

[@lsh3rd]

The video itself is essentially very good.

[@philflip1963]

Very informative and well presented, thanks.

[@MunroLive]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@Roguescienceguy]

The itself-counter is pretty hilarious 😂.

[@mikeyc8139]

It was a good contest but the itself counter can't beat the essentially counter which was at 28 for this video.😀

[@markmiller6844]

We just bought one. I majored in car design. Very interested. I was not bothered by the high count itself per se. ;-)

[@Yanquetino]

I'm curious to know what changes Hyundai might make to the structure when they transition from the E-GMP to the new IMA…? Are both packs the same size? mounted the same? only the internal cells will be different?

[@christopherwaits7852]

The “itself” counter reminds me of the South Park episode where they say “shit” 😂

[@harrywind1870]

Oh no. Due to the itself counter I couldn't concentrate on the content at all but was only focused on that word. I think the counter missed three itself. I will probably have to watch the whole video again in order to get the main content...

[@sebastiangrus]

How viable would flow drilling+tapping the front crush beam be? Are there material or thickness limitations to these processes?

[@KiwiMechEng]

I was thinking that as well but perhaps the material is too thin to create strong enough threads?

[@johnpoldo8817]

Kevin is very knowledgeable and great asset to Munro. I didn’t like the “itself” counter.

[@thelongame]

I imagine the internal banter. Love it!

[@KiwiMechEng]

Might have to tally Jordan mentioning "monument" to get back.

[@rdt1096]

I found the counter distracting

[@rkan2]

The editor gotta have a way to went their OCD 😅

[@GrandHuevotes]

Yep Honda is one of the early pioneers with “ACE” as well as Volvo as well doing edge testing. And by edge I mean edge case testing as opposed to testing merely to pass tests

[@BigEightiesNewWave]

Honda a pioneer, nope, far from a pioneer, came into game late.

[@jjohur]

Super breakdown, description and presentation.

[@MunroLive]

Much appreciated!

[@TheDolanar]

Does anyone know if the Ioniq 5 SE, SEL, and Limited use the same wiring harness? Would be curious to if you could take the cameras from the Limited and put them in a SEL or SE and the surround cameras would work. Is it a hardware limitation because the connections are not there along with the proper trim or is it a software limitation to the model?

[@rkgsd]

I like the "itself" counter more than the video itself.

[@barrnada]

does the tailgate have provision for a wiper motor?

[@stevemiller2210]

Surprisingly you don’t need it

[@jdp1991]

I found the video itself to be extremely well done and informative. I, however believe the E-gimp design itself to be already outdated. Overall, i give Kevin an A+ on the presentation itself and look forward to more of his videos in the future......itself.😂

[@stephenj4937]

Can you explain WHY you find the E-GMP platform to be outdated?

[@jdp1991]

It was an attempt at a joke to include another "itself".

[@SilentServiceCode]

Where was the itself counter at 9:22

[@calholli]

It's there

[@stevemiller2210]

Kia EV six 15,000 miles zero trouble so far.The most trouble free car I’ve ever owned so far

[@calholli]

@@stevemiller2210 I like how the EV6 looks. It's a nice looking car. We'll see if it holds up long term. Kia has had a bad run of engines in the past. I had a little 95 kia Sportage 5spd. I really liked that car. :).. But I let my brother drive it over a weekend and him and his friends rolled it.

[@GlitterGuru]

Don't forget Hyundai has their own steel making company, which I imagine they have fine control over at low cost 👍

[@rkan2]

It is South Korea, it is all the same company :D

[@1호-o6j]

In the Korean market, it is almost monopolized, so we sell it at a very high price😢

[@user-ko9te4jj4u]

@@1호-o6j Not true.

[@Twenty1world]

There are four steel makers in SK. Posco is the largest one. Hyundai steel’s market share is about 20~30%. You are all wrong.

[@steveakin1103]

FOOLISHLY I was enjoying my “essentially” drinking game, but you’ve pointed out the better game:”itself.” That will cause a blackout to be sure. I’ll rewatch playing the “itself” game next time BUT do it while strolling to the ER for a stomach pump afterward.

[@calholli]

"themselves": is a double shot

[@mrrkrr]

I think the "itself" count should be increased by +2 for every usage of "themselves". It'll be a new high score! 🏆

[@shazam6274]

In and of itself, the video does a great job of explaining this "compromise chassis" (for ICE, PHV, & BEV). Unfortunately the "itself" counter person was less capable, since about 1/2 dozen "itself" utterances were uncounted in the tally. 😁

[@wespress0]

here for the "itself" counter

[@brunoheggli2888]

Wow,this is all so much better then a Tesla!Good job

[@calholli]

I disagree.. Tesla using those huge aluminum castings front and rear and also with the entire interior being mounted to the battery and installed from underneath; it's just better

[@sakle]

Kia/huyndai has some major or minor problem of the e-platform because on thr facelift they have to make some changes and strenghtening on the body frame. Allso kia ev6 has really problem with the ride quality. It doesnt drive directly.

[@AdityaMehendale]

Itself a good counter

[@AdityaMehendale]

Doesn't "themselves" deserve a seat at the table itself?

[@MrGMawson2438]

Afternoon

[@germanr84]

Itself counter 😂😂

[@bernhardleopold6702]

They should count "kinda" and "kind of" instead...

[@mtcruse]

"Aspect" may have to be next. Neither "itself" nor "aspect" bug me like "like" would, and Kevin was great about unneeded "likes".

[@petersilva037]

They gave him a pass on "themselves" ... of which there are several as well.

[@thelongame]

More “essentially” than “themselves”. Excellent video.

[@rogerstarkey5390]

"Pacific strategy"? (5:20)

[@oholdeno]

I mean just another way of saying east-asian imo.

[@jamesengland7461]

Bordering the Pacific Ocean, as in Japan and Korea.

[@calholli]

He means non-Atlantic... no euro-trash

[@petersilva037]

@17:02 ... I'm guessing that bare feet are an OSH violation.

[@ferkeap]

?So many added stamped steel parts. Is that not expensive and less effecient on weight.

[@zodiacfml]

weird this feels like watching a component in the ICE vehicle period/age. The Cybertruck is setting a new paradigm in car building. I think the future is more straight line structures, body lines and stainless steel. While ugly to most people at first, it will become norm pretty fast like how European or traditional buildings were done vs the modern architecture we have today which is more practical and cost sensitive.

[@rkan2]

Stainless steel is definitely not the future in most passenger vehicles. People like their coloured cars.

[@davidhiles8823]

Stainless steel is a material which is unnecessarily hard to form during the manufacturing process,. Let alone repair through the life of the vehicle. A dead end.

[@zodiacfml]

@@davidhiles8823 Yes which is the reason why the Cybertruck looks like that. Using stainless steel gets rid of the slow and expensive painting process and it is likely future cars from Tesla have the same design philosophy.

[@stevemiller2210]

I believe stainless is still heavy

[@zodiacfml]

@@stevemiller2210 It is but EVs don't care much with added weight which is the reason stainless is feasible on the Cybertruck

[@johnpublicprofile6261]

LOTS OF PARTS There seems to be a lot of separate pressed steel parts joined together. The inside bulkhead and floor panel remind me of the early Model 3.

[@momentum2564]

Model 3 a wild mix of materials, IONIQ 5 all steel. The problem is not the number of parts, the number of contacts of different metals.

[@johnpublicprofile6261]

@@momentum2564The problem with the 'number of parts' is the number of parts is the problem, and yes I know what you mean about Galvanic Corrosion. Each part is:- an additional part with either an additional or more complex die; an additional forming process; an additional surface area of coating; an additional assembly process; an additional fixing; an additional cost of material; an additional point where something can go wrong; additional time to manufacture; and typically an additional weight; It is hard to argue with the manufacturing mantra of "the best part is no part"

[@jeremyjedynak]

"themselves" is a form of "itself" and should have been included in the count.

[@justinmallaiz4549]

“Essentially” might have won the word count. -Id hate to do these presentations on camera

[@andrewashmore8000]

One of the most impressive cars on the roads now. Looks hot. Looks futurist, looks exceptionally well finished , The one major fuck up is the micky mouse frunk area. That was a pity Still love this car. Best overall out there .

[@monarodan]

The RWD has a decent frunk

[@FlorentHenry]

Itself in itself isn't a problem itself, it's when you abuse it that in itself becomes one.

[@calholli]

I don't think he means to.. He just needs to work on breaking the habit.

[@briansmithwins]

In itself, itself isn’t that bad of a verbal tic…

[@jamesvandamme7786]

You know?

[@mrparanoid9698]

If you feel you want to point out the number of times something is mentioned, atleast count everyone.. yes, your count in video is incorrect :)

[@h57s]

I would also count "themselves". 5 minutes in, there have been 2 so far. 😂

[@calholli]

I counted 7.. but I didn't keep track very well.. I was listening to the actual engineering. Plus I listen at 2x speed, so info is flying by. :)

[@iseeyourschwarz8973]

What I'm really curious about is what in this body is actually the E-GMP platform? how much is common across multiple vehicles (Ioniq 5/ EV6/ GV60) and what is unique? Me and my monkey brain looking at this, it all seems to be pretty unique the Ioniq 5, so where are the cost savings?

[@KiwiMechEng]

Perhaps the common front and rear drive modules?

[@zodiacfml]

it is just usually the drivetrain powertrain, less on the chassis

[@disturbed4733]

Oh, oh, you forgot to end with the "Hit Subscribe" comment 😸

[@BigEightiesNewWave]

A really cool looking vehicle, with really bad issues.

[@calholli]

The EV6 is definitely cooler.. That's a great looking car. Reminds me of Mazda styling, which I really like.

[@zahari_s_stoyanov]

Where's the "themselves" counter :D

[@musicamaiz]

WHERE'S CORY HIMSELF THO

[@spankeyfish]

Boy racers, ricers and other gearheads will be pleased that the BIW has a strut tower brace designed into it, lol

[@jinpingthebear110]

I T S E L F

[@kenttrussell5750]

👍

[@john_in_phoenix]

Poor Kevin, it seems someone disapproved of "itself". Is it a drinking game? 😅

[@ArtOfHealth]

How do I find out which of the E vehicles you are most excited about? You all plus Sandy seem very happy with most everything you look at. I drove the Mach E. Not bad. Road noise could be less. Response is good too. Ford is way high on prices and needs to stop misrepresenting range. I had a call from a salesman locally and he had a Platinum Lightning. $83,000. He said New with 2000 miles. I said that is a lot of demos or taking the truck home. I said that is a used vehicle and offered $45,000. He said No on used. I said he was wrong. He did the history check. A man bought and used it for 1 month and turned it in. The Ford sales people in the dealerships lie through their teeth. I donot even trust Tesla for concealing complaints and problems from us. My safety is on the line. You lie and I die is not good for me. Transparency is King. Thank you for discussing the Ioniq 5!

[@LarryRPark]

If you count the word "essentially", it might be used more than "itself"...

[@MikeRobot]

Can’t wait till you can ask AI put in order the most used words in this video. Will make the counter much funnier.

[@Random83]

Itself

[@Clark-Mills]

"itself" counter unnecessary and distracting... seems a bit mean to highlight nothing...

[@2canengineering]

Why use one word when you can use 10

[@shanewalker9564]

Hyundai and Kia are telling the owners of nearly 92,000 vehicles in the U.S. to park them outside because an electronic controller in an oil pump can overheat and cause fires . Or is it

[@stephenj4937]

And none of those vehicles are EVs or on this platform.

[@BigEightiesNewWave]

These are having so many failures would never buy one. ICCU failures, shutting off in traffic, 12v dead, no-start, NO HEAT/NO AC,EPS failures, overheating while charging, shutting charging off completely or taking 11 hours. In true Hyundai fashion, they were at first blaming owners. NHTSA investigation started.

[@dougchatch]

Good thing you're not drinking watching this video. Itself DRINK......🤢

[@knotnowwoodworking]

Why just have a counter for "itself"? Start counting the "ums" for all presenters--those are really annoying. All presenters should be required to take a public speaking class and learn how to speak without say "um" ten thousand times. Otherwise, great video.

[@JT_771]

Public speaking classes to get rid of the ums and other things we all do? Yeah, I don't think so. Not for videos like this.

[@knotnowwoodworking]

@@JT_771 Fair enough, but I would assume your presenters also present to your paying customers and don't magically stop "umming" for them. At least presentes should watch their own videos and try to improve.

[@JT_771]

@@knotnowwoodworking yes, I was thinking of that as I wrote my reply ... and a very fair point

[@MunroLive]

um, these videos aren't scripted and um our engineers take time away from their projects to um be in the video. We also don't um film multiple takes.

[@JT_771]

@@MunroLive haha ... thanks for having fun, Munro!

[@kenttrussell5750]

Aluminium not very strong compared to steel

[@markplott4820]

TESLA gigacast is Stronger than a Steel front end.

[@thomas735]

@@markplott4820aluminum shouldn’t be structural on any unibody vehicle.

[@merkeydizzle]

That’s why Elon called Tesla frame failure issues “normal wear and tear” 🤔. Which is insane if you think about a single cast frame that also has lots of known fender and frame rust issues already. Maybe after he starts correcting some of these issues, then he can address the cheap looking interior. Looking like an early 2000s Honda with an IPad stuck to the dash. It’s crazy that you can buy a car for almost 60k and still not get a cluster behind the steering wheel 🤷‍♂️

[@gill7087]

After a while I started concentrating more on when the next ‘itself’ was coming than the information about the body. 🤔😀

[@jinpingthebear110]

Amazing information bro, would have never thought of that.

[@evilutionltd]

Disappointed with the "itself" language shaming. We all have speaking quirks and "go to" words.

[@JT_771]

Depends on how it's being taken. We do certainly all have such things. I for one want to know of such things about myself. If it's both done and taken in fun & good intent, then I think it's all ok. But both of those do matter.

[@jinpingthebear110]

I assume that Kevin has the ability to laugh about himself, which you apparently lack.

[@calholli]

"disappointed" must be one of your go to words.

[@charlesyamamoto4407]

Cringe.

[@flamingstag2381]

AMAZING HOW OLD WORLD THIS IS NOW !

[@joejones6968]

Sir, you absolutely need to work on your speech presentation. This is absolutely horrible, you say: " umm" entirely way to much. Makes you seem incompetent.

[@WSDFirm]

Can you ask your people to be more Sandy grumpy? We tuned into the channel for Sandy and maybe Corey. And I respect showing off the other members of your team, but we would like them to be more critical rather than wishy-washy. I heard several places in this video where 😮Sandy grumpy tone would’ve gotten the point across more clearly.

[@MunroLive]

We want our Engineers to be themselves, there is only 1 Sandy.

[@leerjet1868]

And Cory is no longer at Munro.

[@calholli]

@@leerjet1868 Really? WHy

[@hardyvonwinterstein5445]

Kevin surely has a lot of knowledge and talents, but he is not a natural presenter or teacher, in my opinion. Info is great, but you have to bring it over.

[@KiwiMechEng]

I had no problem understanding him. This is aimed at his peers, other engineers.

[@calholli]

He assumes you're at a certain level of intelligence.. if you're below that, then I can see why you can't keep up.

[@hardyvonwinterstein5445]

@@calholli Ah, Kevin's mom. Nice to meet you.

[@calholli]

@@hardyvonwinterstein5445 got'cha .. lol.. got'em

[@markplott4820]

MUNRO - the Hyundai e-GiMP platform is Factually OUTDATED, too Heavy , with too many Fastners and too many Brackets holding up MORE brackets. Hyundai is lacking the MOST Advanced BIW , the TESLA Front & Rear Gigacast, and 4680 Structural pack.

[@richierich8292]

Yet the Tesla I owned was a total rattle box-Tesla=PURE RUBBISH. Horrible build quality.

[@merkeydizzle]

My 2023 Model Y long range rattled like crazy as well. I traded in because of the rattles and insane phantom breaking that threw my kids heads into their child seats. Never again will I own a Tesla. Overpriced Elon Trash cans.

[@wtmayhew]

It is interesting to watch this BIW overview next to the Tesla Model S BIW overview. The progressiveness of the design can be argued, but the quality of the welds and application of the adhesive looks decidedly better on the Ioniq 5 than the Model S.

[@markplott4820]

@@richierich8292 - UNTRUE of the 2023 builds , Specially coming out of AUSTIN, TX.

[@richierich8292]

@@markplott4820 Give it a year to “loosen up”. I loved my Tesla the first year… Tesla is a tech company not a car company.. if they could only make cars as well as there charging network…and the phantom braking is downright deadly.. that sealed the sell off for me..

[@markplott4820]

MUNRO - at end of the day , Hyundai e-GiMP platform is an OUTDATED gas based platform , Designed for Combustion cars, Hybrids (combustion) , Fool Cells and a BEV platform. but , e-GiMP is only using the Hybrid & BEV Variants . still, the Platform is too Complex and too Heavy.

[@markplott4820]

MUNRO - e-GiMP = Crappy thermal and Drivetrain.

[@brunoheggli2888]

Everything about the Hyundai ev platform is mindblowing and gamechanging!The Genesis GV60 has an supernice luxury interieur to!The Ioniq6 is extremy efficent,my brother has one!

[@markplott4820]

@@brunoheggli2888 , Hyundai is aFLOP.

[@brilanto]

@@brunoheggli2888 Mindblowingly outdated welding of tiny bits (remember, one main critique of early Model 3?), and efficient because your brother owns one?

[@brunoheggli2888]

@@brilanto Its a veey solid car,nota rattelbox like the Tesla!

[@brunoheggli2888]

@@brilanto Its game over for Tesla!You can buy much better evs from the competition!