Hyundai IONIQ; what's new with the 2020 edition? | 100% Independent, 100% Electric | FULLY CHARGED

[@fullychargedshow]

LIKE if you are interested in hearing more from Hyundai & SHARE if you think car makers should start making more EVs available. Full description below.... So what's new with Hyundai's 2020 version of the popular IONIQ? We sent Rory to take it for a spin and find out if this updated version can rival Hyundai's other in-demand EV - the Kona. The 2020 Ioniq has an upgraded battery, a new motor and delivers a 30% increase in range as well as design improvements and some well-thought out tech. It's certainly a decent everyday EV for a reasonable price - but will this be enough to beat competitors in an increasingly crowded market? For ease of reference use the *Timestamps* below... Fully Charged is 100% independent thanks to KZbin Memberships (join above) and Patreons (join via www.patreon.com/fullychargedshow). Online news, views & reviews: FullyCharged.Show LIVE exhibitions in USA, UK & Europe: FullyCharged.Show/events Twitter: twitter.com/fullychargedshw Instagram: instagram.com/fullychargedshow *Timestamps* 0:00 Introduction 0:36 Improvements to the IONIQ 1:13 Range & Battery Size 1:31 Improved Exterior Styling 3:04 Impressive Drag Coefficient 6:17 Updated Tech & Instrumentation 7:23 Driving Modes & Regeneration 9:21 Interior Features 10:04 Rear & Bootspace 11:01 Charging the IONIQ 12:01 KONA Comparison 12:29 Summing Up 13:09 Subscribe & Support

[@Xiph1980]

Yes, it was about time you guys featured the Ioniq! It's a great car, and for some reason it's really not promoted that much by Hyundai.

[@philiprowney]

9.9 0-60 and 103 MPH, that's about the same as a car half the weight that does 50+ MPG from 35 years ago! [ sic: MG Metro ]

[@fernandozenomiranda9470]

Where's the price? Did I missed it?

[@jijogorgeraj]

Please review the PHEV

[@pigedehekkan]

Maybe you should have informed Rory about the charging architecture in ev´s prior to the review? Seems he is stuck in the classic exv´s mentality when confusing AC and DC. When you are at it, also tell him the difference between a charging cable and a charger.

[@MikeDeeee]

Good review of the car, but poor review of "Ioniq: what's new in 2020". I can think of the following important differences that were not mentioned: - much slower DC charging speed - liquid cooled battery (good but requires very expensive cooling liquid change every three years) - due to new chemistry, battery needs to be heated for charging (already at 16 A), which requires energy (-> less efficient and slower charging) - more space in the boot as the air cooling fan on the right is no longer required -> additional compartment - tyres now have an aspect ratio of 60 instead of 55 -> 1 inch higher ride height (required to keep ground clearance the same as new battery is slightly taller) - European version now finally has an app for remote heating/cooling, status and various settings - possibility to pre-heat/cool the car without being on the charger - possibility to set a charging limit for daily driving (highly recommended to set this as low as possible with daily driving needs in order to reduce calendar ageing of the battery) There is probably more.

[@MikeDeeee]

@davisadamOn the motorway (when DC charging matters most), you have mostly 175 to 350 kW chargers (already now, and even more so in the future). On those, the old Ioniq charges 21 kWh in 19.6 minutes, the new Ioniq needs 34.3 minutes.

[@MikeDeeee]

@@Moody_Blues_ I have the old Ioniq with ventilated seats - I don't think anything has changed with those. They are great in summer. The slower charging matters only on trips of more than ~400 km as the new Ioniq has a head start of 10 kWh additional capacity so the first stop can be later. Regarding the battery, I think the old chemistry might be more durable and able to cope with higher and lower temperatures as it has significantly more cobalt than the new chemistry. Most important is to not keep the battery at high states of charge. If it is at 50% or less most of the time, and only charged to more directly before departing, calendar ageing should be minimal.

[@OVarlamov]

More useful info than the original video content :)

[@krugerdave]

I think this comment is a better and more useful review of the car than the actual video, so thanks for that!

[@adi7yak]

Could you please tell how much does battery coolant flush and replacement costs?

[@bitman666]

I would like to see the washing machine in the boot episode.

[@MrAdopado]

I've carried a washing machine in the back of considerably smaller cars ... very old Fiat Punto? No problem!

[@timmurphy5541]

@@MrAdopado indeed I got my last one in and out over the lip of our boot very easily. I had it on a 2-wheeled handcart, leaned the back of that against the car and slid the washing machine up it and in without any help - same at the other end.

[@dalriada842]

I once moved a bath the length of Scotland in the back of a Yaris. Where there's a will there's a way.

[@user-jt1jv8vl9r]

I took our old washing machine to the tip in old Honda civic no problem.

[@studiolegenda]

This could be an entire series on its own; the bi-annual washing machine test. See which electric cars it fits in; both boot AND frunk.

[@MaxFiveGames]

wait what im on Fullychardged ? xD i thought im watching AutoTrader

[@onlineo2263]

Rory really needs to stop plugging autotrader in every episode. Sure have a link in the description but that's it.

[@eddiewawa]

@@Moody_Blues_defo thought that, but if auto trader obviously hosts transport which are include ICE, then... Why did jonny leave? Thought it was because he wanted to everything else including electric cars which is why set up the carpervert channel? And this is what Rob didn't agree with I association with the fully charged?... I'm sure I'm just muddled up there lol if they got Rory in plugging auto trader, then... Why didn't they just keep JS?... Unless there was something... Else?

[@nathann3507]

Same 😂

[@aldod8167]

@@eddiewawa I was thinking the same. They are my two favourite car reviewers but it feels like Rory gets to do what Jonny wanted to do.

[@eddiewawa]

@@aldod8167 and to be fair jonny does more interesting reviews that auto trader normally would anyways lol guess it didnt work out, but glad it's some decent like Rory regardless. Bring more on!

[@johnm5417]

It's got four driving modes (eco+/eco/normal/sport). The Kona is not the same price it's about £6,000 more.

[@terrabiker]

but kona have 65kw battery with 120km more distance available , with occasional longer trips that battery for city driving will degrade much less because you can keep it 80% charged or even less to preserve health. So you'll save some money on battery replacement.

[@user-jt1jv8vl9r]

@@terrabiker If you are looking to keep a car long term as I would, better a bigger battery.

[@ianmurray250]

@@terrabiker The 64kWh Kona actually has a 71kWh battery, it only uses 64kWh to give that 80% figure. Either way the 64kWh Kona does 300 miles in summer.

[@PoulSkaanning]

@@terrabiker You may loose 10-20% of battery capacity during the life of the car, but you dont replace the battery. It is not worth it on a 12-15 year old car.

[@grimtemple]

You can’t claim that electric cars tend to “fall over” when cornering, that’s ridiculous!

[@nikumeru]

Electric cars with all the weight down in the floor, gonna fall over ... not!

[@derekwhite5090]

And Rory provides no evidence for his assertion that they fall over. He sounded like it was a very common problem. I call BS.

[@Alex-cw3rz]

Have you heard that sometimes words aren't always by the definition. All he means is Tesla's and some other high torque EV's are shit at turning corners, which they are.

[@Alex-cw3rz]

@@derekwhite5090 Have you heard that sometimes words aren't always by the definition. All he means is Tesla's and some other high torque EV's are shit at turning corners, which they are.

[@MrAdopado]

Agreed, but he was using the term "fall over" in the sense of "not working as well as you would want". It's pretty standard colloquial UK speech but not very helpful on a video piece that is going to be viewed internationally.

[@EleanorPeterson]

Don't want better, smoother, bigger, faster, longer, wider, harder, softer, brighter, or smarter. Want effing CHEAPER. Oh, what's the point.

[@rogerheuckeroth7456]

Buy used then...

[@MikeDeeee]

e-Up?

[@AnonYmous-rw6un]

Skoda Citigo.

[@MoltenArmour]

@@AnonYmous-rw6un c6k more than a new ice version is a rip off. There is no reason they are that much more.

[@garyallsopp6369]

New Skoda Eniaq is around the same price for a huge car with more range; prices are coming down slowly as selection & competition improves, someone will blink soon and you'll have price parity in all classes.

[@stephen546]

A good review of a good car. BUT why do I always get the impression the reviewer is seeing this through the eyes of someone used to the best and most expensive out there. The car is what it is, a practical, very usable family car that happens to be electric. So it doesn't have an electric closing boot...you wouldn't expect that and the acceleration is far from slow. In the real world this hits the mark and is well built too...

[@cookingfat1]

I also think that the reviewer is seeing this through the eyes of someone used to the best and most expensive out there. I went from a 2017 prius to this car and it way exceeded my expectations, it's pretty quick in sport mode, and packed full of features not in other cars such as ventilated a/c seats, heated rear seats etc, and the cruise control with lane keep assist is pretty much auto pilot and works extremely well and he didn't mention these things.

[@shonunezekiel]

I think Rory is just reviewing it as if it were any car. And that makes a nice change of pace in my opinion. When Robert reviews an electric car, he sees something that has the potential to reduce pressure on the environment, and his infectious enthusiasm about that comes through. Rory might see it the same way, who knows, but his delivery and review is unaffected and he is just comparing it to other cars (petrol/diesel/hydrogen/hybrid/electric/fluxcapacitor)... some of those will have an electric closing boot, some will not, for some people this will be an important differentiator (maybe pregnant women or people carrying infants or people with limited strength), and for some it will not.

[@stephen546]

@@shonunezekiel That wasn't the issue, the issue is he's looking at it through the eyes of someone used to much more expensive cars and thus context was lost. Someone used to cars that are one step up from scrap would get very excited about this car. What's required is a test that's neutral, in context and full of detail

[@itsfahys]

Why wasnt this Edited. The AC onboard AC 7kwh is not used on the Fast CCS charger and will not get you 0-80% in a short time. You must use the CCS Connector at a Fast Charger for this. Please correct this or at least admit it was a mistake otherwise reflects poorly on Quality up to now of Fully Charged reviews

[@julianberry6436]

Thanks Rory but you seemed to miss out the fact that this is the most efficient EV on the market - it literally sips electrons at a very low rate and therefore the 38.3KWh battery size is less of an issue than say a Nissan Leaf or Jaguar I pace especially on motorway trips. Also I it’s similarly priced to 39kwh Kona - not the 64kwh Kona, which is £4000 more. Just seen Mike Dee’s comments below - perhaps ask him for the most sailiant points next time👍

[@pantzman]

The Ioniq is going out of production soon so every car is now sold as Premium model (comes with everything except a sunroof). Costs about the same as the entry level Kona Trend with standard range (similar battery, range and performance). Kona can have load on the roof (has roofbars) but overall the Ioniq felt slightly more spacious. We recently ordered the Ioniq as I felt we got more for the money compared to the Kona.

[@roidroid]

Electric cars don't have cornering issues, their much lower centre-of-gravity helps this. Electric cars are not faster than "some" sports cars, the fastest sports cars are literally electric. This isn't Top-Gear, Rory, leave the anti-EV nonsense out.

[@SWR112]

Absolutely...

[@Scuba72Chris]

The lower centre of gravity might help keep the suspension level during cornering but the higher overall mass of EVs in general will absolutely increase the chances of losing it on a bend if you enter too quickly. It's simple physics. Don't accuse someone of being anti-EV when they are clearly not, just because you won't recognise a hard truth.

[@roidroid]

@@Scuba72Chris so in what way did the Ioniq "fix" this?

[@darell8310]

You literally have no idea what your talking 😂😂

[@alaneasthope2357]

I loved my 28 kWh Ioniq, but only uppgrading to 39 kWh was not good value for money in my opinion. I now have the 64 kWh Kona and with over 300 miles of range it is insane. They should have put a 64 kWh battery in the Ioniq. That really would have been serious competition for the Model 3.

[@justjc51]

The problem with a bigger battery IONIQ is that it would be more expensive, both to build and for the costumer, and that it would be a bit of a waste considering that Hyundai have plans to launch their next generation EVs based on the fully electric E-GMP (Electric Global Modular Platform) next year. The E-GMP cars will upgrade to a 800 volt system, that allows for significantly higher charging speeds and as a dedicated EV platform has room for larger battery packs. The charging speeds is rumoured to reach 200 kW, while the battery options should be 58 or 73 kWh. The cars will be branded as IONIQ, with the model names 5, 6 and 7. The IONIQ 5 will be the Kona of 2021, based on the Hyundai 45 concept electric car, while the IONIQ 6 will replace the Hyundai IONIQ EV in 2022, based on their Prophecy EV concept and finally the IONIQ 7 will be a larger SUV arriving in 2024.

[@ARandomOWL]

Where can I get a 64kWh Kona for the same price as an Ioniq? 🤔

[@nigelgreenwood9010]

The Kona has held its price better than the ioniq

[@hino304]

I remember the days before Fully Charged was a car show :/

[@michielfeys9563]

Stop whining. In the last 10 episodes: a tractor, micro-machines and delivery vans.

[@CaroAbebe]

Since this “new” Ioniq came out over a year ago, we do know that there have been quite a few charging issues. I’m a bit disappointed that you didn’t tell us whether these problems have actually been solved.

[@joe8572]

Caro Abebe can see it from the plate: 2nd half of 2019 :)

[@CaroAbebe]

😅 Thanks, Joe!

[@flyer152]

At 11:20 you mention "it has a onboard 7.2kw charger, which means on a 50 or 100Kw charger you be at 80% in 54 mins" don't think that is right. But I would have liked to know what power it is possible to rapid charge at.

[@cable1722]

It charges at up 50 kw on CCS.

[@DavidIRoberts]

The 7.2kw capability refers to the max AC charging speed - typically when charging at home.

[@derekwhite5090]

cable1722 and at what speed when plugged into a 150kw charger?

[@volvocars5189]

The 38,3 kWh maxes out at 140 Amps delivered from a 50+ kW charger. Still the low nominal battery voltage 320V will limit the charge power.

[@cable1722]

@@derekwhite5090 the absolute max is 50 kw. As mentioned elsewhere it runs low voltage compared to most EVs so it's likely to be lower than that.

[@bradw8964]

As a previous model Ioniq owner, I am happy. It is not a speed daemon or head turner, but it is a damn good car to use for just normal everyday driving. The Kona here in Australia was an extra $16,000. Not worth that for the 0.01% of driving we do that is longer than the range of the Ioniq battery. I travel on average 90km every day (to/from work), and the Ioniq works very well for that run. Cheap to run, reliable, easy to drive and comfortable. One complaint however - no spare wheel of any sort! I've been caught out twice now and that is a pain in the ____!

[@constructioneerful]

Hyundai are doing good. I feel the reviews coverage of charging speeds needed a slightly more thoughtful approach .. build and refer to a FullyCharged database to compare models.

[@jonathan6665]

That's what you need Bjørn Nyland for. Look him up on youtube. Fully charged are missing so many crucial details when they are reviewing cars.

[@johnsmout7802]

I don’t think Rory explains the charging very clearly. I think he was very confusing when talking about the AC charger when plugged into a DC rapid charger. No wonder so many new owners use the wrong plug at the services...

[@GeorgeThoughts]

Could you elaborate? I don't own an electric car, so when he was explaining I just heard that the Ioniq is compatible with both fast, rapid, and "slow" chargers whether they're charging stations or home charging docks, which seemed like good news. Is there more to it that wasn't explained?

[@johnsmout7802]

Hyfrith he conflates the AC with the DC charger. Watch the episode Maddie made for new EV drivers where this mistake is explained quite well.

[@MrAdopado]

I'm amazed this hasn't been re-edited. Puts FullyCharged in a very poor light. The quoted speed of of the onboard charger is totally irrelevant to the speed the car may be able to Rapid Charge on a DC charger!

[@nc3826]

It was almost comically and a little sad FC would have a reviewer that could make such a basic mistake... who claims to have reviewed so many different types of electric vehicles SMH

[@nevco8774]

@@nc3826 Clearly the reviewer got himself in a petrolhead mistake conflating DC charging dependent on batery properties since the charger is inside DC public station, the speed and the curve of charging being decided by internal car computer, this information being transmitted to the public charger at the handshaking procedure; with AC charging mostly happening at home performed at the mercy of built inside the car charger thus the speed is capped by it. However there is a history of reviewer being a petrolhead with his longer than 10 years discussion with Robert about EVs which started with clear criticism and ended with him joining the Robert's channel. Thus this evolution should give the reviewer some slack and extra credit since he just started his relationship with EVs.

[@MrAdopado]

Though most of the content was relevant and useful I had the impression that Rory has a little smirk now and again that seemed to indicate that perhaps reviewing such an "ordinary car" is ... just perhaps ... a tiny bit below him! It's fair enough to make a wry comment about performance when reviewing a car that purports to be a performance vehicle but when the car in question has no such pretensions it just seems crass. Rory clearly has professional TV presenting style but tripped up badly on the facts when describing the charging set up. The description of the car's onboard charger rate has absolutely nothing to do with the speed at which it can charge from a DC Rapid charger! For those not familiar with such things the onboard charger is only relevant when charging from AC chargers (at a very much slower rate). FullyCharged should re-edit this section to avoid confusion.

[@shonunezekiel]

About the tone of the review... there are quite a few electric cars that accelerate rapidly, and as this car has a 'sport' mode, so I think it was reasonable for Rory to point out that people should not buy it thinking it would respond like a Tesla... my 2013 Leaf has two modes (eco and normal), if the non-eco one was called 'sport' mode, I would have been pretty disappointed with the actual performance. I was also pleasantly surprised that he recommended the Kona instead, which I think was honest and useful, even though it would not have endeared him to the Ioniq marketing team. Each to their own though I suppose. Best wishes :-)

[@sie4431]

Isn't this the Ioniq that's been on sale since last year? Bit of a late review!

[@justjc51]

Yes it is the model introduced last year as the 2020 model. with the larger ~40 kWh battery that charges a bit slower but has longer range on a charge.

[@dalroth10]

Great review; well balanced, honest and very fair. I think this car will appeal to many drivers who are cost conscious but aren't interested in being able to get from 0 to 60 in less than 5 seconds. It was also very refreshing to hear no comments at all about "hard, scratchy plastics" - which seem to be a really big deal in many car reviews. Thanks Rory

[@bobabout256]

Cyclists and pedestrians don't have to "get out of the way" of car drivers! All road users have a right to be there. Cooperation and a decent attitude of mind towards other people would make this country a better place.

[@EH-vk5pp]

A refreshing read Kudos

[@dzhiurgis]

Pointless didactics. Yes we need to recover more roads for peds and bikes. No they don't have right to be middle of the road.

[@TiagoMorbusSa]

EDIT: disregard my comment. The two tons are with five passengers in, it actually weights 1,359-1,469 kg according to wikipedia. So it's not heavy at all, it's pretty decent. --"it's not a very heavy car"-- --It weighs literally two tons--

[@OllieW501]

Yeah i looked out at my Subaru legacy thinking, "erm 1950kg is much heavier than that".

[@TiagoMorbusSa]

@@OllieW501 The legacy is 35cm longer than the ioniq, and weighs 350kg less. yeah, the ioniq is much heavier.

[@OllieW501]

@@TiagoMorbusSa understandable since it's electric, but mine has the big 3litre H6 in it and 4wd, surprised it was still heavier. (I'm looking to change to a greener car, but I do love it still, plus, everything's still pricey)

[@GeoffSteeleAU]

It's 90kg lighter GVM than Model 3 SR+ and that doesn't seem much. Most other more powerful EVs are AWD so more likely to be sure footed on a corner I'd have thought. It's a puzzling observation. Any car where you arrive at an unfamiliar corner wearing too much pace would be dicey, so not sure where he was going with that...

[@SeoChangseok]

2 ton is GVW(Gross Vehicle Weight) which include 5 passenger and full of baggages. When Ioniq is in empty, then It weighs only 1,500kg

[@michaelclark3192]

I like how you guys are giving us some stats in metric as well as the imperial units. It's great that we're getting second generation EVs already that are improving with leaps and bounds. Petrol car development has been stagnant for years now.

[@glideman]

Whats a 7.2 kw onboard charger got to do with rapid charging? One of the most important pieces of information about a new electric car fumbled. The presenter needs to learn about electric cars before trying to tell others about them. We also know a family car isn't going to be as fast or agile as a supercar!

[@ianskeet]

Excellent family car. Efficiency is superb. Cheaper than a Kona, more space than a Zoe and far more efficient than a Leaf. Slower charging but I think this will prove useful for it's battery life and most will charge at home overnight. A comfortable drive with all the toys just not the hype.

[@cable1722]

I don't understand what's going on with this. This car is over a year old.

[@purple-porker-productions]

Lockdown!

[@koitorob]

It's Rory Reid, what do you expect? Probably only made this so he could plug his other channel...

[@fullychargedshow]

Yes I'm afraid we have been quite restricted on when/how we can do car reviews recently.

[@cable1722]

@@fullychargedshow thanks for reply. I was just a bit confused as it was presented as a new model.

[@fullychargedshow]

It is an updated version of the Ioniq. We are working very hard to get the newer EVs, but for some strange reason the car companies are being very slow to respond.

[@SeoChangseok]

Now I have driven 20,000km on my new Ioniq electric. One amazing thing of this car is efficiency. Now a days in Korea climate is around 30 deg. celcius. This car efficiency is around 9.0km/kWh. It is much more efficient than any other electric vehicle in Korea including Model 3. These days I can drive this car around 300km~350km in one charge(think that this car has only 39kWh battery) Now charging fee is increasing, I think this car is really good for economy and saving planet. But one big disadvantage of this car is lower DC charging speed. Old version is much faster than new one.

[@barney2001]

9 km/100kWh is spectacular. Are you using the air conditioning? Highway or city driving? We get about 12.9 at it's best in the Chevrolet Bolt, no air conditioning, rural roads (83kph)

[@SeoChangseok]

@@barney2001 I always use air conditioning. My daily routine is 20% rural roads + 80% in heavy traffic in city.(total average speed is about 20km/h) In spring and autumn, I can rarely see over 10km/kWh. In winter when I use heater 7~8km/kWh.

[@Flimzes]

The boot is not larger than the boot of the Model S Most electric cars do not fall over in the corners - the handling comments apply to all cars with batteries low down - which is every electric car made the last 20 years. All electric cars in the last 20 years are easy to plug in at home. Not a word on the decreased charging speed compared to the older model. Inconsistent voice volume through the video This sounds like a sales pitch, not a review, very disappointing after all the other high quality reviews on this channel

[@jasonfournier]

How does it have decreased charging speed? Could the old one do better than 50kW?

[@olearydc]

@@jasonfournier Yes, 70kW was the norm.

[@pavatottify]

I find that with all his reviews, if I remember rightly the Tesla 3 one was a farce, it was a big shame when I saw they employed him on this channel 😔

[@Flimzes]

@@pavatottify This is the first time I've seen him - sad to hear that this was already known beforehand - a big mistake on fullychargeds part I fear

[@MikeHarEV]

love mine, had it 5 months now. it's quick enough for me coming from a slow petrol Qashqai. it's a very nice car to drive, the tech is good and it has a good app to pre-heat the car and even alerts you if you forget to lock the car. I hear the rapid charging is slower than the first generation. I've only rapid charged a few times but it's noticeably slower in winter only get 22kw even when battery was quite low. Now in summer it picks up to 44kw when battery is low.

[@WelcomeToDERPLAND]

Still have it? any updated opinions on your Ioniq after a year of ownership?

[@MikeHarEV]

@@WelcomeToDERPLAND Hi, yes I still have it but my lease is up in Feb. I have very much enjoyed the car. I have grown to like the styling even the front 'grill'. I especially love the efficiency I have never reset one of the trips and I'm on 4.7 miles per kwh going into my second winter. It will probably be 4.6 miles per kwh after the full 2 years which is class leading. I have decided not to by it at the end of lease but have ordered the refresh Kona 64kwh which I hope I don't live to regret. I prefer the ioniq interior 100% and not that fond of SUV's. My reasons for not buying the ioniq was its 170 mile real world range and a rapid charge speed that is one of the slowest on the market now. If they did the Ioniq in 64kwh I would buy that I am sure. We have used the car for 4 UK holidays and several 300 mile trips in a day where we needed to stop and rapid charge and it has been fine. It is only that we would have to buy this car and we want the next car we buy to be able to do European road trips and I don't think this car us suitable for that amount of miles a day. The range/charges would take to long for us. If you can charge at home, are a 4 person max household (boot space) and not looking to euro Road trip this car is very much worth considering.

[@WelcomeToDERPLAND]

@@MikeHarEV Thanks for the experienced review Mike! Yeah, I'm currently planning on buying a car in the coming months, not sure If I'll finance or Lease, but this car is currently at the top of my lists since it's so much more affordable than the Kona/E-Niro or Ioniq 5/EV6 coming out next year, I really wanted to get an E-Niro/Konda or Ioniq 5 but the prices were just 10~20,000$ too steep for me, so I'll be having to fall back on this or a Leaf it seems. (they wanted 56,000$ 1,100$/monthly 72m for the Ioniq 5 and 41~51,000$ for the E-niro/Kona) The range does seem inadequate for long road trips, unless you don't mind taking long breaks to charge multiple times, which I might be able to stomach if it means cheap recharges compared to gas (its 5$ a gal. here!) and a reasonable total & monthly pricetag. I want to own the car outright but leasing might be a smarter option given that EV technology is constantly getting better and at the end of a 3~ year lease on an Ioniq, I might be able to finance an Ioniq 5 or maybe even something else, who knows, maybe the car market bubble will finally pop and prices will drop significantly or maybe some revolutionary EV tech will come out making current EV tech obsolete & cheap in comparison in the next decade!

[@MikeHarEV]

@@WelcomeToDERPLAND it's hard to judge what the future will look like. I have been waiting for prices to come down for years. I probably started researching EV's in 2017 and since then prices in the UK have just gone up not down. We seem to have hit a tipping point here and demand looks to be out stripping supply and shows no sign of changing any time soon. Prices of second hand EV's have even appreciated! Personally i think prices will remain high for 2-3 years until many more factories are pumping out more cells and cars besides just Tesla's

[@oliverskinner8962]

@@MikeHarEV sorry to comment on an old post but are you enjoying the 64kwh Kona ? Is it better than the ioniq, given the choice of the ioniq or a 39kwh Kona (not accounting for the better range of the 38kwh ioniq) which would you choose ? We've currently got a 2016 30kwh Tekna leaf that we've had since 2017, we're even considering a 40kwh leaf and it's difficult for us to decide between that and the ioniq. A reply would be greatly appreciated !

[@AMomcilo1]

This car is underrated, more manufacturers should build cars like this one.

[@Merritt7278]

Had mine for 2 months now and love this car, great to drive. So much tech on this car.

[@WelcomeToDERPLAND]

Any updated opinions after a year of ownership?

[@Merritt7278]

@@WelcomeToDERPLAND love the car and has been a pleasure to drive, I wish it had a bigger battery as it would then be the perfect car, still getting 150-170 in winter but I need slightly more so going for the Kona next. If you dont do a bucket load of miles though this car is great ,I have loved it.

[@WelcomeToDERPLAND]

@@Merritt7278 Thanks for the updated review Marc, I'm actually looking to get an EV aswell and originally was trying to get a Kona/E-Niro or even Ioniq 5, but after meeting with some dealerships and negotiating prices, they were just far too high, and stock was always low/out. (They wanted 56,000 base on the Ioniq 5, 1,100$ a month for 5~ years to finance it | 41,000~51,000 on an E-Niro for EX/Premium trim - 350$ a month lease for 3 years with 5K down. | all Hyundai dealerships I checked with were out of stock for Kona EV's) So I've revised my options & am now looking at potentially getting one of these or a Leaf, but the Leaf's Chademo charger has put me off for now, so this one is currently at the top of my list.

[@Merritt7278]

@@WelcomeToDERPLAND I would get one of these, its the most efficient EV out there, any other questions I will only be too happy to answer.

[@nc3826]

Ok review but confusing the Level 2 AC charging rate with DC fast charging at the end means... I hope FC gets better reviewers...

[@gabriellundmark]

I'm so glad Rory is back on KZbin and with fully charged! He's a great presenter but his appearances on Top Gear were often awkward and unnatural. You can tell he enjoys this a lot more. No forced banter.

[@nickhickson8738]

The TGs post Clarkson and Co are/were embarrassing in the extreme.

[@jwvandegronden]

I said it before and many with me, but what a great addition you are to Fully Charged! For anyone less authoritative and with less command of his or her style of reviewing, and simply less well versed in the car industry, would have had a hard time filling Johnny’s shoes. And I know you aren’t filling his, but simply joined FC on your own merits but for us (or me at least) Johnny left, you came in, to me that’s a switch ;-) But man you are a joy to watch, to listen to, to follow you in your discovery of new cars and not one single moment I think “what’s he on about?!”. The opposite is true, I want to hear more, love your cheeky or honest yet kind jabs at the cars you review. So, even though the water is well under the bridge, the milk is not just spilled but even already turned into a dry sour patch, and the jury already went home on this one, I still felt the need to cover you in these guirlandes of thankfulness and sheer giddiness you actually joined FC. thought you should know, even though you already do of course and weren’t even contemplating it anymore until this git brought it up again... thanks mate!

[@mmatthews5707]

Did you really say “...to warn cyclists and pedestrians to get out of the way.” Have you suddenly turned into Jeremy Clarkson?

[@petebarnesTaiChi]

He did. Unfortunately the prevailing attitude amongst the majority of motorists is that nothing must get in their way when they are driving on the road, particularly pedestrians, horses and cyclists. It's one reason for so much road rage and high blood pressure.

[@whette_fahrtz]

Yeah someone needs to go read the highway code again

[@simon7790]

That made me cringe. I walk and cycle country lanes with kids.

[@whette_fahrtz]

@BullShark I hope that's sarcasm

[@petebarnesTaiChi]

@BullShark That's because they don't have to. How many electric vehicles drive on the road and DON'T pay road tax

[@edmaluf]

I love Rory. I love Fully Charged. This is a win-win situation. 👍

[@greyareaRK1]

Some of your information seems a bit outdated. Most EVs have their battery packs mounted underneath, supported with stiffer frames. With a lower centre of mass and better weight distribution overall, they generally outperform their ICE counterparts 'in the corners.'

[@kentohlund4966]

Wow! so the Hyundai IONIQ have a bigger boot space then a Tesla model S that was interesting. Robert and the Fully Charge crew please take down this video and edit out stupid false misinformation.

[@EdBonds]

PLEASE DO!

[@justjc51]

It is interesting that the Model 3 got upgraded to be a Model S in Rorys mind and that nobody seemed to catch the error.

[@ramblerandy2397]

When he said "Model S", I immediately thought, "He means Model 3". The Model S boot/trunk almost registers as a small cave.

[@mg7685]

@@ramblerandy2397 Not to mention the hidden cave under the cave.

[@ramblerandy2397]

@@mg7685 Indeed.

[@TheKays]

We love your channel, always quality videos. Thank you!

[@MRRookie232]

Great video Rory! Loved the music too

[@grandpalarry7776]

Going into a curve (bend) at an inappropriate speed can be a problem in any vehicle. Being electric poses no larger a problem than does a gas or diesel powered car or truck. The driver always needs to be aware of how fast they are moving, their car's capabilities, and their own driving abilities. Yes, if a car that can't go as fast as a different car in theory it would handle the curve better, but I don't know of any road-worthy cars that are so underpowered as to be safe in all driving situations.

[@bobf711]

At 8.19 Rory says - "You can drive the car with a combination of the brake pedal and the fingers of your left hand..." Nope, sorry Rory but that won't get you anywhere. Accelerator and re-gen/left hand maybe.

[@ianjames3078]

Having a 7.2kW charger doesn’t correspond to the speed of charging at a rapid. Apart from that a good balanced review. For clarity, the monthly price of mine was £250 v £450 for the Kona.....so it was a no brainer. The ride is ok, the performance average, getting locked out when you leave the car on and get out of the car WITH the key is annoying as hell (have to open the fob, get the key out, removed the lock cover on the door handle), plus stories of 12V Batteries dying are more than just anecdotal, but also occur in other EVs. It’s a car that has enough range for me and on a good tariff at home it translates to 1p/mile ‘fuel’ costs. (OctopusGo 5p/kWh, getting 5 miles per kWh), at £1.20/litre an ICE equivalent would need to get ............540 mpg ish. Great to see your realism, positivity and enthusiasm on Fullycharged Rory.

[@xtairsoft]

nice explanation of the mpg / electricity costs, thanks

[@ianjames3078]

Gear Parts thanks for the feedback 👍

[@MrJnholmes1]

Love this car, just wish they would use the 64 kw battery in this! Informative and enjoyable review, Rory

[@whocares264]

yes i agree , with the 64 kw battery and it might get a 300 mile plus range

[@gregoryosullivan]

The current 64kWh battery simply wont fit in the Ioniq platform.

[@bartjsmit]

We took delivery of a 20 plate IONIQ last Friday and for us the nicest feature by far is auto hold. Entrance into the village is a clutch grinding hill with a traffic light at the top, which the Hyundai makes short shrift of. Push on the brake (if you can remember it after one-pedal driving), auto hold lights green, and no more rolling back.

[@troyseagondollar4565]

I have a 2017 hybrid. Here is my review. It's a great car. That is all.

[@andrewpaulhart]

Electric cars fall over in corners? What are you talking about?

[@spooks196]

He means it all goes wrong in corners because drivers don’t realize they are carrying the weight of the batteries, and without engine noise it’s a little harder to gauge your momentum. Think back to Richard Hammond and the Rimac incident.

[@Alex-cw3rz]

Have you heard that sometimes words aren't always by the definition. All he means is Tesla's and some other high torque EV's are shit at turning corners, which they are.

[@logicalChimp]

'fall over' = fail / not very good - slang usage.

[@spooks196]

Geoff Willingham Exactly that.

[@fishndive1961]

@@Alex-cw3rz like the Model 3 that keeps up with so many high performance cars on the track? That sort of shit turning of corners?

[@AndroidAndr3w]

Great improvements to range and efficiency. Hate the grill.

[@EngineerWithGuitar]

I own this car. I also hated the new grill. It really bothered me when you look at the car on the screen. When you see the car in person, it's not that bad, because you look down at it from a height of 5 to 6 feed above ground. After 1 week I was so thrilled with the rest of the car I couldn't give two sh*ts about the grille anymore.

[@shakealgoritham861]

@@EngineerWithGuitar Hmm. That's interesting.

[@chrisluis7415]

My Samsung note 20 with protection fits perfectly and it's one of the biggest phones out there

[@benellis7427]

Ive had one of these for a while now and its superb. The used prices are incredibly good value, I think the main gripe when new was the price. I think many are put off by the 38kwh battery but don't be, it will give you the same range if not better as the latest 50kwh cars.

[@accesser]

Really nicely presented review, great work guys

[@Minibikebenji]

isn't this a model out since this time last year? 38kw hour battery is not new in 2020 to my understanding

[@FieryToast1]

From the video Bjorn Nyland did on this car, it actually charges slower on a rapid charger than the old Ioniq, (as in lower KW). I know at the time he was planning to do a follow up to see if the old Ioniq would actually be better for long journeys, but don't know if he ever did.

[@pantzman]

I ordered the Ioniq a few days ago. I felt it was a better choise compared to the Kona. The Kona felt smaller (boot at least) but it can also have load on the roof. Since the Ioniq is going out of production all the cars are sold as the premium model which has everything included. The Ioniq premium (included winter wheels) cost about the same as the entry level Kona Trend Standard Range. So it has similar battery, range and performance as the Ioniq. But feature vice it seems to be lacking compared to the Ioniq premium. So we went with the Ioniq.

[@ganitclasses5652]

For city drive and especially from family perspective, it's a very practical car. It offers a decent range , comfortable back seats and the larger boot space. Keep up the good pace Hyundai

[@justjc51]

The IONIQ does as well on the highway as it does in the city, as many owners will tell you. The first generation was loved for it ability to drive efficiently at highway speeds, something that has not changed with the new model, with the big difference being that Hyundai has sacrificed charging speed for more battery capacity in the new car. The efficiency is so that the Hyundai IONIQ and its ~40 kWh battery have beaten the 62 kWh Nissan LEAF e+ in real life tests when the speed goes above the 90 kph limit.

[@vc2616]

Enjoyed the review by Rory 👍

[@ΘάνατοςΧορτοφάγος]

I think itvwas demonstrated it was not better. The bigger battery gives it more range, but charging time has increased, making it less fast on longer roadtrips. For everyday driving, its a great efficient car. How are delivery times now though?

[@randomrud]

It is getting better every year.

[@MCSMIK]

2020, I test drove this car in October 2019. This video is a year late. This Ioniq charges slower than the old car (almost two times slower actually). It's great for local trips I think but charging will get slow on long trips

[@markbainton]

Ioniq is perfect. How often do most Pepe need the bigger battery of the Kona. This will do easy 160 miles at 70 mph. Plus smaller battery to top up. I love mine

[@sunsetlights100]

Is that 200kph range total?

[@markbainton]

Mine currently round town does 215 miles. I did 160 miles at 70mph on motorway and still had some left it's so efficient

[@AnonYmous-rw6un]

What you mean is that you don't drive far so you don't care that the DCFC is poor, and much worse than on the previous version.

[@hamshackleton]

160 miles - is 60 miles short of a round trip, for me! Kona still has my vote.

[@markbainton]

@@hamshackleton obviously all depends on your needs but for many the extra is not essential. All EV have compromises so I guess it's what suits your needs.

[@colinphillipson4830]

As others have pointed out your charging quotes need improving.

[@davidsommen1324]

Wish you would have gone into some more detail about the slower charging speed compared to the 'old' version. You can use your platform to urge auto makers to improve their electric cars!

[@DakarFourByFour]

"It's not a very heavy car" - 1970Kg...

[@malcolmstreet1]

That was gross weight, ie fully loaded.

[@Cheekymonkeytoday]

Rory on Fully Charged? got my sub!

[@pauljpr]

Disappointed in both Rory and Fully Charged for releasing a video with so many errors. We trust Fully Charged to give clear accurate facts, this lets you all down.

[@koitorob]

So electric cars all roll when they come to a bend do they?

[@lelisamohamed4355]

Tesla model 3 and porches latest electric car actually handles better than most car on the road

[@jonathan6665]

Only problem is they ruined the DC charging speed. The old Ioniq is superior to the new one, as it can go further, much faster than the new one, even though it has less range. But it's still the king of efficiency in the ev world.

[@Tom_baz]

Great review, I've had mine for 3 months now and I agree with everything said. One thing worth noting is the price as these regularly go on cheap lease deals, I got mine for £1100 down £195 per month for a 2 year lease. With running costs you will struggle to find a cheaper car, even a bog standard ford fiesta is more expensive. Admittedly the current Ioniq lease deals are about £50 a month more than i'm paying, but they are still cheap for the car you are getting. The list price might be similar to the Kona or Leaf but most people lease EVs nowadays and both of these are significantly more expensive

[@geralddavison]

Who did you get that with? I got a Leaf on a cheap lease deal.... I'm interested in what companies seem to get these deals.

[@ThomasWoodDesigns]

I got the same lease deal, picked the car up just before lockdown began and honestly it's the best car I've ever had, and extremely affordable given how much I was spending on petrol before I had it. Great little car.

[@Tom_baz]

@@geralddavison LeasingOptions were the broker but Arval supplied the car

[@mralistair737]

i wonder i that's cheap enough to get taxi's onto them. it looks like a good choice for an uber driver, though i think they'd normally buy second hand.

[@AnonYmous-rw6un]

Only if the driver is OK with the bad DCFC.

[@gp2003gt]

Great review, rather enjoyed it.

[@mahaloaloha6819]

Finally getting a little attention even though Hyundai/Kia is the one of the few companies launched EV and fuel cell from the beginning.

[@onlineo2263]

This car does not have a bigger boot than a model S. It has a much smaller boot!

[@philiphambley7787]

Do you think he meant Model 3?

[@MikeDeeee]

@@philiphambley7787 Pribably, and then without the frunk, and without the lower compartment in the Model 3. I think Model 3 boot is still larger, but with the hatch, the Ioniq is much more practical.

[@MrAdopado]

@@philiphambley7787 Yes, he almost certainly meant the Model 3 ... and of course the 3 doesn't have a hatch (which would be a more helpful/meaningful piece of comparative information).

[@joe8572]

11:01 Rory mistakenly said 7.2kW onboard (AC) charger charging with the fast/quick/rapid charger (50kW DC charging) in 50-ish minutes. DC charging will simply bypass the onboard AC charger.

[@chrispenn715]

Thank goodness for a sensible view on EV acceleration - thank you for a grown-up review :-)

[@ironfacemusic]

Great video! Thank for introducing this semi pearl 💪🏼

I would like to know how much power you got while charging. TeslaBjørn has shown that this new iteration is much longer to charge than the previous one, which could take a real 70kW.

[@MikeDeeee]

It takes approximately 15 minutes or 75% longer to charge 21 kWh on the new Ioniq (34.3) minutes compared to the old Ioniq (19.6 minutes).

[@MrFurriephillips]

You say smaller is less practical, but it’s the reverse, for me! Practical, is such a subjective term & needs context.

[@mateobabaja4524]

I love this channel... great work 👌

[@michaelan9688]

Excellent host. Thanks for the great review

[@masterofthepinkside]

I really like this review. good job, guys.

[@Kniffel101]

Rory is cool + the IONIQ is cool = The video is super cool! =P

[@lotusgav]

50-60 AUD down here makes it a bit painful for a second car...

[@jay-uo2bi]

It's really annoying. I was looking to purchase a car last year. I wanted an EV, still do. I don't do much driving and even for the driving I actually do, it's suburban driving. It's just a really good ICE car costed me $32 drive away (Kia Cerato GT) wheras I would have had to spent another $20k for an EV. Obviously running costs would be significantly less, but not $20k less. My next car in around 6 or 7 years will definitely be an EV however.

[@philstpier3495]

I have mine in Sport all the time, and it feels very quick to me! Also, the phone charging bin is way big enough, I have a note 10 plus with a case and it fits just fine....

[@achenarmyst2156]

Why don‘t you use normal and eco as well? Saving energy should be natural to an e-driver. We don‘t have eco-e-power in abundance. 😉

[@lenn9029]

Love this car! I've driven 12k kilometers now and it doesn't disappoint :) Great review. Didn't know you could full stop using those pedals! Thx for the tip. Will try out those engine sounds as well.

[@WelcomeToDERPLAND]

Any updated opinions after a year of ownership?

[@frankstocker5475]

Rory & Johhny would make a great team.

[@Tom55data]

Wow, Rory on fullycharged !

[@PlattySF]

Brilliant quick guide wit some positive comments

[@michaelbedard7859]

I am a new fan of you. Great review.....

[@killercarpcatcher]

I prefer the Ioniq to the Kona as it's not an SUV. My only problem with the Ioniq is that it still doesn't have a battery option to get above 200 miles of range per charge. I'm also not sure about that grille. It looks like a bit of an after thought.

[@rubberroast1598]

Where I am the Kona EV is about $7000 Cdn more than the Ioniq EV equivalent. Do they cost the same in the UK as mentioned in Video?? One is a sedan and other a SUV....would expect them to be same $$

[@johnbradshaw5900]

Hounding got it right, make the car very aerodynamic and efficient. It amazes me so many EVs aren't especially aerodynamic or efficient and prefer to lug huge batteries around.

[@JackSmith-cl9eo]

9/10 Excellent car. We tend to hire a lot of cars as we only need one about 5 or 6 times a year. Over the past several years I have tried a lot of new hatchback models (Golf, Octavia, Focus ST, Megane etc. etc.) This is one of the best cars I have ever driven. It is such a nice drive and has tech that goes way beyond its price point. The only drawback to this car is its looks. Its ugly as hell. But the ride is sublime, its so well balanced in the corners and the cockpit is just a really nice place to be. The steering wheel feels amazing, the dashboard graphics are really cool, the number of seating options including lumbar support match that of an expensive german car and everytime I drove it I thought damn I want this car in my life. Until I stepped out and looked at it and realised why I hadn't pulled the trigger yet.

[@christiansteinweg5192]

Awesome video! Made me change the colour from phantom black to thyphoon silver.

[@chantel6394]

Impressive video. Do you recommend this as a first car?

[@MrEddiekessler]

Hi Rory, A balanced review of another EV. Well presented. It's a shame they don't offer this car with a much bigger battery/Larger range. It could be a class contender.

[@salipander6570]

Nothing new. Better watch Bjorn Nyland on the topic of charging the old vs the new Ioniq. The old one charges faster!

[@MrLikerBiker]

Why are LED lights still a thing? White LEDs first appeared in 1996. The car also has a steering wheel but that is not listed as a feature.

[@neiltaylor5588]

Richard Hammond knows all about falling over in the corners driving electric cars.

[@MyMateYourMate]

We're now in 2024 and these are selling for peanuts - such an absolute bargain. I picked up a premium model with 45K on the clock for just £11,000!! All the cars are rolling off the PCP deals and dealerships seem to be shifting them out the door to car supermarkets as fast as they can. I won't be going back to ICE. On the subject of "not being a sporty car" I've just progressed from a 1.6l Petrol Zafira and by comparison the Ioniq Electric is like hot sh*t off a shovel!

[@edwood5535]

I'm on the same boat considering this car at a similar price to yourself, I think it might be a good entry to the EV world. Hope it's working out for you.