Hyundai Kona 64 kWh acceleration and noise test

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[@Ghruuul]

Yay, more Kona content please! Like what's new in 2020, Bluelink App, etc.

[@anthonyc8499]

I'm really appreciating these acceleration tests. Thanks!

[@dekmaskin]

Taking delivery on my Kona in 2 weeks. Loving these videos!

[@CoolSilver]

I've had Nexen tires before. They lasted a while and wasn't bad. Good results for Kona

[@RobSquared]

Thanks for the great reviews! I bought my first EV (2017 Ioniq) after watching your videos. I have loved every minute driving it. I'm now a few days from trading it in for a 2020 Kona. Keep up the great work!

[@dimmate7474]

goodos Bjorn, for sharing your sheeeeet and metrics; not many guys do likewise outhere... Brilliant work!

[@bencole4272]

Great work Bjorn.

[@sungdaeher3792]

Hei Bjørn! I am Korean!! We have three tire makers. HANKOOK, KUMHO, NEXEN. Nfera is not premium tire. Resonalbly priced. Kona is pretty cool car!! I also watched your video regards hydrogen station. :) Hyundai will make more E cars. Collaborate with SAMSUNG. Let us see what will happen.

[@TheFynboen]

I have the Kona with Nexen tires. What I did, it had noise reduction layer sprayed on, before the rust protection. Cannot be done after. 👍🏻

[@patriotbarrow]

I bought a pair of Nexens to fill the gap left by worn out Bridgestone Turanza, and the Nexens are marginally noisier but they roll a lot better and grip is identical.

[@OrganicStuff1]

There’s something arousing hearing that launch 🚀

[@skyfox77]

If its possible somehow, please test a Kia E-Niro with the original Michelin Primacy 3 vs Goodyear EfficientGrip Performance 2, I have heard some claims in Swedish forums that those Goodyear tires makes a huge difference on road noise. And thanks for another great video :)

[@aac6563]

The MG ZS EV is pleasantly surprised in many ways. Leaving out the luxury EVS, it is the best acceleration from 0 to 50 k / h and very quiet. It is a great option.

[@DG-uv3zw]

And great price...Imagine MG with almost EUR 10k of incentives like in Germany !?! That car would be steel for that money...(I reckon much less then EUR 20k with incentives)

[@peterrupert1]

I have a Kia Niro and 45000 miles on Nexen Tyres. Excellent and no issues

[@kristofferhamre818]

Could you test the acceleration and noise in the Hyundai Ioniq 28kWh and 38kWh?

[@ouch1011]

I replaced my 2017 Soul EV with a 2020 Kona EV and one of the things that was really surprising was how much louder the Kona is than the old Soul. They have the same Nexan tires (different name than what is on the Kona you're testing). The Soul was an excellent highway vehicle, ironically considering its short range. The Kona is a big loud and the suspension is a bit firm. It's notably louder than my 2019 Bolt with Michelin Energy Saver (self sealing) tires. The Konas acceleration is limited by the fact that it ramps up the power really slowly, even when it doesn't spin the tires. It's especially noticeable when you have a lot of weight in the vehicle (like 4 adults). The power delivery off the line is much more like an ICE vehicle, again, even when the traction control does not intervene. The Bolt is better off the line and the traction control is not as intrusive (it allows some wheel spin rather than immediately cutting power and applying brake at the first sign of slip) but slows down at higher speeds since it is a physically much smaller motor with more gear reduction.

[@laxlax9960]

No it's not like a ice vehicle accelerating. I test drove one few days ago and it was RAPID. Nothing keeps up at the lights up untill 30mph

[@cap0815]

Nexen built a plant in Czech Republic maybe for support the Hyundai plant in Czech Republic and the KIA plant in Slovakia

[@pezomarko]

Could you do the regen deceleration tests as well, for example how much it takes from 100-0 with regen only (incl. different modes)

[@iangardner2311]

Bjorn do you have opinion on the various tires for dry, wet, noise or know where to find a comparion.

[@Doggepe]

Will you do a range test with the 2020 Kona with the claimed increase range from 449 to 484? Would be interesting to see your 90km/h test and see how much it improves from the previous 510km

[@WrathChild-NZ]

doesn't the new leaf have a 160kw motor?

[@SEOcretario]

*Haircut for the win* 👍😜

[@BoopBobBeep]

Handsome Bjorn!

[@DocKenRunner42195]

Would it be possible for you to list your top 5 EV you've tested so far in 2020. Bjorn's Mid year top 5?

[@LarsPallesen]

"I have everything in the sheeeet here!" *lol*

[@tomh..]

I've got exactly the same car. 😃 But mine is manufactured in Europe. Acceleration under 7sec 0-100 is still amazing 👏😍

[@kristianp.405]

Nexen N-Fera is standard on Porsche Macan. They are really good tires

[@martinsch3940]

Please do the Kia e-Niro MY2020 as well!!!

[@swedenevguru8483]

3 Phase Onboard charger also new on Kona and Niro 2020. Then they claim better range on European made ones and new software code with better effiecieny for they use all drive train to heat battery.

[@sniper200478]

Nexen N Fera SU1 is CB72. Michelin Primacy 4 XL S1 is AA68. Sadly i get with Nexen too. Next spring i will buy the Michelin. But for this price it's shame that they sell it with that tire. Or it could be optional the Michelin at least.

[@snuffles_au]

Do you think they addressed/resolved the winter issues affecting the charge port cover?

[@bjornnyland]

They have added extra rubber seal. But some Norwegian customers are still reporting snow issues.

[@heidiwilks5316]

The Korean manufacturers are underreporting acceleration in all their EVs -- The Kona, Soul and Niro are all significantly faster in the real world than on paper. My guess is that they're doing that to avoid EV's getting overly noticed (i.e., more $$$) by insurance companies.

[@98dizzard]

I personally think that they are reporting performance with a lower SoC. That way it meets official specs all the time, not just at full charge. Saves people complaining that the car can't meet the specifications for a lot of the time.

[@7necromancer]

The MG ZS EV is crazy in the 0-60 km/h range

[@tkermi]

I like Continental tires. Good overall performance imo.

[@mlee6050]

Really? I been trying to refind the tyre I found that said great wet and dry performance

[@tkermi]

@@mlee6050 Well at least I have been happy with mine. And they won many tests as well and are quite durable. Mine are now getting old though. They are Continental ContiPremiumContact 5 but the latest model is number 6.

[@tkermi]

@@mlee6050 Oh, and I use them only as summer tires because here in Finland we need separate winter tires. So I don’t know how they perform in snow or below 0°C.

[@mlee6050]

@@tkermi should do fine then, here in UK we rarely get that cold

[@tkermi]

@@mlee6050 Yeah, should work great there. It's weird though that some tires are quiet in some cars but then they might be more noisy than competitors in other cars. I mean even with same size/profile/speed class. And even when taken out and being installed again (so not because of bad installation to rims). This must be something to do with the structure born resonances being different in different cars.

[@badfaceday7509]

I got the Firestone Roadhawk on my Kona 64KwH (2020 Advanced Premium), and the wheel noise is audibly lower compared to the Nexen. Likewise, the grip is significantly better. And then there are a lot of features that you have never mentioned. If, for example, you have Break Hold applied, the hope brake is activated automatically when the car is switched off.

[@badfaceday7509]

If anyone has questions about Kona EV 64KwH feel free to ask questions on my Instagram: kona_electric_2020_denmark. Then I answer as best I can. Or follow me in my experiences for better or worse as a new EV owner as of April '20

[@nimajji3517]

Is the kona in india same as the one in other countries?

[@badfaceday7509]

nim ajji . As far as I know it is the same. Some models are made in Korea and some in Hungary or Chezk Republic (I think it is) and there can be a small difference. for example on the standard tires fitted. But otherwise 2 battery capacities with 3 models in 4 equipment variants. And some use choices. Leather seats, bluelink, Onboard Charger upgrade and so on. And the 2020 model with 64 KWh battery can be mounted with tow hook for trailer.

[@vince376]

@@nimajji3517 Two variants of Kona are sold in some markets. The 39KWh and 64 KWh batteries

[@nimajji3517]

@@vince376 would there be a difference in acceleration between the variants?

[@AWildBard]

I've never seen this maroon color in Korea. Nice color Almost every car in the country is white, black, or grey. Nexen has a new factory in Europe - Zactec, Czech Republic Maybe they will go on Hyundai cars in the future?

[@richardhurn8694]

If you use Launch mode on the Kona you will shave another .3 Second off the 0-100kms.. Press Footbrake, Bury Accelerator in Carpet. Release foobrake when you are ready to go, pickup is smoother and less wheelspin, car seems to control better than when just pressing the accelerator..

[@Crana]

Other than this comment I haven't been able to find any info on a "launch mode" on the Kona, 0 - 60 tests are rare enough

[@themaster7993]

this mean that this car have 170kw (226hp)?

[@argobas]

What ODB2 Adapter are you using?

[@bjornnyland]

OBDII LX

[@argobas]

Thanks! Ordering one for my eNiro

[@thomaseriksson3182]

👍

[@jonasrosengren9093]

Even if I understand what we are trying to explain when talking of torque, I can assure that the actual numbers don't give much clue. The only thing that counts is to get down as much "power" to the road as possible. n a petrol engine you normally measure torque on the engine shaft (why diesel cars usually have a higher torque but lower revs). On an electric car it makes no sense to even talk about it. Better would be to mention "Force" in kN. It's not a criticism to you Björn as I know you are very scientific in your test. No, it's more meant to the other s.c. motor journalists and their followers. I was lucky to drive a Kona for 200km around Umeå last week, which was my first experience of driving electric. Stepping back into my rental car was literally as entering a steam engine after that. Thanks for good true tests

[@bjornnyland]

I partly agree with you. But torque is in fact important. But not too important to onlyl mention motor torque. What matters is wheel torque after the reduction gear.

[@jonasrosengren9093]

@@bjornnyland Yes, wheel torque is more or less equivalent to Force with similar wheel diameters. Do you by any chance know how and where the torque on an electric car is measured? What if you have two motors (etc etc)? In the acceleration test it appears (by only watching the video) that you have constant torque/force/acceleration up to around 70 km/h. Above this point it probably reach is max power. The car weights 2 tons and has a constant acceleration of 4.5 m/s/s up to 70, which means 9kN. If you convert it to wheel torque assuming wheel radius of 0.3m, you would get 1350 Nm per wheel. No exact numbers but ballpark..

[@sx725]

Would it be faster if the regen was at level 0?

[@98dizzard]

Why would that make any difference?

[@TwentsHoarau]

Depending on the software. It could be faster because at level 0 and sport mode, you switch to another map to deliver max power. But at 100% acceleration pedal you go to this map anyway. So during the 0.001s between 0 to 100%, you will lose a little of power... Technically, it would be faster BUT no way to measure the 0.000001s difference ;)

[@GraemeMcKeague]

What app are you using for the Kona?

[@infinityNmore]

I'm also interested to know which app it is, especially as I already have the ODB2 dongle 😉

[@joelsormus]

@@infinityNmore App is Dragy

[@nimajji3517]

What do you guys mean by "app for kona"?

[@bjornnyland]

play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ovz.carscanner&hl=en

[@infinityNmore]

Bjørn Nyland thanks 🙏

[@maxr6470]

Driving my 2020Kona in Sportmode feels like burning tyres whenever i just look at my Pedal.

[@brecherxp9795]

thats true

[@Alrukitaf]

Anyone care to weigh in about the 13 fires in recent times?

[@timstruppi7897]

Try D Mode on LEAF instead of B and you also get 6,9. I dont know any electric car drivers that go faster than 120km/h btw. Interesting is only 80-120km/h range.

[@bjornnyland]

Proof?

[@tuc-dh4df]

MG for the win, maybe because 450 volt motor?

[@seekanddestroy9111]

Is this a 200hp version?

[@bjornnyland]

yes

[@seekanddestroy9111]

@@bjornnyland I saw somewhere that it has 5-6s 0-100

[@wedrive-derblogfurelektrom2899]

Could you test e-Golf sound again with summer tyres? It is missing in the google sheeeeeeeet... ?! - it is very comfy and not noisy... would be a great indicator for your list...

[@jestronixhanderson9898]

I wanted to stay loyal to Leaf, sorry but Kona is my next EV :) 2 more years of leaf and its Kona time , I wonder in 2022 what Nissan Ariya will be like, already looks too big and power hungry. Only awd is luring me. Front wheel drive is EV is terrible idea, when it rains it’s game over.

[@andreitataran3969]

You should turn off the regen . I noticed you had it on level 3. That slowed you a bit.

[@bjornnyland]

Nope. Regen has nothing to do with acceleration.

[@andreitataran3969]

@@bjornnyland The truth is I did not made measurements. My sensation is that with regen off ,the Kona EV sprint is faster. It might be just a sensation, I will check it . See You !

[@OlavAlexanderMjelde]

I put now 235/40-19 PS4 tires on My 3P, now that it has both KW V3 with 1.5" drop and 19"s, its more comfortable, it handles better and has even less body roll. If I didnt drop the KW V3 to its 1.5" it actually was less comfotable, as the KW V3 perloads the springs when you set ride height, so its smart to try out the 1.5" drop. Here is my KW V3 drop calculator if someone buys the KW V3 for AWD Tesla Model 3: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1XJJ6KltAUwTnz6gGBlEGihwpKBt36kf2PYEJdzgwBy8/edit?usp=sharing

[@ivyeori]

Please Kia E-Niro :)

[@verboseEV]

Alex ً + E-Soul we need all 3 :)

[@pezomarko]

and UVO app

[@georgef6256]

and review the tapping, creaking, whining, pitch noise underneath the E Niro and E Kona. www.insideevsforum.com/community/index.php?threads/tapping-or-creaking-noise-when-coasting-at-low-speed.5915/ www.insideevsforum.com/community/index.php?threads/high-pitched-motor-noise.5510/

[@scottwills4698]

Looks like the Kona limits the power off the line then adds power as you accelerate.

[@nimajji3517]

Thats a bit counter intuitive considering the wheel spin right? Shouldn't it have lessee wheel spin if it's being limited since it's 200kgs heavier than mg?

[@scottwills4698]

nim ajji look at the power gauge on the left, even at 100% throttle it starts with at least 3 power bars short then they increase as the speed increases. You can wheel spin with 60bhp. It’s the problem with FWD cars.

[@nimajji3517]

@@scottwills4698 oh right. Good observation there. How would the wheel spin be eliminated all together though? More grippy tyres? That would affect the power consumption though

[@scottwills4698]

nim ajji yes, grippy tyres would be a good idea, but i guess Hyundai are not that bothered about the 0-60mph time.

[@scottwills4698]

Daniel I it’s measuring how much power from the battery it’s delivering of the potential 100%. I have the same gauge in my Ioniq. It won’t be showing HP as it cannot measure it just power from the battery. Many FWD cars limit power under 30 mph or so to increase stability / traction.

[@stefback166]

Micheline tyres 😅🤣 it’s Michelin 👍 Top as always

[@bjornnyland]

Wow, are we nitpicking today too?

[@stefback166]

Bjørn Nyland oh mon dieu 😆 I’m just kidding, don’t take it personal. Cheers

[@MelvinMyla]

I only watch his videos for the Shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiet 😂

[@HansEuski]

Great car, wanted to test and buy, But the strange board inside stabs my knee. I'm 1.90 tall and that made it impossible to buy. To less room for my legs. Why do they such an shieeet :-(

[@skyfox77]

Maybe try the Kia E-Niro instead

[@HansEuski]

skyfox77 yes that should be an option. Thanks.