Hyundai Sonata 2011 Automatic Transmission Fluid ATF Second Fluid Drain And Fill Part #2

[@richardlloydusa]

@Shawn Sykes Approximately 1000 miles, sometimes 500. The point was to have the new fluid wash the transmission. Thanks

[@theedgeofbreakup5192]

Thank you so much for this video. I just finished the job on my 2012 Sonata with 100,000 miles. The color of mine was dark red. I used the Valvoline as well $28 at Auto Z. Hardest part of the job was removing the plastic engine cover.

[@richardlloydusa]

You are most welcome. Thank you for watching, commenting and the kind words. All the best.

[@Danny-et3kq]

Richard ,allow me to share my expertise with you : When new, automatic transmission fluid should be red, The red dve is added so the assembly plant can identify it as transmission fluid and distinguish it from engine oil or antifreeze. The red dve, which is not an indicator of fluid quality, is not permanent. As the vehicle is driven the transmission fluid will begin to look darker. The color may eventually appear light brown. Danny

[@richardlloydusa]

Good to know. Thanks

[@ericktorres7514]

Richard, Thank you so much for all the information. I check out under the hood of my Elantra and all the drain hole, filler bolt and drain bolt are spot on. I will be replacing my Tranny Fluid tomorrow. I am hoping that it will fix the surging when the gear shift, if not going to replace input/output speed sensor, last resort will be the transmission check with the dealer since it si still under warranty. Thanks

[@richardlloydusa]

+Erick Torres You are welcome. I will be doing this on my KIA Sorento and it still looks the same. Make sure you get a long funnel to fill the case. It made it much easier on my car. Thanks.

[@nancym122]

I have a used 2011 Hyundai Sonata 2.0T it has about 164,000 miles on it. Would you advise to get the transmission fluid changed even if I don't know if it has ever been changed?

[@richardlloydusa]

I don't think it would hurt as long as it is done correctly and you use the correct fluid. I'm sure there is tons of clutch material in your transmission fluid at this point. Newer fluid is better fluid. Thank you so much for commenting. I appreciate it greatly. All the best.👍😀

[@nancym122]

Thank you

[@counsela9240]

Is there a filter in there and do you need to replace it?

[@jm1272jm]

Thanks again for all your hard work. Let us know when you change your ATF once again!

[@richardlloydusa]

You are welcome. I plan on doing it again in a week or so. Thanks for watching.

[@ariannafrazier53]

What’s is the difference from the plug on the bottom and the plug on the side I want to change my own transmission fluid and not sure which plug to take out

[@richardlloydusa]

The bottom plug is for draining the fluid and the one on the side is for determining the the correct amount fluid or when you have put enough in. Thank you so much for commenting and watching. I appreciate it greatly. Subscribe, Click The Bell and stay tuned! All the best.👍😀

[@ariannafrazier53]

@@richardlloydusa thank you so much

[@ariannafrazier53]

@@richardlloydusa do you have a video on how to change spark plugs?

[@richardlloydusa]

Sure do! Here you go kzbin.info/www/bejne/hp3TmGmhnLiZmKMsi=IE0_vhmA-ceBk86o

[@Tofumoode-jy6ro]

Hey, Richard. at 1:11, you said that you just took it out for a drive to heat up the engine. Do you drove around with the fluid flushed out or filled?

[@richardlloydusa]

Always drive with the fluid in and always have fluid in the transmission when the car is running. The needs to be at the right temperature to get it to the right level. Thank you for watching and commenting. I appreciate it greatly. All the best.👍😀

[@Danny-et3kq]

With the GDS you can reprogram Moduls etc.....

[@pingpong9656]

are you meant to leave engine running when checking fluid level?

[@richardlloydusa]

I check it with the engine off and the transmission at operating temperature. Thank you so much for commenting. I appreciate it greatly. All the best.👍😀

[@simonseth1000]

Great video! Is the Tucson the same procedure same year

[@ob1Katoby1]

Thanks for the very informative video. Looks like it is not easy to actually 'flush' these transmissions. I think the capacity spec for the AT is 7.5qts and you are adding 4-5 qts. so your leaving about 1/3 of the old ATF in the transmission each time. So it might take 3-4 times to get the transmission fluid really clear.

[@richardlloydusa]

You are right. It will take several drains and fills to get the fluid nice and clean. Really it's my fault for believing that it did not require service until at minimum 60,000 miles. I will now change it every 30,000 miles along with the coolant. I am sure I will do a few drains and fills every time too. Thanks for commenting and watching.

[@michaelpistilli5823]

It's not clear in the procedure if the if the engine is off or running it does not specify so I would assume the engine is running which would make a difference in the amount of fluid used since some fluid would drain back into the pan when the engine is shut off

[@richardlloydusa]

I do it with the engine off and have done so now over ten times on three different vehicles without issue. It's up to you either way but if it works for me I don't change it. Thanks.

[@pheehzero]

You would think, with some fluid being pumped when running...that Richard's way would leave it low of fluid!

[@khalidhumaid939]

Hi,Richard , what's the best time to change gear oil? when the engine is cold to avoid damage the sensor is that right. all the best

[@richardlloydusa]

Here is the whole procedure. kzbin.info/www/bejne/q3aUip2ahLqYkM0 The transmission needs to be at the right temperature. I show that in the video. Thanks.

[@danielp6878]

Great video thank you. Do these cars transmissions only need to be drain and filled or do they have to be flushed by a machine? Does the Hyundai Manual call for a flush or drain?

[@richardlloydusa]

You are most welcome. The procedure in the manual calls for a drain and fill. Here is the procedure: www.hsguide.net/repair_procedures-231.html Thanks.

[@danielp6878]

Richard Lloyd thanks again I appreciate it.

[@dm19609721]

thanks for letting me know. My son has a 2006 Sonata. I think I will install an inline filter. I find it hard to believe a steel mesh filter can stop those particles from going through. I have a Dodge Caravan and I installed a dorman pan and change the transmission fluid once a year + I have an inline filter and oil cooler. 200,000 miles and still shifts like brand new. 4 quarts xosts about the same as synthetic engine oil. A transmission is almost as expensive as replacing an engine for why people wait for 100,000 miles beyond me. I'd would do it once a year for the little work involved.

[@richardlloydusa]

Agreed. The inline filter can only help to keep it clean and changing the fluid on a fairly regular basis should keep the transmission working well. I will be changing it every 15,000 to 20,000 depending on what I find in the future. Thanks.

[@alialjubury5725]

please how much distance between each change 1 and 2 and 3

[@bpreachuk]

Richard - your videos are great! Nice job, clear explanation and examples. Thanks for the help.

[@richardlloydusa]

+bpreachuk You are most welcome. Thanks for watching and the kind comment.

[@laithanwer4680]

Thanks for the video. I would like to ask Is the process the same for santa fe 2010

[@richardlloydusa]

I believe so. I don't have access to the Santa fe 2010 but you can look at your owners manual for the fluid requirements and at the transmission to see if it's the same. Thanks.

[@amandacobb2426]

Hi Richard, I have complete appreciated your videos on your Sonata! I have a request. You're engine bay always looks clean. Is there a way you could do a video of how to clean the engine bay and what components on the Sonata that are sensitive to detailing with water? Thank you again! AC

[@richardlloydusa]

I would like to take credit for the engine bay being clean but it is primarily because I live in Texas (a very dry place). I am hesitant to make a video on washing the engine compartment because of the potential for damage that could possibly happen. For the most part the electrical parts should be sealed against water penetration but I am sure they are not all water proof. For example the fuse box is water resistant but it is not water proof as it does not have an O-ring seal. For the most part if you use soap, water, towel and a low pressure water stream (shower setting on a garden hose) to rinse it off you should be fine. Here is a forum I use as a resource. www.hyundai-forums.com/yf-2011-sonata-i45/153338-do-you-guys-wash-clean-your-engine.html It's been a great source of information for me and well worth the free membership. Thanks

[@jamalmakki3700]

Perfect job description ... Thank you very much

[@richardlloydusa]

You are most welcome. Thank you for watching, commenting and the kind words. I appreciate it greatly. All the best.👍😀

[@Danny-et3kq]

Hi ,Richard L ,I watched all your videos presentation it helps a lot,I am a GM mechanic for almost 20 years and I owned many Chevrolet Caprice , Lumina ,celebrity ,two Impalas and I AM TIRED OF TRANSMISSION problems in GM since they start to built front wheel drive every time you change transmission oil the transmission start to slip shudder etc ...so I recommend not to touch it and it last longer it is amazing , so I bought a 2012 Hyundai Sonata of course different concept and engineering than the GM cars ,so I went to Hyundai dealer bought the Genuine Hyundai ATF SP5 ,they recommend semi synthetic oil now for hyundai YF 6 speed transmission it is much more expensive than valvoline it cost 4 liters 41$ Canadian dollar ,I drove 1400 Kilometer transmission change faster ,feel slip and I am freaking out I wished I didn't touched it ,it doesnt have much mileage 94000K only Hyundai recommend to change it at 96000K wich in american 60000miles sorry for my metric values ,so what do you think I did wrong ,is your transmission changed behavior after flush ? should I change it second time may be it will be better after ?please tell me if yours changed behavior you feel it different in driving like 5th gear goes on 50 kilometer by the speedometer it is to soon don't you think? it feel slipping sometimes? I ask you that because I am used to GM cars with 4 gears and I never driven 6 speed before ... tell me your opinion is it normal I am feeling that in driving or it is really normal ? best regards . Danny

[@richardlloydusa]

I have never owned a GM so I can't comment on that. I used to be a Canadian so metric is not an issue for me. LOL. The transmission behaviour after the many transmission fluid changes has not changed at all. It was silky smooth before and after the four changes. I have left it alone since the last change but I will be swapping it out on the next oil change which is about 700 miles from now as the final drain and fill for the next 30,000 miles. As far as what you did wrong I really can't comment on that as I was not there when you did it. A few things to note are the temperature should be in the right range 50-60C or 122F-140F I used an infra-red temperature gun on the transmission housing drain bolt. The car needs to be level to drain the fluid to the right level. Remember this method only drains 4 litres of the 6+ litres in the transmission so some of the old stays behind. Be sure that you follow the Hyundai procedure 100% www.hsguide.net/repair_procedures-231.html. Looking at my drain plug from the first drain (lots of metal) to the last drain (very little metal) the original oil was heavily contaminated see my last video at 5:50:kzbin.info/www/bejne/jmGymKZ3qLSSmqs I would get your car level and check the level by pulling the level plug and seeing what happens. It should just dribble out. If it does not you need to put more in. If it spurts out heavily you have too much in there and you should let it drain until it dribbles out again. Also remember the human factor. You have had issues with other transmissions and maybe you are hyper sensitive to the operation of the transmission. I know I was a little paranoid about the operation of the transmission after the first drain and fill but after seeing it's performance over a period of time it seems to working just fine.

[@pckuching3374]

Danny i am driving hyundai elantra HD, i do believe hyundai gearbox is lifetime and we should not touch the gear oil, sadly most of the people do not agree with me, my gear box already over 100 000KM i still think the factory gear oil should not be touch, thanks for your information...good day.

[@pckuching3374]

slipping due to tougue converter happen once a while in my car, may be twice a year and it is OK!

[@richardlloydusa]

PC KUCHING 100,000 KM is only 62,137 miles which is were my car is. My owners manual says that under (extreme) conditions it should be changed at 60,000 miles. But when you read what they call extreme you will see that most driving conditions described are by Hyundai's definition are extreme. BTW my transmission never slips. My bet is that new fluid in your transmission might stop that behaviour. Your transmission should never slip. Thanks.

[@Kemolz1]

Is there a reason why the car isn't on while checking the fluid level. All the vehicles I've worked on require the engine to be on and run it through PRND FOR 3 at temp.

[@TheShawn3636]

how long did you wait before each flush

[@devangpatel3301]

Hi Richard, I have 2011 Hyundai sonata with 50,000 miles on it i was thinking to change transmission fluid. Dealer ask me for $250.00 that include flush. Should i flush it since this is first time i will be doing my transmission service or just drain it and fill it with the new ATF ? Please let me know. Thanks

[@richardlloydusa]

Hyundai says that the ATF should not need to be serviced until 100,000 miles and then they don't mention doing a flush just the service I do in the video. I have to leave it in your court whether you want to or not. I have changed the fluid for a total of five times and it cost me $16.99 each time for a total of $84.95. I started at 60,000 miles and as you can see it in the videos it needed it. I am at 67,000 miles now with out issue on the transmission since the service. I will be doing it once more on the next oil change to see what it looks like after 3000 more miles. But I am really not worried about it as it is running great. Thanks.

[@devangpatel3301]

Thank you for reply Richard. Where did you get Atf for $16.99, because that's really cheap. And what atf is that you are using ?

[@richardlloydusa]

Devang Patel I buy the ATF at Walmart for $16.99 but if you don't have access to a Walmart you can get them at Amazon: amzn.to/1EAOXBB They sell them in packs of 3 and that works out to $21.58 per US gallon. Thanks

[@devangpatel3301]

Thanks Richard

[@richardlloydusa]

Devang Patel Your welcome.

[@mikefennema5561]

Aren't you supposed to check the level with the car running?

[@joeestrada4272]

what would you recommend on how often you change the transmission now knowing 60k was way to long to change for first time. Im living in chicago so we go all that weather and bad roads lol

[@richardlloydusa]

I would say every 30,000 miles would be reasonable although I will probably do it every 15,000 to 20,000 miles. Thanks.

[@jorgedelgado2369]

Thanks, this video it is going to save me some money, I will do it myself in my Hyundai sonata 2006

[@richardlloydusa]

You're welcome. Thanks for watching. All the best.

[@saalaisaran]

Hi Richard, thanks for the video. how much ATF I need to buy? the owners manual states 7.1L but you used only 4L. Thanks in advance.

[@richardlloydusa]

Unfortunately you can not fully drain the transmission case using the drain plug. Approximately 4L drains out so you should not need more than 4L of fluid. Thanks.

[@jimmyjamautrey]

About half of the fluid remains in the torque converter that does not drain. Subsequent fluid changes will eventually cycle all the dirty fluid as it mixes with the clean fluid.

[@iM7mdz515]

Thanks ! Really helpful.

[@jimblane1183]

What's the socket size for the top fill plug? Just in case the 3/8 doesn't work.

[@richardlloydusa]

The bolt is a a 22mm. Thanks.

[@Johnny-km3jl]

Do you still have this car mine has 120k miles and I’m think about doing transmission oil change I don’t know you have the previous owner ever did it

[@ericktorres7514]

Richard is it the same procedure for a 2011 Hyundai Elanta?

[@richardlloydusa]

+Erick Torres Just checked the Elantra service manual and it looks the same. Here is the procedure www.hemanual.org/replacement-1543.html www.hemanual.org/fluid_components_and_components_location-1540.html

[@isaiasvazquez7932]

I have a Hyundai 2013 sonata that goes slow when it starts it has a little jump after the jump it runs good what do you think its the problem thx

[@richardlloydusa]

Your question is beyond the scope of this video. I suggest going here www.hyundai-forums.com and posing the question there or searching the forum. More than likely someone else has already posed the question and gotten an answer. Thanks.

[@anirudhranganatha3827]

whats the size of the Crush washer?

[@richardlloydusa]

I am not sure what the size is. I have reused the same washer that was on there originally several times and it worked fine without leaking. Thank you for watching, commenting and the kind words. I appreciate it greatly. All the best.👍😀

[@anirudhranganatha3827]

@@richardlloydusa I appreciate your effort in being so detailed. I have another weird question. I have a newer elantra and I'm sure the procedure is similar. But when I'm trying to open the fill plug, there is some other part (when you stand facing the car, open the hood, this silver part is right behind the fill plug). So this part is blocking the fill plug and I'm unable to open it. Its really odd. So my question is, can I fill the fluid from underneath the car using the fluid level check hole? I will use a pump. Is this possible?

[@angelisone]

I would guess the ATF is the same on 2011 Hyundai Tucson GLS that you purchased from Walmart. Do you know the brand name & weight of the ATF I should get? Again, vert nice video & tip which are better than Eric the car guy. Thank you for taking your time & sharing to us.

[@richardlloydusa]

+angelisone You are most welcome. The owners manual specs the same fluid panther37.com/tucson/LM/manuals/2011owner%27s_manual.pdf Automatic transaxle fluid 7.50 US qt. (7.1l) MICHANG ATF SP-IV, SK ATF SP-IV NOCA ATF SP-IV, HYUNDAI genuine ATF SP-IV or other brands meeting the above specification approved by Hyundai Motor Co. Thank you very much.

[@antandshell]

Richard, Thank you so much for your time and hard work showing us the results of two drain & fills and the results. I believe this is a first ever shown with a comparison on the sonata yf model. What great information. This definitely helps us choose what method we want to use when choosing between a drain and fill & a flush. Great work! 1 question...that original price your dealer quoted is close to what my dealer quoted 289. for a complete machine flush. The service advisors have very little knowledge in my experience and they could have given you a flush price...Yes Hyundai does not recommend it but the dealers are doing it. & after seeing your videos what i would personally do is pull my drain plug, hold the fluid in with a finger clean the magnetic bolt then bring it to the dealer for a true flush.

[@richardlloydusa]

You are welcome. The hard part was coming up with a way to show the difference between the color on all the drains. I think you can see it well in the split screen as it pours out and somewhat with the sample tubes. I will do it the same way again next week as well. I am not sure what they were quoting me as the lady did not go into detail. She just told me it was $300.00 because of the "special fluid" the transmission takes. Going to have to talk to Hyundai Tech and see what they tell me. I am digging for an exploded view of the transmission and maybe something that shows me where the filter in the transmission is and how much is involved in replacing that too. My transmission is shifting silky smooth at this moment and it is under warranty to 100,000 miles so I will stick to the drain and flush method until at least then. I will follow the, "if it's not broken don't fix it" philosophy for now. If you're going to get it flushed ask if you are getting a new filter and if you are ask if you can have the old one (I would love a picture of it). I am thinking that if they are not replacing the filter it would really not be worth it to me. Thanks again. Keep me posted. I will post the next one in a week or so.

[@richardlloydusa]

Digme Ahole Thanks for the info. Looks like there is no need to get at the internal filter screen. I think I will continue to dump it until I am happy with the color. Stay tuned for flush #3. LOL

[@antandshell]

Richard Lloyd I am looking forward to it my friend. I wish i had the ability and patience to do what you do with videos. When i am working on my YF there is no way i could hold a camera and teach everyone the way you do. PS: sent you a PM on the forum as the pictures i have of the exploited trany view are in the hyundai service manual but i sent you a link for your car 20011 turbo YF for the complete manual that includes the view of the trany you were looking for. See you PM on the forum. If you have any questions or need help which i doubt you do just pm me back.

[@richardlloydusa]

Digme Ahole Thank you kindly Sir. I will be looking at that PM.

[@michaelpistilli5823]

Is the engine running when checking trans fluid level

[@richardlloydusa]

I do it with the engine off and have done so now over ten times on three different vehicles without issue. It's up to you either way but if it works for me I don't change it. Thanks.

[@mooch514]

I basically put in the same amount that came out

[@richardlloydusa]

The assumption you are making is that the right amount of fluid was in it in the first place (not always the case). But hey if it's working for you great! Thank you so much for watching, commenting and the valuable feedback. I appreciate it greatly. Subscribe, Click The Bell and stay tuned! All the best.👍😀

[@dm19609721]

Thanks for the information very informtive

[@richardlloydusa]

You are most welcome. Thanks for watching.

[@kalebm9302]

95,000 miles on the original fluid guess I should think about getting it changed.

[@dm19609721]

where is the transmission filter located?

[@richardlloydusa]

It's a steel mess filter and it's internal to the transmission. You would have to disassemble the transmission to replace it. Thanks.

[@TheNikeair1992]

Hello guys, I have a 2011 sonata and cracked the valve body cover/or/ the transmission pan. I was wondering if anyone knows where i can find a video on how to replace it? thanks!

[@richardlloydusa]

I no longer have the car but here is the service manual www.hsguide.net/automatic_transaxle_components_and_components_location-232.html It looks like you just need to remove the bolts holding it down to take it off. Thanks.

[@Danny-et3kq]

Hi ,Richard L ,as you said is wright I am sensitive to change in transmission behavior I developed that by working and testing cars over the years ,and about changing the oil on my 2012 Sonata I did it by the book same way you did it and for the transmission oil temperature I connected the scan for it and it show you exactly by the temperature sensor how much is it ,you should get a scan they are not expensive I paid that 270$ it has a lots of features ebay has it ,it is affordable and it has power train and transmission live data ,you will like it ,So thanks a lot for your effort answering me,today you are not going to beleive it ,I went to the dealer ship Hyundai and the guy who sold me the trans oil he sold me the wrong trans oil,because I went there to buy new gallon of the same oil I said I will give it another try ,he gave me different type of oil Hyundai genuine SP4 it is 18$ for one liter ,I freaked out because I did put in the transmission the wrong type of oil ,they start apology to me with no end and they gave it to me for free after they spoke to the sale manager I got 10 liters I drained the wrong oil poured 3 liters from the new one I removed top transmission hose from cooler ,start the engine for like 30 second you can see the new oil coming put engine off I flushed the old wrong type of oil it took almost 6 and a half liters ,take the negative battery cable for 3 and a half minutes and put it back again because the module is adapted to the old oil behavior.. bottom line go tested the car Richard totally back to normal from first test ,amazingly worked again, normal smooth changing ,slower changing and stable as new,and no slipping ,the SP4 oil has less viscosity than the semi synthetic ,the semi synthetic is used in Hyundai vehicles 2010 and less ,I did the test hopefully everyone will learn to put the wright type of oil as specified by the maker . Thanks Richard and happy to share and exchange knowledge with you . Danny.

[@richardlloydusa]

I was going to mention the adaptive database the computer builds to control the transmission but it's adaptive so it should not need to be reset unless of course an anomaly was introduced. In your case it was the wrong fluid that was the anomaly . Wow, I would be so pissed if they sold me the wrong stuff and told me it was the right fluid. Glad you got it sorted out and that Hyundai took good care of you once they realized they screwed up. Happy motoring. By the way they did the right thing by wiping the computer data.

[@richardlloydusa]

One question about your scan tool. Can you use it to change parameters in the computer or just clear the codes. I am looking for a computer that can access the steering module to change the different modes they have for it. Thanks.

[@danyeldan2139]

I have 2011 Hyundai sonata limited 2.4 why no one is showing how to change trans filter they only changing trans fluid changing fluid only doesn't make transmission healthy the filter also need to be replaced

[@richardlloydusa]

The filter is an internal steel mesh filter and can be changed but it requires disassembly of the transmission for that reason they don't suggest replacing it. Thank you for watching and commenting. I appreciate it greatly. All the best.👍😀

[@GenericShirtNinja]

I bought a 2006 Hyundai accent with 23-24,000 KM. It is over 9 years old and did not come with a service history. Should I have the transmission fluid (and or brake fluid changed) - or should I still wait until the 100k mark? Or 50k at least? (Might take me 2-3 years to reach 50k from my current 27k though). I did my oil already since that was easy, but I don't have the tools or experience for transmission/brake fluid change...

[@richardlloydusa]

+GenericShirtNinja You should be fine with the fluids. I would follow the recommended service intervals with all the fluids but if you are worried about it you could always just change them so you know you have nice clean fluids but that's an OCD thing more than a required thing. I like knowing all my fluids are as clean as can be (within reason). Fluids are pretty easy to change and quite cheap to do. Bottom line for me and my suggestion to you do not let the fluids go any longer than the (extreme service limit). I am not sure what that is for your accent but on my Sonata they had one spec for "normal" use and "extreme" use limits. In the case of my Sonata they recommended never to change the transmission fluid under "normal" use but to change it at 60,000 miles under extreme use. As you can see from my first change it was very dirty. Thanks.

[@omaralhees1511]

Thnx

[@bobhaddock957]

at $ 10.00 a quart verses $140.00 for machine flush.....think I will go with the flush

[@onenikkione]

never have a transmission flushed

[@lmiller4121]

Acura mdx