Sony A7 II vs Canon EOS RP - The best full frame mirrorless camera under $1000

[@deathrat]

The reason we appreciate you is because not all of us can drop $1600 on a new camera. Thanks for giving us the “lower-end models” comparison

[@CarlBergsdorf]

Real talk

[@techoasys]

Exactly! 💯

[@ShinDongJi]

Agreed. As someone who is from Asia, 2000 USD or even 1600 is not something that we can spend easily. He is so far, the only guy who has this approach when it comes to cameras.

[@BastiaanvandeWerk]

"Lower End" is rather relative. These are two awesome camera - they both take great pictures and come loaded with features that didn't exist only a few years ago.

[@pamangojie6567]

*smiling in tears while holding my Canon M100

[@techoasys]

The only guy I've found on freaking KZbin that seems to recognize not everyone has $2000 to drop on a new camera. I have been waiting for this video comparison for so long, and while I have used both cameras, I still struggled to figure out which one I wanted; however, my results were similar. Canon EOS RP has quicker autofocus, and less noise albeit less dynamic range. It also feels much more comfy in the hand.

[@natbrownizzle3815]

Watched a video of a youtuber - and I am not hating on him, which is why I don't write up his name - and he was like "The most important thing is to go out and make fotos, the camera is not important at all.". Meanwhile he was taking pictures with a € 3000,- Camera ^^. I mean I understand that they want to encourage people not to stop, just because they do not have top gear, but come on, at one point, you want your photos to look better and it is only so far, some cameras can go. I took some shots, which were looking good on the small screen of the camera, but when I looked at them on my PC, I nearly lost my mind because of all the noise on them, they were ruined. So yeah, but still, the youtubers are all helping a lot, very motivating people and very ambitious to help others, I like that a lot.

[@Leptospirosi]

@@natbrownizzle3815 Well, I don't know the youtuber you are talking of, so it's not a direct response on him and his Gear. I guess the cost of his equipment is not the point as far as he shoot it and it brings out good results. I could bring you the example of @Noealz, which has recently acquired a medium format fuji, but keeps telling "whatever you have is good enough", and I belive he's honest in telling that. Sometime your equipment fails and you have to replace it: we must not judge what someone gets as far as it does not become a "fetish purchase"; everyone is free to spend the money they earn as they see fit. He's been using an X100 original for a long time, then he gifted it to one of his students in Seul, then used an X-pro original with vintage Lenses. For paid jobs (usually timelapses) he's been using a 5D MkIII, buit it was so battered and damaged that he had to replace it. Same with is infrared converted camera, which failed. The guy also used a Iphone 7 for almost 6 months for his own streaming and night picture to prove the point that "you can use what you have". Many people are into "vintage lenses and go to great extent to get some particular glass, but' that's not because they think they'll get better images, but rather for collecting purposes: I got my RP 2 days ago, because I wanted a FF sensor for my vintage lenses, but I could not focus them reliably with my "inherited" 5D MkII. Is it the best camera? No. Does it matters? it does not, because it takes good pictures and solved me a problem I had. My best image was taken win an e-PL6 and a kit lens: I wish I'll get something as good with this FF!

[@natbrownizzle3815]

@@Leptospirosi The thing is, and I thing this would need it's own blog, but anyhow I'll try this anyway. The thing is, I just got started and like anyone who just starts with anything, there is one thing that I lack and that thing is patience. I want to take great pictures, but I seem to not want to put the long time and hard work into it, learning about theory, about anything there is, which takes time and of course patience. I get what you are saiyng and I try to look at the way I said things to. There are great photographers who can take amazing pictures with let's be hones, shit and good for nothing cameras, but I am not a great photographer so I think I make the mistake every rookie makes, which is to believe that it is the Jordans who will make me play better ball and not myself learning the fundamentals first. Thanks for the comment, I will go on an shoot pictures with my MFT Sensor and when I will have a FF sensor I will work with that too and if any starter reads this, brother, sister, take your time, be patient and enjoy the beauty of it, becaus it is just worth it.

[@thegrayyernaut]

You should check out Mattias Burling. That guy loves finding cheap deals on eBay :v

[@natbrownizzle3815]

@@thegrayyernaut I know, I just don't trust Ebay haha

[@RedBombay]

I literally googled A7 II vs EOS RP yesterday and now you have a video out! Perfect Thank you so much!

[@ivanjason2390]

Haveagoodday.Betterexperience

[@dinagalall]

Now that is a comparison within my budget! FINALLY!

[@Historycluster]

Why would someone will buy 7 years old camer

[@Danishraza1994]

@@Historycluster tht what i Said to my wife 😂

[@Husky4848]

@@Historycluster if it still performs well age doesn't matter

[@legacyfitness7469]

Happy RP’s owner here. Best value of the market for my non professional needs

[@DonovinJones]

Ralph back at is again dropping BANGERS videos about stuff that we actually WANT to know about

[@Waalieee]

I still use the Sony A7ii, autofocus isn’t the best but the camera still packs a punch in terms of Photo and Video Outputs

[@andyvalentine9791]

Just sold my A7II, and I'm still crying. That little guy got my business started, and handled everything I threw at it just fine. If you are happy with 5fps continuous, and 1080p video, the A7II is still a beast.

[@Waalieee]

truu

[@gicechicken7062]

@@andyvalentine9791 do u have a channel

[@hakaigo1304]

Just sold my A7ii to upgrade on Canon RP, and it worth it!

[@ShinDongJi]

Just wanted to say you are one of the few (Or in my case, the only one) who speaks more sense when it comes to purchasing. As the others had pointed out here, not everyone can justify the pricing of the newer cameras out there, more so with the current situation that the world is into (COVID). All the best to you Sir.

[@adanestrada3249]

I just picked up the canon eos rp but I also have been looking into Sony as well. Your videos are always bomb! Keep it up! 🤙🏾🤙🏾🤙🏾

[@desertmav8632]

I have had my Sony A7rii for quite awhile and have yet to justify upgrading it-just kept investing in great glass. It’s a BEAST and shoots gorgeous video!

[@hokyung888]

My copy of a7II produced heavy moire pattern/distortion on the video. I sent my copy to the official Sony repair centre in Australia in 2015 and the response I got back was that I should have purchased a camcorder model such as FDR-AX700 or PWX-X70 if I wanted to focus on videography. The official Sony repair centre offered me a 40% discount voucher for my next purchase which meant that they acknowledged the issue but couldn't really do anything about the specific product. I am using the RP now and I am extremely satisfied with the quality of the video that comes out of it in terms of the distortion, the colour, and the CODEC and format it uses.

[@benjaminthorpe7990]

Love my Sony A7 II! It gets slack now because of how good modern eye AF is, but it is a fantastic entrance to a full frame Sony system along with the glass options

[@OfficialFatLip]

The lcd is hottible, total trash, no flip side

[@JennAlessa]

Whenever I need a comparison video and I come to YT to search for results, I end picking your videos first. Thanks a lot for such easy and short honest reviews!

[@nxadventures9510]

You forgot to mention how each works with vintage/MF lens. Many people use these for this reason.

[@parikshitmadhukar1216]

I use Sony A7ii, picked up for around 700$. Amazing dynamic range, i really enjoy it with samyang 24mm f2.8.

[@neerajsharma314]

How long it can record 60 FPS 1080p before battery getting down?

[@parikshitmadhukar1216]

@@neerajsharma314 I use only for stills, haven't tested for video.

[@eniscc]

@Derpimuss The Sony ecosystem is enough to put the RP away

[@1989bg2008]

@@neerajsharma314 my test was about an hour to an hour and a half

[@MC-yk4wl]

@Derpimuss as an A7II user wanted to switch to RP for its AF and better low light performance, I can say this... A7II is an amazing camera if you are not taking photos of a moving objects (eg. children) in kind of low light (typically indoor) situation. But even in a good light and with a decent zeiss lens this AF sucks and you really cannot rely on it... when it hits its great but mostlybit doesn't, and i learned it the hard way :( So, stills on travel, landscape and any situation where AF is not an must (eg. you have the time and can manually adjust if needed) take A7II and it works as charm with sigma MC11, but if you want to rely on AF only RP (from the two) Oh, and one more thing... if you don't need FF low light performance A6400 as an overall package with world leadingAF (in this price range) is the best of the best (haha to ad more confusion). Cheers

[@lephotographinc]

EXCELLENT TO THE POINT.. NO B.S comparison review.. keep it going . You are a breath of fresh air on KZbin. Thanks a million!

[@hamsphotovlogs]

The a7ii is way more cheaper 2nd hand now, got mine for $600. and you forgot to mentioned that the a7ii has IBIS. while the RP does not have. great video btw.

[@felipecanas4716]

what’s IBIS?

[@arjay_2002]

@@felipecanas4716 in-body image stabilization

[@MC-yk4wl]

As an A7II user wanted to switch to RP for its AF and better low light performance, I can say this... A7II is an amazing camera if you are not taking photos of a moving subjects (eg. children) in kind of low light (typically indoor) situation. But even in a good light and with a decent zeiss lens this AF sucks / hunt and you really cannot rely on it... when it hits its great but mostlybit doesn't, and i learned it the hard way :( Important INFO is missing here, A7II uses PDAF only up to f9, after this it uses CDAF So, stills on travel, landscape and any situation where AF is not an must (eg. you have the time and can manually adjust if needed) take A7II and it works as charm with sigma MC11, but if you want to rely on AF only RP (from the two) Oh, and one more thing... if you don't need FF low light performance A6400 as an overall package with world leadingAF (in this price range) is the best of the best (haha to ad more confusion). Cheers

[@aperturefilm]

You mean the AF for video, you don't need continuous auto focus when shooting photos lol

[@marcodecastroribeiro]

Did you change? if yes after experiencing both what is your feedback? thanks!

[@FotosyMas.]

The target audience for these cameras may also shoot primarily jpegs, and that’s a huge win for Canon there. The RP jpeg engine produce beautiful colors in almost every situation while the A7 II struggles with white balance issues, terrible skin tones and unnatural colors.

[@tahmidtawqir580]

Who uses a camera for taking Jpegs. Canon's raw sucks. Its dynamic range is shit.

[@tomd4748]

@@tahmidtawqir580 most people who own it

[@peterwilson9699]

Get a mobile phone if you want to shoot in jpeg.

[@bricetrophardy]

Just bought the A7III, so your video makes me realize I was not wrong. 🤗 the fact that you’re talking about the A7II made my day.

[@Jayysam95]

Owned both of these cameras, the Sony A7 II had the edge in dynamic range, low light ISO, but the rp is way easier to use. Lenses are also much cheaper on canon.

[@ahmonon4352]

In low light situation the IBIS of A7ii will help a lot, with unstabilized 85mm lens I can get sharp picture handheld at 1/20. Also the A7ii is much better weather sealed which RP totally lacks. These facts might be deciding factors for some people but it's a shame that you totally ignored it 😂

[@HyunRalphJeong]

They're both technically weather sealed but to very low level. Unless you shoot in the waterfall you'll be fine with either camera. With or without the IBIS, I'd never shoot anything at 1/20 but that's what stabilized lenses are for lol

[@kingsamvisuals]

Hyun Ralph Jeong especially with moving subjects. Ibis doesn’t help that

[@CallMeRabbitzUSVI]

@@HyunRalphJeong But aren't stabilized lenses more expensive which for a budget comparison should be taking into configuration. Having one technically weather sealed and having on actually weather sealed is a bit different. Don't get me wrong I loved the video and am very glad you made it but IBIS is very helpful for alot of shooting styles and should definitely be considered. Also the Sony can shoot in S-LOG while the Canon cannot

[@trevourlance27]

Old video and the comment is late, but one thing that I'd like to add is that Sony's A7 II was the first mirrorless fullframe to have 5-axis in-body stabilization, which for low light portraits, street and landscape gives you a great advantage of not having to use a tripod, even on lenses that don't have OSS / IS. This was my deciding factor when I was choosing for my full frame (RP vs 7II) and before picking up the Sony, I was a Canon user with two cameras (EOS 550D/Rebel T2i and EOS M100) for 11 years (and I still have those cameras today together with the Sony)

[@tacnurse5649]

Amazing video as always! Bought me an RP with the RF 24-105 and EF adaptor for like $1600, best purchase i've made when it comes to Camera stuff.

[@VincetheBarber1790]

I just had this decision to make today. I ended up choosing the 7 ii simply because the lenses were sooooooooo much more affordable. The RP body is a great price, but you'll find out fast you're about to shell out for glass. Might not matter to you. But for me it pushed me outside my budget.

[@vicimed8799]

you can get an adapter. But the sony is still an amazing camera

[@thegrayyernaut]

I think it's the other way around. Older EF lenses work on Canon EOS RP through an adapter. And Canon has, like, an ocean of cheap-but-pretty-good lenses like 35 f2, 40 f2.8, 50 f1.8, 85 f1.8, etc.

[@michaelchung5228]

It's great that you compared 2 cameras that's the same price. I get ignored when people compare the RP to a Sony A7 AIII that's twice the price.

[@ivanjason2390]

Verychill

[@rhetoricalrobot8359]

In the lowlight AF, RP had one hell of an autofocus assist light.

[@MC-yk4wl]

A7II dose it too but the idea is to not blind the person you are trying to photograph with this light, and when this comes to play RP is much better in AF under low light conditions... sony A7II sucks... really...

[@energieinfo21]

I found out just a few weeks ago (8/2023) that the 4k on the RP is a good option if (1) you can go wide enough and (2) you do not need fast reliable AF, but only sloooow reliable focus on slooooow moving subjects. Using the EF 4 16-35 L IS I like to have Ultrawide for FullHD which can be used in 4k projects but I also have a ~28...60mm equiv lens for 4k with rich detail. So I postponed to replace the RP and work with it alongside the R7 (with EF 100-400 ii, a gorgeous lens). EDIT: By the way: Good video, just three years later!

[@leonardmills5003]

Well what can I say? I use a Sony A7II to photo live play dress-rehearsals. Low light (I must not use a flash for obvious reasons) and the actors on stage are moving about. Sometimes the focus is wildly blind but I touch the shutter release and the focus is quickly back in line. I've never missed a shot. The pictures are pin sharp, clear of noise and do not need editing. Yes, there are better (£1000+) cameras out there but the Sony A7II seems to perform extremely well at what it performs worst at.

[@aperturefilm]

I own a A7ii and now use it for photography and I have to say it's a beast and easy to use, just get to know your camera. That's all.

[@joeygwood]

I'd love to see a comparison of the RP and the 90D!

[@HyunRalphJeong]

Joey Greenwood they are very different cameras but what would you like to know?

[@dchillman]

I bought a Canon RP six months ago and quickly regretted it due to frequent autofocusing problems with RF and EF lenses. Users are also reporting AF issues with Sigma lenses. My first Canon camera was the A1 back in the early 80s. 40 years later (and many more Canon cameras), I'm now considering a switch to Sony or Nikon.

[@EverydayEnglishTipswithAmit]

So disheartening to hear this

[@GaryJahman]

Had reviewed both of them as well. And both are actually quite enjoyable to use, but the Sony A7II will feel outdated if directly compared to the Canon EOS RP. Other then that I agree with all your points in the video, great stuff man. There was a rumor that there will be a new Sony fullframe camera with similar price as the RP. But it is just a rumor :)

[@HyunRalphJeong]

Yeah, I've been hearing that too. Would be very interesting.

[@techoasys]

Yes, but if the rumors are true, unfortunately, it will have the same body as their APS-C line, and I much prefer the feel and aesthetics of their full frame lineup. Wish they would take this route instead.

[@lino100x100]

I own a7iii+ several 900+ lenses and i'm really happy of the results... But if i was short on budget I would certainly go for canon rp + adpter for ef lenses, and buy 35F2 / 50F1.8Stm / 85f1.8 used. Another great camera to consider i the 5DmarkIII, with maximum 100.000 actuation.

[@HighPingDrifter1]

Very useful video, thanks. I've been toying with trading in all my older e-mount gear for a cheap, older full frame camera and a couple of portrait primes, it's good to see the pros and cons of each camera laid out so clearly.

[@hovhanneshovakimyan]

Nice comparison review. You really nailed the topic which a lot of people are searching for.

[@jmoss99]

Well, I use a Canon 2000D ASP-C now for photos. I love it. I use mostly Vintage lenses. I want to be able to use the Canon FL 55mm f1.2 lens that I own. I want to use a camera for video as I will be shooting product demo videos to be used on KZbin. I had not heard of the Canon EOS RP until now. I was leaning toward the A7ii. However, this video of yours has made me think. I do not and in fact hate any AUTO anything. I shot my band from 2000 to 2007 using a Sony PD150 DVCam and never used AUTO anything. I set up the shot first, then go with the settings. No "In/Out, In/Out, In/Out" BS for me. It is more of a distraction and irritates the viewer. So, I don't care about AUTO anything. Full Frame is attractive to me. 26.5mpix is not a step back from the Canon 2000D. The cost of either of these lenses is affordable. Am I missing anything?

[@docmojave6273]

Please consider that a Sony from 2014 still can compete. The Canon is about 5 years younger...

[@randomnetizen7980]

same price...

[@BCPCamerasTech]

Make sure that you’re aware that the RP only has an EFCS instead of a fully mechanical shutter. To me it’s a pretty big factor. I talk about it in my eos rp videos. Thanks for the perspective!

[@SolaSly]

Canon Cripple 🔨

[@lilyawood]

I scored my canon eos rt5 for 300 bucks at a pawn shop and it came with the standard 50mm lens and a 200mm lens. Risky but it was basically brand new and 10k pictures later I'm still happy with it. Now I'm interested in sony cameras and I'm excited to find something good for a decent price, but I don't know if I'll be so lucky this time.

[@almal4940]

This is THE video I’ve been looking for. I’m not a pro by any regard but want to up my quality of photos, yet I can’t afford to drop 2-3 grand on a camera! Think I’m going with the Canon and am very happy with it.

[@TellurdogIsayhi]

End up buying one? What do ya think?

[@alastairleung1883]

This is a gem of a video. Thanks for making this for people with real world non professional budgets.

[@dallatorretdu]

I worked with an A7II for 2 years back in the days, the A7II autofocus is good only in the middle of the frame and there is a setting to enable the viewing of such area. Also its video was very bad and moiry, the a6300 kicked it out of the water at any mode. What I recommend to a newcomer is to get the A7 Mk1 to save up or the Mk3 for a good performing camera, also does the RP really have such bad battery life? the A7II required me to carry 5 extra batteries in winter, with the new A7III 1 battery = 6 intense hours

[@Seitenwerk]

I use the RP for events and wedding and it sometimes worked with a single battery for the whole day. But it heavily depends on how you use it. Switching to eco mode will turn if the displays only Andre seconds after you stopped using it (and turn everything back on the moment you press a button) this will save a huge amount plus only using the viewfinder will also increase battery life. I would say around 800 pictures are possible on a single charge. I am currently using 3 batteries just to make sure but in general only need 2 when it comes down to a full wedding shoot

[@fadi_lee]

so its not for video??

[@dallatorretdu]

@@fadi_lee it does make videos. Is it the best choice? no

[@fadi_lee]

@@dallatorretdu im a videographer, I need new Sony camera or Sony a7ii or a6400 but a6400 aps-c

[@dallatorretdu]

@@fadi_lee 6400 makes much better videos. Better White balance, Better colors, better low light (that 6K4K Is astonishing) get the sigma 16 1.4 and learn a Gimbal and it's beastly

[@RudyVisuals]

Great comparison. Of the two I would definitely go for the RP. The A7 II is awesome for the price but from my experience it has TERRIBLE battery life :(

[@SolaSly]

The RP has equally disastrous battery life

[@techoasys]

@@SolaSly Yes it does. I too have owned both; however, I prefer the Canon EOS RP for it's better ISO performance, faster autofocus, especially after firmware updates, better menu, and ergonomics.

[@b.w.6615]

AF is terrible on the A7ii. haha

[@joyfulportraits]

Which one do you recommend for taking portraits of fast-moving toddlers? At first I thought RP due to the auto-focus being better, but the A7ii performed better when you did the frame rate test.

[@jcg4350]

Sony A7ii can go up to ISO 51200 but JPG only. A7ii has IBIS, while RP has no IBIS. Nevertheless, good review.

dude I looked but couldn't find it, how do we activate it

[@jcg4350]

@ ISO 51200 is quite difficult to get, you have to go in multishot mode simulating HDR. In single shot, top is ISO 25600.

[@Swiss.Alpinism]

I was on the market for a sub 2000$ camera when i recognized, that buying a good camera as a beginner it might be an overkill. And when you are good enough for the camera, you want a newer body. Because I like the Sony lens options, i bought the a7 MK1 with the 28-70 kit lens for 350$. You would be surprised what this camera is capable of. All lenses that I might buy in the future are still usable with an better Sony body.

[@eduardsykora8622]

I borrowed both for the afternoon and chose the sony (the higher dynamic range is very noticeable in the photos)

[@tikevangogh7227]

Love your reviews. Objective and addressing all important aspects.

[@SMGJohn]

Sony A7II also has IBIS which the R and RP lacks, even if its a first generation IBIS for A7 lineup, Sony has been doing IBIS in their cameras ever since they bought Minolta which pioneered IBIS systems for DSLR's.

[@suchan1698]

It was actually Olympus.

[@SMGJohn]

@@suchan1698 No, its Minolta in 2004, look up the Minolta Maxxum 7D I think it was called.

[@lorenschwiderski]

Canon is made in Japan. It was not all that long ago they ran the RP with lens for $999. Now that was an impressive price point. The lens is made in Taiwan. Canon menu system seems pretty good. Touch menus and touch for focus point - nice. I have too many cameras, but not a single FF one, so this is tempting. FF lenses diameter and weight still seem a little off-putting, but what the heck, overall weight is not terrible at all.

[@GermanViking]

Great idea comparing this models, great video! It would be cool if you compare the rumored upcoming full frame "budget" model of the Sony again with the RP!

[@dudeman89]

Would you be interested in doing a video exploring the cinestyle picture profile on the eos rp? love your content too btw :)

[@HyunRalphJeong]

dudeman89 Thanks, unfortunately I’m not that sophisticated enough with video features but will try to add more in the future videos

[@ro3843]

It's not the cost of the body....as much as the cost of RF lenses after canon has banned third party. I know there's the EF adapter, I own one and it's great. But there's now several neat sigma and Tamron lenses that will only be available for Sony and Nikon. So once everything is factored in, I feel like Sony might be a better long term investment. And that's coming from a canon guy who's never owned a Sony.

[@ΜανωληςΣτρατακης]

So, a 2019 camera is about as good as a 2014 camera? Good thing I have mine since 2015 then 😄 (I bought it new for 1200€ back then...)

[@pahwraith]

Well its a 6d II. So its not a 2019 lens.

[@ayayoutuber]

everyone know canon was playing catch up for RP and R ... now R5 and R6 basically even the game. This is a price range comparison where money is assumed limiting factor...unless sony has a brand new camera at this price range you can suggest?

[@ΜανωληςΣτρατακης]

​@@ayayoutuber I wont argue about how good R5 or R6 are. All I am saying is that in 2019, Canon presented a camera that was at the same level with a Sony 2014 camera! I am not trying to suggest anything to anyone, at this price range there are big compromises and everyone has to pick what they can "live" without. Personally, as an amateur who uses mainly MF and vintage lenses for landscape/nature/street photography, I am very happy with my choice so far!

[@eelay86]

@@ΜανωληςΣτρατακης If dynamic range is your only deciding factor, then your statement might be true. All things considered, it isn't.

[@ΜανωληςΣτρατακης]

@@eelay86 For my kind of photography, it is. Better high ISO performance or little bit better AF is irrelavent to me. And on the plus side, I have my camera since 2015...

[@lgyqchen5074]

I use Sony A7 II and mostly adapted with old manual lenses. It can be setup magnificent for focusing. Can the the Canon Eos RP do the similar way? Thanks!

[@its_heh_suess]

Thank you for validating my purchase of the Sony a7II 🤣

[@VincetheBarber1790]

Same lol. Just ordered it today

[@dakunclear]

I’ve had mine for a few months now. And the photos I have pumped out on this camera are nothing shy of amazing.

[@neerajsharma314]

How long it can record 60 FPS 1080p before battery getting down?

[@TravelWithLinAndBilly]

You have made the RP look very good in this video, from my experience I found the camera video quality to be very disappointing and unusable for professional work. It’s ok for photos but like you said it struggles with dynamic range. It’s a love/hate camera.

[@999torres]

I can’t switch to Sony been Canon all my life can’t argue that Canon color science is way better for Photos Canon is superior for Video definitely Sony

[@MiKeTuScAnI]

I went with RP the adapter and will use it with my EF LENSES. EF is cheaper!!!

[@jeni719]

I have a bunch of EF lenses, but I am reluctant to use the adapter. Glad to here you are happy with the adapter!

[@davidtong7249]

Since I have a few L lenses with my old 5DMKii, I use the adapter as well for my RP. Do you find that the focusing became slower using the EF lenses on adaptor?

[@MiKeTuScAnI]

No, actually EF works better and are sharper.

[@jml7916]

It’s all about the lenses. Sony has full 3rd party support and a viable used market. Tamron has really nailed the value segment and others are available too. There are other benefits of the Sony like much better build and body controls and IBIS, but the Canon has touchscreen and better AF. It was a tough decision but a gently used A7ii came up for sale for a great price and the available lens options won me over.

[@izackpaz]

might go this direction as well thank u 🙏🏽

[@MC-yk4wl]

Are you happy with your decision... how do you find AF, especially in a low light (indoor) scenarios?

[@jml7916]

@@MC-yk4wl I am. The camera does incredible in low light indoors with a few quirks. Works best in AF-S (single) but will work well in AF-C (continuous) if you disable the view simulation. The inexpensive Sony 50mm is a but slow to focus but almost every other lens has been fantastic and fast. But, if I could afford it, I would for the A7Rii. It is basically the next gen and a better sensor. Plus much better AF. Rp has better video and better eye af than the A7ii but the A7Rii matches the RP and has a much,much better sensor.

[@MC-yk4wl]

@@jml7916 my experience is that when i shoot still objects, people etc. AF is ok but when i try to shoot eg. playing children AF accuracy is 50% maybe less :( Additionally i find AFS to hunt a lot. The best results i am able to achieve are when i use AFC , Flex spot tracking, but its not perfect and i really can't rely on it (i use zeiss 35 2.8) therefore im thinking of switching to RP (A7RII is out of my reach)

[@jml7916]

@@MC-yk4wl try disabling live view effect (or something like that) when using AF-C. I found that the camera would do an initial focus with Phase detect then stop the lens down and track in contrast detect to give the live view effect. It would hunt like mad. It really made flash photography a pain until I figured out what the camera was doing. By turning off live view effect it kept the lens wide open like a dslr and worked much better. I also discovered that eye AF only works in AF-S on the A7ii. The A7Rii (that’s 2 not 3) is only a few hundred more expensive than the RP and you get 42 Mp, much improved AF, eye detect in AF-C and twice as many PD points, and get to keep that sweet lens. The RP is also a noticeable step down in IQ where the R2 is a major step up. I can look up exactly what I disabled if you want.

[@dougjochims7491]

Thank you for the video and information. I have the Sony A7 ii and really like the image quality in good light. I definitely like the menu system in my Canons much better though.

[@srlkngl]

Yes super helpful and immensely well put together video. Thank you!!

[@khoavan9984]

The A7II is only suitable for low-motion photography, I think, many people ignore it because of this limitation, especially when they find the focusing ability of the new generation cameras so great

[@SMGJohn]

Does not make sense since DSLR's from yesteryear were used for sports photography, and what about times before digital? Sports photographers still got good shots even if the hit ratio was less.

[@hakaigo1304]

Just sold my A7ii to upgrade on Canon RP, and it worth it!

[@romellobrown3141]

I would only get the eos because it’s newer. Just got an a7ii for 900 with kit lenz. For me that’s what it comes down to honestly. If I had the money tho, I would just get the a7iii

[@Francisfphoto_]

Broooo! Review the Samyang RF 85mm f1.4 AF!

[@HyunRalphJeong]

I will if I can get my hands on one but I couldn't find one anywhere haha

[@Francisfphoto_]

Hyun Ralph Jeong bro! Amazon and B&H hahahah

[@einzeller85]

"slightly older"... dude you're comparing cameras that are 5 years apart. it's actually quite a hilarious showcase of how far canon is behind. it's amazing how this old camera can even hold a candle to the much newer canon model.

[@baldyoung8066]

Nah, the sony is still way more expensive than the canon R even tho it's older lol, and it doesn't get any way closer to the new canon models.

[@KentSpain85]

Great video! Thank you :) And thank you for being down-to-earth rather than the "purists" out there who think "Oh yeah, spend 5k on a device you won't regret it." For a lot of us, Photography is a secondary or tertiary hobby. I love it, a lot, but I have other things to buy in my life and pay for! So I got the RP. It's a superb little guy and it's light and easy to carry. If in a year or two I feel very limited by its usability, then, I'll upgrade. Otherwise, I hope this guy will last me a long, long time! :D My 80D gave me 4 years of great service on trips and vacations but in the end it was too heavy and bulky for day to day carrying in my backpack.

[@jeni719]

Totally agree with your comments, what most KZbinrs forget is that most camera sales are in the $500-1500 price range. For most people, spending more money has very little incremental picture quality improvement for the cost! Everyone beats up on Canon, but they have some excellent offerings in this price range, such as SL-2, M50, and RP. Sony also has excellent offerings, A6400 etc. Nikon, who is not doing well is never mentioned in this price range.

[@calvinh2196]

This was very helpful as a suggestion to my friend in terms of upgrading to a full frame mirrorless camera!

[@DeepteshLovesTECH]

A7ii has IBIS right? Didn't mention that?

[@HyunRalphJeong]

I did briefly mention it

[@omareision]

You can buy X-T3 for 900 usd and it performs better in video, dynamic range, AF and burst than both these cameras. Also, doing my tests, X-T2 (hence X-T3) performs similarly to A7II with noise. I think not everything is sensor size...

[@ayayoutuber]

I use RF and EF L lenses and RP makes great pictures still up to now. The only thing I think missing is animal AF since it tend to incorrect focus until I touch to correct. I am still debating going to 20mp R6 ...R6 has better dynamic range but I seldom shoot that far off range..5 stops? ... don't care about dual card slot cause I never need that to begin with...coming from shooting film. R5 is a over kill and the price is high as well...I rather spend on lens now since lens keep value long term. I will probably get R5 only a year or two from now when price drops on used market.

[@__cagri__]

did you get the R5

[@angryoaf]

I own the A7ii. It definitely shows its age. It's a great camera for casual use but if you're dipping your feet into a commercial workflow, it'll definitely show its age. I "upgraded" from the Canon 77D but the 77D is much better at focusing. The A7ii is also verrrrry slow and AF slows down a lot if you're shooting for a few hours and the camera starts to heat up There's nothing worse than shooting consistently for a while and then having your camera performance just dip. Way more hunting, way more out of focus shots, everything is moving way slower than before at the point in a shoot where everyone's getting tired and I just want to finish up. On paper they seem similar. Even after a quick test they seem similar. But, in practice the A7ii is an old camera and it shows.

[@glennnyland7047]

Hi, I also have the 77d, and have been looking to get the A7ii instead, but do you experience better low light performance and shaper images with it over the 77d? Is it worth the money in between? I may go for the RP instead, but kinda curios to get over to the Sony world.

[@Flyback429]

You forgot to talk about IBIS advantage, I have a A7ii with adapted Canon 70-200 f4 non IS and the IBIS is very awesome!.

[@CallMeRabbitzUSVI]

Yeah he mentioned it a little in the beginning but never again, having IBIS vs not having it is a game changer. Plus, the Sony a7 ii can shoot in LOG while the Canon RP cannot

[@jeni719]

IBIS is handled by canon in the lenses. With their new R5, R6 the IBIS contribution is about 2-3 stops, vs 5 stops for the lens.

[@brandongodinez1721]

What is the best camera for cannabis macro photography?

[@KptnHaddock_]

pinhole made out of a bong

[@Potatoverynice]

u forgot to add that you're asking for a friend

[@jimrussell8080]

Tweekers need cameras?

[@carpattack]

RP. How could it be a question ? They are not in the same "weight class".

[@angeloregina]

Great video comparing entry level full frame cameras.

[@cooloox]

Great comparison and different outcomes to what I was expecting. That RP is not bad at all, especially for the price.

[@jeni719]

If you want to get into the Sony ecosystem at this price, might be better off with buying the A-6400 and save your money for the A7III down the road. A7II would be a frustrating camera to use, I personally would hate it. I think it would be a better way to go.

[@SwayopticsTV]

I think this isn’t a fair comparisons considering the Sony a7ii was released in 2014 and the RP was released in 2019.

[@HyunRalphJeong]

This isn't sports. Just a piece of consumer advice because they're priced roughly the same.

[@techoasys]

This is a very fair comparison, and one that many have been searching endlessly for that didn't exist until this guy graciously posted a video. You have to remember, Sony was the front-runner for many years in the mirrorless market, and some would argue still are at the top, including myself. It has taken other camera companies nearly 6yrs to catch-up with their offerings.

[@kenzyfiona]

Fantastic video, thank you so much

[@andrear9500]

Very good topic and interesting comparison!

[@iamhassan9943]

As the RP is newer I definitely would not have expected less. Will you a video on your opinion of the Nikon Z 5?

[@HyunRalphJeong]

Haven’t reviewed any Nikons on this channel but I will if i get my hands on them. What would you like to know?

[@iamhassan9943]

Hyun Ralph Jeong You seem to be a well balanced and honest reviewer. I would be interested to know how you see the Z5 in the context of its specs and not what “influencers” see. Is this a good step for an entry full frame relative to its competition? What does an entry level full frame at this price (especially the rumored Sony “A5”) mean for APS-C. Just general interest. Thank you for your time and for responding.

[@HyunRalphJeong]

Hassan T I appreciate it. I think they’ll start shipping at the end of this month so I’ll try to get a review unit.

[@techoasys]

@@HyunRalphJeong I would throughly enjoy this comparison too. I just subscribed today. I am so thankful you posted a detailed video comparison of these two cameras that I could not find on the internet anywhere.

[@HyunRalphJeong]

techoasys thank you, glad you enjoyed it.

[@jbeats02]

I own both and can get good photos out of both, but I enjoy shooting with the rp more.

[@MatthewWagnerFilms]

So helpful!! Thank you! You’ve got a gift for these type of videos. Very clear and straight forward

[@shielahowland9141]

BeautifulGirls.Relax

[@Weizel88]

What do we learn from here: Sony lures you with the “IBIS” and the much more compatible lenses. BUT 90% of the lenses are much more expensive than the Canon RF ones.

[@77appyi]

useful vid... i was expecting the sony to wipe the floor with the RP when it came to DR as the RP only has 0.8 of a stop more DR than my 5Dmki from 2005 ..i dont have a problem with lack of DR with my 5D as A i like shadows B i expose to the right ...granted if i cock it up i am stuffed ..DR vs ISO ..in my experience inrealty most run out of light more often than DR and more photos are spoiled because of noise or camera shake than lack of DR .... i would rather give my 5D 1 stop of ISO than 1 stop of DR......so i think the RP with a 0.8 stop of DR and 1.2 stops of ISO and 14 more MP should be a good upgrade

[@mariooy6120]

Could you guys help me which one is better Sony or Canon from your experience. Thanks.

[@abrahamalbertn]

comparing Sony and Canon is like comparing Android to iOS. (good hardware, a lot of feature and customisable vs ease of use). Sony (i had A7iii) get a lot of cool feature, but yeah, the color science isn't the best out of camera. But i can work it out in LightRoom. It takes a lot of my time though, correcting the color. For Canon, i'm happy with the picture i got straight from my EOS R (i'm ended with EOS R, not RP because the dynamic range isn't that good). But hey, you should try Sony A7C. Sony sure improved their color science in that camera.

[@davidcantu5923]

Great comparisons! Thank you!

[@yustinwiranaga6697]

Thank you for great comparison. I have bought EOSRP + RF35, and happy with this setup for walk around. But still waiting for EOS M7 a.k.a EOS M5ii because my small hand already have all M lenses (22f2, 32f1.4, 28f2.8, 11-22, 15-45, 18-150, 55-200, Sigma 17-70) 😅

[@williamduncan7401]

Rf nifty nifty 50mm 1.8 STM is about 200 eur, absolutely great lens, I'd say much better than the 24-105 f4 usm (not L series)

[@migflc778]

this is the most down to earth review ive seen so far but im super confused. buying my first camera soon mainly for IG pictures. need the high quality defition... im kind of decided on the sony a7ii but still i wonder if theres any cheaper options ill be happy with? there seems to be a general cult of "sony or nothing" so i'm king of in the market for a sony lol i've also seen the a6100 but i've never held a camera that wasnt full frame sensor so i have no idea of what to expect?

[@stephencosta6814]

Fantastic review give us all the things we want to know

[@scottparis6355]

The RP looks like an interesting camera, but until Canon brings out some primes that aren't bigger and heavier than the camera and cost less than two and a half times what the body costs, I'll be holding on to my money. Seriously, who are they selling $2,500 lenses to?

[@todanrg3]

They have the 35 1.8 and 85 F2 on the way. Probably a cheap 50mm is coming soon also.

[@scottparis6355]

@@todanrg3 There's a young lady who has a channel on KZbin about portrait photography. She uses one of the new Canons with the 85mm f1.2 lens. the pictures are very nice, but she's a small person and she looks like she's carrying around a trash barrel. I'm 6' 2" and 200 pounds, but I won't be considering these Canon cameras until they bring out some smaller (and less expensive) lenses. Thanks for the heads-up.

[@Henry_44]

@@scottparis6355 im 5'5 and skinny, i never understand why people complain about those lenses size amd weight, it's only slightly bigger and it's not even that much heavy,it makes me think people nowadays rarely exercise

[@chakwong]

Unfair comparison? Shouldn’t it be A7III vs RP?

[@trunggia]

Great review! Can you compare fujifilm xh1 and sony a7ii?

[@letni9506]

I want a full frame for bird photography. I can get great photos with my p950 and gx9 in decent light. But they lack on those gloomy English winter days. I don't want to spend the earth. Like £1200 max for the body and £1000 for the lens. I don't mind second hand. Any other options besides these? I really like the look of the rp. Seems to fit my low light requirement but I'm not sure about the lens selection and people seem down on it.

[@victoriavang4106]

Why was there such a price increase on the A7ii ? I can't find a new new one for 1000 . They are now 1600 ?!??!?!

[@seabiscuit-8770]

I don’t think the RP supports 24@1080 Maybe I’m wrong

[@Rod9844]

Hyun, I'm a Cannon t3 user and looking to upgrade. The new Cannon eos RP looks like a really nice camera. Although with the smaller body style once you add an external flash with a bigger lens how is it to hold and shoot in terms of balance. I'm new to your channel and having been a television cameraman which turned into photograph I excited to see your reviews.Thank you!!!

[@todanrg3]

RP will be HUUGE upgrade from the T3.