I 3D Printed Andrey's 1977 Pontiac Can Am 1/25 scale - Elegoo Saturn 4 - 8k water wash resin

[@deenjoan9938]

Wow nice Pontiac looks like it will be a cool build for sure .Thanks for the look James

[@ScaleModelExperiment]

Thanks for watching Deen, I appreciate your support 👍

[@ghrobbs]

I'm glad you're showing the failures with the good. I run into this at times. It's hard to explain to people what can go wrong. I just loooove Andrey's designs.

[@ScaleModelExperiment]

I don’t want to sugar coat the whole printing experience. Failures happen for no apparent reason. Clear the plate and try again.

[@ghrobbs]

@ScaleModelExperiment It sucks at times, especially after a 15-hour print. Like you said, all you can do is clear the plate & start over.

[@FranksModelWorks]

I’m going to print the same body tomorrow morning so it’s ready for when I get home from work. Great work James!

[@ScaleModelExperiment]

Let me know how it turns out Frank I’m interested to see if you get a perfect print.

[@patrickskiver6143]

What a great, much needed car to have available to all of us Pontiac fans! Now I need to buy a 3D printer!

[@ScaleModelExperiment]

Hi Pat, I know a guy…

[@theintake8961]

Awesome video James! I always loved the Can Am! 🎄🧑‍🎄😎👍

[@ScaleModelExperiment]

Hi Intake, TBH I didn’t really know anything about the CanAm. The styling is growing on me now that I’ve printed it. It’s like a grand touring Trans Am👍

[@MetalMania3DTV-TAS-AUS]

Appreciate the costing, so others will understand why 3d-print-models are more expensive to buy, another great Video James 📹 👍 🇦🇺🦘🪃🤝🇺🇸🍻🍻

[@ScaleModelExperiment]

Thanks for watching KC Aussie bud👍 it wouldn’t be bad if the first print was perfect every time. This one took 3 times to get the body right.

[@MetalMania3DTV-TAS-AUS]

@ScaleModelExperiment you're welcome and totally understand, as i wish every print was awesome, got lots of junk 😂 Cheers 🍻🇦🇺🦘

[@plastiksurgeon9129]

That came out nice Jim! One thing that might help, and I may have mentioned this before…….if you put supports on the inside of the body on the side where Chitubox won’t place ‘em, that can help keep the model steadier on its way up from the lift cycle. At least greatly minimize the shift where some slight sanding is only needed, and you have to do that anyway. What I’d like is the ‘77 Lemans he has coming. That was my Driver’s Ed car among several back in high school. I’m waiting until CGTrader has one of their sales again. I’ve several in mind besides his I’d like to get. ⏰

[@ScaleModelExperiment]

Thanks again Bill, next time I print a body I’ll make sure to support the inside door panels and inner rockers. I hate to jump up to a medium size support as I like the tiny dimples over craters.

[@KarlScaleModeling]

Nice video right there James, makes me realize how 3D printers open up a whole new world in our hobby! Lovely Pontiac too, thanks for sharing.

[@ScaleModelExperiment]

Thank you Karl, the world is wide open now for any kit to be made by a talented designer. 👍

[@Eddie-di6eb6cv8v]

Oh wow! Great Pontiac. I remember years ago seeing a white one at a cruise in. It should build up beautifully.

[@chaoscustoms7785]

Really nice looking car

[@ScaleModelExperiment]

Thanks for watching Chaos, I agree!

[@MetalMania3DTV-TAS-AUS]

Wow new release of Andrey Bezrodny files, you're onto it James 😊, ok back to watching 👀 👌

[@ScaleModelExperiment]

Andrey is a new friend to the channel. I hope to bring new stuff to the channel for the foreseeable future 👍

[@carlkandetzki9077]

That is very cool. My brother had a friend at work who had a can am

[@ScaleModelExperiment]

Hi Carl, they are a cool mix of a touring car and sports car. I’m looking forward to building it someday. Thanks for watching👍

[@curtisboxill-boxmansbuilds2980]

Pretty cool print,nice to see cars like this available.🙂

[@ScaleModelExperiment]

I saw that the Smokey and the Bandit 4 door cop car is coming soon. It’s a good time for all.

[@plastiksurgeon9129]

One feature I do like about his Can Am is he modeled the rear window slats shut. I had mine open when I designed the print file of the ‘73 Grand Am months ago, and the supports pulled some of them away. So yeah……that’s a good idea to mesh those closed…..less chance of a print failure.

[@ScaleModelExperiment]

Thanks for watching Bill, so I should scribe them open when I build it or maybe just some panel liner for a shadow?

[@plastiksurgeon9129]

@@ScaleModelExperiment I’d shadow line it if it were me. Resin is too brittle for my tastes to scribe anything open, and that’s when Murphy’s Law will strike and you crack one of the slats. I don’t think too many will notice that there’s no window behind the slats. 🤪

[@ScaleModelExperiment]

True Bill, Murphy and I are tight these days🤪

[@plastiksurgeon9129]

@ 😁😁😁

[@styrenerelics]

Wow, what a great looking Can Am. I tried to buy one in school but dad said no. So I bought a 69 Camaro instead. I still have a soft spot for these to this day.

[@ScaleModelExperiment]

Wow, both of those are great cars to have in HS. I had a 71 Mustang (beat) and a 74 Cutlass. This was in 1985.

[@mattfarahsmillionmilelexus]

One of my favorite '70s Pontiacs, this car ranks right up there with the Bandit Trans Am. Been waiting for this file for a long time. Does anyone make decals for it?

[@ScaleModelExperiment]

Hi Matt, Andrey included a file so you can laser print your own decals out. He said it was his first attempt so I hope that he will do more in the future.

[@timstuper]

Looks nice james!!

[@ScaleModelExperiment]

Thanks for watching Tim. I’ll bring it to the next meeting

[@thescalemodelcarguychannel8681]

James great video brother and awesome print ❤😊

[@ScaleModelExperiment]

Thanks for watching Shawn, sorry you didn’t win brother!

[@thescalemodelcarguychannel8681]

@ScaleModelExperiment there's always next time lol

[@PaulBertrand-rd8tt]

Nice to see the latest model from Andrey, will be getting it and the TVR Sagaris, there is 1 for sale in England now on Autotrader 68.000 pounds, twice the price of the T350 or Tuscan.

[@ScaleModelExperiment]

Hi Paul, I would love to drive one of them someday. They are banned in the USA. Probably because of silly unsafe rules🤪

[@dvdw_graphics_crafts]

The result came out quite sharp!

[@ScaleModelExperiment]

Thanks so much DVDW, I'm pretty happy with the result. It'll make for a nice model.

[@rayrussell6258]

The Can Am was a car I really wanted in my youth, but could never afford (either the car or high insurance on it). Via 3D printing, this would in a way substitute for the 1:1. However, as I learn more about the 3D printing process, I'm finding it alarming that there are quite a few "failures" in printing, and unexplainable errors that need extra body work to get printed models "corrected", even for somone doing the printing with a lot of experience such as you have, James. A lot of resin is being wasted, a hidden cost versus buying kits from AMT, Revell and others. I'm back on a budget in retirement, and am becoming less sure of 3D being cost effective. I'll keep watching you guys, and hopefully will learn how to better keep cost of prints down.

[@ScaleModelExperiment]

That’s the truth Ray, it isn’t all sunshine and rainbows with 3d printing. All of us are trying to figure out the best formula of settings angles and what not to avoid misprints. It’s actually fun though. Please don’t get me wrong. It is a challenge to print a perfect kit. I’m working hard at it.

[@jakejacob9814]

Could always try the recycled pop bottle filament hack

[@Shade_tree_garage01]

the only thing i really do dislike/think he can fix about his GM/Chevy/GMC kits is the center bolt head 1987-2003 style of cylinder heads that come with the Engine models. it should be the 1960-1986 style with the perimeter 4 bolt covers.. I have 3D modeled the proper valve covers for his engine, its still kind of weird to see it come with a pre TBI GM vehicle

[@ScaleModelExperiment]

I’m not that deep into the details. I actually prefer curbside models so I don’t have to think about the engine 😂

[@dannysnead2852]

Resin your own model kit is so cool.👍👍

[@ScaleModelExperiment]

Agreed Danny, thanks for watching 👍

[@keithsmodelsandrcs6593]

Looks nice Jame's issue I get I think it's cause I use crealitys cloud to print from I get like little swirl style shapes threw out body but does sand smooth but the swirls I taut are layers it's resin printer not a filament printer... I've actually 3 printers I was considering donating the elegoo mars pro to someone in the modelling community that hasn't got one it was my very 1st one it gave me nothing but headaches 😂 while learning. But yeah sorry for getting off topic that turned out awsome clean and clear what resin u using on your elegoo printer engine a so very detailed ike headers very nice prints james do you print at a set degree in percentages or do u just tilt a little for each part

[@ScaleModelExperiment]

Hi Keith, I did use the Elegoo Saturn 4 printer for this model. It was printed at 2.4 exposure time with .025 layer height using Elegoo 8k resin. I prefer the smoke grey and vanilla colors because it’s easier to paint light colors over them.

[@keithsmodelsandrcs6593]

@ScaleModelExperiment thanks yeah I'm using 8k HALOT mage pro use standard cloud supports wit it's build in slicer I have free year chubox pro card came with the printer few weeks ago I don't know if I'll try it chitubox I mean cause phone does cloud for crealitys slicing I find it easyer but ill try the settings on my printer to see if It helps with some neater looking prints. Thanks James, 👍keith

[@69airride3]

The z axis shift line seems to have occurred on drivers side where the tilt has been applied. Could this be remedied in adjusting this value up or down? Would it be possible to let us know what angle settings you did use? Thank you for sharing.

[@ScaleModelExperiment]

Hi Airride, I don’t know the exact angle but most times I angle everything 13 degrees in both directions. Is that calculated? Nope, it’s just what I do👍

[@69airride3]

@@ScaleModelExperiment Thank you Sir, and do you think that the 13 degrees on the side tilt angle is what might have caused the Z axis shift lines and if so, could it be corrected by increasing or decreasing that value?. Just got an Elegoo mars 5 ultra....just trying to soak it all up. Thanks

[@ScaleModelExperiment]

The tilt and angle get rid of the print lines which this one had none. After talking with friends they reminded me to put supports on the backside of the long flat panels to keep them in place. Just the bottom is not enough. That will eliminate the model from moving and z shifting.

[@69airride3]

@@ScaleModelExperiment Ah yes I remember seeing that mentioned on the pod cast with Mr. Obsessive. Thanks again

[@ScaleModelExperiment]

I chat with him sometimes with my questions. Great guy!

[@StoutCreations24]

That is really cool. 🙌🏼

[@ScaleModelExperiment]

Thanks so much for watching, I appreciate your support!

[@davidchin350]

Very nice Can Am body👍

[@ScaleModelExperiment]

Thank you for watching David 👍

[@pierrededinard1957]

Another nice model from Andrey! the Z offset problem seems to be recurring.. shouldn't you try steeper tilt angles?

[@ScaleModelExperiment]

I’m finding that lower print angles make the z shift issue go away. It’s just a theory though.

[@hortonshotrodshop2003]

Very cool car and it is great to see one being done you are making really want a printer. Would be a lot of fun would probably go broke buying files.

[@ScaleModelExperiment]

Haha and resin! Thanks for watching Horton!

[@jamesthompson8008]

Very nice rendering of a EXCELLENT subject. Being both a Pontiac fan & an owner of one of those cars, the body LOOKS RIGHT! The interior panels & dash are pretty accurate, the seat pattern isn't though(a small detail). That engine is almost to die for in accuracy!! Best detailed Pontiac V8 I've seen in scale. Concerning Z shift - having operated CMM machines, is it possible there is a minor calibration issue(in Z axis)? I only mention it as it shows in all 3 examples. On CMMs, calibration before every run is key. Beautiful work of a beautiful car!

[@ScaleModelExperiment]

Thanks for watching James. I’m glad you enjoyed it. I’ll keep working on supports to get a perfect body print. I don’t think it’s the printer itself.

[@keithsmodelsandrcs6593]

Don't forget the electricity price too ha ha😂👍

[@ScaleModelExperiment]

Oh boy, that’s the truth!

[@keithsmodelsandrcs6593]

@@ScaleModelExperiment 😂😂🎄

[@bilplaymo6121]

Thanks for sharing, nice quality resin, thanks for the link, and already a customer of Andrej, what a varied choice! if you are into American cars you will like it, like here... My scales: 1/32 and 1/6 (all or nothing lol), please how long does it take to print this pretty Pontiac? 1/25 scale right ? And please if you have an idea : when Cults make regulary discount prices like other 3D website ? seems never ! ....Thanks for sharing my friend ; ) 3D is Futur !

[@ScaleModelExperiment]

Thanks for watching! You can find Andrey’s files on CG trader as well. They do 50% off sales often. You can load up on files then. This print took about 8 hours on the printer at .025 resolution.

[@busterscustoms]

Nice Video James I Just printed this out myself

[@ScaleModelExperiment]

Hi Buster, how did your print come out?

[@busterscustoms]

@@ScaleModelExperiment turned out excellent no z shift lines very clean

[@ScaleModelExperiment]

@ so jealous!

[@busterscustoms]

@ abs like 3.0 resin Saturn 4 ultra I’ll show it in my video tomorrow

[@ScaleModelExperiment]

I’ll watch for it.

[@jenniferbeyer6412]

The Can Am is a great car. It's on my list of cars for my collection. And it has to be the Blue.

[@ScaleModelExperiment]

Blue? I thought all of them were painted white by the factory. I agree though as i like light blue metallic as well👍

[@jenniferbeyer6412]

@ScaleModelExperiment they had stripes alone the body lines. They were blue, red, orange and yellow. And maybe more. The interiors were white thit the accent color, or tan. Also they had power locks and windows. I can't remember what engine was the standard. Possibly the Pontiac 400, 455, or Olds 403. I prefer the Olds 403. The Buick Riviera i had had an Olds 403 and it was an engine that lasted to over 500,000 plus miles on it. Hope you show the finished car.

[@ScaleModelExperiment]

Thanks for the info. I’ll start it in the new year.

[@jenniferbeyer6412]

Could you make a 1978 Buick Riviera? I have never found a model of one.

[@ScaleModelExperiment]

Unfortunately I don’t design models I just print them and sometimes build them 🤪. Eventually someone will do something similar to what you need.

[@Terry-390]

Thats really cool.

[@ScaleModelExperiment]

Thanks for watching Terry!

[@jerryragusa522]

Thanks for the review, I really like Can AM looks. I have purchased and printed many of Andrey's models. My question is graphics/decals I have his 2023 Dodge TRX printed, but have not found any type of decal for that truck, and that's just one of the resin kits. FYI I've been to Ray's Kits (decals) web site. I have zero talent with graphics design software. Just interested in how you approach the graphics?

[@jerryragusa522]

I guess I should have gone to Cults first, looks like he includes decals with this model. I'll have to check if he updated the other models.

[@ScaleModelExperiment]

Hi Jerry, this was his first model that he did decal art for it. Just like windows, no decals is kind of a downfall to resin print models.

[@jerryragusa522]

@@ScaleModelExperiment Windows are an issue, I tried to print clear resin for windows, from 2 different manufactures and countless YT videos and online suggestions, they were always cloudy, I broke down and purchased a vacuum-form machine, and standard resin printed window bucks and then vacuum-formed them, a bit of trial and error but they look better.

[@ScaleModelExperiment]

I’m still trying to perfect the same thing using a vacuum forming machine. Sucks to make forms for just 1 set of windows.

[@Trumpforprezz28]

I really want to learn to do this can you tell me the 3d printer I need and where to get the files?

[@ScaleModelExperiment]

I’m glad that you found the videos I was going to suggest you watch.

[@NelsonHughes-k9m]

what are you gonig to build jstock or rod do you expect the price o resin supplies to rise in 25 THe grill is opened up nicely

[@ScaleModelExperiment]

Hi Nelson, I was thinking box stock. I hope not, I print a lot of stuff!

[@solracohcnap]

Hello, Why do you tilt the model to print? What advantages does it have? The print was very good, that bodywork was very beautiful.

[@ScaleModelExperiment]

The tilt and angles are to eliminate print lines. Please watch the video I did “idiots guide to printing bodies” it has the Mustang bodies on the thumbnail. I printed two bodies one with and without tilt to show the differences.

[@markcole6475]

Will the 3D printer you have listed on Amazon print 1/8 and 1/10 scale?

[@ScaleModelExperiment]

Yes, but you’ll have to section and angle big pieces and it will take a lot of resin to print in those scales. It can print whatever scale you want.

[@dalekoster9955]

Ordered one back in 77 at 18 1/2 years of age. When they cancelled the car, dealer wanted me to buy a Trans Am. I asked for my two grand back. Would love to build one in scale.

[@ScaleModelExperiment]

That’s a great story Dale👍 do you remember how much the car was back then?

[@dalekoster9955]

@ I remember not wanting it loaded. AM/FM 8 track, A/C was about the only options. I’m thinking it would have been about eight Gs or so. Can’t remember.

[@alanr4863]

Looking for a 64 dodge station wagon model or reisn

[@ScaleModelExperiment]

I don’t think that’s been done yet. Eventually someone will do it.

[@martinmicallef4847]

What is Andrey's site for print files?

[@ScaleModelExperiment]

Check the video description for a link to Andrey’s cults3d page.

[@tompalcie6284]

It would be cool if he could do the version that Stanford sketched up. It had early Camaro style bumpers and roll pans front and rear.

[@ScaleModelExperiment]

Looking thru his catalog it’s mostly stock versions of cars. We can wish though…

[@jayypeezy36]

What kind of 3d printer are u using boss?

[@ScaleModelExperiment]

Hi Jay, I use an Elegoo Saturn 4 12k printer and Elegoo’s 8k resin.

[@jayypeezy36]

@ScaleModelExperiment thanks for the replay brotha! 👍🤜🤛

[@ScaleModelExperiment]

Of course man!

[@danielpaulsness6951]

Nice 😎😁

[@ScaleModelExperiment]

Thanks for watching Daniel, I appreciate your support 👍

[@danielpaulsness6951]

@ScaleModelExperiment your welcome 😁

[@Thunderbyrd.]

I'm so doing this!

[@ScaleModelExperiment]

There you go! Have at it 👍

[@TomyLeCorre]

Sa c'est l'avantage d'avoir une imprimante 3D 😊 je compte investir dans une imprimante 3D 🤩👍

[@ScaleModelExperiment]

You’ll love it Tomy! It just takes time and patience to master the slicing program.

[@TomyLeCorre]

@ScaleModelExperiment oui beaucoup de choses passe par la patience dont l'apprentissage pour la programmation 😉👍

[@MetalMania3DTV-TAS-AUS]

Failure prints make brilliant diorama pieces for a workshop body shop, or wrecks or paddock cars, 😊

[@ScaleModelExperiment]

If it wouldn’t cost me so much I’d send you all my misprints 🤪

[@MetalMania3DTV-TAS-AUS]

@ScaleModelExperiment yes agree shipping is out of control, costs are horrendous, but thanks for the thought 👊🍻🇦🇺🦘

[@rayrussell6258]

lol, or just junk yards on our bench! 😉

[@travisweeks7819]

While the kit looks cool

[@ScaleModelExperiment]

As always, thank you for your support Travis!