Solving Laziness with Asmongold | Dr. K Interviews

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00:00 introduction
06:20 Success & Jails
12:40 Failure to Commit, Laziness
19:30 Dying
32:20 Moments of enlightenment, Laziness
1:04:50 breaking doing "because I am Lazy"
1:29:15 Dharma, Responsibility, Hedonism
1:50:33 Meditation
2:02:40 Closing thoughts
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[@HealthyGamerGG]

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[@nice2253]

So i'm bored

[@jackboyd3741]

YOOOO, I STILL SKIP AND I'M 20! For speed, Not whilst happy...

[@Ty-nq4fh]

Your knees are gonna hate you.

[@unicornsrfsweet]

@@jackboyd3741 l the

[@unicornsrfsweet]

@@jackboyd3741 l the

[@JCarterCARS]

Asmongold: "Im lazy" Dr. K: *gets a tea delivered to his room* LOL

[@AREYdaABBOT]

😂😂😂

[@AaronGrosch29]

Zack's response was great too. The smirk eyebrow raise. Efficiency king recognizes efficiency when he sees it. 🤣

[@stejkoman]

How convenient

[@balancebreaker1561]

@@stejkoman ironic

[@invitrace9185]

That looked like Dr. K testing Asmon to see how he'd react to being interrupted rudely.

[@kevinworley7096]

“If a light bulb dies, I just don’t use that room anymore” 😂

[@carlos2004]

lol, that one got me too. personally, i'm lazy, but i'll try find a work around that doesn't require much work. for example, my car ac leaks, but i just refill it every other year, while struggling a bit on the off year and just not have the ac working as it should.

[@NeccoWecco]

He explains it was because he was too poor to replace it, not because of choice.

[@kevinworley7096]

NeccoWecco We know. Was just a funny way of putting it. Put your sword down, sire!

[@kevinworley7096]

Carlos I think that’s the human mindset from old times. Less equals less calories burned. Unfortunately with fast food and all the convenience of modern times, it ain’t working out for some 😂

[@callmegary2622]

lmfao i laughed so hard. Something u hear peter griffin say.

[@jskaggsd]

"You're trying to send them a signal that you can be a fuck-up in life and still live a life worth living." This is exactly why I watch Asmon.

[@sp00kyd4ddy6]

The fact you know this random man by asmon is enough to tell you he obviously isn't a fuck up and did something right atleast enough to make him a famous millionaire

[@BingDwenDwen]

Is that even a compliment 😂

[@alec6583]

The guy raised $50,000 in minutes because his viewers wanted him to take a shower. This is why _everyone_ watches Asmon.

[@Battlefield2021]

Being rich and well known doesn't mean you aren't a loser.@@sp00kyd4ddy6

[@HammerOfDawnnn]

@@alec6583 I don't even play games. Asmon is 90% of my youtube feed. Yes, even the hours long gaming streams. Asmon is a necessity for a silent majority.

[@mxcxzsz5150]

Watching Dr.K’s sessions makes me realize how shit my last therapist was.

[@omerdenizci7110]

same bro

[@bellumletale988]

Finding a good therapist in itself is a battle of RNG lol

[@agent5657]

Same

[@lucidnode]

My friend needs this. I don't think they know what a good therapist is and I think sometimes they rely on me to be their therapist and I no longer have my shit together enough to help them there.

[@asuna694]

@@bellumletale988 you are hilariously accurate. Therapists are people too, with different quality, techniques, and demension.

[@narooks7482]

15:45 Asmongold looking sad (as he often do) Dr. K.: "A-are you feeling okay?" Asmongold: "Im feeling great..." - looks even more sad.

[@iShredStreets]

Aaww! Poor guy.

[@CaeiTridz]

the poor guy looks like a lost puppy

[@astralisk]

i think he’s depressed, you can see how sad he is on his second twitch account

[@iShredStreets]

@@astralisk Yeah, he might be. But if he's not willing to admit it then there is nothing we can do.

[@morroc6846]

@@astralisk Idk about that bc in his second account he is just chilling and playing WoW, no need to entertain chat, that he will do all week long.

[@Xtazieyo]

Its really astonishing to me that a guy who usually gets potrayed as this kind of degenerate nerd streamer by the Twitch Community, is actually one of the mentally healthiest/smartest/most upright people Dr. K has ever interviewed. It shows in the way he speaks and Alok recognized that from the first minute on (look at the way he smiles when Asmon is talking)!

[@grujson8112]

I understand why you got that impression of him at first, but in reality.. this is him, also on KZbin. On steam he's joking around talking shit and its his CHAT that's 90% of degenerates

[@LunaTulpa]

there's zack, and there's asmongold check zackrawrr if you want more of him as you stated

[@mostneuter]

To be honest, if you saw his videos on his channel ZackRawrr, you wouldn't be surprise

[@assaultprice12]

Method acting.

[@cottoncandylol7175]

I don't watch him all too much, sometimes to his reaction vids pop up in my KZbin feed and I will. I've always got the impression that he was very well spoken and enjoyable to listen to. Who thinks that he's a degenerate nerd streamer?

[@mr.zendar885]

"Just because you don't know how you function, doesn't mean you are broken" -Dr.K Fucking Beautiful.

[@joshuatorres9772]

Agreed

[@MrReageo]

Your mind is not a monolith, its more like a 40 man raid, and there's a Leeroy Jenkins in there trying to fuck everything up. - This is pure gold

[@konraddavies4722]

"Leroy Jenkins is the reason you can't get up in the morning" lmao

[@inferno2143]

"When a light goes off i just stop using that room" Improvise. Adapt. Overcome.

[@matthewhammond859]

😂

[@x0re89]

holy shit that killed me haha

[@brandogtv9650]

This dude is a legend.

[@Romne]

True tard solution lol

[@TacoInvader69]

I kinda get that tbf, i have a broken light having above me as we speak

[@into-the-weeds]

Dr.K: I need to avoid yelling into the mic Dr.K 10 minutes later: LEEEEEERRRROOOOOYYYYYY

[@lordswaggity1213]

someone find that timestamp it's too good

[@dagekwall5768]

49:05 :)

[@Lechmpro]

@@lordswaggity1213 Being lazy in the comment section of a video on laziness is meta as fuck. I like it.

[@unknownentity8256]

😂😂😂😂

[@artickulate]

Jean Charest 😂

[@karimloberg6876]

"I guess I've had that experience because before 1990 I did not exist." This was really good.

[@jaredprimo2386]

It was brilliant it's the first time I've heard it explained like that and it is perfect

[@OracleTheRonin]

I'm sure many philosophers have said similar things, I heard Ricky Gervais say something similar actually XD about how death isn't a big deal, the earth existed for billions of years before us and will after us, we are just a moment something like that

[@gordonfreemanthesemendemon1805]

many people have probably thought of this but the only one i know of is Mark Twain who has the famous quote "I do not fear death. I had been dead for billions and billions of years before I was born, and had not suffered the slightest inconvenience from it." Another quote from him that i think suits this interview well is "The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man who lives fully is prepared to die at any time. " Asmond seems to believe this, but then because of it he concludes "damn, i must not be living fully!" and it's giving him stress.

[@hakairyu1]

@@OracleTheRonin I think it’s Epicurus’ take, originally.

[@BitterTast3]

I still find the idea of death scary af

[@jazzlefrazz5524]

I love how professional yet chaotic this interview was. I like seeing realness along with professionalism

[@1996Pinocchio]

Dr.K "Let's think about this for a moment." Asmongold: "I actually thought about this." Gets me every time

[@VanessaCarney]

This doctor rules

[@jjfishice2319]

@@VanessaCarney which one

[@Phunkophil]

If anyone told me, there was gonna be a harvard trained physician talking with a WoW streamer about the fear of death and the nature of enlightening moments by using references like Leeroy Jenkins, ten years ago, I'd have laughed at them so hard.

[@Basuko_Smoker]

2020 is a good year set decade records

[@dabartos4713]

It's a weird place this world of ours :D

[@psd90]

Look who’s laughing now.... Zack and Doc are. He he haw haw

[@_Checkmang]

I'm not sure if it you said it intentionally but he's a Psychiatrist* not a physician?- which is even crazier because the vast majority of Psychiatrists are really unprogressive

[@Phunkophil]

@@_Checkmang Isn't that how he always introduces himself? Harvard trained physician? Idk, that's what I remembered, maybe I got it wrong, these terms are sometimes a bit confusing in english to me.

[@CallistaHooper]

I've slammed through several of your interviews the past couple weeks in learning to deal with my own traumas, and all of them were enlightening. But, this one was especially incredible. Strangely I feel both hopeful and frightened. Thank you for doing these :)

[@Traductorero]

Dr K is so natural. It's refreshing to see a psychiatrist be so natural. As a training physician, I wish I had mentor like him especially since I'm headed to psychiatry too.

[@hermitkrab792]

Are you practicing now?

[@Traductorero]

@@hermitkrab792 I am. I'm a full fledged doctor now working in the community setting and doing primary mental health care too. Thanks for asking!

[@ShufflerBurst]

Takes a lot of heart for Zack to put himself out here like this, much respect

[@4_times_college_dropout_tr24]

you could say, he has a heart of gold.

[@WoWsoEPIC]

He has always been real and genuine. Not sure how you are just now seeing that.

[@gronkiusmaximus]

@@WoWsoEPIC He's not saying that, he's saying it takes balls to put yourself out to be in a vulnerable position as such a big streamer out like this

[@justinTime077]

I actually find this to be a really odd fad and everyone is just copying off of the 1337 King, his royalty, Athene.

[@DonSeldum]

It's really brave of him...

[@TimTom]

Man I wish I could find a doctor that's as good as you at drilling into the root of problems. I really struggle to understand what contributes to either side of my "laziness equation"

[@lchenny8288]

Ask him for a talk he probably will

[@ChairmanMeow1]

Me too. I cant even find anyone to talk to because my insurance doesnt cover it. So I just keep getting worse and worse.

[@goodluck2522]

@@ChairmanMeow1 I would encourage you to watch these videos and use them for yourself. I like to hear Dr.K's questions - hit pause - and think about it myself. Like he says a lot of times - Awareness is the first step to helping your self. Good luck!

[@isaacstetson5720]

Bruh k is so educated and cares so much that’s a high bar to set for a therapist near you but goodluck!

[@Telindra]

@@ChairmanMeow1 don't lose hope. There's lots you can do to help yourself, and as the guy Good Luck said, whenever you hear questions in videos like this. Hit paus. Think. Give yourself time to answer the question for yourself. Revelations about yourself might happen from doing that. Something else which could potentially help you help yourself as well, is begin reading about all things psychology. Sometimes we discover things about ourselves from being curious about better understanding how other people function, and why they might be the way they are, and do the things that they do. I can't help you fix whatever is wrong in your life, but, if you feel you are in need of someone listening? Someone to tell whatever it is that is weighing heavy on you? Don't be afraid to reach out, I can be that person.

[@hoang2312]

35:50 the light shines on Asmongold's fivehead more and more and more as Dr.K talks about Enlightenment

[@GardenGrownGreens]

I like how I'm not the only one who noticed that. I found it interesting. (:

[@PatRiot-]

This comment is all love 😂

[@doom_hamster]

nice catch😆

[@visnau1126]

This podcast spoke to me on another level, it almost like asmongold was speaking exactly what was on my mind. This actually helped me a lot thanks.

[@lassipls]

This guy is actually an intellectual and a great psychiatrist. Dr. K was good too

[@kevinworley7096]

Haha

[@Drenamow]

Good one 😂

[@ninjawarrior4217]

ngl you got me in the first half

[@komlat253]

Haha wtf? Yea i feel like we could have a good conversation, we have a similar personality except im not so negative

[@Fozero]

hes not shit hold on mycoffee got delivered brb

[@kevinlindberg1588]

Zack always looks like he is about to cry but then jebaits you and smiles

[@isaacstetson5720]

When you have all the material things in life but the people you love are slowly dying around you and there’s nothing you can do to slow it. I’m sure he’s spent plenty nights crying and you could say he’s all cried out. Or maybe he’s not a crier? Either way he has dealt with some heavy shit and if you pay attention over the years you can tell he handles himself and emotions very well.

[@wicked5999]

Isaac Stetson :(

[@SuperTrisset]

@@isaacstetson5720 do you know him?

[@lmaolmfao7590]

@@SuperTrisset do you know him?

[@artellius7477]

@@abdulkarimelnaas7595 do you know him?

[@KeefThaLeef]

31:56 him talking about always wanting to preserve the memories, I totally understand that there is so much I wish I could have remembered about my past but so I don't forget I always record my endeavours with friends and family so it's solidified in time for me. This is the best episode by far.

[@JokerInk-CustomBuilds]

I have spend the past 25 yrs with the mindset of trying everything atleast once. I basicly wan't to taste everything life has to offer that I am curious about before it is over. I love music and being social and laughing with friends and also strangers so I was instantly attracted to music festivals. I have been to dozens of weeklong festivals and seen hundreds and hundreds of concerts. All in som varying degree of intoxication and euphoria. There is SO much I don't remember, but also SO much I do... Some things I know I have done, but I won't remember when or where. Other things I remember when and where but not with who or how I got there. Some thing are decades old but clear as yesterday and other things I only remember when someone I barely remember tells about me doing it. Life and memory is random. But it is being kept alive by remembering and talking about the experiences with friends and strangers. I allways tell stories of where I've been, what I've tried or seen or learned. Iand I love hereing stories from others because it reminds me of similar experiences of my own. Thats my BrainVlog. -Because I am too caught up in the moment to remember being my own cameraman...

[@m4r1o148]

A very beautiful thing to do for yourself and your loved ones, but I feel it's something you need to keep in check. Being focused on capturing a moment can easily distract from living it. I'm sure you're aware, I'm just speaking from experience.

[@PatRiot-]

It’s important to preserve those moments but I think the real point is to truly enjoy them as they happen. Reliving them later is amazing…but obviously humans were never supposed to be able to relive an experience or time. The fact we can may or may not be a good thing.

[@mgamer327]

The more i get to know the genuine Zack, the more I just love him to death. He's so intelligent, quick witted and funny, I love his personality and character. He's so fuckin cool

[@7Nebulae7]

I can't even express how much this whole conversation resonated with me.

[@Azhureus]

Same here

[@ninjawarrior4217]

same here

[@Kyzik244]

Fairly common sense. Laziness doesn't stem because the activity is too strenuous etc. Can be just too depressing to want to acknowledge.

[@Cause023]

You know it's true with me because I'm too lazy to watch 10 minutes of this

[@doofdum]

same man, really nice discussion to listen to fr

[@videozontherapy1440]

"I let the alarm go for 2 hours until it died" LMAO my man. Instantly became relatable to the point I felt like I knew Asmon personally

[@jarleskogly8388]

It's standard practice for me to run my phone out of battery. I even bought the sonic boom 120DB alarm clock, and believe it or not, I manage to sleep through that one as well. I think I need a Mr. Bean style alarm clock with boiling water droplets falling on the feet or something...

[@user-ti7me6yv7w]

Just did few days ago, I feel the alarm isn’t as loud as it normally goes, so I just be fk it, I am sleeping

[@cherb23]

That is lazy i get up 1 or 2 minutes before my alarm so my alarm is just a backup

[@artificiallyunintelligent4537]

@@cherb23 what if it’s not lazy it’s just a different way of the mind working or you have a more consistent sleep schedule

[@shanustheanus]

​@@artificiallyunintelligent4537what if they don't care and were just trying to brag, thinking somehow anyone is impressed by a random commenter getting up this way?

[@MrDesertPunk]

I can't get over how invested dr. K gets into these interviews. I freaking love this guy.

[@Steadyriot-is4jg]

He's a very genuine person, dr. k is just well rounded and you can see he's passionate in his profession and actually cares about the people he interviews.

[@DavidKFZ]

Those closing thoughts at the end were the cherry on top for this behavioural equation model, I replayed that section 3 times over, starting and stopping while taking notes. I think I might make a template out of it

[@Keemin]

Wow. THIS is peak HealthyGamerGG content. I feel like Dr K gets to really flex his muscles as an intellectual, therapist, and meditation teacher when paired with someone like Asmongold, who can actually keep up with what Dr K sometimes struggles to verbally communicate (due to the topics often being pretty hard to wrap your head around). Honestly I feel like they were on such a good wavelength together I could see them starting a recurring podcast together. I'd sure as hell tune in.

[@alexk.7064]

Whoever manages Healthygamer's YT channel, please forward this idea to Dr. K. Either a podcast or a weekly hour-or-so of them playing WoW together and talking about life would be amazing.

[@classyjohn1923]

there are single words that completely encompass a concept/idea that otherwise would take 5-10 minutes to explain.

[@Johnny5490]

@@classyjohn1923 what do you mean by that, in terms of the head comment about wavelength and podcast?

[@Keemin]

@@classyjohn1923 right. and if you aren't already familiar with the word, you need it explained to you, at which point there's no utility to using the word in the first place

[@scandireaper5063]

That would be cool, but Asmongold is already running his own podcast ''Allcraft''. If I know Asmon right, he wouldn't want to have too much going on at the same time

[@Mecha_Neko]

Dude, Asmon is genuinely one of the most well read, soft spoken people you'll ever see. At least when he's not raging about mount drops.

[@easyfinance8833]

guess what there it is dood

[@pxldoc1602]

TRUE

[@easyfinance8833]

@SofaSlyngel ?????

[@crimsoninterceptor]

I remember I got really annoyed by watching Asmons streams in the beginning. But after watching him more I clearly see a very smart, reflected and down to earth guy. His philosophy about not comparing one self to others all the time, is something more people would benefit a lot from.

[@DeadlyVax]

@@easyfinance8833 pretty sure that's a quote

[@ZakTheGuy]

I've avoided watching this since I've seen it originally uploaded because I knew how much it was going to resonate with me. The whole metaphor with the bladder and laziness really opened my eyes. It's exactly what I've been going through; I started out my first year of college with excellent grades, but now this laziness has taken over me. I know my school work needs to get done, but I don't even care about it until I'm desperate when everything is due and I don't know why. This was an excellent interview.

[@hodge2739]

How'd school go for ya? I hope it worked out 💪

[@ZakTheGuy]

@hodge2739 I actually re-enrolled as of this year and am going for psychology, after seeing how much therapy helped me after doing it for a year. Going pretty damn good so far!

[@littlewigglemonster7691]

​@@ZakTheGuygood job sir I'm proud of you ❤ Hope all is well

[@Manzana1C]

Same... To this day I still act or change things only if it feels that I can't take it anymore or that is 100% a necessary step. Otherwise, I don't even think about the things I should do

[@vjredline9242]

This is amazing and you are amazing. So many of these videos have been helpful in so many ways to me and at a time when I and probably everyones needs it the most. This is informative, inspiring and is honestly also a great way to learn productive communication. You are a great human being dr k

[@GilderonGaming]

This is quite possibly the best interview yet. I’m glad Zack was able to let his true intellect out and drop the Asmongold character for a little while. Hopefully he uses what Dr. K gave him to combat his struggles. Asmongold is a warrior in Azeroth; It’s time for Zack to face his life challenges as a warrior as well.

[@AshidoAsh]

His second channel ZackRawrr is him talking about life/games/channel without the persona.

[@tuksc]

He's actually incredibly intelligent as a person himself. He speaks clearly, makes sense, and is relatable.

[@jarofpickles4057]

He does this frequently on his personal channel. Check it out if you like hearing him out of his stream persona.

[@seashore0015]

i hate the fact that less people know of his youtube channel that is literally himself.

[@AndresGarcia-qk3sj]

I mean the lilypichu interview after the breakup was great too,you can see the dark side of their life which they never show

[@mathatter9158]

Asmongold has slowly, without me understanding why, become my favorite streamer. I don’t even play WoW.

[@TheTwestone]

its weird right? And it seems to happen to so many people, cause theres always comments going "i always took him for this supernerd in his boycave, but apparently i was so wrong". Hes definately a super fascinating character, and im still torn if i feel like its a good or bad thing he doesnt try to change his "presentation" so that it more fits his personality and stuff... Like you would think hes a 4 viewer channel with crappy cam and the backdrop of a lazy 12 year old... yet prolly has the money to build himself a streamer mansion. I dont know man...

[@Thatdoesntcostmoney]

camokazee agreed. Part of it is his laziness and part of it his how humble he is. He doesn’t flex on people with money or fame really. He lives Roth him mom when he could have a huge ass house and a decked out streamer room.

[@amanitamuscaria5284]

He is real as personality, logical, reasonable, honest those things draw me to him:-)

[@chiangsean9554]

imo Zack would be a better streamer. Asmongold on the other hand, the persona he puts on in order to appeal to those pepega normie viewers is a bit too much and obnoxious sometimes.

[@paulashinn]

Same here! Been watching a lot of his stuff lately! But this talk is specially gold!

[@dosplunder]

The way he describes his fear of dying is identical to mine and I don't know if I've heard someone else explain it the same as he has and it is so relatable. My existential dread holds my happiness back because it is always just below the surface of my mind and I can lay and bed and really panick. Sometimes I go through periods of time that I'm better at controlling it but other times I just can't. Thank you for sharing your fear so openly. It helps knowing I'm not alone in this fear.

[@ofrenic]

I find I've way more existential dread since I was about 16. Not sure if it was when I became atheist or just your critical thinking is developed/developing by then.

[@notsoluna3356]

so far I'm loving this conversation.. the way both take in new information is so respectful and intrigued

[@thankyoukanyeverycool2662]

Mrs. K: "Can you quiet down? You're really loud" Dr. K, 5 minutes later: "LEEEROOOOY GEEENKIINS"

[@ninjawarrior4217]

CX

[@PaladinJenkis]

I really like Dr. K

[@Tecolote41]

J, not G

[@TheDragonshadow1231]

Which minutes video is that?

[@Laxhax123]

@@TheDragonshadow1231 around 49:00

[@ant1607]

"there's a lot of gate-keeping on who is allowed to suffer" Dr. K such a good statement

[@beirch]

I think the word you're looking for is "allowed"

[@arudenko87]

could you please rephrase that quote? I'm struggling to understand english sometimes, thanks

[@fukkyouthatswhy]

@@arudenko87 gate keeping is like limiting acces to something, like a bouncer outside the bar who decides who gets in and who doesnt who is allowed to suffer and who isnt is the the type of gate keeping done by life bouncer idk if that helps

[@arudenko87]

@@fukkyouthatswhy it does, thanks a lot

[@kirbylore4883]

@@fukkyouthatswhy I think Dr.K is saying that people who have a overall good life like most popular streamers like Asmongold isn't being allowed to suffer because he plays video games and makes money while other people have it worse. I think it's bullshit but it happens

[@podpoe]

i also had a tremendous fear of losing memories when i was youngerm then i spent a month documenting as many memories as i could and i realized it was way too time consuming, and was preventing me from being in the present. i am now ok with forgetting things and im trying to live in the present

[@dev2379]

I relate with almost all of this conversation , I feel I am going thru the same things. This video def opened my mind a bit. Thank you

[@thrallski]

Who else is watching this while distracting themselves from something they should be doing?

[@harrisonthompson]

I didnt know there was anything i should be doing. if i have no goals, then should i be doing anything?

[@renzuki5830]

@@harrisonthompson How about finding goals ?

[@Roptica]

Every person alive.

[@Nadaters]

I should be doing a quiz, but I have tomorrow to do it :)

[@harrisonthompson]

@@renzuki5830 hmm... should i? are goals necessary? what if i don't value anything?

[@deuxfecctiol197]

"I am fine portraying myself as a degenerate, but I do draw the line at missing teeth. " - Zach

[@jacobc1559]

Simply amazing! I love the thought process and communication and clarity.

[@seancsnm]

I feel this guy in some ways. I have my life figured out in some ways but the existential crisis is always there. The desire to serve and find purpose while at the same time feeling astonishingly lazy is also there.

[@GravyIzSicK]

I could listen to these two talk forever

[@stupidsem9055]

Dr.K:"im gonna ree.." Asmon:*start smiling*

[@LikeTheGoodStyle]

Pure gold moment

[@TimoKanal]

Timestamp?

[@oiuye7448]

@@TimoKanal 59:24

[@guestguest9603]

Hi Dr K, first time watching your content. Even though I'm not a gamer, I have struggled with laziness, and I was able to personally relate to a lot of what was talked about in this session. I'm wondering if you can share some resources (e.g. papers or books or online articles) that talk more about the connection between laziness and the other feelings. As a scientist, I am interested in exploring the literature on this. Thanks in advance!

[@michaelkim9415]

I feel like Dr.K and Asmongold have the potential to come together to make the most impressive podcasts for the gaming community. Both of their intellects really shine through in this interview and it was both a pleasure and an enlightening listening experience!

[@timxiix3864]

Thatd be awesome!

[@frz5415]

"For The Content" -utuba

[@somecumbucket4768]

I love that not only do you learn about your favorite streamers' mind and mentality. You also learn a lot about yourself and acknowledge your weaknesses and the way your own mind works separately from your personal thoughts.

[@darkmoon2744]

I learned that I could be motivated in different ways. Here

[@psd90]

Can you elaborate how it works separately? I feel as though that separation cannot progress you towards a moment of enlightenment as it requires every part of you to be in that moment. Am I wrong?

[@Jonsoner]

@@psd90 The way I see it, there is the way you think, and the way you think you think. The more in tune you are with the reality of your way of thinking (let's use the video terminology, the roots of the problems) the more you can consciously be aware of the way you function. The more aware you are in the way you function allows you to take actions on the branches or even the roots and work towards being the desired you. For example, I feel really in tune with Asmon with the way that laziness gives way to efficiency and a lack of future thinking. So, I am PERFECTLY happy just eating pasta and red sauce everyday for the rest of my life. I don't really have this need that people have to eat healthy or just good food when I can be "lazy", eat whatever and not spend an hour of my day cooking/eating and play vidyas or read or whatever. So, being aware of this (and due to a roommate that believes that living like this is a travesty) I had a "moment of enlightenment", watched a bunch of youtube cooking videos like Internet Shaquile, Babish, and random shit and now I try to make simple but tasty meals. I get a sense of satisfaction of making something good, of having my roommate try something of mine, getting feedback, sharing a meal, inviting people to eat, etc. This has given me constant positive feelings and improved my life. Now I'm working on another branch which is making healthier food, to eventually make some changes in the root problem of my life which would be laziness and procrastination as conformism. In short, you can't force yourself to a moment of enlightenment. But you can alter a little tiny bit the way you think, to foster their occurrence more. AND then making sure you don't use them as an excuse for reverting back those changes (I'm cooking better know, today I just wanna eat whatever, and the next day as well, and the next next next) All of this takes conscious effort, and that's why I like the meditation technique Dr. K gave Asmon. To stop once in a while and reevaluate. This is the end of my TED talk, have a nice day. I'mma make some vegetarian burritos.

[@somecumbucket4768]

@@Jonsoner ah lol. well I must say that the speech was fascinating and a look into what I said or a..interpretation might I say, which is kinda accurate of my belief in how the mind works. but what I meant is that that you wouldn't necessarily get frightened by a lion for example if you think that you're not and you believe it to be true. but the mind thinks otherwise once you experience being in front of a lion so... in a sense you can make yourself look delusional by thinking over your personal thoughts when in reality the mind functions on it's own taking what it knows from your experiences with certain things deciding what your natural thoughts will be. A homophobic person doesn't necessarily hate gay men because he thinks it is weird, sometimes his mindset is naturally that way. So you could sit in your room thinking that you know yourself well but then when you're watching a dr. K video with another streamer talking about mental issues you might relate to or mental issues in general you get a stronger connection with your automatically thinking and organizing mind because you start changing they way you think personally and seeing what you thought was non existent inside you. sorry if I used a lot of words over and over again, my vocabulary isn't of the finest.

[@jaysol1128]

This has to be one of the most productive videos I have seen 2021. Thank you so much for you knowledge.

[@Mal3xander]

Thanks to both of you, I'm in a similar situation as Sack, I needed this.

[@naoltitude9516]

This was one of the best Dr. K interviews for me.

[@xzygy]

"You know you're doing it, and yet you keep doing it." *glances over at assignment due in 2 days* *continues watching stream*

[@danegreen629]

Did you get the essay done

[@xzygy]

@@danegreen629 I did!

[@firewall38]

@@xzygy We are proud!!!!

[@ILoveGrilledCheese]

This interview highlights exactly what makes Asmon so likeable. He's an amalgamation of all of us.

[@freddieoblivion6122]

Listening to streams like this is therapeutic in and of itself. Great work, guys. I'm hooked on this channel - I can listen to this stuff all day long. I'd bet my last 2 quarters that this man's story is ubiquitous here in the US. It feels like there is a resentment for those who are content / can contend with the banality of life also, that's tough too.

[@VassTheKeeper]

59:22 Dr.K "I'm gonna reeeeee...I'm gonna reeeeeee...I'm gonna reeeeeeee." Asmongold: *smiles*

[@CustardCream33]

I fucking died when this happened, had to come looking for it in the comments to make sure I wasn't the only one hahaha

[@J4smine.]

Lol

[@TropicalBrick]

Man i remember crying laughing when that happened. Great time stamp hahaha

[@OmniValor]

I just imagined red pepe's in his chat when he was saying this lol

[@Wolta]

I love Asmon. When his chat isn't feeding into like this internet character, he's genuinely a well spoken, well thought guy. Physical laziness, so spends more time on opinionated and well rounded thoughts.

[@user-kl1ds9vb4j]

If you would like to see more of this side he has a dedicated yt channel for "Zack" ... cant really remember the exact name though! I totally switched from streams to watching more of this side, i really like it! :)

[@wolfid2456]

@@user-kl1ds9vb4j ZackRawrr

[@sammurphy3343]

Fantastic and insightful conversation. TY both

[@alkemisten_3618]

One of the most beautiful talks that I’ve heard. Both of you were like a fractals of myself talking to myself through you. Had goosebumps many times❤

[@cartmansnipples]

This man loves his mom so much it honestly brings a tear to my eye

[@danielwho4859]

zack is too intelligent for his own good, it's actually fairly amazing to watch dr k do his work and reach the end game within 20~ minutes compared to most people lacking the ability to understand basic components of life, this episode is AMAZING.

[@mafia5000333]

Ive got a large difference between performal and verbal iq, verbal being higher. This results in the thoughts you have being too complex to be able to figure them out as quickly as you would if your performal iq would be the same. Coincidentally enough, i have pretty much the same day to day and long term struggles he's having. Even the dynamic between him and his friends.

[@tommyjongen]

Amazing stream/video, probably the best thing I've watched in years. In Dutch we have a different word for existential and emotional happiness, 'gelukkig' and 'blij' respectively. Wish there were words for that in English because they are really different, as proven in this stream.

[@masonbhunter]

Hey Dr. K, incredibly valuable information you're sharing here, thank you for what you do.I feel like I got a much needed therapy session for free. This whole conversation truly resonated with me.

[@LixyFox]

That was the most relatable conversation yet, I've never heard things I thought of and struggled with exactly word for word from someone else, the way Asmon talked about death and laziness really clicked with me even though my circumstance is different. That might've been the most helpful talk because of that for me personally, thank you Dr K and everyone involved in making it possible.

[@Michael-dh2sw]

Had the exact same feeling. I think this is a podcast I'm gonna have to watch a couple times.

[@timgroen2611]

"I guess i have experience with dying because before 1990 i didn't exist" damn this one blew my mind, never thought of it like that

[@isaiahdawkins5090]

How do you experience something in which you didn't exist to experience?

[@whywhy8324]

@@isaiahdawkins5090 That's the bit, Isaiah. Dying is an experience we'll all have but death, actually *being dead*, isn't a 'thing' and therefore can't be experienced. It's like how one can experience falling asleep and dreaming, but you can't experience being asleep. The unexperience of being unborn is, effectively, the exact same as being dead. Unless you believe in an afterlife then all bets are off, I guess.

[@zagranzon2464]

I do not want to impose religious beliefs upon others but in Islam it is mentioned in holy quran that people were dead then got revived then die then again get revived for the judgement day. I have no idea if the same info is shared in christianity or judaism.

[@berno8535]

@@zagranzon2464 As someone who may be considered Christian. The way I have always understood the bible's interpretation is that we are born, we die and our souls are kept at rest or in purgatory until judgement day, then we are also resurrected (or at least no longer in limbo).

[@IIpbIGyH]

But Tim, i think is completly unlogical, cuz you can't be dead if yoy don't exist, i mean Death as itself, in someway, a prove, guarantee of your existing, even you lived like 1 second, and then died, so i think its unlogical to say that you (in theory) was experience dead , because of non-existing.

[@Bondokill]

Thank you for doing this Zack. Learned a bit about myself through your honesty.

[@elannal6281]

Such an inspiring talk. I'm forever grateful for everyone that makes it possible.

[@LordTyranos]

Finally giving non asmon viewers a show of who Asmongold really is, Zack. Love this guy forever.

[@rustyshackleford1875]

Zack actually comes across as one of the nicest most selfless guys in the gaming community. Top dude!

[@stefanroche3052]

I absolutely love Dr. K saying “laziness is not a thing.” I think laziness and being lazy is a good label to motivate and maybe necessarily shame into action, but so many lazy people are fearful or just intelligent. There’s a lot of work to do in the world at any given moment. If you get everything done perfectly without any shortcuts, you’re a damn genius. I think either you’re a genius, without any unprocessed trauma, or some kind of robot program. Procrastinating is debilitating fear and lack of self respect, it’s some way of cutting your wings to prevent what potentially could be some beautiful, capable flight.

[@thegauntlet90]

This was incredible, thank you both

[@Yochoc]

As soon as he went with Zach instead of Asmongold I knew this was going to be good

[@TKJoyRide]

Dr. K doing AoE healing

[@kindred5328]

Underrated

[@seashore0015]

oooookaaaaaaaaay duuuuudeeeeeee

[@kindred5328]

@@seashore0015 fite me

[@cobi617]

@@seashore0015 dud

[@Snakesrcool2003account]

he just soraka r'd

[@booleah6357]

This conversation was amazing imo. I wish more philosophical discussions were like it.

[@miikl811]

1:54:16 Idk why but at the moment you're both closing your eyes I felt some inner peace that revealed me why I can't get shit done. Thank you very much for this video, I tried to answer all the questions before asmon while pausing the video and I did my own drawing about + and - around my own lazyness. That really gives me as you said "the road map" and there's no words to thank you enough, you helped me to save myself, I'll never forget about the two of you

[@TheLemonsDidIt]

Me: "This is going to cure my laziness?" Me: "Saves to watch later" *Goes back to sleep... at 2pm*

[@Dotalol123]

As a lazy guy who was pushed by parents to see bunch of psychologist im afraid that only you can cure it, you can talk to a lot of people that will tell you bunch of stuff but nobody can give you that "willful moment" that will push you to start doing stuff, only you can do that and even if you find it, they tend to go away then come again, then you feel shameful because you lost it and you are back to being useless, then you regret for wasting bunch of time again, then you start over, because they come in waves. TLDR: its a hell of a fight, good luck! :)

[@shaipey]

@@Dotalol123 I don't think it's lazy, you are comfortable. I get that from time to time, and the solution is to have routines and goals.

[@TheGuy3-D]

If you drive, listen to Jocko Willink's KZbin snippets while you drive. They make me want to get off my ass, and I'm been chipping away at his book Extreme Ownership and I feel like I'm improving.

[@fi1689]

​@@shaipey ^ I feel this, like i should just burn everything and start from scratch in a box under the bridge to get out of the cycle

[@rob879]

"I'm fine with portraying myself a degenerate. Where I draw the line is missing teeth." LMFAO

[@Panda-dw1he]

He has a plate. He is nissing like four if his top front teeth

[@Arizona9001]

Joseph S. Molar gang

[@Synky]

omfg that's actually hilarious though, and actually hits home hard

[@4_times_college_dropout_tr24]

@Joseph S. in my experience you get used to it. The first couple of weeks though are uncomfortable as fuck.

[@petnaby]

@Joseph S. Got all my wisdom teeth pulled and my life has never been the same

[@Kamakazy0789]

This video came to my feed today. I was so hoping it was new!

[@michaeljburt]

What an absolutely fascinating conversation. Thanks again Dr. K for doing this.

[@defami8340]

All my moments of enlightment are at 2am while procrastinating and watching some youtube just before sleep. Sadly next morning its all gone.

[@Kyrmana]

2am is a special time

[@goji5887]

@@Kyrmana "just go home at 2 am"

[@Whooooooops]

Way too true man

[@vapeology4348]

Write down onto a note

[@mreese8764]

Use a bottle notebook or Google doc and write it down and come back to it later

[@honordevs]

Asmond: "I could probably do this for... a few more minutes" *2 hours later*

[@animegamer3782]

he meant a few more minutes on that topic.

[@jarleskogly8388]

Home come people call him Asmond now-a-days? I've been following him for 3 years, and don't really know how this came to be.

[@animegamer3782]

@@jarleskogly8388 I think he once said that it was just to shorten it a bit, but i would just call him asmon for short

[@pxtii0]

​@@jarleskogly8388 ​He doesn't like being called Asmond so some people do it troll and some people just picked it up from the trolls thinking it was a legit thing

[@ehodovic]

Jarle Skogly Probs McConnell

[@PixelatedCatMan]

I’ve listened to this multiple times and the subtle shift in tone once death is first mentioned is always wild to me

[@TheMrQuino]

A week ago I didn't who was Reckful and somehow I get interest about him and videos after video he lead me to Dr K. Those conversations resonate a lot to me and I'm grateful I found it. Very interesting. Thanks for sharing guys !

[@draganescuconstantin2380]

its actually scary how much I can relate to some of the points jesus

[@nol7828]

@Jack Francis damn bro you need dr k

[@Turtle828]

It’s kinda funny when you think about the fact that we’re all human and we all go through similar struggles. We’re all unique individuals, but we have similar and equally challenging obstacles.

[@smiIingman]

Damnit Jesus help us!

[@wefdrft]

Turtle, people overestimate how unique they are

[@quickstepz9250]

Streams will turn you into this downy

[@reeqonmedia]

lol'd at 35:48 when the sun came out on asmongold and it totally looks like he has one of those moments of enlightenment

[@kurtcobain5363]

I don't think it was the sun :P I think it was Asmon who kinda messed with the computer effects and turned the brightness up or something. Pure gold hahaha Love how can you have an interesting and profound conversation with some laughter mixed up.

[@4_times_college_dropout_tr24]

@@kurtcobain5363 'pure gold'

[@5000IU]

haha saw that too

[@supremehare9893]

Nice lol

[@tozawaa]

Tought the same

[@HARSH-zl5qy]

Thank you so much !!! I needed this.

[@gaithouri]

super nice conversation.. thank you guys

[@rainlakuma6443]

You can really tell how intelligent Asmon is by his ability to admit when he doesn’t know something. He doesn’t need to try and bullshit you into thinking he has all the answers or he’s intelligent, he’s always open to learning more.

[@andrewhandelsman834]

Opposite of religious people

[@nickg1863]

@@andrewhandelsman834 thats a broad brush stroke you are painting religious people with

[@nickg1863]

@@adjbea4829 It is really quite funny that you say that because you can apply that same logic to other groups but then you would immediately be called the worst things under the sun. Grow up and realize that just like most groups you only really hear the vocal minority so painting vast amounts of people with generalizing strokes is intellectually lazy because its that same mentality that allows peoples to use those "frequently exhibited behaviours" to be racist.

[@rainlakuma6443]

Adj Bea Arriving at that conclusion is quite lazy and an overly simplified generalization. There are religious people who are close minded but there are close minded non-theists as well who are the inversed equivalent of their theist counterparts. You can’t judge an entire religion or group of people based on the radicals within said group. That’s like saying “black people are more inherently violent and genetically predisposed to committing crime. It’s frequently exhibited so I can conclude that they are more dangerous”. It’s incredibly ignorant to arrive at such short sighted conclusions like this without considering the external factors that contextualize the causation of said behaviour. Poverty, Economic, Social and political environments, lack of education or proper leadership, lack of health resources and support are the reason people are violent, not the colour of their skin or their religious beliefs. People who have experienced trauma or mental illness are far more susceptible to manipulation tactics and becoming the victim of cults or other predatory groups of people. Religion can be used for good or nefarious means, it really just depends how these people were indoctrinated growing up. It’s important to understand the good that has come from religion and how it’s helped people find the hope and reason to persist through life. It’s also equally important to recognize the flaws, primitive nature and atrocities that have been committed in the name of it. Recognize that religion doesn’t inherently create bad people, bad people just tend to use religion as an easy shield to justify their immoral behaviour. More often than not, these radicals are the very antithesis of the actual teachings and ideology that hail from the religious doctrine they claim to believe and live their lives in the name of.

[@rainlakuma6443]

Nick G Exactly! I really dislike that my comment praising Asmon for being a deep thinker and being an overall great human being has devolved into people bashing religion. It’s incredibly sad that these people are completely oblivious to the reality that they are the very embodiment of the same principles that they judge and hate in others.

[@UglyStru]

Zack growing up poor really explains the whole "same shirt" thing.

[@maximilian2843]

Your interviews are inspiring. Thank you.

[@Shemp3]

This was an incredible experience, and it has helped to put my life into perspective.

[@JimboJamboYT]

Its disturbing how much I can relate to this, almost the same position minus the success...

[@Sarkkoth]

Same.

[@arrkyna]

Lmao

[@unclekak6996]

can relate

[@psd90]

Why does it disturb you?

[@nickkrause7606]

- success +teeth

[@nis5e]

59:24 "I'm gonna reeee" "I'm gonna reeeeee" "I'm gona reee"

[@guitarmaniac004]

If you reeee 3 times it summons the apparition of mccuck

[@goji5887]

same thing i was thinking lol, "is he... is he ree-ing?"

[@notbrad4873]

Your closing statement at the end of the video on laziness, shame and the action equation got my sub

[@majormom357]

This whole conversation has made me have a personal reflection about why I've been putting off so many things that could've made my current situation easier than it is

[@DominantBunion]

really wish there was a conversation dedicated to talking about attachment to life like they did here, the way asmon expressed his fear of death is just about my only really extreme fear and i’d like to hear more about it from someone else that isn’t me since it’s basically the only thing that i so strongly fear that it’s almost guaranteed to send me into panic, i’m not really able to think it through and put the fear aside on my own. hearing someone else talk about it at all is really valuable to me

[@K4inan]

We experience dismay only through our own doing. What we resist, will persist. For we give power to that which we focus on.

[@XtheInception1]

I'd look up philosophy about the value of life itself. I used to be scared of death (had to get a cancer test, got the results after two weeks that I don't have it) and during that time I read up upon the value of life and living and embracing the positive sides of life. Death is inevitable but making the best of your life and finding new appreciation for the good things your life has to offer makes you see life with different goggles.

[@kal2352]

You should check out Dr K's session with Jake and Bake. They talked about this too. In a way, all fear stems from the fear of death, it's the one definitive thing we all share.

[@sadwain5952]

same

[@weslleypeiter3505]

Hey, I'm a bit late since you posted your comment 2 weeks ago, but I really would like to recommend you to read about the philosopher Montaigne and his Esseys, in particularly the one named "That to Philosophize is to Learn to Die". It helped me a lot and the autor himself to deal and cope with this question. Cheers!

[@__-bk6mm]

I was hoping he was going to say: “What you’re saying is gold, Asmongold”

[@jagrokt]

Well, he isnt Asmonsilver.

[@allensullera1565]

Christian ASMONCOPPER

[@christofferrasmussen6533]

"What you're saying is gold Asmon!", better ;)

[@Skinnyjeboss]

Subscribe to Asmonrawr, your favorite streamer.

[@4_times_college_dropout_tr24]

I might have cringed so hard I'd lose all my teeth.

[@ersika6004]

Personal Notes 2:05:24 - Respect that what holds you in place. If you're going nowhere in life there's a damn good reason for it.

[@self-deprovement]

Hearing Asmongold's story just hits too close to home. I have a similar background, but I grew up in Germany and actually in the richer parts of Germany too, but me and my family were actually on the poor end compared to almost all of my classmates in school. Sometimes it was just soul crushing for me when I heard from my parents how other parents viewed them and talked behind their backs about them, when I couldn't take the school trip, or we financially struggled after paying for a school trip. And then hearing other parents say that my parents were just being irresponsible with money or downright stupid while I was there watching my parents giving their all to give me a better shot at life just made me angry af.

[@gollese]

Yeah, theres plenty of that kind, looking down on other families.. Hate that kind, they have no life and do such things.

[@yellowsnow2124]

@Ash Yes but it could also be true. So don't bother commenting if you think it's made up

[@gollese]

@Ash Bet YOU are made up. 🥴🙃

[@DeuPKay]

Hmmm.... but were they irresponsible with money tho?

[@ggs4869]

@@DeuPKay i m from germany aswell , and many people here are overly judgemental over your own wellbeing and wealth. its sort of crazy ,ppl looking down on each other and not happy for someone else but envy to an extreme point. its called "neidkultur" here and pretty toxic shit.