I ACCIDENTALLY LET THE SMOKE OUT

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@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom 2 жыл бұрын
I've seen other KZbinrs clearly put a 24V coil contactor in place of a higher voltage one and then jump-cut to the machine working (with a different contactor). I think it's good to show that you can make mistakes. I tend to leave mine in and laugh them off, so that others don't feel too bad about their mistakes.
@HVACRVIDEOS
@HVACRVIDEOS 2 жыл бұрын
I agree Clive I think it's important to acknowledge our mistakes so others can learn what not to do!
@dashcamandy2242
@dashcamandy2242 2 жыл бұрын
@@HVACRVIDEOS It's not IF you make a mistake, it's how you recover from the mistake. It shows that you are not infallible, and it also shows a mistake that could easily happen in a moment's inattention. I'm surprised the spider carcass had such high electrical resistance (impedance? It is AC after all...) Some years ago, I was swapping a full set of tires from a parts vehicle to my registered vehicle. Every time I jacked one of the vehicles up, it would slide off the jack. Several attempts were made before it finally dawned on me that I hadn't chocked the wheels - and I was jacking up the "drive wheel," so the freewheeling tires let the vehicle roll forward slightly until the jack slid out. I felt like the World's Biggest Idiot, but if there's one thing KZbin has taught me, I'm not quite the idiot I think I am. 😆
@DerMarkus1982
@DerMarkus1982 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, Clive! Nice to have you here! I absolutely agree with you on that point. It looked like the sparks&magic smoke came primarily from the solid-state relay (is it one?) right next to the contactor. Did you, HVACR, fry that as well? The 24 V coil has almost no resistance compared to a 240V one, so the short-circuit current might have fried the coil-switching relay - by the form factor, I assume it's a solid-state relay. Well, I'll continue watching (7:05). EDIT: It's a Timer Relay. I stand corrected. 😀
@nickwallette6201
@nickwallette6201 2 жыл бұрын
There are two kinds of people in the world: Those who have made mistakes, and those who've never done anything at all. :-D
@ThunderClawShocktrix
@ThunderClawShocktrix 2 жыл бұрын
my armchair engger goes "why would indigo change the working volatge of the coils"
@davepusey
@davepusey 2 жыл бұрын
If you pause the video in just the right spot, you can see the orange glow from inside the time delay module as it's letting the smoke out.
@n.gineer8102
@n.gineer8102 2 жыл бұрын
In the teaser it was clearly not the Contactor that smoked but 20/20 in hindsight.
@davepusey
@davepusey 2 жыл бұрын
@@n.gineer8102 Yeah that is what I spotted too, and why I went back and paused it to see what really happened.
@VideoArchiveGuy
@VideoArchiveGuy 2 жыл бұрын
If you miss the flames you can see the smoke comes out of the time delay, not the contactor.
@TheDealer6373
@TheDealer6373 2 жыл бұрын
Seeing the spider being responsible for all that reminds me of my pc earlier this year. My pc would turn on and then immediately shut off on protection. Checked the surge protector and had a colony of ants moving in. Motherboard cpu 8 pin no longer worked. Sometimes it really is a bug in the system.
@whatevernamegoeshere3644
@whatevernamegoeshere3644 2 жыл бұрын
That's where the term actually comes from lol. Valve computers were both warm, shiny and worked on 100-150 volts so bugs loved getting fried in them
@jfbeam
@jfbeam 2 жыл бұрын
Just FYI, fire ants _love_ electricity.
@leosthrivwithautism
@leosthrivwithautism 2 жыл бұрын
I hope that you gain more viewers by your honesty and showing that your human like anyone else. If you make a mistake it’s ok. Just fix it up. That’s it. And of course let the customer know too. They’ll appreciate it. (At least I think they would). I work in IT and I’ve been honest about my mistakes and what I’ve done to fix it and people ended up trusting me more. Not sure how customers are regarding mistakes in hvacr. Appreciate the video especially recovering from covid. Good stuff!
@davidmiller9485
@davidmiller9485 2 жыл бұрын
This is a major problem with everything. their seems to be this idea that you're not supposed to make mistakes. Once you stop making mistakes is when you stop learning. Making mistakes is ok. Not fixing that mistake is not. I really wish people would stop this line of thinking.
@leosthrivwithautism
@leosthrivwithautism 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidmiller9485 I truly agree! I make mistakes still till today. In my field of IT I have 9 certifications now. And a few more on the way. And guess what? I know I'm still going to mess up somewhere along the line. It's just being human. But that was very well said. And I couldn't agree more.
@wwefan61911
@wwefan61911 2 жыл бұрын
In hvac it’s better not to mention mistakes like those because you’ll get bad reactions from the customers.
@leosthrivwithautism
@leosthrivwithautism 2 жыл бұрын
@@wwefan61911 Ahh I see. Thanks for letting me know. I just learned something new!
@davidmiller9485
@davidmiller9485 2 жыл бұрын
@@wwefan61911 Does that not prove the point though? Once again people are so fixated on no/not making mistakes that they don't acknowledge that we all make them. I have had mistakes made by my mechanic (sigh, i'm a old race engine/transmission builder. However, after my spinal surgery i just can't do it any more) and i'm ok with it as long as they make it right. That's why i still go to that mechanic. He always fixes his mistakes. Those customers are part of the problem. I wonder how they would feel if i started bringing up mistakes they made? Granted i doubt it would make a difference because they don't see the hypocrisy. Never the less, it's a real problem that creates more problems.
@MrYuck9
@MrYuck9 2 жыл бұрын
I once made a mistake, I'm not the owner but just a employee. Told the owner what happen and he said a lot of employees would have covered it up. I offered to pay for the part I Installed incorrectly and he would not hear of it. I still work there 8 years later after that day.
@DillyDoesit
@DillyDoesit 2 жыл бұрын
Being a consistent employee will take you places
@thewhitefalcon8539
@thewhitefalcon8539 2 жыл бұрын
@@DillyDoesit Used to. Not any more. That's the same mentality as walk in and show the manager your resume. Outdated.
@RaithUK
@RaithUK 2 жыл бұрын
Dude credit to you for showing even the bad bits.. shows integrity. Keep it up man.
@ivoryjohnson4662
@ivoryjohnson4662 7 ай бұрын
You are a human being ; we appreciate your candor and honesty
@jj-zy6gc
@jj-zy6gc 2 жыл бұрын
It always surprises me just how many things run on magic smoke.
@em1osmurf
@em1osmurf 2 жыл бұрын
P.F.M.
@AsmodeusMictian
@AsmodeusMictian 2 жыл бұрын
Bro... I do network troubleshooting and repair for a living (and training for that matter.) I logged into a Wattbox at one point (think a glorified power strip with a web interface so you can manipulate the outlets remotely.) and accidentally hit the wrong button. Took out the main circuit and had to have one of our Tier 2 agents go back in, re-arrange things, and turn it back on for me. Talk about embarrassing! I tell that story in every training class I have though, because they need to understand that they happen and the important part of it is to RECOVER from the mistake and make things right. Awesome video, thank you for the amazing content. :)
@paulravitsky2898
@paulravitsky2898 2 жыл бұрын
Several years ago I turned on my central air for a preseason check and the compressor didn't turn on. Found a box elder bug had crawled in the compressor contactor contacts and died. Removed the corpse and all was well. Kudos for showing the magic smoke!
@life_behind_bars
@life_behind_bars 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I've done that. Grabbed the wrong contactor off the van and threw it in quick because I was in a hurry, and I smoked a $600 board on a Stoelting softserve machine. Customer got a new free relay board. Been doing this for 31 years and mistakes still happen and will until the day I retire. Live and learn. Great video my friend.
@russellhltn1396
@russellhltn1396 2 жыл бұрын
Which is why I've learned the saying "To go fast, go slow". When you try to speed up, mistakes are made that costs more time. It goes faster when you do everything right the first time.
@andrewgilbreath1331
@andrewgilbreath1331 2 жыл бұрын
I wired up a 120 furnace to 240 once. Smoked everything.
@nateg08
@nateg08 2 жыл бұрын
@@andrewgilbreath1331 it's funny you say that I just talked to a guy tonight that did just that very thing. He asked if i had a transformer he could have and I said sure what for. He explained he did just that and I told him he may not have anything left in the furnace to save.
@andreeriner811
@andreeriner811 2 жыл бұрын
Lol it’s nice to know I’m not the only one to grab the wrong contractor off the van. I usually do just the opposite though I grab a 240 volt instead of a 24 then in sitting there fir a minute trying to figure out why it won’t energize. Thanks great vidio.
@dkd1228
@dkd1228 2 жыл бұрын
This channel has been one of the best teaching tools for the trade that I've seen. Thank you.
@HVACRVIDEOS
@HVACRVIDEOS 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the nice words bud
@fazilapandor3641
@fazilapandor3641 2 жыл бұрын
@@HVACRVIDEOS .. Hi my smeg freezer is working but red light blinking..
@fazilapandor3641
@fazilapandor3641 2 жыл бұрын
@@HVACRVIDEOS it was happening few months back .. I off and on I was doing after that was gone normal.. now this week again same thing happening... what can I do
@maxsantana1
@maxsantana1 Жыл бұрын
That happened to me before when I replaced a WIF compressor. I thought it takes a 24 V coil contactor just like HVAC units. Powered unit on, same thing happened. It took 208 V coil. I enjoy watching your videos. It really helps me when I trouble shoot. Have a great day.
@StrengthCircusDD
@StrengthCircusDD 2 жыл бұрын
We all make mistakes when there are so many variables in our field. The fact that you share yours with us save so many from making that same one. At the end of the day it’s easy to over look something small that will teach you a big lesson!
@jamestoy426
@jamestoy426 2 жыл бұрын
when i was a brand new tech they threw me to the wolves. i did all the compressor’s for home warranty co.. i crossed the run and start wire fried the start winding. luckily my boss was to warranty it. a lesson very well learned. now i double check before i turn on the machine. at least yours wasn’t a compressor. nice mr. humble. awesome job
@jeeper426
@jeeper426 2 жыл бұрын
Gen George S Patton Jr said "Never judge a man by the fact he never falls, but how high he bounces back after the experience", (after he hits bottom) you are human, you are not infallible and you recovered from the mistake in a professional manor instead of just freaking out and going "well, i guess they need a whole new machine now" you took the time to repair the mistake and make it right, then you went the extra mile for the customer with the cleaning to make dam good and sure that machine was 100% good-to-go and that there were no other issues at hand, it happens to everyone brother, and you handled it efficiently and professionally, stay safe out there
@dillonbeene9965
@dillonbeene9965 Жыл бұрын
I love the 1,2,3 don’t blow up then it blows up lol 😂 happens to the best of us
@bluecollardownunder3616
@bluecollardownunder3616 10 ай бұрын
Everybody makes mistakes and from that mistake we grow cause this is how we learn. Thanks Chris for putting this up.
@todddunn5912
@todddunn5912 2 жыл бұрын
Love the channel!!! Beware, working on older quite cube, cleaned unit ,left plate not freezing, replaced TXV and hot gas valve on that side, worked great BUT! turned unit off to check for LP shut off, NOPE, found contactor welded shut, replaced contactor, all good right NOPE, pumped down again this time violet short cycle and comp. shake. guess what I found defective low pressure switch. perfect example of the way you train your guys, its not always the firs diagnosis and repair there could always be extra, PS after 23 yrs never installed the wrong coil voltage components, YEAH RIGHT LOL TY.
@gbuss814
@gbuss814 2 жыл бұрын
Showing your mistakes is a huge reason why your video are so good. Great video. Please don't ask what I have let the smoke out of. Lol
@PapasDino
@PapasDino 2 жыл бұрын
Magic Smoke is Magic Smoke regardless of scope! It's amazing to watch it even at the small scale of integrated circuit on the workbench when it lights up! Good on 'ya for sharing a mistake as it helps more than you think, thanks Chris...Happy Holidays!
@markpursell2917
@markpursell2917 2 жыл бұрын
I made the same mistake years ago when I was a junior mechanic and have occasionally made it since in the 40 years I have been doing hvacr. It's called a mistake, and as long as you learn from it, it is ok.i applaud you for leaving it in the video.
@donnielduncan1850
@donnielduncan1850 2 жыл бұрын
Finally i have proof to show that your not a robot😂..keep the content coming
@restaurantrepairs
@restaurantrepairs 2 жыл бұрын
Always great vids Chris. Thanks for letting us tag along and learn.
@bkm6175
@bkm6175 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for showing your mistakes. It proves that I am not the only one.
@colegreeson
@colegreeson Жыл бұрын
Your an refrigeration guy. No matter what anyone walking this earth says. You will make mistakes. Especially in resturaunt refrigeration, i done mcdonalds for 5 years and nothing will come close to the high level you challenge yourself everyday. I use to love always stopping by my jobs from time to time just because i enjoyed the facts of perfection in the craft. So many people that do residential hvac that change thermostats, capacitors, and fan motors day in and day out will never understand until there thrown to the wolves
@vincentmcclelland9179
@vincentmcclelland9179 2 жыл бұрын
I am more impressed you held back the language when it smoked, most of us would have jumped back and exclaimed a few choice words
@wtfux
@wtfux 2 жыл бұрын
You know the video will get spicy when a life insurance ad runs after saying you eliminated the black widow spider...
@Newberntrains
@Newberntrains 2 жыл бұрын
what ads lol i dont get ads with adblockers
@icanfixit7179
@icanfixit7179 2 жыл бұрын
💀💀💀
@lionelearlen9931
@lionelearlen9931 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for reminding us that even the best still make mistakes! That may be one of the most important lessons in the video!
@philltafolla
@philltafolla 2 жыл бұрын
If you don’t pull the dump valve to inspect it after cleaning the ice machine I can almost ensure you that you will have a callback since the dump valve retains all the calcium and debris causing it to remain open . Manitowocs , Ice O matics , and Scotsman’s are notorious for this 😁
@peewee3ie
@peewee3ie 2 жыл бұрын
As others said and I also bring up my mistake with the customer. You did remind me of one I did a few years back. I was changing a bulb/lamp in a table lamp for a good friend and I grabbed a bulb/lamp from car which I had some from home with me as they did say they think the table lamp has a fault. well not looking at the boxes that I took one was 12v which was for a old camper that I did work on a few years ago. I put in the table lamp and switched it on and there was such a bang I thought I had died. It was a 12v bulb/lamp on 240v. I did for one thing learned to check the box for the voltage of the bulb/lamp
@MikeAnnunziato
@MikeAnnunziato 2 жыл бұрын
I always dump the first couple batches of ice, hey we all make mistakes just depends on if you own up to it. Good work.
@HVAC-TECH-Les
@HVAC-TECH-Les 2 жыл бұрын
Done that....not with an ice machine an ac.....I've done it in reverse also, thought I had a DOA contactor....thanks for the videos
@w5cdt
@w5cdt 2 жыл бұрын
Here in the electronics business I have occasionally let the smoke out of tiny chips. :-)
@Slugbunny
@Slugbunny 2 жыл бұрын
The feared BZZZZT catches us all in the end. 🙏🏻 😂 Respect for showing it!
@K3Flyguy
@K3Flyguy 2 жыл бұрын
Well done! Very good to show a mistake and proper recovery! Your clients are lucky to have such an honest and knowledgeable tech working on their stuff! Thank you for sharing!
@Sin_Ligereep
@Sin_Ligereep 2 жыл бұрын
Huh, I was wondering what you meant by 'please don't blow up', so it was interesting to see what happens when it does 'blow up'. Also good on you showing your mistakes and letting people know that everyone makes mistakes and it's human.
@randomfastreader
@randomfastreader 2 жыл бұрын
I was kinda expecting him to put a clip of the nuclear test footage in the intro
@dj_sparkks
@dj_sparkks Жыл бұрын
I've seen a clip of a guy who had a compressor blow the terminals off in his face
@tonylaw196
@tonylaw196 2 жыл бұрын
It is a black widow spiders, it is painful if you get bite. Once time, I have same mistake with you, I insert the 24VAC relay wrongly into AHU Control board, the control circuit is 220VAC. The relay "pop" and jump out immediately.
@xZiiPlus
@xZiiPlus 2 жыл бұрын
A great video as always Kudos on leaving the mistake in and explaining it
@matth5309
@matth5309 2 жыл бұрын
Happens to all of us. At least nobody else there saw it happen. Reminds me of a time when I was working on a burner for an industrial oven. Had to take the combustion blower off to get inside to adjust the diffuser. It had moved which was preventing the pilot from lighting. I was distracted talking with one of the plant guys when I was putting it back together and ended up wiring two of the incoming legs to the motor together for a direct short…a 480v direct short lol. The motor starter exploded in a bright blue ball of arc flash when I started the oven. Two plant guys witnessed it and went scurrying away in panic. Next thing I know they are back with the plant operations supervisor and the safety supervisor. Not a fun day for me 🤦‍♂️
@paulb4496
@paulb4496 2 жыл бұрын
I was training an apprentice, showing him how to make sure secondary on transformer was correct. I accidentally moved the common wire instead of the 240-208 volt wire. It sounded like a 22 rifle shot. I blew the transformer and the Circuit board on that voyager gaspack. Oooops.
@arthouston7361
@arthouston7361 2 жыл бұрын
Chris, I serviced an old mani that was pre-indigo, and that used a 208 coil for the contactor. Just an FYI. Similarly....About a year ago, I picked up a contactor at the supply house that was 24 volt rated on the box, and I installed it for condenser fan control on a York predator. I discovered that the contactor in the box had a 120 volt coil. Doh!!!
@davidmiller9485
@davidmiller9485 2 жыл бұрын
Fun story (for me anyway) I grew up on a farm. The dairy barn wasn't used any more so it had black widow spiders. I played in that barn all the time and never got bit. Not once. Yes i played with the spiders, i was only 8. One of my favorite memories.
@coastalfog809
@coastalfog809 2 жыл бұрын
Umm still feeling the spider on me. Lol
@russlehman2070
@russlehman2070 2 жыл бұрын
Black widow spiders can be identified by the red hourglass shaped spot on their belly. And perhaps the surest way to get bitten by one is to flip it onto its back to see if it has that read spot.
@philipcreed3435
@philipcreed3435 2 жыл бұрын
We've all let the smoke out of em. Those 24v contactors, will get you everytime. You see the 2 on the box and think its a 208 contactor. I work for my dad, he wouldn''t pay attention sometimes and just grab a 24v thinking its a 208 contactor. Him not having his glasses on didn't help also.... I've had times I had to check behind Manitowoc parts on several occasions. Different voltage part than what the box said!
@richardstephens3327
@richardstephens3327 2 жыл бұрын
I have lost track of the times I have let the electronic smoke of surrender out. Computer power supplies, transformers, theater lights, sound systems. I have fried them all. Thankfully I have also figured out how to rebuild many. It's amazing how much charge a sandstorm has.
@MrLandslide84
@MrLandslide84 2 жыл бұрын
Lol I've heard that noise before. 277v into a 120v trans. I learned to always check after that.
@bryanharayda1975
@bryanharayda1975 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve definitely done that with the wrong coil voltage in contactors before lol. I’ve also been able to swap out coils, didn’t have a 208/240 V coil contactor but was able to remove coil from contactor with bad points and put it on a contactor that originally had a 24 V coil lol. Also, I really enjoy these videos, and appreciate that you do sometimes screw up too, and show it! Good job!
@WilliamPayneNZ
@WilliamPayneNZ 2 жыл бұрын
I also love how the original contactor has 208/240 in huge letters on the front. Got to love the humble moments that reach out and get you.
@jorgejanicas8289
@jorgejanicas8289 2 жыл бұрын
Enjoy your videos along with your honesty.
@hourakhshancooperative7723
@hourakhshancooperative7723 2 жыл бұрын
Great video.Thanks Chris.
@MikeB9771
@MikeB9771 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video, easy mistake to make, glad you showed it on film.
@a4000t
@a4000t 2 жыл бұрын
🎶Itsy bitsy spider crawled into the contactor points,the contractor closed and squashed the spiders guts out!🎶
@jasonstarr6419
@jasonstarr6419 2 жыл бұрын
There are a couple of learning moments here for your viewers. 1) Mistakes are a part of life. Learning requires that there be room for mistakes. It's from our mistakes that we learn best. 2) Owning our mistakes and not belittling ourselves (or others for their mistakes) gives us room and freedom to "try". While the word try can sometimes mean "willing to quit when it gets hard", in this context it does not. We try to do our best every day. 3) When you strive to "do it right", it's hard to do a less than full clean, or perfect repair, or the best you can do in every situation. My AC experience ends at either the remote thermostat or the one on the wall. So, I don't come here to learn about AC (even though I constantly do learn something). I come because I so greatly appreciate you as a person and a professional. Thank you.
@Georges3DPrinters
@Georges3DPrinters Жыл бұрын
Excellent video going through the mistake. Been there before.
@crazypete3759
@crazypete3759 2 жыл бұрын
A bad technician would have lied to the customer and charged for extra parts saying they were bad! Good for you, being honest with the customer and actually uploading a video of your mistakes to youtube!
@bilexperten
@bilexperten 2 жыл бұрын
Some days things joyous don't work out. Eat it up and move on. Good work.
@ZeroStatic
@ZeroStatic 2 жыл бұрын
Props for your honesty dude. You are a fantastic educator and part of that is showing that every one of us make mistakes now and then. The important thing is to learn from them.
@TemporalEngineering
@TemporalEngineering 2 жыл бұрын
6:02 I have been waiting all this time for the moment when it DOES blow up, since every time you say "Please don't blow up" it USUALLY doesn't blow up 😂
@StrengthCircusDD
@StrengthCircusDD 2 жыл бұрын
Haha I put a 208 contactor on an old beacon 1 system the other day and it wouldn’t start. I totally forgot they’re some of the only refrigeration condenser units that use a 24v coil contactor on a 3 phase compressor!
@AErefrigeration
@AErefrigeration 2 жыл бұрын
Good job on the full cleaning, sanitizing and de-scaling service.
@jddr.jkindle9708
@jddr.jkindle9708 2 жыл бұрын
I luv your honesty on coil voltage.
@brianmcdermott1718
@brianmcdermott1718 2 жыл бұрын
We all make mistakes. And we pay for them. Great video. Thanks Chris.
@nuc2726
@nuc2726 2 жыл бұрын
I never knew that control voltage could even be anything *other* than 24 volts. I never heard of control voltage for a contactor being 208 volts. I've only worked on residential, but this just tells me that commercial is a different beast entirely.
@raygale4198
@raygale4198 Жыл бұрын
In Australia 415 Volts is a very common coil voltage, some equipment may not have a neutral connection so there is only line to line voltage available unless a step down control transformer is fitted.
@rockercover
@rockercover 2 жыл бұрын
After you cleaned and reassembled machine, looked like new. Very impressive - (good).
@FireoftheGreeks
@FireoftheGreeks 2 жыл бұрын
Turns out she really was a Widow after all hahaha. Side note no spiders are poisonous, poison has to be ingested. They are actually venomous, venom is injected. Awesome channel man!
@seanmichael8202
@seanmichael8202 2 жыл бұрын
I’ll take that spiders can be venomous and aren’t technically considered poisonous… But it is false that poison can only be ingested. Poison can also be inhaled, absorbed, and injected.
@VitalYFZ
@VitalYFZ 2 жыл бұрын
I enjoy your videos. We all make mistakes, we win or we learn!
@muhammadibrar4112
@muhammadibrar4112 2 жыл бұрын
I like your honesty. But that happen sometimes. Well good job.
@LittleLadyLidbetter
@LittleLadyLidbetter 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for being real!
@ejonesss
@ejonesss Жыл бұрын
that is where the computer bug came from. when computers was vacuum tubes and relays a bug got in a relay contact. the polarities on a contactor is not important except for phase rotation so you could mount the contactor upside down and it not only should still work but the cover will not need to be turned around.
@46I37
@46I37 2 жыл бұрын
I had a 3 phase induction range that would do really weird things. I only found the issue after using an oscilloscope to find occasionally arcing on one phase. I pulled apart the breaker and found one of the springs had turned sideways! Was a factory manufacturing fault.
@bradgoodale3249
@bradgoodale3249 2 жыл бұрын
Only human Chris 🤣we all have bad days your honesty is gold mate.
@alex6matias
@alex6matias 2 жыл бұрын
I found a 120v coil contactor on an industrial vacuume that runs at 480v. Apparently the operators have been using the plug and disconnect as the on of switch for years and, never brought up the fact that no one ever used the very clear on if buttons on the side of it.
@thesilentonevictor
@thesilentonevictor 2 жыл бұрын
Great work Chris
@Shizzle37
@Shizzle37 Жыл бұрын
Wow a spider in the contactor? That can't be something you see often. I'm not in this trade but I love your videos.
@stevebollinger3463
@stevebollinger3463 2 жыл бұрын
I work with lower voltage electronics. But I know the moment I know something is wrong I yank power. So when you find out it’s single phasing I’m surprised you don’t turn off the switch immediately. And after seeing smoke come out I’m surprised you don’t turn it off immediately. I’ve saved myself further damage in the past and saved myself money and trouble. Perhaps for you it doesn’t matter since it wrecks everything in an instant due to the higher power levels involved.
@efficientheatingcooling
@efficientheatingcooling Жыл бұрын
I've done it both ways. I've put a 24v coil on a 120/208 control circuit resulting is the same blown contactor coil. I've also accidentally put a 120v/208v contactor on a 24v line and was scratching my head at first when the contactor wouldn't pull in. At least in that scenario there was no smoke let out.
@paulhickey4485
@paulhickey4485 2 жыл бұрын
Good for you on your honesty. You could have charged the customer for the time delay and they wouldn't know the difference. I'm sure many would have.
@richardpowell181
@richardpowell181 2 жыл бұрын
Anyone who says they never made a mistake is lying. It's how you recover from it, that's what makes a good engineer in my opinion.
@andrewveres3965
@andrewveres3965 2 жыл бұрын
That’s happened to everyone in this field at least once honest enough to see you messed up😂
@fredflintstone8048
@fredflintstone8048 2 жыл бұрын
SSRs, time delay or otherwise are always a great addition to control circuits. I did a lot of retrofits with them. They're great for driving larger mechanical contactors (relays). What makes them so great is that they switch state when crossing zero which is better for the life of equipment as well as other relays because they energized when the voltage crosses zero instead of slamming on at random times in the cycle.
@FrozenHaxor
@FrozenHaxor Жыл бұрын
That makes literally no sense, from the moment you energize a mechanical relay, the time that passes to the contactor becoming closed is enough to be over one cycle already (plus since it's a simple mechanical device with not-so-great tolerances, the time varies each operation). For instance, according to Schneider Electric, a typical Tesys D contactor will close in 12 to 26 milliseconds. In 50 Hertz mains one cycle is 20 milliseconds, in 60 Hertz it's ~16.6 milliseconds. There is absolutely no possibility of what you're saying being true, unless the contactor is replaced with a Solid State Relay, which typically fully conducts in under 100 nanoseconds.
@fredflintstone8048
@fredflintstone8048 Жыл бұрын
@@FrozenHaxor Yes, sorry. I miscommented. What I was doing was replacing contactors with SSR sequipped with high current Triacs suitable to the loads in order to take advantage of bringing on loads at zero crossing. As you say there would be latency of perhaps several cycles between applying voltage to a contactor coil and the contacts landing and that time period would not be stable even if you could rig up some kind of duty cycle control and adjusting the delay until the mechanical contactor would close on or close to zero.
@FrozenHaxor
@FrozenHaxor Жыл бұрын
@@fredflintstone8048 Gotcha, that makes total sense now 👍
@sherwinalvarez7365
@sherwinalvarez7365 2 жыл бұрын
Im in NYC. I remember in school they taught us about a cockroach in the contactor. I guess this is a California version. I use Vaseline on those gaskets. Its food grade and cheap.
@patrickdenton5118
@patrickdenton5118 7 ай бұрын
The fact that you left the mistake in the video and covered that mistake says alot.
@grudd61
@grudd61 2 жыл бұрын
Another great video. We are all human after all.
@oscalerup1129
@oscalerup1129 2 жыл бұрын
Been there done that 😂. Had a Ruud package unit that the blower motor went out (probably bad contactor single phased it) and I just got 3 new 24V coil 3 pole contractors to just take care of everything, blower and compressors. Welp I had a smoke show too. Naturally my van was getting a oil change and was with a install guy with zero parts. One more trip to the supply house and all was good. I don’t know why but I looked all over the old blower contactor and never saw a coil voltage
@petersmart1999
@petersmart1999 2 жыл бұрын
Love spiders,I want a turantula but my wife says no! They are pretty cool to watch when building a web! Side note,evidently spiders love led lighting,since I switched they are everywhere
@henrykroesen4360
@henrykroesen4360 2 жыл бұрын
It's real hard to put factory smoke back in, your usually up the creek and yes no paddle
@Straycurrent
@Straycurrent 2 жыл бұрын
So the 8-legged critter left the unit one leg short on power. This is a really leggy episode.
@johnwalker890
@johnwalker890 2 жыл бұрын
Good job Chris, it happens, Black widows make me nervous too.
@THECHOSENONE-bk7xg
@THECHOSENONE-bk7xg 2 жыл бұрын
i noticed after you showed the 120 on end leg @4:13, contactor has a white mark on side indicating heat or blow out. Great find
@IBenZik
@IBenZik 2 жыл бұрын
@3:06, Spider, web, contactor in, humm! Reminds me of a 240 circuit breaker for my A/C 120v on one side, 3v on the other. Replaced the breaker and tore the old one apart, same problem. I hate spiders!
@TheOrca
@TheOrca 3 ай бұрын
Be grateful that it wasn’t an actual explosion, but hey at the end of the day we live and learn from our mistakes!
@zierlyn
@zierlyn 2 жыл бұрын
You only need to make the coil voltage mistake once to learn the lesson forever. I hope others watching this video learn the lesson just from watching. I learned my lesson on a brand new $300 Eaton Cutler-Hammer motor starter.
@matthewbestdfghy
@matthewbestdfghy Жыл бұрын
Was it a 24vDC or 24vAC. 24vdc is the most common control voltage used on integrated manufacturing equipment.
@HVACRVIDEOS
@HVACRVIDEOS Жыл бұрын
24 volts ac
@specter6633
@specter6633 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent vid as usual.
@JackMott
@JackMott 2 жыл бұрын
Sir, kindly keep the smoke in. Thank you.
@StrengthCircusDD
@StrengthCircusDD 2 жыл бұрын
This is cool. I have never seen a quite cuber system in the field. We sell a lot of Manitowoc and Koolaire equipment.
@TheArchaos
@TheArchaos 2 жыл бұрын
We all make mistakes, its how we react to those mistakes that defines us.
@dalemarr70
@dalemarr70 2 жыл бұрын
Don't those contactors have interchangeable voltage coils? I used to work with some, where you could just get a new coil & slap it in there.
@kpmac2971
@kpmac2971 2 жыл бұрын
It seems to me that given the normal failure of contactors there should be some sort of protection to prevent single phasing of the compressor.
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