I almost went crazy learning 3 DAWs to make a detailed comparison. Ableton vs. Pro Tools vs. Cubase

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Lucas Messore

Lucas Messore

Күн бұрын

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@ErixSamson
@ErixSamson 10 ай бұрын
Cubase for me, I'm so used to it, and it is so powerful, there is nothing you can't do in Cubase. And the community is very strong and active, you're not alone.
@DareonSky
@DareonSky 5 ай бұрын
There is what you can't do with Cubase. It has no negative delay on expression maps.
@lX-NDR
@lX-NDR 4 ай бұрын
Cubase community is mostly old heads😅
@sativares
@sativares 2 ай бұрын
@@DareonSky You can solve it by using the 'MIDI Modifier' that you find in 'MIDI Inserts'. For example, if you want your strings to play a bit earlier, you can use this tool to set a negative delay.
@osmancolak
@osmancolak Ай бұрын
@@lX-NDRAnd if you check FL and Ableton forums for feature requests, they all want what Cubase had for years 😅
@StudyingVStudying
@StudyingVStudying Ай бұрын
I tried cubase before, and and now with the new Drum machine that works exactly like ableton maybe better (except it doesn’t have the new ableton sample swap button)I really would like to try cubase again or maybe switch, but the session view on ableton is what makes me stay, that workflow for creating new ideas is so powerful, I wish every daw created a session view for playing with the song structure and a clip launcher like bitwig and other daws like Logic, Studio One 7 started using now. I already used other daws like FL, logic sometimes, reaper, Studio One, bitwig, cubase a long time ago, and for me the conclusion all of them was good, you can create in any of them but after discovering the power of the playability of the Ableton Session View/ clip launcher and how much creative you can get in that and how easily you can change the song structure and see other versions of your song, I just ended up staying with Ableton. But Ableton lacks ARA support but Ableton lacks, and is lacking the horizontal clip laucher( bitwig’s idea for clip launcher, which you can see side by side with the timeline) that daws like Logic and now Studio One 7 adopted. And now Im between wait for ableton adopts ARA support, or wait for cubase adopt session view and horizontal clip laucher, or wait studio one gets a drum machine like cubase did with this new version, or wait for Bitwig have midi capture(retrospective recording) better mixer output levels ( its too fast and you can’t see exactly where it’s peaking), drum machine sample swap like in ableton 12.1 and the ability to customize the daw colors, to a dark version or any other color. Bitwig is a mix of logic/cubase and ableton. If bitwig make these changes, I wouldn’t go to cubase instead would move to bitwig 🙏
@BenCaesar
@BenCaesar 5 ай бұрын
I went from Ableton to Cubase, Ableton is good for quick chops but Cubase is just unmatched with the depths it can go to for vocal editing and recording especially. Very fair review 👌🏾
@patsalty
@patsalty 4 ай бұрын
Thinking of doing this as well...Do you think the cheaper version (elements) is worth it?
@TheClicheGaming
@TheClicheGaming 9 ай бұрын
thanks, this was very helpful. i'm currently using Ableton but as a band guy Cubase's features are looking good!
@LucasMessore
@LucasMessore 9 ай бұрын
They do but it's buggy and clunky. I have to make an official decision if finishing a track is actually faster or more fun than ableton.
@BeatsbyVanity
@BeatsbyVanity 9 ай бұрын
Great video! I find myself going back and forward between Ableton and Cubase. One factor I think is important to consider is the direct the company is taking the software in, as you want to future proof yourself going forward. Cubase's custom keyboard shortcuts is a plus, as it's the greatest workflow enhancer I've found.
@LucasMessore
@LucasMessore 9 ай бұрын
Excited to try live 12, but yeah i feel you. If Cubase was snappier and less glitchy buggy like ableton, and got a visual makeover it would be awesome.
@johnnydswing
@johnnydswing Ай бұрын
In pro tools now you can customize shortcuts as well
@EncounterCaneCorso
@EncounterCaneCorso 6 ай бұрын
Great job and completely agree. I’ve extensively used all three as well as many of the other top DAW’s. The Cubase learning curve can be quite daunting, but if you want to exclusively use one DAW it’s the way to go. Especially if your primary focus is composition, producing, editing & mixing. I found the best way to commit to learning Cubase was to delete all of my other DAW’s from my computer..best decision I made 😎
@mikeillgaming4224
@mikeillgaming4224 2 ай бұрын
I've spent at least two years with protools / ableton. I tried cubase 5 in 2015 and never looked back ... he's 100% correct about it being for people that want customization I have everything mapped out and custom commands. If you want yo get away form using your mouse and keyboard then Cubase is for you
@jibonanondo7680
@jibonanondo7680 3 ай бұрын
Cubase since 2010. Serving a small musician community. Yes it has a learning curve but once you get used to it you may not need anything else. One thing I always say, if you are a live performer, Abelton is your best friend.
@coldskoolbeatz
@coldskoolbeatz 6 ай бұрын
If you already own a DAW you can get Cubase PRO version for around $250. You just need to show proof of purchase for the DAW that you already own.
@vodkastudios4170
@vodkastudios4170 7 ай бұрын
Basically Ableton allows me to get my ideas into the DAW the quickest, and that is by far the most important thing for me. Sometimes inspiration is fleeting.
@Byron101_
@Byron101_ 7 ай бұрын
Cubase = Pro Tools + Ableton former PT and Reaper user. Now back on Cubase 13... and finally very happy, I must say. I use Ableton not very often. Most Midi editing and arranging ist way better in Cubase, included the great composing chord stuff. Cubase has better Audio recording/editing than in PT, can´t live without Direct Offline processing.SamplerTrack, the flexible render options, the BEST Mixer and Controlroom are also very good. Cubase onstock fx are on par with Logic. Highly recommend.
@muchlovepodcast
@muchlovepodcast 6 ай бұрын
Would you recommend a beginner start with Ableton and then move on the Cubase or start right away in Cubase?
@qcole8946
@qcole8946 6 ай бұрын
@@muchlovepodcaststart with it and learn it will be frustrating at first but your goal is to be fluent in your daw where it gets out the way. That’s if you choose to start with cubase
@LucasMessore
@LucasMessore 6 ай бұрын
I would just pick one and go for it, switching around is time consuming and not ideal. Cubase and Ableton are complete opposites as far as the way they behave
@MaximusWhyman
@MaximusWhyman 4 ай бұрын
@@muchlovepodcast Trial both and see what clicks.
@mikeillgaming4224
@mikeillgaming4224 2 ай бұрын
@@muchlovepodcast don't even waste your time .. go straight to cubase and watch dom sigalas, chris selim and jef gibbons tutorials.
@TwistedLila
@TwistedLila 7 ай бұрын
Cubase for ALL these reasons PLUS Nuendo's smoothest integration with Wwise. Overall, Steinberg rules. Plus, the best endorsement, Hans Zimmer prefers Cubase.
@mak_attakks
@mak_attakks 5 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for the detailed comparison, especially at the end mentioning who each is best for
@LucasMessore
@LucasMessore 4 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@watLegends
@watLegends Ай бұрын
Came in trying to replace Cubase, but the more videos I watch the more I realize why I can't leave it. Its become a part of me now, and I've barely have experience with it, its just so customized to me. Cubase might be super slow to get into, but that is solved with some learning and setting up templates for your specific needs.
@SkeadFerdinandMusic
@SkeadFerdinandMusic 5 ай бұрын
Cubase 13 for me. Daw's I worked with and know is FL Studio, Studio One Pro , Pro Tools, Logic and Abelton. Cubase just have everything covered.
@jindrapekny448
@jindrapekny448 5 ай бұрын
Ableton for songwriting, sound design. Then I print the stems and mix in Cubase Mixer. I could go pretty crazy with the plugins there, including Soothe and high latency plugins.
@reneyourlife
@reneyourlife 3 ай бұрын
great video! i'd like to see logic in comparison to live when it comes to live performances, i.e. artist/djing.
@KOISANX
@KOISANX 7 ай бұрын
Used all 3 as well and kept coming back to Cubase
@JohnWuMastermind
@JohnWuMastermind 4 ай бұрын
Cubase was so easy to learn it's a toy.. I think it's the best daw out of all of them covering all aspects of music and not partially like Ableton and Pro tools
@peterkadosa9043
@peterkadosa9043 27 күн бұрын
Cubase. Especially after the 14Pro upgrade- best choice for songwriting (if you are musician), mixing and mastering. With an SSL subscription it's an ultimate workflow with fantastic quality. Highly recommended, I'm using decade ago, perfect for fine tuning any small detail. Go for the Pro version... Be good, Peter
@djcolindale
@djcolindale 4 ай бұрын
I use Cubase 13 Pro which I love but have used Ableton before and miss the days when we were able to rewire the two together. Been Cubase for decades and don't see myself changing anytime soon.
@ErniLopezOsornio
@ErniLopezOsornio 3 ай бұрын
The rewire function is not available anymor??????? sh/*!
@mikeillgaming4224
@mikeillgaming4224 2 ай бұрын
LOL rewire was crazy ...
@jacqueskorb879
@jacqueskorb879 4 ай бұрын
Cubase for me. Just the control room with 4 headphone cue mixes, click on/off options etc, makes a huge difference without affecting the master mix. Another thing is the comping/lanes/versions. Great review!
@nungu60a
@nungu60a 2 ай бұрын
Great! video. I'm messing with logic(like pro tool), Ableton & Cubase. You've nailed what I couldn't pin point. I hope to build a work flow optimizing all three 😢
@danieldewar7234
@danieldewar7234 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for your views, by far the best and least complicated. I have now made a choice of which DAW to use, Ableton. Thanks.
@BillyBanter100
@BillyBanter100 2 ай бұрын
I use Cubase with the Reason rack. It's the best of both worlds for me. Thanks for a very informative video.
@reastora
@reastora 2 ай бұрын
ARA support for ableton workaround is this: go to option and set Melodyne as audio editor. Under the transpose there is edit button for audio clips if you click edit for audio clips it instantly opens melodyne with prints the audio right away, no recording no fuss.
@LucasMessore
@LucasMessore 2 ай бұрын
This is true you can totally go that route. This is destructive audio editing though and you cannot go back and adjust things like you could do with ARA
@unlockedaudio5109
@unlockedaudio5109 26 күн бұрын
You can freeze, duplicate the freeze and then print. I just put the freeze to the side. Wish you could hide tracks like you can in PT that are not active though.
@ILOVEDRAGO
@ILOVEDRAGO 3 ай бұрын
Forgot one of the greatest features of Cubase - VariAudio! It is the built-in "melodyne"-equivalent from steinberg. Worked great forever and was there before ARA2-Melodyne.
@jibonanondo7680
@jibonanondo7680 3 ай бұрын
Agreed.
@psycholarge
@psycholarge 2 ай бұрын
I use cubase as my primary DAW, Akai MPC an FL studio for beats.
@rickvestuto
@rickvestuto 4 ай бұрын
thank you for all your hard work I was on the edge between Live and Cubase.........but after watching this video I have decided to go with Live 12 Subbed
@lavs8696
@lavs8696 5 ай бұрын
so in depth. awesome job man, thanks
@libtekk
@libtekk 7 ай бұрын
Cuebase all day long and I can use ableton, fl, logic, pro tools. You can hit f2 or transport in cuebase and open a strip which you can move around change tempo easy.
@coldskoolbeatz
@coldskoolbeatz 5 ай бұрын
7:53 You can customize the toolbars in Cubase which is simple to do. I don't think it's difficult to get started in Cubase. The difficulty is learning the depth of certain features. I also wish they would allow us to rearrange the order of tracks in the mixer. I really dislike this lack of feature and is why it's not my goto for mixing.
@gmpas
@gmpas 4 ай бұрын
in the words of Adam Sandler this video is "the best" I've seen in this comparison category. great job Lucas. the clearest and most illuminating presentation on these three Dawes. from my limited experience you are spot-on dude. I went from Sonic foundry Vegas to cubase in 2007. and it is challenging to learn but in my humble opinion it is worth the journey. I tried out some other daws and it just seems like with cubase I'm only seeing the tip of the iceberg. it seems to be an extremely heavy, dense and robust package. more so than the other guys and probably just cuz they're so old and they've got a lot of legacy stuff in there too... I dunno. but I think I could make a career out of learning every aspect of it. there is one important feature in cubase that I absolutely love and never found anywhere else. it's the ARRANGER TRACK. at one point for several years I was editing long-form spoken word. these were speeches from business conferences around the country. I also had a radio play project that was fairly long form where the ranger track was indispensable and being able to keep track of what was said an hour ago and move it around without physically moving it around. it's an amazing feature when you need it.
@LucasMessore
@LucasMessore 4 ай бұрын
Hey thanks and appreciate the comment! Agreed!
@mickaeljobert9127
@mickaeljobert9127 4 ай бұрын
For me Cubase, Logic and Pro Tools. The rest are great but these three are the best.
@morizanova
@morizanova 7 ай бұрын
Ableton + Reaper are the best combo for me . Since both are different toolsets in term on "the best use case" , I don`t need thinking or judging too much . The faster I can make something from nothing suits better for me . One for building music ideas and concept , and the other one for mixing and audio editing in low cpu resources . I believe the cons with those combo is deep midi editing out of the box . There are always tricks and hacks but I know some people prefers as native features . Yeah I know , Reaper not the most easy to use DAW . But if you`re stick with simple use case with it ( like import your stems and start mixing ) it`s not that hard . And if you can spend more times , Their Action Keys - Shortcut and modifier I think comparable or maybe more capable to handle more complex tasks than Cubase or other DAW
@hoossembechiri6136
@hoossembechiri6136 8 ай бұрын
Nice video ❤..so do a video about other daws ..bro like fl studio ... studio one...etc .. For me the order is : 01 Nuendo 02 cubase 03 studio one 04 ableton live 05 logic pro 06 pro tools 07 fl studio. Than other daws... For me i use Studio one and ableton live If i will go with other daw and with steinberg i will choose nuendo over than cubase.....fl studio also hase free lifetime update seems like ...need Nuendo / studio one / ableton live/ fl studio
@CesarMalacon-wv3ki
@CesarMalacon-wv3ki 5 ай бұрын
Cubase awarded the best mixer where pro tools is a contender is a surprise to me. I just havent got to Cubase because unavailability. When I decided to move from Logic to a more Composer oriented DAW It was just after Cubase 13 was out, so they interrupted their End of year promotions. That Put Digital Performer at less than half of the price. As Digital PErformer is also done more for composers than anything else, I went with it. And learning All those three is a time hog. So I think I 'll continue to watch Cubase from the audience
@michail_777
@michail_777 5 ай бұрын
Hi and thanks for the comparison. I'm more and more convinced that I bought a Bitwig and it's the right thing to do.Sure, I had to buy a couple third-party plugins, but that's true of any DAW.
@DavidComdico
@DavidComdico 7 ай бұрын
A good balanced review. Some other categories: orchestral articulation support, latency and timing, and the impact of buffer size on performance (esp with Silicon Macs), notation support, and music theory tools. I use all three and they are all good but I get the most work done in Pro Tools.
@sasujuntunen3750
@sasujuntunen3750 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video. Very entertaining to watch!
@kaveiros75
@kaveiros75 Ай бұрын
Very honest and detailed video, without getting too long. As a sound engineer, the simplicity yet effectiveness of Pro Tools are matched by nothing else. Especially when combing or generally dealing with multiple takes. I also believed that the quality of the included plugins is more important than the quantity. If you do A/B blind-tests, then Pro Tools 's plugins are the ones that mostly make it to the final mix. - Having said that, Avid 's economic policy over the last few years, with the (now expensive) annual subscription, having abandoned the chance to get a perpetual license, really sucks! I 've been using Pro Tools since version 8, and now currently using the last perpetual license I purchased. When I will no longer be able to use it, then I will be forced to switch DAW!
@Kingchord2000
@Kingchord2000 6 ай бұрын
Cubase rules for composers and producers!!!
@zachvalenti
@zachvalenti 9 ай бұрын
Great video! Glad you stayed sane. I can only recommend doing this once more to give REAPER a try. You won’t regret it 😊
@dunkelwelpling
@dunkelwelpling 8 ай бұрын
That was a really good, in-depth comparison!
@LucasMessore
@LucasMessore 8 ай бұрын
Thanks!!
@caprimaniac01
@caprimaniac01 6 ай бұрын
I'm all into Cubase. Been working with different DAWs such as Harrison Mixbus, ProTools,..., but I prefer Cubase for all the mentioned reasons plus plenty of integrated features for which you will have to buy additional software when working with other DAWs ; I never need to get Melodyne because VariAudio is already built in and does a better job. The built-in Plugins are way better than what you could get in ProTools (1176 Style Compressor, complete Vocal chaîne Plugin, extremely versatile dynamic EQs,...) not to mention the ton of samples libraries and VST instruments.
@fatuyiibikunle4813
@fatuyiibikunle4813 6 ай бұрын
Nuendo 13 and Presonus studio one 6.6 are the two best daws I use for my production
@keithprice1950
@keithprice1950 Ай бұрын
Abelton for me. Almosyt every other DAW I've tried has a cluttered UI and windows popping up for different things. Ableton is just clean and easy on the eye. It never gets cluttered.
@athenkosinkonyeni1472
@athenkosinkonyeni1472 8 ай бұрын
3:15 - In Reason you can hot swap virtually anything: instruments, effects and samples etc.
@LucasMessore
@LucasMessore 8 ай бұрын
You definitely can. Reason is awesome !
@hardrod6989
@hardrod6989 4 ай бұрын
Will all the free vst plugins work with Abelton Live LITE . Thanks
@dagfinnlyngstad
@dagfinnlyngstad 4 ай бұрын
Great summary!
@claudiodonzelli
@claudiodonzelli 6 ай бұрын
Super helpful! thank you!
@thepatzer
@thepatzer 4 ай бұрын
Wouldn't want to drive you even more crazy, but looking into Studio One and Luna would also be cool. Thanks!
@LucasMessore
@LucasMessore 4 ай бұрын
Yeah as a natural progression after this phase I started running my sessions in S1 for a couple months. I think I like S1 and Ableton the best for day to day music making. S1 still feels a bit cluttered to me but it streamlines a lot of things that cubase has. It has a few small drawbacks though, but so do all of them.
@muchlovepodcast
@muchlovepodcast 6 ай бұрын
This was very thorough and I'm super grateful you took the time to do this. Right now, I have been learning trumpet for a year and want to start composing music. It sounds like Ableton might be a great place to start making music and eventually upgrade to Cubase once I've gotten the basics down. Does this seem like I've understood your analysis for my situation?
@LucasMessore
@LucasMessore 6 ай бұрын
Awesome! Yeah definitely get some free trials, I would check out ableton and forget about switching around just find the best one and go with it! Ableton is the way if you want something fast and fun, and don't have any super complicated audio recording projects.
@coldskoolbeatz
@coldskoolbeatz 6 ай бұрын
Cubase for Production/Mixing. Reaper for Mixing Reason 12 exported Stems because mixing in Reason is a chore for me. Plus it isn't M1 native so it is not efficient. And Pro Tools for recording and editing vocals.
@ashavari
@ashavari 3 ай бұрын
Cubase has no trackpad functionality?! That is wild. No thank you for me! Gonna get ableton now - easy! Context: I already use studio 1 for recording and editing & demo mixes… was looking for a second daw that’s better for production
@mikeillgaming4224
@mikeillgaming4224 2 ай бұрын
I have a trackpad for windows and it works just fine ... I think apple trackpads are the issue
@djerikfox
@djerikfox 2 ай бұрын
you should try logic pro 11 also, its amazing and rock solid!!regards
@Ch1mereucheya
@Ch1mereucheya 6 ай бұрын
Nuendo/Cubase for production and then I export to Pro Tools for mixing. I don't think any DAW comes close to PT for mixing and handling audio. PT sucks with midi production but it's second to none in audio processing and mixing.
@markkaeder9018
@markkaeder9018 7 ай бұрын
Ableton also does not support AAF or OMF which has been a big barrier to me giving it a try. I'm very accustomed to being able to throw arrangements between DAWs. I'm a hardcore Cubase guy but am well versed in both PT and Logic.
@johnnydswing
@johnnydswing Ай бұрын
Cubase is the king but I love pro tools for recording and editing and now also the looks of pro tools are amazing
@rook9309
@rook9309 6 ай бұрын
I love Cubase, especially for mixing but for some reason I find I’m way quicker in my creative process using FLStudio coming up with way more unique ideas and compositions that I simple never do using purely Cubase. I don’t know if FL Studio Piano roll is just that good or if I’m just not advanced enough in Cubase. Cubase just feels a bit clunky when trying to compose I’m not as nimble.
@LucasMessore
@LucasMessore 6 ай бұрын
I know, I've been wanting cubase to cover all bases and it does on paper bit in use it's the most clunky and has the most quirks. It's a shame. I end up gravitating toward ableton it's just much quicker and I'm sure FL is a similar story.
@MusicOfDreamweaver
@MusicOfDreamweaver 10 ай бұрын
Hi Lucas. Fun video. I just wanted to mention something about the tempo adjustment in Ableton: When dealing with samples, Ableton ruins long samples because it is set to adjust them on import. Cubase is the other way around. You can have the same functionality in Cubase. You just import, then put on music mode in the pool window. In Ableton you have to turn it off first, then turn it on again if the sample is long. I've had tons of issues with this in Ableton. I would also disagree with your notion that Cubase is diffcult to learn. I found it easier to understand the workflow in Cubase, than I did in Ableton due to it all being ease to read from the UI. I feel that your conclusion at the end with suggetions for who the different DAWs could fit was very good. I use both Ableton and Cubase.
@LucasMessore
@LucasMessore 10 ай бұрын
Hey thanks! You can disable that behaviour in ableton by unchecking "auto warp long samples" in the preferences. And lastly, glad you feel that way! I like them both for different reasons.
@jamesdaly8266
@jamesdaly8266 5 ай бұрын
100%
@rockr8840
@rockr8840 6 ай бұрын
Cubase and FL studio user here ❤❤❤..
@MohndiOfficial
@MohndiOfficial 6 ай бұрын
Nice to meet you! I use FL for musical compositions then do drums and all recordings and mixing in Cubase. The best combo imo!
@jorgedejesustejedavaldez5283
@jorgedejesustejedavaldez5283 6 ай бұрын
As a person that use Cubase and Ableton in the past, I totally recommend you to use Studio One, is like Pro tools, cubase and in some way ableton have a Child lol.
@LucasMessore
@LucasMessore 6 ай бұрын
Yeah, I'm late to the party but I started using it and it alleviates all my issues with all of them. Thanks!
@jorgedejesustejedavaldez5283
@jorgedejesustejedavaldez5283 6 ай бұрын
@@LucasMessore i hope you d a video in the future about that
@BerriBerriJam
@BerriBerriJam 9 ай бұрын
When you review Ableton Live, which version are you referring to? Version 12 has been in beta for the past 3 months and is officially being released in 2 days. I'm still stuck in version 9 but always reluctant to upgrade and mess up all my settings.
@LucasMessore
@LucasMessore 9 ай бұрын
I'm on 11, and yes I will be upgrading to 12 in a few days to see what that's about. I feel you on updating but you should check out 11 it has some huge features like comping!
@SteveFranchise23
@SteveFranchise23 7 ай бұрын
Cubase for me
@ILOVEDRAGO
@ILOVEDRAGO 3 ай бұрын
Ableton for beats, Cubase for vocal recording, mixing, mastering. All day everyday!" 😃💯
@DareonSky
@DareonSky 5 ай бұрын
Is it possible in Cubase to route tracks by midi ports and channels like port 2 channle 4 ?
@djblunt01
@djblunt01 17 күн бұрын
Been with Cubase since SX3.
@chap2065
@chap2065 3 ай бұрын
good video, just the facts ty
@jdsd_
@jdsd_ Ай бұрын
Thanks a lot for the informative video! I am still wondering if I should go for Ableton or Cubase as a composer. Ive never used a DAW, I mainly compose film/ game music for orchestra (did that with regular notation programs till today) but want to switch to a DAW. Are Ableton and Cubase both able to export into a notation file, so it can be edited and printed as a score using a notation software like MuseScore? I really like to get started quickly so i am pretty concerned about the complexity of Cubase. As a newbie to DAWs, is it that much harder and more time consuming to learn and get used to Cubase compared to the more straightforward Ableton?
@LucasMessore
@LucasMessore Ай бұрын
Hey! I apologize in advance that my videos do not focus too much on scoring because I do mostly rock/pop/hiphop music production. I would definitely go right to Cubase for scoring. Ableton does not have any features geared toward that. Cubase is amazing for MIDI composition. It's pretty widely used and honestly it shouldn't be too tough to pick up for starters, I think most of my confusion was switching to cubase from something else is confusing. Let me know how it goes!
@garyvanliew1966
@garyvanliew1966 4 ай бұрын
I have Ableton from a purchase, Cubase and Luna. I've tried Cubase and Ableton and it didn't work for me. I'm going to dedicate the next month to trying them again.
@JoshStewartmakesmusic
@JoshStewartmakesmusic 4 ай бұрын
Also ableton has had mpe and continues to kill it there and random generations and the instruments are insanely good
@AFGautonompunk
@AFGautonompunk 3 ай бұрын
hey Lucas, thanks for the video, these are actually the sequencers i'm thinking about learning (apart renoise), but i'll probably try them all in the next years. also, that's some kool outro beat you got.
@robflores5172
@robflores5172 4 ай бұрын
I use Reaper, Cubase, Ableton, and FL Studio
@whatlooksrightisright
@whatlooksrightisright 4 ай бұрын
Check Warp in Cubase. Properly. All three types of Warp. Ableton, my ass. Then think of your fav pre-made Template, so that you never have to spend a lot of time when starting.
@whatlooksrightisright
@whatlooksrightisright 4 ай бұрын
(And whats that nonsense about tracpad in Cubase? Ever tried? Apple Trackpad in Cubendo is what makes you forget the mouse, instantly. Customise, goddamit.)
@mikeillgaming4224
@mikeillgaming4224 2 ай бұрын
Cubase warp grid 💯
@Rybson666
@Rybson666 4 ай бұрын
I'am sure if I'd started with Cubase, I 'd stay with it. BUT I started with Sonar (as a professional), which is super clunky, and has too much of everything, and I quickly switched to Studio One which is total oposside; fast, intuitive and FAST. But Cubase is my 2nd DAW due to the clients (and sentiment, I started with SX) it has all, but Studio One is best of both worlds, I mean Logic and Cubase.
@BiglarryWalker
@BiglarryWalker 3 ай бұрын
Or you can make sounds with chord player and Lmms and arrange and master with BandLab that’s the easiest path
@JeyFish
@JeyFish 8 ай бұрын
You should give Luna a shot. I love it.
@LucasMessore
@LucasMessore 8 ай бұрын
Will do! I tried it when it first came out and it was a bit bare bones but I bet it's improved. Thanks!
@rihamission487
@rihamission487 7 ай бұрын
I only use daws for practicing and recording my bass (I don't have an amp, only an audio interface). I use heavy third-party effects and amp sim plugins but my laptop is in the low-budget spectrum. In regular practice sessions, I want to worry as little as I can about the program, and only focus on my playing. I have plans for music production in the future, but I'll stick to recording for now. What daw do you think is the best one for me?
@LucasMessore
@LucasMessore 7 ай бұрын
go for ableton, as a musician that one seems to be the most similar to a musical instrument. It's quick and responsive and great for shedding!
@rihamission487
@rihamission487 7 ай бұрын
@@LucasMessore Thanks a lot for your suggestion. That's what I'll do then.
@coldskoolbeatz
@coldskoolbeatz 6 ай бұрын
I'd say Reaper because it is very, very inexpensive and easy to use. Just add a track, enable, and start recording.
@rihamission487
@rihamission487 5 ай бұрын
@@coldskoolbeatz Yeah, I was using Reaper while writing that comment. I thought it would be an improvement, so I switched to Ableton. Turns out, Ableton is slightly more resource-heavy than Reaper. It pushes my CPU to the limit. But Ableton's default Slap Bass preset is soo cool, just the tone I want. That's kind of the only reason why I still use Ableton. I switch between Reaper and Ableton.
@coldskoolbeatz
@coldskoolbeatz 5 ай бұрын
@@rihamission487 I have a MacBook Pro M1. When I use other DAWs for mixing, even if they use all Performance and Efficiency cores, Reaper is the most resource lite of them all by a mile! It's not even close. How do they do it? I don't know. But that is the number 1 reason why I use it for that task specifically.
@Avryg00
@Avryg00 2 ай бұрын
Cubase for composition, ableton for fun beat making
@MULTIVERSEGEETV
@MULTIVERSEGEETV 4 ай бұрын
I have Cubase and Studio one
@quiubolecab
@quiubolecab 4 ай бұрын
Pros of Studio one vs Cubase?
@alimustafa9025
@alimustafa9025 3 ай бұрын
Cubase was best but now lots of issues to deal with hope they will fix these things
@tebqzik_music
@tebqzik_music 6 ай бұрын
I use Cubase and Pro Tools
@lX-NDR
@lX-NDR 4 ай бұрын
I use cubase&ableton. But both for its own powers.
@timbeneton8068
@timbeneton8068 6 ай бұрын
Cubase eats them with ease + it can handle way more plugins! Its audio engine is the best on the market!
@horriblekid3014
@horriblekid3014 3 ай бұрын
have been using ableton for about 5 years and today i purchased cubase. hopefully i'll get started with cubase soon!
@cosignnetwork5784
@cosignnetwork5784 3 ай бұрын
Good luck it’s the best and easy to learn … everything is straightforward
@horriblekid3014
@horriblekid3014 3 ай бұрын
@@cosignnetwork5784 Have been studying cubase for about 10 days and I'm still more used to using ableton haha. Cubase has so many buttons and customized options that makes it hard to find some specific botton, and it really takes efforts to set everything up. But I have to admit that Cubase has way more features than ableton (I'm kind of awe-struck by that). Anyway, it will be so cool to be a dual-daw producer! and learning new things is always inspiring and exciting.
@babayaga6440
@babayaga6440 Ай бұрын
Reaper checks all the boxes.
@sickmessiah
@sickmessiah 3 ай бұрын
You should really try out studio one pro.
@LucasMessore
@LucasMessore 3 ай бұрын
I'm on it and love it. Will be the topic of the next video. Thanks!
@viranimediakenya3272
@viranimediakenya3272 2 ай бұрын
Flstudio is the GOAT 🐐 🙌 👌. Cubase good but not for live performances and working quick on the fly.
@DAUBSKI
@DAUBSKI 6 ай бұрын
I was a cubase user for the sound (summing engine)now i am all the way Ableton because i dont care any more . I love the fast workflow and music trips i get out of this program.. Cubase feels old to me.
@LucasMessore
@LucasMessore 6 ай бұрын
I was using Cubase for a couple months going strong but yes I agree. It's slower and laggier than I wish
@Byron101_
@Byron101_ 7 ай бұрын
tip: switching from PT to Cubase (Nuendo) kzbin.info/www/bejne/hKvMZmOofpiVr80
@DaveWestGuitar
@DaveWestGuitar 9 күн бұрын
Cubase is nice, but harder to learn for me than Pro Tools and Studio One Pro.
@TwstedTV
@TwstedTV 3 ай бұрын
It's a shame you didn't add Presonus Studio One to this comparison battle. 😋 Oh, and I own Studio One, Ableton, BitWig, Cubase, Luna, Pro-Tools (before they turned subscription only) and Reason. My go to is Studio One, when I am with an artist or musician with live instruments. then Ableton for EDM music only. I sold around $85k of Avid equipment when the Pro-Tools subscription fiasco happened and switched to Studio one. My entire studio was AVID gear since I come from the analogue days. 😋
@LucasMessore
@LucasMessore 3 ай бұрын
There will be a video coming soon on this. I really ended up liking S1! That's crazy that you had that much Avid gear, the subscription is quite expensive.
@goodshorts
@goodshorts 9 ай бұрын
Next up: Logic Pro, Reason and Presonus Studio!
@LucasMessore
@LucasMessore 9 ай бұрын
And FL Studio, Bitwig, Digital Performer lol
@patwebb882
@patwebb882 9 ай бұрын
Reason and Logic are so damn🔥🔥🔥🔥
@maxxyporky
@maxxyporky 3 ай бұрын
I ise studio one, it is between abelton and cubase ;)
@the_JTowny
@the_JTowny 4 күн бұрын
I disagree on the warping ease of use when it comes to cubase. Super simple. 14 pro is a massive update too. One of the best ones in ages. I personally think Ableton has grown like it has because they basically gave it away with anything from keyboards and synths, to a pack of plectrums. It was marketing genius. Most people don't swap their DAW once they've learnt one. They may add another, but keep the first one they learned. We get really tribal over them too, like football teams or something. I've used Ableton, cakewalk, fruity loops, reason, logic, pro tools, acid pro, magix and maybe 1 or 2 I've forgotten over 30 odd years. Not tried reaper, studio 1, Luna, serato or bitwig. There's so much choice now and they're all very capable. I just don't want to arsed to learn another like I know cubase. It's like going from being a taxi driver in Manchester, to being a taxi driver in Birmingham (pre sat nav days) it's still a car, it's still driving, it's still a city, it's still the same job. Just now all the streets are different and you've no idea where your going for ages until you learn the new city. At the end of it all, your still a taxi driver. You gained nothing. I can recommend cubase as a fantastic, full featured DAW. Great for every genre, lacks nothing. Comes with fantastic plug ins and instruments, loads of sound libraries. You don't need to spend another penny on 3rd party stuff if you don't want to. I won't sit here and tell you it's the best, but I can confidently say the others won't be better, just different.
@Harmony4jaaz
@Harmony4jaaz 3 ай бұрын
Oh. Cubase. because it has everything to make master piece and it is easy.
@nukenoly8751
@nukenoly8751 5 ай бұрын
I use all the DAWs but Cubase is best for songwriting. Ableton is best for blips and bloops. Pro Tools is best for big studios
@ErixSamson
@ErixSamson 10 ай бұрын
Would you agree that Ableton is rather focused on electronic music and live?
@LucasMessore
@LucasMessore 10 ай бұрын
Yes!
@BixiDoxxes
@BixiDoxxes Ай бұрын
Where the Reaper at 🗣️🗣️🗣️
@LOLCoolJ
@LOLCoolJ 9 ай бұрын
You lost me at Ableton is "incredibly stable." 🤣
@LucasMessore
@LucasMessore 9 ай бұрын
Oh no what are you doing that it crashes? That's so annoying
@jacksp8de
@jacksp8de 8 ай бұрын
@@LucasMessoreit crashes constantly but it depends on what plugins you’re using. It always saves when it crashes so I have never lost any work
@vodkastudios4170
@vodkastudios4170 7 ай бұрын
It can be stable... once you stop using plugins it does not work well with, if you only used stock plugins it is pretty much rock solid, and 95% of other plugins are fine and don't crash it, but man is it a nightmare when a new update comes out and a certain plugin does not work anymore and crashes ableton, then you gotta spend time finding the plugin that caused it, if they sandboxed the external vsts like bitwig, it would fix that problem.
@foljs5858
@foljs5858 7 ай бұрын
tons of famous musicians/bands people use it for live shows, so it IS stable. You're just using unstable plugins...
@jacksp8de
@jacksp8de 7 ай бұрын
@@foljs5858 I love Ableton. It’s my go to but it definitely crashes and my other DAWS studio one, pro tools, logic, Luna don’t crash nearly as much. So there must be a difference in the way they handle plugins
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