I am Amon! Playing the 2v1 Chain of Ascension Challenge vs 7thAce & Ectar

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[@7thAce]

Oh no, my greatest weakness again: Playing Terran. This time I even chose to do it. Oops.

[@raizan5946]

Super fun! Keep coming to Super Grant Party please.

[@Venkintus]

bet you dont know what pot of greed does

[@7thAce]

@@Venkintus never heard of it.

[@stryk3r123]

Regarding the end, Ectar's base died. All the zerg buildings were white, gave Grant vision, and said "Amon's Forces" if you hovered over them, meaning they were all killed by missiles and stolen by Eminent Domain.

[@evdaman]

This

[@huynhphucm445]

Amon sending out High Templars with no storms is just pure hilarious. "Really? You want me to feedback those bane and zerglings?"

[@EchoRigan]

At the end, it’s Zag who lost all her buildings. The hatcheries are Amon’s forces and you can see the queen attacking the overseer at the end. The buildings died and were given to Grant.

[@Salted_Fysh]

Huh. My engagement comment seems to have been swallowed by the KZbin gods. My name is Shepard and I like VarietyGrantGames content cause it makes him happy. Probably.

[@yessir6919]

I saw it, it's still here.

[@PeterZaitcev]

I saw it, it's still here.

[@l0rf]

The algorithm must be appeased.

[@npgabriel]

I'm commander Shepard and this is my favorite Grant in the Giant Games

[@Uncensored_Thrack]

Shpard comment here comment engagement rythem algae or whatever the great commander once said. Happy Grant best Grant.

[@bowlerhats]

The banelings now have more baneling per baneling

[@PeterZaitcev]

We added banelings to your banelings inside your banelings so you'd be able to play with banelings when you are playing with banelings.

[@Baiswith]

This is because we heard you like banelings 😁

[@tntengineer2330]

Cave johnson brand banelings brought to you by Aperture Science.

[@nightshade4873]

tbh, with the Mod-burnout thing mentioned in a previous video, this is definitely a refreshing thing, cause while seeing you play mods is fun and getting some giggles here and there, i think having another person be around for like some interaction rather than talking to thin air is a very different feel. and also to be really honest on some of the kinda meh mod videos, i just end up listening to them kinda like an ASMR videos, cause you do have a good voice for it.

[@Warclam]

The GGGASMR is real.

[@ClassyHatsVT]

There's something very charming about opponents in an RTS game being able to banter with each other in voice chat, it's very fun.

[@bluedraconem3112]

Hopefully this mod develops more in the future so you don't feel the need to intentionally hold back as Amon. I got the feel after the 1st fight that if you wanted to, you could crush the co-op side.

[@bluedraconem3112]

and as mentioned at the end, the co-op side could crush Amon with the right hero choice. It sounds very challenging to produce something in the middle that challenges both parties.

[@justanoman6497]

@@bluedraconem3112 I'm not sure about that. Most commanders are strong against some mutation and weak against others, which is why for high mutation chanllenges, you want to pick your commander according to the mutator. But here, the order is reversed, you can pick the mutator to counter the commanders instead. Any swarmy commander would be countered by, for example, infest+explosion like the first game. Any elite squad(but non-heroic) commander would be countered by the one shot stuff like the brood queen (and probably infestor/DA against air). That leaves rather limited choices, and even those probably are countered by something, just not as hard. I would say timestop is probably one of the strongest ability that have no real play around, most mutator are irrlevant when it is applied. Increasing wave frequency so that there is just so much stuff that they can't clear everything fast enough might be the best way against that, I'm not sure.

[@randomdude7052]

@@justanoman6497 Timestop with that one prestige that says "my shadow guard respawn on time stop" if played properly can just flat out kill amon's shard in like 25 minutes if executed correctly. Most, if not all other things can be countered. Also, dark mirror against anyone who isn't really swarmy is an instant win because yes

[@Salted_Fysh]

This is an engagement comment to support VarietyGrantGaming. Very engage, big much.

[@yourdoom6554]

This is an engagement reply to assure you that yes, your comment is still here, and was not swallowed by the KZbin gods.

[@Salted_Fysh]

@@yourdoom6554 and so it is. How interesting. KZbin truly is a technological marvel of the highest order. As befits a dedicated small indie developer. 👍

[@l0rf]

I wish to also do my part.

[@bluesbest1]

"I'm doing my part!"

[@jinx0044]

Mengsk's unit become heroic at 3 stars, so it's normal to one-shot those units. Remember Grant that you had the same problem with Wings of Mengsk and mind control.

[@GiantGrantGamesArchives]

It still ain't fair man

[@justanoman6497]

I don't have the commander so I'm not sure, but is the heroic thing in co-op or is it just in that campaign mod? The camaign&co-op mod for melee map doesn't have the heroic thing I think.

[@goh7440]

They don't get heroic tag at 3 stars in coop, that is only in the mod

[@jinx0044]

@@justanoman6497 I don't have the commander either, I was just presuming that it works in the same way as it did in the custom campaign we saw, but I might be wrong. If anybody has insight on this, please let me know, many thanks!

[@jinx0044]

@@GiantGrantGamesArchives fair? neah. fun? evil? sadistic? 😈

[@emilchan5379]

I think Zerg lost their base at the end. All the Zerg buildings were named as Amon's Forces when highlighted at the end because they were handed over to Grant due to Eminent Domain. Amazing that Grant was able to win even after he "lost"!

[@yessir6919]

For the first time (as far as I know), Grant is the boss instead of the adventurer. God help us all. 2:19 Doable or not, I would totally try that. 8:41 God dangit. 17:50 Oh, the Bulldozer comp. 19:40 Lmao, trying to hide roaches behind the mineral line from leveled Prides. 26:34 That escalated quickly. 26:52 "Giga Gagagigo" 30:04 Ji'nara needed the handicap. Alternatively, BM. 36:47 Activating this while there's a lot of Scourges, you sent Kerrigan to the Shadow Realm. 41:10 The comeback! The clutch! It! Is! GAME! The end of the second game was so hype. It's literally anime shit. "My reinforcements have arrived! You've lost your opening!" "Not so fast! Time Stop!"

[@bluesbest1]

"You may have defeated me, but behold! My reinforcements have arrived to avenge me! And my Death Laser has already fired!"

[@legacy2355]

it’s a bit hard to tell, but i think it was ectar not having any more buildings that caused them to lose

[@shadowpriest2574]

But he had buildings. You only lose once you lose all buildings.

[@PerseverantDT]

​@@shadowpriest2574All of the buildings in Ectar's vision (at 44:39) were either Ace's or Amon's via Eminent Domain. Unless something broke Ectar's vision, he did lose all his buildings.

[@shadowpriest2574]

@@PerseverantDT Ow yeah, I forgot about that mutation as a possibility.

[@shadowpriest2574]

@@PerseverantDT Right, the zerg did, right?

[@justanoman6497]

Wait... on this mission, if one of the player is completely wiped out, can the remaining player solo push the objective? Single player elimination might actually be game loss on this mission if that's not an option. Edit: To be clear, at that point he have no production building and a single drone. Not enough resource to build a hatch, which means he will have to push with the one drone if two player push is still required, and if the drone dies, the objective might be impossible to push and thus would be a game loss on the co-op commander side as they have no win con

[@codegavran]

In "real" co-op, it is impossible to push Jinara without units from both players no matter what, and single player elimination is an immediate loss for both players.

[@cowcat8124]

A clean 2-0 by Grant, nice work winning both games

[@jonathanmiller4661]

Grant "apologetically" destroying his friends in this first match was just pure gold

[@Majstajlah]

20:38 if Alarak had mouth, he would grin so hard at Artanis's face. xD

[@nightshade4873]

[@solarkness5077]

I am very interested in seeing you wrap them up into more 3-player gamesss It's a blast seeing you banter with them on friendly terms

[@Osteichthyes]

This was so much fun to watch, definitely interested to see other combinations and potentially some other players as well, see how they handle the insanity (or how they create it).

[@saevin11]

I don't generally enjoy RTS stuff with a scale as huge as this (actually part of why I didn't like Eyesir or Purifiers as much) but this was still enjoyable to watch for variety, and I'm hyped to keep getting different arcade stuff and other cool things. Since you have access to plenty of people for it like your twitch viewers or even as a group of mod makers it might be funny to see some of the high player counter arcade maps like the mafia style ones, survivals, or similar stuff, or maybe even something like mod makers vs viewers?

[@-Raylight]

Grant's dad -jokes- puns are getting out of hands in this xD Sounds like a great mod to play... if you have friends 😭 Definitely would love to see more of you guys!!

[@TheLikerofPie]

Absolutely love these games! Caught them a bit on your stream sometimes and always enjoyed how you brought your community into games. Cheers!

[@breathofire1449]

14:30 Gehenna is a valley outside of Jerusalem and has been used historically as a metaphor for Hell. 18:50 "Hey - I'm not expendable!" P3 Mengsk: NOW you are!

[@Nurk0m0rath]

I can't tell if you guys were kidding about battening the hatches but I just wanted to clarify for those who don't know, it refers to boarding up windows and doors in advance of a storm. A "batten" is basically another word for a board.

[@firedrake110]

The map: Requires two people to be alive to push Jenara *One player loses their whole base and units, triggering a game over* Grant: That can't be right, that has to be a bug

[@temrozela]

term originated in the navy, where it signified preparing for a storm by fastening down canvas over doorways and hatches (openings) with strips of wood called battens

[@randomguy6822]

I wanted Grant to try some more non-StarCraft things before the summer, but have to admit that this was a lot of fun to watch. It's nice to see him have someone to talk with (and not just to), at least from time to time. Especially when they're on opposing sides.

[@jimladXLII]

I love Asymmetric games like this, if there are any more maps like this I'd love to see them!

[@tdl1315]

I played this once. I was playing stukov, the Amon guy bought 1 mutator, which is like "any unit that dies revives as a enemy unit" and now my infested would time out, die, and be reborn as permanent, amon controled infested. Needless to say i never played this map again

[@alamei]

Great start to the variety streams! I can't wait to see what other content you come up with.

[@kassek2891]

That was very entretaining to watch, love the variety

[@imafireIsFroent]

This was an absolute bop and I'd love to watch more of this.

[@inductivegrunt94]

Playing as Amon sounds really cool. Setting up Void Shards to extract Void Essence in order to get mutators is a really fun idea. I would love to see more of this mod if possible, maybe get Jay involved to see how he thinks about this mod.

[@Evelyyy.]

I love this arcade, it's definitly one of the more fun to play with friends! There's some custom mutations that are really cool. I just wished there were more maps. For anyone wanting to try, just do not use the mutation "dark mirror"... It is completly bugged unfortunatly.

[@Ninguin]

This needs to be a series. This was fun to watch!

[@brianfhunter]

really love when you do content with more people, this game mode looks very fun as well.

[@onemanjack6912]

Grant having fun is always a good watch. This custom game mode looks hella neat too!

[@Mythmaker12687]

Really cool game mode. I like that Grant lost the battle but won the war in that second game. It was microscopically close.

[@user-lt5xf5cj6r]

the supreme commander mutator should also make enemy units think that mountains are fields.

[@quinnalves715]

Can we get another of these… it was incredible fun to watch

[@JaxonHaze1994]

This seemed like lots of fun, hope to see more!

[@Jason-MOT]

This was sooo much fun! I'd love to see more vids like these!

[@TheYkkandri]

Glad to see Grant happy again playing arcade after the last arcade streams became more and more frustrating for him. Also, this was very entertaining to watch. So good on you, Grant!

[@leadpaintchips9461]

I enjoyed this a lot! I think the only issue I had was the open mic with one of the guests combined with the increase apm moments being so much clicking.

[@QuestionableObject]

the sheer difficulty chasm between zerg amon and protoss amon is hilarious

[@minions5798]

More of this please. This was amazing! :)

[@theoverarch6909]

This looks ridiculously fun hoping to try it out with the boys

[@amythystmiriel]

This was fun! I'd love to see more of it.

[@kabob0077]

20:06 Oh hey, I didn't expect to see Supreme Commander in a Starcraft 2 video...

[@ACEYGAMES]

Honestly this seems really cool. I'd be happy to see more of this with Grant as either side.

[@Helthan]

I would definitelt watch more of this, This was a lot of fun.

[@GeorgeOBrien-jn6uf]

I have a great idea for the strategy regarding fighting amon in this mod specifically: the final nova mastery, where she can super cloak. Use it and target the production. It's basically super hard to stop you and you force a ton of micro out of the opponent to try to counter.

[@TheOG-Dov]

Grant still winning after he got his shard destroyed is still amazing. Very well played.

[@inni_gplus]

This was really fun to watch!

[@archapmangcmg]

It's flaming betty time! Seriously, I enjoyed this game mode and would love to see you guys play it again.

[@arcticocean725]

very cool would be fun to see more of this

[@younghahwang9748]

This seems really fun. Definitely worth trying out.

[@Antare5]

fascinating game mode. Cool to watch, wouldn't mind seeing it again some day

[@eqsaz]

Spawn broodlings: yes, it's busted, but for some reason the Amon AI only uses them on regular siege tanks and no other unit.

[@mortegon583]

Damn, I thought from the title that this would be a sneak peak at the amon faction lol. Still fun to watch though; kudos to everyone involved

[@Withr916]

Would love to see more of this game mode

[@ShadowVR2]

Would definitely enjoy seeing you play this game again, from both sides of gameplay.

[@mossblomma]

That was really entertaining, so I wouldn't mind more of this.

[@Flamewarden_Honoushugoshin]

Being in a voice call with your opponents is always fun xD

[@Bronawix]

That was a lot of fun! The pair got the win in that 2nd game I'd say

[@Kilraeus]

We shall defeat the algorithm's desire to turn all creators into Sisyphus. Long live VarietyGrantGames

[@raizan5946]

Super fun visit to the shadow realm. More, more, more!

[@silversteve4293]

okay this mod looks really fun

[@pb_119]

thank you VarietyGrantGames for granting us the variety games

[@SirNoble10]

I love me some Ace and Ectar content.

[@bungusaddict2052]

more of this, this is really really cool

[@polios3123]

we need an SC2 custom campaign where you select 5 different units and they combine into some kind of Exodia.

[@giuseppe9653]

This was quite fun to watch in the VarietyMatthewGames channel

[@jaydenly8153]

I was always scared about this mode but seeing it now it does seem fun

[@korhol2065]

Trust me, your idea of cruel isn’t what most people think This mission is already cruel by itself

[@PastryScent]

Don't hate on the blimps. They have a very wide detection radius and you want to build them regardless. Keep 2 or 3 of them with your army and leapfrog them forward.

[@GoGoGoTV1]

I wish grant wouldn’t sandbag himself intentionally! It’s fun to see him at his full force

[@Ushiokoroni]

Took me a while to realize what mission this was XD But i always love reverse missions, especially with friends -w-

[@cloaker7139]

Wow, this game mode seems really fun, I wish I had friends like Mr. Grant!

[@chaplainarkanus6410]

I think the nexus coop mod combined with this would be crazy

[@much7395]

so cool to see Grant & Friends

[@billyjoemuch8900]

I really hope they do this again it seems really fun

[@valiensfortus6400]

That was fantastic !

[@chrisoconnor7894]

VarietyGrantGames, hell yea.

[@Devon-gw2bs]

You crippled yourself there with the even ground modifier, but if you did the hardened shield ability on top of that (where your heroic units take 10 damage max unless enemy heroic units are nearby) you would have decimated the effectiveness of the scourge and banelings

[@ForthReicher16]

They should make a hybrid campaign in SC3

[@Kaggiekins]

That was pretty funny lmao, I vibe with it

[@omegavulture8379]

General Grantfield has send down another Gehorgon!

[@expepem189xl3]

Second one is a Friends win, because now coop should count as lose if someone doesnt have any main bases, it were at some point i think, but now its about fully elliminating stuctures!

[@mateusinhogameplays2319]

Zagara lost all Strucures in the end, so it was a Grant vic, does'nt looked like she lost all but because everything was Grant's stuff, they were making infinite queens

[@Nekoyashiki-san]

Thanks for the fun! ^^

[@blakehenry9030]

You know if you timed time stop right after the last hybrid wave appears you can push him in without killing them

[@lagg1e]

Grant won the second round because Zagara lost all her buildings. It looks like she has buildings, but they all belong to Amon's forces because of Eminent Domain. That's not Zagara's hive.

[@BobertJoe]

I am definitely in favor of you doing fun arcade stuff

[@michaelbarnard8529]

Baton the hatches: secure the hatches with batons, because it was before latches.

[@Y0G0FU]

Jup Queens using Spawn Broodlings on Shock Devisions and Blackhammers is extremely broken. I think level 3 units are immune but its still expensive as frick to loose half your Royal Guard to them xD

[@crismonBlue]

this should be a weekly tournament ! xD

[@slavaermolenko5904]

Please more! This mode looks very interesting and refreshing after that many modded campaigns playthrough. Though i dont mind if you have another arcades in mind to try.

[@tabula_rosa]

this was a fun video! i enjoy these. have you guys played the Isolation custom campaign? it plays like a whole new game inside of SC2, and its so good that my spouse (who actively dislikes SC2) saw me playing & wanted to join