"I beat Bruce Lee sparring and so would all these Karate Champions!" - Victor Moore interview part 2

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Viking Samurai

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@VikingSamurai
@VikingSamurai Жыл бұрын
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@aagreenidge
@aagreenidge Жыл бұрын
You should have asked him if he was the inspiration for BullHorn from Black Dynamite. 😁😁
@julianparker896
@julianparker896 Жыл бұрын
People can believe Vic Moore's story if they want to but here's the actual full unedited video with him and Bruce Lee and it doesn't corroborate his version of what happened. kzbin.info/www/bejne/j3mrgnlniK17gtk
@shawngilmore3628
@shawngilmore3628 Жыл бұрын
Bro victor moore be lying ,jiimharrison knock him out the fight on youtube and victor moore said he beat him harrison all bullshit
@reggbutcher5001
@reggbutcher5001 Жыл бұрын
I don't even no wat to say but bruce lee is the best the God father of martial arts period
@shawngilmore3628
@shawngilmore3628 Жыл бұрын
@@reggbutcher5001 facts!!!
@t-virusterrance4734
@t-virusterrance4734 Жыл бұрын
Hello, Viking Samurai. This is absolutely ridiculous. I'm so tired of humans disrespecting Bruce Lee. All of a sudden, everyone has beaten him, everyone can beat him. Even though I respect the man you're interviewing, this is where I draw the line. All these legendary Martial Artists like - Bolo Yueng, Jim Kelly, Joe Lewis (Heavyweight Kickboxing champion), Chuck Norris and Jackie Chan, all said the same thing. Bruce was untouchable, his speed unmatched, combined with freakish strength, and Martial Arts techniques that flowed, too fast for the eyes to see. They watched Bruce defeat black belts with ease. On top of that, Jackie Chan said, when he did Enter the Dragon with Bruce, as one of the guys he beat up on the island, that Bruce hurt him, when Bruce wasn't even moving his fastest, wasn't even using alot of strength. Like wow, this guy can move, but he considers it a highlight of his life, to have been a part of the most important Martial Arts film ever made, the most profitable one too. Saying, "Oh, I beat Bruce Lee. All these other guys can beat him too." That's the head shaking moment and walk away. You don't have to disrespect someone else, in order to elevate yourself. Please, don't be like Michael Jai White. Thanks, for the video, Viking Samurai, but as I've mentioned, this is getting old. TERRANCE OUT
@davefletch3063
@davefletch3063 Жыл бұрын
Vic Moore is full of it. He spent too much time around Count chocula, I mean dante
@kbreeze6969
@kbreeze6969 Жыл бұрын
I agree Terrance, now everyone, and their grandma’s is whipping Bruce’s behind.Have some respect people…. He’s been gone since 1973.
@Sldumas1983
@Sldumas1983 Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂 I know cap
@Battle_One
@Battle_One Жыл бұрын
😂😂
@n.b.l.5709
@n.b.l.5709 Жыл бұрын
Bruce lee aint beat ish and was no master
@Arminius420
@Arminius420 Жыл бұрын
It doesn't matter though Bruce isn't here to defend himself anymore. Lets just leave the Legend alone.
@carlobella1850
@carlobella1850 Жыл бұрын
Bruce Lee was an actor. This guy was a real professional fighter and world champion. It doesn’t mean Bruce Lee was not a real martial artist but to not believe in actual world champion who beat people like bill. Super foot Wallace is absurd a TV record it means nothing for Hollywood movies a real fighter his record matters so that should be the end of it. It shouldn’t even matter.
@Arminius420
@Arminius420 Жыл бұрын
@@carlobella1850 True, but Bruce was a martial art activist I mean he was for teaching martial arts to everyone who wanted to learn. He was more than just an actor.
@carlobella1850
@carlobella1850 Жыл бұрын
@@Arminius420 sure and I believe he was a real martial artist in general but these guys were world champion fighters it’s insulting to them they have evidence not just stories or watching me in the movie. Do you see what I’m saying? It’s retarded people who don’t know anything about fighting say stuff like this.
@kungfew1396
@kungfew1396 Жыл бұрын
@@carlobella1850 He won his professional H.S boxing championship undefeated, fought rooftop gang Street fights, he adapted to full body gear to fight the same as any other professional fighter did.
@mattk5020
@mattk5020 Жыл бұрын
@@carlobella1850 Bruce Lee was a REAL Martial Artist and acted but he was the real deal.
@hugo9618
@hugo9618 Жыл бұрын
Is Bruce Lee the greatest fighter ever? I have no idea but I do know he punched a dent in the universe and people will still be talking about him for many generations to come
@jeraldmcclainofficial6005
@jeraldmcclainofficial6005 Жыл бұрын
You know you're a bad man when people attack your legacy 50 years after you die.
@FlipArt57
@FlipArt57 Жыл бұрын
I have to agree with you. But it opens up mainly about styles. Whats not healthy in these moments are "Haters" with one liners. And quiet frankly both should be respected for being in that historical event.
@MaineDinero313
@MaineDinero313 Жыл бұрын
Yep
@jmurrayathletics
@jmurrayathletics Жыл бұрын
Bad actor? Bad influence? Maybe. Bad a$$ nah, dude couldnt fight his way outta a paper bag 😂
@jameswest981
@jameswest981 Жыл бұрын
I know I had no I idea so many didn't respect or acknowledged Bruce's skill and talent.
@robbirobson7330
@robbirobson7330 Жыл бұрын
@@jameswest981 its a difference if you are an actor or athlete or a real fighter
@clarencehendricks8564
@clarencehendricks8564 7 ай бұрын
And much "Respect " to Victor Moore legend and Grand Master 🙌
@henriksange5935
@henriksange5935 Жыл бұрын
Vic Moore is the black mans frank dux. A real martial arts champion like chuck norris, bill Wallace, Joe Lewis would never talk about how good they are, or who they can beat. I'm 59 and have practice martial art since 1976,and no what impact Bruce Lee has done on martial arts all over the world since his death. Nobody in Europe knows who vic moore is. He is thinking too much of him self.
@polol1683
@polol1683 Жыл бұрын
Sorry ,iam german and i now Vic Moore for many years 😄
@Battle_One
@Battle_One Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@Motorsportsinjapan
@Motorsportsinjapan Жыл бұрын
Chuck Norris did, a lot...
@TerenceSpencerYT
@TerenceSpencerYT Жыл бұрын
For sure Vic was a very good competitor in his time/prime in Karate. Have good words for Chuck Norris. And says Frank Dux have real good fightimg abilities, trained together! We all know (i did wing chun and other MA) distance! If you feel oppenent will not have the right distance you don't block, if than last split second! So, Vic is a nice guy and knows Bruce make his selfselling tricks and laugh(but with time get a little p#€@ off I think)... - cause wrong distance!
@Sldumas1983
@Sldumas1983 Жыл бұрын
😂unfortunately true😂😂😂
@Labrador1000
@Labrador1000 Жыл бұрын
Bruce was not invincible. And of course he could be beaten like any other human being. But Vic did not block Bruce’s strikes. Look at the videoproof out there.
@johnnyguitar6639
@johnnyguitar6639 Жыл бұрын
A very good & reasonable point. Grounded in reality.
@FlipArt57
@FlipArt57 Жыл бұрын
Demonstration is not important, what is important is can Bruce Lee really spar? Yes! Bruce Lee beat a traditional Kung Fu master because of a modified style. Even in those days if you spar a Wing Chun guy you will get tangled up before you use TKD or Boxing to beat them. No. I think a Mix of a kicking art and a short arm Kung Fu style can defeat Lee sparring. But not this guy and a hand full of prehistoric Karate guys. at the time.
@terrygrubb9477
@terrygrubb9477 Жыл бұрын
No body could beat Bruce lee
@Labrador1000
@Labrador1000 Жыл бұрын
@@terrygrubb9477 Of course he could be beaten, he was just a human being. But he would be a tough opponent.
@waltersimmons946
@waltersimmons946 Жыл бұрын
@KasperBS84 If anybody could beat Bruce Lee , it wouldn't have been those "champions." Love Lee or hate him, he made them look like amateurs. Sorry, but that's the truth.
@Bitmapspritepaul
@Bitmapspritepaul Жыл бұрын
He never blocked Bruce’s strike! Unbelievable, look at the actual footage and vic’s reaction to it.
@otisstevenson2066
@otisstevenson2066 Жыл бұрын
His pride won't allow him to admit that Bruce lee was greater than him..just like many other dishonest martial Artists..
@The_Kirk_Lazarus
@The_Kirk_Lazarus Жыл бұрын
Exactly. Bruce could have dropped him before he even realized it had happened.
@otisstevenson2066
@otisstevenson2066 Жыл бұрын
Victor moore..you must learn to block ..or Bruce Lee speed will always overcome you..
@juliohurtado6015
@juliohurtado6015 Жыл бұрын
Vic Moore u trippn 😂😂
@MrBeckenhimself
@MrBeckenhimself Жыл бұрын
You must be blind. He DID block you can see it clear as day. That other punch Bruce threw wasn't even close to hitting him and don't pretend like it doesn't matter, because it DOES matter. He was no where close to hitting him with that punch. You Bruce Lee fanboys have a special kind of delusion going on.
@mrt445
@mrt445 Жыл бұрын
This guy has been obsessed with Bruce Lee for most of his life. Every time he talks about Bruce he makes up new stories.
@iluvcliffrichard
@iluvcliffrichard Жыл бұрын
True, Vic moore hoped he could be the one karate guy that could tame bruce lee and it rankles him to this day that he couldnt, and that he's just a statistic and notch on Bruce's belt, is soul destroying for such a proud karateman.
@mrt445
@mrt445 Жыл бұрын
@@iluvcliffrichard Interesting how he has no witnesses to his sparring session that he claimed were filmed. Now he's saying that Bruce cried and claimed he was too fast and the best karate guy his ever seen. He's told this same story for over 30 years and not once did he say Bruce cried until now, lol
@iluvcliffrichard
@iluvcliffrichard Жыл бұрын
@mr t I think bruce said Jim Kelly had fastest backfist of any American. Yes Vic story changing everytime. Wow, bruce crying. Next vic will be saying bruce was kow towing at vics feet.
@davidsmith-uw2ci
@davidsmith-uw2ci Жыл бұрын
He is probably still salty that he couldn't block those punches lol
@dobi287
@dobi287 Жыл бұрын
Obsessed How when he was asked
@judocc
@judocc Жыл бұрын
Being a martial artist from the 60's onward I am a little skeptical of some of the statements but it was an entertaining interview.
@inatrance92SK
@inatrance92SK Жыл бұрын
Too bad Bruce isn't around to speak up on his own behalf. If what Vic says is true, why didn't he come forward when Bruce was alive? Vic is like Frank Dux. Viking Samurai thank you for taking this interview and being non-biased.
@Ming1975
@Ming1975 Жыл бұрын
Yup, also why at the time most of the karate and kick boxing champs have confirmed Bruce is fast and hits hard, even if Bruce might lose to them but they aren't willing to fight bruce because the stakes of loosing to a amateur boxer/street fighter is too high to risk. This guy saying he could beat everyone says something. 🤔
@TheHailstorm77
@TheHailstorm77 Жыл бұрын
@@Ming1975yup and Vic is one of the old former Karate and they end up 200 lbs like a fat walrus that is constantly eating. 20 Big Macs. How are you a grandmaster looking like that? He mentioned Ed Parker right? Look for the video of Ed Parker who brought Kenpo from HAWAII to California. He said that nobody who he knew could be fast as Bruce Lee and could touch him. Vic is one of those that exaggerate and lies and stop learning Karate. Look at Chuck Norris compared to him. Look at old Taekwondo grand masters. They don’t even look fat.
@JiAltoGabiXiuChaz
@JiAltoGabiXiuChaz Жыл бұрын
Bruce is not a fighter
@JiAltoGabiXiuChaz
@JiAltoGabiXiuChaz Жыл бұрын
U ppl love bruce lee to death
@JiAltoGabiXiuChaz
@JiAltoGabiXiuChaz Жыл бұрын
Bruce is piece of shit Bruce lee is not a fighter u ppl won't understand what a fighter is
@JosephelLeon
@JosephelLeon Жыл бұрын
I personally have little to no respect towards any "man" who talks about another man who can no longer defend himself. Great video as usual.
@polol1683
@polol1683 Жыл бұрын
Oh what about Hitler !?! 😁
@Battle_One
@Battle_One Жыл бұрын
@@polol1683 🤔
@budgiecat9039
@budgiecat9039 Жыл бұрын
@@polol1683 what about the millions Hitler killed and talked bad about that couldnt defend themselves?
@polol1683
@polol1683 Жыл бұрын
@@budgiecat9039 what does this have to do with my question 🤨??
@budgiecat9039
@budgiecat9039 Жыл бұрын
@@polol1683 It has everything to do with your question. Sometimes in life the only answer to a question is to ask it with another question especially if your question is questionable does that answer your question?
@rnkmode1876
@rnkmode1876 Жыл бұрын
So how come Joe Lewis, Chuck Norris, Bill Wallace andJim Kelly have never said anything to confirm any of what this man is saying? Joe Lewis said Bruce was better then everyone. I remember watching that on KZbin. 🤔 just wondering
@oldskool8441
@oldskool8441 Жыл бұрын
Everyone knows all associated with the BDFS are self appointed grandmasters.
@tiffanystevens3595
@tiffanystevens3595 Жыл бұрын
This only further validates how much they truly hated Bruce, all because of the fact that he was very skilled, and he could back it up. Vic Moore got embarrassed by Bruce at the tournament in which he claims this bizarre fiasco took place! I'm so tired of individuals hating and lying on him, when they know that this wouldn't be occuring had he lived!
@thereviewartistrrp5493
@thereviewartistrrp5493 Жыл бұрын
I seen the same video
@nunosantos00
@nunosantos00 Жыл бұрын
Everytime someone talks about beating Bruce Lee even on sparring it triggers huge discussions on KZbin.
@mauricebrocklehurst2358
@mauricebrocklehurst2358 Жыл бұрын
This guy's more Delusional than a dementia patient, he's right up there with Frank Dux, Steven seagal and Michael j white.
@crisisblack
@crisisblack Жыл бұрын
This is perhaps the best Vic Moore video I've ever seen. Now what would be great is if you are able to interview any of the men he mentioned and able to allow then to speak on their recollection of some of the events Moore spoke on.
@1Stevenc
@1Stevenc Жыл бұрын
Vic said in Bruce's movies he was fast, but not in person. He said Bruce was a movie star at the time in 1967, at the time of the speed test and sparring match. Bruce's first movie didn't come out till 1971! Vic Moore is a old demented story teller.
@NickStace-hk6wc
@NickStace-hk6wc Жыл бұрын
Bruce lee embarrassed vic moore and he wont let it go.
@counterstrike89
@counterstrike89 Жыл бұрын
That's what I'm thinking, because all the guys he's claiming would beat Bruce, most all of them said how good Bruce Lee was, Mike Stone never said he'd beat Bruce Lee, said the opposite.
@johndistefano1272
@johndistefano1272 Жыл бұрын
I believe this guy he is very credible
@whatnonya8950
@whatnonya8950 Жыл бұрын
Plus he gets paid to talk about a dead guy who can't defend himself
@tylerbia6515
@tylerbia6515 Жыл бұрын
Jim Kelly said it best. Bruce Lee was untouchable. This Old Fart knocker is just full of lies.
@tylerbia6515
@tylerbia6515 Жыл бұрын
I’ll bet if Bruce was still alive this old Fart wouldn’t be saying this.
@Sparta7
@Sparta7 Жыл бұрын
At the time of that tournament lee wasn't a movie star
@wpn-k8d
@wpn-k8d 9 ай бұрын
he was a celebrity
@judocc
@judocc Жыл бұрын
One more thing. If he actually sparred with Bruce Lee and there were cameras as he stated. Hell, that would have blown up the internet years ago!! I don't think it happened. Just Sayin
@Mr23748
@Mr23748 Жыл бұрын
It NEVER HAPPENED
@josecamacho755
@josecamacho755 Жыл бұрын
Man he's comes right out of a comic book
@judocc
@judocc Жыл бұрын
@@josecamacho755 I love the reference. True movie buff...
@michaeljones-um8sn
@michaeljones-um8sn Жыл бұрын
@@judocc Vic Moore said a while back that Bruce Lee Estate has the footage and Ed Parker JR the son of Ed Parker SR confirms this
@johncarroll772
@johncarroll772 Жыл бұрын
​@michael jones where is the evidence of this claim
@tmoney3862
@tmoney3862 Жыл бұрын
Vic Moore is the only one I hear tell this version of events including the sparring match.
@caiusmadison2996
@caiusmadison2996 Жыл бұрын
Exactly. Odd man out, is a liar.
@DavidHughesKJN
@DavidHughesKJN Жыл бұрын
National level competitor Steve Sanders who was there has backed him up in this. I don’t know if this particular story from Moore is accurate or not, but he is right about the speed test and the undoctored version of the video proves that. kzbin.info/www/bejne/m2PPiYaem96kgZY
@lamarravery4094
@lamarravery4094 Жыл бұрын
He couldn't beat the legendary Bruce Lee. No one could, he's Bruce fuckin Lee!
@donaldwest8130
@donaldwest8130 Жыл бұрын
@@lamarravery4094 Ali or Tyson would drop Bruce Lee in under a minute.
@michaeljones-um8sn
@michaeljones-um8sn Жыл бұрын
@@DavidHughesKJN a guy named Peter Porter a karate guy said Vic Moore won. Super Foot Wallace is still alive , someone should ask him or Chuck Norris
@soulbrother3299
@soulbrother3299 3 ай бұрын
Vic has NO REASON TO LIE! Look at the video. Proof! Mr Moore! With respect.
@bmcarpetcleaningandfloorca4410
@bmcarpetcleaningandfloorca4410 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting interview. I didn’t realize Vic Moore was so controversial to be honest. I’ve seen his other interviews, and it was nothing like this. His recounting of events are different than the previous ones. Vic Moore seems a little bitter! Great interview, Viking!
@change9929
@change9929 Жыл бұрын
I believe it was Bruce who said,"anybody can beat anybody.It depends on the circumstances".😮
@tee_tow
@tee_tow Жыл бұрын
Soon Steven Seagal is gonna say he taught Bruce Lee a lesson 😂😂
@kirkmarshall2853
@kirkmarshall2853 Жыл бұрын
He did, on this channel, and I don’t for a second believe anything that comes out of his mouth. Steven Seagal is not a martial arts, he’s a con man who can’t act. I’ve met several “aikido masters” but none of them could ever work any of their moves on me unless I slowed down to a crawl and let them or attacked off to their side. Doesn’t seem that effective in the real world.
@francdubois7832
@francdubois7832 Жыл бұрын
@@kirkmarshall2853 Yup 😂
@brianroman4114
@brianroman4114 Жыл бұрын
@@kirkmarshall2853 Segal is a pathological liar with an unbelievable ego.... but he is extremely proficient in functional combat. He's a master in the style of aikijutsu. Even advanced Aikido doesn't employ those violent techniques or trapping movements. That's aikijutsu my man. Huge difference. He's also incorporates other arts over the years. I'm sorry you should probably rewatch some of his fight scenes again or his demonstrations. He uses practical techniques & understands good footwork & distance. Thinking he's just some aikido movie guy with no understanding of combat is not real. Look at his trapping technique whether it's hand to hand or with weapons is mo different from . A Filipino soldier using Kali on the beaches to slaughter the Spanish on the beaches. Or just any advanced marine CQC training involves the exact same trapping you see in the dozens of Segals shitty films. That's why it amazes me that he feels the need to lie. He already has stuff to feel good about himself for. No need to pretend the founder of aikido (student of aikijutsu founder) was your teacher
@kirkmarshall2853
@kirkmarshall2853 Жыл бұрын
@@brianroman4114 every one of his demos I’ve seen had the attacker going slow or attacking off to his side. His movie scenes are choreographed like all movie fight scenes and don’t actually count for anything. I’ve also trained in Aikido for a year and a half at a very traditional place, they never once did sparring or pressure training. It was always repeating the same maneuvers at a very slow pace. Yes some of the hand trapping techniques are useful in combat situations but are so hard to pull off there are far better options like Judo techniques or striking your opponent to the ground with rapid fire Chinese boxing punches.
@brianroman4114
@brianroman4114 Жыл бұрын
@@kirkmarshall2853 you didn't read what I wrote. I agree. Aikido is useless. He's a master in aikijutsu. Traditional aikido at advanced level is still terrible combat. It's only good if you're already highly trained in effective combat & the goal is balancing trying to hurt your opponent as little as possible while defeating them. Like the creator of aikido was. But teaching it to everyday people is bad advice. It doesn't work. And of course it's to demonstrate. But regardless of whether has it slowed down or students let him apply it so it looks better, he's literally using the same techniques you use in training military. What demos are you watching? He champions aikido but doesn't use it in most of his films or demos. He's used other practical arts & uses **those** techniques in his films & demonstrations. So I don't even know what you're disagreeing with. He's a phony but he's knowledgeable & proficient. What you're saying doesn't argue against that
@kibitzwithnickstolper
@kibitzwithnickstolper Жыл бұрын
Here is the unedited footage of what happened that day in Long Beach. Notice around 2:50 after Bruce Lee throws his last punch (Vic failed to Block) they shook hands and Vic Moore went back to his seat. Everyone I spoke with, that was there that day says Vic didnt block any of Bruce's punches (this footage proves that) and that Vic never threw any punches at Bruce, that was not part of the demo. kzbin.info/www/bejne/j3mrgnlniK17gtk
@jonathanrayne
@jonathanrayne Жыл бұрын
Wow, thanks for that footage!
@silentassassin7175
@silentassassin7175 Жыл бұрын
This gets so old, as many of the GREATS say said and continue to say. He was untouchable, have a great day everyone
@jj-wp6wc
@jj-wp6wc Жыл бұрын
Untouchable without a legit fight record. He might have still been untouchable, but I think the debate continues because of the mystery.
@googlemyself4091
@googlemyself4091 Жыл бұрын
Lol you know what gets old? Morons who think a actor who had zero bouts was a legit fighter.
@Aron-desieabebe
@Aron-desieabebe Жыл бұрын
​​@@jj-wp6wcoe budden thought he can beat Bruce Lee when does it end😂
@gundomatumba191
@gundomatumba191 Жыл бұрын
That fight with Kareem Abdul-Jabbar in Game Of Death was so amazing and difficult. Bruce is like 5' 7" and Kareem is like 7' 2".
@TheHailstorm77
@TheHailstorm77 Жыл бұрын
Find the interview of Kareem Abdul Jabbar talking about his rabbit chase with Bruce.
@gundomatumba191
@gundomatumba191 Жыл бұрын
@@TheHailstorm77 Thanks mate, on it.🔥
@rapmeister1000
@rapmeister1000 Жыл бұрын
Umm……those heights are way exaggerated. Lee=5’ 8”. Jabar=7’ 2”.
@gundomatumba191
@gundomatumba191 Жыл бұрын
@@rapmeister1000 It was just a guess, that's why I said "like." XD
@davidsteinberg2120
@davidsteinberg2120 Жыл бұрын
Now we know from his own mouth that Kareem had the greatest respect for Bruce his mental capacity his will his strength and especially his speed and performance, even trained with him personally that is all common knowledge, but surely you realize it's a movie and they didn't actually fight...
@RWAC685
@RWAC685 Жыл бұрын
Bruce Lee Is The Best.
@terminatorT-
@terminatorT- Жыл бұрын
amen
@seanhaynes4246
@seanhaynes4246 Жыл бұрын
Best fighter on flim
@garyconner6151
@garyconner6151 Жыл бұрын
This man is dreaming he could never beat Bruce on his worst day.
@seanhaynes4246
@seanhaynes4246 Жыл бұрын
@@garyconner6151 you watch to many movies😄😂..I know Bruce is your idol but you have to take as factual just as the others stories we hear that enhance him..but one thing is clear this guy fought and won a lot of competitions while Bruce won fights base on movie scripts
@adamm311
@adamm311 Жыл бұрын
OMG 🤣🤣 LYING old man... He is truly Pitiful.
@thecounselorace621
@thecounselorace621 Жыл бұрын
How do you know if he is lying, you weren't there,you people just caught up in his movies, kis correct in saying Bruce didn't compete in compecompetitions, fighters know you is only as good is the people you beat in real competitions, vic Morrow is a grandmaster, he should know, Mikael Jai White fights in competitions, he should know, see you have to give weight to the people who are in the sport, it's like if you are trying to tell a person in his field of choice who is better at that skill, how would you know if you are not a martial artist at all.
@counterstrike89
@counterstrike89 Жыл бұрын
@@thecounselorace621 Because most of those champions of that time say the complete opposite about Bruce Lee, including Mike Stone.
@007jojobear
@007jojobear 4 ай бұрын
They can say anything they want because Bruce is not here to defend himself,
@jedsteelwell2354
@jedsteelwell2354 Жыл бұрын
Bruce was so popular in the Martial arts community that you never know what's true and what's not but of course there's guys that would have beat Bruce nobody is unbeatable
@kenkongermany7860
@kenkongermany7860 Жыл бұрын
Yep. We only know, that he never competed after his one boxing tournament against amateurs.
@mrt4085
@mrt4085 Жыл бұрын
The ONLY men that could actually beat the Master is a Native American Warrior. Men that the legend himself studied and mimics the sounds of these great Warriors!
@terrygrubb9477
@terrygrubb9477 Жыл бұрын
Bruce lee could not be beat live with that
@kenkongermany7860
@kenkongermany7860 Жыл бұрын
@@terrygrubb9477Yes. He was the only person that could not be beat(en). Or die.
@neutron7077
@neutron7077 Жыл бұрын
@@mrt4085 Who the hell is the Native American Warrior?
@arthurbrown2075
@arthurbrown2075 Жыл бұрын
I can't understand being called a Bruce Lee fanboy then some of you should be called hateboys can't wait to put Bruce down but we also need our haters to keep Bruce alive so thanks to all of you fanboys or hateboys we need each other to keep him alive . In this new world Bruce would have videos of his fights nothing today goes without being captured if you are drowning you have 20 people with cameras and no one helping
@ericrecano8557
@ericrecano8557 Жыл бұрын
Here’s where Vic Moore’s story doesn’t match….literally every major champion on the circuit from Joe Louis, Mike Stone, Chuck Norris, Louis Delagado ,Jim Kelley, Bob Wall all said Bruce was Unbelievabke in sparring. Jim Kelly is on record saying he KNOWS all the champs Bruce had sparred with -and without mentioning any names out of respect for said men…Bruce was phenomenal. Vic Moore seems to be the only one of that time period that seems to think otherwise-
@outofthebox7
@outofthebox7 Жыл бұрын
They are afraid of going against an icon, an idol. Lee was nothing as a fighter against trained people.
@mudejartrainingnaturalscie6938
@mudejartrainingnaturalscie6938 Жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/q3O8amt4odyFpK8
@ericrecano8557
@ericrecano8557 Жыл бұрын
But Bruce Lee wasn’t even that big yet-why would Feared fighters on the circuit like Mike Stone and Joe Lewis seek instruction from a 127 llb Little Chinese man? This wasn’t on camera for people to see -this was in private. Surely they wouldn’t do this is Lee was ‘nothing’ as you so put it.
@outofthebox7
@outofthebox7 Жыл бұрын
@@ericrecano8557 Lee was very intelligent, ahead of his time, that is why artists said good things about him. This on its own does not make him a capable fighter. I do not believe that sparring settles all things, it's a game. As a fighter, only a real fight, not one with restrictions in a ring, would prove his level. So we have no proof. Lewis would beat his butt all over the place, they all would.
@ericrecano8557
@ericrecano8557 Жыл бұрын
I agree with you …BUT for hEBeST fighter of the day to come to him for instruction…he HAD to have had something. The best fighters aren’t Going to waste their time training with somebody that has nothing to offer. And in order For fighters like these Men to do that… rice Lee would have had to have SHOWED them Something that impressed them…no bullshit-no flash…just Something REAL. U cannot Tell me otherwise..it’s just logical.
@paulpolpiboon9535
@paulpolpiboon9535 Жыл бұрын
I really appreciate you producing this video, and I like what you did here V.Samurai. You're allowing him to contradict himself against the factual footage, thereby publicly showing his delusion. Yet you are actually not trying to really out him, you're listening eagerly and giving him a giant sincere chance to explain himself or give us anything reasonable. You really allowed him every opportunity to freely say anything significant that we might've missed and hear his side of the story and the stage was all his. V.Samurai you're actually quite professional lol, you know what you're doing and you know how to deal with people and read them while being fair. @14:20 Officially Norris beat him yet moore here is claiming he was cheated. @23:23 Officially Jim Harrison beat him yet moore here is claiming he was cheated. Well alrighty then
@mat..n.7061
@mat..n.7061 Жыл бұрын
lol very well said.
@marvinj1000
@marvinj1000 Жыл бұрын
I wish Bruce Lee was still live I wonder if people will still disrespect him
@AccountantProOT
@AccountantProOT Жыл бұрын
I dont believe it was a disrespect. Bruce Lee is an icon, but when have to remember that he was still a man.
@otisstevenson2066
@otisstevenson2066 Жыл бұрын
They wouldn't..
@20FreeWill
@20FreeWill Жыл бұрын
@Rick Torres of course he was a man , but some people say he is a punch bag , some people think he is a superhero , Including Jackie chan who used those words , some people are just saying he's legit enough to deserve his status (me) , he definitely had a lot of confidence or spirit, some people don't like that , Bruce seemed like a serious dude I don't think he was really egotistical. He was probably elite of the elite in Hong Kong which is where he's from then met different styles and physicality in America but he remained a student of the martial arts . Don't forget HE WAS a movie star , hasn't just a reckless fighter . Some people probably hating on that too
@victornovak8558
@victornovak8558 Жыл бұрын
Connor McGregor would own this China girl.
@otisstevenson2066
@otisstevenson2066 Жыл бұрын
Conor mcgregor is good..But Bruce Lee was incredible..
@prjkd
@prjkd Жыл бұрын
I don’t always talk shit about Bruce but when I do I wait until he’s dead and can’t come embarrass me like he did in arena full of witnesses
@UTFapollomarine7409
@UTFapollomarine7409 Жыл бұрын
yea we got the footage Bruce Lee killed him
@BaseBasvic
@BaseBasvic Жыл бұрын
That’s good SHT…😆
@flykyrt81
@flykyrt81 Жыл бұрын
Lol! I read that part as "...arena full of whiteness" lol!
@hangingwithbigjohn8401
@hangingwithbigjohn8401 Жыл бұрын
"Stay delusional my friends" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@n.b.l.5709
@n.b.l.5709 Жыл бұрын
Fjnny how bruce went to these events and didnt fight challenge anyone to orove himself...just his own students with gear on
@charlesseabrooks4751
@charlesseabrooks4751 Жыл бұрын
I'm sick of these people saying that they can beat Bruce Lee, why won't they let Bruce Lee rest in peace.😊
@GLASSGHOSTHUNTERS
@GLASSGHOSTHUNTERS Жыл бұрын
Vic has changed this story so many times, it's hard to keep up. In another interview from around a decade ago, he said he blocked the first 2 punches, then glanced away and Bruce then threw the 3rd punch. Vic said he swatted at it, because he thought it was funny that Bruce would throw a sudden face punch after the first one's were chest punches. Then he apparently asked Bruce to block 3 of his punches and said Bruce only blocked the 3rd. Then he talked about them sparring afterwards and Bruce telling him that he was the fastest American he ever saw. But.... that's not what happened in the video at all. After Bruce's 3 punches, Vic laughs, bows, shakes his hand and then exits the floor. Also, according to a 1998 program called "Masters of the Martial Arts", hosted by Wesley Snipes, the narrator says Bruce said Steve Muhammed(Sanders) had the fastest hands alive. Lastly, Bruce was a TV star in 1967. Not a movie star. He did television shows starting in 1966 with The Green Hornet. He also appeared in Longstreet and Marlowe. The Bog Boss didn't come out until the 70s. Bruce's film career before that was as a child actor in Hong Kong. Vic was a champion. Yes. Vic was fast, yes. Vic also is the hero in every story he tells. He makes himself out to be almost superhuman. He lost to Chuck Norris, but doesn't bring that up without saying he actually beat Chuck. That's Chuck being humble to Vic. Doesn't really talk about his defeats. He was even featured in a video called Vic Moore: The Man Who Beat Them All. Yikes.... I think Vic didn't get the same recognition that other black martial artists like Thomas Lapuppet, Chaka Zulu, Moses Powell, Steve Sanders, Jim Kelly and a few others did. And for the last decade or so, he's been giving interviews and coming out as the mysterious and unstoppable fighter that even Bruce Lee feared. The ego is what kills me here. I haven't even seen Vic give an interview in street clothes. It's as if his marital arts legacy matters so greatly to him that he won't appear without his Karate gi and belt for fear you'll forget he's a 10th Dan and a champion. Yeah, it all comes across as bitterness that you can practically taste through the screen.
@davefletch3063
@davefletch3063 Жыл бұрын
He approaches dux level delusion
@undinism69
@undinism69 Жыл бұрын
It's probably why he didn't get recognition like the others, his personality and other stuff also matters and people probably just didn't like him who interacted with him.
@robd1329
@robd1329 Жыл бұрын
Hes at that grandpa age where they love to tell everyone to gather around for an exciting story
@Pat6670
@Pat6670 Жыл бұрын
He called Bruce Lee’s art Jeet KWAN Do…Vic is a pathological liar and an idiot.
@flykyrt81
@flykyrt81 Жыл бұрын
@Robd1 "Huhey kids, come gather 'round the fire and let me tell you about the time I beat Bruce Lee, and SAVED America!"
@anthonycastaneda7767
@anthonycastaneda7767 Жыл бұрын
These is the guy Jim Kelly was talking about hahaha “man ur out a comic book “
@markross7385
@markross7385 Жыл бұрын
One of the guys. Chuck is another
@jorgeestevez948
@jorgeestevez948 Жыл бұрын
I find it HILARIOUS that someone says "Vic Moore had his hands down" when Bruce Lee moved in......yeah from six fee away!! Truth is all of us 60-70 year people remember that in those days There was no full contact Sparring. At that time when Bruce Lee and his students engaged in full gear Sparring, in front of the audince, it was UNHEARD OF. Point sparring was the name of the game in those days, which is why Bruce Lee believed that a Boxer or wrestler could beat most Martial artisits. Full contact did not begin in the USA until the 70s by which time Brbuce lee was fully engaged in Movies. I dont think Bruce Lee was a god, but he was amazing, every generation produces certain special people. Michael Jordan, Floyd Mayweather, Muhammed Ali, Michael Jackson and Bruce Lee.
@carldzoga1348
@carldzoga1348 Жыл бұрын
Yea, I'm sure be blocked Bruce's strikes.... With his face, chest, kidneys, stomach.... 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@carldzoga1348
@carldzoga1348 Жыл бұрын
@jpssteveshanahan 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@bongjamesbong00420
@bongjamesbong00420 Жыл бұрын
It's easy to discredit someone when they're not around. Impressive.
@Omniblade_Gaming
@Omniblade_Gaming Жыл бұрын
This just makes me want the good ol days of martial arts to come back, the genuine love for the arts is not what it use to be
@Trick-Framed
@Trick-Framed Жыл бұрын
That is a perspective. The traditionalists and the noblest of martial artists are still among us. Martial arts has exploded so that so many people practice that it's sometimes hard to see it but if you go out and look. Genuinely, physically go look and train with others, you will find the real deal.
@mrt445
@mrt445 Жыл бұрын
MMA has made martial arts more popular now than it ever was.
@Omniblade_Gaming
@Omniblade_Gaming Жыл бұрын
@@mrt445 in a way but then you have individuals who think certain styles are superior but only towards the octagon
@Trick-Framed
@Trick-Framed Жыл бұрын
@@mrt445 I attribute it to population growth. Purely. The fads and trends come and go but the soul never fades. If you seek you will find.
@jman8368
@jman8368 Жыл бұрын
@@mrt445 MMA is a bunch of arrogant thugs.
@tonyedge540
@tonyedge540 Жыл бұрын
you know Bruce Lee wasn't even in his prime yet he was still discovering him self
@Bartron_Flat_Earth
@Bartron_Flat_Earth Жыл бұрын
But thig guy is lying anyways 😆
@nostradamus522
@nostradamus522 Жыл бұрын
@@Bartron_Flat_Earth Think from him can both learn, Dux and Segal ! He comes in Uniform to the interview, a Veteran Fighter 😂😂😂
@Rubrick23.
@Rubrick23. Жыл бұрын
Segal isn't fake. The fact you all think he is because of the clown vicking warrior is funny.
@GranmastaChenChekka
@GranmastaChenChekka Жыл бұрын
I mean no harm to vic moore, but looking at his current condition and knowing the lifestyle of an martial artist, there is no way I could really take a word he says seriously. The footage speaks for itself. Bruce Lee was damn near out of kicking range throwing that punch and Moore still had a late reaction time. He like other traditional practictioners still have resentment for Bruce Lee even after his death
@GranmastaChenChekka
@GranmastaChenChekka Жыл бұрын
And @VikingSamurai I like your work, but this dude (Master) Moore and his followers are one of the first to put me on to trolling and click baiting 😂
@VikingSamurai
@VikingSamurai Жыл бұрын
Lol
@ransomedavis2208
@ransomedavis2208 Жыл бұрын
very true.
@informativeclassics
@informativeclassics Жыл бұрын
In all do respect to the grandmaster 🙏. Bruce was not a movie star in 1967. It wasn’t until after that event that he was offered the role to play Kato. Therefore, that was cap 🧢. People need to do more research and stop listening to emotional responses.
@aetius2277
@aetius2277 Жыл бұрын
Great video how did i miss this ? lol just seeing it now . If its true its not disrespectful , its the history . Weither or not bruce got bested by someone doesnt take anything away from bruce lee that we love . There is no ufc fighter that stays in there long enough and doesnt lose lol its a natural part of the game . Who can truly call them selves a master if they never had to learn from losing . The gracies lost all the greats lost and used it to make their system better . How could bruce be a master if he has never lost ?Agreat video is chuck norris being asked about who would win between him and bruce his reply was chuck was many time full contact champion bruce was a actor . Nothing takes away bruce brought martial arts to the world his philsophy is seen in all mma competitions today . Bruce was a pioneer he will always be loved , The history wont change that
@The_Kirk_Lazarus
@The_Kirk_Lazarus Жыл бұрын
Bruce's speed and reaction time counter anything Mr. Moore says about being able to beat him or having had beaten him.
@MrBeckenhimself
@MrBeckenhimself Жыл бұрын
No it doesn't. Bruce Lee was only faster than light in his fanboys heads. In reality he was fast but not faster than everybody who ever lived.
@johnnyguitar6639
@johnnyguitar6639 Жыл бұрын
@@MrBeckenhimself True.But here we're talking video evidence
@MrBeckenhimself
@MrBeckenhimself Жыл бұрын
@@johnnyguitar6639 And the evidence shows that Bruce was miles away from hitting Moore so...
@johnnyguitar6639
@johnnyguitar6639 Жыл бұрын
@@MrBeckenhimself I think you have misunderstood. It wasn't supposed to make contact..It was about if the guy could block it or not. Making contact was never the intention.
@johnnyguitar6639
@johnnyguitar6639 Жыл бұрын
@@MrBeckenhimself No the evidence show he can't. Sad to say,this guy is just as phony as Frank Dux
@lordluvsme9378
@lordluvsme9378 Жыл бұрын
They are people who saw them spare and there is others at long Beach who saw the whole thing ❤
@SuperJuniorquintero
@SuperJuniorquintero Жыл бұрын
Sounds like Michael Jai White before Michael Jai White ever existed.
@Pat6670
@Pat6670 Жыл бұрын
Both are delusional ego maniacs
@SuperJuniorquintero
@SuperJuniorquintero Жыл бұрын
@@Pat6670 yeah exactly
@jasonrelech1020
@jasonrelech1020 Жыл бұрын
I believe vic Moore 1million times. His legendary feat beside what he claimed here, he beats up Mcdonald, Jack in the box, Carl junior twice in one day.
@banshwa
@banshwa Жыл бұрын
No offense to Master Moore but having Bruce Lee beat him in a demonstration of speed is not a reason to have his pride hurt. It was not a fight. In a demonstration the demonstrator sets up the scenario to benefit the demonstration. I love Bruce Lee and his philosophy. I see that moment for what it was, a psychological trick to make the punch seem faster than it already was. Bruce Lee used one of his own principles to his advantage; do not think, do. He made Master Moore have to think before he moved and he was flat footed. Bruce Lee punched when he wanted to punch in a way he had practiced hundreds of times allowing the punch to be more fluid and natural. Master Moore had to think how to move because all he could use was his arm which isn't how he would normally handle that situation. There is a lesson on manipulating the mind of the opponent in that demonstration and the importance of training to be able to act without thought.
@tangomantactical
@tangomantactical Жыл бұрын
Can we travel to the multiverse and settle this for once and all?
@mauricebrocklehurst2358
@mauricebrocklehurst2358 Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣
@speelshare
@speelshare Жыл бұрын
Yessss
@knightrider6473
@knightrider6473 Жыл бұрын
Whats a multiverse?
@tangomantactical
@tangomantactical Жыл бұрын
Infinite basically. There is a # tho..
@bssstphn
@bssstphn Жыл бұрын
Vic Moore is talking about a 1964 Bruce Lee conducting a demonstration. Bruce was evolving monthly, according to Dan Inosanto, all those guys Mike Stone, Chuck Norris and Joe Lewis were trained by Bruce. Actually Joe Lewis credits Bruce with changing his ability by 100 percent and said Mike Stone was the one that told him to see Bruce as Bruce was the one helping Mike Stone win. In this video by Joe, he credits Bruce with being the one instrumental in him winning. The first full contact fight Joe Lewis fought and won was in 70, according to Joe, which you'll see in this 1st part of a 3 part video link below. The only mention by Joe of Vic Moore is of Vic Moore getting knocked out by Harrison and I don't know of a referee anywhere that would not stop the fight if someone staggers that much trying to get up. Grand Master William Cheung said Bruce and Chuck sparred and Bruce won, I've got that link too if needed, hence why Chuck became Bruce's student. Chuck wrote an apology letter to Bruce in early 73 for stories getting out there that he said he had not trained with him or credited him with it and confirmed in the letter Bruce's involvement. James DeMile said he'd put his money on Bruce to beat anybody, but he's an easy target now he's gone. 1st part below, other 2 parts available if needed. kzbin.info/www/bejne/baKqn2ivmtaZhsU
@randalwung8715
@randalwung8715 Жыл бұрын
Wow…just wow. This “extended cut” of Moore’s Long Beach experience with him sparring and humiliating Lee could be straight out of Birth of the Dragon, which basically inverts history, and is right up there with escrimador Trovador Ramos’ claim that he beat Lee as well. But, hey, maybe this startling footage, suppressed for the sake of preserving the Bruce Lee myth, will surface at the same time some Lee/Seagal footage does, lol. As for the “selectively edited” demo-which Bruce’s student Steve Golden saw and said Moore didn't block a darn thing-what stands out for me is the laughter and smiling handshake at the end. Moore, at least to me, appears to be good-naturedly thanking Lee with a "Dang, you're good" gesture and they respectfully bow to each other. That's it; nothing to see here, folks. Why all of this has evolved and devolved into a bitter, dismissive, seemingly delusional tall tale that goes out of its way to shit on a guy that, far as I know, showed no disrespect toward Moore or any practitioners of color back in the day, is beyond me. I think it was Inosanto student Paul Vunak who said it best: When Bruce was alive, people walked on eggshells around him, but after he died…
@clarencehendricks8564
@clarencehendricks8564 7 ай бұрын
I noticed a lot of the comments had very low key disrespect because a man is stating his story, who cares what you racist people feel it is what it is and you all seem upset at the fact he's still alive to speak on it! Get over it watch the full video of him and Bruce not the ending clip it's out there.
@bickie603
@bickie603 Жыл бұрын
I really like that you don’t disrespect anybody. Honorable in my opinion.
@Starscream7272
@Starscream7272 Жыл бұрын
Joe Lewis, Chuck Norris and Mike Stone went to Bruce Lees house every week to learn from him or train. If this guy beat Bruce Lee, they would stop seeing Bruce Lee and go see this guy. Excuse me, Grandmaster.Ha
@carloscruz2850
@carloscruz2850 Жыл бұрын
Bruce Lee learn from them too. They knew more than he did.
@Garrett316
@Garrett316 Жыл бұрын
@@carloscruz2850 apparently not
@marvinj1000
@marvinj1000 Жыл бұрын
Good point
@ericrecano8557
@ericrecano8557 Жыл бұрын
Then why even go to Lee for instruction-these men were established champions and in the case of Joe Lewis and Mike Stone-they were very feared on the tournament circuit. Easy to say Bruce Lee wasn’t that good or just a movie star since he’s been gone since 1973-and yet he MUST have been good because here we are still talking about him.
@hmongusa7228
@hmongusa7228 Жыл бұрын
@@carloscruz2850 They knew more than he did? That's your claim? Are you the big mouth Mr. Moore's nephew?
@Dragonfury3000
@Dragonfury3000 Жыл бұрын
Respect is everything that's all I have to say
@darthlobo1213
@darthlobo1213 Жыл бұрын
So when Bruce was alive did this guy say these things as well or did he wait until Bruce died and then came forward with his version of the story?
@k-trader1668
@k-trader1668 Жыл бұрын
If these people think that Bruce Lee was nothing , Why in Gods name didn't they challenge him at these Tournament's because they new they didn't have a freaking chance to win.
@jj-wp6wc
@jj-wp6wc Жыл бұрын
No doubt Vic Moore is over the top saying so much about a dead master. But... To those who have a problem with people debating Bruce lee's potential as he cannot defend himself; I agree overall, but I also think that since he is such a timeless figure, with such a strong legacy, it's natural to speculate. Look...celebrities put themselves in a position of being judged (often unfairly)...and when it comes to the realm of martial arts, a realm with massive egos, of course people are gonna speculate, especially because Lee never really had an official record. Overall, it's all hypothetical today
@davidlatimore2462
@davidlatimore2462 Жыл бұрын
I'm confused... he said he blocked Bruce and I didn't see him block anything. I saw Bruce throw from ineffective range up to reasonable striking distance...but I didn't see Mr. Moore block ANY of the movements. And he seemed pretty slow to react, to me.
@windandcloudshadow158
@windandcloudshadow158 Жыл бұрын
Moore didn't beat anything all he did was show how fast Lee was.
@foodmusttravel61
@foodmusttravel61 Жыл бұрын
As much as I want to believe he beat Bruce during sparring and other guys beating Bruce, Bruce Lee is not able to answer that statement. Why didn't he said that when Bruce Lee was still alive? He further mentioned Bruce only looked good in movies and not a real fighter. Try telling that in Bruce Lee's face.
@iluvcliffrichard
@iluvcliffrichard Жыл бұрын
True, bruce was very vocal when alive, he had opinion on most things. These karate championscwere shrinking violets at the time. Maybe Vic Moore is feeling guilty how shy he was when bruce walked the earth and is overcompensating now, going overboard and beyond call of duty
@thewatcher8345
@thewatcher8345 Жыл бұрын
Oh man this dude is living in his own cartoon....
@lawanedavis7818
@lawanedavis7818 Жыл бұрын
Even if they all could. No one in the world would ever believe it. 😂
@bkk_savateur2437
@bkk_savateur2437 Жыл бұрын
In Boxing, Kickboxing, Thai-Boxing, and Savate, what happens in sparring stays in sparring: there is no winners or losers in sparring. Sparring is a learning experience, not a fight.
@Bartron_Flat_Earth
@Bartron_Flat_Earth Жыл бұрын
@Bkk_Savateur This liar never sparred with him lol
@bkk_savateur2437
@bkk_savateur2437 Жыл бұрын
@@Bartron_Flat_Earth But even if he did, it was sparring: that doesn't say much. Sparring is not about winning or losing: it's about learning. However, I must confess that I envy him in being called on for Bruce Lee to demonstrate his speed. Bruce Lee was so fast, that this man is credited for being able to block his hand when it was retracting back.
@Bartron_Flat_Earth
@Bartron_Flat_Earth Жыл бұрын
@@bkk_savateur2437 There is videos refuting his claims, he didn't block nothing, he even shoock Bruce hand and bowed to him accepting defeat hahah This was not prime Bruce
@bkk_savateur2437
@bkk_savateur2437 Жыл бұрын
@@Bartron_Flat_Earth That's what I was saying. His hand hit Bruce Lee's hand after he was retracting his blow: that's how fast Bruce Lee was: that by just making contact with his hand, though in retraction, a man could have a claim to fame for the rest of his life.
@stevo62ful
@stevo62ful Жыл бұрын
@@Bartron_Flat_Earth There is no evidence that Vic was accepting defeat, only in the minds of fanboys. In the meaningless Demo I cant tell who blocked what, but I can see that Bruce struck at Vic's face when the arrangement was suppose to be aiming at his chest. Either way it's a BS Demo that doesn't prove anything for either man.
@MaharlikaAWA
@MaharlikaAWA Жыл бұрын
Is there footage of Vic Moore sparring Chuck Norris in the tournament?
@B4NKST4Z
@B4NKST4Z Жыл бұрын
Doesn't matter,if there was and Chuck knocked him out,he would say I won but ........
@MaharlikaAWA
@MaharlikaAWA Жыл бұрын
@@B4NKST4Z Did he REALLY fight Chuck Norris at a tournament? I mean it is very possible but I would need to hear Chuck Norris talk about it or someone else. Back in the day tournaments were not always filmed. Even in the 90's I did many tournaments nobody knew about and won some.
@fidelmartinezcruz8393
@fidelmartinezcruz8393 Жыл бұрын
Esta delirando este señor, no se acuerda que Bruce siempre fue mas rapido que el y lo dejo como un gatito manso, debe agradecerle a Bruce Lee que por el es conocido. Y ahora fanfarronea. No es humilde como Jim Kelly.
@waltersimmons946
@waltersimmons946 Жыл бұрын
Vic Moore can't get the egg off his face from being demoralized, trying to unsuccessfully block Lee's punches . It's recorded, and Lee can rest peacefully because people know the truth. Talk is cheap.
@langfordvermeulen9959
@langfordvermeulen9959 Жыл бұрын
G.M Moore did you beat Ed Parker? Or fight him?
@mikaelstrom9163
@mikaelstrom9163 Жыл бұрын
Thats why all great martial artists took classes from master Lee..Chuck Norris,Joe Lewis and many more.Just because Bruce Lee was the best..Strange that when Bruce was alive no one said anything?? They were afraid that Bruce would kick some but👊
@RaySiu
@RaySiu Жыл бұрын
And not from vic moore. 😂😂😂
@charliec9720
@charliec9720 Жыл бұрын
Bruce became legendary after his passing. Many of these competitors would've beat Bruce. Doesn't really mean anything. Bruce was ahead of his time but one thing he wasn't was a semi or full contact competitor. Thry all trained with each other
@mikaelstrom9163
@mikaelstrom9163 Жыл бұрын
Even Chuck said that if Bruce would have gone to started compited he would do extremelly well..Thats saids it all👍
@jayquanvo5134
@jayquanvo5134 Жыл бұрын
Joe Lewis, one of the greatest karate champions of America was skeptical of Bruce at first. Why would he waste his time, if Bruce didn’t have the goods. But he realised Bruce’s knowledge, talent and skill. So did Chuck Norris and so many other martial art pioneers of the time. Eg. Wally Jay, Gene Lebell, Jhoon Rhee, Ed Parker, Hayward Nishioka. People who trained him or trained with him or trained by him and/or were his friends. They all have utmost respect for the man and his skill and dedication to the martial arts. I think Vic Moore is just very sour that the video is forever out there. As a martial artist he should be more humble and show some humility and respect to a man who has long passed.
@iluvcliffrichard
@iluvcliffrichard Жыл бұрын
Yes I think Vic is upset he couldnt block bruce punches, and its always out there now replayed over and over and maybe thinks if given another chance he'd do better next time? Vics way of dealing with it is making up stories of beating bruce in sparring and pretending there's footage of it also.?
@WestphillyRhythmconnection
@WestphillyRhythmconnection Жыл бұрын
When we can time travel in a decade or so , I can’t wait to see what really happened in these stories
@harrisdupree3323
@harrisdupree3323 Жыл бұрын
Video clearly shows Lee was retracting his blows when Moore responded. This is to be expected as "Action ALWAYS beats response" That said.
@budgiecat9039
@budgiecat9039 Жыл бұрын
"Moore then recalled how, on the way out of the arena, Norris took a program and wrote on it "To the guy who beat me fair and square" - and Norris' wife did the same thing. - You know we come with receipts so such a thing I would imagine he'd never throw away....so why didnt he show it in this interview?
@stevo62ful
@stevo62ful Жыл бұрын
I agree, I've seen as much evidence of Vic beating Chuck as I have of Bruce beating anyone, which is zero.
@jerryjordan2482
@jerryjordan2482 Жыл бұрын
I'm in Downtown Long Beach at the Long Beach Library with Some Old Heads that where at that Tournament and Demo Back and we Listened to What Vic Moore said and they All said He was Lying ! Even my Uncle was there back then and even Said" What Vic Moore said is not what He Saw ! "
@LazaroBueno
@LazaroBueno Жыл бұрын
Bruce lee had not made movies yet and become famous, yet this Vic more guy sais that when bruce did the demo with him, everyone knew him as a movie star and NOT a martial artist, thats why they took the challenge....bs....sorry duncan donut Vic more in front of computer screen....your are telling lies bro!
@BRUCEJJ66
@BRUCEJJ66 Жыл бұрын
Wow! Those are quite the stories! Stories being the operative word ... . I'm not saying we know for certain Bruce Lee could've beaten any of his contemporaries in competition, Bruce didn't compete, we can't possibly know for certain, it's all speculation. But ... regarding the demo with Bruce & Vic, anyone can watch unedited footage of that right here on youtube & , guess what, it doesn't support Vic's version. Mr. Moore may say one thing but both guys' body language tells a completely different story. If Vic had just publicly embarrassed Bruce would Bruce have carried on his demos, cool & confident like nothing humiliating had just happened to him? Not saying that that demo really proved a lot, as Vic points out Bruce was too far away to actually hit him anyway (but if Bruce had been closer wouldn't Vic have had less time to react?), they weren't sparring, but that demo was filmed from at least 3 camera angles, none of which support Vic's story. But someone else filmed the whole demo, right? Someone else filmed Vic completely dominating Bruce in a private sparring session, right? If only someone would share the incredible footage of Vic embarrassing Bruce Lee! Must be some kind of cover up or conspiracy thing, right? A likely story. Mr. Moore hurts his own reputation with this ridiculous story, why would I believe anything else he says (you know, his "I was the best", "I beat everyone" stuff) when he's already damaged his own credibility by telling these obvious lies about his demonstration with Bruce Lee over, & over, & over again?
@Master-pb8lu
@Master-pb8lu Жыл бұрын
I agree 💯 percent
@yewliegoh3896
@yewliegoh3896 Жыл бұрын
Why didn't he challenge Bruce Lee to a fight when he is still alive.
@rickrick5041
@rickrick5041 Жыл бұрын
Because he’d lose
@slipperyjohnson7016
@slipperyjohnson7016 Жыл бұрын
It's easy to beat a guy in a secret sparring match when he's no longer alive to counter your story. Hell, I beat Bruce too now that I think of it!!! :)
@polol1683
@polol1683 Жыл бұрын
It's also easy to say ,he didn't beat him and you can't proof it !
@slipperyjohnson7016
@slipperyjohnson7016 Жыл бұрын
@@polol1683 Short, but pointless. Thanks
@robd1329
@robd1329 Жыл бұрын
I beat John Cena in a wrestling match
@polol1683
@polol1683 Жыл бұрын
@@robd1329 no problem,wrestling is a fake show 😁
@michaelzimmerman8959
@michaelzimmerman8959 Жыл бұрын
Oh yeah, me too.😅
@Haerinx87
@Haerinx87 Жыл бұрын
Easy to make claims against a dead man who can't make a rebuttal. I once played guitar with Jimi Hendrix. Jimi cried and said to me "baby, i should just retire because I'll never be as good as you"
@robd1329
@robd1329 Жыл бұрын
Hahah. That was funny
@jamesfetcho6315
@jamesfetcho6315 Жыл бұрын
Exactly....I made Him put His Guitar down. Also being that I'm 60 pounds heavier....He knew He never stood a chance.
@dominichill1492
@dominichill1492 Жыл бұрын
I'm a boxer and I have sparring sessions back in my teens and early' 20's, but sparring is there to learn not a actual fight. Vic Moore has to remember that. Now I don't believe these other Karate champions would beat Bruce Lee in a fight. A lot of guys said they beat Bruce Lee back in the 60's.
@otisstevenson2066
@otisstevenson2066 Жыл бұрын
They're all lying Bro..
@stevo62ful
@stevo62ful Жыл бұрын
@@otisstevenson2066 How do you know they are lying ?
@feelyoung79
@feelyoung79 Жыл бұрын
​@@stevo62ful because NONE of them came out with these bs stories till after he passed.
@feelyoung79
@feelyoung79 Жыл бұрын
Jim Kelly said nobody could've beaten Bruce.
@stevo62ful
@stevo62ful Жыл бұрын
@@feelyoung79 doesn't mean they are lying. As Bruce had no fight record nobody knows how proficient he was, you and me included. In any case, I have not heard the more high profile ones, e.g. Joe Lewis, Chuck Norris and Gene Le Bell say they could or couldn't beat Bruce. Mike Tyson, however, said in a mythical match up he would kill Bruce and I believe him.
@bobbysmitty1628
@bobbysmitty1628 Жыл бұрын
Joe Lewis and Bill Wallace are very respected names in my circle, so if he beat them then I know this man could fight.
@missmorena1049
@missmorena1049 Жыл бұрын
He could fight as well as lie!
@donthompsonii9220
@donthompsonii9220 Жыл бұрын
He did the problem is during time period civil rights just ended do reaally think publicize black world champion
@robertdecker146
@robertdecker146 Жыл бұрын
Too bad that "Aaron Banks" wasn't still around. He would've made a very interesting martial artist guest amongst this channel's various interviews.
@alanfidelino4141
@alanfidelino4141 Жыл бұрын
The version from his alternate universe. Too bad, there's a video about the strike that you blocked. You saw it coming, you laughed that you missed it and that's all she wrote.
@heels-villeshoerepairs8613
@heels-villeshoerepairs8613 Жыл бұрын
Interesting, Bruce did not make grandiose statements about how great he was. No sledging, no berating, just philosophy. Bruce dies, all the would be sour grapes fall off the silence vine and make fools of themselves by spewing out garbage. Don't they realise how ridiculous they look and sound?! The real champs will tell you how good Bruce was, Chuck Norris, Jacky Chan, etc.
@bobbysmitty1628
@bobbysmitty1628 Жыл бұрын
After taking the time to listen to the interview I can more appreciate and respect the stance. I can also be less critical. I was initially very critical and biased. One thing I never favored about traditional martial arts are the hypothetical and speculative debates. The belt rankings and titles also play into the ego. Coming from boxing and wrestling, if you wanted to garner respect you had to go live. Drills are drills, fighting is fighting. There wasn't an overemphasis on formalities to fight each other, hop in the ring or hop on the mat. You may be better than me this week, and I might train and be better than you the next. However, I can respect Grandmaster Vic because this is his story to be told. From what I saw he looked like a formidable opponent. There are believable parts, and I can imagine that he didn't always get a fair shake when it came to recognition being aware of the times he competed. So, respect to him for sharing his story.
@adamm311
@adamm311 Жыл бұрын
He is clearly LYING and JEALOUS... The only thing he has "Grandmastered" is BS'ing people and Over-eating.
@cliffordhill2365
@cliffordhill2365 Жыл бұрын
IDK to what extent he's lying, but I certainly agree with you that Moore (and many others) are highly jealous of Lee.
@aidenfletcher6503
@aidenfletcher6503 Жыл бұрын
Vic didn't beat Bruce lee true story
@shamushbell8314
@shamushbell8314 Жыл бұрын
Excellent to hear this guys side of martial arts from the 60s 👏🏾
@YoraiDragon
@YoraiDragon Жыл бұрын
In the at 5:36. Yeah he blocked it... ON the way coming back. The hitting strike was already done. He caught it on the retraction. That's too late.
@radurobert1
@radurobert1 Жыл бұрын
J Kelly already mentioned that B Lee was untouchable .... IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO BEAT SOMEONE WHICH 2X OR 3X MORE FASTER THAN YOU AND ALSO WHO KNOWS A LOT ABOUT MARTIAL ARTS His next plan was to fight Muhammad Ali and others in the ring but death came ....
@mastertorryn5397
@mastertorryn5397 Жыл бұрын
It is possible to beat someone bigger than you but you really have to outsmart them and be faster. So it is possible to beat someone bigger than you but you really have to be really good.
@windandcloudshadow158
@windandcloudshadow158 Жыл бұрын
And let's not act like Moore was way bigger then Lee.
@mastertorryn5397
@mastertorryn5397 Жыл бұрын
@@windandcloudshadow158 One way to find out is to have The records of how heavy Bruce Lee was and have this person who says they can beat Bruce Lee and he says he has been bursley let's have him weigh himself then
@mastertorryn5397
@mastertorryn5397 Жыл бұрын
@@windandcloudshadow158 He says he can beat Bruce Lee Bruce Lee big c's bigger well that's way him then let's get him have him weigh himself. And show proof that he can be Bruce Lee because there should be video of it then hes only saying that hes beaten Bruce Lee there's not really actually any proof. And there's no proof that Bruce Lee or or this one other guy is bigger there's no proof of that either.
@windandcloudshadow158
@windandcloudshadow158 Жыл бұрын
@mastertorryn5397 Agreed everyone talks smack about someone who's past but I never did see Moore talking this way when Bruce was alive.
@paulpolpiboon9535
@paulpolpiboon9535 Жыл бұрын
The delusional state he's in is incredible. He's describing a story to us that we can see the clear video footage of, blatantly lying against the footage, didn't bother to explain why the footage is showing otherwise. He wears a Karate gi like it's supposed to lend him credibility when it just comes off as a sad Halloween costume trying to hide his gut. His ignorance on the subject of Lee is shown when he calls it "Jeet KWAN Do". Lee in that vic moore footage is respectful and considerate to human beings by making sure there's enough space, ensuring vics safety Lee pulls his strike a good 5-10 inches away from moore's face. This guy shoots an interview video with you right in front of his refrigerator. You know even if you want to say you upped one on Bruce that might be fine if you at least acknowledged something good about Bruce, he doesn't even speak one honest attribute for Lee. He's gotta put Lee down to elevate himself I guess.
@JosephFurlong
@JosephFurlong Жыл бұрын
The Media and Camera can make anybody immortal .
@iluvcliffrichard
@iluvcliffrichard Жыл бұрын
They can't make people think your unbeatable or a great fighter though or give you aura of invincibility..
@bruceleemania2152
@bruceleemania2152 Жыл бұрын
Any dog ​​can kick a Dead Lion.
@kwaishiu6460
@kwaishiu6460 Жыл бұрын
With all due respect, have some respect for the dead, and humble is a part of a training for any martial artist, 🙏 with ✌️ ☮️
@Davesworldyoutube
@Davesworldyoutube Жыл бұрын
Listening to Vic Moore for many years he sends out the vibe that he does not like Bruce. Maybe Bruce Lee embarrassed him. I've often thought I've gotten the better of someone while sparring and it wasn't true.
@leeroygreene85
@leeroygreene85 Жыл бұрын
Playing devils advocate, I think Vic Moore just wants his side heard. Imagine you’re being ridiculed for 50 plus years without anyone considering his side of things. Vic comes from a old generation of fighters that probably would want the attention Bruce received. Remember these men fought in tournaments, while Bruce became a movie star. I think these fighters probably deserve a bit more respect as well. I adore Bruce but as you get older you understand the balance of fighters and actors. Bruce decided to become a movie star and changed the world. But it doesn’t just begin and end with Bruce Lee either.
@kiaikarate5387
@kiaikarate5387 Жыл бұрын
@@leeroygreene85 YOU ARE THE MAN-ABSOLUTELY--- That is perfect..
@leeroygreene85
@leeroygreene85 Жыл бұрын
@@kiaikarate5387 I am no master 😉 I appreciate the response! Bruce Lee is also human so we sorta get carried away of his mythical status. I feel all those fighters from that era also deserve some respect too! 👊🏻
@Haerinx87
@Haerinx87 Жыл бұрын
@leeroygreene85 Just because you're a martial artist doesn't mean you deserve attention or will become a movie star. Bruce was 1 in a million, very special. Nobody had his style or charisma.
@leeroygreene85
@leeroygreene85 Жыл бұрын
@@Haerinx87 No one is debating Bruce’s status. This was more to bring attention to other martial artists of that period. The line starts to blur when we only worship and admire (1) person that others get hardly any recognition. Just my opinion of course
@SalterRacingEngines
@SalterRacingEngines Жыл бұрын
I've watched this video lots of times. You didn't even come close to blocking a single punch and the reaction from you in the video even proves it you lowered your head laughing because you know you got smoked why are people constantly trying to say how good they are compared to Bruce Lee when they're in no physical shape or condition to even prove it against a young karate guy today I think it's just older people trying to relive their Glory but believe me you're not helping yourself by outright lying cuz everyone sees the truth
@ianrobinson5057
@ianrobinson5057 Жыл бұрын
Victor Moore is a professional liar and totally deluded. It wouldn't matter what you say to him or video evidence presented to him bruce lee gave him every chance and he failed. What a moron.
@StreetLethalRacing
@StreetLethalRacing Жыл бұрын
Many magazines indicated that Moore beat Norris, Lewis and Stone, all top guys. But we’re talking tournaments. Also, Lee gave a demo during his eclectic phase, he was still putting his JKD together. Nobody, and I mean nobody, ever said that Lee was able to block Moore’s punches, so there has to be something to that. Remember Lee had promotors, he was a product of Hollywood. Moore was an unknown, and whatever happened in the gym that day was left in that gym. However, two top black belts have confirmed that Moore was faster, and one of them knew Lee well, and had a role in Enter the Dragon. He was the instructor of Jim Kelly’s Kenpo class in the beginning of the film, he underlined that Moore was faster. Where is everyone else to dispute that claim?
@iluvcliffrichard
@iluvcliffrichard Жыл бұрын
There were people faster than Bruce. But don't mean you can hit Bruce or stop one of Bruce's attacks.
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