I Bought 2 CHEAP Range Rover Evoques & They Both Have Issues! 😢

[@stermindelves4251]

Fair play for explaining how gross margin can be eaten by overheads. We’re another small business not far away. Different trade but same problems. Respect from sunny Bridgwater 🌞

[@bobbles9040]

Found this channel recently- I am toying with buying a Range Rover Sport so seeing you buy a few recently has sparked my interest… great channel and great presentation 👌🏼 Also love how transparent you are with the details of your purchases- keep up the good work

[@ShiftingMetal]

Thanks! 👍

[@Nomadic-Cyclist]

Save you self the disappointment. Everyone person I’ve know who’s owned one has loved how it drives and how practical they are but eventually got rid as the repairs are one thing after another. But hay I get the whole wanting to try one as they are nice just leave your wallet wide open 😂

[@JakeGauld]

Something about your videos are relaxing and they dont lose my attention even though you're doing relatively normal things. Top job mate.

[@ShiftingMetal]

Thank you, down to Toby’s editing I’m sure!

[@jac9337]

Low battery for the boot opening issue on my 69 plate mk2 one couple of runs it works fine

[@johnwilson279]

Interesting viewing, even from down in New Zealand. Enjoy just seeing how the used car scene is in the UK. I watch a couple of other channels, UK Salvage Rebuilds and Chops garage. I have noticed you have more choices of vehicles that have manual transmissions fitted, cars in New Zealand are more likely to have Automatic Transmissions. We have a lot of used cars come in via used Japanese Imports, which has seen us getting cars with better standard accessories fitted. Our family cars are a 2018 Kia Sportage AWD and as my run around car I drive a 2012 Suzuki Kizashi AWD. I also notice cars in the UK are plagued with rust issues because of the use of Winter and salt being laid on the road, as a result our older cars are in better condition and are usually rust free. As I said I enjoy the format of your site and like to follow your journey, all the best with your business. Cheers John Wilson

[@walterprice8728]

Thanks for the observations. Here in the UK we expect most jeeps to rot out in 10 to 12 years old, with the weather and mud. Had a Isuzu Rodeo 2.5TD bought new 2011 and rotted our recently, even though engine and gearbox really good. The end up being scrapped, which is a great shame. Greetings from Pembrokeshire.

[@pmbpmb5416]

Always makes me laugh when people express their shock at what appears a huge cash sum , never considering the overheads , then ask them how much they expect to get paid per hour when they work , let alone all the other obligations you have .

[@mjsee08]

Can we take a moment to appreciate how well made the video is. The train station walking shots, the cinematics, putting both RRs facing each other with Joe in the middle doing the Vehicle Score bit. I can tell a lot of thought and prep went into this off camera

[@volt8684]

My daughter just bought a 13 plate dynamic lux. 82k 1 lady owner fsh. I was a JLR hater until I drove this. What a beautiful car. Hope it stays reliable because it truly is a luxurious beauty that drives impeccably. If they could get QC sorted they have a very desirable product

[@robovac3557]

Just don't be one of those whingeing owners who cry about repairs if a notoriously troublesome car does go bad.

[@escupudantayk8928]

I had a 2016 Evoque for four years, and the Ingenium engine never gave me any problems. I drove it for over 40,000 miles. I guess I'm one of the lucky ones.

[@niflheim4213]

Same goes for my 2017 Evoque 2.0D. Nearly 100k km no issues at all.

[@sentralsix]

As long as they’re maintained and serviced properly they aren’t actually that bad. Biggest one is regular oil changes!

[@me-us1lw]

Likewise, I had a 2016 jaguar xf with the same 2.0 ingenium engine from new. I ran it for 180k with a daily commute of 100 miles round trip, 80% of which was motorway/A road. I serviced it every 10k and it never missed a beat, my only expense was consumables and servicing, Which included a chain change at 160k. I found it a brilliant engine 🤷

[@mentonish]

Thanks for a nice one and the west country views, close to my home town.When you see the new price and the resale value after several years. Good value for the money.

[@Superzesh101]

People don't understand how expensive it is to run a dealership sometimes. They just the profit numbers and think you're scamming them. 😂 They'll be shocked to see that sometimes you're in a loss after all the overheads. Good luck!

[@mikebowers7161]

I don’t know whether it’s psychological but, since I was bleating and whinging about the sound quality, your videos now seem to sound better!! Have you done something or is it me?

[@darrenmoore7131]

Your right about places on your door step (cheddar gorge) just taken for granted, I drive past Durham Cathedral regularly and never take much notice, my cousin visited from Australia and was amazed at the place 😀👍

[@ShiftingMetal]

So true!

[@Bigboss86652]

Would've been more shocked if the title was "I bought 2 evoques and they are both flawless"

[@ColinGarner-h1t]

I love Land Rover / Range Rover if they’re serviced correctly they’re no worse than any other vehicle. Tell your story to the company that ran many Discoveries without issue then went to Toyota and after months went back to Discoveries .

[@JeffPower-dv3zl]

😂😂❤😊

[@ShiftingMetal]

Very true! I did expect some ‘quirks’ to be fair

[@G4RY1159]

🤣

[@toms4097]

@@ShiftingMetal This video is only visible if you search on the channel. It’s not coming up on my recent releases. If your views are shit that’s why

[@kevinlally7653]

EGR and DPF. Sadly those were my immediate thoughts when reading the title of the video. We loved our D Sport, but hugely frustrated with the emissions systems, same as friends with same cars.

[@peenergysolutionslimited8903]

There is an ongoing class.action lawsuit against JLR because of the poor design of the Ingenium. Worth participating.

[@Zippytie]

Bought my Evogue2.2 , brand new 2014 , and have a used freelander 2013 , 2.2 and been very happy , the Landrover Technician always tells me there the best vehicles that Landrover built .

[@bmwman1981]

The evoque is basically a freelander in a posh frock

[@mtawali13]

How do you buy a brand new 2014 car in 2024??

[@andrewbaker6615]

Lovely video well explained and thought out. Gives the public a good idea how your business works and all the hard work you do with the income and risks involved.

[@willsta21]

Wow your playing with fire, no market down comments! My £6500 Enfield bullet (bought Jan 2024) has been offered between £800 to £1400 on exchange.

[@seanwallace1972]

So glad you have a workshop I’d love something like that,with a car lift,etc,all my work is done outside the back of my house in all weathers

[@andrewmason4040]

In the menu system you can play with the height the boot opens before stopping to stop it smacking into a low roofed garage or multi-story carpark, just re-set that to normal - fault fixed :-) - thanks for a good video :-)

[@markyboy7012]

Think i may have mentioned before. My wife has a late 2018 [Old Shape] HSE dynamic Lux Black Pack with just 40k on the clock. This car has full RR service history yet has had :- New turbo Timing chain 2 front springs Thermostat & housing Transfer case reseal Seat belt clasp Head Gasket 2 key fobs ~ RR made her change the security module both times at a cost of £500. Trying to chop it in for a Porsche Macan but what was £40k less than 3 years ago is now £13k Max.

[@kaptinkeiff]

Holy moly

[@Jamessansome]

That's horrendous. My parents also had a terrible experience with an Evoque but luckily it was a new lease vehicle and ended up sueing the supplier as they were paying for a lease for over 18months but only had the car on the drive for 9 months total. It had electrical, driveshaft and gearbox issues within the first 1k miles and went from garage to garage for months at a time.....

[@DrBarkles]

I picked up an evoque when I was at a dealer a few years back from BCA and it had a blown diff… and we had multiple of these, they don’t deserve a Range Rover badge; just as unreliable but nasty quality to go with it!

[@enthusiastsofbritishmotors]

Great video - interesting content, good camera work with nice tight editing and excellent audio from the wireless mic. Thanks 🙂

[@mrd64]

You seem to have gone Range Rover crazy lately! I don't even like them, but I'm still really enjoying the videos.

[@keithmckendrick1722]

Maybe the white one has foot sweep feature on the boot?...I had a Velar that used to do the same thing...just had to keep my plates still when I was messing around in the boot...jus sayin...🤘

[@piggybakkers]

That blocked off cut thru the trading estate is a bummer! especially when you're trying to catch the 13:31 to Waterloo.

[@janicebarker4361]

Joe, you can set the max height of tail lift then it doesn't catch the beams in car parks

[@maxflight777]

Or in your own garage ! good post sir.

[@henrykravitz468]

I love Cheddar Gorge, need to go back as not been there in years, love walking around it, and seeing the views. 2 good cars there, so hope they don't take to long and cost too much to prep. Great video and content.

[@LonelyPickle-m4r]

Great video. Weird seeing you in Westbury. I live not far from Westbury Ford.

[@toms4097]

A couple of good buys. Nice length, informative & interesting video.

[@josephberrie9550]

buying a range rover is like having a high maintenance wife..expensive unreliable and guaranteed to rob you blind of your cash...also its like an alcohol addiction you know its bad for you but you cant resist them

[@vanlifenomad]

I done that walk form the train station a few times to westbury Copart, never thought about Aston Barclay ill take a look

[@suegeen688]

dont use GWR now, come to Wellington on Berrys coaches, from Hammersmith straight into wellington👍

[@josephgittos3787]

I would do a egr delete , thats what I did with mine , they dont even blank it off now, do it by software

[@sammottram6944]

Who did u get to do the Delete? I have a 2015 that has had nothing but huge problems

[@josephgittos3787]

@@sammottram6944 just look online plenty do it now , just search for egr deletions.

[@jazzdub4958]

Didn't know they've become so cheap now. Now I know why some neighbours around by me have all of a sudden have now got one. For me, no way would I take one now, the market is thru the floor on these models being 10 a penny. After a couple of years you'd be stuck with them when looking to move on from them.

[@yvonfem]

Another great vid joe really interesting .hope you ring the bell on them 2.

[@Notalwaysserious]

I thought the tailgates could be set lower so you don't smash the garage roof?

[@peterstanford9720]

What is it about a TV in a car ?? I had one in my Skoda....... made me late for loads of appointments if Judge Judy was on.....🙈

[@ShiftingMetal]

😂

[@weflipcarsUK]

Yes Joe! Love an Evoque. You’ll sort them I’m sure

[@seanwallace1972]

Great video,love the evoque,you exhaust gas circulation fault that come in with your code reader,you mention about treating it,I have a diesel Insignia.i have had that,how do you treat it

[@ShiftingMetal]

We sometimes use fuel additive treatments available from Forte

[@seanwallace1972]

Love those cars,are they prone to be unreliable,

[@shaunwilson-seabrook]

If your buying at a good price and with higher mileage there’s obviously going to be certain issues , hopefully nothing major and easy , cheap to fix 👍🏻👊🏻

[@mikes747]

My sister had a 2wd manual ingenium. The tax was only £30 a year which she thought was great. Shame it cost her thousands over the time she owned it trying to keep the damn thing working! Dreadful things!

[@gwidonpopielski2885]

spot on!

[@gascans801]

prefer the front grill and drl,s on the older one tbh

[@user-J.767]

I love Range Rovers ❤. I drive an Evoque HSE 2 litre Love it , it’s the 3rd one I’ve owned want drive anything else xx

[@GordonM54]

Engine management light might be because you haven't put enough turns on the fuel cap when you put fuel in

[@ShiftingMetal]

It sure if serious or not?! 😅

[@GordonM54]

@@ShiftingMetal Serious. It's well known on the Uk forum

[@GordonM54]

@@ShiftingMetal Lots of good itrouble shooting info on the forum from knowledgeable members. Same on the Disco Sport Forum.

[@peterdownes8275]

Honest click bait for a change 😂

[@stuzx7r]

igene bomb and knock sensors that cant be fixed even if you change the full system

[@fenderbender3478]

Goats to the left of me, climbers to the right, stuck in the Rangy with you.

[@ShiftingMetal]

😂 That went through my head too!

[@sicapon]

Cheddar Gorge.....Bit smaller than the Grand Canyon, but the Cheese is nicer!

[@sleepysamk1400]

JLR should be sponsoring Shifting Metal. Your becoming a JLR dealer 🤣

[@ShiftingMetal]

Keeping the brand alive, one video at a time 😂

[@thomasmyers4089]

The probably flogged them off because the price of the first service cost more the car is worth.

[@scotty6346]

I don't trust public transport to be anywhere on time! And being in Barnstaple i always get a one way Enterprise budget ie Aygo/Fiat 500 rental car for my car purchases! 2 scotch eggs, Doritos Chilli heatwaves and coffee for the trip is a must! 😂

[@grosepaul]

Thats useful info.. for my last trip from Barnstaple to Aston Barclay, Donington Park i had to take the Wife so she could drive my car back.. didn't think of one way car hire - will do in future. There was an accident in the link rd roadworks and her return trip totalled 4.5 hrs... not happy

[@scotty6346]

@@grosepaul One way Rentals are a good option although Enterprise charge you an extra £50 for the privilege!

[@matto1587]

Think you can program the height the boot sits at

[@iLudez]

I think they get too much hate. The diesels are where its at, wifes has done 245 thousand kilometres and weve had only minor issues nothing mechanically. Compared to my 08 sport lol that was a money pit

[@G4RY1159]

Eyeball Paul's old RR 🤣 Thanks again fella

[@alanchurchill7305]

Loved that video,great buys.

[@liamegan4303]

Hi Joe, I swear you have a death wish when it comes to Range Rovers, lol 😆 but they will get you home 🏡. Wow, £180 for tax a year is a brilliant job, and a good score. All the other Range Rovers you had, all Sold pretty quickly. These two will Sell with no worries at all, lol. Lovely Red and black interior in the Black one. Wicked video again, Joe. Thanks for all your hard Work. 👏👏👌💯🇮🇪

[@ShiftingMetal]

Haha, maybe but I think they’ll be ok! 🤞

[@liamegan4303]

@@ShiftingMetal Thanks Joe. 👌👍💯

[@kouchpotato1]

I love my evoque - very few issues with it and reliable - maybe I got a good one ?

[@BohoChic2u]

I am a 2015 Evoque owner too and ZERO issues as well. Love mine! ❤

[@markwilson9061]

Are you becoming a franchisee of the Range Rover brand Joe? 🤔😆 so much so you didn't notice a 40 foot chalk horse 😆

[@Seansaundersdecorating]

To be fair the 12 plates still a nice looking vehicle you can see why they sell well .

[@bastogne315]

What meds u on buyin them yokes?? Luv show.❤

[@MichaelHollis-n2t]

Have a evogue for 3 years never had any problems

[@HA05GER]

Id put my money on the white one. That 2.2 is the ford engine which is pretty reliable.

[@ianjohnson1207]

The 2.2 Ford engine if it’s the same one in the Defender’s is a Ford transit engine, nothing but problems it’s a disaster waiting to happen

[@neiljefferies9833]

Nope, its a PSA Peugeot lump (2.2HDI) apart from the occasional EGR fault, very solid lump

[@HA05GER]

@@neiljefferies9833 yeh ford PSA same thing. They were made in conjunction, ford and Peugeot. It's not strictly a Peugeot engine and realistically was used far more by ford than Peugeot/Citroen.

[@byronmills5952]

​@@macsmith6216It's PSA based engine - the 2.2 is known as the DW12 and was tuned and co developed for Ford/Land Rover use.

[@briancarton1804]

​@@HA05GERI counted 11 different makes of car that used the Ford/Peugeot PSA engine.

[@tj9382]

Great video very informative and interesting.

[@kevinproctor5730]

Buy a plastic so called landrover with an ingenium engine at your peril . Quickest way to empty your bank and still leave you stranded . Wouldn’t touch one ever , got a skip full of these engines mostly with less than 30k miles on them

[@viyansen3387]

But what is the problem ?

[@kevinproctor5730]

@ they all have cam timing issues , the worst ever engine fitted to a landrover in my opinion. Just full of cheap manufactured components making them very unreliable. Good for my business though , over the last 3/4 years I have done 100’s of them all with failing oil sensor issues all with crap cams , most of them with cracked or warped heads , whatever it is I have to remove the engine and rebuild it , I’ve a skip full of knackered ingenium engines and all less than 30k miles on them . I’d say only 5% of the amount I’ve done are because the owners are just idiots not looking after the vehicle properly but the other 95% are down to these notorious engines . Range rovers , disco’s , defenders ‘ even had jaguars with the same issues . I wouldn’t own one if you gave me it for free off the production line . Landrover have seriously messed up with these because it’s 1500 to 2000 for me to sort them so what about a main landrover dealer costs , hence why people are a second one to hopefully rob the parts if and I stress IF those are any good which I seriously doubt . Best advice I can give you as a 67 yr old landrover guy is buy a Toyota hilux if you want modern , if not an old then a series 3 defender put an ally chassis on it refurb the engine properly don’t skimp on any servicing with it and it’ll last your lifetime , it’ll look old won’t have a sat nav won’t have heated seats or dab radio but it’ll climb a mountain up and down

[@s300bee]

One of the nicest guys in the trade. Top stuff.

[@kevmacca1905]

I used to build both evoque and discovery sports, they are the same running gear just a different body shell

[@brianmckenna3440]

Great video good luck with the car's

[@Stewie_Norfolk]

Go to Dunstable and they have a chaulk line in tbe hill for Whipsnade Zoo And you got the big cave man with the winky but it escapes me where that is

[@AlanRafferty]

EGR error could be down to a blanking plate being fitted...

[@davidclarke9767]

Yes your never without a dash light in a RRover there like the men that Bob up in that children's game as soon as you knock one down with the mallet another pops up.

[@leroyjohnson4973]

That EGR insufficient flow fault code means that the DPF is cracked. Stick your finger into the tailpipe, if you find thick black soot on you finger confirms it. Cheers mate!!

[@ShiftingMetal]

I'm impressed, you are right, we had to buy a new one!

[@mikepalmer7687]

They hold their value better than most cars LR products are highly desirable

[@RoadGlideRick]

whats the best year and model to buy? im in the market for one? ( only do city driving)

[@windowgleamcleaningservice3994]

What diagnostic tool are you using?

[@Fatspurios]

Hammer probably.

[@JeffPower-dv3zl]

​@rober😂😂tkeable1627

[@ShiftingMetal]

www.ebay.co.uk/itm/233099334278?mkevt=1&mkcid=2&mkrid=7111648024041847&keyword=UK_youtube_AD600S

[@bryanadams4436]

Cracking podcast as usual Joe and gang dead handy Rail Station just behind the Auctions

[@hughesy606]

Just behind, but it feels like an half hours walk to the auction!

[@timbo19751975]

The 2.2 will be 100% after some tlc - the ingeni-dumb will be back to haunt you again, and again...

[@samhunt8240]

I work at a JLR independent specialist and this is I 100% agree, the old 2.2 is the best diesel and the ingenium is probably the worst engine I have ever seen. Although I have to say the petrol Ingenium is actually pretty reliable.

[@hughesy606]

Only true traders know the pain of auction sheets stuck to windscreens!

[@jonhoward6811]

Great channel.

[@ShiftingMetal]

Thank you!

[@litigantdad1974]

we have a 65 plate HSE Dynamic, 32k, full history and it's been pretty much flawless, look after them and they can be good motors. Reversing camera and tail lamps getting water ingress are known issues as well as windscreens leaking due to LR not putting enough bond on at factory. Give the ingemium fresh oil every 12 months regardless of mileage and keep fuel above 1/4 of a tank and it'll regen when it needs it, jobsagoodun.

[@rvrebel2209]

Rather surprised that no road & second hand car checks were not done before taking on road

[@ShiftingMetal]

How do you know that?! 😂

[@rvrebel2209]

@@ShiftingMetal it was not shown. Therefore one can only assume that the checks were not done 😄

[@tonydry8189]

i'm wondering if i should ptx my 2018 Skoda Karoq for a bit more luxury eg a RR Evoque autobiography or HSE - am i being foolish ?

[@gwidonpopielski2885]

Stay off from Range Rovers. Keep your money in your pocket, not garage owners one.

[@thedude2556]

Headphones are there to NOT hear the knocking of the engine LMAO

[@tom5001]

Has the boot on the white one not just been set for short person? You can do this on vag cars

[@OleGitRule]

Still a popular car and an auction car would be no issues to me, where do people think dealers get their stock from, Narnia

[@blackhat400]

Its the timing chain guides that are the big issue , stupid design, they"re behind the flywheel end of the engine, so its gearbox out flywheel off, massive job, also turbos are soft,,most owner get rid of them before these issues surface, its the poor guy down the line of ownership that suffers,

[@cp4512]

The older 2.2 diesel should be okay. I wouldn’t have any faith in the 2.0 Ingenium engine - it’s a ticking engine bomb waiting to go off 💥

[@eastlondona.m.w2886]

Didnt Range Rovers drop massively in price due too theft i no in london last year you couldn't insure them.

[@FERRARIlegend1]

Hi there thanks for sharing. However I’m confused about this whole Range Rover thing. I bought one 4 weeks ago 2021 3.0SDv6 and literally everyone ripped me to bits telling me how bad these cars are. What have you done that for. Is buying this brand just a lottery because even you buy them nervously? let me tell you I had mercedes 6 cars one after the other. My last one I just sold E class 220d 2018 car cost me 12 grand in repairs in 2 years. Last straw the ad blue tank failed £2500 repair . Drivers hinge on the door failed have you ever know a hinge fail on a car then it failed again ?? So all brands are not great are they. Is Land Rover worse though. You keep buying them to sell.

[@nigelmapito]

Which auction do you get these cars from?

[@nomdeplume798]

Westbury? My mum was evacuated to Westbury.

[@rockyalwayswins1495]

Bet old Sunak will be ordering one 😂

[@lesnorris]

People don't understand what overhead are as most people have never run a business, I asked a driver of mine what he thought it cost a week to run my business, he said a 200 a week no mate put azero on that

[@johnbellamy6449]

nice work joe

[@DaleSteel]

2.2 arguably the better engine? It's the ONLY good engine. So long belt has been done every 60k they need changing. Also suffer from clogged turbo veins so a good turbo cleaner additive now and again. They are a fantastic engine based on ford transit engine

[@motoringmemories6825]

Loved your vlog. Glen.

[@mikythesaint6507]

It will need a new EGR. Get it replaced it will just come back to you

[@DrivewayTrader]

Can you not make a complaint to the auction company about the undeclared faults, eg EML, camera faults? The vendor may then send on compensation etc to save the risk of reputational damage if you were to name & shame the vendor on here

[@christinejeffrey5994]

Does anyone know of an obd scanner that will clear the low battery message? Battery fine by the way.

[@tomthompson7400]

I hope its still running

[@J.J1971]

Brilliant films, doing what I want to do... Not as simple as it looks....