I bought a $300 earth mover off Facebook and started it for the first time in 20 years

[@mauricemuenks3499]

I have a the predecessor to that machine and you have one of the most productive scrapper brands at the time it was built.The one i have is a 1964 model. It is a C-Pull with the V-8 engine, electric steer and electric conveyor with the Hancok scraper. One thing to keep track of is most of those machines were POSITIVE GROUND for the batteries. The big alternator (generator) should produce about 380 Volts. The flux bridge on the main transformer usually maintains about 10-15 amps, more when the conveyor is running. If you used and 8 inch drop center on the middle two cutting edges you should put 20 yards of dirt in the bowel in under a minute, once you get you cut area set up. Do not let the engine drop below 1800 rpm when electric conveyor is on that is where the best effeciency is and the conveyor won't stall out that easy. You will never kill the engine by putting it in gear. The Allison transmission has a positive lockup in first and reverse, 2nd though 6th have a high and low side to them, the high side is a direct lockup that happens about 1800 rpm. These machine were the cadillac of scrapers when they came out.

[@billw4746]

A lesson learned it is always a good idea. To remove the valve covers on a detroit and check that the fuel racks are free. Sometimes they can runaway and blow up. This was not bad here but anytime an older diesel engine is shut down they go back to full throttle so they will start again.

[@bingusmctingus4395]

Adding onto this, old2stroker and Busgreasemonkey have TONS of videos on fixing these issues

[@farwest571]

Man you saw this on the internet and spun it into your own experience

[@bohhica1]

I knew this was gonna be or get good when a guy pulls out a claw hammer and a pair of regular pliers, and it starts, amazing.

[@larryskeeper1197]

Must have been the WD40 squirted into the water jackets that made the difference.....?

[@jeffchattin4799]

I owned a couple of these. The gas pedal should pull up and shut it down. It’s always a good idea to check these emergency butter fly on the intake side of the blower before trying to start a Detroit. There have e been a lot of good engines destroyed by a stuck rack

[@CJPhillips6648]

Great project, nice video other people learn a lot when you show how things are fixed!🙂

[@holdenbrougham7768]

Awesome video job , that made me feel your worries and panic fear too , lucky for you that GM motor sounded like it was working only an hour ago when you started it up , was running perfectly too , returned to dile when you wanted it to , never try to start any engine with out checking fluids oil water trans power steering, brakes you must be able to react to unexpected thing's if machinery is new to you , loved your idea of ringing somebody to ask how do i turn this machine off ,, or could of found it here on KZbin

[@dixonhayes9455]

Worked in a wabco plant in the seventys till it closed in seventy nine in Toccoa GA helped build a lot of them

[@JaronLindow]

You might have the answer to the current dilemma: One or both of the front brakes won't release even with the system air pressure above 100 PSI.

[@dixonhayes9455]

Sorry worked in the press department and welding department never got to finish department

[@dondiego2262]

Sorry to laugh at your panic/discomfort , but that was a riot. Easily the best thing I've seen all day.

[@randallbrack2130]

Always remember to take the lid off and have the airbox Exposed on a Detroit especially an old Detroit engine so that you can shut the airbox down so it could shut itself down. You got very lucky that the engine did not run away

[@Longeno55]

That is so cool how you got that old beast engine running. It sounded like a pretty sound engine

[@Jdigger4130]

AWESOME MAN!!!!!! I dunno what a guy needs an old Wabco fer but I LOVE IT!!!!! SUBBED

[@matthewkesler1175]

That engine was waiting for you to fire it up.

[@ryanhunt881]

I find it very hard to believe that this guy bought a scraper for $300.

[@rikbitter]

There's at least $2000 in scrap in the thing.

[@Del-27]

Your doing ok , it’s a learning process, I run plant and it’s worth 300 scrap so just have fun tinkering about with it ! Stay safe thow 👍

[@MobileYamTechNC]

Most places that is $200/ton.. so more like $5800 in scrap. A lot of #1 steel in those

[@sherrybcampbell943]

That was built in Toccoa Georgia where l live now. Part of the plant where it was built is still there.

[@deborahchesser7375]

At least she didn’t run wide open, got ya going did it buddy.

[@alscompleteoutdoor9091]

Didnt expect that either but damn that was fun to watch not going lie

[@galewinds7696]

You got a bargain @ 300.00, if it's the one in video, it will bring more than you paid at a scrap yard.

[@tristanoliva]

I would’ve bought it too just for scrap! Worth way more than 300. I’d keep the ol 8v71 detroit though

[@irgski]

surprised the battery still had a large enough charge to start the damn thing!

[@myronbro]

Didn't sound like it ran away to me, guy just wanted to shut it down since it didnt have coolant and panicked in the moment. Been there myself!

[@bobsmith2637]

Detroit: Our engines don't run away, mechanics do!

[@uhaveautism6192]

If that old girl could talk, I would definitely listen. For $300, imagine what you can get for it in scrap 💁‍♂️

[@robertlishman3741]

Never seen a battery hold power for 20 years and always check the racks on a GM if it had been standing for years before starting.

[@radioace318la]

yep. and prime. I call BS.

[@sceneanuerebelrebel9244]

8/71 loud but strong more than enough for that scraper .

[@dakkan5433]

I watched a video somewhere in which a guy explained that Detroits were designed for high torque operation for extended periods

[@andrewking4885]

This Detroit is turbocharged an 8V71T somewhere around the 350 HP mark depending on the injector size.

[@welshlyn9097]

Ladies and gentlemen that’s how you do it.

[@michaelmcclure8673]

Take a block of wood big enough to cover the air intake pipe. Choke it dead. And after setting all that time you should've pull the vale covers and worked the rack.🤔😉😄

[@jarmstrong2843]

Heck, even if it didn’t start, the price of scrap metal would make you turn a profit on your $300 investment.

[@richardhedlund3774]

Why are you spraying lube in the water manifold block off holes? Those holes are use for water manifold’s when those heads are used on inline DD’s

[@JaronLindow]

So not a convenient port to access the top of the cylinders? Well, crap.

[@brentdarnell141]

you are right, the inspection covers on sides of the block is where you want to spray the rings and exhaust valve's.

[@michelod.i.y.5202]

A will it start video, YES! 😁

[@yeatmanbrothersltd1497]

Engine stop cable is below hydraulic controls, if you started anything else without coolant youd be in the scrap business.

[@waynep343]

I wonder if jpaydirt on KZbin still has manuals for his former Wabco scraper. He still has wabco haul trucks

[@johnkern6698]

Awesome!!!!! That will make your heart race!!!

[@Brandon-ch2ot]

I was yelling block the intake block the intake!

[@sceneanuerebelrebel9244]

She looks like she's aspirated engine if you got a wild hair, the supercharger and turbo acist could push the envelope with maybe 450 hp ,a boost gauge and pyrometer a must .Limit boost to less than 50lbs.

[@karlalton3170]

Bloody hell mate its worth more than that as scrap steel 😂😂 bargain of the year dude 😁😁🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘

[@andyjessshears6788]

Awesome video. Got to love the thrill of a runaway. #lovescreamingjimmy

[@jamesmann1243]

Usually on any Detroit Diesel, on the dash somewhere, is a handle that is marked EMERGENCY STOP, that is how you shut down the old 2 stroke Detroits, you are extremely lucky it didnt go into full runaway mode. It would have become very interesting then.

[@JaronLindow]

In this instance, that was unlabeled T-handle connected to a broken cable. And yes, I'm lucky I didn't accidently have a VERY interesting time.

[@backwoodsentertainment358]

Just goes to show you...when you jump on something you have no knowledge about...you can get in trouble or even hurt...fuel shutoff or even a book over the intake to shut air flow..good thing you could "phone a friend "

[@lewiemcneely9143]

I used to run one of these things and hated every second of it. The electric drive caused it to dig leaned over and was very top heavy. The 2-cycle did fine but if the paddle drive had been balanced it'd have been a LOT better. I know the newer ones went to hydraulic on each side. Smart move. Never had anything against RG but this needed more work.

[@bishop9598]

Back in the early/mid-seventies I also ran one these. A close to new 222G. It was a very efficient and very productive machine. I was an operating engineer (Local 675 - Ft Lauderdale) and I was paired with a dragline, a dozer, and a grader. We put in all the rough infrastructure for a unincorporated community of what is now around 40,000 ppl. That thing ran like a dream. I wasn't all that excited initially to run it, but times were getting lean in the hvy equipment/development business. I hadn't ran a pan (scraper) for many years at that point but I actually enjoyed operating the 222G. That is until the interest rate killed off just about all development (IIRC 1976) and the developer put it into 'pause' mode for a few years. By the time they cranked it back up, I had moved on to a white collar job as there was nothing going on with heavy equipment. Anyway, the 222G was a great machine. Just don't run it when it was wet (rain). That could get exciting to say the least. I see many jobs here on YT where one of these (in good running order) could speed up and provide mucho profits on many hvy equipment projects. Also could be a more cost effective alternative to 'tiling' for farms. But excavators have made them not-so-desired, I guess, except in road building projects (which is what I did with my 222G). Good memories.

[@lewiemcneely9143]

@@bishop9598 My deal was dams here in the NC hills and if the blasted motor for the paddles had been balanced on the other side too or hydraulic I'd had no [problem but up here it was top heavy and awkward. Never worked union. Might've been different but it was all open shop here. Out in the sticks. DR Allen started the job and we were helping cap out. I was no stranger to pans or rough places having herded 631's, 619's, TS-14's and 24's and after I got off that thing and on the 8H and got the roads straightened out things were better but that was it for me and the Wobbleco. Buddy of mine turned that thing 90 degrees, put it in gear and it flopped over. They just flopped it back and ran it. That was it for me. Now it's a mower. Some folks say I lived through it. I wonder, sometimes. GBWYou!

[@Weaknees61]

I still run two of these, the single electric motor is the best feature of the machine, almost trouble free, unlike hydraulic motors.

[@lewiemcneely9143]

BLESS you! I couldn't get them to dig flat for anything. Too heavy on the drive side. If they'd just had another motor on the other side to balance it out 9t would've been better for me at least.@@Weaknees61

[@dakkan5433]

You can call it almost ASMR up to 07:16, would be cool to see if it can still do a bit of work ;)

[@JaronLindow]

It was just barely able to drag itself up onto a trailer, so that's a maybe.

[@dakkan5433]

@@JaronLindow Depending on how much time and $ your willing to splash out on it (guessing not thousands hah)

[@JaronLindow]

07:16 engine startup 09:32 engine shutdown

[@darkwingduck3320]

Well done congrats mate

[@FQP-7024]

You got a great deal my friend, actually you remind me of a guy named Matt he also has a youtube channel of some sorts and deals with old Iron and outdated equipment that could use a second lease on life don't know his channel name it's something to do with Diesel... I think, but you got potential just like him

[@natesv04]

Diesel Creek, lmao this guy doesn't know half of what Matt know lol

[@FQP-7024]

@@natesv04 shhh don't give it away you fool I'm trying to nudge him in to a heavy equipment channel, he has the potential that's for sure.

[@nunyabusiness4651]

Of course it'll start it's a Detroit! Those thing never die they just get put away and forgotten! Inefficent by today standards, but durable as hell that engine will outlast that machine for sure! only way to kill them is let them run away though i have seen them run till they seize, then start again after more than once. Amazingly over built engines for sure!

[@Weaknees61]

Not inefficient, I run with with all the modern cats, I move the same dirt for the same fuel each shift, I owe nothing, they all owe their lives, and often have their machine repossessed.

[@paulpruitt2776]

Lots of people commenting but I think the starter hung up because disconnecting battery want turn a dd 71 off

[@timfricker4152]

To shut a big diesel engine down is cover up the air intake if a can't breathe it cannot run and I would have been more worried about oil pressure you can run at big engine for a few minutes without coolant

[@stevengrotte6732]

1:19 the sound has arrived.

[@richardbaumeister466]

Im a bit skeptical about this video in that those batteries looked like they were in there for years and yet still had power??? 20 years and those batteries would have been toast! did you put new batteries in it?

[@JaronLindow]

Borrowed from a dozer. Specifically this one: kzbin.info/www/bejne/p4elfmuXhrerbtk

[@Tchristman100]

Well if you knew the first thing about Detroits was to simply pull the kill lever.

[@mopar3502001]

You're lucky it didn't run away.

[@robertstarkey1634]

Sounds awesome

[@keystonecountryboy]

As mentioned should have pulled valve covers and made sure no stuck injectors, wd40 into exhaust valves wouldn't have really done much good anyhow...

[@superliner19]

Should be a pull cable in the cab to shut it down

[@JaronLindow]

There is now. The wire was broken.

[@jasonwilson1677]

You got schooled you have good motor their

[@Tchristman100]

Whats the reason of pulling the coolant caps on each cylinder and spraying into them-I don't get that.

[@big22diesel]

I'm guessing he confused the water jacket plates with the airbox covers, and was actually trying to lubricate the cylinders through the intake ports.

[@daddywoofdawg]

hell the batteries are worth 300 bucks

[@JaronLindow]

Those were actually borrowed from a dozer.

[@loganzister9344]

92 series?

[@garethifan1034]

$300?? That's about 10% of its scrap iron value..!

[@wdwilson397]

There's at least a couple thousand $ in scrap metal

[@jacobalger3510]

That's a steel sweet

[@terrellscaife2411]

Cool what are you going to use this for

[@JaronLindow]

Not much until it gets new front tires or at least inner tubes. I'm tempted to use it to mow down sage brush on acreage I own.

[@randallbrack2130]

That is unusual. They most commonly had Cummins engines in them instead of Detroit's

[@Weaknees61]

There are three elevating scraper sizes, to this day, 11 yard, 21 yard, and 31 yard nominally. In Wabcos, which led the game until most scraper manufacturers quit in 1982, they all ran Detroits. The 111A had the 471, the 222A had the 8V71, and the 333 had the 12V71. The mighty twinpowers, the 222FT and the 333FT had 2 x 8V71T's and 2 x 12V71T's respectively. The 11 yard was updated to the 101F, then the 101G, I run two of these to this day, they had the 504C Cummins engine, with a Clark auto trans. Both good scrapers. The 252FT was updated to planetary final drives, and had hydraulic elevators, they had a great reputation but I prefer the electric elevators, far more powerful and reliable. They kept the 2 x 8V71T Detroits, with Allison tranys. They had a pinion and bull gear front drive, planetary rear drive. This was updated to the 353FT, the best and biggest elevator ever made, in 1978. I ran one of these for 10 years. Incredible machine. Still operated today by Goodmans in New Zealand, after an incredible complete rebuild. Still running 12V71T Detroits.

[@teamidris]

If it isn’t exciting it isn’t fun :D

[@ryanhunt881]

Where u located?

[@MobileYamTechNC]

So after 20 years it started within 2 seconds of turning over on 20+ year old batteries? LOL ok.. . And $300?? The scrap price alone is $5800

[@martintaylor984]

No way you bought that for 300 bucks scrap value is worth ten times That

[@alkennedy1124]

Pull the throttle peddle up , it has a fuel ⛽️ shot off n it , lol nice good job 👏 thanks lololol funny 😄 nice thanks BigAl California praise Jesus Christ grace amen amen 🙏

[@radioace318la]

lol never a good idea not to have a plan to kill a diesel engine. that's called a Run A Way.

[@trapperbill4962]

some people have no buisness

[@duch3573]

ESSE TRATOR TAVA A VENDA POR 300 DÓLARES?

[@AntonioRodrigues-mv9ok]

Não está a venda! O dono queria o local limpo e o entregou por 300 dólares.

[@artur8403]

For that price there is 10x more as scrap metal. Really cheap

[@fava7753]

Not the brightest bulb in the box . Apart from getting the machine for next to nothing .

[@waynedunne4507]

Should have cut off the air flow to air cleaner.

[@Tchristman100]

What's the big deal It only was running at about 1000rpm.

[@ryanhunt881]

That’s what I thought, it didn’t sound like it was revved up that much but then he said it didn’t have any coolant so he must’ve been more worried about it overheating.

[@0dbm]

I give you $300 for the motor?

[@nattydreadlocks1973]

Disconnect the fuel dummy. 🤣🤣🤣 You ain't a combat veteran until you come under fire. 🤣🤣🤣 The thing is worth $3k in scrap alone.💰💰💰

[@kevinjoyce4497]

Fuel shutoff doesn't work with a runaway Detroit. It runs on oil when it starts to runaway.

[@alexthomas637]

😎😎😎😎👍

[@Rubyranch393]

Ill give you 400

[@chipps1066]

Playing around with heavy machinery you know nothing about is a pretty dangerous hobby.

[@paulpruitt2776]

Why would anyone take off the water manifold covers and put wd 40 in it and then not know there is no water waste of time

[@robertlaager3728]

Could have been nice to watch but lousy camera work cool machine tho.

[@dougburton1999]

Dude you have no Business working on a Detroit engine. Your lucky you didn’t blow the engine with a runaway.

[@JP-cb8bz]

HAHAHA

[@Hestonchandler]

It makes me cringe so hard when people say earth mover I get that’s what it does but just call it by it’s name a scraper

[@paulpruitt2776]

Not scraper it a pan scrapers don't have an elevator

[@IO-zz2xy]

Well that engine in now toast. Think you should learn to code and leave engines to mechanics.

[@JaronLindow]

I bet you're a fella that takes his car to a mechanic to get the oil changed. ;) Also, I've been coding professionally for 23 years. I work with my hands when my brain needs a rest.

[@IO-zz2xy]

@@JaronLindow I would not go to a plumber for cardiac problems either.

[@roaringred]

Motor isn't toast its a 2 stroke detroit it'll sound like it's at 4000 rpm at 2000rpm and those motors will run forever no matter the abuse.

[@christopherhampson265]

@@roaringred probably didn't hit 1200 rpm ! Ace motor for that machine !!!

[@da_SpiffR]

@@JaronLindow For that reply alone, you have my subscription. Way to keep cool and school 'em Jaron!

[@pawe6682]

"I didn't expect this ... but I have to go home" - change my pants🤣🤣..Amazing action💪🏼💪🏼. Applause for composure.👍🏻🫵🏻👍🏻👏🏻👏🏻

[@markissboi3583]

did you know Electricity dont go thru the cable it passes on the outside in waves -\/\/\/\/\/\- This is the new edmachacated Way youtube videos i just wont hold them no matter which way it flows :) always a shocker .

[@markissboi3583]

if they start saying water dont move inside pipes but a force from around the pipes I'm gunna start spiting chips

[@JaronLindow]

I've observed 10 volts AC per foot of wire that I spread out below a high tension line. The circuit was: ungrounded wire to voltmeter, other probe of voltmeter to ground.