I Bought a Lemon Buyback BMW X6M and got 50% off because of a Mystery Electrical Issue

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Samcrac

Samcrac

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@Samcrac
@Samcrac 3 жыл бұрын
Even though I got 50% off on this BMW M Car, it's extremely unreliable. A much better deal would've been 50% or MORE off of a Simplisafe Security System during their biggest sale of the year. Visit SimpliSafe.com/samcrac to learn more!
@Stefan_Smith
@Stefan_Smith 3 жыл бұрын
Got 12 seconds in.. transmission low on fluid isnt it?
@Beer_Dad1975
@Beer_Dad1975 3 жыл бұрын
@@Stefan_Smith It's a little worse than that, it's pretty much FUBAR.
@mixalis6168
@mixalis6168 3 жыл бұрын
i would want at least 80% off !!~
@krisjoha10
@krisjoha10 3 жыл бұрын
Hey sam! I had a bmw from a similar generation with similar problem! Check the rear damper. There is a shim that rust and let the damper go trough and upp in the wiring harness in the back! It then crates a short.
@startingtech3900
@startingtech3900 3 жыл бұрын
Sam why are you so cheap when you are making like 50 grand a month
@SuperMarioDiagnostics
@SuperMarioDiagnostics 3 жыл бұрын
Great to see how it all started with the x6, Sam! I'm honored for the mention, and am looking forward to showing off the X6 in my channel in the near future as well!
@Samcrac
@Samcrac 3 жыл бұрын
Super Mario thanks to your guidance I FOUND THE PROBLEM. I'll be uploading a follow up ASAP! Stand BY!
@1jasonrl
@1jasonrl 3 жыл бұрын
Great video response Super Mario. Electrical probs can be so confusing, but it's clear you have serious skills and experience. I'd trust you with my VW or BMW.
@organiccold
@organiccold 3 жыл бұрын
Sam is Luigi lol
@Alexander_l322
@Alexander_l322 3 жыл бұрын
@@Samcrac tell us soon! I’m on the edge of my seat
@sail420
@sail420 3 жыл бұрын
I love the logical progression of your explanation. I’m going to go suv this one
@brucepeterson3246
@brucepeterson3246 3 жыл бұрын
Hello Sam, too bad you live on the other side of the continent as an electrical engineer could identify the source of your problem. I have some comments based on my observations. Since the center display goes on and stays on when the relay is removed, but appears to be resetting due to apparent power drop when the relay is installed, I would be looking for a module that is pulling too much current when it is activated. Now on the canbus system. Canbus is a multidrop system meaning that all the modules share the same pair of wires for communication and they each have a unique communication address. Mario is correct in that the canbus signal could have a problem. Canbus is a differential pair twisted wire which means both the wires have the same impedance to ground or +12v as this gives the signal better common mode noise immunity. The canbus also has a 124 ohm termination resistor at each physical end of the bus (one is at the master device). You can verify the presence of these resistors on any location in the canbus network across CAN_L and CAN_H - make sure power is off or disconnect the battery. The measured resistance should be about 62 ohms. If the termination is present, the next thing I would do is put an oscilloscope on the operating canbus to make sure the canbus signals are the correct amplitude (about 4V peak to peak). If the canbus checks out, then you can start pulling fuses to find out which module is loading down the +12V distribution bus. If you need more advice, just reach out to me.
@a20axf
@a20axf 3 жыл бұрын
This reminds me of a video I've seen recently regarding canbus... It turned out to be a faulty reverse camera was the issue and was indeed detected by using an oscilloscope. I can't remember the correct terminology but, there is a large main fuse that can often cause similar issues if it's fully broken or potentially cracked enough to make contact sometimes.
@russellhltn1396
@russellhltn1396 3 жыл бұрын
I was thinking CANBUS as well. All it takes is a pinched wire, or a break before the termination and the signals will start bouncing off that "disjoint" and cause all kinds of problems. Normal "chatter" is interpreted as something else causing the car to behave in strange ways. Yet, the problem may not be visible with a regular meter. (But it's a good start.)
@zxggwrt
@zxggwrt 3 жыл бұрын
There is a tool to check the load or rather current on a fuse while it is still in place. If you can't make one then the car wizard featured such a tool recently.
@skynut38
@skynut38 3 жыл бұрын
What is a cannabis system? :)
@supupandaway8138
@supupandaway8138 3 жыл бұрын
Its the fusebox being corroded on the contacts its losing bus communication stick to fixing vcr’s
@mattg4478
@mattg4478 3 жыл бұрын
The Paddle shifters on the steering wheel are not stock. There is a bunch of wonky after market junk on that car. I am thinking its a short or loose wire.
@Proth1975
@Proth1975 3 жыл бұрын
Following this logic, I'd start by looking at stereo/multimedia wiring. From previous Car Wizard videos, the CAN bus is *extremely* finicky when it comes to wiring. Some shop probably did a botch job installing an amp/bluetooth/etc and it's cascading into everything else.
@mcseforsale
@mcseforsale 3 жыл бұрын
@@Proth1975 Exactly. Only use OEM or stuff that plugs into OEM connectors. Even then....be careful!
@ronnymb67
@ronnymb67 3 жыл бұрын
@@Proth1975 I saw that years ago when I worked in Mercedes service. A CLK came in with all sorts of lights flashing, the alarm siren blaring, Etc. Turned out he took it to Best Buy to have some huge sub box installed in the trunk, and they took power from somewhere that they managed it to get into the rear canbus. Fortunately for the manager of Best Buy, the rear canbus was replaceable separately from the entire harness.
@ralphlongo1975
@ralphlongo1975 3 жыл бұрын
Always, always, always, reputable shop if you don't know what you're doing.
@michaelwynne4346
@michaelwynne4346 3 жыл бұрын
My buddy owned a Custom/ window tint shop, he wouldn't touch any German made Vehicle except for wheels and Tint.
@projecteuroau
@projecteuroau 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Sam, I had the same issue as this on my 2008 BMW E70 X5 (same platform). Water was pooling behind the engine partition/cowling near the brake booster and on the other side near the blower motor. It seems to be a common issue with these. You need to make sure those drains are clean (they fill with dirt and leaves) replace the partitions (such a poor design for waterproofing). Anyway, there is a ground cable inside one of those compartments and if it has been sitting outside and filling with water, the cable will corrode. On the other side there is the engine fuse box (another great design). Mine was doing the same headunit flash and no cluster. Hope this helps!
@valvemonky4734
@valvemonky4734 3 жыл бұрын
i follow eric at SMA and the amount of times he has traced electrical fault's down to bad grounds and corrosion in and on the back of fuse boxes ECT sometimes multiple faults like this turn out to be a simple fix but have you pulling the thing to bits and firing the parts canon at it
@ingresswizard9044
@ingresswizard9044 3 жыл бұрын
Sam that rear junction where you pulled that relay from needs to be taken out, opened up and inspected. That relay shows signs of water getting to it and if water got to it then it got in that box and I suspect it is moving around inside of there shorting out various things. I bet you if you open up that rear box and inspect the internals you will find corrosion.
@nicholasvinen
@nicholasvinen 3 жыл бұрын
We didn't see any sign of water anywhere else in that box. I agree with Sam that the stuff there was likely due to it overheating and not water.
@OMGWTFLOLSMH
@OMGWTFLOLSMH 3 жыл бұрын
@@nicholasvinen - It looks like corrosion/oxidation to me.
@caddyguy5369
@caddyguy5369 3 жыл бұрын
Could have even been the result of condensation or often having even a slightly damp trunk for prolonged periods of time. Definitely corrosion by the looks of my phone screen. Overheating generally results in discolored contacts and plastic melting / deforming, especially around the contacts. The socket it plugs into will usually show signs of melt / deformation too.
@peejay1981
@peejay1981 3 жыл бұрын
100% that white power is the remmanints of corrosion. Check the whole box.
@ashleyevans976
@ashleyevans976 3 жыл бұрын
Fair play to Mario. Not many people want to help others anymore
@VincentParisien
@VincentParisien 3 жыл бұрын
I've had a German car develop a similar problem and we traced it down to the CAN wired being fed 12v from the battery. The fine folks at the dealer had sliced through the main harness wires to install a lowjack device and allowed corrosion to set in and eventually bridge a 12v wire to the canbus wires. It would be interesting to see what voltage you have on the CAN wires...
@Deadslowsupra
@Deadslowsupra 3 жыл бұрын
Good start there. I had a e65 7 series have very similar issues. Turned out to be the central gateway module that bridges all the other modules around the car itself.
@Anthfigueroa
@Anthfigueroa 3 жыл бұрын
Trunk gets filled with water usually in right rear trunk area. There is a main harness that runs through there that have Can Bus Splices that usually get filled with corrosion that's my guess.
@derkeksinator17
@derkeksinator17 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, this sounds like an issue with the CAN bus itself. (stuff not turning on/off because it hasn't been told to, K-CAN Errors because the modules cannot be reached...). It could be a broken module as well, which can affect the bus, but that failure mode is very unlikely. Checking the voltages on CAN-H and CAN-L is a good start, maybe a more sophisticated instrument, like a scope, will give you a better insight on what the bus is doing exactly.
@nicolassales8679
@nicolassales8679 3 жыл бұрын
This sounds like noise on the BUS often caused by a bad connector, damaged loom or dodgy sensor!
@manyglegos2512
@manyglegos2512 3 жыл бұрын
CAN network was my first thought. A short of some sort. A scope would show you for sure.
@onemaster3041
@onemaster3041 3 жыл бұрын
Sam continues to provide incredible content for the Bad Decision Making theater.
@Beer_Dad1975
@Beer_Dad1975 3 жыл бұрын
BMW = Badly Made Wobbler.
@konstantinosmaounis798
@konstantinosmaounis798 3 жыл бұрын
Thankfully he does that great so we do not have to
@robevans8625
@robevans8625 3 жыл бұрын
Buying this car is like getting a hooker pregnant.
@Jkur2009
@Jkur2009 3 жыл бұрын
@@Beer_Dad1975 I’m on my 7th consecutive X5 lease and I’ve never had any major issues with any of them. Sure, I’ve had a few minor things here and there but I haven’t had anymore trouble than any other car I’ve owned.
@Beer_Dad1975
@Beer_Dad1975 3 жыл бұрын
@@Jkur2009 Yeah that's because you lease them and send them back before they start to fall apart. That's the only way to go with German cars these days IMO.
@yveslegh
@yveslegh 3 жыл бұрын
Sam, you make me smile...I had the same car with the same problem! Needed to change all electric wire system (it took 3 years for BMW to understand ) ...and took 3 weeks to fix it!
@kmatax9237
@kmatax9237 3 жыл бұрын
3yrs to make bmw understand and 3 weeks to do = 30yrs on this channel
@christopherhamilton5557
@christopherhamilton5557 3 жыл бұрын
2035: “I finally finished my BMW x6M, almost.”
@あーちゃん-z3i7o
@あーちゃん-z3i7o 2 жыл бұрын
@@kmatax9237 by the time he finishes the car is gonna be a classic
@totallybonkers
@totallybonkers 3 жыл бұрын
Mario is an electrical genius! Electronics are a pain, so it's great to have him on your side!
@MartinMurray1966
@MartinMurray1966 3 жыл бұрын
The guy is intelligent and adept at fixing electrical problems, not sure how you would call him a genius though, he didnt even fix it?
@supupandaway8138
@supupandaway8138 3 жыл бұрын
Its the fusebox corroded losing communication the Ford Focus does the same thing because its under the hood in front of the car and it gets soaked then corrodes took me 2 days to figure it out chasing wires from junction box to the fuse box
@htownblue11
@htownblue11 3 жыл бұрын
Super Mario diagnostics is on point. Dude knows his stuff. Great choice to collab Sam.
@derrickg5612
@derrickg5612 3 жыл бұрын
I had a similar problem when I was an Audi tech. I used an oscilloscope to view CAN bus communications. It should be a clean square waveform mirrored across the X axis, CAN-HI and CAN-LOW. What I saw looked more like an analog signal with no symmetry or pattern. I just started disconnecting and reconnecting all the modules until the waveform cleared up. It turned out to be the convince control module which was located under the driver's seat in that model. No visible sign of damage but I found out later the car was flooded at one point.
@SteveDriesen81
@SteveDriesen81 3 жыл бұрын
Someone kept the original wheels because they were probably more worth than the car itself… 😄 hope you can fix it and remove all the hideous (cheap) aftermarket sh*t… good luck sam! 👊🏼
@itsy3h
@itsy3h 3 жыл бұрын
@Dacia Sandero guys I had similar looking wheels on my F10 528i, they most definitely are the base wheels
@TheDirtyBirchTrails
@TheDirtyBirchTrails 3 жыл бұрын
I had a 325xi that had similar issues. Took 1 year and multiple different garage visits but in the end I fixed myself. Turned out about 30 pins of the engine ECU had minor corrosion on them(almost impossible to see). Figured nothing to lose. Cleaned them up with a mild mini brush and cleaned the socket side by inserting and pulling out the main plug about 100 times(also used some contact cleaner and di-electric) and VOILA. Car ran great for another 4 years to be sold later and the same owner still has it today.
@hogwild5844
@hogwild5844 3 жыл бұрын
I note in your video Sam that the car has clearly had an afermarket towbar fitted and coincidentally one of the things on that circuit was a towbar so i am wondering if when it was fitted they messed up the wiring?
@chiefrocka8604
@chiefrocka8604 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah we need Samcrac to put the Towbar through the windshield like he did the R8 with a Sledgehammer Cheers Sammy 🇬🇧
@knavekid
@knavekid 3 жыл бұрын
Driving with the relay removed shouldn't hurt anything. The systems affected are powered through the relay and are simply not active with it removed. My guess is that one of those systems is causing the problem when powered. I would pull all the fuses downstream of the relay and plug it back in. It probably won't chatter. Then, plug the fuses in one at a time to isolate the problem.
@channell11
@channell11 3 жыл бұрын
Used that same method in the past to identify random power draws. Hook a multimeter up to the battery and power each system and see what's drawing more than it should with the car off.
@nomebear
@nomebear 3 жыл бұрын
My Mercedes has a relay just like the one shown that must be replaced once in awhile. It lives in the trunk by the battery. When it's contacts become dirty it causes all kinds of performance problems.
@gepwxaqdfsidsesg1548
@gepwxaqdfsidsesg1548 3 жыл бұрын
I agree. Something which that relay is powering is causing the issues. Pulling the relay robs that thing of power and the problems go away. In fact I bet if you pull all of the fuses that power things after that relay then the relay will stop chattering. Probably the central module sends a CAN signal to switch the relay on, this powers the bad module which trashes the CANbus, so the relay goes off. Now the CANbus is ok so the relay comes on again. The situation will just oscillate between the two states and you have a chattering relay.
@domkraggp9944
@domkraggp9944 3 жыл бұрын
@@gepwxaqdfsidsesg1548 Sam I hope ure reading this
@dholzric1
@dholzric1 3 жыл бұрын
I agree. With the relay pulled, something isnt being powered. Find out what receives power when the relay is on and you might know what is the cause of the issue.
@ralphlongo1975
@ralphlongo1975 3 жыл бұрын
As a car audio guy, I would swap out the relay to just make sure it acts wrong too,. It's a standard style relay, a simple 4 dollar one would probably do the trick but I would verify it with the relay pinouts on each relay. I would do this even though it's reading fine, just so I didn't run around pulling everything out of the car to fix a slightly bad relay, even though it is likely fine.
@kasha8019
@kasha8019 3 жыл бұрын
K-can is used to talk to power windows, door locks, radio, sunroof and those kinds of accessories. It is different than the can bus high and low that the pcm and tcm use to talk to eachother. K-can simply uses something like Morris code to move your windows up down, lock unlock doors etc. Every command had a different pattern to tell the body control module what to do. Since there is a junction box that means that a module that runs through the box is freaking out. Get a diagram and disconnect one by one every module that runs through that junction box until everything starts working besides the module you disconnected.
@DavidM-sx5gp
@DavidM-sx5gp 3 жыл бұрын
My thought exactly
@TimHunold
@TimHunold 3 жыл бұрын
I had two E71 X6Ms and loved them both. Racechip on one that made it bonkers. One was wrecked, the other traded in for a newer X6M. I can tell you the battery coding was a bit of trouble. Both my cars had all the options and the only defect for real was the windshield strip peeling back off at high speeds.
@gerardmackenzie5686
@gerardmackenzie5686 3 жыл бұрын
Does the racechip works have it on my x5m i honestly can't tell if it does i have the app and everything and i bought the black series.
@uncommonlogic1698
@uncommonlogic1698 3 жыл бұрын
Armchairing here a bit.... Scope the canbus, one of the modules is sending corrupt data, looks to be triggering safety relay. De-pin each canbus pair and test for faulty signal. It looks like failure is detected by simple power-on ( since it does it ignition on) Don't forget to look at harnesses under the hood and under the car, chaffing could be be the issue, actual canbbus pair shorting to ground. Since the car shifted to park a few times, I would definitely check the transmission harness, every Mm of it. Good luck Chicken man
@NourHummadi
@NourHummadi 3 жыл бұрын
As a bmw channel, I just have to mention that you got the dream spec x6m 😍😍
@Matt-yv6yu
@Matt-yv6yu 3 жыл бұрын
Curious, what makes this a dream spec of the x6m?
@802Garage
@802Garage 3 жыл бұрын
@@Matt-yv6yu Probably the color combo and a performance pack option if it has one.
@richsmith3300
@richsmith3300 3 жыл бұрын
Badly made wankwagon B m w
@davyhay1
@davyhay1 3 жыл бұрын
I had nearly the exact same thing happen to my 135i. In my case, water had gotten into the trunk and soaked the keyless entry module, parking assist module, and I think the comfort access module. When I unplugged these, the car worked fine, just without these features.
@dennisfahey2379
@dennisfahey2379 3 жыл бұрын
The CanBus is a network with a plurality of subordinate microcomputers below. All the modules in the car talk to a master module and share segments of that network. One bad module can clobber the messaging of all the other good modules randomly. There are CanBus analyzers that will report when messages get corrupted and even say who was involved. Ideally the modules will identify their failure and just nicely code out but if something is really wrong (broken pin etc) then it can do this. IE: It can clobber a message if it does not detect the message is in progress. If the module you replaced is oscillating the cutoff relay then some stimulus to it specifically is making is do so. So I'd focus on errors coming specifically out of it. Of course if its the master the errors may be a subordinate. Okay - so what is coming from the subordinates that is of a magnitude that a cutoff would be necessitated? Since the relay is chattering ( which would heat it up ) then is it possible to pull easy to access subordinate modules and just see if the chattering stops? I'm surprised the shop manual does not have a flow chart.
@jensharbers6702
@jensharbers6702 3 жыл бұрын
Funny thing is, a Land Rover (Based on the BMW X5 E53) didn't turn on, because one Headlight Module shorted the bus system. Gosh dang was that a hassle to find, unplugged it and it fired right up.
@davylad4804
@davylad4804 3 жыл бұрын
Is that relay not 'fail open' ie closed contact to power up the systems and open to cutoff? So pulling the relay would by default cut off the systems and and not have them running with the relay out?
@efrenvazquez2585
@efrenvazquez2585 3 жыл бұрын
The shop manuals are interactive programs on a computer, unlike lets say Chevy which is a printed page of instructions and a flow chart.
@dennisfahey2379
@dennisfahey2379 3 жыл бұрын
@@efrenvazquez2585 - Does the shop manual identify the modules and their PN's and firmware revs? Does ODBII and CANBUS allow you to find if all modules are "right" and updated? I suppose that takes a BMW specific reader.
@efrenvazquez2585
@efrenvazquez2585 3 жыл бұрын
@@dennisfahey2379 yeah when performing a scan the bmw software talks to each module and awaits a response from each one. If one the response isn’t there it yellows the module indicating an issue on the module tree which all the other ones with good comm. are green. from there if you have a bit of communication you can get the PN And “integration level” of the module. If the module is not communicating it will show up in red.
@justinweaver7553
@justinweaver7553 3 жыл бұрын
I took the week long training course for BMW body electronics and it was brutal, less than 50% pass rate. Removing modules to check CAN communication is not what they want you to do....Y-cables and break out box
@duarteandrade7880
@duarteandrade7880 3 жыл бұрын
I may not the greatest fan of the X6, but I love these troubleshooting stories, I'll be looking forward to see if you can fix this one
@curtishouze1471
@curtishouze1471 3 жыл бұрын
I love the collaboration of both channels helping each other out.
@jond1536
@jond1536 3 жыл бұрын
I think a three way collaboration with Sam's Stepmom would do wonders for the diagnosis of the "Problem" Great content
@_BAD_MERC_
@_BAD_MERC_ 3 жыл бұрын
Relays are so simple and even though yours passes a test, it may fail under load. 85 and 86 only activate the coil. 30 and 87 (the big ones) need to be jumped to test this.
@dougcamilo1653
@dougcamilo1653 3 жыл бұрын
Im intrigued on this one. Hurry up get that next video up bro!!!
@OMGWTFLOLSMH
@OMGWTFLOLSMH 3 жыл бұрын
Check back in 3-4 weeks.
@tarivard
@tarivard 3 жыл бұрын
We had an X5 do that. A detail shop used a pressure washer in the engine bay and caused the electronics to go wonky. It took the dealer a week to sort it out and cost the detailer a few grand to repair it.
@EBK_iN_MY_DNA
@EBK_iN_MY_DNA 2 жыл бұрын
Damn that’s crazy, lack of quality… I’ve seen older bmws get engine bats washed and not have any issues, German cars + water = disaster
@a2cryss
@a2cryss 3 жыл бұрын
Brings back memories of my auction BMW and the Christmas tree of warnings and errors that I had to clear through various means. It took a couple weeks to get them all. Good Luck Sam.
@timtimtimmay4654
@timtimtimmay4654 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder if it is trailer wiring. I've seen that go pretty bad on all kinds of cars on multiple occasions just due to the elements and location.
@DMF351
@DMF351 3 жыл бұрын
I can’t watch your videos before bed, I had a terrible nightmare. I owned a BMW With electrical issues. It was horrible worst nightmare I’ve ever had. Thanks Sam😀
@thetechgenie7374
@thetechgenie7374 3 жыл бұрын
I have that car it likely going to be the central CAN bus module, or other module on bus, or corrosion in harness, as had similar issue. Thankfully got it cheap for very reason and did trace it down and fixed it. You have the right idea process of elimination pretty much? Find what circuits those relay are on and trace it out. Look at schematics it help you break down the individual systems and you can trace easier and find the fault or bad module quicker. That relay being melted something likely drawing excessive current, or from kicking on and off so may times as for cutoff? Yep costly and unreliable but smooth when it works. Had to put 4K in parts as had other issues as well and many days of labor to get it right. Pretty sure something else will break like any BMW I owned over the years? I would inspect that rear junction as well for signs of corrosion?
@nigelw598
@nigelw598 3 жыл бұрын
Gday Sam, I’m working on a John Deere skid steer at the moment. Had half a dozen codes including Can Bus data rate transfer faults. The fuse and relay box had enough garbage and moisture in there that you could grow vegetables! Cleaned it all out, contact cleaned all the holders and cleaned the terminals. Also cleaned all the grounds. No more bad codes and running great! Good luck man 👍👍🍻
@TheBackyardHappens
@TheBackyardHappens 3 жыл бұрын
I worked on a magnum that had the exact same electrical problems. It was running, loud fan, no cluster, the works. It turned out to be a faulty key sensor antenna and key switch.
@XcoolcoolbeansbeansX
@XcoolcoolbeansbeansX 3 жыл бұрын
This car has literally nothing in common with a magnum. The BMW runs on Canbus, linbus, and flex-ray with individual modules for everything. nothing anolog wired directly like a magnum
@TheBackyardHappens
@TheBackyardHappens 3 жыл бұрын
@@XcoolcoolbeansbeansX true, but i said it had the same symptoms. Maybe there's an issue with the system that recognizes the key and turns all the other hamster wheels of the car. I would hope its that simple anyway. Prices on some of those parts get into arm, leg, and first born range 🤣
@kosmotini
@kosmotini 3 жыл бұрын
Agree with the comment regarding removing fuses downlink from relay, reinstall 1 at a time until issue re appears. This may help isolate issue. I was in electronic troubleshooting business all my career. It's so often eliminate its not to find what it is. Good luck. Can't wait to see results
@TheBackyardHappens
@TheBackyardHappens 3 жыл бұрын
@@kosmotini nothing worse than swapping a fuel pump or a bunch of sensors only to find out it was a fuse. Really chaps the wallet too.
@kef103
@kef103 3 жыл бұрын
Sam I use a flir thermal camera . It can be helpful to diagnose electrical issues .
@TiptronicSS
@TiptronicSS 3 жыл бұрын
"When other drivers see that I'm driving a BMW, they'll understand" 😂😂😂 good one, very good one 😂
@muskokamike127
@muskokamike127 3 жыл бұрын
6:50 sorry 12.1 v is NOT a good battery. It's not necessarily a bad battery, but the voltage should be up around 13 volts min.
@HaltonLax44
@HaltonLax44 3 жыл бұрын
Pretty ridiculous that BMW couldn’t solve these issues with “certified technicians” but a weekend warrior can. I love that. I’ve thoroughly enjoy diving into any troubles myself and fixing them. Save a hell of a lot of money too !!
@xxz1434
@xxz1434 3 жыл бұрын
its not that they can't, they just dont want to, they'd rather have you trade it in for a new model
@arthurbiringer5676
@arthurbiringer5676 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! My 2013 328i had an issue turning all the lights on on the dash! Simple repair! Replace the left rear wheel sensor and drive away. I replaced it months ago and all is good!
@krisholt
@krisholt 3 жыл бұрын
I had a similar problem with my wifes Peugeot, it turnet out to be a faulty aftermarked Yatour bluetooth adapter connected to the radio, shortening the canbus connection that ran instrument cluster, climate control, radio and some other stuff. It took me months to finally find the fault, once the Yatour module was disconnected, the car worket perfect again.
@dougowens2686
@dougowens2686 3 жыл бұрын
I have heard that before on other cars what a pain
@dougowens2686
@dougowens2686 3 жыл бұрын
I picked up a mini cooper at auction with interment issues causing a transmission failure after tracing out every can buss wire and checking each module i was baffled I got lucky and found on a forum a guy reported a bad tach after looking again i miss read the wiring diagram and that was the only module i did not disconnect after disconnecting it the car was fine it amazed me a bad tach could cause so many issues can`t wait for the next video
@jm100368
@jm100368 3 жыл бұрын
A cracked piece of plastic Sam: "I've never seen anything like that"
@Adam_Lynn
@Adam_Lynn 3 жыл бұрын
Lies! Lmao
@lawnside82
@lawnside82 3 жыл бұрын
Is it me, or does sam act like he doesnt know whats going on with the car when its obvious he is well aware....i guess its for views.
@ShiftingSkys
@ShiftingSkys 2 жыл бұрын
The auction houses try to hide as many issues as possible. They will take weird angle pics
@cvr24
@cvr24 3 жыл бұрын
I fixed an 06 Mini Cooper with similar goofiness. Water corroded a junction plug that the sole function if was to connect the two halves of the car harness together at the factory. Bypassed it with solder and heat shrink, fixed 100%.
@jimf5160
@jimf5160 3 жыл бұрын
a friend of mine had one of these..it drove great and the seats were amazingly comfortable... but the front end was partially removed by a crossing car at an intersection. The estimate to repair was $42,000.
@EBK_iN_MY_DNA
@EBK_iN_MY_DNA 2 жыл бұрын
Damn that sucks
@garrettabcdefg4602
@garrettabcdefg4602 3 жыл бұрын
That puma track suit should be your new permanent uniform Sam Edit. The lemon Lincoln was one of my favorite series!
@Mrflash222006
@Mrflash222006 3 жыл бұрын
Looking at the aftermarket tat - make sure it doesn’t have cheap LED bulbs in any of the lights, they can take out the K-line - I have seen this sort of weirdness on a 2011 M5
@alanlozano6535
@alanlozano6535 3 жыл бұрын
yeah, high power leds can screw up the module in charge of light management and other things on the cam bus
@jarnotyni3207
@jarnotyni3207 3 жыл бұрын
This
@Mrflash222006
@Mrflash222006 3 жыл бұрын
@@jarnotyni3207 That, See the latest vid - Hint: The sunroof did it
@atrain132
@atrain132 Жыл бұрын
40 seconds in, and I'm getting flashbacks from an E34 I used to have that would give me the same problem. It turned out to be the grounding wire connected to the chassis. I also had somewhat of similar issues on an E38 which turned out to be a worn out voltage regulator.
@kewlztertc5386
@kewlztertc5386 3 жыл бұрын
Put the relay back in, and remove the fuses one by one. Once you remove the one causing the relay to trigger, you'll know where your problem is.
@coolarrow9127
@coolarrow9127 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, the problem Mario had my 550i had the same problem on same DME 2 and even the same transistor, this dude it by far the best at what he does.
@goodguygto
@goodguygto 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Sam I love your channel I've been subscribed for the past three-and-a-half, 4-years! keep up the great work!👍 I especially love the lemons that you get!!😂😂😂
@copmy
@copmy Жыл бұрын
I have owned a BMW in the past and after 5 yrs of ownership, it cost me over $18k for the services and maintenance from the BMW dealer. I had had enough of constant costs of time and money to bring it in for services. Driving was very nice, exciting, and enjoyable, but the headaches were non-stop on the long-distance driving with a reliable issue, a major worried for me. I am glad, those days are long gone and over.
@gianfrancoa
@gianfrancoa 3 жыл бұрын
Always great to see Sam using the parts cannon on these BMWs
@TwentytenS4B8
@TwentytenS4B8 3 жыл бұрын
Sam I'd start suspecting the gateway module. ALL modules on the CAN bus run through it. And when you scan the car for codes, you are not scanning the module directly. You are scanning it through the gateway module. Remember when Hoovie bought that green Mercedes in NY and tried to drive it back to Kansas and the gauges started turning off and on and the car would randomly shut off certain functions to include the engine running? He had a bad gateway.
@AutoAuctionRebuilds
@AutoAuctionRebuilds 3 жыл бұрын
I learned that BMWs are awful vehicles. And I love them 😍
@clifbradley
@clifbradley 3 жыл бұрын
Randy learns from his mistakes....he learns people will watch him make them and he can get paid for it.
@edukg5668
@edukg5668 3 жыл бұрын
Lol
@startingtech3900
@startingtech3900 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely not awful. You just buy shtters randy
@konstantintomilin1826
@konstantintomilin1826 3 жыл бұрын
They are awesome vehicles if serviced correctly. Unfortunately, it is often not the case
@clifbradley
@clifbradley 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not a BMW fan. Had one a one a long time ago and it was financially ruinous. But I do like the X6 and especially the M and GT versions. There is a guy that lives not far from me and he has 4 BMW SUV's. He has a metallic green X6M that was designed to look like the Green Goblin from the Tobey McGuire Spider-Man. Another X6GT that is done in stealth black ceramic and chrome black highlights with oversized wheels and rear spoilers. The inside is black leather with yellow piping. It looks like a Batman vehicle. He has an X2 in pearl white and chrome metallic blue that resembles R2D2 and an X5 that is painted by hand in varying shades of tan, green, black, brown and cream. Has giant tires, winch, roof rack with spare gas cans, water cans, sand ramps, shovels, axes, tent and stove. Inside is a custom gun rack, 4 full plate carriers and ammo cans plus magazines. He's totally nuts and you can see him in his driveway yelling at his cars. Cursing at them for not working. Then he gets in his Ferrari 488 Speciale and leaves. I tell him all the time to start a KZbin channel or TikTok. But he won't.
@MrHC1983
@MrHC1983 Жыл бұрын
Yeh what I learned from that was to start pulling fuses from that panel ..... and see if eventually you find one where the dash etc all comes back up working then you'll know what to look at to fix it.
@s.mas.w
@s.mas.w 3 жыл бұрын
I almost bought an identical X6 a few years ago. So glad I didn’t. BMW has allowed themselves to forget what made them a producer of great drivers cars, sacrificing this for profits.
@BIack-Moon
@BIack-Moon 2 жыл бұрын
It's a common issue with a lot of cars where car manufacturers with poor design placement for module sometime the TCM, ECM etc is located in an area where it's going to get too hot or it's going to get wet
@danielhurley7018
@danielhurley7018 3 жыл бұрын
Calling it now - Oct 2025's video "I've finally sorted my BMW X6M".
@iosonogerva1989
@iosonogerva1989 3 жыл бұрын
90% sure that a can line is shorted, either to the positive, the ground or another signaling line. Removing the junction box helped because it disconnected the faulty (the one with the short) from the other module. It seems that the box you removed is like an hub for the various can and other communication system in the car
@thejourneymen7722
@thejourneymen7722 3 жыл бұрын
That looks like a car that has been wrecked and pieced back together by a shotty rebuilder like rich rebuilds.🤣🤣
@jimmyaber5920
@jimmyaber5920 3 жыл бұрын
Send it Rich for a Tesla drive swap. I hear he has one of those lying about.
@CoreMaster111
@CoreMaster111 3 жыл бұрын
He wouldn't be rich if he didn't do shoddy rebuilds.
@christopherhamilton5557
@christopherhamilton5557 3 жыл бұрын
@@jimmyaber5920 👏👏👏😂😂😂
@christyrell
@christyrell 3 жыл бұрын
Haters going to hate.
@ChrisLincolnHomes
@ChrisLincolnHomes 3 жыл бұрын
One of the better guys on electrical issues is Mr.O from The South Main Auto Channel. Guy is a master when it comes to chasing down electrical issues.
@urbanjungle9600
@urbanjungle9600 3 жыл бұрын
Super Mario seems like a genius - I think a more in depth collaboration with him would be a very interesting video.
@damianwright6819
@damianwright6819 3 жыл бұрын
My solution to CAN bus problems in the past has been to pull all the fuses, get the car to stable (mostly not working state) and then replace fuses until I see the fault re-appear. That would generally (but not always) be my culprit. water commonly gets to where the spare is and BMW seems to think this is a great place to put your electronics. I've had bad bluetooth and towbar modules that caused these types of problems.
@ThatDIYguy862
@ThatDIYguy862 3 жыл бұрын
I was just thinking as I was watching this that mario would be the perfect person for the job
@pmgear
@pmgear 3 жыл бұрын
super mario is a fantastic source to learn about trouble shooting electrical issues in cars
@michaelkhair5846
@michaelkhair5846 3 жыл бұрын
I noticed water intrusion on the junction box itself when he pulled it out. How did you miss that?
@ATLTraveler
@ATLTraveler 9 ай бұрын
Considering there was 90K miles on it and I can see a ton of after market crap on that (the grill, the paddle shifters, the oil cap). I bet the owner installed something that messed up the electrical system and then BMW wasn’t able to figure it out so had to buy it back under just before the warranty was up. I guarantee when you find the issue it’s going to be some dumb user error thing or him trying to install some stupid under glow or something else dumb.
@jimamizzi1
@jimamizzi1 3 жыл бұрын
I’m sure you’ll fix it sam, between you and your support network it’ll happen 🇳🇿
@michaelyounes29
@michaelyounes29 3 жыл бұрын
Great video xxx BMW's in the U.K genuinely have a good reputation when it comes to reliability!!
@Puundawg
@Puundawg 3 жыл бұрын
Get a Klein wire tracer and trace the cables that stem from that relay back to the terminal and so on. You will find your issue in no time. 🤓
@JamesDean-yo8wm
@JamesDean-yo8wm 3 жыл бұрын
so i have a 2004 745i that's doing basically the same thing... idrive stops working, gauges stop working entirely, power steering gets incredibly tight, the suspension goes into some kind of limp mode, my gas gauge and my miles until empty quits working as well, along with the airbag system as well as a few other things... so like i said very very similar to what was going on with yours. i don't drive it much because of it. i paid 300 bucks for it and i love it. also it has no power brakes... like they work they're just unassisted. so you basically have to stand on them with all your weight if you want to make a quick stop. and when i say stand i mean like legit stand lol... i don't think that's a related issue though as there was some kinda recall on that like a long time ago. Not to mention the brakes have been that way since day one of my ownership. Anyways, all that other stuff was randomly happening when i first got it and it had a slow drain on the battery. now it is pretty much like that every time you get into it. the battery dies overnight even though its an expensive af interstate AGM and everything hardly ever works. But, I've hit bumps and had everything come back to life for a few minutes for it all to just fail again and i feel like that could cause the relay to trip and work momentarily especially if corroded and failing. I'm so thankful you showed me this video with your BMW's issue because i was thinking wire harness or something which would be a big ol pain in that car. So, at the very least this gives me a much cheaper and easier direction to go first before i go into completely ripping this apart. i have enough to do with the brake booster, plugs, coils, and valve cover leakage. probably cooling stuff too as its an older BMW lol (Bring More Water). but i honestly love the car and hope to completely restore it to the way she was meant to be. everyone hates on that body style especially the rear end but i love it... idc what they think lol... Thanks Sam!!! I really appreciate it!!!
@kenseagle4169
@kenseagle4169 3 жыл бұрын
Sam created a new tool. The “Allen head Torx” wtg Sam.
@akh_mohd
@akh_mohd 3 жыл бұрын
I have a german car which developed similar issue with electronic flickering on and off, at the end we figured out that all the fuses where the original one from the company and as the car was 10 years old there were corrosion over the pins of most of the fuses, after cleaning them...the car runs completely fine.
@patrickm3534
@patrickm3534 3 жыл бұрын
I bought a lemoned out Nissan Titan XD with a Cummins diesel in Wisconsin that came from Florida. I've owned it a year now with only very minor problems.
@chucksaunders7574
@chucksaunders7574 3 жыл бұрын
Im an electrical tech, and that relay is water damaged . You can see the rust seeping out of the case. I would start with replacing it first and then the fuse box it was located in and check any modules in that area for water damage . Remove some plugs and see if there is corrosion. Good luck and let me know if you need any help.
@damonstr
@damonstr 3 жыл бұрын
My first thought was just go try to disconnect each module separately.
@steptoeandson3554
@steptoeandson3554 3 жыл бұрын
Canbus line grounded or shorted might be water ingress into a component or wiring harness connection. Check for water under carpets, I'm sure i saw a drop from the glovebox screw at 9.40. If itwas water check evaporator drain clear, if windshield has been replaced that bonding is correct and check scuttle panel drains aren't blocked with leaves etc as water will cascade into car through heater air intake.
@jasona8964
@jasona8964 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for being my eyes and ears in the European car market! I'm gonna stay with Japanese cars lol
@sheaarnold
@sheaarnold 3 жыл бұрын
Sam this is one of my favorite videos of yours so far. Incredibly informative. The X6 is an awesome car. Gotta love the BMWs, for better or worse.
@ActionHeinz
@ActionHeinz 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder when this will finally be not finished.
@Samcrac
@Samcrac 3 жыл бұрын
Underrated comment
@gianfrancoa
@gianfrancoa 3 жыл бұрын
Lol, the best comment ever. I think Sam is in a tie with Rich on unfinished projects. The Ferrari takes the cake
@KarelBeelaertsvanBlokland
@KarelBeelaertsvanBlokland 3 жыл бұрын
BRAVO not being afraid to tackle this Electric problem!
@timtam6442
@timtam6442 3 жыл бұрын
Best looking paperweight I ever saw
@lonman154
@lonman154 3 жыл бұрын
As a new owner of an older BMW with a few issues…. Well maybe a little more then a few but I am knocking them off one by one. I sure did enjoy this video. I can’t wait to see the next video. Thanks for sharing.
@18t4motion
@18t4motion 3 жыл бұрын
Not quite another outright "L" for Sam... but I fear we'll never know what actually happens with this X6M..#60%completeislife
@dirtyvegas6275
@dirtyvegas6275 3 жыл бұрын
trunk button is on the center dash under the number 4 on the CD changer. no power steering means the alternator also ain't working so battery is low & the car should go into a limp mode or "randomly" throw its self in park. also check the transfer case actuator .
@lvthud
@lvthud 3 жыл бұрын
Having spent more than my fair share of time working on car electrical systems, this is screaming "grounding issue" to me.
@simpleinseattle
@simpleinseattle 3 жыл бұрын
My 7 series had a fuse behind the dash that was shared across numerous computers. Want to say it was #3 or #5. The comfort access handle wiring would short and cause the fuse to blow.
@NK-Repairs
@NK-Repairs 3 жыл бұрын
I dont really like suv's but man, that thing is beautiful
@tmharks1
@tmharks1 3 жыл бұрын
Appears to be a short in whatever is tied to that module. Visual inspections is one way, or put the relay back and if possible start disconnecting inputs to module checking each time if the overload goes away
@Koolicyde
@Koolicyde 3 жыл бұрын
Shame that they stole the M wheels off of it.
@stevehammond2016
@stevehammond2016 3 жыл бұрын
Sam , I've been going back over your past episodes , if you will and as I have become very impressed with your tenacity to complete your objective . I'm viewing the range rover escapades right now and as I look at the total of what you allow us to see . There's one thing that does come to mind . " You're a busy guy " !
@danh3008
@danh3008 3 жыл бұрын
I guess Samcrac is starting a German junkyard. 😂
@sadboiantonio
@sadboiantonio 2 жыл бұрын
18:00 from what i learned from during window tinting is that usually water gets into those parts of the car if people dont place a towel on it.
@mustangthings
@mustangthings 3 жыл бұрын
Cheap M car with electrical issues? How hard can it be?
@philtucker1224
@philtucker1224 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Sam, that episode was pretty fascinating coupled with (the possibility) of repairing those electrical faults and making that into a really wonderful, valuable car again! 😊😊😊😊
@emreconklu3498
@emreconklu3498 3 жыл бұрын
Would it be possible to replace the ECU, each module and rewire the harness to fix the problems? My feelings are if it could have been done then BMW NA would have paid to get it done. Or maybe once a car floods then it’s toast?
@jokerash
@jokerash 3 жыл бұрын
no, if you replace the ECU you need to reprogram it, the donor module must be reset in order to be able to install it in your car. Most probably it has a CAN interference from bad / corroded wires, putting the CAN bus to ground or to voltage (which is bad in both situations). It is a pain to troubleshoot, you need to measure the CAN wires with all modules disconnected, and then put 1 by 1 and test again.
@passingasgarage2375
@passingasgarage2375 3 жыл бұрын
Sam, Love the Video's and I got my Simplisafe by ordering thru you link......and I couldn't be happier and the wife........couldn't be happier. It is simple, but sophisticated and the doorbell camera is awesome. Download the app on your phone and you have total control!!!!! More control than you have with this BMW!!!!!!!!!
@abigalanderson7494
@abigalanderson7494 3 жыл бұрын
A firearm is the right tool to keep your home safe.
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