I Bought a PRE-BUILT PC in JAPAN [RTX 3080]

[@NihongoGamer]

Absolutely LOVING the advice I'm receiving here in the comments! Keep it coming! One correction from the video: I was wrong. I just looked inside the case and discovered there IS in fact a fan at the front of the case. I can't return the PC according to the store policy but I'm looking forward to using your advice and trying out various upgrades, maybe in future videos!

[@joobaggs6886]

first cheap mod I would do is get a few case fans and add some to the front and top of the case, making sure they blow in from the front and out from the top! also change out the cpu cooler to a socket 1700 compatible 120mm tower cooler. those run as cheap as $20!

[@joobaggs6886]

Dawid Does Tech Stuff does a lot of upgrading prebuilt pc videos.

[@jamesherman3750]

So from the first 5 seconds some signs are pointing out to me. Mustard cables is a nono, replace that power supply with a corsair brand. Duel channel ram is nice and upgrade that CPU cooler if you can. That case is pretty bad too, hope it has some airflow. I think you got ripped off in this one. Only thing that looks decent is the motherboard and the graphics card.

[@jamesherman3750]

@@joobaggs6886 Can vouch Dawid

[@Zerow45yw]

I'd consider changing the case, the stock cpu cooler and the power supply Case looks like it will lack airflow, the cooler is probably fine but if you want to run demanding workloads such as rendering or video editing you may want a better cooler or it might thermal throttle. Also I don't know the wattage of the power supply but that is usually the thing prebuilts skimp on the most. But damn yo, I'd like that case for a home NAS server, it has so many drive bays

[@kaibum9701]

this .

[@SmollPanda]

I agree with the case and power supply but isn't the stock cpu cooler enough if he doesn't plan any overclocking ?

[@Zerow45yw]

@@SmollPanda I'm not exactly sure tbh, this is intel's new stock cooler that just came out, it seems to be better than their previous one. I'm sure it would work fine if you don't need it for production purposes. But this requires testing. It all depends on how long you plan on running your cpu at high workloads.

[@bigdubyuh7901]

@@Zerow45yw a stock intel cooler is still a stock intel cooler the new ones still suck just as bad

[@Janoww]

@@bigdubyuh7901 yeah, and the fact that there is no airflow doesn't help

[@Glacius91]

That case is going to get super toasty. I agree with the other comments that you should upgrade the case, the CPU fan, and the PSU.

[@mysketchbook3402]

Yes I concur.

[@MrFido7up]

@Buddy Munro really ? 1 single exhaust fan 120mm is enough to cool his entire pc ? Did you see the specs ? The gpu will throttle for sure and all the hot air is not getting out which will throttle the cpu also

[@MrFido7up]

@Buddy Munro when you wrote this "Nah I'd leave it like that, Just add a 120/140 and a new power supply." without mentioning modding or write the word mod it will imply you add a fan where you have fan mounting holes which is only the exhaust place. and btw even modding is not easy + require tools and if you think about it someone who is buying a prebuilt most likley wont be a modder person.

[@nikolaikai940]

Regarding the 3080, at 6:00 you mention it toasting the PCIe below it. Actually the fans on the GPU are intake, not exhaust. They pull air from inside the case and blow it out the back where all the USB ports etc. are. Just let the PC run a game for a minute and hold your hand towards the back, you'll see. PCIe below might even benefit from this, since the intake airflow actually might pull air across the PCIe below it. lol Just have good strong fans in the front so you get enough room temp air into the case. Regarding the case, others have already mentioned it not being the best, but it doesn't look that bad either, personally I wouldn't worry too much. If you want to replace the case, I'd go for Corsair. Or look at a couple Gamers Nexus case reviews here on youtube. If you just want to upgrade the fans, go for Noctua. They're best in class at combining top performance with low noise. Btw, I think the credit card company being "woah, what's going on" is a good thing. It's part of their/scam fraud protection for unusual purchases. Same thing happened to me when I went to Japan, they were like: "Why are we getting purchases from the other end of the world all of a sudden?!" 😅

[@MarkSxi]

You definitely want to change that case as soon as possible, the way it's setup right now you only have an exhaust, there is no fresh air coming in and through the computer, since japan is basically entering cold temperatures pretty soon it probably won't overheat but during the summer you will run into thermal throttling issues where both the cpu and gpu will lower their performance to keep the temperatures at bay.... which isn't ideal and also running the components near their thermal limit is bad for longevity and lifespan. Get a case with a front mesh panel that allows good airflow and consider putting at least 2 intake fans at the front and 1 exhaust at the back, also consider possibly upgrading to a better cooler( there's the Hyper 212 black that does a much better job at cooling that cpu and isn't pricy at all, there's also a noctua nh-u12 going for around 45 dollars on amazon that would do an awesome job at keeping your temperatures cool). And yes please upgrade that powersupply as well, aside from the ugliness and bad look of those yellow mustard cables the PSU's efficiency rating seems kinda.... "sus" and hard to believe considering most of the gold efficiency rated PSU don't usually look like that... Which is bad when you're trying to push clean power through the rest of your components and making sure you are not exceeding the electricity bill. If you don't mind upgrading those things and expending a little bit more money than you already paid for that "System" then you'd do yourself a BIG favor in the long run considering that the things you HAVE TO upgrade are not really expensive at all.

[@doublevendetta]

Color of PSU shroud and cabling is absolutely not a good judge of quality. There are plenty of legitimate PSUs that look just like that, and likewise absolute garbage units that look "quality" by your metrics

[@MarkSxi]

@@doublevendetta You got me there, I do have to agree that it doesn't determine the quality of the unit but it's a lot more common to see this type of manufacturing and sleeving in lower quality PSU's(unless it's business marketed/oriented), at least speaking from experience, which is why i said it looked of dubious quality, granted it may just been a shallow assumption from my part since we're not really given the model or details about the unit that's in the system.

[@alexxanderEA]

As other have mentioned, I'd recommend getting a new case. The 3080 is really powerful so it will generate a lot of heat, even in medium load. The case needs spots for at least two more fans but honestly I recommend more. Personally I have 3 intake fans in the front, 2 exhaust on top, and 1 exhaust fan in the back of my case (this is not counting the fans on my cpu and gpu) on the Corsair 4000D Airflow.

[@2JZDestroyer]

500d here how are those temps?

[@MarchHare2009]

Congrats on getting the computer. In America the trend for enthusiast gaming computer cases is to have a mesh front panel that lets air circulate inside the case and a window on the side, and it's rare to have an optical drive built in anymore. I'm sure you will have a good time gaming on your new computer and learning about ways to tweak and improve it over time. I like the perspective from inside Japan!

[@NeilNTR]

The reason a lot of people are suggesting to change the case is because it is quite rare to see a PC case in the West that accommodates an "optical drive" and at least seven 3.5 HD bays. I understand that a lot of people in Japan still prefer a PC with an Optical drive. There are not a lot of options in the West if you still want to keep the Optical Drive. As far a Airflow, I think the Fans under the case are sufficient if they are blowing inwards towards the RTX3080 and the case feet are high enough to get air in the bottom. Personally , I do like that case you have. I'm one of the people who still have optical disks and several mechanical HDs for long term storage. Also, I love the semi retro (not quite beige case retro lol) appeal of it. I think the modern cases of meshes, tempered glass and RGB fans look good (I have one) but they are just too mainstream for me now. I wish they sell that type of cases in my area.

[@NihongoGamer]

Haha as long as I can find ways to help it stay cool yeah I’m kinda into the retro ness of it

[@victor00123q]

Congratulations for the new PC!!

[@SylphidUndine]

Nothing I can say that hasn’t already been mentioned in the comments, but great video! I look forward to the future content you share with it.

[@2EOGIY]

3:51 for that purpose is a well-established computer coffee tray, I believe that is called optical drive and is usually placed on the front. Who would put a coffee mug in any other place?

[@mr6291]

I think things look great but I definitely recommend adding more fans (side intake fans prob using double-sided tape, front fans). UNDERVOLT the 3080. You can get the same FPS with lower temps and sometimes this will let it boost higher than stock. Performance can even feel smoother.

[@dangermoose7584]

Congrats on that PC man! I've built my own desktop, work in the IT industry, multiple certs. blah blah blah. All these people saying upgrade this and that are giving good advice but honestly what you've got is great as it is. The best advice that I can give you as a user is that desktops circulate air from bottom to top (so cold air in and hot air out) and they make a great vacuum cleaner. The higher you can get the pc off the floor the less you'll have to clean it. All the upgrades that have been suggested can wait until you have an issue(s).

[@LFC608]

The 3080 creates alot of heat. Ideally you want a case with good airflow and that case is more of the old style where airflow was not prioritized.

[@drftr6073]

for the caliber of processing units it packs, it really should've come with a more premium case and a better cooling configuration. the rgb is the first thing that sticks out about them, but good cases are also more spacious on the inside, and easier to work on. not to mention the superior airflow and flexibility.

[@TheLegendaryCaboose]

To be honest you probably don't need to upgrade anything. The PC probably won't reach dangerous temps. If u want your PC to be quieter then you would upgrade the case and use 2 case fans (1 intake + 1 exhaust). Why upgrading isn't necessary: * PSU is solid. It's gold rated so it's probably better than most PSUs that PC brand uses. I would only worry if the PC brand has been using a lot faulty PSUs. * CPU Heatsink: If the CPU is not overclocked the stock Intel heatsink will handle the CPU just fine. * Case: only needs an upgrade if CPU or GPU temps reach 90°C-100°C. At that point the GPU or CPU will lower it's performance to avoid dangerous temperatures for the part. A case with better airflow will help with temperatures and noise.

[@HexerPsy]

Reasons why you are wrong: PSU is 80+ gold but has no brand name I could see. Gold is a minimum spec these days, its not a sign of quality since you can do much better with a reasonable budget, and its here where sellers cut corners (PSU, case, storage are usually cheap and poor quality, since its not explicit on most product pages, and bought in bulk). A bad PSU could be a small risk to your components, and possibly with the 3080, not handle spike loads well and cut the power to prevent damage. Better build PSUs can handle the spikey RTX 3000 better. CPU and GPU have boost algorithms taking their temperature into account. As their temps rise, they reduce clocks way below the 90s. But the difference is small. Most importantly - the GPU and stock CPU fans are LOUD when starved for cool air. As a streamer sitting next to his pc, he can reduce background noise and hiss from these fans, if he migrates his components to a better case.

[@XFirebatX]

@@HexerPsy you are the incorrect one here sir.

[@TheLegendaryCaboose]

@@HexerPsy @HexerPsy With upgrades this PC can be better. I'm just saying they are not necessary. * The PC Brand put in the PSU, and companies have to put in quality parts for their warranty. If the brand wanted to really cheap out they could have gone with a silver, bronze, or no certification PSU. * CPU and GPU will reach rated clock speeds. With heat it will not reach the best boost speeds possible. * You assume his PC will be LOUD. It might be. It won't be quiet on load. I did mention the case will help with temps and noise.

[@KaoruSugimura]

Upgrades you should absolutely consider: - New power supply - Often one of the areas prebuilts cheap out on and that one is... not the best. - New heatsink for the cpu - another area they cheap out on in most prebuilt pcs. That is going to have an especially hard time cooling as your GPU pulls air towards the PCB which is pushed out around it (where you see the fins). This in turn has it circulate in your case where your cpu heatsink will pull it as well. - Storage is yet another area often cut back on for savings/profit. I didn't hear what your storage was in the video but if it's an HDD my first upgrade would be to add an M.2. Many prebuilts still push HDDs as their systems only storage device so I wouldn't be surprised. This is important not just for boot times but as we are moving towards direct storage M.2 ssds are becoming increasingly more necessary. Your GPUs VRAM stores most everything after loading an area but some open world games make new draw calls for texture assets while playing. This can result in lower frame rates or even stuttering. A great example of this can be seen in PoE as they continued to add new assets/textures over the years which increased the draw calls to the storage drive. Of course loading screens are entirely bottlenecked by your storage device so there's that too. Other areas often cheaped out on but not necessary upgrades: - Ram is another area they often cheap out on. Typically opting for the slowest CL timings. In game it isn't a huge deal but you could see an average of 3-5 fps more depending on the game. - The case is another obvious area they save on. No front intake reduces it's cooling capabilities and it's why PC cases with glass front panels are looked down on. They look nice but they are not a great design choice. - The motherboard though in this case it isn't that bad. Not an overclocking monster board but it's also not a cheap no name brand motherboard that the majority of prebuilts often use.

[@KalinkaChan]

i think he should prioritize to change his case more than changing the storage 🤣 that case is gonna be an oven in hot japan summer. or at least add some intake fans. but where would he attach them to? 😂

[@AmartharDrakestone]

He did mention there's 2 1TB drives, and as you can't see any in the drive bays, you could assume that both are m.2 Though that case has got to go. I had one like that in the past (not the same brand, but similar type - completely closed with just some perforation on the side), and even with less powerful hardware it got to the point where I had to keep the side panel off just so it wouldn't shut down from overheating... And my country doesn't get as hot as Japan does.

[@heefmvc]

Looks like a good PC! I agree that more fans are required though, 3080s run real hot and that case doesn’t have a ton of ventilation.

[@t7justkc64]

Oh boy. I think you should change the case ASAP. There's no ventilation in your case. It will be super duper hot.

[@anata.one.1967]

I built my when Anna Williams was announced for Tekken 7, it has Ryzen R5 1600 and 1050Ti and 16 GB RAM (single channel- I ordered 2 x 8 GB RAM on amazon but received 1x16 GB).

[@dreadafk]

I would insist you get a different case, Corsair 4000D would be a great choice, a new power supply, EVGA SuperNOVA 1000GT, and a new CPU cooler, Noctua NH-D15. You will need all the cooling and power supply headroom that you can get. That PC, in its current state, will not have ample cooling or reliable performance with that power supply.

[@mysketchbook3402]

I hadn't watched the whole video before my last comment. If the power supply is 80+ gold it should be fine. Just need a case and an AIO radiator cooler for that i7. Also quality fans like Noctua fans for intake and exhaust. Also there is a channel called Tech Yes City and Aussie that lives in Japan. He is a pc builder and flipper. Give him a look and see if he can help you with your pc goals

[@phlmarinho]

Congrats on the new PC! I also find it very convenient to have a desktop and a laptop.

[@DaRealMikeyBruh.5o17]

You can use the laptop to stream from pc actually, I've heard/seen gaming channels use a 2nd pc to stream while another pc does the gameplay. Hope this helps 🧡🙏🏾

[@bigdubyuh7901]

hot air blowing around is still better than no air blowing around the pci slot should be fine, and if you dont block off the holes on the side panel the case should be fine. Unlike everyone else telling you to get a different case I would spend money on a better air cooler and worse case scenario keep the side panel off.

[@toplel2912]

My man. Get in touch with Tech Yes City's one and only Brian, he could teach you all there is about putting together a good computer and do it with excellent price performance. The case and the cooler looks like total fukin garbanzo, that cooler is barely enough just for even the i3. Brian could also teach you to build smaller computers. That case will suffocate the 3080 btw so you better get learning fast if you want to use it for a long time

[@willo198]

agree

[@jamessilverio2657]

Stock cooler on I7 12th gen gonna goo brrrrrrr. Also another tip is when making a pc future proof isn't just in performance but also in temps in the pc itself also the power supply looks generic which might expload.

[@Lu1giopl]

If you dont want a new case and the hassel of moving everything over I would find a way to install a 80mm intake fan on the side where there are those holes. Swap out that cpu cooler and aslong as your psu is 80+ bronze or better and enough WATS I wouldnt worry about it.

[@MykeondaMic]

like others said, swap cases, even to a full tower. get a lower mounted power supply, 2 fan liquid cooler, get a case without all the useless drive bays that become dust collectors. and i would even get one without the opticle drive as well

[@undine623]

I think it looks fine. Only thing I would do is make sure that everything is properly plugged in. Sometimes the people that build these pcs don't do it properly. And also, I would 100% replace the PSU, the ones they tend to use are cheaper and not very reliable. If anything, do that.

[@darylquevada]

I'm running RTX 3070 TI and I can tell you right now the amount of heat your GPU will dump in your CPU will be so high that your CPU fan will run max out all day with that kind of case air flow.

[@luckylucson]

Everyone's said it already but do get a new case. People have mentioned performance (new case w/ better airflow, etc) but if anything get a new case so it'll look nicer and you'll be happy everytime you see it! Regardless it's still probably a good computer :) No where to go but up!

[@franklinnash]

The rubber on the top is so if you have USB HD/SSD it won't slip off if the PC gets kicked.

[@ffxiikd1426]

all you need is new case and fans some storage and new cooler for the cpu check the psu if need to change it or stick with it for now and change it later.

[@Middcore]

They apparently ordered way too many of this case in like 2006 and are still trying to use them up.

[@jawman0]

My personal opinion on what to upgrade in order: 1) PSU: If the PSU is generic and it dies, it might take all the other components with it. Buy a 1k watt silver/gold tier PSU it doesn't need to be modular it just need to work and not kill the other components it if dies. This is mandatory. 2) RAM: The ram i saw on the video doesn't seem to have any built in heatsinks, ddr4 rams with high frequency tend to emit high heat it might roast itself to death. if you plan to buy a new case with front fans then disregard this. 3) Case: This is optional, if your room always has the AC open just leave the side panel open it should be enough to cool the case. Otherwise buy a cheapo case that can support top and front mounted fans(You will have to buy the fans separately most of the time for cheap cases, NEVER BUY GLASS PANEL CASES!! This is optional. 4) CPU FAN: Buy a cheap 240mm AIO attach it on top of the new case from 3(make sure the case is a full ATX otherwise mounting an AIO on the top would be almost impossible because of the motherboard). This is optional. Edit: 5) Buy 2pc additional Ram with the same specs/brand as the one included, if you plan to stream and play on the rig it needs to have as much ram as possible. Might want to buy it from the shop that sold the pc to make sure it works.

[@JPWestmas]

Sorry the pricing over there is rough. Graphics cards aside, here in the US you can easily save 30-40% building your own with top notch parts.

[@TheBenjiYT]

Here in the US it’s actually cheaper to build your own PC, nice video btw

[@kbhasi]

(4:48) Wrong! The fans take the air from inside the case, blows that over the heatsink, and then out the back. (5:43) Some takeaways from my custom PC build: 1. I always start with the case first as that's the part that would be seen the most. 2a. I then pick the CPU, find what chipsets it's compatible with, and pick a mainboard that has it and the features I want. 2b. If buying used, buy a mainboard and CPU bundle that may or may not include CPU cooling and/or RAM. 3. From there, I go on to RAM, then GPU and PSU, storage, and other components. In my case, I went with older PC hardware from 2017 during the GPU shortage in early 2021, as I had already spent part of my budget on a new NAS after my old one basically failed and couldn't access the front hard drives.

[@NihongoGamer]

Good to know thanks!

[@2JZDestroyer]

he base build s fine, the case is limited. I'd upgrade to somethin from corsair or god forbid even rosewill. you could even do a deep dive into a water cooled build if your so inclined.

[@anata.one.1967]

Speaking of M1, I played Skull Girls for first time yesterday, because it seems like the only fighting game available on M1 Macs. My M1 Chip just consumed about 7.2 W while playing that game. I want Tekken 7 to come to M1 Macs that is built in Universal binaries and targets Metal device. That will be fantastic.

[@NihongoGamer]

M1 power consumption is very impressive

[@anata.one.1967]

@@NihongoGamer x86 power bills costs an ARM and a leg. Kappa

[@anata.one.1967]

Also, would like your perspective, on what you think about the M1, and M2 processors.

[@Arashi1138]

Just ordered a PC upgrade yesterday. Similar specs to yours; tho I'll echo the other comments here. You're going to want to swap out the case and get a better CPU cooler. Currently in a very hot climate, an older PC of mine had the intel stock cooler on it, but it wasn't enough for summer when its typically 30+C here. I went with a Corsair 4000D case and Noctua NH-D15 cooler; may keep it in that case, or swap around with my current full tower case - we'll see next week when it arrives :D

[@NagaTen]

Man, Mouse Computer had amazing TV ads a few years ago.... lol That said, I think the fans on that RTX suck upwards, rather than blowing downwards. About pre-builts... man, i'm not sure they ARE cheaper. They may SEEM like it, but you're getting a very cheap case, a cheap motherboard.... they're probably cutting corners on a bunch of components because they know most people won't be as well versed about them as much as the processor and graphics card, like slower RAM...

[@Eminence_in_shadow]

I hope you upgraded the cooler > aio >new case voila monster pc

[@Catssonova]

I like Minimal cases but that case doesn't look like it has good ventilation. At least its not plastic

[@antftwx]

I'd replace the case, CPU cooler, and PSU as soon as possible. The cooler will be loud af, and the PSU is almost certainly straight out of the bargain bin. The case is a definite heat trap. Something from Fractal Design, Phanteks would be much better. They usually come with full mesh front panels and just enough fans to get by. As far as the GPU fans go, they almost always push air through the heatsink, so the flow is going bottom-up. That being said, because of their orientation, that heat is just moving around inside the case without adequate exhaust (or without enough cool intake blowing the air out of any and all holes the case might have.) Personally, I've made the switch to cases with closed font panels and internal PSU mounts, which allow for the entire PC to benefit from bottom-up airflow aided by naturally rising hot air. In your case, with an ATX mobo, I'd suggest switching to a Fractal Design Torrent case. Comes with two massive 180mm fans out of the box and supports additional fan mounting at the bottom, directly below the GPU.

[@heroicsquirrel3195]

Definitely upgrade the fans and after a while redo the gpu paste with thermal grizzly and spread the paste to cover the whole chip unlike the cpu chip in which you can just put a large pea sized blob, this small change will make your gpu run cooler

[@KitV91]

I miss having a dedicated dvd drive

[@absolutesadlad2297]

absolutely need new PSU + and new CPU Cooler asap. that 3080 is gonna cook in that case. so a half way decent case with mesh front + decent fans will definitely benefit you as well.

[@jayireland561]

That PC needs more fans for sure! That graphics card is bound to get hot and thermal throttle choking off would-be performance. Just one exhaust fan is for a 3080 system is baaaad. If you can, add intake fans at the bottom to pull air up into the case and add exhaust fans to the side panel. Better still, do a case swap and get a better PSU and CPU cooler but I have a feeling you don't wanna get that involved. And FYI the graphics card fans don't blow down, they pull air up and out the side of the card. At the end of the day you still have a nice PC though, cheers.

[@MrFido7up]

Monitor your temperatures Your case most likely lack airflow and need to change it So use hwmonitir and see if anything is throttling

[@ciclismo1450]

The DVD driver got me lmao

[@nikolai1566]

first thing you need to do is adding lots of fans! that PC is gonna toast to death if you leave it like that, definitely needs a better CPU cooler and a better PSU.

[@Zarraicka]

yeah prebuilds can be cheaper but it comes at a cost... literally :D they skimp out on some of the parts like psu, sometimes mobo, ram etc etc which is the reason they don't list them that often on the shop listing. If you would buy a prebuild and upgrade it to something with a reasonable brand and reliability it would be more expensive sure but it could be more future proof and it would definitely be more reliable. Personally i would still go custom build and if i didn't know how to build pcs i would still pay someone to build a custom pc for me.

[@aweigh1010]

looks fine to me.

[@PyromancerRift]

Once you try wireless VR, you absolutely canot go back.

[@nonholographic]

I believe displayport monitors can be daisy chained with one another which might save some clutter

[@nonholographic]

also those drive cages in front are probably worth unscrewing since impeding a lot of airflow if you want a quick and easy improvement

[@maziio646]

That 3080 is gonna get preeeeetty hot with that case, if you can, change it ...asap

[@xFrozenxSnowx]

2022 and prebuilt using cases that is not spray painted inside. Dell/HP gaming PC vibes

[@tehpanda64]

You totally need a new cpu cooler. The intel12th gen parts are very power hungry, it might not turbo boost as high as expected.

[@subarashi-sama6309]

this case is very bad if you want your expensives compenents to live longer change it for a better case with good air flow . the power supply look not safe too

[@MangoTangoFox]

The case, cooler, and power supply are genuinely abysmal. Literally TODAY by coincidence, I got a case and DVD writer drive just like that brand new in my complex's dumpster, it's literally THAT unwanted and worthless, and where cases even in the 50-60 USD range and especially around 90, are insanely wonderful now compared to what that got you a decade ago (incredible space and layout support, slide-out/magnetic dust filters, included RGB fans, usb-c front panel, etc). The main components here are just fine and are the bulk of the cost (with the case + power supply + fans being "worth" about 50 USD total). You could MASSIVELY upgrade this with not much money at all. - A full black 750-850w modular 80+Gold power supply ~75-90 USD - Something like a Corsair 4000D Airflow for ~90-100 USD, and many many great similar and/or cheaper options - Liquid AIO CPU cooler or a higher end air cooler in sales for ~45-75 USD - Pack of 5 ARGB super budget fans for ~25 USD (they may get noisy eventually), or higher end ARGB ones like ARCTIC P12/P14 for ~50 USD for 3 (the quietest and best performing ARGB fans for the money by far). - ALTERNATIVELY - A cheaper case like the Montech X3 Mesh, which INCLUDES SIX RGB FANS for a total under 70-80 USD, is an insane value option, despite not the best overall material feel. Though I personally feel going higher end on the case is more worthwhile as it's a part that with proper sizing and quality can last through multiple builds saving you in the future. All in all a $300-350 upgrade that I think for someone like you is super worthwhile given your job AND just for balance reasons given the high end i7 and 3080, as the other bits you got are more suited to the thermal capacity of far far lower-end hardware.

[@NihongoGamer]

Great parts list thanks! I probably will upgrade it soon :)

[@MangoTangoFox]

​@@NihongoGamer I'd be more than happy to help you look through the parts shops you have access to or answer questions if you need help when the time comes. I saw some of your vids years ago when I was researching 3DS stuff, and stumbled across this one trying to find out about the state of PC gaming in Japan after the news of the Steam deck launching there. Cheers! 😁

[@xxnike0629xx]

I’d say get a bigger case and replace the PSU with something more reliable and less likely to fail. My current desktop is a Dell XPS from like 7 or so years ago running on a 6th Core i5 and a GTX 720 Ti. So spec wise this desktop is way better. But again I think the PSU and the case should be replaced. It looks very cramped for being a fan cooled desktop. But for the time being you should be fine for a while.

[@bruceg22000]

I'm amazed pc gaming even exists in Japan since it's conventional wisdom that they primarily use Japanese videogame consoles.

[@bobmcbob4399]

Exactly, don't they shun regular PCs because they don't have a lot of space at home?

[@rakuzalupus9011]

First thing that I though was oh boy that case has no fans in the front or even at the top it's gonna be toasty inside given its an RTX card.

[@HexerPsy]

The PSU will also help with the exhaust of air... its not ideal, but he essentially has 2 exhaust fans, but no filtered intake. Thats gonna be a lot of dust...

[@johnmichaelbangayan242]

SANA ALL 🥺

[@OceanTechh]

In general terms, it is not a bad PC, but I would change the case and the power supply in the future. another thing you can do is if you don't plan to add more storage you can take out the bays and make 2 holes for fans in the front

[@pacsonic9000]

Better than the Verge's PC build.

[@NinjaChris77]

Oh yea, you wanna replace that little CPU fan asap! If thats infact a new 12 gen i7, that little thing wont do it justice at all, its probably gonna hold it back from its full potential (even without overclocking!), maybe even overheat. And yes, the 3080 is gonna blow hot air, .... if you play a game with higher demand or VR actually alot of hot air and here the same, if that thing isnt getting proper airflow, its not gonna unfold its full potential, so yea, test it out, but i have a feeling that case might not be the best for a graphics card like this! Same with the PSU, might wanna replace that one if you plug alot of stuff into your PC, but i see other comments have already said similar things, so im gonna stop here, haha. Other than that, you gonna have a blast with it, 3080 is a BEAST!!

[@roninstormYT]

it looks good but please change that psu aka the power suppile it looks 3rd partry go for a evga one or top 3 brands for psu . everything else is ok i am interested in pc gaming more i build two off my pc one for streaming the streaming one is when my nephew comes over i move the pc back too my set up when he not hear my main rig is a ryzen 5 3600 32 gb ram gtx 1080ti i could not get a rtx card cause there so hard too get saving up for a amd gpu or a rtx 3060 . so i cannot wait i owned a gtx 1050 2gb for a long time and then upgrade too a 1060 6gb my final upgrade for now is a 1080ti from my friend . so cause off him i was able too save up wait till black friday this year too get a 3060

[@wiggyg7337]

A dvd drive? never heard of them

[@arfianwismiga5912]

are you born at 2010?

[@wiggyg7337]

@@arfianwismiga5912 I was being sarcastic

[@RR-hh1bp]

Premium components in a Ford Pinto. Transplant to a new PC case ASAP

[@dienand_]

Nice! I’m a little concerned about the cooling in this case though…

[@dienand_]

GPU fans pull the air in over the heatsink and out the sides, unless it’s a blower style design which pulls the hot air out the back of the case.

[@dienand_]

I’m excited to see what you’ll be able to do with the extra horse power

[@NeinBreaker]

I’d personally recommend getting a 500gb PCIE / M2 SSD and use that for your operating system and programs. It plugs straight into the motherboard, which makes the startup faster. Plus, it saves space and reduces the load on your regular hard drives. Also, don’t forget to disable sticky keys and stop Disc Defragmenter from automatically defragging your SSDs to ensure that they live longer.

[@KalinkaChan]

the PC was built really well for what its worth, but I think there are 3 main things that you might want to change in the future: 1. the case: the current case has questionable air flow, it has a very 90's design with negative air flow (more air coming out than coming in) which might make your pc suffocate on itself because no fresh air was coming in. there doesn't seems to be space to add additional intake fans either. the caveat: modern cases doesn't support dvd drives anymore, so you might need to yeet that dvd drive when you do upgrade the case. 2. processor cooler: the default intel cooler is barely adequate to handle an i7 on its own, which is the reason why they don't include them with i7 processors anymore these days (idk why the system integrator chose to use the default cooler, probably to cut costs). 3. power supply: power supplies are the heart of your system and is not the place to skimp on. you might need a 750w power supply with 80+ gold certification to make sure components inside gets adequate power, especially the graphics card since the rtx 3000 series is notorious for having transient load spike (drawing more power than it actually need).

[@S_Hyde]

the only japanese computer brand I "know" is mouse because of those ever infamous(?) dancing mouse girls ads,

[@NihongoGamer]

That tune was so catchy I’m still singing it in my head to this day

[@kottonstream9119]

You should really learn how to build a pc - it’s super easy like legos . Literally- and then to learn about your operating system and what you need and don’t is basically priceless .

[@anata.one.1967]

Do NOT, ever overclock that PC in that case. Cause all the heat from the PSU, GPU, CPU will be concentrated around the CPU/RAM area. You will thermal throttle immediately if it's a 12900k/ 12900KS.

[@JPWestmas]

Yes best to buy now if you have a 5+ year old computer.

[@smol_Tsukiko]

the case has unfortunetaly very poor airflow. I'd try to get at least a new case with more room for the poor gpu to breath.

[@Norbiej]

nice purchase! i personally prefer a big aftermarket cooler on my cpu cause they cool better but otherwise it looks great. Also now you can fully enjoy pc gamepass (once you get used to the horrible xbox app on windows 10/11 lol )

[@itsamnesia1235]

Love ya man but don't lemme find out where u live😂

[@lemonke5341]

Tf i have the same exact case

[@solidsnakeeey3776]

Sugoooi desu ne?!?

[@vdfritzz]

this case is soooooo old, mid 2000s case with 2022 hardware i really mean it, VERY old case, holes near the cpu in the side panel, zero cable management capability, power supply on the top, no air oppenings on top either no air filtering, it'll get very dusty very fast that power supply seems tiny, the 3080 is very power hungry, it has some spikes in power consuption, you need AT LEAST a high grade 800w power supply that gpu and cpu are going to get TOASTY can you send it back and ask for a modern case? or maybe send it to another company to get it changed ASAP to something new and better (check linus tech tips for bang for the buck cases) 6:06 it pulls fresh air IN and the hot air leaves through those shiny aluminum strips there are no fans in the front of the case blowing fresh air in, so the gpu will recycle old hot air and get really toasty

[@syyanon1738]

That power supply bothers me.... hmmmmmm

[@arfianwismiga5912]

why not build pc? is pc part more expensive than pre built?

[@NihongoGamer]

It’s a bit more expensive but mostly I wanted to get an idea of what kind of build you get when u buy a modern prebuilt in Japan.

[@IkuMiku96]

im a pc guy and love to build my own. it is still surprising to know that pre-build pc in japan store, spec to spec, would be cheaper than per parts. but as non-pc person, is easier to send the entire pc than per parts if you might need a warranty or repair. while the case is old school layout, somehow i miss the old school style and able to mount a disc drive (would love to get blu-ray drive). but have to say, the case would be a limiting factor for an i7-12700 and rtx 3080, do really hope the fan on the back (and in the power supply) able to exhaust all the heat. at least old school style case have ventilation holes at side which helps a lot in my experience. if necessary in future, i suggest mount an intake pc fan at the side. (if the case has bottom ventilation, it is a good case already with fans) pc spec wise, its a great choice for content creation and such, usually would able to handle heavy games while streaming/recording. on pcie slots, you could use the shorter pcie on lower ones for like usb extension, capture card. hope you able to create even more content with the new pc~!

[@TheEverglader]

Ichiban

[@NihongoGamer]

omedetou gozaimasu

[@PyromancerRift]

@@NihongoGamer Yamete nihongo sempai !

[@SoldierBoy3064]

I gave i7 12700k and 3080ti but it just sits there cuz series x is so much simpler

[@firstdecade7703]

Not judging but that case are cringe ( both in looks and feature department ).

[@kingofthenerds4708]

that case is atrocious. change that smotherbox asap. i'm a custom pc builder and wouldn't ever use a case like that except for office pc or a pc using an integrated gpu. you're gonna get no airflow.

[@carcino_Geneticist]

The cable management could be better, put a riser stand since the pc stand is bit short, so the exhaust could breath underneath, you can also reverse the fans below to make it intake, anything else its good

[@Eternal-pj8zh]

So that's why PC gaming isn't a thing in Japan.

[@HexerPsy]

PC building and tinkering as a hobby since 2014 :D 2:48 Yes, your GPU supports 4 monitors, all hooked up to that display. You can add an aditional monitors to your i7 CPU and connected to your motherboard, for a total of 6 (if you turn on the feature in bios, if its not already on). 4:59 No! The fans pull air from the bottom of your case and push it through the metal fins. That means, some air gets pushed against the motherboard, circulating in the bottom of the case. Most of the air will be pushed against your PC case side panel. On this side, the hot air will then rise and heat up the air that the CPU uses to cool - finally the hot ear exits through the back fan... Your PSU will also suck out some hot air, use it to cool itself and push out the hotter air through the back. The setup is too hot for these components, especially your GPU. If you get a case with holes in the bottom and add 2 fans sucking air in through a filter, you can run the GPU cooler and quieter. The CPU will also benefit from the hotter air. 6:25 Preferably you wouldnt use the long PCIe slot underneath the GPU, since it reduces freely available air for the GPU. If you wish to expand USB slots, you can buy a x1 PCIE usb expansion slot for the bottom short pcie slot. These slots will run fast enough for gen 3.0 if you are not a heavy user. 6:39 The reason this is so cheap, is because you cheaped out on the motherboard (B660 isnt terrible, its okay), the stock CPU cooler, a bad case with single fan, and the no brand PSU. Ideally you would want a better case with a mesh filter hole in the bottom or mesh in the front with 2 fans. (from eu prices to yen, 10k yen, give or take) Your brand PSU (corsair or whatever) 800-850W sucking its own air through a mesh filter in the bottom. (22k yen) And perhaps a simple but effective tower cooler on your CPU. (5K yen) 8:15 Given your laptop has seen a good amount of use, you may look into opening it up to clean it out, if you can find a guide on how to open it up and its not too complicated. Keep track of screws! Dust in fans (careful not to put too much force while cleaning) can be a thing. Also replacing the thermal paste under the coolers with something new and higher performance from a brand name (doesnt have to be premium, you can buy a small syringe cheaply). Your laptop can go from loud to quiet and also cool your hardware a lot better. Most laptops fail over time due to overheating (or liquid spills...) 8:30 Cant fault your hardware choise. No problems for the next 5 years for your type of games. As for streaming and the multiple cameras... I think you have a i7-12700K? You should be fine to play and stream on the same box. The 3080 can basically record gameplay at near 0 loss of performance. Encoding on the CPU is usually the hardest task, but the 12700 should be capable. If you already have the laptop and hardware required to run it as a streaming box, thats awesome - given you dont run into stability issues. Your hardware can also edit and export fine, given you use hardware encoding on the 3080, but if you are already familiar with the editing workflow on the mac, there s no real reason to switch.

[@kirbo-db6mw]

dude your pc is gonna light it self on fire I REAPEAT DO NOT USE THE INTEL CPU STOCK COOLER AND CHANGE OUT YOUR PSU

[@tricksalot2]

you bought a prebuilt?

[@NihongoGamer]

I bought a pre built

[@tricksalot2]

@@NihongoGamer might as well built one yourself

[@sekai1809]

the cases of all prebuilt pcs sold on japan look so ugly including big brand GALLERIA

[@NihongoGamer]

It’s true. I dunno why pre-builts with fancy cases are less common

[@tristov6649]

You have such a cute little face. (nohomo)

[@jessejones1783]

I don't own a Desktop tower pc I own a crap laptop that can't handle any games that can't run on my laptop