I BOUGHT an ELECTRIC CAR and Here's Why YOU SHOULD NOT BUY ONE! EV Electric Vehicle Truths & LIES

I BOUGHT an ELECTRIC CAR and Here's Why YOU SHOULD NOT BUY ONE! EV Truths & LIES. Are the government and motor dealers and manufacturers lying to us? Are we being pushed into Electric Cars when the Battery Technology and infrastructure are not ready? If you re thinking of buying an Electric Vehicle, then watch this.
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[@ManCave1972]

The length of time to charge these cars is the number one problem. Having to spend half an hour to an hour on a forecourt just isn’t going to work. We can all see the EV enthusiasts telling us all to change the settings, plan this, schedule that, but that’s not how normal people use their cars. Can you imagine an elderly lady driver doing any of that? Some of them struggle filling up with petrol. It’s too slow, too risky (charge points seem to be constantly broken or occupied) and too stressful.

[@patdbean]

The for court concept is old thinking, other than maybe on motorways. Cars spend about 90% of their lives parked, so just charge when you are parked anyway. The average car dose 25 miles a day. That is about 60 to 80 minutes charge a day on the new 5kw lamppost chargers being installed in London. At the rate of about 25 a week. So basically one overnight charge will take any current EV from 20% to 80% charge, or about 250 Miles in 8 to 10 hours. you don't have to sit and watch it charge just get on with working/sleeping while it charges. See kzbin.info/www/bejne/qHzEdpt4n9lkotU

[@sahhull]

Im a mobile detailer. My current van is a 20 year old 450,000mile Vauxhall combo diesel. Even loaded I get 50mpg, 600+ miles per 5 min fill up. I paid £1500 for it, 13 years ago! I hired a Nissan EV van for a month. I gave the thing back after 2 weeks because I was having to cancel appointments and loosing money. I cannot charge at home even if I bought one. So I'd be reliant on public charging. The EV van allegedly had a 200 mile range. On a typical day. I drive 150miles per day. Except. Once I'd loaded the van for work inc the water tank. I was getting 50 miles from a charge. I had to charge the thing 3 times per day! Thats around 4 hours wasted per day!. My good day went like this: Take missus to work. She comes home on the bus. Charge the van... Yawn. Do 1st job... Charge the van. Do 2nd job Charge the van so its ready for taking the missus to work. What usually happened was: Take missus to work. She comes home on the bus. Charge the van... Yawn. Do 1st job... Drive to the charge point, wait in a 3 deep que and eventually charge the van. Cancel 2nd job because of the charging issue. Charge the van so its ready for taking the missus to work. If we did any socialising, shopping etc... I'd need to visit the charger again before turning in for the night or we wouldnt have enough juice to take the missus to work in the morning. Charging the van isnt just the time charging the thing. Theres the time to drive to the charge point (not many around here). Waiting for a charger to be available if someone is already there. I have been 5 deep in a que. I really despair for the future. They are not good enough. The range is too short and the charge time too long. public charging facilities are sketchy at best. I live in a city of 320,000 people. My nearest public charge point is 8 miles away, there is just 2 points. The next charge points are across the city some 15 miles away. I hate card payments. I have lost so many credit cards... I leave it at home, Im not good with cards.. I can buy diesel with cash... I like cash, I know where I am with cash. The local bus company has some electric buses... They are always freezing cold and the drivers are not allowed to turn on the heaters on because it kills the range, the buses are constantly getting delayed or cancelled because of them needing charging.

[@paulking5521]

Well said if you remember they lied to us about the good old diesel fuel and you wait and see what happens when these ev owners have to start paying for the roads they use per mile the government has to get all that lost money from somewhere any case I love my diesel and don't want a milk float vehicle otherwise I would have been a milkman!

[@firefighter387]

Hi I live in a street with 200 terraced houses, none of which have off road parking so each house would have to trail a cable across the pavement into their vehicle that's as long as you can park near your house which in my case is not very often so I could never buy one. I would say that a least 80 to 85% of households in the uk have the same problem.

[@ZipZoomZip]

Too bad for those poor sots. I guess they are stuck tied to gasoline!

[@georgemartin9618]

Nio have solved this problem.

[@patdbean]

@@georgemartin9618 street lamp chargers , hundreds in London already. This video is s from 4 years ago. kzbin.info/www/bejne/qHzEdpt4n9lkotU

[@donovanf1]

I will keep running my Mercedes diesel for as long as I can buy diesel fuel. There is nothing about the cost and the range of an EV that makes me want to buy one, and the length of time to recharge one just cannot compete with pulling onto a diesel pump and filling up in minutes.

[@bobmac004]

Do you have a diesel pump at home, and how much is a full tank of diesel these days

[@malukohenrique]

@donovanf1 @donovanf1 audi rs e tron takes 20 minutes to fill up 100%. And if the battery has been around 80%, it spend less than 10min. We will be forced to use electric cars, and I think that will be 100 times better.

[@whynotstartusingyourbrain8726]

That's what assholes do.

[@bumfluffmcregor3730]

@@bobmac004 he doesn't need one at home because it doesn't take all night to fill it up like an electric

[@tonyfisk8081]

I would have an EV in a heartbeat, based upon my needs and circumstances. I have a private drive, am fitting a 6.75KW solar PV system, do mainly short journeys with an occasional trip over 100 miles for visits to family or holiday. If only the manufacturers had actually made a car that suited my use. After more than a decade of EV building, there is not a single large estate EV. SUVs are not the answer to everyone's needs - if I want to move my mower, I don't want to have to lift it to waist height, or use a ladder to put fence panels on roof rails. Also, as I never buy new cars, they would need to have been making them five years ago for me to afford one now. We also have two other cars in the household - a small roadster and a four-seat convertible - and there are no viable EV replacements for those either. The people stopping me from buying an EV are the people making EVs.

[@tajjywajjyonionbhajji6198]

The reason I bought a hybrid is I wasnt confident at having an all electric car because of the charging. However I am really happy at seeing the sign on the motorway for Huddersfield. I had to rewind it twice.

[@richardhowlett9424]

The worst thing about electric cars are the sanctimonious, politically correct, holier than thou , people that drive most of them .

[@robinoconnor1203]

I met a group of EV drivers late in 2021, one told me Elon Musk was the saviour of the planet and that Covid should have killed off everyone over 60 years of age, despite this chap being 66!. They could not accept a low wage earning family, did not have £8-10000 to spend on a used EV, I said there is a lot of people that struggle to buy an old £1000 runabout, one response, they should not have cars then! complete bunch of nutters.

[@elmo319]

A tad prejudice… perhaps your just jealous 😂

[@richardhowlett9424]

@@elmo319 🤣🤣

[@shanepreater1834]

I have a Tesla model 3 and regularly travel several hundred miles to visit customers. I have never had a problem charging it. Also it does take a slight change of mindset because you don’t go places to charge the car. You charge it while you do other things. After a few hours I’m ready to stop for a break so I pick a location with a super charger. This means my coffee and rest break is ample to recharge the car ready to travel the next few hours. Also taking a little time to pick hotels with ev chargers so it’s then charged over night. It might be because the Tesla infrastructure is so much better than any other model but hasn’t been an issue for me so far. My usual range is about 290 miles when I charge it for a trip. My usual daily commute (well pre covid as I work from home more now) is 140 miles round trip and during the summer when the m5 is a car park it can take me 3 plus hours to get home so having adequate range was a priority for me when choosing a car.

[@gbphil]

But if you park in a charging bay for as long as you are busy, no one else can use the charger after your car is full?

[@patdbean]

@@gbphil just use a street lamp charger about 25 a week being installed in London kzbin.info/www/bejne/qHzEdpt4n9lkotU

[@davidwatkins594]

Auto Express tested an electric car and compared it with its petrol and diesel equivalents. They compared all of the expenses and showed the cost of fuel/charge per 10,000 miles. Two charging costs for the electric car were shown as 17p/KW for home only charging and 48p/KW for public only charging. The insurance cost for the electric car was much higher than the ICE cars, so if you only compared the total cost of Fuel/Charge, insurance and road tax, the electric car actually costs more to run. Even using just home charging, was the EV just very slightly cheaper to run. So if you consider that the EV will cost £10,000 more to purchase and after 10 years, it may need a new £6,000 battery, the EV is NOT an economical proposition. Then consider the stress of range anxiety and trying to find a public charger that is available when you need to charge it and its a big NO NO for an EV. Guy Martin (the Speed King) tested the Hyundai Ionic 5 over a long distance and advised that an EV should only be considered, if you can charge at home and only drive locally. He said that a third of the public chargers were out of action and some charged as much as 70p/KW. Although he left home with a full charge, his cost at public chargers was £240, so he said that fuel for the same mileage in his diesel car would only have cost £204, proving that an EV can be more expensive to run for people who cannot charge at home.

[@patdbean]

Why were they paying 17p per kWh? when economy 7 is between 5 and 8p per kWh and on a 7kw home charger in the economy 7 hours you can charge about 200 miles a night for between 2 and 3 pounds .

[@patdbean]

@@Brian-om2hh even when your battery dose need replacing AND it is out of warenty , your old one still has a second hand value, because it will have a second Life. see kzbin.info/www/bejne/gKLPgJ-ngMSiqpo

[@Dogtagnan]

Take a typical London suburban street. Never mind the fact that almost no house has a driveway on which you can recharge your car. You are lucky if you can park your car within 100 yards of your own house when you get home. On the occasions when my neighbour does manage to bag a spot outside his house he's afraid to move the car because he knows there won't be anywhere for him to park when he gets home. Sorry but the infrastructure just isn't there and I can't begin to see how it can ever be.

[@bobmac004]

When you go shopping, you could plug in at Tesco where it's FREE

[@TheMacMaster]

You can IF you have a cable. Porsche don't supply a cable. You need your own cable. So not exactly true. Watch tomorrow's vlog I made and you'll see what a complete and utter ball ache it is to charge!! I went to 3 places 1 out of action the other in use and only allowed to park for 90 minutes. Real world it's not that easy.

[@fontyyy]

If this is true, why do 85%+ of EV owners say they'll never go back to ICE?

[@philipwood9526]

Maybe because they havn't tried to trade one in yet and their batteries not degraded.

[@johnsmall2258]

The 85% of EV owners are probably the early adopters with the income or retirement income to afford one, the nice house with space for a home charging point and a lifestyle which fits. For the vast bulk of remaining average motorists, on the average low salary... on average spend £3000 to £7000 on the purchase of vehicle. The cost and availability of similar used EVs will take some time, the new price is way to high. EVs appear cheap to run a the moment but wait until the government start to panic at the loss of fuel tax and vehicle tax... They will soon be on everyone's back taxing cars on the size of the electric motor and those who have home charging... The London congestion charge is a cash cow for the government and they won't want to see that diminish in any way. It won't be long my friend.

[@Scotto_desu]

Sorry to hear your bad experience. I’ve owned a Tesla for 5 years and never had problems with charging, thanks to the supercharger network. Supercharger stops are only 20-30 minutes. I’ve done several thousand mile road trips with no issues. I installed a 240v outlet at my house - just like a washer/dryer outlet. It charges up fully as I sleep. So convenient! Cost of electricity is less than half of gas, per mile. It’s a bit of a pain right now for apartment dwellers who have no charging outlet. But it won’t be long before EV charging hookups are everywhere - workplace, grocery store, movie theaters, street side, parking lots. You won’t care how fast your car charges if you’re off doing your business. Cost of EVs is coming down incredibly fast. They will be cheaper than gas cars in a few years. Much less maintenance and cheaper fueling. The days of the internal combustion engine are numbered ✌️

[@oscarcat80]

Very fair and interesting, I’m still not a believer in EV yet. Thank you

[@pieman192]

1st 👍👍My boss at work picked up his new Taycan after a 6 month wait . He picked it up at Porsche in Gloucester and drove it back to Manchester and had to charge twice and even said to a member of staff on way back that electric cars are not the future and that’s after a few hours of ownership……

[@Zextraterrestrial]

Don’t buy a non Tesla if you plan on traveling

[@stevegorkowski3246]

I guess it isn't for him but after six years owning an electric vehicle is still fun. EV owners forget all the ICE smells, going to the gas stations and shelling out $1000s of dollars for gas, checking and changing oil,checking the belts to name a few. EV's you charge at night and are ready to ride.

[@Isclachau]

But where will all the Middle class virtue signallers go without an EV. It’s a must have in todays age. Yah yah.

[@edwoodsnowden]

Good that you are giving an honest opinion as well and not blowing smoke up the electrical car peoples and manufacturers asses. Keeping it real thats why we are here :) #honestopinion

[@markstramtrainbuscapades1729]

A very well balanced critique, Lee. I live in a terraced house with no off road parking, so charging at home would be totally impractical. Plus the cost of one would, atm, be a beyond my budget, so I'm staying petrol for now. As for the future, if the real cost doesn't come down dramatically before petrol/diesels are banned, then I fear it's the end of the road for mass car ownership, something that today's public transport network is largely ill equipped to cope with (and I say that as a bus driver!)

[@jonesingforfood6380]

I travel long distance in my Tesla all the time and it’s a dream! Their charging infrastructure is extensive and plus version 3 chargers are super fast. Plus the autopilot is awesome. I literally only stop for about 15-20 min every couple of hours. Which is fine cause I got to go to the restroom and get some coffee or something to eat. Try doing a long road trip with a Tesla. You will notice a big difference. (Sorry wrote this before finishing the video. Glad you mentioned how much better it is if there is a more extensive charging network like Tesla has.) Also Redwood materials is working on recycling the batteries. I also think solar will be a lot more extensive to solve the energy problem you mention. Really enjoy your food reviews btw.

[@TheMacMaster]

I'd love to test drive A Tesla. 😊👍🏼👍🏼

[@jonesingforfood6380]

@@TheMacMaster come visit Canada. You can drive mine 🙂. Plus we got some pretty awesome food.

[@Royboy50]

@@jonesingforfood6380 there is a massive logistical difference between Canada and the U.K. ,you should visit the U.K. and drive on our totally congested road network there’s no joy there mate I can tell you ,I was travelling on the M1 acoupleof days ago and that road between j29 and j27 totally gridlocked all day for one accident ,I wouldn’t want to bein that in an ev

[@DontBeNaiveGuys]

It’s basic common sense. You should not buy an EV if you don’t want a home charging unit. Therefore you should never leave home with anything less than a full charge. Also you shouldn’t buy an EV if you spend most of your day driving. It’ll be a few more years before the infrastructure is in place in the UK.

[@bobmac004]

When you go shopping, you could plug in at Tesco where it's FREE

[@DontBeNaiveGuys]

@@bobmac004 if you’ve got plenty of time to wait. Or you spend 45 mins to an hour shopping.

[@tonymoreton7166]

V8 petrol all the way.

[@WilliamHollinger2019]

Same here in USA good old 1967 shelby v8

[@tonythompson4951]

Great point about charging up on the motorway, it would be absolute chaos with everybody trying to get charged.

[@Dunco3550]

Too much hassle and worry for an EV. When they stop making new cars the demand for second hand cars will turn astronomical. And then the cost for second hand cars will soar sky high to dampen down demand.

[@MrArtist7777]

I bought an EV about 6-years ago and love it!! I would NEVER consider buying an ICE car again, especially now with gas prices skyrocketing and fuel shorted on the horizon. EV's are as much the future as smart cell phones and tablet computers.

[@danielkenny847]

Watch the charging price go up when it all goes electric will be the same price as petrol an diesel

[@thewagster59]

Have I got this right.... £33 for 65%? That's about £50 for 200 miles. Even at today's ridiculous fuel prices, I get that out of a Merc X Class diesel commercial pickup! They've got a long way to go yet. Great video 👍👍🍻

[@matthewcattermole5718]

I've paid about £15 for 10k miles at the moment for my EV ;)

[@bathman6366]

I put £70 of petrol in my wife's Peugeot today which took 3 minutes and will give her a range of 500 miles. Until chargers are fast enough to give a similar experience, I think fully electric will remain a niche market.

[@jimf4748]

Great, but what about the damage to the environment and the damage to children's lungs with pollution. Walk along any high street and you can smell the emissions from vehicles.

[@bathman6366]

We need to move to cleaner options but clearly waiting 2 hours for a vehicle to charge isn't going to be adopted en masse. I'll buy an electric car tomorrow if i can charge it for 200 miles in 3 minutes.

[@edwinchester487]

I don't think the UK is anywhere ready to go full electric car. That's why I bought a hybrid. Nice on electric, but no range worries. Nice

[@kevinhoughton9134]

I'm 100% with you on the electric thing Lee, I spent over 20 years in the motor trade and the hybrid isn't the way to go either. They are way from green and they are no more economical than a full petrol engine. I don't know what the answer is my friend!

[@ewol3511]

Tesla Model 3 long range indicates 340 miles range using a 75KWH battery. My usage over 6 months is between 3.5 - 4.5 miles per KWH so a realistic range of between 260 - 340 miles. Its the only car suitable for road trips at present because of the infrastructure.

[@intergrale4x4]

Tesla Rocks up to charger with 6 cars infront of him 9 hours Birmingham to Edinburgh :) Flight time 55mins :)

[@intergrale4x4]

@@Brian-om2hh Should the Tesla car not of told him that then ??

[@ShoreTars]

I'm glad that there's so much misinformation about EVs being spread and absorbed - it means mass adoption will take longer and therefore no queuing for me on the rare occasion I need to charge somewhere other than home, incentives like zero tax, almost zero BIK, no congestion charge etc will all be around for a good bit longer.

[@TheMacMaster]

Lol. 😂 you'd better watch my next EV car vlog you may be in a queue. 😂

[@ShoreTars]

@@TheMacMaster EV's are clearly not suited to everyone - yet. However, for anyone with the ability to charge at home (I know this isn't everyone) and who rarely drive more than around 250 miles in a day (most people) then an EV could work perfectly. If you can't charge at home that's a big issue with the current infrastructure, it will improve over time of course. For anyone who does need to occasionally drive more than 250 miles a day then the Tesla is the viable option. If someone needs to drive more than 250 miles almost every day then EVs (as they are now) would become a frustration of course. I recently did a 1300 mile round trip, including sub zero temps and snow with no issues at all - and yes, the heating was on, as was the heated seat, the AC, the music etc. No issues at all.

[@TheMacMaster]

I went back to a Boxster. Filmed a vlog and was totally disappointed at the delay when I put my foot down. I do love the way it's instant torque. Have to agree when I'm at my office I have a charger and it's so much easier and although my car was expensive, running it is very cheap at the moment. 👍🏼👍🏼

[@ShoreTars]

@@TheMacMaster I still have my 997.2 in the garage, hardly ever used since getting the Tesla, it is lovely but feels like an antique now and the performance is no longer special. I’ll move it on soon I expect. We also still have a diesel Jag estate (my wife’s car) - just because we’ve had it from new, nothing wrong with it, still very nice to be in and so it’s not worth changing - yet, but I expect it’ll be replaced with another EV in a year or 2.

[@davetalton6939]

I have to agree, I genuinely do not have an issue, yes mine is a Tesla so do have the supercharger network but the costs to run are next to nothing.

[@rogerthornhill2435]

Thank you Lee for your honesty. Importantly what is the warranty on the battery, and how much does it cost to replace the battery should it fail

[@kamcarcrusher857]

2 friends went on a journey from London to Italy on a challenge to see who gets there first. Tesla and Mercedes 2.1 diesel, Mercedes guy rings the Tesla to see whereabouts he was, Tesla says he just got to Paris and asked where the Mercedes one was, he replied I'm sunbathing in Rome...

[@jw934]

I just finished a cross continent trip in my Tesla M3 SR+ from Toronto to Vancouver down to New Mexico and Texas and back to Toronto. 14,200 km total and zero issue with charging. The car tells me when and where to charge. Only minor complaint are two places where the car said the chargers are on the right side of the road but I can see them on the left side. My SR+ gets 402km, but I get perhaps 360 km when I drive continuously on the highway. (Not sure)

[@narinderchander]

Electric cars are great if the range on one charge (at home) is enough for the round trip and they're great around the city. But for long distances you can't beat a hybrid car (at the moment). If they manage to make batteries that charge in 10 minutes then they'll be good for long distance travel as well.

[@johnmasters504]

I actually saw a cable running across a block of flats right out to a car parked on the road, last week, but who ever done it had caused a tripping hazard across 2 footpaths.....

[@johnmasters504]

@Advanced Driving next time I see it I will take some photos of it, must have been in Peterborough somewhere

[@TennisWithDennis]

The new London hybrid Taxi (the TXe) has a range of 49 miles! Its ridiculous. Most cabbies run it on petrol to keep warm! The world has gone nuts. My old metrocab had an LPG engine and it was amazing. Until it exploded and blew the bloody bonnet off! 💥 Great video btw mate

[@sylviamcguinness7490]

Oh the constant worry of having enough charge must really ruin your journey. The car looks beautiful though

[@gbphil]

It creates a good argument for the re-introduction of Little Chefs, every parking space equipped with a charge point, hot reasonable quality food over 30-45 minutes, pay the charge bill with the food bill on the way out, two or three big charging stations covering 70-100 parking spaces.

[@gray133]

Little thieves they were known as in my house!

[@georgemartin9618]

With the introduction of autonomous driving we'll all be able to have a few pints whilst waiting for the car to charge then kip down in the back .

[@stevenryder8803]

My dad got a lift home on Saturday in an electronic car. Not sure what make it but I'm sure he said it only goes 90 miles on a full charge she told him.

[@robertradford6351]

I agree 100% with you ,no infrastructure and mainly using fossel fuels to run them!! E bikes on the other hand are fab!!

[@wemakecookie]

That charging can get annoying. EVs are convenient and cheap if you can charge at home. With how quickly these EVs are improving, range, charging, I expect lots to be buying.

[@ellisjames8517]

Only electric car to buy is a Tesla to be fair. Great range and can even go fast in them

[@frankdefeyter4893]

Replacing 1 classic petrol pump requires at least 20 x150 Kwh chargers if you want the same Km/hr pumping/charging. This creates a space problem at the stations and will create unsupportable electricity peaks.

[@ZipZoomZip]

My wife and I have travelled a lot in our two Model 3's. Just fantastic, I would never tour with gasoline again! It's so much better to plug and go. I gave up on third party chargers due to slow speeds and reliability issues, only use Superchargers and free destination chargers at my hotel now.

[@Ritchiemac]

EV Cars are still very expensive to buy compared to petrol one's,plus all the hassle of charging them. Puts me off, great video Lee.

[@WildBoreWoodWind]

Lee, I live near Greenbushes, Western Australia, we're one of the biggest, if not the biggest Lithium mines IN THE WOORRLLD. The workers that I know, are average ages, you wouldn't look out of place. So Australian Lithium, isn't mined by underaged workers.

[@georgemartin9618]

Rumour has it they're going to put No Vax Jockavich to work there .

[@fastpart1]

Hi someone did a study of ev charging a typical motorway service station would need approx 50 fast chargers which would need as much electric as a small town to keep up with demand

[@mkijn999]

Probably a lie from fossil fuel PR. Travelling long distances in a Tesla is easy. Stop infrequently, every few hours, splash & dash/toilet/coffee 15-20 minutes (plug in in seconds, leave car while stretch legs etc). Rest of time, car always full (home charger), defrosted when needed. Absolute joy to drive

[@AGlugofOilJanBennett]

Yep you’re right, I don’t think we have everything in place for everyone to go all electric 😬

[@fs357mag]

I have enough stress in my life (like watching KZbin videos of a guy in England eating hamburgers with a KNIFE AND FORK) without having to deal with range anxiety. Pretty car, though.

[@TheMacMaster]

Lol. 😂 👍🏼

[@stevegibson1230]

If someone gave me one , i would sell it , then buy a decent car , only Hybrid is a possibility. I hope my nice 2 litre diesel lasts me forever.

[@cnocspeireag]

Some people must have been conned into buying an electric car by Ionity, who suddenly quintupled the price of a charge at the start of 2020. Can you imagine a petrol station suddenly quintupling its prices? Could you imagine being able to fill up only if you were driving the right make of car, or having to have different charge cards for every oil company? Regularly pulling in to find pumps out of order and you being expected to phone the manufacturer and report it before anything is done. We need more of your sort of reporting. So many other reviewers are enthusiastic sheep, unwilling to call out execrable service. The British government were incompetent at the start in their efforts to encourage electric take up, unless you were based in London, or with a relatively short commute there. The money given in discounts to buy should have been used to finance generally available infrastructure. I'm no great fan, but Elon Musk did the right and honest thing, investing in first -class infrastructure along with selling cars.

[@leer798]

I tend to agree with you somewhat Lee . As I’ve mentioned a few times we have the etron and based on the current situation they’re hard work for long journeys . But , saying they’re not for the future based on today’s situation is a bit misleading. Battery tech will inevitably get better meaning longer ranges and charging will get quicker imo . I don’t believe we will totally rely on electric vehicles though . I’m sure they’ll develop something else for cars like they are for JCBs etc - hydrogen .

[@vandervecken2577]

Agree, there is always a place for new technology but at the moment this is not the way forward.

[@brooke6848]

First of all did watch the video when it was released but haven’t had time to do my reply. Nice to see someone of very similar opinions and views regarding electric vehicles. My opinion unless they can making charging a electric car as quick as putting fuel in or having easy changeable battery that you could nip to a electric station and switch for a charge one electric vehicles I don’t it see working. Think hybrid is much more of a realistic option round town or stuck in traffic use electric motor then on country roads, dual carriageway and motorways use fuel. Problems with electric vehicles charging times, not currently enough charging points, unlike fuel the process isn’t finish within minutes so services, supermarket car parks, shopping centre would require so many charging points if most vehicles were electric which is a costing issue for them to be installed if more charging stations aren’t added be queues waiting to charge or a carpark full cars that can’t be moved because they are out of charge also electric car parking spaces require additional space than regular spaces due to charger sticking out which will reduce car parking spaces massively. Most households have more than one vehicle with probably one car on drive and one on road what happens if both need charging you can’t have charging cables running along footpaths because it’s dangerous, what about flats or terrace houses where you are very lucky to get parked outside your own house so be charging cables that are metres long to reach, crossing over each other I live in a terraced house and on the next street one house have a Renault Zoe and have a noticed outside asking people not to park outside there house so they can charge there car. Doesn’t seem very practical or cost effective in my view. That was highlighted in your videos on the Scotland trip for you travelling around doing your videos which is your job for longer distances electric vehicle isn’t ideal planning your route, charging cost were ridiculous could use traditional fuel and get more mileage if it did become cheaper still time added to journey then any saved money will be spent on food or drinks stopping all the time. It’s a well known fact our lives are busier than ever, need ways to save time and money this is adding time we don’t have. My belief is we have one life and I don’t want to spend half my life waiting for my car to charge. How eco friendly is it to manufacture batteries for electric vehicle and how eco friendly is it to recycle the batteries one they have reached out of there life. What about manufacturing process/ materials use to make vehicle not as environmentally friendly as you probably think. Batteries don’t last as long in colder situations so colder countries will have reduced range, meaning more charge, higher cost, likely need batteries replacing sooner same with hotter countries that would have AC on which drains battery the above issues apply.

[@sarakirk9542]

Hey Lee! I just couldn’t handle the hassle you get with an electric car. The expense of getting a charger at home, finding charging points, worrying about the charge and what is being used on the car which takes up the battery etc. if I had to switch I’d rather have a hybrid for that extra reassurance just in case for long trips away. I went to Costco this morning to fill up my 1.6 diesel PUG. Cost me £52. It wasn’t empty just under half full. That’s the only thing about having a diesel. The expense to fill up these days. But I find it’s worth it. My car had dome 310 miles since I last filled it up the week before Christmas. I can’t get over the range my diesel can do. The hassle is not there for when I go away next weekend on any travels I make

[@peterkirton4580]

The government has made no secret of the fact that they want less people driving, what better way than to bring in a system that has awful infrastructure and very expensive cars that Mr.Average cannot afford. Job done

[@davidclark3603]

Electric cars are a huge con trick. Dont do it guys. You've been warned. Maybe in the future they will get it right, but it isn't now. There is very little difference in cost between a good economical traditional and electric one. I have found out the hard way. It takes ages to charge, and if you're in a hurry, it's hard luck. Theres loads of good things about them, but, at the moment, hmmm? I have found out the hard way!

[@cw082401]

Don't worry! I will never buy one of those toy cars 🚗!!!!! Batteries are for Radios and cellular phones!!!! Not cars!!!!

[@billywiz1307]

Infrastructure is pants, you’re right but that’s down to government policy. eg. Government gave a motorway charging monopoly to Ecotricity and all EV owners will know why that’s bad. Mind you, I don’t want more ev's on the road, my ev costs me about 1.3p/mile in electricity (I have a home charger on a 5p/kWh tariff), my road tax is zero and driving on one pedal is so good. You petrol heads stay as you are, continue to pay the taxes required by HMG and I’ll keep going until the government start taxing ev's.

[@lexosney685]

The future is hydrogen cars but as usual we are being let through the next planned rollout before that reality.

[@Eliddinn]

I would like an electric car, i don't do loads of miles so i'd be able to charge at home most of the time but the cars are just way too expensive, I think the cheapest tesla was about 50k which is crazy, I'll have to stick with my 7k corsa at for now.

[@bobmac004]

If you have a Corsa, why would you want a Tesla?

[@hongk0ngfu3y]

i wouldnt dream of buying an ev with a sub 250 miles range on a full charge. Its like when the manufacturers say xyz cars does x miles to the gallon and you never get anywhere near that.

[@steveclarke3499]

Porshce Taycan for your first E.V. ?, they build great I.C.E. cars. 180 miles max range ? I've got an electric bike that can do that. Should have got a Tesla ya wee numpty.

[@edglue6138]

They know how to run a car with no emissions, and way cheaper. We all know why they dont

[@nelsonoliveira1007]

I understand if the infrastructure isn't available not to buy an EV. I bought the 2022 Kona EV in October and 100% happy with the change over. I charge at home once or twice a week at a cost of $23 per month. I live in Toronto and travel 25 km to work daily. In Ontario the have Superchargers all over from Niagara Falls, St Catherines, Hamilton, Toronto and all the way north 1000 kms to Thunder Bay and all the way to Montreal. It cost $18 per hour to charge if I want to take a long drive. It works for me.

[@peterball8241]

EV for me, I have an MG5 which has similar range to the Taycan. Home charging is a game changer, costs me 2.50 to fill up. I also have an Outlander PHEV which I use for short local trips, not as much fun to drive as the MG.

[@rudders23]

Was the AA recovery truck in the background of the charging station dropping a car for a charge 🤔

[@chrisabbott683]

The non-Tesla charging network is very poor. And you’ve picked an EV with a really poor range for its battery size. If you want an EV right now get a Tesla. We do regular long trips and it’s absolutely fine. We drive 3 to 4 hours then stop for about 25 minutes. London to Liverpool for example needs a shorter stop than that. Oh, and a large proportion of UK energy comes from renewables, almost zero from coal. And I don’t think lithium is mined by children, think that’s a misunderstanding. The charging network will improve over the next few years - people say moronic things like if everyone switched to EV now there would t be enough chargers. No shit Sherlock! But the power and reliability of chargers does need fixing. The number is increasing in line with EV sales.

[@davidlewis4399]

4 hours driving in a Tesla really do you go 55 Mph in the summer or something with no passengers or what. When Tesla open up the charging network to everyone in the UK you will have bigger problems. Personally I cant afford a Tesla even the cheapo ones so bit of a non starter for me and 90+% of the driving population , bit like me telling you to buy a plane as they are faster than cars.

[@pauldhartley]

I don't think renewables is the same as non-poluting. Isn't most of the renewables wood buring power stations, the wood being shipped from abroad?

[@markmurphy7698]

Lee. I’m in HK and Teslas are very popular. This is because Hong Kong is a very small place so nobody is driving very far.

[@stevebeever2442]

I think plug in hybrid is the best option. They do around 30 miles on pure electric which is enough to get most people to their place of work and back. Then when you go on days out do your 30 miles then it goes to your normal combustion engine. Best of both worlds

[@brianherring6393]

Phasing out diesel and petrol cars for electric vehicles is like putting all your eggs in one basket 2-weeks ago we had no electricity for 4 days no charging at home. If you had three or four business meetiings in the day you wouldn't want to spend half the day at a charging point

[@johncouriermeh]

Not a good thing if you don't have a driveway or live in a tower block.

[@RichardGSweet]

Interesting and valid take on the subject. I think plug-in EVs have there place, particularly if you live and drive mostly in a big city. Not the magic bullet they’re claimed to be though.

[@guz5135]

One valid point you seem to have overlooked. If you are in a motorway service station charging up your car if you are in the motorway service station longer than 2 hours you will receive a £25 fee so if there is a queue at the charging points that is something you should be aware of

[@patdbean]

@Advanced Driving a motorway service charger should be 150kw+ in other words should charge at about 500 miles an hour, so you should be able to put 250 miles back in within 30 minutes , 250 miles is over 3 hours of driving. You should be taking a 30 minute break after that amount of time behind the wheel anyway.

[@brentpresley]

You asked what range Tesla's get, I and other owners could answer this, but I think the best idea would be for you to rent or borrow one. If you want Taycan-level then you are looking at something like a Model S performance (Plaid not available in UK last time I checked). If you want something more pedestrian, look at a long-range Model 3 or Model Y to borrow/rent. Would love to see your experience there, especially with the charging network, which is pretty well-developed in the UK.

[@TheMacMaster]

I'd love to test drive A Tesla. Gonna look into it. 👍🏼

[@tonyhodgkinson4586]

Imagine filling your car but only putting in a litre each time on a 200 mile journey, you wouldn't do it, so why would anyone with a brain buy a ev?. If you only travel short distances from home, then ok, but they're no good for a work vehicle.

[@bobmac004]

Don't buy one then.

[@joselynalicemay6225]

So if i run out of gas/diesel i can call a tow and they come with gas/diesel if the battery shits the bed who do i call?

[@robbieelkins2301]

According to some people you will have solar panels on your car. But then again those things don't really solve the problem.

[@DigiDriftZone]

A bankruptcy lawyer?

[@millenialmusings8451]

I always love to check out contrarian opinions to the mainstream. Thanks for doing this video. I will be on the market to replace my Camry. Like you said I don’t think we have EV infrastructure quite there yet. I think maybe 5-10 years down the line it would be easier to own an EV if we have things like battery swapping stations etc. So yeah, i will buy a gasoline car or an hybrid to use as daily driver for next 5 years.

[@Oxygene1841]

Only 16% is due to transport wheras 48% is due to factories emmiting their waste into the air so electric vehicles are a waste,and what happens if you're dring in the dark in a cold environment and you need your headlights and heating on?

[@michael6401]

I couldn’t have an EV because I live in a first floor flat so where am I supposed to plug it in ! It all seams like a terrible faff on and long drives will take 3 or 4 times longer ! Everyone spending an hour in a service station to charge the car is simply not feasible

[@ZipZoomZip]

I generally only charge 15 minutes per rest stop.

[@ghl3488]

And wait until you have to replace the battery pack after a few years at around 7 - 8 grand. Will anyone ever buy a second hand EV? If anyone is thinking of buying one, have a look at lithium mining and how it affects the environment

[@ShoreTars]

People have been buying second hand EVs for many years already, you do realise that already don't you? The tech is evolving rapidly, battery life is way more than 'a few years', new materials are being used (some even mined in Cornwall would you believe?). If we all had your bleak outlook we'd still be using horses and carts to get around.

[@harryrambler]

I struggle with my Robin Relient. It's great for short journeys but uncomfortable and I feel unsafe on the motorway. The rest of my family use the bus due to lack of room. I can only shop for a few bits & bobs. Etc.etc. I'm thinking of getting an EV and I have my eye on a second hand milk float or a mobility scooter.

[@JH-lm2hx]

I think you're fibbing. Any true Reliant Robin owner knows which way round the words go. And can spell Reliant.

[@harryrambler]

@@JH-lm2hx Or possibly I'm messaging on a small smartphone without my reading glasses. I hope I spell Inspector Clueless correctly! 😂

[@Royboy50]

3 wheels barred from motorway

[@harryrambler]

@@Royboy50 Last of the Summer Whine?😂

[@Royboy50]

@@harryrambler think you’ve had a bit too much of it

[@joeedwards9721]

Another problem I'd face is I don't drink coffee, with an EV you have to stop every hour for an hour and as well as paying to charge you have to wander around the services trying to get warm on your 3rd £5 cup of coffee of the day. What bollox

[@petermilburn5425]

My company gave me a Prius. I get 44MPG. Put about 5 gallons (US) Works great!!!

[@jimcousins2872]

Every possible misconception about ev's Renewable energy The Grid etc Please do some research mate

[@TheMacMaster]

Done my research. I guarantee you the future is not electric. All about Money. 👍🏼

[@alhill975]

hydrogen and alcohol based fuels could win the battle, depends on a lot of factors and I think they are doing an impressive job with marketing EV but as it stands has some major floors

[@patdbean]

You need 2 or 3 times the electricity to make the hydrogen. Then if you just used it to charge a battery directly

[@peterrussell9231]

Ordinary people can’t afford electric cars ?

[@philipwood9526]

They dont want "ordinary people" using the roads unless its in a bus.

[@brentpresley]

Done multiple 6000+ mile trips in 3 different Teslas. Sorry man, you just picked the wrong EV for road-tripping. The charging network is just as important as the EV, and Tesla's charging network is top-notch. Don't blame all EV's for the Porsche's lack of a good charging network.

[@alphamailplus]

If you don't have off road parking, as many don't, where you gonna plug it in ?

[@sagalout]

At a service station with EV chargers I’d guess 🤷🏻‍♂️. Or whilst you do your supermarket shop maybe.

[@bobmac004]

At Tesco when you go shopping, and it's free

[@steveratcliffe2181]

I would be a nervous wreck when the battery was getting low. No thanks. Great vid Lee.

[@DavidJohnston58]

Watched Stavros few months back on an RoI channel testing an Opel Mokka ev after testing his own Honda e over 1000 miles, compared to 1000 miles in his old Fiat Punto and Punto won the day incl purchase costs, journey costs and time taken. Even on BBC news the people putting the infrastructure together reckoned they needed to up their installation process tenfold to get anywhere near what's needed. Stavros has since got rid of his EV.

[@TrevM0nkey]

I'm struggling to see the benefit. You get under 250 miles and it costs you 35 quid for about a 70% fill up? And electric cars have a massive premium on top when you're buying them. If you're only doing local running around and can charge from home, why do you need an expensive car... And if you're going on a long road trip, it's still not cheap and takes longer with charging times. The girlfriend gets her Peugeot 2008 electric car delivered tomorrow, she does around 12k a year but that's local (kids to school etc) and hers is on salary sacrifice... So not too bad. I do 6 mile round trips to the gym, occasional 90 mile round trip to the office and nipping to the shops. For her, might be cost effective. For me, I'm doing that little my oil burning X5 doesn't cost that much in fuel. But electric is no way the way forward for everybody whilst they're so expensive

[@thelifeofbatteries2603]

my 300 miles charged at home costs £4

[@TrevM0nkey]

@@thelifeofbatteries2603 but you're not always going to be at home to charge it... If you're on a run, it's not cheap and if you only drive locally, the car isn't cheap

[@philiphigginbotham3775]

It's all a bit academic because you won't be allowed a car of any sort. Only party bosses and shady characters will be allowed private vehicles

[@cyclometre]

Well, you already have those at number 10 already!

[@teej710]

Other reasons not to buy an EV include. They cost at least 50% more than their ICE equivalent. The batteries will have to be potentially replaced within 10 years, which will destroy any residual value. When any new battery technology comes along, then nobody will want to buy the older EV cars, which will kill the residual value. Servicing of electric vehicles can only be done by specialists, who are few and far between. If you run out of charge, you can't get a can of fuel out of the boot. My Kia cost £11k, is zero road tax, does a genuine 64 mpg combined (i log mileage and fuel used) and has a range of 560+ miles per tank. EV, no thanks.

[@MrTytalus]

Some partially wrong and some partially right points there. - I looked at ICE equivalents for EVs, and found that many were getting, or were at, the same sale point, with some about 10% more. Mid last year, the TDI Golf spec was about the same as the ID.3 EV spec, and they were within £200 new (before any grants). The same with other similar models. And with Petrol/Diesel going nowhere in price, but EVs continuing to get cheaper... - The batteries in my Prius were supposed to die in 4 years... 14 years later, it was sold and still passed the battery tests. EVs are proving to have similar ranges, with the odd exception (such as the very early Leafs). And again, they are getting better and managed better. - If a new amazing battery technology comes along then maybe residual will kill older EVs, like Diesel is dead today. - For servicing there are 2 main points: There are the main stealers and HEVRA EV certified independents everywhere I've been asked to look, but not everywhere. And what servicing... ;) - Your Kia was 2nd hand? My 2015 Leaf was £9k (from a Nissan Stealer), is zero tax and costs 1.4p/mile to run in the winter and 0p/mile to run in the summer. That will change with p/mile taxes that are likely to land to replace fuel and road duties, but while the sun shines :) But in the meantime, the main point made in this video is that, EVs are not yet for everyone due to the infrastructure needing to get up to speed with this change. It will, it did with Petrol and Diesel.

[@mjc220683]

Interesting take. I am on the verge of getting a EV company car. 3 others here have one and nothing negative to report as yet. But good to hear the devils advocate on these things. I agree if everyone suddenly had a EV in the country in one go, it’s a problem. But it’s growing as a network all the time. For me, as it’s a lease car, I’ll give it a go. See how it goes for me. I guess only way to know is to try. I am a control freak too. Every long journey I take, I plan stops and places etc so think I’ll be okay.

[@havaska]

You’ve bought the wrong car. We’ve got an ID.3 (which is excellent) and a diesel A6. Any long journey use the A6. Everything else use the ID.3 which we charge overnight on Octopus go at 5p per kWh which is around a tenth of what the rapid chargers cost. We’re saving a fortune!

[@ShaneM345]

As you say Teslas charging network is excellent. I've never had any problems or range anxiety when I've done longer journeys in mine.

[@clobber66]

Don’t buy electric cars yet infrastructures isn’t in place and it won’t be for many many years to come.