I bought TaylorMade’s new M4 driver (is it actually the same)

[@chriscerta9821]

Hey Rick, I have an idea for a video that I would like to see!! Can you show the difference between using a new driver head with an older model shaft, and a new premium shaft on a driver from maybe a decade ago? I think that would show how much a shaft or head effect performance

[@adriancox-thesantjordigolf3646]

Against the M1, please.

[@huikh2r]

Rick doesn't believe shaft makes much difference. However, I believe shaft is more important than head

[@medfloat5001]

That is a great idea

[@chriscerta9821]

@@huikh2r one reason I mentioned it.. is I was able to purchase an atmos shaft seen here on the m4 driver. But I have it currently on the M6 head. Wanted to see his insight on maybe an old RBZ head with a new shaft or vise versa

[@nicholaslandis596]

I would also like to see this

[@richardhugginsrealestateph7132]

The M4 has been in my bag since 2018 and I just haven't found anything better (for me). Some drivers hit further but the M4 keeps me in the fairway more than any driver I've ever owned. Along with the sound. When it’s hit clean there’s not many things I’d rather hear in life. Anyone that buys one should love it. Im tempted to get a refreshed one for backup. Hmmmm

[@DiscGoStu]

I’ve had one for 2 years now and I love it! I used to primarily play disc golf and when disc golfers find a mold they like they always buy multiple backups…I think it might be appropriate here as well

[@SJ-je8gw]

Had my M3 now for a couple of years . Recently got given a Sim 2 and after 30 mins on the range with it I hated it . Sold it next day and M3 remains . Feels so solid with mis hits

[@scottisaacs2941]

Buy a second hand 2018 one, it’ll cost even less than the new one and is serious value for money!

[@GolfQuestChannel]

Well with this new release I'm tempted. I'm still rocking a Callaway Diablo driver from 2010 lol. Maybe time for an upgrade.

[@hammockmonk]

The M4 is on my short list, along with Cobra RadSpeed XD and Calloway Mavrik. Thanks for your feedback.

[@wizzite]

I was gonna suggest doing a video of the M4's vs the Stealth and you already did it at the end of the vid. Nice one!

[@itsfreddie010]

your fortnite vids used to bang back in the day you playing golf now?

[@mikethewhizz5085]

I actually really like this practice in golf manufacture; it makes modern, Top quality golf equipment much more accessible to the masses, and helps introduce newer golfers to the big names in golf!

[@joshayers8879]

Rick, I've got an M4 from 2018 and I still haven't found anything to replace it with... agree 100% on the feel and sound of the M4... also, the first time I saw the M4 I thought "that looks like the BMW logo"... great video, keep up the good work!!!👍

[@o_Juffo_o]

The Sim is better bro, just get the right shaft.

[@paulsantoro7710]

I like the fact that the m4 colours are different. It helps for someone purchasing the club to know that it is a 2022 version.

[@MrAhuraMazda]

Kudos to TaylorMade for keeping a great thing going. I wish more brands would do this. Sometimes you just nail it.

[@stephanjepards8148]

... they ‘nailed’ it with the original M1/M2. All their drivers since then perform the same with a different paint job... which is totally worth >450£ to update every year 😹😹😹

[@MrAhuraMazda]

@@stephanjepards8148 that's true. They did being back the revamped M2 for a while though at a discount. Im not sure those had Twistface or the sound of the M4. Im sure an M1 re release would sell well too

[@lukecaisley8162]

so i know the videos are a little outdated - but thought i should mention - i tested a few different sets and drivers and the M4 set of irons and Driver were my best option where my game is right now. i bought both sets after testing and love both the reviews you posted. honest and not bias - thanks again

[@thomashacker9029]

I just got an m4 in November so I am so glad to hear it’s the same as the 2018 model. It is an awesome driver, I’d recommend it to anyone.

[@spencershelden5486]

After the cobra video and seeing this scared me, as I have the new M4 driver. Glad to see it truly is the same. Would love to see the iron set reviewed!

[@stephendibari5010]

Awesome 👏. Would like for you to put the 2016 M2 up against the M4. My 2016 M2 hasn’t left my bag since last May. Now with a Small Batch Evenflow Riptide CB 6.0 shaft. Smash factor 1.49 Love the sound/feel and forgiveness

[@brockkunz]

I’m interested in seeing him do comparisons from 5 years back until now too!

[@robh316]

so glad you do stuff like this rick good on you and well done taylormade for not ripping off your customers like cobra did

[@robh316]

@@manilove2pwn well yeah and no all modern drivers are at the limits allowed by the r&a , pga the improvements are miniscule but it is new tech in the stealth so Taylormade are gonna charge more

[@sausagembape677]

About 20 quids worth of components and fuck the bollocks of R&D

[@robh316]

@@sausagembape677 I hear you bud but also do forget Taylormade pay rory , Dustin and Co a shit tone of money they recoup that from us iam afraid

[@yanksmc7]

@@manilove2pwn they need to recoup the r&d costs of a carbon face somehow lol

[@stevenhughes7880]

Agreed that there is a lot of smoke and mirrors. I’m not sure I would call it a rip off. After all you don’t have to buy the Stealth. Rick and all the other KZbin guys make sure we know how marginal tha gains are (if any).

[@martyfarrell9459]

I have the M2 driver, it's not bad. Then I bought M4 hybrid and 3 wood. MASSIVE improvement. Nice to see they've brought the driver back, I'll definately be buying one! Thanks for the review and comparisons.

[@jimmccoys5778]

Thanks Rick!! Fantastically honest as always!! I appreciate all your hard work!!

[@davemorris7044]

Great review as always Rick. I'm a Taylormade guy so I'm pleased they haven't changed anything on the new M4.

[@tylerjohnsonliveidahorealt9808]

I think this is just smart. I love the idea of spending less for a brand new older model that basically performs the same as a new model, especially for rookies. I’m never interested in paying the brand new price for a new model to gain 2 yards when my typical drives varies by 15 yards anyways. Makes me want to support Taylor made more and I’ll bet this could help them sell more clubs overall.

[@callumfriend2523]

Cracking video Rick! Looking to get a new driver myself and watching that has made me consider the cheaper option like the M4!

[@grahampatching2717]

Hi Rick I have an earlier model M4 and I'am very happy with it, I used to slice the ball pretty badly but with this club it hasn't been half as bad, I think your lessons on how not to slice a ball may have helped as well, thanks Rick.

[@ChrisAsper]

The 2018 M4 is in my bag. Thanks for testing this against the 2022 Stealth. You saved me $750 CAD this year.

[@jddunlop1179]

Fantastic deconstruction of the two M4s! So beneficial for us golf equipment neophytes! Have been playing with an M2 for some time now and still love it. Will continue to tune in for your assessments on equipment for the common man!

[@jfrankum421]

Just picked up the M4 today as my first upgrade from my ‘bargain bin’ set. Very happy with it, and this video makes me even more confident in my purchase.

[@TacticallyTasty]

Rick is an absolute class reviewer. Much respect for this

[@wheelinsc8733]

I am a beginner with less than a year under my belt and I will say. I have tried several drivers and I ended up putting one of the 21 M4's in my bag just for the forgiveness it gives.. GREAT club..

[@Peccs91]

I play an M4 D-Type and love it. It def isn't the longest but I hit alot of fairways with it and am very consistent off the tee with it. Was the best choice i've made in a long time for a club

[@RunDGC]

Taylormade: Thanks for showing everyone we built an honest, true to form, new edition of the M4 Rick! Rick: *Breaks out the Stealth* Taylormade: *Dies*

[@TruaxOutdoors]

This comment wins the internet today lol

[@ballforegolf]

This is why you have 2 million subscribers. You are direct, honest and have a way of delivering this information without offending.

[@msi1985]

You're review lured me in for the driver... Golftown reeled me in with the 25% Taylormade fire sale... now I have the M4 4/5/6/7/8/9 iron PW / SW / 3-4 hybrids 3/5 fairway woods and the driver. Well played... well played...

[@alexanderholbrook7757]

You may think TaylorMade have shot themselves in the foot but I think you have also helped with this (which is a good thing) because it makes golf more financially accessible for those starting out and not getting sucked into the expensive drivers! I do wonder if the new M4 will trickle down to Australia.

[@ronchappell216]

Thanks for this great video. I'm trying to get back into golf and purchased M4 irons a couple of months ago. Enjoying them, and noticed an M4 driver on the rack the other day. I love my old Taylormade Superfast from ages ago, but after watching this decided to order the M4 driver. Looking forward to seeing how it does! Thanks again - enjoy your videos.

[@DavidTheNica]

Just bought my first new driver last month after your review of the 2018 M4. Didn't realize until this video that I actually have the 2021 M4. Thanks for doing this, keep it up Rick!

[@jeankoch2647]

Hey Rick, thanks for the review. I upgraded from the old driver tech to some new driver tech and bought the new M4 2021 this month. So glad to hear that I did not buy a Fake. Only had one round of golf with it so far and then had to go into hospital for operations. But that first round I was impressed with the performance. Can not wait till I'm recovered to dial in this driver. Keep up the awesome videos. All the way from South Africa.

[@speedinon]

Get well soon.

[@jeankoch2647]

@@speedinon Thank you. Much appreciated.

[@tonymc7781]

Hope you're back on the course soon buddy

[@jeankoch2647]

@@tonymc7781 Thank you buddy

[@lawrencebogar6136]

Rick, I bought the 2021 Driver, 3W, and 5W last year. I love them. Even I can't hit the Driver offline.

[@danbeaudoin9300]

Hello Rick, I just bought the M4 driver and I agree with your overall assessment of its performance hopefully it will reflect in a better overall score this coming golf season. Great channel... Dan.

[@PAWILLIA]

Bought my M4 the year it came out years ago and haven’t strayed away from it. Love it.

[@Chenz08527]

Awesome review - I used a friends M4 a few years ago for a couple of holes and really liked it. I had just bought a new driver so I didn't feel as though buying another one was a smart move. Based on your video - i have just ordered a "NEW" ('21) M4 knowing that you have done the work for us and concluded that it is performing the same! BRAVO RICK!

[@barrymuller5131]

I play the M5 driver with a supercharge after market shaft which left me with a tensei orange shaft with no head. So last fall I saw an M3 head on eBay for a low price. I bought it and took to course to test. I was playing with a friend who still played an old Cleveland XL, so I asked if he would like to try it. We both hit it longer than my M5 and his Cleveland. He wanted to buy it straightaway, so it’s now in his bag. Needless to say I bought another one this winter and can’t wait to see if I can reproduce the results. I’ll update you in a couple months.

[@MrTheStriker]

So pleased. I just got a 2nd hand original M4D for 130 pounds. And given your comments on here I think I got a bargain. Just need to learn how to hit it now :)

[@anthonyreeder8283]

This is awesome I just found an M4 and never hit one I was hitting in the hitting bay 295 carry 312 and then hit another 303 carry and 329 total. I can’t wait to get it out on the course.

[@Teacherinasubie]

5 of the last 7 victories on PGA tour are Stealth. Scottie is doing pretty awesome with it. My Stealth Plus, has me placing 1st, 3rd, and 5th in local tourneys, and won two long drives. I did get fit for this driver. But, I’m killing it.

[@garrettwilson4419]

Thank you so much for the tutorial! I loved the added content with the Stealth because that is literally the other one I was considering! I’m going M4 🔥

[@gavincharvey33]

Fantastic, honest and very relevant review rick. Fair play, keep them coming.

[@michaelplantarich3375]

Great informative video! That's a great find, because that extra 200 could go towards upgrading other clubs in the bag as well

[@timothyriach4252]

Thanks Rick, going off this video, i went and bought an M4 driver, absolutely love it !!

[@taylormilton3]

Taylormade I was M..Fing you the moment I saw Rick post thing video! Glad to see you kept it real and didn't take anything out of the M4.. props to you Taylormade GOLF!

[@adamseidel9780]

Just goes to show: if you’re picking up a new club and you’re just looking for anything pretty close to right, you’re a fool to not mostly fill up on lightly used or 2-3 year old clubs. You’ll have less fitting options and will just have to take what’s available, but you’ll get good enough. If you’re looking for something super fitted and precisely tailored for you… that’s when you go new, go to a fitter, and take advantage of every little option the new lines have.

[@huikh2r]

same thing here. Callaway Epic flash subzero is still in the bag, despite Callaway has released so many newer models in last 3 years. Epic flash is still the longest driver, and most consistent driver for me.

[@kekemewpew]

Hi! Good to see that the M4 21 driver is the same as the original M4. The M4 21 irons on the other hand are NOT the same. RibCORE, face slots and fluted hosel is not there. A comparison between the 21 irons and the original M4 would be awesome!

[@Tony_hawk]

I would love to see this video as well.

[@wokebloke7019]

Me too. I’m think of buying them. I know the face slots were a probable min the original.

[@graemewilson62]

Ended up buying this after your video. I was swaying on what new driver and this saved me a good couple hundred! Great vid Rick

[@frankcarlo7]

I actually just got the M4 delivered today in the mail! Can’t wait to use it

[@nufaninca1]

I got my Stealth a few weeks ago. It takes credit for being the first of 4 attempts to replace my R11 with the “latest tech”. After buying the R11 in 2012, I have bought (and quickly sold) the M4, M5, Sim plus and Sim2 HD. Love the feel of all of them, but the stats never beat the R11…until now. My Stealth absolutely rekindled my love for long walks up to the tee box.

[@benjackson7099]

The M4 is a beauty, would love to get one!

[@benjackson7099]

Woah ladies; calm down. There’s plenty of Ben to go around

[@wikzy.7966]

@@benjackson7099 💀

[@tennesseetrash9]

As usual a good honest review. I don't know if it was a camera angle but the white banding on the crown of the new driver looked a tad wider but I think it was optics. Again , Great review.

[@petebroady8993]

This video makes me happy. I just picked up a new 2021 M4 for $399 Aussie dollars which is about 200 quid. Looking forward to getting out on the course…

[@petebroady8993]

So revisiting this post, used the driver for the first time on Sunday. Only played 9 holes. 7 drives, 6 straight up the middle of the fairway!! My old Brosnan driver was 25years old and the head is barely half the size of the M4. Looking at tell tale marks on the face, several of my drives would have been shanks with the old Brosnan for sure. The M4 is so forgiving. One thing, I found I needed to tee up half an inch higher than I was used to so I could hit the sweet spot. The sound is something else, such a crisp “thwack” :)

[@nickjohns999]

Thanks. A useful check on what is really on the shelves, as well as how different generations compare. As you and others have said, driver technology has pretty much maxed out within the current regulations.

[@achuck4321]

Rick, they also did the same re-release with the m4 irons BUT they are different! They no longer have the flutted hosel and they do not have the face slots. I believe that they removed the face slots because TM was having trouble with crushing on the face.

[@ryansmith5391]

I've been super happy with my 2021 M4. Glad to know I didn't get shorted haha

[@jjsanchez927]

Glad there was a review on this, I've been seeing the "M4 2021" going around and was so confused lol

[@walterstimson1908]

Brilliant. You can always be relied upon to say it like it is. Thank you Rick.

[@nealfreeman01]

The fittings haven't changed over the years or get the All-Fit adapter, find your favorite shaft and stick it in this head. makes a lot of sense.

[@jvee2901]

I love my M4 fairway. I need a little thicker feel on my M6 driver. You do a great job.

[@daniellongoria9622]

I purchased a used M4 about a year ago for $190 and couldn't be happier seeing this video .

[@Michael-uo8sg]

Hi Rick, I have the older M4 and after viewing your video, I will not trade up this year. However, I am interested in a new set of irons and the M4 (2021) seem to be in the right price/value range. But, the changes are more evident on the irons compared to the driver and would love to see a review of the new irons to evaluate if they have retained the same capabilities as the older ones. Thank you for your videos, they are really helpful.

[@roberthudson3571]

Great review Rick. Food for thought!!

[@davidreehal3026]

Great review. Not everyone can afford £450-500 for a new driver.

[@RickShielsPGA]

100%

[@RyanWright11]

@@RickShielsPGA Is there a money savings by looking for a "new" 2018 M4 vs the 2021 M4?

[@Tuckercashthecorgi]

@@RickShielsPGA question for you. Regarding your last podcast. Which golf game where playing on your Oculus 2…haven’t heard yet of any good ones. Love your channel and podcast. Have you done any reviews with Taylor Made’s Sim II vs Stealth vs M4?

[@lovehowbadsmittyis2502]

Rick!!! WE THE PEOPLE NEED A FULL BOMBTECH REVIEW. Driver, woods, irons, driving irons, ALL wedges, and putters. NEED IT!

[@kimehunt4501]

Thank you for the insightful review it really does help navigate the abundant choices. You have Tegridy good sir.

[@elbowyeish]

on the top.. the space between the face and the carbon, the silver color "rim" part is wide on the 2022 where the "T" alignment is as well

[@trevortray541]

Been missing the video over last 10 days crazy that that I s a long time for this channel keep it up with the testing

[@richardlongbottom5002]

Just dropping a random comment in. Rick your channel is an awesome golf channel. Another channel out there which is fantastic especially for golf blogs is Dan Hendrickson Golf, who has not got nearly enough subscribers to reflect his fantastic content. He has just put it out there on his Sunday Morning Show that he would love to have a match with you and Guy. Not only would this be fantastic to watch but it would be great if you could give just Channel a leg up as he is a great genuine guy who really has a great passion for golf

[@mekan1kern778]

I Watch this rewiew when you first launched the video, but nos with my golf store putting it out for 230 dollars in swedish bucks i orderd one. Even with my parents saying i could go for the stealh or one of the other big money drivers as an early christmas present i didnt really feel in my gut that i would be better. Thanks for the rewiew!

[@kimmorrison9169]

and Ive noticed the same thing on new vs older woods & irons. That being there is very little difference but the price just goes up every year.

[@DBlakeD93]

Hey Rick, Taylormade has also done this with the M4 irons and hybrid. I had the 2018 M4 irons in my first set of clubs. Now, Taylormade has a 2021 version on their website with the same color scheme as the driver. It would be interesting to see what the 2021 M4 irons and hybrid compare to the 2018s. Based on the results of this video, I would think they would perform the same. Great video! Love your content!

[@jean-christopherioux3546]

I own the full set of the new version of M4 (Driver, 3 wood, 3 hybrid and 5-AW irons and I love Them !

[@thecringegolfer]

Same with the M2. A re-release. Found some new at Academy Sporting Goods...But now do side to side 2007 Burner against the M4.

[@tomsouthall3355]

I currently own the old 2018 model in the 9.5 loft and stiff shaft! Suffer from a big slice but working on that and have to agree it does sound good off the face!

[@1lifeonearth]

I have the same problem and have been suffering from the slice for 2 years !!! And I just figured out what i might be doing wrong. On take-back, my club is facing up more toward the sky. Try facing the club face more toward the ground on takeback and swing. I cant wait to go to the range and see if this fixed it.

[@mitchdamp1258]

Just got a couple of months ago brand new m4 set! With drivers, hybrids, and irons alot cheaper and perform close to the stealth

[@paulpiatek3758]

Hi Rick your clips are great. Maybe test the 2021 M4 vs the new Wilson carbon drivers 2023.

[@williammartella7616]

Thanks for this, good to know I can get a new head to back up my current. I like my M4 quite a bit.

[@bangher20]

I have the M4, rescue, 5 wood, and 3 wood. I absolutely love them all! I want to get the M4 2021. In your opinion, will the M4 driver swing like the M4 woods I have in my bag? Thanks.

[@simonsmith6356]

I had the 2018 version and loved it, but changed to a Callaway in 2019. I may look at going back, especially at that price ! Good video btw

[@rodneyshelby4371]

I have the TaylorMade M6 a great driver very similar to the M4 great sound great feel-good forgiveness good distance

[@patiogreen9738]

This, as with most new Rick Shiels reviews, further highlights the value of these “old” clubs. Grabbing a used driver from 3-4 years ago will give you even more incredible bang for your buck.

[@GolfQuestChannel]

I'm still playing a lower end driver from 2010. Getting lots of bang for my buck lol. I want something new but i'm so cheap.

[@Tony_hawk]

Do a review of the 2021 updated m4 irons please :). They removed some of the tech and are selling for $599 usd, but are they any better? Or possibly not as good…. Should be a good one 👍🏼

[@GolfQuestChannel]

Oh nice call. I would like to see that as well.

[@Kennystuth]

I’ve had my m4 since they came out and I don’t see changing anytime soon unless it breaks. Love this driver

[@callmebox2793]

Didn’t expect this content this year. Job well done!

[@colinnewman6074]

I bought the 2021 m4 a fortnight ago. It’s brilliant for a mid handicapper like me.

[@jeffkildow9917]

Your reviews are Great Rick! Thanks for the info. When shopping online for a 3 wood fairway (M4) I noticed a color difference as well and got suspicious. Your review answered all my questions regarding Blue/Red (2018) and Red/Red (M4) Fairway woods. As for the STEALTH, I do not think my DOUBLE BOGEY game will notice a difference!

[@westyJ101]

Never been so early. Amazing work Rick, Guy and team!!

[@normlang1994]

LOVE these reviews Rick! Keep up the good work!

[@fictionalgaming912]

I feel like the reason being is that they had a bunch of these M4 heads lying around that were not in a finished form before the SIM was released, so production shifted to SIM > SIM2 > Stealth. With them saying they have ongoing supply shortages for clubs or at least delays this was a good way to not only provide a top tier quality product at a lower price, but it also probably was a good PR move. Think about it folks have been complaining about the price points of new taylormade products, and this was a good way to move old unused inventory while providing affordable golfing gear to new and veterans around. I think Taylormade needs to put the brakes on releasing new drivers for a few years and just let the market enjoy their product fully instead of for 6 months where they trade in practically new clubs for the newest installment.

[@Bogeypro256]

I just picked up a like new M3 fairway wood. They really are excellent!!

[@edanzore]

Honesty. Refreshing. Thank you

[@montegustafson5142]

Can see why the markings are different, in that they help determine the model year. If I was going to buy one I would want to be sure of what I was getting.

[@Louis-df4iy]

Your videos are awesome, i played not my best golf in a tournament today at all, your videos made me feel a lot better

[@GolfQuestChannel]

I love Rick's videos too. I only wish they made me feel better after a bad round of golf. I want that magic sauce !

[@ericzellershow]

The original M4 font on the headcover reminded me of the BMW line which is why I liked the headcover. Very swag-gy.

[@VWRICH23]

JUST BOUGHT A OL' SKOOL R510 9.5 DEGREE BUT LOVE IT, LOVE YOUR VIDS RICK !!

[@cstridbeck]

You are so good at this! Thank you.

[@kenhawkins8360]

Im a big Taylormade fan as My bag is full on Taylormade. Glad to see Taylormade didn’t cut any corners with the M4 redo like Cobra did with the F9 redo!

[@andreewallace4386]

One thing I would love to see, is you play 6 holes where you approach every shot as a golf instructor, as a new video to kick off the new season.

[@Brewtal2009]

i picked up the original m4 a few months ago from my driving range 2nd hand for £120. Love it, although its seen better days.

[@danielcohen3159]

I think maybe they've realized that when a new driver comes out, a lot of us are only excited because it means the used ones from previous seasons just dropped in price. And they're trying to figure out how to get some of that revenue that's going to eBay. To be fair, if they offered a brand-new (NOS) M6 for under $300, I'd probably bite. Hey! It's new! Sorta...

[@28russ]

What's NOS mean mate? I got a new M6 on clearance about 9 moths ago. Ya might find a new one cheap if ya have a look. 🤷‍♂️🙂

[@keanur6112]

No. Its actually because of the pandemic. The have lost revenue the past 2 years because people didnt spend as much. The realised this hence why you are seeing sub £300 drivers that look like the latest but aint it,or a rebranded old model like this one. This is a 4 year old driver that was re released. We will be seeing more and more look a like sub300 drivers. Its good that rick is seeing what they are trying to do and informing people

[@jessearmstrong7214]

@@keanur6112 In australia the only thing open was golf courses, it was so hard to get anything from anybody because it was all sold out, I was selling old clubs for way more than they were worth simply because people wanted to get into golfing for something to do.

[@jessearmstrong7214]

I do the same thing, been hunting for a sim 1 to replace my m4, now that rick has just put his stamp on this driver, I could sell it for a lot more and buy one.

[@danielcohen3159]

@@3nCounting yep, New Old Stock. I guess it’s a more common term with guitars than golf equipment.