I Bought the Cheapest Excavator on Marketplace

[@davidknows3320]

Hate to state the obvious, but off rd and on road diesel are the same ULSD product now except for the dye. Not a contributor to smoke. Great buy, yes. Congrats

[@mikesmith8952]

If I remember correctly an old trick they used was adding tranny fluid to the fuel to clean the injectors which could be out of spec or possibly even gummed up. I'm no pro at diesels but a quick Internet search should explain how it works better than I can. Good luck, nice machine. Hope it serves you well.

[@allensandven0]

Yea off road fuel is the same just tax free of hi-way taxes

[@GOAT_GOATERSON]

Is off road diesel the same as diesel with red dye that's only allowed in agricultural equipment?

[@LavaCakes-g1g]

@@GOAT_GOATERSONpretty much yes

[@LavaCakes-g1g]

@@GOAT_GOATERSONjust a way for them to avoid the regular taxes… and easy way to catch people cheating the system if you get pulled over driving a regular diesel pickup with red diesel you’re screwed 😂

[@ricksanchez7459]

That's a good man there. I sell everything the same way. I sold a generator years ago and told the feller everything about it. He haggled the price UP! A few hundred more, and thanked me multiple times for being a straight shooter with him. We take really good maintainance of our stuff though. I know stuff happens, but I would feel bad if someone felt I cheated them.

[@billyhaddock5540]

Congrats Dave, on buying ur 89 Kubota Kh040 Excavator. don't forget to grease the rollers/wheels on the track. sounds like they need grease.

[@theforeman1097]

Great to see you honestly stating the purchase prices/costs in your vids!

[@thomasS.91061]

Very good. no lengthy opening and closing credits. straight to the point. I like everything thoroughly. Maybe I'll apply as a mini-jobber.

[@pmiller7886]

Dave, you might look at spraying out the fins on the radiator, they look to be clogged with dirt. Could affect it operating if you dig all day with it. Just an idea. I hope the machine works out good for you 👍

[@Dumpster_Dave]

Yeah, I usually always spray the radiators out. I don’t know why I didn’t.

[@michaelmactavish4445]

nice old kubota excavator@@Dumpster_Dave

[@det6912]

I like these older machines better. 👍🏼

[@charlieretro]

No computer Bs running these older ones.

[@williamnoel5092]

You are a hard working young man. Keep up the good work...

[@brotherbruce]

Low hours. You got a heck of a deal. Worth twice that price. A new model of that would cost $65,000 and may not serve your needs any better than this one.

[@northeasterndirtandpropert7974]

Just a small note Dave.I would avoid using that high pressure sprayer underneath up close to the swing bearing and seals.Most areas are okay,but avoid this area when pressure washing.the last thing you wanna do is change a swing bearing.Nice work.

[@davidsmith228]

Now it’s serviced.👍

[@kidhenderson8260]

You should lift up the side of the machine you are trying to tension the track on. There is a spec for clearance between two points. Over tensioning can lead to track damage. Great vid. New sub. I paid 9K for a 2011 Bobcat 325 with 1926 hours on it with a hydraulic thumb and love it. I live in upstate NY and equipment is hard to get unless you want to do allot of work on them. You did the right thing starting fresh with filters etc. no matter what the seller says.

[@LaLaLucky7777]

That was a sick deal ! $8 k for a very decent mini Ex! Damn good job ! Andrew is proud of you! FJB POS

[@BenKempa]

Looking forward to more videos. Looks like a great machine for 8 grand. Would look great with a fresh coat of paint and some fresh decals since the sheet metal is pretty straight. Super low hours for the age too.

[@michaelmactavish4445]

lucky kubota market and after market parts are still avaliable for the older ones still

[@olivermansfield8341]

People are way different over there. In Britain youll list it for 10 grand and the guy will show up with 7 grand and pretend it's broken and only worth 6

[@young11984]

Same here in the states too lol, ive seen those same excavators with 5-6k hrs and needing tracks or has final druve not working for $10-15k and needed a couple grand worth of repairs before using, i think he came out ok with it and i would love to find one with 3500hrs for $8k

[@kieranosullivan02]

​@@young11984yeah this guy was being honest he showed the play in the boom for no real reason, just being a fair man, gotta respect that

[@AndrewHollywood]

We do that too, mate.

[@hhazelhoff1363]

Why not run over all those white goods and crush them before putting them in dumpster

[@SoleEpiphany]

That’s when you tell him to hop to fvck and sell it to the next guy. Most overprice what they want out of it anyway to make haggling seem like the buyer is getting a deal.

[@CerebralAilment]

Looks like a solid machine! Gotta find a trailer to demo now!! That will make loading those dumpers a lot quicker too!

[@73DiamondReo]

Put in dumpster then smash. Less clean up. Might want to check the rollers out to make sure none are locked up or bearings shot also

[@MrTruckerf]

Good advice. Handle stuff very gently until it is in the dumpster, then mash hell out of it.

[@spencerrobinson2719]

I think a good winter project is putting a Hydraulic Thumb on it if possible. I think you need one for loading dumpsters, it would be more efficient.

[@Dumpster_Dave]

Yeah, I agree

[@capeclod]

I would have 100% jumped on it that price.

[@billburger3260]

Red or off road diesel does not make a machine smoke more or less than clear (on road) fuel. The owner said it smoked but cleared up after a few minutes of operation, Sounds like an oil issue NOT a fuel or filter issue. FYI.....I have 7 machines that all use red / off road diesel and none smoke.

[@mickryan3516]

Give it some love Dave they are a good machine you started out right goods clean and a service and you know it’s done mate

[@deathbecomesu4604]

Not bad for a 4 tonne digger, hope it comes handy for you

[@Islandwaterjet]

I have the KH50. Bought it at RB Auction for $7500 canadian dollars. 2400hrs. No need to go to the dealer, it is grey market the dealer does not want to talk to you anyway. All parts on the machine are available aftermarket. Example engine is a D950. Glow plugs will pretty well guaranteed to be burnt out try for 11 amps each total 33 amps on the main wire with your clamp on DC ammeter. Glow plugs are standard crossed it to bosch to avoid the dealer. The cylinder seal any hyd shop can source seal sets I repacked 4 of the cylinders. Hyd hoses are NPT and ORB nothing special. On the NPT had to use liquid loctite hyd thread sealer. Tape and pipe dope did not seal. Undercarriage did all the rollers with off the shelf metric bearings and seals. Tracks replaced from local track specialty supplier. Idler bushings made them myself on the lathe from a chunk of brass stock. The controls have those heim joints, these are readily available too no need to go to a dealer. Made a custom sized hyd thumb with a 3 way 12v valve off the bucket hoses. Press button for thumb release for bucket using same controls. Pins and bushing are all worn out so have been replacing these with standard size after boring. New seat was a $75 special from Princess Auto the canadian equivalent to your tractor supply. There is a suction strainer inside the hyd tank. Condensation in the hyd fluid makes this strainer plug up with ice in winter and you get zero movement. The strainer is an off the shelf NPT thread. Take the strainer off, thaw it on the woodstove then put it back. Hyd oil up to your elbow deep. Carefully check the supports back of the roll cage mine were rusted to the point the whole canopy was ready to fall off. Funny that was the only spots rusted badly. Still to do is the main boom to base joint. Mine is so badly seized tried heat and 20 ton press still could not shift the pin. The swing cyl is worn out at the cyl end.

[@MrTruckerf]

Man you had to do some extensive work on that baby! Good thing you can work on it yourself. If you took it to a dealer and they did all of that it would be expensive!

[@redwolf230]

Im glad one of us snaped out of it. I would have just kept looking at it

[@joedoakes8307]

That radiator is REALLY packed with dirt !

[@Dumpster_Dave]

I should have washed it

[@young11984]

What i came to mention too, washed everything but the radiator😂. I did that to my track loader, washed all under in and out of it, did a complete service then looked at the radiator at how nasty it was then thought….its old and fragile, its not giving me problems so im not going to create one now either

[@MrTruckerf]

I use the air gun to clean my radiators. Power water can mash the cooling fins flat and block air flow.

[@jamescole1786]

9/11/23; Dave, congrats on yur 'new' Kubota Excavator! Always enjoy your channel, hard work & get-the-job-done attitude! Best wishes from NewOrleans area. Am sure you & AC will have many conversations about this equip. Glad you made the purchase. Also appreciate your straight up talk & video showing $/ price paid. You are showing all we YT viewers how an Honest man handles new purchase of this equipment. A+ Dave! Don't think guy u bought it from did any of 'service' work. I watch several other channels (Farmcraft101, SalvageWorkshop, Diesel Creek & others) who buy used equip & dirty fuel tank is always source of engine performance issues. Hope you are ok on this. Stay safe & carry on!🔧⚙️💪👍🍺😊

[@Dumpster_Dave]

Thanks I’ll have to check the tank

[@leol1682]

Like the new Kubota exc, it look good .

[@chunkychambers1530]

Seems like a good price for that size of machine!

[@AdelinoGambiarras]

Yap David you differently ned a hydrologic thumb on is much better.

[@Алексей-я8э2н]

Большой лайк 👍первый американец который МОЕТ технику ДО ремонта а на ПОСЛЕ 👍👍👍

[@terrymcgillicuddy8056]

Great editing, Dave. 👌 subscribed

[@Dumpster_Dave]

Thanks 👍

[@tonypaul2987]

Oh man I loved the way you started your video with a pic of your dog. I subscribed.

[@PopEyed]

"....I better get some seat time in this because, uhh, I'm just going to embarass myself." Nah, Dave! All of life is an exercise in learning and having some fun while you learn. I enjoy your videos, keep 'em coming. 🙂

[@jpasc611]

There is usually a filter inside the hydraulic tank on the pick up to the pump wouldn’t be a bad idea to take a look at it

[@Dumpster_Dave]

I wanted to change that but having a hard time locating one.

[@briang.8176]

Could that be what’s causing it to be so slow? I’m not trolling and understand it’s older, but man that seems to run incredibly slow even when just tracking or when you fired it up at the place you bought it from. @@Dumpster_Dave

[@mikesmith8952]

If you can't find the filter maybe you could adapt one just outside the tank as long as it has enough flow for the system. Just a thought .😊

[@carloskawasaki656]

Thank you for sharing , i learn a lot , good job 👍👍👍👍

[@andrewmoore3491]

Dave was $8k a great deal or ok deal? I have no idea what they go for at that age. I do know Kabota is a great brand with a lot of dependability, so that’s great.

[@reecemcdowell7768]

Yes 8k is a good deal. Any excavator that is operational for that price is a pretty solid deal especially a kubota.

[@85square]

its damn near ompossible to find a mini ex for less than 12k in any operation condition, 8k was pretty decent deal.

[@LaLaLucky7777]

That's a killer deal look at what a Used John Deere tractor cost??? He got a mini Ex and it's a Kubota

[@michaelmactavish4445]

yeah and parts for it still avaliable at kubota dealers in u.s and canada

[@dmtadventures7044]

I’d buy a pre-emission $8k excavator all day long. A little cash for parts and that thing will dig holes just like every other excavator. Nice find👍👍

[@cecilveley5722]

Ya,, that ol girls antique but it will do what you want it to it’s a pretty decent machine,

[@Spitter-ud8jd]

There is some nasty bugger weld repairs to the bottom of the mast right at the pin. Probably explains the cheap price. Good luck hope it don't cause problems in the future.🍻

[@RicardoEspañaSevilla]

My follow from Sevilla,Spain. Congrats.

[@davidsnyder2000]

Dave I can’t believe how big your puppy dog and Andrew’s fur baby are growing up to be so big. They are so awesome looking. I’ve never seen Labs with that color fur before until watching your videos. That was super cool that you you hooked Andrew up with a puppy. Your a good dude👍❤️🙏

[@Dumpster_Dave]

They grow up fast

[@KennysTreeRemoval]

Feel like I'm watching Andrew Camarata. :).good job bud.

[@Dumpster_Dave]

Thanks

[@richardthomas1743]

Looks like a decent machine Dave , I see that when you was loading the dumpster that the engine smoking had stopped. Maybe an oil change was what it needed to stop that? Off road Diesel has changed Dave , here is a little bit of an article that I found on it. Wishing you all the best with your new equipment! 👍 On-Road and Off-Road Diesel - What’s the difference? There is no chemical difference between on-road and off-road diesel fuels. On-road diesel, also known as clear diesel, can be purchased at the local gas station. Off-road diesel is dyed red and is sold through bulk distributors. The only differences are in the color, cost, and intended use. In the past, off-road diesel had a higher sulfur content, which caused a smokier burn. With changes to fuel specifications from the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) gradually implemented beginning in 2008 and completely enacted in 2014, the two fuels are chemically identical except for the coloration. What Is Off-Road Diesel? As the name implies, off-road diesel is for use by farms (agricultural use), industrial, and construction vehicles that do not travel on public roadways. It is not taxed, which allows a lower pricing scale. Using red-dyed diesel in the truck you drive to and from work could net you a hefty fine. Nontaxed diesel fuel uses are defined in both state and federal tax laws. While the federal laws are applicable in all states and territories, some specific uses may be permitted within individual states. Tax rates also vary from state to state, although the federal taxes remain the same across the board. The goal of increased regulations regarding off-road diesel is designed to reduce emissions control as part of the clean air initiative. By reducing sulfur content, off-road fuels are producing fewer air pollutants. In many instances, exhaust emissions have been decreased by as much as 90%. Emissions standards for diesel-powered marine vessels and locomotives are not included in current regulations. There are plans to revise and apply a more strict policy regarding these uses in the near future.

[@Dumpster_Dave]

Interesting

[@VetvsWorld]

A steal bro. Glad I don’t sleep, as I found your channel. 🤣 ✊🏻🖤

[@MitzvosGolem1]

Change final drive gear oil. Some rollers are filled with oil sealed . You may wanna check them squeaky. Check rotary hydraulic swivel for leaks . Clean hydraulic and fuel suction screen in tanks. Put one gallon of Lucas hydraulic oil seal conditioner in it. Stops small leaks softens old orings plastic packings . Good machine for price👍 I have a old Yanmar and a newer 2016 CAT 308e which already needed $7000 in dealer service for DPF and computer. My old Yanmar 1994 never once broke down. One hose and tracks.

[@King_TuTT]

good stuff. love learning on how to do maintenance on these machines. one day I'll have my own. why is it squeaking some much when driving? sounds like some bad drive bearings that are very dry.?

[@Joe-mf4jx]

That is a well greased grease gun

[@SmittysShop]

Good deal! Best of luck with it, Dave! My Yanmar has a hydro thumb but it's got a real short throw. Every time I use it I say the same thing as you did. "Useless!" Make sure you get a long throw piston if you upgrade to hydraulic!

[@Dumpster_Dave]

Yeah definitely will.

[@oldodger]

I think a former company (that owned it) called it a KX 151 (Kubota eXcavator 151) for their own purposes and inventory. I think this Kubota mini excavator is actually model KH-040. Just thinking out loud. Good find with whatever numbers !

[@dand33911]

Maybe one was grey market, and one was US for parts purposes.

[@Dumpster_Dave]

When I went to the Kabota dealer, they looked it up as KX 151

[@tutekohe1361]

I believe it’s a KH 040, the 040 standing for 4 tonne (weight class).

[@megape95]

The kh series had the stick control like the one dave has. The kx series all had servo control. At least the european ones. I think this is a kh040. This unit has the old style drives, and no servo. Lucky the parts fitted, a lot is interchangeble

[@paulweakley3440]

You got a really good deal at 8 grand imho. Honestly you could turn around and sell it now that you did repairs and do that same video again (great video). I bet you could even sell the machine to a viewer (I would buy your machine if it was in Indiana).

[@buffsheeri]

A good buy, I think you will get lots of use out of it.

[@Dumpster_Dave]

Hopefully

[@raywilson800]

Great buy Dave⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

[@cadcad4974]

I have seen alot of used equipment on youtube, but I think you got a decent deal on the kubota.

[@1coppertop]

Great machine for the money. Not all dented and leaking. You could really benefit from a hydraulic thumb i agree.

[@sandie062985]

Dave I think you have a top or bottom roller bad have fun with your new toy

[@floydjackson298]

Blue tooth compadable.✔️

[@karaayers2867]

Good price for a machine that size. I paid $8000 for my 3500lb takeuchi mini ex and it's been a workhorse for 5 years now. Even if the engine needs sleeves/rings its not too hard of a job

[@Mike-Honcho-]

Hope the machine works out for you, good video, thanks for sharing.

[@LaLaLucky7777]

Congratulations!

[@SPEEDY-FABSHACK]

The radiator looks like it would benefit from being blown out with some compressed air, it looked clogged. Have the hydraulic line pressure checked, it looks a little on the low side to me.

[@TheHomePros6221]

Great video dave I love this stuff!!👍👍

[@N-V-B]

Started the video- thought I was watching an Andrew Camarata video :)

[@DumpsterMarcus]

Good video! Love your channel name lol just subscribed

[@TarZan49]

Thanks for the video.

[@Dumpster_Dave]

You bet

[@greggb1416]

Well, sir only time will tell on its worth, but damn, can’t believe all the straight sheet metal…

[@dankreoger611]

My grandmother used to have a metal lawnswing made of the same pattern as that front platform guard. Lol

[@Dumpster_Dave]

That’s funny

[@joeclark9042]

Nevermind bud I see if you got Napa filters on some of that stuff yeah don't look like they did any kind of service on that thing bro people lie just to make money no but we had one and we had to replace the hydraulic pump because the arms didn't want to move to good and that's the way they Linares looking let me know if you got to change it cuz you got to luck trying to find one so let me know thanks

[@scottshugdinis2660]

I always seem to learn a trick or two from your channel. It never dawned on me to buy the pails of Shell Rotella, and break them down into 5 quart containers to make it easier to handle. Efficient and $ savings too. Funny thing was. When watching this, you captured a storm coming in. And here in Connecticut the exact same thing happened 3 days latter. Absolute downpours.Pretty crazy. Also, bet your glad you have plenty of space at your new shop. At this rate your going to need it. Take care.

[@timfagan816]

Storm😂😂 that's called dark clouds where I live!

[@Eargesplitten-Loudenboomer]

lol yea the little things. My grandpa would put old stuff in a big bucket but would break down new stuff with old 5 or one quart containers with silver sharpee saying what was in it.

[@AndrewBrowner]

alot of the functions seem slow in one direction and faster in the other? or is it just not moving much fluid and everything is slow?

[@Dumpster_Dave]

It is kind of slow

[@raytalbot5890]

Go talk to Andrew, he will help you sort the thumb & the controls out 👍👍🇬🇧🇬🇧

[@burkhardgobler8581]

Hi Dav COOL VIDEO

[@Dumpster_Dave]

Thanks

[@joeclark9042]

Hey Dave just let you know Napa can carry all those filters and stuff bro

[@georgeenriquez612]

Not bad man. I’d say you did good for the size of machine that is

[@bluegrallis]

Using "off road" fuel does NOT make a diesel engine smoke! The only thing different about it, is the dye they put in to show you haven't paid road tax on it so they can lock you up if you're caught with it in your "on road" vehicle. I've ran farm equipment for decades with off road fuel, and none smoke until there is an engine problem. A little smoke on start up is quite common though.

[@andydahle1061]

Does it have digging power? I would of hogged some dirt before I bought it.

[@Dumpster_Dave]

It’s not bad

[@theslushygoldfish]

I may be a bit early, because I haven't finished the video. There is a small lever, to the right of the compartment under the seat. Moving that up or down, should change your controls. Looked to be a thin rod with a finger loop.

[@Dumpster_Dave]

I believe that’s a dip stick

[@CaptainCurt07]

*Not sure I missed it but I noticed how dirty the radiator was, cleaning that will make that run way better less heat, I’ve bought few machines and they all got very hot or overheated and hence why those sellers sold just saying*

[@mikesmith8952]

Sellers almost alwYs decive buyers, I never trust anything they tell me. I used to sell used autos and always told my buyers what was good, bad or needed repairs. I built up decent customer base by telling the truth. Still do the same thing today but it's rare, IMHO.

[@bradjlang7944]

You forgot to blow off the radiator, looks plugged up

[@MrTruckerf]

He went back and did it.

[@jacobbuckley8232]

We see storms all the time like that in Florida

[@Kevin-is-here]

Gotta try the bag over the filter trick to save a mess

[@Dumpster_Dave]

Yeah

[@alanclark639]

OOOOoo ooch! Couldn/t believe it when you fetched out all that Green for a smokey Joe at nearly 4,000 hours! Is that the market Stateside? I should live so long! That machine in England would be half that price and if you were a seller - it might stick. Auctions are fully of them at scrap money. That said, it doesn't look a bad machine, all the pins seem tight ( oh dear, I've just seen the repair to the dipper!) and under carriage - the old models with long lever controls always need attention - and usually when you've driven it into some godawful position - in winter. How very dare you do preventative maintenance - showing the rest of us up! Best of luck with this - now I know you're here I'll pop in every now and then.

[@jameslewis5643]

well done Dave from uk

[@Dumpster_Dave]

Thanks

[@hamop3]

Nice buy Dave, should get plenty of years out of the ole girl. That is if you do not up grade in the future. But either way, good buy.

[@coolhandrob8893]

Red diesel doesn't smoke any more or less than clear diesel. 8 grand was a steal for that!

[@bradpiovesan8550]

Would be cool to see you get a working thumb hooked up. It It would make a cool Andrew collab video.

[@iamthemoss]

Great video Dave, I have a JD 320E skid steer, I am about done with it, would like to sell eventually and get me an excavator.

[@Dumpster_Dave]

It’s nice to have both if possible

[@iamthemoss]

@@Dumpster_Dave It would be nice but between my tractor and skid steer, I have about $60K tied up, can't afford both, LOL. I've rented excavators, love them. You can rent a 6 ton here for about $2700 per month but that means I have to take off work to get my money's worth.

[@falconkrause9324]

Great deal man I am jealous

[@Dumpster_Dave]

I sure another one will pop up on market place.

[@oneteaminbristolbcfc]

Thanks for this

[@TheCaseyCunningham]

Seems like the guy you bought it from actually took decent care of his machines. Was it perfect? No. But better than most. I see so many used machines for sale that were never cleaned and are in terrible condition. Look at that Hitachi that Jesse Muller bought. The previous owners didn’t take care of it at all. I don’t get it. A clean machine does give the client you’re a professional, and that you take pride in your work. I’m not in excavation, but there’s nothing better than a feeling of achievement after I completed a job for a client.

[@joe-ix1pm]

Of course you have to be on your phone while backing it off the trailer.

[@Dumpster_Dave]

Lol every time I’m filming my phone rings

[@bobbg9041]

Every time somone buys used equipment they got to wash all the mud and grease off. That stuff makes it run better.

[@denisruzic7829]

First thing after recovering and before starting the engine you need to check for oil in cilinders.. starting the engine with oil in cilinders will destroy the engine

[@hawaiiansunrise8984]

I think Popeye tightened all the filters. LOL

[@hillbillyfranks]

Got a good machine right there Better than using your back Hope it works for you seeing the next one stay safe have a good day

[@Hammerjockeyrepair]

nice machine!! Where abouts are ya located? baroni recycling isnt too far from me!

[@Dumpster_Dave]

Athens

[@Hammerjockeyrepair]

@@Dumpster_Dave cool stuff!! I’m 45 mins away from ya in amenia

[@laisuresboringadventures7052]

Wat u could do is run a deverter valve of some with couplings and a push button switch to clamp and unclamp a hydraulic thumb like the tractor Andrew might have some other ideas on how to do that that thumb is useless and in the way😊

[@cecilveley5722]

Holy gees that a hell of a deal did ya bitch slap him on the way out 😂

[@Dumpster_Dave]

Lol

[@HughzieTube]

Dave there's a Doosan mechanic I follow over here in the UK called 'Ali's Digger Diary', in one of his recent videos he talks about putting a change over valve on the boom swing in order to run an extra service on the boom. He's not got around to doing the job yet but it might be an interest to you when he does as it would be a way for you to run a thumb on yours. 17:06 on this video is where he talks about it. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gpC2k2Vvbr6MjKc

[@Dumpster_Dave]

I’ll check it out thank you

[@JeezusChrist]

a backhoe just sold near me for $750 because the backhoe hydraulic pistons were removed. came with replacements but needed the work.. i'm kicking myself for not getting it.

[@Dumpster_Dave]

That sounds like a good deal

[@SuperAleyda123]

Is there any way to add coupler for a hydraulic thumb ?

[@Dumpster_Dave]

There’s always a way just have to spend some time and see what I need

[@Tman0517]

Hes not really wrong though, with a switch valve you could change whitch way the hydraulics flow. I know they have manual switch blocks but theres also button activaded ones witch may be way more useful.

[@Dumpster_Dave]

I think the guy I bought it from was saying to disconnect the off set boom and hook that up to the thumb, that would be a pain the way it’s set up.