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I Bought & Tore Down Subaru’s New Replacement Oil Filters For The US Market. Are They Good Or Bad?!

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MrSubaru1387

MrSubaru1387

Күн бұрын

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@fazelock6202
@fazelock6202 Жыл бұрын
Just watched the whole video, and I don't even own a Subaru
@joelnrs
@joelnrs Жыл бұрын
Same 😂
@elcoollow5955
@elcoollow5955 Жыл бұрын
Same
@eugenef0zzy
@eugenef0zzy 10 ай бұрын
Definitely a sign to buy one
@georgeayres2310
@georgeayres2310 8 ай бұрын
I had my oil changed at my Subaru dealership two weeks ago and I checked my oil three days ago. I discovered oil pooled around the filter housing about 1/8” deep. I drove to the dealership and they said a lady came in yesterday with the same problem. They said that Subaru redesigned the filter and that this is a nation wide problem but corporate hasn’t given them any instructions on how to fix it. They changed the filter and said it was fixed. I drove home, 9 miles, and checked the oil and there is a slight amount of oil around the filter. The oil filter is accessible by opening the hood. 2018 Forester with 30380 miles on it. I called corporate and they assigned me a rep and case number. He said he wasn’t aware of my specific issue but would have to do some research and make some calls and get back to me. Anyway, I took a paper towel and cleaned all the oil from around the filter, let it set a few days and checked today. Car hasn’t ran and no oil. I started it and let it warm up then applied gas to run at 2500 rpm for 5-10 seconds. A slight amount of oil appears at the low side of the filter. I checked the filter at it is a 15208AA20A from Indonesia. I guess I will have to wait for the rep to call.
@bigweeweehaver
@bigweeweehaver 2 ай бұрын
Any updates?
@duskycotw8404
@duskycotw8404 17 күн бұрын
@@bigweeweehaver waiting swell
@paulahart4513
@paulahart4513 10 күн бұрын
@@georgeayres2310 Maybe you should just replace the filter with a Mobil 1 M-110. To hell with the factory units.
@chrisb9478
@chrisb9478 Жыл бұрын
I’ve been using the Wix XP 57055 for years now. Great filter, OE pressure spec, awesome filters.
@bengarrido638
@bengarrido638 Жыл бұрын
But made in Mexico now. I still use them though
@PeterHernandez-lg2eh
@PeterHernandez-lg2eh Жыл бұрын
I use the denso Japanese filter
@ntotrr8585
@ntotrr8585 Жыл бұрын
Same here. I use the 57055 filter on my Ascent and have used Wix filters on all the Subies that I've owned in the past. In case anyone isn't aware, the Napa Gold filter is made by Wix.
@gonpostal1971
@gonpostal1971 Жыл бұрын
But do you feel the new style is better than anything on the shelf at my local auto parts store? Wix is still good, right? (And by default, the Walmart by Wix).
@bobmcl2406
@bobmcl2406 Жыл бұрын
Up here in the Glorious People's Republic of Canuckistan, WIX are now made by Mann Filters. I still use them, but I have no idea if this was a step up or a step back.
@patrickmercado5284
@patrickmercado5284 Жыл бұрын
Still gotta burn through the Mazda NR 31s you told me to buy !
@Willohbee
@Willohbee Жыл бұрын
😂😂😅
@Drrrtyy
@Drrrtyy 11 ай бұрын
*N3R1
@Doncan0823
@Doncan0823 Жыл бұрын
I’ve been using Purolator filters since the ‘80s without a single issue. And will continue to use.
@802Garage
@802Garage Жыл бұрын
It seems the larger Purolator ONE PL14460 for the old EJ18/EJ22 and non spiral exhaust cars is getting scarce and it makes me sad.
@kevinhageman4048
@kevinhageman4048 Жыл бұрын
I stopped using the blue ones and switched to Purolator's Pure One until a few years ago when they developed the Boss line.
@davehoffman515
@davehoffman515 Жыл бұрын
I have to thank you Subaru owners for keeping the official rx8 filter in production. It makes sourcing them very easy when I change the oil in my rx8.
@paulahart4513
@paulahart4513 Жыл бұрын
Ive been using the Mobil1 M1-110 filter for years on my Subaru X2.5 for years and am extremely satisfied y with it. Great quality, a bit more pricey.
@rogerknutson9258
@rogerknutson9258 11 ай бұрын
+1 to that. Been running M1-110 and 108. Just dont know if its running it at the OEM pressure spec or anything else but it has worked great for me. I still change it out every oil change.
@dezinedude1417
@dezinedude1417 11 күн бұрын
Likewise. The Mobil1 M1-110 I've used exclusively! Just before and after a 9500 km trip in July. Works just fine and no oil comsumption on the entire trip.
@gryhze
@gryhze 11 ай бұрын
Now this video explains why I rec'd a blank blue oil filter in June. Thanks for the heads up and comparison. Find your videos informative and valuable.
@steveksi
@steveksi Жыл бұрын
I was charged $26 for a unmarked filter from a dealership couple weeks ago. Always shop around.
@802Garage
@802Garage Жыл бұрын
Nice to see they are being made to similar specifications even if there are small differences. The Indonesian filter ADBV may be a bit thinner, but the reinforcing ribs will mean similar overall strength I'd imagine, and the larger size may mean more flow potential. The difference in filtration media area is likely very small, and it's definitely still a quality and strong canister. Bypass valve looks nice as well and the coil spring is actually a higher quality item to my mind. Overall, without some insane levels of testing, I'd say use without worry! It's definitely made like other quality filters we consider top tier.
@VotEtoPizdets
@VotEtoPizdets Жыл бұрын
Those differences are a bit concerning though. Id rather pay the scalpers 25 bucks for a guaranteed Made in Japan filter than to risk the Indonesian ones for 12 bucks.
@802Garage
@802Garage Жыл бұрын
@@VotEtoPizdets Not sure why. They are effectively identical. The Indonesian filter has what, 10% less filter media at most? A stronger spiral core with larger holes. Keep in mind the area of a circle is exponential with diameter and the filter media is far more restrictive than those holes. It has a potentially better flowing ADBV that will definitely still function. It has a coil spring for retention instead of a leaf spring which is generally a more premium feature. Overall it looks like just as good a filter as the Japanese with what looks like slightly more material on the filter metal end caps as well. Very stout construction. The only issue would be if the filtration media is not as high quality, but it at least looks similar if not identical. Could be from the same supplier. For anyone who does regular oil changes, this is a premium filter far better than most of the cheap filters at parts stores and far better than the Subaru blue filters. People don't need to stress over this one.
@Zephyr8086
@Zephyr8086 Жыл бұрын
@@802Garage I was having the same thoughts exactly. If anything, the pleats in the Indonesian filter looked more uniform, which could lead to more consistent filtering. On top of that, having a slightly more compliant drain back gasket could make it seal better.
@802Garage
@802Garage Жыл бұрын
@@Zephyr8086 Indeed. From what we can see in this video, absolutely no reservations about the Indonesian filter. Is it a bummer it doesn't say Japan on it? Sure. Indonesians need work too. ;)
@MrPoppyDuck
@MrPoppyDuck Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info Mr Subaru! I havent had problems with the no name blue filters but it is nice to know that a better filter will soon be available for us North America Subie owners.
@J.R.F.23
@J.R.F.23 4 ай бұрын
When my 2024 BRZ comes in I already confirmed with my dealer/service center; that I can supply the oil and filter for my oil changes. I am going with Pennzoil Ultra Platinum and Wix oil filters (which have been proven through testing to be amongst the best)
@geraldf.1222
@geraldf.1222 Жыл бұрын
I used a wide variety of filters on my '96 Pathfinder. Factory, A/C, Several Fram, Mobile-1, etc. I used Mobile-1 oil first 100,000 miles, then Synthetic Blend after that. Zero Oil Consumption, even after 200,000 miles. I think the important part is that I CHANGED the oil EVERY 5,000 miles.
@jeremybirdwell2623
@jeremybirdwell2623 Жыл бұрын
I just run the Mobil 1 m1-110a on my three Subies. They are easy to find at any AutoZone or Walmart. They are good quality filters and only put 3-5k miles on them anyway.
@georgecurtis6463
@georgecurtis6463 Жыл бұрын
I use the same. I run with m1 oil and change once a year. I only put on less than 7,000 miles on my cars.
@chadgantt7379
@chadgantt7379 Жыл бұрын
I have been using the Napa Platinum and so far so good. I have read good reviews on it.
@barrythomas6429
@barrythomas6429 Жыл бұрын
I still use the RX8 filters , even if they are a little pricey direct from Mazda.
@GAMRMNTS2
@GAMRMNTS2 Жыл бұрын
Stop the cap 🧢
@davidwcoffin
@davidwcoffin 4 ай бұрын
I just bought the Subaru branded oil filter from Walmart (part# 15208AA15A) and it comes in a completely different packaging than shown. It is the black filter stamped with "Made in Indonesia", has the "M" stamped on the top plate and cost $10.97 before tax.
@ap101081
@ap101081 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comparison. I use only Amsoil products but even they recommend WIX if they can't get you their own. Food for thought. My 2023 Impreza came with 3 free oil changes so I'll request the black filter when due.
@TassieLorenzo
@TassieLorenzo Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video! It's interesting to see that the construction of the Indonesian Tokyo Roki is quite different. By comparison, the Thai Mahle Honda filters and Japanese Mahle Honda filters are pretty much identical. I guess Tokyo Roki purchased quite different types of manufacturing machines for the Indonesian factory.
@jeffkortsch8276
@jeffkortsch8276 11 ай бұрын
The filter made in Indonesia has many of the same characteristics of a Sakura oil filter that @WhipCityWrencher recently reviewed (Honda Oil Filter 15400-PLM-A02 vs. Sakura Oil Filter C-1821 Oil Filter Cut Open Comparison) including the coil spring with the cup it sits in and the spacing of the four rivets that attach the bypass valve.
@randymoore6063
@randymoore6063 Жыл бұрын
I order off Amazon and get the Black ones every time.
@tekenator
@tekenator Жыл бұрын
Same!
@randymoore6063
@randymoore6063 Жыл бұрын
Yep and just looked at mine, it’s a true Japan filter too.
@OhhState
@OhhState Жыл бұрын
Napa gold on my 2018 Outback. No issues for far going on 89,000 miles. Switched to Napa gold around 66,000 miles. Runs great! Oil changes every 6,000 miles.
@JTfixit4u
@JTfixit4u Жыл бұрын
Great info. Going to try the Mazda oil filter next time. Thanks.
@jacobwardmo
@jacobwardmo 10 ай бұрын
Local Subaru dealership just got in a bunch of the Tokyo Roki filters that are marked with Made in Japan, clearly the real thing. Thankfully I watched this video earlier on, because once I realized what they had in stock, I bought 14 of them. They actually cost me less than the acdelco replacement filter, and it's still from the dealership. For clarification, these mine are the ones ending in AA100.
@itshofftime
@itshofftime Жыл бұрын
Surely they just contracted an existing filter plant. I'd bet the farm that new filter matches something else already on the market.
@johnb1658
@johnb1658 4 ай бұрын
Subaru uses the same filter as Honda and Fram/Honeywell has already been making the Honda filters in blue so all they had to do was paint Subaru on them instead of Honda.
@thesparkster
@thesparkster Жыл бұрын
Purolator Boss filters are one of the best.
@craigh7271
@craigh7271 11 ай бұрын
I can't picture Tokyo roki having built a factory in Indonesia, but am leaning towards they might be made by Sakura filters. They do quite a few aftermarket brands here in Australia and their own brand. I've used 100s of them and never had an issue and have cut a few open in the past for inspection.
@nfsfanAndrew
@nfsfanAndrew Жыл бұрын
Think ill stick with the mazda filter every 2,500mi still for my modifed EJ. E85 dirties up oil quick
@theOG_OREUS
@theOG_OREUS Жыл бұрын
I came here to say this exact thing. Though I don't run E85 and change it out about 3.5-4k.
@daniellamarre5048
@daniellamarre5048 Жыл бұрын
Change oil and filter on due time and everything will run smooth, whatever filter brand.
@Wrang15
@Wrang15 Жыл бұрын
Yep I do mine every 3 months lot of slow dusty off road driving.
@philn1601
@philn1601 Жыл бұрын
You can use the HOnda K 2.4L or J3.5L oil filters to replace it. They are interchangable as we do in Asia.
@dgecse
@dgecse Жыл бұрын
Will be really interesting to see what the aa100 ends up being - I would think if they changed designs they'd change the p/n the way they did for the bigger filter...
@judih.8754
@judih.8754 Жыл бұрын
Ive gotten the black AA160 filters on eBay for a few years now for our '21 and '23 cars. They are the made in Japan type.
@wei8371
@wei8371 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video, I think the quality of the 15208AA20A is almost the same as the 160.
@jerrymoore7669
@jerrymoore7669 Жыл бұрын
Napa gold or wix has not let me down yet.
@perrybucsdad
@perrybucsdad 10 күн бұрын
The last Napa Gold for my Outback said "Made in China" on it. ::(
@CarsSimplified
@CarsSimplified Жыл бұрын
I was using aftermarket parts on my Crosstrek and forgot this was an issue and still going on! Those new filters look pretty good. Definitely better than anything a quick lube place would install.
@tylerniday8935
@tylerniday8935 Жыл бұрын
Other than the generic blue filters leaking, we have seen no issues from any type. The generics looked to be a bad batch for a very short period of time. The parts dept had several cases to dispose of at one point recalled for defects. Unless you're in a high heat area or heavy duty use I wouldn't go crazy deciding. They all work.
@tree8761
@tree8761 Жыл бұрын
Not a bad surface layer visual difference. I would have done some proper testing with poor quality oil and so on to get the disagreement between people out of the way. I've never noticed a difference with these oil filters, I strongly feel if a brand had wanted the best for their cars no matter what they would have just have just given the same design overall or within the same margin (not enough to make any difference) to their whole line up. I would have taken a look at the construction of the filter media, the amount of pleats, filtered some bad oil with some particles and testing things a little further. The titles only suggests hype in the theory of it all without any actual conclusion on the topic. I hope to see more testing on this from you.
@c.m.9881
@c.m.9881 Жыл бұрын
I'll stick with Purolator Boss PBL14615. I don't trust OE to not change suppliers not telling you, and screw you over to save a few cents. I suppose different brands could do the same, but I trust them a little bit more.
@jp2246
@jp2246 Жыл бұрын
Same here, I got noise on start up with the blue factory filter, minimal with the WIX, none with the Boss
@josephhettiger2711
@josephhettiger2711 Жыл бұрын
Good choice best filter made . Far superior to the Indonesia counter part😊
@Coolbreeze589
@Coolbreeze589 Жыл бұрын
I just picked one of these new filters up from my local Subaru dealer last week for $9.58. I’m impressed with the overall quality compared to the the blue filters.
@villadelrefugio
@villadelrefugio Жыл бұрын
Ive always used Fram Force or Titanium part no ending in 7317. Only bacause 1) its included in an oil change bundle every month at Advance Auto and 2 my brothers Honda and my dads Acura use the same filter as well. Easy to remember.
@parsley0120
@parsley0120 Жыл бұрын
Definitely happy to see that Subaru is giving the North American market a better filter now! I just bought more 160s, I use them for my 2022 Outback and my sister’s 2015 Crosstrek. I’ll wait to see if you test one of these on one of your cars, Mr. Subaru, then decide what way I’ll go for future filters! So far I’m still leaning toward the 160s but I’ll use the new NA market one in a pinch.
@chawkinz
@chawkinz Жыл бұрын
I bought 6 160s on EBay, turned out to be counterfeit all. EBay refunded money.
@parsley0120
@parsley0120 Жыл бұрын
@@chawkinzI’ve bought them on eBay for several years now, always from the same seller, and I’ve never had a problem. I’ve always been sent genuine filters that have all the hallmarks of the real filters and packaging.
@mark8684
@mark8684 Жыл бұрын
@@parsley0120I’m trying to find the Japanese 160s; can you tell me your eBay source? Thanks much!
@Electricmarquis
@Electricmarquis 11 ай бұрын
@@chawkinz Did they ship from China? I found several ebay japan oil filters that are fake. Amazon also has 3rd party seller that sell fake ones.
@chawkinz
@chawkinz 11 ай бұрын
China company shipped from California.@@Electricmarquis
@danny91014
@danny91014 Жыл бұрын
I work at Subaru in Jacksonville FL. We have the Tokyo Roki in stock and use them on my Subaru and I do mean the Japanese ones.
@winstonelston5743
@winstonelston5743 4 ай бұрын
I have a 2023 Crosstrek; I had my first oil change August in Franklin, TN and the original black filter was replaced with a Subaru-marked blue. Second oil change a couple of weeks ago with a black Subaru filter in Decatur, GA. Seems like a lot of people are buying Subarus these days. I took a long road trip to view the eclipse and about half the cars I saw on the way to and back from Wildcat Bluff were Six-Stars.
@wtpanos
@wtpanos 4 ай бұрын
Decatur resident here as well! Just bought my first Subir, an outback. Do you go to six Star for service and oil changes?
@winstonelston5743
@winstonelston5743 4 ай бұрын
@@wtpanos Since I got the 3-year maintenance with the new car, I go back to Stivers Decatur Subaru.
@ThePhotographyHobbyist
@ThePhotographyHobbyist Жыл бұрын
For the 2.4L turbo engine, WIX WL10078. Problem solved. Easy to find at O'Reilly's, etc.
@zacshead
@zacshead Жыл бұрын
I run the same on my 2020 FA20.
@VRTRedStage
@VRTRedStage Жыл бұрын
Nicely done! We just got our first shipment in today.
@MrSubaru1387
@MrSubaru1387 Жыл бұрын
Nice!!
@RodSwansmad
@RodSwansmad Жыл бұрын
Here in Sydney, Australia at my local Subaru service centre when I get the oil filter , it’s always been black over the years. Never seen the blue filters here 👍
@802Garage
@802Garage Жыл бұрын
I believe most of the blue filters were made in Mexico, so it would make sense you weren't getting them there. Not that they couldn't have used a different factory.
@joeliopro1740
@joeliopro1740 Жыл бұрын
You are also ruled by the Japanese market over there, so very unsurprising facts are facts lol!
@michaelking42
@michaelking42 Жыл бұрын
Not true blue.
@Jacob-vx4zw
@Jacob-vx4zw Жыл бұрын
Love your videos! You helped me feel more confident picking up a 24 Crosstrek Sport. The only thing I’m still worried about is the infotainment since the climate controls are baked into the screen. There was a class action suit on the older infotainment setups being slow, laggy, or glitchy and makes me reconsider the longevity and reliability of the infotainment. Is this something you consider a problem for someone who wants to use their cars long term? Is there anything we can do to maintain or prevent issues? You rock!!
@xalexanderx7342
@xalexanderx7342 Жыл бұрын
Keep your hands clean before using the screen, don’t spray any harsh chemicals on the screen directly and keep it dry and clean at all times, use a sunshade in the hottest days of the year hope this helps
@fjg2896
@fjg2896 Жыл бұрын
I have a 2024 Crosstrek Limited and I think the complaints about the infotainment system are overblown. I mastered the use of mine with little difficulty. I like it.
@eodninja6
@eodninja6 Жыл бұрын
I have a hookup at my local Toyota dealer. I been using FRS filter for my FA20 WRX and Forester and now my XV Crosstrek. I havent had any issues at all.
@Th3Think3r
@Th3Think3r Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the heads up. I look forward to more info on these new black filters. I'll keep pulling from my 160 stock for now. It'll be interesting to see if they keep shipping Foresters and other vehicles made in Japan with the 160s or the new Indonesian filter.
@mattsbrute
@mattsbrute Ай бұрын
I just bought a new 24 forester sport and it came from the factory with the 160 filter.
@Th3Think3r
@Th3Think3r Ай бұрын
@@mattsbrute thanks for the update. I suppose that will only last for another year or two as they move all US Forester and Forester hybrid production to Lafayette, Indiana.
@bellyacres7846
@bellyacres7846 Жыл бұрын
interesting stuff - alot goes into your video presentation. thank you after seeing your old cut filter video and this one, i may stick with the fram ultra synthetic XG7317 I had seen it compared with wix and they seem to be the same. very much like your Japanese filters. Ive looked at cheaper fram filters and passed. {not so good} this Ultra one has been great in our little line of Subaru cars, only wix makes the size for the trucks here and oddly its a bit lower cost yet bigger & has the same internals. Ive seen a few other scientific comparisons {yeah I research a bit lol} the particles in the used oil samples are very similar between these I used to use subaru filters, but they proved to be sub par in past comparisons I had done [just for the fun of it] like other "studies" these are just opinions, its a good plan to keep an open mind as you check each theory. sub filters might sometimes [used to] be about the same cost, but the stealerships in a city nearby had their own idea of pricing, oops they were often way over others, So I started ordering. my fram ultras are not what a regular fram filter is.
@alexandram9477
@alexandram9477 Жыл бұрын
great vid! I guess BRZs are outliers? Haven't had any issues getting the black, made in Japan AA170 filters for my 2022 BRZ.
@mushieslushie
@mushieslushie Жыл бұрын
On my 2.5i I have mostly used Bosch 3300 filters. They are cheap and seem decent quality. Nice to know we can get Subaru filters that aren't fram but I have no issues the the Bosch ones.
@KY-vw6iy
@KY-vw6iy Жыл бұрын
Thank you for keeping us informed on Subaru’s trickery!
@jedwin4816
@jedwin4816 Жыл бұрын
AA170s for my WRX are easy to get but if I couldn't get one I'd just use a Mobil 1 filter. They are everywhere and very good quality. US made.
@buddyroeginocchio9105
@buddyroeginocchio9105 Жыл бұрын
Bought a service pack 12 count from NAPA labelled with Wix number 21334 but made in Korea, there were also Hyundai/KIA part numbers on the can. Happens to fit both my 2004 Sonata 2.7 and 2012 Outback 3.6. First time I've ever seen a custom molded rubber seal. The backflow seal is orange silicone.
@mattjohnson550
@mattjohnson550 7 ай бұрын
Wouldn't use it if it says Hyundai/Kia on it 😂😂😂
@ryanhuang8498
@ryanhuang8498 2 ай бұрын
I am using a Japanese Subaru filter on a Kia vehicle.
@mikman7219
@mikman7219 Ай бұрын
I have recently switched my BRZ to Chinese Mann filters from Aliexpress. Mann W811/80. Excellent quality. Probably better than the OEM one.
@thelongs5698
@thelongs5698 Жыл бұрын
I ran the blue filter for 275k miles in my ‘10 OB with no issues.
@brianhilligoss
@brianhilligoss Жыл бұрын
right, so many people loosing sleep over a filter they throw away every 3-7k miles.
@crashbug4343
@crashbug4343 Жыл бұрын
Looks pretty good. Glad they finely figured out a solution to the oil filter problem and stopped using the low quality cheap fram stuff
@jamesdarcy3902
@jamesdarcy3902 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like the Mazda Dealer at $8 a copy sounds reasonable for my 2015 Outback.
@wildmanofthewynooch7028
@wildmanofthewynooch7028 Жыл бұрын
Way better than the blue filter
@MrSubaru1387
@MrSubaru1387 Жыл бұрын
💯💯💯
@shwangfuhr
@shwangfuhr Жыл бұрын
Napa platinum or gold for twenty years, never a problem.
@svgs650r
@svgs650r Жыл бұрын
Is the filter media the same? Maybe take the media out of each filter, stretch it out, measure and compare the total area of each.
@rileypart1
@rileypart1 Жыл бұрын
I don’t know how I feel about the one made in Indonesia. I am gunna stick with the one made in Japan.
@NathanielStauber
@NathanielStauber Жыл бұрын
I would suspect and certainly hope that the Indonesian filters and the Japanese ones are targeting the same specifications and performance, and ideally the same filter media. The construction would have been adjusted for local component availability as well as the machinery the plant has. Not knowing the whole story, the new filters could even be produced by a partner or subcontractor.
@PorkOrb2
@PorkOrb2 Жыл бұрын
Good to know that the filter I’ve been using at my Toyota dealer (The Mazda Filter) was actually made if a decent quality
@Borp56
@Borp56 Жыл бұрын
Very good video as always, hopefully we get the same comparison in September when the EJ filters hit the dealers!
@TheSleepyMechanic0524
@TheSleepyMechanic0524 2 ай бұрын
Just cool to see a black filter (AA20A) to match the 130(BRZ) 170(VA/VB WRX, and 031 (H6). As a simple Subie lube tech, these are much better filters than the old blue ones. One caveat. Our Tokyo Roki filters are made in Indonesia.
@robertknight4672
@robertknight4672 4 ай бұрын
I just got an oil change recently at a Subaru dealer in Massachusetts and when I looked under the hood it had the black filter. It's a 2023 Forester that was made in Japan so when it was new it had the black filter and it only had the blue one for a short period of time.
@dagwood700
@dagwood700 Жыл бұрын
I had an issue with those blue filters. On my 13 Forester, I got the shortblock replaced, and when I picked it up, it had a random ticking at startup. After 3 trips to the dealer, and them even replacing the timing chain assembly and it still not going away, I had the thought it sounded like when you first start and the oil pressure hasn’t built up yet. I had the idea that maybe the oil was draining out of the filter when the engine was off. I bought a Wix and replaced it and immediately the ticking was gone. I have never had any issues with oil filters for my vehicle until they used a blue one at the dealer.
@the_magical_gates232
@the_magical_gates232 11 ай бұрын
I was shocked ! I always go to the dealer for the bleu filter, I always thaught it was good. I guess I was worn! Thanks for making this video and explaining this to me!!! By the way, just picked up a 06 wrx wagon!
@bowlander
@bowlander 11 ай бұрын
I had a napa gold filter leak on my outback. The top was cut about 3-4 degrees from square. Napa gave me a new filter and an extra quart of oil for the trouble. Now I check them for square before installing.
@18_rabbit
@18_rabbit 10 ай бұрын
good to know! (and they're suposedly made by Wix, so ... seems like a LOT of quality issues and supply chain issues these days still now. Autoline says that the supply chain has permanent damage possibly!
@STREETFIGHTER50
@STREETFIGHTER50 Жыл бұрын
My favorite filter currently is the “MicroGard Select” from Oreilly’s Auto Parts. Very solid construction and quality materials! Part # MSL57055 for our Subarus $10.99
@jekern77
@jekern77 Жыл бұрын
interesting...57055 is the WIX number for our cars. So I would guess that the Microgard must be made by WIX.
@slayer66thfc
@slayer66thfc Жыл бұрын
​@@jekern77yes it is! So their fine to use
@STREETFIGHTER50
@STREETFIGHTER50 9 ай бұрын
Yes I’ve seen a ton of oil filters dissected and this MicroGard Select is just awesome all around for the price! I’m not sure if it’s made by Wix. Others have said it’s made by Premium Guard 🤷🏻 All I know is it’s made in Vietnam and like the build quality, materials used, & price.
@human1513
@human1513 11 ай бұрын
As soon as you mentioned FRAM = oh oh No! Good video and review. Not surprised that the Japanese filter appears to be better.
@TucsonDude
@TucsonDude 9 ай бұрын
I have been using the BRZ oil filters in my 2.5L Crosstrek. They're readily available at all dealerships, Japanese made, have more surface area, twice the core openings and only $7 apiece.
@user-mb1iz9rb9f
@user-mb1iz9rb9f 27 күн бұрын
I always use WIX/NAPA filters. they are the best.
@styledliving
@styledliving Жыл бұрын
you need to take out the filter media and actually calculate the area (square footage) to properly determine filtration effectiveness. in a real word scenario the bypass valve should never be used in the first place since you should be changing out the oil filter at regular OCIs that are well before the filter media became so clogged that the filter bypass valve would need to be used. Plus, thinner “flimsier” bypass valve means easier actuation of the valve in case of blockages.
@426envy
@426envy Жыл бұрын
I’ve been using Baldwin filters in my cars since ‘05 with no problems.
@patriciogalleguillosarredo4976
@patriciogalleguillosarredo4976 Жыл бұрын
Excelente información, very good information, congratulations 🇨🇱
@SkaBob
@SkaBob Жыл бұрын
We usually put on Wix or Wix XP, at least we know who makes them and the quality won't drop whenever subaru switches suppliers.
@natefrm860
@natefrm860 Жыл бұрын
Honestly, if I don’t have a Nissan a filter for my Infiniti, I literally will use either a Honda filter or a Subaru filter. They all work and fit the same car and it’s fucking amazing. 😂😂
@andrewvisiko5250
@andrewvisiko5250 Жыл бұрын
Walmart super tech filters! As long as you change the oil like you should. Then they work fine.
@jere4913
@jere4913 Жыл бұрын
Freaking awesome we have better quality filters in the NA market now. I won't be cringing anymore buying short term substitutes.
@suspicionofdeceit
@suspicionofdeceit Жыл бұрын
I wonder if there was already a factory in Indonesia and it’s just under contract?
@MrSubaru1387
@MrSubaru1387 Жыл бұрын
Likely.
@mark8684
@mark8684 8 ай бұрын
Mr Subaru - How about a follow up on these new AA20A Indonesian filters? Have you installed any on customer’s vehicles? There are numerous reports from users and dealers about oil leaking around the base!
@carnaubawax9405
@carnaubawax9405 7 ай бұрын
There is a lot of 'talk' about this on the internet. Any observations from Mr. Subaru and/or other knowledgeable people would be welcome.
@watchingdanny
@watchingdanny Жыл бұрын
Only the Japanese ones should be black. It's a little deceptive to make these Indonesian ones in black as well. It's like an endorsed knock off. I'll stick with the Mazda filters. Thank you for that video long ago and this one.
@infernayee
@infernayee 11 ай бұрын
Subaru started manufacturing the ones in Japan for the EJs.
@Trials-and-Tribulations
@Trials-and-Tribulations 10 күн бұрын
Totally appreciate your knowledge ive been watching your channel off & on. Not owning one. Recently I pickedup on 2006 imperza 2.5i luv the seating and start also drive, has ralley race vibe aka ken block others. Handles curves great. Question for my old Ej high miles is it Safe to use K&N or Mobil 1. As alternative to newer Oem you mentioned. I was about to go autozone or Walmart buy that Blue can of Death you mentioned. I think my Imperza has that blue can from Previous owner. Believe has to local ralley dirt events. More on that later when make a video.
@tonyl3461
@tonyl3461 10 ай бұрын
I just bought 3 of them at my dealership in Sacramento. It was a buy three and get one free - came home with 4 of them. Be careful though as the filters are cheaper if you buy them on-line and then pick them up at the dealership. If you buy them at the dealership they may or may not give you the on-line price.
@Lolteej
@Lolteej Жыл бұрын
I just use k&n on my legacy 2.5i it’s the same as wife’s CRV. Never had a problem nor a shortage lol
@PedroFTeixeira
@PedroFTeixeira Жыл бұрын
Everytime I see a video on oil filters I always reply this: I've been using for 10 years Mann Filters, with alot of trackdays and I've never had issues with the engine.
@petesjk
@petesjk 8 ай бұрын
I’m a little puzzled as to why Subaru feels the need to provide cost conscious filters to the US market, when Toyota doesn’t seem so concerned. The new filter does seem to be an improvement, though.
@williambrucematthews
@williambrucematthews 10 ай бұрын
I just pickedup my Forester from a standard break repair today. Talking with them I ask if they are now useing the new black oil filter. She told me yes BUT they are having issues with them leaking between the base and the can now and then. "The tecks have learned to check them all now" Oct. 20 2023
@michaelbutler9528
@michaelbutler9528 Жыл бұрын
I just bought a case of WIX XP's................RATS
@stevenebesni2432
@stevenebesni2432 Жыл бұрын
Interesting, I purchased an OE oil filter for my 08 OB yesterday from the local dealer and they gave me a US made blue filter. I wonder if they found an old case of them laying around since the last one they gave me was the unbranded blue filter. Also I am starting to think Japanese companies are outsourcing to Indonesia. I bought a few NGK plugs ( which have always been Japanese made) for my lawn equipment last season and they were all made in Indonesia.
@TassieLorenzo
@TassieLorenzo Жыл бұрын
All of the ASEAN countries have a free trade agreement (Thailand, Malaysia, Indonesia etc). There are huge taxes (100%) on cars that are fully imported from Japan, so local assembly is essential. Where Toyota and Honda have their factories (and respectively Denso factories or engine factories making parts) in Thailand, Subaru's assembly factory is in Malaysia with parts and testing from Indonesia.
@gohan2355
@gohan2355 Жыл бұрын
You need to test the indonesian filter really by running it in a car
@MrSubaru1387
@MrSubaru1387 Жыл бұрын
I will. They just got to the dealer Monday. Hard to test them for 5,000 miles in 3 days. Lol
@jamesbruno5896
@jamesbruno5896 Жыл бұрын
Thank you as always!
@MrSubaru1387
@MrSubaru1387 Жыл бұрын
My pleasure!
@fn1633
@fn1633 Жыл бұрын
Good oil good filters regular regimented oil changes = Good recipe :) … On a very small note construction of the new filter very similar to Mahle OC707 ; Here is to fun safe driving !
@brianmontgomery2779
@brianmontgomery2779 Жыл бұрын
My shop uses Six Star filters which are supposedly private label versions of the Tokyo Roki’s
@BusterKitten
@BusterKitten Жыл бұрын
Never had a problem getting Purolator filters for our Outbacks, Foresters and Crosstrek from years 2917 to 2023. My personal pick over any other brand filters.
@MurderSTi
@MurderSTi 11 ай бұрын
PL14460 is the go to for an EJ257. Especially higher power applications.
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