I Built a New Music Production Computer!

[@ZachWirchak]

What are you using as a music production rig?

[@ZachWirchak]

@R4M_845 Nice! Now that prices have come down, it's not as painful to buy a power GPU to game on!

[@goport]

I just upgraded from an AM4 build to AM5: CPU: 7950X Mobo: Asus Tuf Gaming X670e-Plus RAM: Corsair 64GB DDR5 4800MHz, PSU: Deepcool DQ750 Modular M.2: 2 x 2 TB Corsair Gen4 , 2 x 1 TB (Samsung 970 and Adata) SSD: 2 x1 TB kingston. GPU: RTX 2060 6GB Cooler and Case: Arctic Freezer II 360, NZXT H7 Flow. Display: Philips 499P9 32:9 49" I mainly run cubase

[@swath8733]

cpu: ryzen 5 3600 6 core, overclocked to 4.2ghz cooler: stock amd heatsync motherboard: asus rog strix b450f ram: corsair vengeance lpv 16gb x 2 storage: wd blue 1 tb m.2 ssd, samsung 2tb 2.5" ssd, 2tb seagate barricude hard drive gpu: zotac twin fan 6gb gtx 1660 case: nzxt h10 atx psu: cougar vte 600 w bronze costed me about $900 in july 2020

[@gordon3707]

Question for you... Are you able to record & produce on a solid 96Khz with this build?

[@ZachWirchak]

@@gordon3707 Yes! I pretty much only record at 96k/24bit.

[@RealGingerTea]

I'm an audio and PC guy working in the industry. My only recommended upgrades to this would be a more airflow focused case, which will allow for more air with lower fan speeds (and noise). Noctua or BeQuiet fans (preferably 4pin). Motherboard features are user specific, but a lot of audio people will want thunderbolt and or 2.5G networking for that NAS, maybe USB-C or built in WiFi/Bluetooth. SATA is fine for Audio, but if you're sampling, or using Kontakt etc you wont yet see a benefit from NVMe's, but project loading time will be reduced. DDR5 is the biggest upgrade for Audio production. CPU wise, you want the most P cores, and hyperthreading enabled or disabled depending on plugins and workload. Overall, this is the best time ever to built an Audio production PC.

[@ZachWirchak]

That is solid advice/tips! My initial plan was to upgrade the fans, but after spending time a lot with the machine the socket and core temps are well within the normal operating range even when I'm running a big 100+ track project. The location of the tower also cuts down on any fan noise (which is pretty minimal) too. I know it only helps a tiny bit, but I also work in a room that never sees temps over 75 degrees even in 100 degree weather outside. I do a lot of work with samples and Kontakt every day and the NVMe's have been a noticeable upgrade from my previous SSDs that I ran the OS, plugins, software, ect from. My NAS is really just for my archival work. And I recently hard wired my entire setup so now backing up to the NAS is lightning fast which has been a great upgrade. DDR5 I was very torn about... I read and watched benchmark video that it wasn't making a large difference in audio production yet and the prices (at the time of building) where much higher than DDR4. I'm usually someone who likes to future proof my investments, but I also wanted to keep the build under/around $1200. So I stuck with DDR4 and I'm hoping I won't regret it as time marches on... but if I do, it's an excuse to build another machine!

[@whatmusiciwant]

I have a Be Quiet! Pure Base 500. Completely insulated case, Thermaltake Peerless Assassin on my Ryzen 9 5900x, one fan on the back, one on the front and I have a "quiet" setting for FanControl where my fans barely run. Never have an issue with heat, I run all fans at around 20% with a curve starting at 60c. It's ultra "Mac" type quiet. If you get the right processor and pay attention to TDP you can build a really quiet, really fast, audio production computer. My CPU runs with Cubase open and working at about 50c, full fan stop on my GPU runs at around 30-40c (RX6600). I have watched numerous benchmarks on DDR4 vs DDR5 (different MT/s), and see little benefit, be interested in where you think the performance boost is and why? Literally everything that I have ever read, researched and benchmarks I have watched, multithreading is secondary in an audio-workstation (most of the time). The thing you really want is single-thread performance, which Intel usually wins over AMD. NVMe's vs SATA: Massive difference, mainly because one is sending data through a cable, and the other is connected directly to the PCI-E of the motherboard. And, depending on your motherboard you will get even more performance, in the case of my X570 Unify I have extremely fast bus speeds and Gen4 NVMe architecture giving my 7500 MB/s read speeds.

[@therealbdbeatz]

Nice! Thanks for the video, I'm currently in the process of building a new production computer also. I feel your pain when you mentioned your previous setup. I'm still using a old computer and definitely looking forward to finally getting to work on bigger/complex projects.

[@ZachWirchak]

Nice! Exciting times to get a new rig built. Once I sat back and thought about how many corners I was cutting when songwriting and creating, it HAD to get a new computer. In the last year I've had 4 large, important projects that all had over 100 tracks with automation, inserts, etc. and on those it's been a struggle. But not anymore!!! I've opened those projects on the new machine and it's not being push at all.

[@jjcruz17]

just make sure you keep the pc off the floor, esp carpet. it'll pull dust in and can dusty pretty quick. nice build!

[@ZachWirchak]

@@jjcruz17 thank you! I've got it slightly elevated off the floor to help keep it directly off the carpet.

[@acdms]

Hi, can you tell me how many lines of kantakt libraries and synthesizers can fit in one project?

[@ZachWirchak]

@@acdms i will have up to 20 or 30 at times and it's not problem for the machine.

[@acdms]

​@@ZachWirchak thanks for the answer. my pc is i5 9400 32gb ram, i have 40-50 libraries sometimes, i wonder if 13700k 64gb ram can handle 100, 120 or maybe 150 tracks.that's why i want to upgrade too

[@ottomanbeatsofficial]

im in the process of doing the same thing. How is that gpu for editing videos? my current build is very laggy in dacvinchi resolve while scrubbing the time line.

[@ZachWirchak]

It does well! These days i most just edit these KZbin videos, so my effects aren't pushing the GPU hard on export. But when it does, it handles it well enough. Cuda core wise it's getting older for sure, but for a "budget" gpunfor editing, I'd recommend it. But I cannot say how well Resolve will work with it. I use Premiere Pro.

[@whataniceday]

The problem with first MOBO could be that it did not support your CPU right OTB and needed BIOS update prior to use it. But you was not able to update BIOS without boot, so no solution except new mobo

[@ZachWirchak]

Exactly. The new MOBO needed a BIOS flash too, but it was easy to do with the diagnostic LED light on the MOBO. And in the end I got a better MOBO so I was all good sending the first one back!

[@Juvson0s]

Hi, just a couple tips, please put the pc on something hard, if you leave it on carpet you will suffocate the power supply. And for the cooling, move the fan from the top to the front of the case. Apart from that great video. Keep doing what you're doing

[@ZachWirchak]

Thank you! I definitely want to find something to put it on that can double as storage. Right now I'm using that end table to put my second monitor on. My fan situation will probably change sometime soon... the ones that came with the case are a tad too loud.

[@busywl69]

Good build. Top notch in fact. Smart going with the MSI MB as GIgabyte, my long time favorite, has dropped in quality a great deal. I have 4 m.2's in my rig, with the last one being via a PCIe card. Increidbly stable, like all my PC builds have been. 64gb of G-Skill RAM is the way. I have a $40 gtx 970 running 3 monitors. Your going to be with this build for at least 5 years.

[@ZachWirchak]

Yeah, I'm incredibly happy with it. It's been perfect so far and I run it hard everyday for hours on end. It's been able to handle ever large project I've thrown at it.

[@MonoGiadating]

Multitracking requires a good cpu.

[@KreativeDevices]

Like the 13900H in our G16MKII

[@jackstone4825]

Congrats man! So happy for you! It's a beast! May you create masterpieces using your new rig and may it serve you a long long time to come! 😊

[@ZachWirchak]

Thank you! So far I am super happy with it! I can't wait to really throw a lot at it over the years!

[@richardlynneweisgerber2552]

One thing to watch for. M.2 slots may be sharing PCIe Lanes with something else, so choices must be configured in. Gigabyte X570 Aorus Master (Rev. 1.2) does share SSD slot M.2 the third with SATA 4 & 5, so it cannot be used for NVMe, but works great with the SSD in there a SATA, leaving SATA 4 & 5 available. Cramming a 4x SSD RAID card will definitely need to bifurcate with the 16x graphics card, so 8x & 8x there. PCIe Lanes is Rocket Science

[@rangersmith4652]

That will be a great build for audio, but the GPU might be a bit weak for video editing, especially if you use a lot of effects. It's September 2024 as I comment, so I hope your 13700K hasn't been having any stability issues. Mine hasn't, but I haven't been using it, waiting to see how the new microcode works out. The machine I'm planning to use for music has a Ryzen 5600X, 2070 Super, 32GB of RAM, a 1TB NVMe system drive and a 2TB SATA SSD. I built this system as a backup gaming machine, but it got superseded in that role, so it's available. Should be fine for the dozen or so tracks and very limited effects with which I'll be working.

[@ZachWirchak]

So far it's been perfect in every way! I don't ever hold back when working on the size of project and the plugins/inserts I use. As for video editing that old 1660 holds it's own pretty well. Most of my effects are color correction and basic transition based. If I start throwing some really heavy GPU intensive stuff, it can start to hiccup a little. But for me it handles 4K edits and effects well... but part of me wants it to go out so I have an excuse to buy something new in the Nvidia 40 Series.

[@warwalker]

Congrats on the new rig, it sounds like a beauty - I am currently researching a build for myself and I've been really wondering about how noisy some of the builds I have come across are. I do record from time to time in the same room where all my gear is, things like an acoustic guitar miked up with a condenser or two, sometimes even a vocal, and I'm wondering if your experience has been that you could do things like that without worrying about hearing your rig whirring away in the background. Care to share your thoughts? Thanks in advance...

[@ZachWirchak]

Hello! My build does create a little noise, but the times I've recorded live in the room (acoustic guitar and vocals), any fan noise is not picked up at all. I also have the stock fans from my case manufacture, so if I wanted to I could always replace the fans for some quieter ones. As I'm sitting here typing this, the ambient noises from my house creates as much or more noise than my tower does.

[@warwalker]

Fantastic, that is kind of what i was hoping you'd say. My house/room is quite noisy as it is (just like yours); i'm next to the furnace room and ductwork etc is an excellent acoustic carrier/amplifier. Thanks for the reply, I appreciate it, and best of luck on your projects!

[@Raiv1980]

Always a heart stopper when you turn a new build on for the first time. Congrats on your new build, I literally just finished installing two Evo 870 1Tbs, graphics card and RAM in my rig this weekend. So now I run an i9-9900k, 3060ti, 64GBs DDR4, 1TB SSD for OS, DAWs, and Plugins, 1 TB SSD for prj files, samples, etc., 1TB SSD for general purpose PC use, 2TB WD Black HDD. 2 external 5TB HDDs one for this PC and one for the MAC for backup. Was watching your video to see if there were any tips and advice for a fresh build and set up for music and audio production, before I started to install all the software, plugins, etc..

[@ZachWirchak]

Nice build! That sounds like a great machine for all things creative! As for setting up on a new build, I had most everything dialed in on my last build. In my opinion, the nice thing about how downloads and plugin managers work, is they always put the proper files in the right spots. So all of that was nearly automatic on my end. The biggest thing I've changed since this build is my buffer size when working in the project. I use to bounce between 256 - 1024 depending on the size and CPU load, now it's been at 192 no matter the size of the project.

[@hulkislistening]

That's valhalla room reverb is plugin issue.. I really got it on few projects rest it was alright.

[@jasonbrakefield]

That’s a beast! Well done. I just recently moved from PC to Mac. I got a M2 Pro Mac Mini and I’m absolutely loving it. So powerful.

[@ZachWirchak]

That is awesome! I've heard great things about the M2's. And the price on those Mini's are actually not too bad either!

[@commonsense5188]

What was your PC build before moving over to Mac? It's about time to upgrade my pc and I'm hopping back and forth between building a new PC or going with a Mac Mini M2 Pro.

[@jasonbrakefield]

@@commonsense5188 My PC build was just an older refurbished Dell. It had an i7 processor and I had upgraded the RAM to 32gb and added a 2TB hard drive. It was a good workhorse for a few years but I am enjoying the new Mac much more.

[@Alleluia-alleluia]

Compared the prices to build the systems for music. Apple is more expensive

[@zeus1117]

The main issue is not really the price. Is when something goes wrong. You have no chance to replace any internal component! @@Alleluia-alleluia

[@mikeb792]

8:02 Lmao... Yep, we see what's going on behind you right now lol Seriously though, great video. Very helpful.

[@HugoMurillo-nr7ir]

I was given an hp laptop that has a broken screen and hdd that is failing could hear the disk grinding at times. I’m trying to start a beginner budget studio for myself. This is older video don’t know if you will reply. It has a 7gen intel i5 7200u processor a 8 gig ram with an extra slot to add another ram. I have a monitor already to plug it in. Was wondering if this is a good processor for music production just going to use it for guitar and bass and a drum software. Wanted to upgrade the failing hdd to a ssd and possibly add another 8 gig ram to the extra slot. Question I’m asking is this broken lab top with a 7gen i5 worth fixing to start my music studio

[@ZachWirchak]

@@HugoMurillo-nr7ir i would say it would help a great starting point for getting a beginners studio going! If you add an ssd and an extra 8 gigs of ram, you'll be inba good spot. I will say a lot has to do with the plug ins and the way you setup a project with inserts, sends and returns and fx channels. But i worked on similar computers to what you'll have and I did big projects for years on it. (I7 3700 w/ 16 gigs and an ssd)

[@HugoMurillo-nr7ir]

Thank you been playing guitar and bass for about 15 years slowly getting myself into this digital world of vst and really like to get back into writing my own music.

[@ZachWirchak]

@HugoMurillo-nr7ir its always a blast being able to record and listen back to ideas. And then eventually turning them into songs. I'm also always recording when I'm jamming or practicing my instruments.

[@HugoMurillo-nr7ir]

Sounds good I’m planning on doing that. Really would like to get a new pc but they are pricy and money is real tight. Found this damage laptop going to be my next project to rebuild was doing some research and found your videos which was pretty helpful especially if I get more serious in it and future decide to build a whole pc

[@ZachWirchak]

@HugoMurillo-nr7ir excellent! Good luck to you! I do have other videos on some ways to streamline setting up projects so the PC runs better.

[@JMXCzw]

Glad to hear the build went well. I'm curious about how intense your video production is. I am looking to build a PC for both video (weddings) and audio. Currently running on an i5 8400 6-core CPU. It is very painful at times. The other issue is deciding between the Intel 12th gen and Ryzen 5000 series.

[@RazoBeckett.]

go with 12th gen if you are thinking of latest windows 11 because the windows process scheduler works great with it, it will provide best performance, 12th gen is also so power efficient because P core and E core terminology so thing is that , and about R5000 series if you are not gonna do any kind of single threaded task like gaming which requires more single thread power then Going with R5000 series can be good choice considering productivity and having no gpu , intel's iGPU kinda sucks so there is that

[@JMXCzw]

@@RazoBeckett. Thanks Razo. With the price drops on the 12th gen it seems ideal to just go for intel with ddr5. I heard intel igpu is pretty good for video editing. I have a gtx 1070 which I can eventually upgrade. I will have to choose between a r9 5900x or i7 12700k. but according to what you said I am strongly leaning towards the i7.

[@RazoBeckett.]

@@JMXCzw if you are buying the Intel one with the 'k' then go with it , it's nice choice ,,, best of luck for building yours. 🙂

[@JMXCzw]

@@RazoBeckett. Thanks. I appreciate it.

[@JamieR]

I'm a bit late, but 100% go intel. Just be sure to do proper research on the parts and the DAW you use. There can be certain combos that play better than others. Hope you figured it out! 😊

[@guilladogui8259]

A air cooler for a 13700k I don’t think is the best option?

[@ZachWirchak]

So far it's been solid. The temps stay low even when under pretty heavy load when working on large projects.

[@tcruz1996]

i am a pro tools user and for my computer build i am running an AMD Ryzen 9 7950x ( that hangs around 5.30 gHz base ), an Asus Tuf 3080 OC edition, trident z 64 GB ddr5 6000 Mt/s, a gigabyte x670e aorus master mother board with two gen 5 2 TB m.2 Nvme and a pcie thunderbolt card. to cool my cpu i am also using an ice giant pro siphon elite and 6 noctual fans with argb fan frames by airgoo.

[@ZachWirchak]

That sounds like a GREAT build! I bet it handles most anything you throw at it.

[@MOAB-UT]

I want to build using 9 7900. What MOBO can you recommend? Did AMD fix sinkhole major security issue with the Ryzen chips?

[@tcruz1996]

@@MOAB-UT As of to my knowledge right now the sink close issues has already been patched. all you need to do is make sure your bios is up to date. there on tones of great options. it all depends on what your budget is and what form factor that you are building in. ATX Budget Friendly High End Gigabyte B650 Eagle AX gigabyte x8070e Aorus Master m-ATX Gigabyte b650M Asus Tuf b650M Aorus elite AX Mini-ITX ASRock B650I lighting ASUS ROG Strix B650E

[@MOAB-UT]

@@tcruz1996 Thanks. I heard issues with most those boards though. I want full ATX. Aorus M shares SSD so I can't use NVMe which I do want to. ASUS, I heard stay away from. I think I heard MSI fixed Sinkhole, but also, stay away. Many complaints in the boards about the ASRock. I do need Thunderbolt. Are there any higher end boards that you can recommend. Need great audio Codex too since this is for audio recording multitrack. I will use the cool running 9 7900 cpu. I'm old and don't plan to game- much.

[@NeverOctober_]

Will this work good for ProTools 2024.10?

[@ZachWirchak]

@@NeverOctober_ i just did a quick google to double check the requirements for that version of Pro Tool and it should totally work. I'm not a Pro Tools guy, but I'd be confident in it.

[@adamsunderland0823]

Bro. I need help. Do I need a 16 core CPU? My computer is from 2013. It says it has 12 compute cores. Idek what that means?

[@ZachWirchak]

12 core should be plenty good enough. Which CPU do you have? My last machine which served me very well for a long time only had 4 core and 8 threads. (the i7 6770)

[@AntmanFelix]

Did you include the updated Motherboard that you eventually went with? Thanks!

[@PascalVermeulen-f6x]

Yep see video info. He dropped the Adrush B668M and used a MSI Z690 Motherboard instead. Was zooming in on that as well as during reading i saw many had problems with BIOS not being ready for gen 13. Am preparing a new build as well. Current gear Elitebook 8460p, If i recall well. Intel Core i5-2520M CPU @ 2.50GHz 2.50 GHz, with 16 GB ram. Should be ancient as my daw crashes already with 8 tracks of VSTi. As strong as my old core2duo of before i bought that referbished laptop think 8 years back. When running my sampler and lightweight VSTi then i can do 16 tracks or so. Used to run most on hardware as ATARI starter, heck still work on Logic 5.3 PC, on win 10. But after mostly doing mixes only last years, and reaching 51th age in december, Its about time for a new workhorse. I just want to be able to use the DSP56300Emu-1.2.25 VSTi. The Virus emulator. On my current rig i only hear crackles when playing it. With buffer downgraded to the bottom i get some sound out of it, but impossible to use that instrument. So it amazes me that an i7 could run 100 tracks. Makes me fear that what i plan on building probably be overkill, lol. I will contact a hackintosh builder and ask him to make my new machine a Mac AND PC in one. Then i can give the new Logic a proper try instead of running it as virtual machine on my weak old laptop. Soon to build Dream-Build. Core i9-13900K, 3,0 GHz (5,8 GHz Turbo Boost) socket 1700 processor ASUS PRIME H770-PLUS D4 socket 1700 motherboard Noctua NH-D15 chromax.black cpu-cooler G.Skill 128 GB DDR4-3600 Quad-Kit RAM SAMSUNG 990 PRO, 2 TB SSD [Windows M2 fastest 7400MB/s] Lexar NM790 4 TB SSD {Hackintosh & Figure 2 TB for soundbanks} M2 of 7000MB/s Seagate Exos X20 20 TB [Store disk] [7200 HDD] be quiet! PURE Base 500 FX midi tower {Case} be quiet! Light Wings PWM 140 mm high-speed case fan [Top van Extra] Was about 2000 Euro last time i checked, but 17 October 14900K gets released, so waiting till that gets released. then the CPU price should go down a bit. So plan on then building it, or heck the hackintosh maker may have a 13th gen as 2nd hand cos one of his customers wants the 14th gen. Then i just get that one and possibly get it hackintoshed for the 2000 only. Taking air cooling cos i expect to be using the new build for at least 10 years. And i figure water hoses probably dry out within those 10 years, and then the system breaks. I do not do maintenance to my rigs, never used defragment even on my old gear. SO then i guess air cooling be most durable. And am no longer recording rappers or singers, so my computer may make some noise, as studio recorder instead of life recording. Still even in doubt over the motherboard, as i'm not sure if buying a DDR5 board be wiser then a DDR4 board. Figure the 128 GB DDR4 must be enough. But then i also know which ram to buy, as then i know the read speed of the mobo. If the mobo can only run ram at 2400 then it be silly to buy 3600 speed ram, as then the mobo wont be able to use that speeds and then i'd be wasting money. BUT it's remarkable that its possible to get the parts for under 2000. So makes sense to me to do it well if that affordable. So I try to get a mobo with 4 connections to M2 drives, so i can later put 2 more 8 TB drives in as future update, for the endlessly growing sound banks. SO like you the failing mobo was also on my mind. Figure i just spend the 250 to let the seller build it for me, then i do not have the worries of bios updates or configuration of ram in the software, but just get it running well. Bit of a pitty as i was kinda looking forward to finally build one myself. But all the review complaints about mobos not having been updated in the bios and not working kinda took the adventure away. As i do not want to invest, for me at least, such a huge amount and end up with gear thats not even working cos of a damn bios update. Cracking a demo i can see as fun, but i hate bios and finetuning of settings. So then rather pay for the build and know it got done well, and be hassle free.

[@diostaylow]

Did u happen to own a slate trigger 2 on your old pc? And make it transfer on the new one without purchasing another trigger2?

[@ZachWirchak]

I did not have in on my old computer. Let me guess, do they make it hard to move the license to a new computer?

[@diostaylow]

@@ZachWirchak i think they only have one license per pc, which is a bummer cause i’m thinking of building a pc anytime soon ..

[@gamerturniton3081]

do you have any link to your music?

[@ZachWirchak]

open.spotify.com/artist/0psPeTNr93RCDslpHVYybN?si=c9WtaK5YQRGnLHsKbc0CYQ

[@ZachWirchak]

If you look up my name on any platform, my profile should pop up!

[@ErandoBeatz]

looks great bro, im thinking of doing the same I have a 7700k its still pretty good for me right now because i dont do any video editing

[@ZachWirchak]

I cannot recommend it enough! I also kept my eye on prices and pulled the trigger when the 13700k dropped in price to about $415. I will say, I work on large projects (100+ tracks) with lots of plugins... so the 13700k could be overkill for a lot of people. BUT knowing the sky is the limit right now for the production side of things, is a great feeling.

[@ErandoBeatz]

@@ZachWirchak oh ok yeah i dont have projects that big but some vsts do use way too much power on certain presets of sound i got it back in 2018 so i think im going to wait until 14700k drops theyre saying its going to be a good year to upgrade when that drops

[@SAZIZMUSIC]

Motherboard: Gigabyte B550 Aorus Elite AX Ver 1.0 RAM: Gskill Ripjaws (8 x2 ) = 16 GB 3200 Mhz in dual channel mode Processor: Ryzen 7 3700x SSD: 500 GB Western Digital NVME M.2 2280 Hard disc drive: 1 TB SATA Graphix: NVIDIA 1050 Ti I face lag and CPU overloading problem even if i use 20 25 tracks in FL Studio with lots of plugins (5 to 6) in each channel. And I can't run more than 5 to 6 Kontakt instruments at the same time. I face lag. All my Kontakt instruments are in My HDD which i have recently known to be a huge mistake. I am now planning to get a 1 TB ssd and transfer all the kontakt instruments on that and Also may be 2 16 GB RAM stick so totaling at 48 GB of RAM. Do you have any advice for me ?

[@zapa2foreign]

More RAM’s 32 or even 64 if you can and try to get some that run at high speeds and slow latency, besides that 1TB SSD NVme would be fye, maybe the CPU aswell

[@PRTYANMLZ]

Curious how much the whole cost was? I watched most of this video and i couldn’t find where you said what the ticket was $ ?

[@ZachWirchak]

It came to about $1200 not counting the GPU I had sitting around.

[@scotty]

So cool, congratulations

[@JohnnyPGoode]

good vid. Im using a hp omen laptop with seperate nvdia card built in, 18i20 litepiped into a maudio 2626, CAKEWALK, OBS, tons of plugins. I do drumtracks. Im very surprised that it works like it does for a budget build. I do want to put one together like you. The big key is to know what your doing. I use Native instruments kontact W studio drummer, and slate ssd5, Playing Parts through a roland spd30 with pads. Im really surprised with the articulation of the sounds. Peace

[@EarnestLee711]

Ok so I’m buying an Ibuypower, but I’m looking for pc parts that’ll make the pc run smoother and faster because I’m going to make music and do gaming aswell. Also I’m buying an Apollo twin for my interface which requires thunderbolt. How should I build this pc? What parts should I buy?

[@bezimiennypan306]

Nice video, good to watch after hard day

[@ZachWirchak]

Ahhh, thank you! Hope it helped smooth out a hard day.

[@chukutribe]

How’s the i7? Any regrets? I’m thinking of getting that or an i9.

[@ZachWirchak]

I released a new video a couple weeks ago sharing some performance samples, you should check it out! But in the mean time, a short answer is no... zero regrets. It's been amazing so far!

[@chukutribe]

@@ZachWirchak I watched it I forgot you did 😂 I meant to comment on your latest video update. Thanks for the response 🙏

[@ZachWirchak]

@@chukutribe thanks for watching!

[@Aggressive_Splooge]

I have that mobo and it's been great. You literally just needed to update the BIOS.

[@meck10101]

Great build! I bought the same cpu for my build 👍🏻 I’ve heard that some people had problems with Cubase handling processors with more than 12 cores and stuff regarding ASIO Guard, is that true and would you recommend turning ASIO Guard on or off

[@ZachWirchak]

Interesting! So far the CPU/Cubase hasn't given me any problems. I also haven't messed with any of the "in software" performance setting like I had before on my older i7. Right now I'm running at 192 buffer size and my latency is at 2ms or 3ms and its perfect. This CPU, SSD(s) and ram combo loads up projects soooooo fast no matter the size. I'd say it loads them 5x faster.

[@meck10101]

@@ZachWirchak I’m so happy to hear that, I built mine with DDR5 which in theory makes a tiny bit faster than DDR4. And with tracks, how many can you run without any problems Audio and VST Instruments?

[@ZachWirchak]

@Beto Blanco so far the largest project I've had open was 115 tracks, 30 mins long with 1-3 inserts on each track and A TON of automation throughout. I think the CPU performance would spike at 50% and would hover around 30%. I think I had that at 256 or 512 buffer size, can't remember. That same project on my old machine was at 95%+ CPU usage and I had to run it at 1000+ buffer.... and it still struggled.

[@mikeillgaming4224]

​@@meck10101I'm building my new PC for Cubase 12 and I'm avoiding the gen 12 CPU .. Cubase has said it themselves that gen 12 is causing issues.

[@photorealm]

I have an old 4 core 4.2 ghz with 8 meg of ram that works excellent except on midi latency when there the project gets bigger. From what I have read single core clock speed is likely the culprit, so I will be making a box with and i9-12900K at 5.2 ghz + 32 gigs of DDR4 memory and crossing my fingers. I did set my cache low but still have the latency. Has anyone used that i9-12900K chip and liked or hated it for DAW use?

[@SPARTAN_78]

how's the noise in this nzxt h510 case. should i go for this case ? is this case silent for recording vocals?

[@darkpolution468]

Hey man i just wanted to know how your power effiency is with this cpu, i just can decide between the 7800x3d and i7 13700k

[@platterjockey]

In light of the motherboard manufacturers overclocking CPUs regardless of if you want it or not, it's best to do a BIOS update pronto. Protect your CPU!

[@Anton-Hadar]

Awesome, I have that case, all tho I have DDR4 generation components. Its cheaper for me to upgrade. I will how ever installl one of those CPU fans you've got there! :D awesome video

[@Anton-Hadar]

64Gb ram was a necessity

[@larryrichards6099]

I notice that sound cards are now generally not used, even for sound production pc's.

[@zeus1117]

Audio interface is still necessary. This guy has plenty HW outside of the PC....You should never even try to use the motherboard integrated audio chip! That is crackle fest and not at all for professional use! Unlike Apple's integrated audio chips those are quite good recently.

[@saricubra2867]

​​@@zeus1117If you buy a high end motherboard, the audio is good, i have a DT770 Pro (32ohm) plugged to the motherboard it sounds crystal clear Obviously for recording using the motherboard is a bad idea.

[@odmusicman]

Wow, I upgraded all my computer gear and have the exact, and I mean exact same setup, processor, ram, ssd, etc. That 13700K really rocks. I had the 10700F prior and the difference is stunning.

[@ZachWirchak]

Excellent! So happy your machine is kick butt! I've been using my heavily, maybe 60 hours a week, and it hasn't skipped a beat and has been able to handle everything I've thrown at it!

[@rakeshmukhi2571]

Hey Zach nice pc ❤️.....but I want to recommend you that i7 13700K produces alot of heat..you should go for Noctua nhd-15 (this is a little bit pricey but worth the performance ) or you can go for Deepcool Ak620 ( best bang for buck cooler out there ) this two can easily handle your i7......love from India 🇮🇳❤️

[@ZachWirchak]

Thank you for the comment! I've heard this i7 runs hot. I've been monitoring the temps with different work loads and it's been good so far with the Noctua NH-U12S. When I'm working on a large Cubase project or editing some labor intensive 4K videos, the CPU core temp hovers around 48 degrees Celsius (118 Fahrenheit). But I've yet to have a project that pushes the CPU to over 50% workload and keeps it there. So I'm sure it'll get hotter once I have projects that will actually push it.

[@whataniceday]

You can undervolt 13700k a bit to limit it power consumption and heat while maintain the performance as it was

[@jmdyt3626]

I’m really considering this because as much as an iMac is great for music I also want to be able to do more stuff like play games and for me 1.5k at least to be able to just do music isn’t worth it to me I’d rather spend 1.5k and be able to do everything I want

[@ZachWirchak]

Totally. I'm not a "Mac Hater", but dollar for dollar you can do so much more with PC IMO.

[@zeus1117]

That Motherboard with B660 chipset does NOT support 13th gen CPUs! Only with recent BIOS update...

[@whataniceday]

What computer did you have before?

[@ZachWirchak]

On my music recording rig, I was running a i7 6700 w/ 32gb 2133mhz, 256 ssd, 1TB hdd, 650w PSU and a nvidia quadro m2000. My video editing was a i7 6700, 64gb 2133mhz, 1660gtx, 650w PSU and a 1TB ssd.

[@whataniceday]

@@ZachWirchak i7 6700k is 4 Core 7-8 years old CPU, much lower clocks. 150-200% boost from 13700k is welcome

[@hwreviewers]

Hi, about music production i think your build should be ok if there is a limited set of tracks in windows, because audio drivers are not so good, but this is a problem of every not Apple user for audio and midi side. My suggestion, for vocal/voice side, please pay attenztion to the quality of the voice recorded on this youtube video, because it is terribile recorded in one untreated room with maybe not adeguate microphone like condenser type. Even if there is a carpet of audio added it is unacceptable for my personal point of view to "listen" audio suggestion with this sound scenario. 😊

[@Ndjxbxjejsjccn]

How much did it cost?

[@ZachWirchak]

Right around $1500.

[@snralmighty3606]

I always heard use windows 10 ?how come using 11 im new to building pcs am a recording artist looking for help to build my own for under 600$

[@MOAB-UT]

$600 for what the GPU card? Wake up. This is 2024 not 1980. $600 barely buys you groceries son.

[@antwonanderson2562]

I just purchased a HP Z840 - 2x Intel Xeon E5-2690 v3 (2.6 GHz) 24 CORES - 128GB RAM - 1TB SSD - 4TB HDD with Nvidea Quadro k2200 4gb gddr5

[@zeus1117]

Xeons are really old architecture and really slow clock speed CPUs, absolutely not ideal for music production. Unless you record more than use heavy VSTs. Modern VSTs require good single core speed as well as heavy performance cores. Also, RAM speed matters too.

[@MOAB-UT]

Fail build son. Sorry.

[@ianbrown3304]

Beatles used 8 track, they did alright.

[@zeus1117]

Well they did not use VSTs either ;)

[@MOAB-UT]

True

[@apstech4618]

A Mac Studio M1 Max will run circles around this PC and do it more efficiently and more quietly.

[@ZachWirchak]

I've used lots of Mac's over the past 15 years and have never had good luck when it comes to performance vs a good PC. The price vs performance to me is not there. I've also been a video editor for most of my career and to get a Mac that performs as well as a $2000 PC you've have to spend just about double. With that said, I know a few people who run smaller music production projects and they've been using the same Mac for 15+ years and it still runs great.

[@mickeymessstudios109]

WHAT was your old PC specs ???? ... the one you said was not able to handle things anymore ?????

[@ZachWirchak]

It could still handle most sessions, I was just pushing it more and more often near or to it's limits on important projects. Off the top of my head it was a i7 6700, 64gb ram (2400mhz), 250gb ssd, 1tb hdd and a Nvidia Quadro M2000. But the new machine is noticeably better all around and I push it HARD often.

[@MOAB-UT]

He told you- it's old.

[@stefanschadel9916]

My Musik-PC is 3 Jahrs old. It is an AMD Treadripper 2950X with 128Gb of RAM, 1Tb of SSD for the System and 2Tb for Sounds and Projekts. At lest i have upgrade my Graphickart (GTX1080Ti) to an RTX 4090 for 3D Rendering and Videoediting/rendering. And now i have buy an Update from Cubase 12 Pro to Cubase 13 Pro. I paid for this and after 2 Wecks i becomme nothing, No Mail to acording this Buy or from Steinberg himself. I think i!m lossing 99,99€? with the new Steinbergshop?

[@ChernobieffPiano]

So right off the bat, PC part picker says this motherboard and CPU are not compatible.

[@ZachWirchak]

I swap the motherboard later in the video. The original motherboard you're referring to is compatible, it just needs to be flashed with the latest update from the manufacturer. But I didn't want to deal with that... so I just picked up a overall better mobo.

[@ChernobieffPiano]

@@ZachWirchak can you provide a name or link please. Thank you!

[@MOAB-UT]

@@ChernobieffPiano no

[@KreativeDevices]

We can build one for you

[@sahilgaikwad530]

AMD Ryzen 7 5700G vs i7 12th 12700k vs i5 13th 13600k

[@ZachWirchak]

I've only have worked with the i7 from that list of CPU's. But I've had GREAT success with them. And the more cores the better for music production.

[@zeus1117]

5700G by far the weakest of all. You should compare to 7000-series. Also, a 5700X for example is way ahead and actually different (better) architecture than the 5700G, but you probably know it.

[@BrotherMaverick]

I just wish he wouldn't have put it on the floor. On carpet no less.

[@ZachWirchak]

Since putting in on the ground for it's initial testing, I've got it slightly elevated off the ground to help with heat and air flow.

[@gamerturniton3081]

Worst place to place the computer, in the floor.

[@ZachWirchak]

It's actually slightly elevated off the floor a little bit to help with airflow and cooling.

[@hyperenginefuel5359]

By any chance could u sell me your old pc like 50 to 70 bucks. It might be a little low price for u but bruh I'm broke and i would love to play some games during my holidays. Anyways love from india❤

[@ZachWirchak]

Sorry, I've already used parts from it to build a backup rig.

[@djrealnyc]

ok the first mistake you made was putting the pc on the floor.

[@ZachWirchak]

It was on the floor for about 10 mins while positioning it, when I elevated from the carpet.

[@NIGH.NE.]

DAWs can only access 1 core!

[@allkindsofthings673]

No native thunderbolt no DDR5 support. No thanks

[@zeus1117]

You can have that depending on what motherboard you choose. I assume you want that for audio interface?

[@tomaszwaszka3394]

Carpet on the wall? Is this Russia?