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[@christryba5536]

Please enclose the waterwheels so that there is no way water go's around the powerweels! Push all the water trough the waterweels! ;)

[@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines]

👍

[@keithduthie]

@@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines Don't constrict the water until it's already lower than the level at which it branches - otherwise it's more likely to go the other way. (That being said, obviously don't trust us without testing.)

[@Lesani]

@@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylinesand don‘t restrict flow to the wheel, only AT the wheel. Also you don‘t need to fully open the gates, they don‘t regulate fliw but how high the water behind them is, only open them a bit to store water behind, the flow is always the same when the water behind has risen again 😊

[@marcuskintz4908]

*goes

[@russelljacob7955]

I somehow missed this vid. But is one of the 'ree' for me. With simple levy to direct water through wheels, can get more power out of one wheel than a network. I am doing Islands (a tough default map) That gets thousand HP out of just a few small wheels. Direct large volumes of water into narrower channels. Flowing very fast through and filled up nice. Crazy levels of power. Looks cool too.

[@squallloire]

You don't need an extra limb factory! Each bot takes 1 head, 1 torso, and 4 limbs (2 arms, 2 legs). The head and torso each take 18hrs, the limbs take 4.5hrs - meaning one of each factory produces enough for one bot every 18 hours. You only need to double-up on the assembler 😉

[@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines]

Fair enough, I didn't check the times, just believed a commenter 😁

[@timlolxP]

Yeah, its already in the correct ratio. 1 factory for each part and 2 assemblers. I think that should get you to 90 bots in the end if i remember correctly.

[@keithduthie]

@@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines Believing a commenter? Are you crazy?!?

[@niakitten2937]

I was 90% sure you needed a second factory. 🤔

[@richardlanglois172]

Bots don't always make great haulers, unless they're in small districts. When they run out of fuel, they go reeeaaally slow, and won't stop to refuel until they complete their current task. A 50/50 mix of beavers and bots might be preferred, especially in larger districts, since beavers don't slow down nearly as much if they get hungry or thirsty mid-haul.

[@ragerancher]

Dot small fuel storages around the district with fuel and you rarely encounter this.

[@richardlanglois172]

@@ragerancher not quite correct. If a bot picks up a haul when it has 5% fuel left, and it has to take that haul to the other side of the district, a task that will consume, say, 15% fuel, it will spend 2/3rds of that trip _craaaaaaawling_ its way across the map. Any beaver or bot will not eat or drink or refuel in the middle of a task. It doesn't matter what that task is, or how long it will take, once they start, they will not interrupt themselves, even for basic needs. The bot _will_ refuel, eventually. After it drops off the haul, it will immediately head to a barrel or charging station to refuel or recharge. But it will not go to refuel until it drops off that haul first. The reason this is so bad is that a bot in need of refuelling drops to 10% speed immediately. A hungry or thirsty beaver loses only 50% or 25% move speed, respectively. Which means even a starving dehydrated beaver moves 2.5× faster than an unfueled bot.

[@ragerancher]

@@richardlanglois172 If it picks up at 5%, which is pretty rare as it is as they look to refuel before they get to 0. Every so often a bot will rarely get stuck in a situation where it is very slowly crawling across the map. That is offset by faster speed, greater carrying capacity and working 24/7. A bot will outperform a beaver, even if it has a period where it has to refuel. If you play with stupidly large districts then maybe it will be problematic but that's kinda the whole point of districts. If you're playing with districts where bots are constantly running out of fuel, that should be the least of your worries as you'd have massive inefficiencies all over the place. Bots working haulers and district crossings help keep a good balance of goods, particularly things like food and water, which tend to take a massive hit to their supply in 1 go and would not be replenished until the next day with beaver haulers.

[@pegit_purple]

biffa struggling to build a path to buildings never gets old

[@TaliyahMC]

This game is much more complex than I realized at first. Love watching you build. And I love that you don't edit out silly mistakes that everyone makes. Keep being genuine!

[@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines]

Glad you enjoy it!

[@ExpickyGinger]

Highly recommend swapping to larger storage rather than the tiny store boxes, can also check where places are kept in the more info tabs (where u saw which beaver worked where etc). Means you can keep a surplus rather than only having 100 or so (its my main issue with IronTeeth beavers coz they have really limited storage)

[@senffabrik4903]

When you have plenty Robots, its better you have several gas stations all around your base. otherwise they run out of fuel and snail back to the central gas station.

[@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines]

👍

[@ivannovalery6504]

I guess the end goal of this series is when most beavers are replaced by bots. May i suggest an alternative end goal: cover as much land as possible with trees. Returning the forrest to the land. I don’t think there is an achievement for it, but i can assure you that once done the view that you get is a well deserved reward I think right now most of the water from the source flow down to the large water gate. Dunno if this would improve your power generations on that small river: May i suggest to built a dam on the main river path on the same level of those 2 small water gates you just build.

[@Adrian.006]

In case you haven’t noticed, there’s a tab where it tells you the number of unemployed beaver bots. Its at the bottom of the top left

[@apt40444]

Suggestions: Dedicated maples for catalyst production (gunna need ~200 trees to keep up). Ditto for wood - ~100 oaks to fuel the plank/gear factories Restaff factories & hauling posts before farms - Factories cause injuries, hauling post beavers seem to be the most unhappy - Greater well-being gives you the bonus status attributes on flesh beavers like catalyst and punch cards gives to bots. Scatter small storage + barrels around the map w/ biofuel/catalyst/punch cards - a fuel-less bot moves super slow.

[@stue2298]

For the waterwheels, what you are did is 2 into 3 which will make the water flow slower and therefore less power, what you want is 3 into 2 which will make the water flow faster and then that will make more power. Try not to squeeze the water too much or you may get flooding. There is a helpful flow rate indicator that you can build to help you calculate the flow rates. The stones at the water source produce water so if you have 6 you want the combination of all the choke points to be 6 to get maximum flow rate and maximum power at no risk of flooding.

[@HenryAshman]

So with the flow rate, I'd stick some water meters near your water wheels to measure it. But I'd look at where the water flows into there as most of the water flows down to the main river. I'd look at maybe sticking a line of levies in the middle to split the flow how you want it. Also the refineries don't actually need power by the way, you should be about to plonk them wherever

[@guy_autordie]

When a beaver is cut off form the district, they will walk to their district without a path.

[@Anomnomnomaly]

I've been using the same map with the other faction, I've got about 150 beavers and 150 bots now... A reservoir and overflow channel that will keep everything flowing during droughts and bad water. I've capped the badwater wells and open them permanently so badwater power wheels is always on even during droughts. I have so many trees being planted that I never drop below 2k stored which is handy because I have about 20 engines, 2 giant and connected power towers and so many water wheels and beaver powered wheels that I'm producing over 18k bp (beaverpower not horesepower) and can let the bots run factories 24/7 and never run out of power ever again. At peak use I'm consuming about 14k bp to run everything. Once I could lay down new terrain blocks... I've reshaped the entire map... levelled mountains with explosives, filled rivers to narrow them down for water wheel efficiency and cut channels to spread water to the farthest reaches at the edges of the map. By the time I'm finished... aside from the badwater mountain and the water mountain... it will be a flat map filled with trees, food and the 2 mines... and 150 lazy beavers living a life of luxury as the bots do all the work. Only 50 of them are living it up at the moment.

[@chadmckean9026]

they will never touch a berry unless you run out of everything else to eat, you do get a bad water cap for FT, but you can't get it during a drought like IT, it only allows you to seal bad water during temperate and bad tides, but you can build a bad water factory on the source, it is way faster than pumps

[@stewarttaylor6784]

Bomb your water reservoir deeper and your channel one down to increase water volume, use dirt to narrow channel leading to the wheels. More volume, more speed

[@zecuse]

28:00 Finally learned to put a border around the waterwheels?! That's the reason their power point is 1 level above their bottom. Also, beavers are perfectly capable of building as far DOWN as you like. There's no need to "stair" your way down. I imagine them utilizing ropes to get that kind of job done.

[@LateralTwitlerLT]

The Timbernator 2 - The Rise of TreeNet

[@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines]

😬

[@LateralTwitlerLT]

@@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines Better be on the look-out for any of them sneaking off to build a *_Time Displacement Equipment_* facility 😥

[@ragerancher]

Timber la vista baby

[@adarkerstormishere]

Biffa, I thought of an idea you can mention to the devs: A check-box you can toggle on a building's menu that highlights all similar buildings while that building is selected.

[@petiertje]

For more water, perhaps build some sort of a divider in the main river so more water wil come in to the new river?

[@andrewchristofi8386]

Biffs, put waterwheels side by side so that all the water goes through the wheels. Doing them in a single line lets the water go around the sides.

[@NicholasBickerton]

This and also have a gap downstream before say the next set of 3-4 across so the water has good velocity going into the next set of waterwheels rather than diminishing returns when you have them all in one line.

[@ragerancher]

Only do that if making a channel 2 blocks wide will cause flooding, otherwise it's much more efficient to put them in a line and levee up the remining bit so all the water is forced through the wheels.

[@luigirota7964]

0:03 😂 he placed the weel instead of the “turbine” 😅 7:20

[@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines]

🤣

[@TriableMilk09]

Based on my experience you can have the water wheels all in one row but you need to enclose the sides so the water can only flow through the water wheels. The other thing you can do is raise the water level for the water wheel so the water covers half way of the water wheel.

[@Amokra]

ok if you enclose the sides how do you get out the power?

[@raelynne79]

You can look at the top left, bottom line, to see how many free bots you have. At the end of the video, you have 12 bot vacancies and none free!

[@carriegarrisonvos4433]

Ah my weekly giggle at you building and playing Timberborn!! I always enjoy it so much 🤩

[@AlexSwavely]

Me, every episode: "I wonder how long before Biffa notices the stairs, this time.."

[@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines]

🤣

[@Amokra]

yeah I was ready to look for the comments as it got closer to the end :) also hoped he would miss the bad tide again :( loved the video Biffa keep it up

[@luigirota7964]

28:08 A yes the famous emergency bad tide flush sistem, is a little bit over engineered but it works fine

[@Amokra]

I was just wating for him to miss it again :)

[@sirshaked]

Hi Biffa, I have a little tip, occasionally look at the bottom left for the notifications, injured builders, buildings that need workers, water and all kinds of important notifications

[@CorwinAlexander]

Hydroelectric power plants is kind of a regional specialty here. Have a big reservoir (wide and deep) leading into a narrow, shallow channel with your turbines in it. Narrowing your reservoir was the worst way to go about it 😊

[@masondillon]

nothing like waking up on a Saturday with a Biffa Video Alert in my Discord. Sorry Manor Lords, you shall have to wait!

[@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines]

Enjoy!

[@gamingveteran2023]

WHAT?!?!?! I can't stop giggling...because I have the same reaction. LOL. It's always interesting to see the differences in builds on the same map.

[@maxochamp5885]

Biff really put power wheels in the river 😂

[@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines]

Shhhhhh, no I didn't 🤣

[@phil9064]

What a bonehead!

[@rainbowdashieness]

Would make an awesome tower to have all the bot production facilitates stacked on top of each other with the final bot assembler as the topper.

[@luigirota7964]

Unleash the beaver bot army

[@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines]

Muhahahahahahaha

[@tommy20982]

If you need more energy, I can give you a tip. I've found that you make more energy if you leave one space between the water wheels. Five water wheels therefore make more energy than 8 water wheels with your construction. Try the Staircase Mod, it makes building much easier.

[@DISCOSHOEBOX]

If you use dam blocks next to your water wheels then they will speed up quite fast, also the dam block allows the water to get passed without flooding.

[@BrokenCurtain]

You can build two rows of water wheels next to each other to maximize the power output. It's also better to place a dam right after them to improve the flow.

[@chadmckean9026]

also you want to fill the river width with water wheels, if you need to add some levees to prevent the water from going around your wheels (BTW i have had those tiny wheels cranking out 600hp each)

[@s.scottstaten1852]

Your waterwheels are not very efficient because the water flows around them rather than turning them... Narrow the channels with Levees or terrain blocks to force the water to path thru the wheels. Otherwise, the water will mostly follow the path of least resistance and go around the wheels.

[@marcuskintz4908]

I think a roundabout at bad water 2 would really help to combat the cross traffic. Or, at least, a slip lane? 😂

[@urkerab]

I don't think the Refinery needs power so you could have built it anywhere. When you put bots in your Lumber Mills they might have been taken from the Hauling Post. Speaking of which, you want to set them all to below normal priority so that the bots fill the regular jobs first.

[@sharpless]

Levees along the water wheels should help forcing water through the wheels

[@foxy1706]

best making the channel with the power wheels narrower = more power. also extra haulers max to 10 and leave on low priority, then never have unemployed beaver or bot. same with builders

[@unlucky1933]

I think there's someone do an experiment with waterflow in Timberborn. He makes the water flow so fast it's triple the energy production.

[@anthonyewell3470]

I think you're reaching the limits of your district itself xD. In my game I've noticed everything is beggining to get that sign showing up all over the place

[@anthonyewell3470]

also there's a button on the top right to increase and decrease which level you can see (super helpful when building skyscrapers or high density things). I had a warning that I couldn't seethe building for and realized I faced a minilodge the complete opposite direction to the path. I had to leave it like that xD

[@Duane_Grabert]

Watching this and drinking snappier peach. The fact under the cap says beavers can hold their breath for 45 minutes. Lol

[@senffabrik4903]

Hey Biffa, I would love to see if you implement Bridges. They have em, use em, you terraform so much. Its sure worth the view!

[@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines]

Cool idea 👍

[@guy_autordie]

First things to do with bots, make bots parts then each elements of bots' parts, then the final assembly. Then put the bots on hauler duty.

[@Samuelpreston129]

For the water wheels I’d go and watch some of Skye Storme videos, he’s a master when it comes to generating power using water wheels and wind mills

[@kaltaron1284]

A good idea to deal with the bots is to have a hauling station at the lowest priority so that you can see how many unused bots you have available as replacements or to take over new jobs.

[@eldolly]

Refineries don’t need power, so you don’t have to connect them. PS you can see how many free bots on the top left, last row

[@urasohk]

You shouldn't use bot for builders or haulers. When they run out of biofuel their movement speed drops dramatically, however they will finish their last task before seeking more biofuel which will result in them walking painstakingly slow around the map.

[@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines]

Good tip thanks 😊

[@Simon-fg8iz]

You don't need bots in farms, because they are usually bottlenecked by storage, not how fast things grow, and they are mostly just waiting for the crops to grow. Also increase storage for bot limbs, you need more than for others because there are more pieces per bot to be stored. I find that usually, you don't need double production for limbs because they are made faster anyway. I would replace all the barrel storage by the giant barrels, it's a shame to waste work and time by having storage full. You'll most likely need to double up biofuel production because you are making A LOT of bots and they'll drink very much.

[@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines]

Good ideas 👌

[@boudico843]

You can put bee hives in the fields to increase the production. The beavers will get bee stings, the bots will not.

[@93ahalsey]

6:43 I’m not sure it is just an ironteeth thing. The adware dome was available to me on my first game. You can also just dam it up so it spills off the side.

[@nurmr]

Folktails dome can only close off badwater, Ironteeth can additionally force the badwater open during drought.

[@alexgoodwin2419]

Looks like Muppet Biffa turned up to give a hand, whether you wanted him to or not, Biffa

[@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines]

🤣

[@baystated]

"I know how stupid these beavers are." Biffa, 5:55 April 27, 2023

[@AW-ix5qg]

I think you should go for 1,000 beavers whose needs get fulfilled by beaver bots.

[@user-vq3yv1vy2s]

Nooooo! Give us two more. Unlock everything there is so much I have never seen from this game. 😅

[@SnyperMK2000JclL]

Oh also at this point your issue isnt power production persay... you have only 4 grav batteries and could be storying a metric crapton more power with, not another silly tower, but a long double sided strip of grav batteries stuffed near the edge of the map and TNTed to the limit. The power generated during the normal season by all those water wheels is far more than enough to fully charge the 4 batteries you have in a day or so and could totally charge up another maybe 12 batteries.

[@EternalGamingNet]

Great video, I just unlocked bots in my main Timberborn save so taking inspiration!

[@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines]

Have fun!

[@rustbucketstarship]

You can remove the berries and plant more chestnut and maple trees.

[@glenofborg]

Next weeks episode... The Assimilation of Kettlebridge 🤣

[@tjmacoy7066]

this is one of my favorite games! glad your playing it!

[@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines]

Mine too!

[@Josh00044]

Please keep Timberborne going after the final!

[@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines]

We'll certainly have a season 2 👍

[@TheSandman614]

You Muppit! Power wheels in the water rather than water wheels. 😂 That was great!

[@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines]

😁

[@arutha613]

Hi Biffa… fluid dynamics? Make the stream wider so more water goes down it, not narrower, then narrow it at the side of the wheels so water doesn’t sneak around the sides. If possible a step down just after the wheels will speed up the flow too . Didn’t like the “series finale” comment tho 😢

[@successmeditations110]

Always enjoy me some Timberborn

[@JDKempton]

It's all fun and games until the bots became sentient and revolted against their masters 👍 Wow that's a great movie plot 👍

[@Amokra]

That's probably why the beaver are in charge now the robots are just in sleep mode

[@codylewis3774]

Need some monuments and fun stuff now

[@woody7155]

@6:00 "i know how stupid these beavers are"

[@CityPlannerPlaysChair]

Always fun to compare Biffa to other gamers like RCE

[@lilfurbal]

Ah, but if next week is the finale of this series, will there be a new series for the iron teeth? Perhaps upping the difficulty to hard, on a different map. Love the Timberborn content :)

[@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines]

Iron teeth next for sure 👍

[@lilfurbal]

@@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines Yay!!

[@Synrgy-ei4mp]

Love Timberborn!!

[@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines]

Me too! 👍 😁

[@chicagomike1963]

NOOOO!! Season Finale Already! I guess we have Manor Lord.

[@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines]

And season 2 of Timberborn 👍

[@fokeyjo]

It sounds bizarre and probably late as I'm writing this 10 days later, but dynamite the centre block just before the water wheels.. it will speed up the water

[@SnyperMK2000JclL]

Bots should be prioritized, in my opinion, like so Bot parts/assembly/fuel Production buildings (planks, gears, etc) including badwater Hauling Posts Water pumps Gatherers Builders Finally Farms Farms should be LAST because of their long wait times, its not productive to have bots sitting around waiting on crops all night, its better to have them work on production/gathering/misc jobs first.

[@nrwiederhold]

you run reeeeaaaaallly small margins on a lot of these resources!

[@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines]

But it works 👍😁

[@ashardalondragnipurake]

is adding the extra way for the water sensible? sure you have more room for waterwheels but both paths now have half the flow so you doubled the amount of wheels but halved each wheels power

[@namelessbeast4868]

I feel like having the bots take most/all jobs is kinda of a waste. It would be more interesting if you could have them working in shifts. You could have your beavers working for a set period( let's say 8 hrs) and have the bots take over for the other 16 hours while your beavers enjoy their rest time.

[@matheus5573]

Best way to start the day

[@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines]

👍😁

[@AdamHinckley]

24:39 Beavers can't get up the steps at the back, *EDIT* you fixed it later on

[@notharry9328]

Nice Video!

[@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines]

Thanks!

[@teekayfourtwoone4686]

You restricted the water flow on the way to the water wheels.

[@CraigSteinhoff]

Yea wkuld love more manor lords

[@harrythompson6977]

cms= cubic meters a second 1 block is 1 meter

[@AdamHinckley]

21:45 you have double path and no beavers are using it

[@Flobyby]

Quietly waiting to become a beaver bot as a KZbin tipper, but not wanting to make a fuss

[@zjshafe]

Welcome to Kettlebot

[@diplomog]

Cool

[@thepostman69]

You and James May make me genuinely happy when you use the term "You muppet" 😂

[@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines]

🤣

[@SpaceyO2]

Almost 3 weeks since a CS:2 video?

[@allnighterowl5347]

Did he just put a shaming wheel instead of a water wheel?????? Edit: he realized things

[@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines]

🤣

[@maxochamp5885]

HI!!!!

[@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines]

👍😁

[@TXPhoenix79]

22:34 The refinery does not need power BTW. 25:28 You stole bots from the Hauling Posts. Also, the bots have their own employment metrics in the fourth line in the top left. KZbinr Skye Storme has done videos on water flow to maximize water wheels.

[@MsEgwene]

Theres a tab under the number of unemployed beavers, that tells you how many unemployed bots you have. Next to it is the number of job openings for bots. You kept adding bots to workplaces when you didn't have unemployed bots, which means you're just stealing them from the jobs they were already doing, which leaves jobs unfilled, while you have real beavers doing nothing 😅 I hope you didnt steal the gear maker bots that way, because that would hold everything up.

[@mr.creeper3440]

i have been your patreon supporter for over 2 years but stil have not named as a bot or a beaver

[@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines]

Thankyou for your support and I apologise if you've been waiting all series. As it's only been going a couple months and I choose randomly from a long list, not everyone can be named everytime. Maybe in the near future 👍😁

[@mr.creeper3440]

@@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines no promblem just wanted to let you know

[@SnyperMK2000JclL]

For the new row of waterwheels... i hate to say this but you should delete it ALL again... With the watersource on the top of the screen, that row of waterwheels should be a 2 rows of waterwheels with the shafts coming out the righthand side since its the shorter shoreline. As many others have said, waterwheels lose effectiveness when water can more easily flow around rather than through the waterwheels. For this reason is why i, as well as others, say to do 2 rows of waterwheels rather than the single row you currently have. Also remove those levees choaking the mouth of the 2nd river. Either that or the less efficient and more flood prone method of adding a crapton of levees on both sides of the wheels to contain the water to only go through the waterwheels. I do NOT recommend this as it kills your possible power production by 50% as its only half the wheels. Ps. The only way to push more water to the secondary river is to add 5 floodgates on the same level in the main river. There would be a lot of engineering to be done to do this and with how far in you are already it might not be worth it. Just double up on the waterwheels down the secondary river and all should be good. Pss... Also also.. add in another dozen or 4 Grav Batteries. You have a ton of power coming in and being wasted after a day or 2, those 4 grav batteries you already have just arent enough.

[@daniel_bonatto]

At this point I'm not sure if you make so many mistakes on purpose or not

[@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines]

No-ones perfect 😉

[@kineuhansen8629]

you heard of i robot this is b robot

[@SagePerkins-le2ej]

First.

[@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines]

Almost 😁👍