The real reason...reduce the number of models in the range due to current state of bike industry
@matkrek4 ай бұрын
Just more cost effective regardless of the industry state, works for Specialized
@josephreilman85274 ай бұрын
And screw what the customer wants
@Andy_ATB4 ай бұрын
No need for two races bikes....You don't see motorsport teams use two different models in one series. It's ridiculously expensive.
@staccatoglock4 ай бұрын
💯
@mylesie80784 ай бұрын
Absolutely 💯 %⁰
@gregbianchi26894 ай бұрын
A guy in a bike shop gave me the best advice years ago. he said you want to go up hills faster ?? Lose 20 lbs. And he was right...
@mmurmurjohnson23684 ай бұрын
Or draft the guys on the Sl8s and new Madones, I'll keep my old Madone my old Venge 🔥
@derekbiggerstaff4 ай бұрын
So he was calling you fat.
@flipper2gv4 ай бұрын
@@derekbiggerstaff Everybody's fat compared to the pros.
@kevinbarkema16664 ай бұрын
And with this bike…..
@kellenhassell4 ай бұрын
Cool story bro
@sarahtoustra71274 ай бұрын
Love how these companies present cost-cutting measures and less choice for customers as an improvement.
@kreed44 ай бұрын
Truth
@HeyWattsUpCycling4 ай бұрын
100%. just a do it all bike. its going to be worse than either and the weight difference between the gen 7 madone and emonda is less than half a pound and data has shown no matter where your riding the aero gains even on climbs more than make up for the difference.
@AG-el6vt4 ай бұрын
Well, it *is* and improvement. For them.
@JMurph20154 ай бұрын
To be fair, Specialized and some others are getting close-ish to the UCI weight limits which means that at least for pros, there is literally zero benefit for additional weight savings. So they might as well try to make that 6.8kg system more and more aero. Trek is a fair bit off here though.
@davidkennedy48454 ай бұрын
"Spin" of the marketing type. "Spin", in my book, is to maintain a high cadence. They seem to get the two confused! To their benefit of course.
@flipper2gv4 ай бұрын
The previous Madone being a lot more striking might become a collector's item.
@chad851004 ай бұрын
Hope so. I just got (June 5th) a 2024 Madone SLR9 Mads Peterson ultra chromatic.
@mmurmurjohnson23684 ай бұрын
An old Madone and Venge is a sweet quiver, not into these Ozempic bikes at all
@Rainmaker00074 ай бұрын
I love my green slr gen6.
@kreed44 ай бұрын
Agree. Much prefer the gen 7. And it’s definitely more aero/faster on the flats than gen 8
@HeyWattsUpCycling4 ай бұрын
its the fastest bike on the market and best looking no question.
@bsbbernal4 ай бұрын
I noticed the change in how you structure and format these reviews. You seem to tackle questions more directly and more objectively now--reserving judgment when needed. Much appreciated and refreshing compared to your old style of review.
@perjensen19624 ай бұрын
I totally agree. Good format David🤗
@axuh3824 ай бұрын
I hope this bike comes for sale to Lidl near me!
@tweed09294 ай бұрын
You can pick yours off from local USPS office near you!
@leedorney4 ай бұрын
In that bargain isle 😁
@LukeGJPotter4 ай бұрын
If we can't believe the claimed weight, can we believe the claimed Aero? The previous gen is much better looking.
@sodamanoi4 ай бұрын
This new model saves more drag from the new aero bottle design 😅
@gregvassilakos4 ай бұрын
Oh no! I ride an Emonda. Part of the attraction was that it is a simple frame design with no gimmicks. Perhaps my next bike will be a Cervelo Soloist or Giant TCR.
@shiznit764 ай бұрын
Why? Stick to your current emonda if you don't like this version
@jamesspokes13724 ай бұрын
Keep the Emonda.
@levipicard76854 ай бұрын
It's still relatively simple, no iso speed. Keep your emonda for now, they're still crazy fast. But there's no gimmick here it's just different from what you're used to seeing.
@Gws5253 ай бұрын
Giant TCR is wickedly underrated
@JIMMYHIBBS12 ай бұрын
I just swapped my 2016 Emonda S5 for an Emonda SL6 pro - looked at the soloist, but couldn’t justify the price for the same spec (di2 - carbon wheels) … I’m not unrealistic that Trek carbon wheels and finishing kits are the best - but at the price point, they appear nicely finished, and good paint jobs (looked at Canyon and Orbea and they just look budget by comparison)
@muratmustafa45324 ай бұрын
Well Trek did not disappoint. The new bike is still heavier and more expensive than the competition! Such a shame...
@FT__Bicycling_____-sc7yv4 ай бұрын
At Trek HQ: Boss: We need to increase the bottom line. The Madone is our highest margin model. We need to sell more Madones! Guy: Yeah.. how can we sell more Madones? Accountant1: A lot of people are buying Emondas rather than Madones Logistics guy: We are buried in different SKUs / sizes / paint colors. Logistics guy 2: If we simplify our SKU range, we can reduce inventory costs by 10% and also manufacturing and development costs even more Manufacturing manager: yeah the factory scheduler says we'd save money, and having less molds would save a ton.. Guy: oh guys I have an idea. If we eliminate the Emonda model then the people who would have bought and Emonda will buy a Madone! Logistics guys: yeah.. and like we said... Guy 2: We will sell more madones!!! Boss: Brilliant idea Guy 1 and 2. Let's do it. Hey engineers, make the Madone a bit lighter and say that we combined the models. Show them charts and stuff, Engineering mgr: but..... Marketing: Yeah they love charts! Let's do it.
@MrJlopez884 ай бұрын
The accountant need more lines 😂
@tweed09294 ай бұрын
@@MrJlopez88 nobody cares what an accountant says. His job is to... COUNT 🤣
@jondillon54334 ай бұрын
@@FT__Bicycling_____-sc7yv it’s like you were at the meeting….
@yourstruly23373 ай бұрын
You are that Guy 1. Admit it!!! 😅
@saphireg80944 ай бұрын
Outgoing aero Madone looks ages better
@karankapoor0014 ай бұрын
Yup,,this looks gayi 😅
@stizz194 ай бұрын
This bike with the fancy paint job costs up to $22,000 CAD, that is ridiculous.
@ferventheat4 ай бұрын
My £200 second hand Giant TCR 2 with full duraace from 17 years ago weighs about 0.5kg more than a new £22k bike? "Ridiculous!" Indeed.
@GregJungwirth4 ай бұрын
It makes the S-Works SL8 Tarmac at $18,000 CAD look like an absolute deal! 😂😂😂
@FT__Bicycling_____-sc7yv4 ай бұрын
That's how much the last NEW car I bought cost.
@harlan31034 ай бұрын
Why go for the top tier version? the SL (105/Ultegra) version is far better choice IMO
@suminshizzles69514 ай бұрын
This is a total and utter rip off. They are hoping that fools who part with their money will indeed part with their money as they are fools. Research and developement is frqeuntly quoted by peole who buy these expenisve bikes , as to why they are so expensive. This theory goes out the window when you compare how much car or motorcycle you can get for 22k. But the real crime is the fact that the bike is ugly and odd looking. It is filled with gimmicks that actually look dangerous and are not even arodynamic. Dont telll trek that.
@_cpdchua4 ай бұрын
7.3 kgs without pedals + having Sram Red is diabolical. Whack
@AdamJStoryDC4 ай бұрын
I'm glad I didn't drink the Coolaid and buy a heavy bike believing that weight didn't matter and only aerodynamics mattered (unless you're at a 9% incline). I guess now we're back to "weight matters" so I'll wait a year to buy this bike when they Trek can't sell any for $14,000 and it will be on sale for $7999.
@korsveien4 ай бұрын
I bought my canyon Endurace disc in 2018. It was the lowest tier with carbon frame and 105 Shimano. At 8,2 kg it was considered to be a bit heavy. How times have changed and people quickly forget. Guess we now are going back to anything over 8 kg is heavy again.
@jamesspokes13724 ай бұрын
Spot on. The 180 is breath taking
@lawman19654 ай бұрын
"We've tried to break it". Not until you've given it to an overweight English rider like me to test ride it on our wonderful lanes! Paris Roubaix? Pah, Staffordshire lanes with fat old me on the bike will kill it dead.....lol. Seriously though, I do wonder how reliable it will be for heavier riders like me on our really terrible roads!
@bravodelta68834 ай бұрын
He tried to break it...Meanwhile, he weighs 110 pounds.
@deployeddan4 ай бұрын
I'm close to the bikes limit... So give it to me for a week.... Challenge accepted 😂
@andy009m4 ай бұрын
I think they don’t hire old fat people for test ride. See how fit they are. Even the big guy there is not fat.
@andrew30m4 ай бұрын
Staffs lanes! Luxury! the roads around Lichfield are like silk smooth, thus needs to try roads round York, like ploughed field wit soom stoney tarmac throwen ont top, and we r grateful for dem.
@leedorney4 ай бұрын
Was up over Huddersfield way at the weekend and those roads great inclines but by god the state was chronic truly bad potholes! I really believe I could snap those bike especially that (pathetic) dual seatpost
@diegoeleazar91544 ай бұрын
Bike manufacturers hit the wall on improvements.
@niklaskristensson22314 ай бұрын
Cant afford..but nice to watch progress. Nice video, David! Keep it up🎉
@davidarthur4 ай бұрын
Thanks! 😃
@ruisantos57464 ай бұрын
When you do the comparison review Dogma F vs SL8 vs new Madone, remember to compare them with the same tires and wheels 😉👍
@jEsperesence4 ай бұрын
I’ll just buy the new bottles and bottle cage on my 2021 Emonda SL6 Pro and BAM! I got my somewhat a Gen 8 update! 😅 Cheapest way to deal with this. Emonda ❤ Forever!
@singyuchan54474 ай бұрын
Can’t watch the trek guys boast about the bike while keeping a straight face knowing this is because of SKUs
@terbennett4 ай бұрын
Facts 100%
@levipicard76854 ай бұрын
Yes, it is about SKUs, but I've ridden the last few gens of emonda and Madone and the new one really is fast and just feels nice to ride. The balance of stiffness, compliance and speed is well done and the fact that they were able to reduce SKUs without too much compromise is still impressive
@buster.keaton4 ай бұрын
Trek should just include two top tube stickers with the bike, one that says "Madone" and the other "Emonda"... then you can choose which bike you want it to be. 🙂
@gerrymcbride64294 ай бұрын
@buster.keaton A wise man!
@jamessankey014 ай бұрын
Top shelf content, thanks. Excellent ride footage and high level of detail. Great shots of the bikes. This is in contrast to so many others who focus on them talking instead of ride & bike footage.
@Gixer750pilot4 ай бұрын
It’s about Reducing SKUs . It makes sense . But the geometry may be too extreme for most .
@stefanomancini65694 ай бұрын
agreed
@scottf34564 ай бұрын
Yes, now they need to revamp the domane, lower the weight and get rid if the iso speed. Or bring back the h2 fit on this model.
@Andy_ATB4 ай бұрын
@@scottf3456 Nothing wrong with the Domane; the perfect bike for the 'normal' rider......
@Andy_ATB4 ай бұрын
Marlin, Roscoe and alloy Procaliber surely aren't all needed?
@scottf34564 ай бұрын
@@Andy_ATB well thats a matter of opinion, you can say there was nothing wrong with the emonda or the madone. Domane is like just about the heaviest in class and the isospeed while confortable - people have complained about it as the bike ages. Still it is a beautiful bike as is there is no denying that.
@rolffuchs27374 ай бұрын
In the real world tested (I think it was bike station), the Madone Gen 7 was on a hill climb (average 6%) faster than a Tarmac SL8, although 2 pounds heavier. And the Madone is much more comfy. So I guess I'll get a Gen 7 for me, it even looks so much better.
@mikefj20044 ай бұрын
To me the smallest and most insignificant changes are between the SL7 Gen 7&8. Pretty much the entire gen 8 bike is exactly the same and weighs only .28grams lighter. I prefer the more aggressive look of the gen 7. I would expect an immediate price drop of the gen 7 though given that both are currently the exact same price. Seat stays is a little thicker on Gen 7 but gen 8 does have a slightly more compliant stay (argumentative how much better it is). Aesthetically, the gen 8 color schemes are beautiful and imo, Trek has the best paint jobs in the industry.
@bubby3724 ай бұрын
For a minute there I thought I was watching Safa Brian. Great descending David.
@davidarthur4 ай бұрын
Thanks! :)
@SomeTrader743 ай бұрын
True, some other bikes might be a bit lighter but I'd take aero and compliance (comfort) any day.
@liciniooliveira-becas36184 ай бұрын
This seems to make some more sense. They all just want one top of the line segment. That cut on the frame below the seatpost scares me a lot!
@stephenbrown5904 ай бұрын
"dramatically lighter".... Meh, I'm "dramatically lighter" if I have a number two before a ride, in that case 😂🚲
@davidkennedy48454 ай бұрын
And only put half the amount of fluid in my bidden!
@HeadPack4 ай бұрын
Gen 7 is a piece of art by comparison. Might try to get myself one used, now that this is out.
@cmarnold784 ай бұрын
Look at that brutal attack at 16:11!!!! Crushing dreams there David!
@davidarthur4 ай бұрын
Haha 😂
@madyogi61644 ай бұрын
17:15 Trek is definitely a cool bike, but still I prefer the view. The view and the speed.
@Justjust0074 ай бұрын
I like how frank you are and also detailed..I just wish that someone did a video on Trek FX Sport 6 .I just want to ride on paved trails and feel light, but I don't know if it's worth spending $2700 for a city bike ...Thanks for your videos
@madyogi61644 ай бұрын
And as always it is 200 grams lighter, more aero, and rides faster. Just we are older and slower. Comedy gold.
@davidkennedy48454 ай бұрын
In a blind testing, most wouldn't be able to distinguish a difference between the outgoing model and this one.
@madyogi61644 ай бұрын
@@davidkennedy4845 You're right! Well, position will be bit different (different sizing brings slightly different angles here or there).
@edjack19934 ай бұрын
I can’t help but think that the seatpost set up is a real potential point of failure. Am sure it’s suitably reinforced but it just looks shonky. Aethos for me, thanks.
@JimGarlits4 ай бұрын
That was the first thing that stood out to me, too.
@philchevrier4 ай бұрын
I have no regrets that I bought a gen7 last year, it's a great bike. However, that new one does look like great!
@davidspagnolo48704 ай бұрын
Why would you regret buying a better product?
@philchevrier4 ай бұрын
@@davidspagnolo4870 So you've ridden both and can objectively say the 7 is better? Please share the details.
@tonyd51114 ай бұрын
I think it looks horrendous around the seat tube area. Does not inspire confidence at all. Frankenstein monster of a bike.
@fabianmolyneux23084 ай бұрын
Fantastic review Dave. Thank you. I loved my Trek Emondas, one of which I sill ride today. I'm disappointed the new Madone is not as light as I was hoping and from the impressions I take from your review, the "Jury is still undecided" as to whether it's a big stride ahead of what existed 2 years previously. The fact you need to test it further on your home turf suggests to me that while it's a good bike it didn't knock your socks off, liked you'd expect to experience. Hanging out for your SL6 review
@johnoldham8083 ай бұрын
As an Emonda owner, I regret this decision was not run by me‼️🤦♂️🤷♂️😳🤪
@leotronixbabu4 ай бұрын
Good review, it's very helpful for all. Thanks for your hardworking.
@davidarthur4 ай бұрын
My pleasure!
@cityslacker62214 ай бұрын
what an incredible ride in Spain. Beautiful riding!
@Jessikitty20204 ай бұрын
Keeping my emonda SL6 pro. Carbon frame, carbon wheels, mechanical ultegra and rim brakes. 16 pounds with tubes.
@thatrandombikeguy4 ай бұрын
Wow….Trek guys seem super excited to talk about the bike (heavy sarcasm). Probably worried they’re about to get cut along with the retail employees and SKUs 😂
@roa53594 ай бұрын
Strange looking contraption. I guess it’s what they do to reinvent the wheel/run out of ideas on what to do with a bike frame.
@ianslater40914 ай бұрын
My missis says, it looks like an Airfix model put together wrongly. I think she is right 😂
@robertmcfadyen91564 ай бұрын
Adam Bird from the design team on Aeroad tasks has said that the ALR (alloy) Emonda will be the only ongoing model for the forthcoming year in that series . The carbon higher - teir models will be in the platform merger .
@brend25494 ай бұрын
Great review, youre the only journo who has actually weighed the thing
@scottishjason4 ай бұрын
Reminds me of the Look Mondrian paint job, love the look. It’s not worth the price however.
@AG-el6vt4 ай бұрын
Hahaha somebody must have seen a Look 795 and thought, 'Yeah let's just copy that color scheme! I'm sure nobody will notice the dented seat tube.'
@davidkennedy48454 ай бұрын
If buyers keep paying savagely high prices for bikes, the manufacturers will keep on making them. Lets face it, the majority of those who can afford to buy them, will never realise the apparent tech advantages anywhere near in full. Remember, the pros don't pay for the bikes they ride in the grand tours. Cycling used to be a sport for the working class. Manufacturers have changed this to a sport/recreation for the upper class. Buy your next bike with your head, not with your ego.
@JimGarlits4 ай бұрын
Well yeah, there's that. But cycling is an industry, too. All of the R&D goes into the high-end bikes, and the tech eventually filters down to reasonably priced models over time. I'm okay with this. I would never pay thousands of dollars for one of these bikes, but they're fun to look at and see them reviewed. I'd be afraid to scratch the paint brushing past one in a bike shop! Still cool, though. I think that most of those buying these can afford them, and they can spend their money how they like. I feel for the guy (well, his wife) who can't afford it but buys it anyway!
@MrJlopez884 ай бұрын
Long life to the Specialized Allez Sprint first gen
@davidderrico95344 ай бұрын
How does compare to Specialized Tarmac ?
@lancewatson28394 ай бұрын
Trek, Pinarello, Cervello, Colnago….most of their prices in AUD are just ridiculous
@Dali62664 ай бұрын
Out of control expensive 😡
@jacobrich77854 ай бұрын
The cool wall! Always a great comparison scale:) It’s great knowing I can see a new bike release and that this channel will explain it right away
@Adam-we2bd4 ай бұрын
looking forward for the sl6 review
@thomasspotzl42404 ай бұрын
The bottles remind me of dishwashing detergent. Quite fitting for Lidl.
@cesar06104 ай бұрын
That's exactly I need to learn for selling my 2023 Emonda SL6. I ain't keeping an obsolete bike. I ain't loosing money hanging in my garage
@MrAlucard196414 күн бұрын
I had an Emonda like yours. I bought a Madone SL6 Gen 8. I can tell you that the combining of the Emonda and the Madone was a good idea. It performs great and I love the comfort.
@georgeowbatchelor4 ай бұрын
For sure it is the economics of cheaper to have one frame, rather than two, but still attract the same demand
@davidcarino65004 ай бұрын
I own a SLR emonda frame with paint 56-58 cm 800-900 grams! Yes I did call trek on that, they admitted to me 700 grams is with out paint. But the model i have from 2 years ago rides really nice! Specialized frames do have thin paint compared to my trek. These companies what to charge this insane money show there frames with paint on a scale and and complete build with pedals weight!
@anterrickson25854 ай бұрын
I like what they did here to compete with the Tarmac, but I think the Emonda could have been turned into an Aethos competitor, UCI illegal light weight beast.
@steveindorset4 ай бұрын
Nice to hear all the info from the team. But I think I preferred the old Emonda. I’m not mad about that seat post “hole” thingy, still looks a bit odd. But I’m loving that paint job!😍 Very similar to the “Look” paint jobs of a few years ago. Would I buy one? Probably not, Trek is really not my “tasse de thè!” I’m still drooling over that “hulk Green” Wilier. 😍 Good info though David. And well done getting yourself in on all these new bike press releases. You’re one of the big boys out there now. 10/10 😎👍🏻 P.S. Still waiting on that Wahoo Roam V2 review, you know…the one that you’ve used in this review as well?? 😁🙏🏻👍🏻
@jondillon54334 ай бұрын
Looks like you’ve a layback seatmast, stock is inline on all models. Is this correct? Did you spec a 20mm layback for the test bike?
@benbos19254 ай бұрын
They should have gone with a new name: ADEMON same lettering new name
@roadbikelover1234 ай бұрын
Hard to believe that this bike is not less aero than the previous madone
@michaelliu65704 ай бұрын
Prob from the proprietary water bottles
@fen24534 ай бұрын
they changed the testing parameters
@kreed44 ай бұрын
Yeah. The much shallower headtube won’t be as aero as the deeper one in Gen 7
@michaelliu65704 ай бұрын
@@kreed4 wonder how the power transfer feels like too. BB doesn’t look beefed up.
@jamesspokes13724 ай бұрын
It is less aero, unless you spend £190 on aero bottles then it is the same as Gen 7
@treyquattro4 ай бұрын
Madone to rule them all... Not for me though. I know the seat mast is safe, but it always looks like it's about to snap off. I prefer your more old school, staid, and conservative seat tube design, thanks. I'm also skeptical about Isoflow, no matter what yer man says: just how much is airflow quantitatively improved in that section of the bike, behind the head tube and in the midst of the big, messy human stirring it up?
@BobMcAllan4 ай бұрын
What a bike! It's light, it's aero, it's stiff, 900 OCLV Carbon (??).. it's everything I want in a bike.. wait, how much? Meh.
@Eirikkinserdal4 ай бұрын
Madone is named after a climb after all
@Scottfoil104 ай бұрын
La principal razón es que antes hubo un boom de ventas en bicicletas, y al cliente se le quería convencer de que necesitaba una escaladora (emonda) y una aero para el llano (madone). Lo que el cliente no se daba cuenta es que tenia la misma bici, misma geometria, una con tubos algo mas finos y otra mas rectos con una diferencia de peso a igualdad de componentes de unos 400 grs en el mejor de los casos (dependiendo de la marca, en mi caso son 200 grs), y que para nada es determinante en su rendimiento. Ahora que hay una crisis en ventas, quieren convencer al cliente que lo mejor es tener una bici (gen 8) que "tiene lo mejor de la escaladora y la Aero" cuando es la misma bici que las anteriores. La realidad es que se trata de reducir costes.
@avroman1002 ай бұрын
I’m cycling for 10 years and each year I hear, 5% lighter, faster, aero. But actually there not so much difference to buy new bike each year and even 5 years. Actually my 6 years old bike was 7.5 kilos, and very fast, cost me 4k usd , today same model from same company 9 kilos and cost 6k (so where is improvement?) . Actually, there is no reason to upgrade. And someone can say disk brakes better, but they are sucks, on dry conditions they stop exactly the same, they need much more maintenance, and I don’t cycle in rain. Electric shifting also has so many problems and cost a lot of money and already had issue in competition with that gear. So, all that marketing sucks, industry trying to get our money by selling stories. After bike upgrade, I don't find too many improvements even I have now aero, disk brakes , 12 speed electronic gear, my speed is not changed, my feelings on the bikes are the same my happiness level from cycling is the same on 1k bike and on 6k bike
@Aussie_stu4 ай бұрын
David Arthur mentioning the Top Gear cool wall, a week after Cade Media introduces their own cool wall. Almost as bad as Jumbos copy of Wantys Cube.
@rolffuchs27374 ай бұрын
So it is not lighter than the old model and not more aero?
@jamesspokes13724 ай бұрын
Correct.
@kingdompilot183 ай бұрын
So trek released the gen 7 knowing that in like 8 months they were going to release the gen 8. I wonder when the gen 9 is going to come out.
@LOZUPONEJ4 ай бұрын
Just combine the checkpoint and domane next to cut costs lol
@Philippe-ke3sk4 ай бұрын
And then merge this light allroad aero bike domane/checkpoint with the light aero madone. At the end one bike for everyone, and one size M/L to be in the middle😂
@gerrymcbride64294 ай бұрын
You mean the Checkmate, I think that's on the way.
@tweed09294 ай бұрын
Check. Done.
@Maffy-h4 ай бұрын
Hello david love your content. Which bike do you prefer to ride. The new madone or the new dogma F?
@AndrewGreaseАй бұрын
The bottle cages! :D
@todd7273004 ай бұрын
I don't understand why there is a $4000 difference between an SLR 9 and SLR 7. Looking at Trek's specs and the difference in price between Dura-Ace and Ultegra as well as wheels and saddle, you still don't come anywhere near that difference.
@gregmorrison73204 ай бұрын
Because there will be people who believe they are getting $4000.00 extra value so will pay for it, good profit for Trek.
@thebikeracer4 ай бұрын
That sizing chart looks terrible for a 6' person like me. I've been riding a 58 Emonda with a 57.3 TT. It used to be easy to size a bike for myself. Now everything is jacked up. Don't even get me started on trying to fit a Checkpoint...Which means I wouldn't be able to ride a stock stem length - my guess - but how much is that one-piece cockpit to figure it out???
@axelmogr4 ай бұрын
That's one fugly bike, gen 7 is gonna massively appreciate in value now. Lets cut the BS this is a cost-cutting move. Nobody asked for a skinnier/less aero Madone.
@bigwave_dave84684 ай бұрын
I still can't get behind the mechanically stupid seat tube junction. It's a gimmick that won't stand the test of time and makes the fitment more limited.
@banjo71274 ай бұрын
$3500 for the entry level ready to ride SL but $3800 for the frameset without any assembly or equipment costs!? Is this a commonplace tactic with manufacturers and suppliers to shift their groupsets etc or is diverting a frameset before assembly somehow more costly? Makes no sense on the face of it.
@izylldus4 ай бұрын
Let's just agree that the only real winner here are the mechanics from teams sponsored by Trek
@mikespadafora90773 ай бұрын
Aero gains have hit peak marketing claims. Riders want light weight and responsive bikes. With inflation, sales are down and it is well known that Trek is hurting financially. They needed to reduce their SKUs and thus this bike was born. Plain and simple.
@davemaca4 ай бұрын
My CAAD 10 from 10 years ago is lighter. 20k aud for a 7 kg bike, the SL frames are nearly 9kg!
@geoffreyfaltot10062 ай бұрын
Trek needs an all aluminum race bike for the entry level and recreational consumers. The weekend warriors. The kids getting into the sport. The people who don't want to panic when they get in a wreck because they just damaged their savings as well. They should have made the emonda from the beginning the go to all aluminum race bike. A competitor to Cannondale's CAAD series. No gimmicky junk just race geometry with conservative aesthetics. The madone should have ALWAYS been their Ferrari. Their developmental platform. Their top tier. Always carbon with different components and wheelsets for different price points. But no doubt their secret weapon for speed. Trek should have done this from the beginning. Should have stuck with it.
@ps3narciso4 ай бұрын
i am on the fence between the new tcr pro1 and the gen 8 madone sl6. which should i get? you rode both so it would be nice to share your opinion 😊
@maveriks4634 ай бұрын
They lost me at the lack of weight savings....😢😢
@escamunicha42764 ай бұрын
I own an old Emonda and I could never put myself to like that hole under the seatpost.
@adamc5474 ай бұрын
It is NOT DRAMATICALLY lighter - total BS marketing. Website states the SLR 7 in a medium is little over 16lbs- was in trek shop and that bike weighs over 17- roughly 17.3lbs
@p0sitiv4673 ай бұрын
What would you pick this or the new Canyon Aeroad?
@EddyCat12343 ай бұрын
7.3kg does seem a tad heavy. By way of comparison, my current gen Emonda with Aeolus 51’s, Bontrager aero bars and matching stem, pedals, cages, Garmin and light mounts is 7.45 and it a size 60
@jrnlundsgaard58964 ай бұрын
Like specialized. Low cost production and premium prices to costumers combined with bull shit marketing. It is a wonder that costumers keep buying these brands. All the claims with Venge and old Madone now seams hollow because of the one bike to rule them all concept. I don't belive all the claims and marketing + reviews any more. You simply have to do the test your self.
@CycleXplorer4 ай бұрын
Comes with lifetime discount in Lidl if you take it in those colours
@tweed09294 ай бұрын
No rim brakes, no mechanical shifting, eye-watering prices... and then they wonder why they can't sell more bikes. Yeah, why?
@zachrinehimer52394 ай бұрын
Base sl5 madone 105 mechanical shift $3499
@deployeddan4 ай бұрын
Very nice video David! As a heavier rider, I'm not EVER going to trust that seat cluster! I've seen them posted online already snapped, and more cracked. While I love a new bike day, I'm either stuck with my Émonda Slr..... Or have to look at a different manufacturer
@alexgonzalezMIАй бұрын
I have a Canyon Aeroad and I like it. It's fast and aggressive in Crits. However, when you go on a long ride, it's extremely uncomfortable after about 60 miles. Just beats me up. I wonder how much more comfortable a new Madone or SL8 would feel over the Canyon.
@SnugMoney4 ай бұрын
How much weight did they save by making the TREK logo smaller?
@davidarthur4 ай бұрын
56g 😆
@stubestrong4 ай бұрын
first thought was how much more aero this bike could be with the cervelo S5 star trek style stem
@nealm18144 ай бұрын
Madone SL6 which you reckon is the "sweet spot" is £3250 to £4250 😂😂😂😂 Just love that bike journo sweet spot 😂😂
@davidarthur4 ай бұрын
I didn't say it was cheap! ;)
@YeahRightWm34 ай бұрын
How does it feel on the climbs-mountains vs the Emonda?
@terbennett4 ай бұрын
Let's be real. Weight has ALWAYS mattered. We were told that to convince us that disc brakes were the way to go, at a time when the masses were uncertain. Now we ride disc and weight is at the forefront again. It never left but most people were too narrow-minded to see it. Whether it's on your body or on the bike, weight will always matter to some degree. That's a lot of what we pay for when buying a bicycle.