I Can’t Believe Trek Has Done This! New 2025 Madone SLR replaces Emonda...

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David Arthur - Just Ride Bikes

David Arthur - Just Ride Bikes

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@Roger101Watson
@Roger101Watson 4 ай бұрын
The real reason...reduce the number of models in the range due to current state of bike industry
@matkrek
@matkrek 4 ай бұрын
Just more cost effective regardless of the industry state, works for Specialized
@josephreilman8527
@josephreilman8527 4 ай бұрын
And screw what the customer wants
@Andy_ATB
@Andy_ATB 4 ай бұрын
No need for two races bikes....You don't see motorsport teams use two different models in one series. It's ridiculously expensive.
@staccatoglock
@staccatoglock 4 ай бұрын
💯
@mylesie8078
@mylesie8078 4 ай бұрын
Absolutely 💯 %⁰
@gregbianchi2689
@gregbianchi2689 4 ай бұрын
A guy in a bike shop gave me the best advice years ago. he said you want to go up hills faster ?? Lose 20 lbs. And he was right...
@mmurmurjohnson2368
@mmurmurjohnson2368 4 ай бұрын
Or draft the guys on the Sl8s and new Madones, I'll keep my old Madone my old Venge 🔥
@derekbiggerstaff
@derekbiggerstaff 4 ай бұрын
So he was calling you fat.
@flipper2gv
@flipper2gv 4 ай бұрын
@@derekbiggerstaff Everybody's fat compared to the pros.
@kevinbarkema1666
@kevinbarkema1666 4 ай бұрын
And with this bike…..
@kellenhassell
@kellenhassell 4 ай бұрын
Cool story bro
@sarahtoustra7127
@sarahtoustra7127 4 ай бұрын
Love how these companies present cost-cutting measures and less choice for customers as an improvement.
@kreed4
@kreed4 4 ай бұрын
Truth
@HeyWattsUpCycling
@HeyWattsUpCycling 4 ай бұрын
100%. just a do it all bike. its going to be worse than either and the weight difference between the gen 7 madone and emonda is less than half a pound and data has shown no matter where your riding the aero gains even on climbs more than make up for the difference.
@AG-el6vt
@AG-el6vt 4 ай бұрын
Well, it *is* and improvement. For them.
@JMurph2015
@JMurph2015 4 ай бұрын
To be fair, Specialized and some others are getting close-ish to the UCI weight limits which means that at least for pros, there is literally zero benefit for additional weight savings. So they might as well try to make that 6.8kg system more and more aero. Trek is a fair bit off here though.
@davidkennedy4845
@davidkennedy4845 4 ай бұрын
"Spin" of the marketing type. "Spin", in my book, is to maintain a high cadence. They seem to get the two confused! To their benefit of course.
@flipper2gv
@flipper2gv 4 ай бұрын
The previous Madone being a lot more striking might become a collector's item.
@chad85100
@chad85100 4 ай бұрын
Hope so. I just got (June 5th) a 2024 Madone SLR9 Mads Peterson ultra chromatic.
@mmurmurjohnson2368
@mmurmurjohnson2368 4 ай бұрын
An old Madone and Venge is a sweet quiver, not into these Ozempic bikes at all
@Rainmaker0007
@Rainmaker0007 4 ай бұрын
I love my green slr gen6.
@kreed4
@kreed4 4 ай бұрын
Agree. Much prefer the gen 7. And it’s definitely more aero/faster on the flats than gen 8
@HeyWattsUpCycling
@HeyWattsUpCycling 4 ай бұрын
its the fastest bike on the market and best looking no question.
@bsbbernal
@bsbbernal 4 ай бұрын
I noticed the change in how you structure and format these reviews. You seem to tackle questions more directly and more objectively now--reserving judgment when needed. Much appreciated and refreshing compared to your old style of review.
@perjensen1962
@perjensen1962 4 ай бұрын
I totally agree. Good format David🤗
@axuh382
@axuh382 4 ай бұрын
I hope this bike comes for sale to Lidl near me!
@tweed0929
@tweed0929 4 ай бұрын
You can pick yours off from local USPS office near you!
@leedorney
@leedorney 4 ай бұрын
In that bargain isle 😁
@LukeGJPotter
@LukeGJPotter 4 ай бұрын
If we can't believe the claimed weight, can we believe the claimed Aero? The previous gen is much better looking.
@sodamanoi
@sodamanoi 4 ай бұрын
This new model saves more drag from the new aero bottle design 😅
@gregvassilakos
@gregvassilakos 4 ай бұрын
Oh no! I ride an Emonda. Part of the attraction was that it is a simple frame design with no gimmicks. Perhaps my next bike will be a Cervelo Soloist or Giant TCR.
@shiznit76
@shiznit76 4 ай бұрын
Why? Stick to your current emonda if you don't like this version
@jamesspokes1372
@jamesspokes1372 4 ай бұрын
Keep the Emonda.
@levipicard7685
@levipicard7685 4 ай бұрын
It's still relatively simple, no iso speed. Keep your emonda for now, they're still crazy fast. But there's no gimmick here it's just different from what you're used to seeing.
@Gws525
@Gws525 3 ай бұрын
Giant TCR is wickedly underrated
@JIMMYHIBBS1
@JIMMYHIBBS1 2 ай бұрын
I just swapped my 2016 Emonda S5 for an Emonda SL6 pro - looked at the soloist, but couldn’t justify the price for the same spec (di2 - carbon wheels) … I’m not unrealistic that Trek carbon wheels and finishing kits are the best - but at the price point, they appear nicely finished, and good paint jobs (looked at Canyon and Orbea and they just look budget by comparison)
@muratmustafa4532
@muratmustafa4532 4 ай бұрын
Well Trek did not disappoint. The new bike is still heavier and more expensive than the competition! Such a shame...
@FT__Bicycling_____-sc7yv
@FT__Bicycling_____-sc7yv 4 ай бұрын
At Trek HQ: Boss: We need to increase the bottom line. The Madone is our highest margin model. We need to sell more Madones! Guy: Yeah.. how can we sell more Madones? Accountant1: A lot of people are buying Emondas rather than Madones Logistics guy: We are buried in different SKUs / sizes / paint colors. Logistics guy 2: If we simplify our SKU range, we can reduce inventory costs by 10% and also manufacturing and development costs even more Manufacturing manager: yeah the factory scheduler says we'd save money, and having less molds would save a ton.. Guy: oh guys I have an idea. If we eliminate the Emonda model then the people who would have bought and Emonda will buy a Madone! Logistics guys: yeah.. and like we said... Guy 2: We will sell more madones!!! Boss: Brilliant idea Guy 1 and 2. Let's do it. Hey engineers, make the Madone a bit lighter and say that we combined the models. Show them charts and stuff, Engineering mgr: but..... Marketing: Yeah they love charts! Let's do it.
@MrJlopez88
@MrJlopez88 4 ай бұрын
The accountant need more lines 😂
@tweed0929
@tweed0929 4 ай бұрын
@@MrJlopez88 nobody cares what an accountant says. His job is to... COUNT 🤣
@jondillon5433
@jondillon5433 4 ай бұрын
@@FT__Bicycling_____-sc7yv it’s like you were at the meeting….
@yourstruly2337
@yourstruly2337 3 ай бұрын
You are that Guy 1. Admit it!!! 😅
@saphireg8094
@saphireg8094 4 ай бұрын
Outgoing aero Madone looks ages better
@karankapoor001
@karankapoor001 4 ай бұрын
Yup,,this looks gayi 😅
@stizz19
@stizz19 4 ай бұрын
This bike with the fancy paint job costs up to $22,000 CAD, that is ridiculous.
@ferventheat
@ferventheat 4 ай бұрын
My £200 second hand Giant TCR 2 with full duraace from 17 years ago weighs about 0.5kg more than a new £22k bike? "Ridiculous!" Indeed.
@GregJungwirth
@GregJungwirth 4 ай бұрын
It makes the S-Works SL8 Tarmac at $18,000 CAD look like an absolute deal! 😂😂😂
@FT__Bicycling_____-sc7yv
@FT__Bicycling_____-sc7yv 4 ай бұрын
That's how much the last NEW car I bought cost.
@harlan3103
@harlan3103 4 ай бұрын
Why go for the top tier version? the SL (105/Ultegra) version is far better choice IMO
@suminshizzles6951
@suminshizzles6951 4 ай бұрын
This is a total and utter rip off. They are hoping that fools who part with their money will indeed part with their money as they are fools. Research and developement is frqeuntly quoted by peole who buy these expenisve bikes , as to why they are so expensive. This theory goes out the window when you compare how much car or motorcycle you can get for 22k. But the real crime is the fact that the bike is ugly and odd looking. It is filled with gimmicks that actually look dangerous and are not even arodynamic. Dont telll trek that.
@_cpdchua
@_cpdchua 4 ай бұрын
7.3 kgs without pedals + having Sram Red is diabolical. Whack
@AdamJStoryDC
@AdamJStoryDC 4 ай бұрын
I'm glad I didn't drink the Coolaid and buy a heavy bike believing that weight didn't matter and only aerodynamics mattered (unless you're at a 9% incline). I guess now we're back to "weight matters" so I'll wait a year to buy this bike when they Trek can't sell any for $14,000 and it will be on sale for $7999.
@korsveien
@korsveien 4 ай бұрын
I bought my canyon Endurace disc in 2018. It was the lowest tier with carbon frame and 105 Shimano. At 8,2 kg it was considered to be a bit heavy. How times have changed and people quickly forget. Guess we now are going back to anything over 8 kg is heavy again.
@jamesspokes1372
@jamesspokes1372 4 ай бұрын
Spot on. The 180 is breath taking
@lawman1965
@lawman1965 4 ай бұрын
"We've tried to break it". Not until you've given it to an overweight English rider like me to test ride it on our wonderful lanes! Paris Roubaix? Pah, Staffordshire lanes with fat old me on the bike will kill it dead.....lol. Seriously though, I do wonder how reliable it will be for heavier riders like me on our really terrible roads!
@bravodelta6883
@bravodelta6883 4 ай бұрын
He tried to break it...Meanwhile, he weighs 110 pounds.
@deployeddan
@deployeddan 4 ай бұрын
I'm close to the bikes limit... So give it to me for a week.... Challenge accepted 😂
@andy009m
@andy009m 4 ай бұрын
I think they don’t hire old fat people for test ride. See how fit they are. Even the big guy there is not fat.
@andrew30m
@andrew30m 4 ай бұрын
Staffs lanes! Luxury! the roads around Lichfield are like silk smooth, thus needs to try roads round York, like ploughed field wit soom stoney tarmac throwen ont top, and we r grateful for dem.
@leedorney
@leedorney 4 ай бұрын
Was up over Huddersfield way at the weekend and those roads great inclines but by god the state was chronic truly bad potholes! I really believe I could snap those bike especially that (pathetic) dual seatpost
@diegoeleazar9154
@diegoeleazar9154 4 ай бұрын
Bike manufacturers hit the wall on improvements.
@niklaskristensson2231
@niklaskristensson2231 4 ай бұрын
Cant afford..but nice to watch progress. Nice video, David! Keep it up🎉
@davidarthur
@davidarthur 4 ай бұрын
Thanks! 😃
@ruisantos5746
@ruisantos5746 4 ай бұрын
When you do the comparison review Dogma F vs SL8 vs new Madone, remember to compare them with the same tires and wheels 😉👍
@jEsperesence
@jEsperesence 4 ай бұрын
I’ll just buy the new bottles and bottle cage on my 2021 Emonda SL6 Pro and BAM! I got my somewhat a Gen 8 update! 😅 Cheapest way to deal with this. Emonda ❤ Forever!
@singyuchan5447
@singyuchan5447 4 ай бұрын
Can’t watch the trek guys boast about the bike while keeping a straight face knowing this is because of SKUs
@terbennett
@terbennett 4 ай бұрын
Facts 100%
@levipicard7685
@levipicard7685 4 ай бұрын
Yes, it is about SKUs, but I've ridden the last few gens of emonda and Madone and the new one really is fast and just feels nice to ride. The balance of stiffness, compliance and speed is well done and the fact that they were able to reduce SKUs without too much compromise is still impressive
@buster.keaton
@buster.keaton 4 ай бұрын
Trek should just include two top tube stickers with the bike, one that says "Madone" and the other "Emonda"... then you can choose which bike you want it to be. 🙂
@gerrymcbride6429
@gerrymcbride6429 4 ай бұрын
@buster.keaton A wise man!
@jamessankey01
@jamessankey01 4 ай бұрын
Top shelf content, thanks. Excellent ride footage and high level of detail. Great shots of the bikes. This is in contrast to so many others who focus on them talking instead of ride & bike footage.
@Gixer750pilot
@Gixer750pilot 4 ай бұрын
It’s about Reducing SKUs . It makes sense . But the geometry may be too extreme for most .
@stefanomancini6569
@stefanomancini6569 4 ай бұрын
agreed
@scottf3456
@scottf3456 4 ай бұрын
Yes, now they need to revamp the domane, lower the weight and get rid if the iso speed. Or bring back the h2 fit on this model.
@Andy_ATB
@Andy_ATB 4 ай бұрын
@@scottf3456 Nothing wrong with the Domane; the perfect bike for the 'normal' rider......
@Andy_ATB
@Andy_ATB 4 ай бұрын
Marlin, Roscoe and alloy Procaliber surely aren't all needed?
@scottf3456
@scottf3456 4 ай бұрын
@@Andy_ATB well thats a matter of opinion, you can say there was nothing wrong with the emonda or the madone. Domane is like just about the heaviest in class and the isospeed while confortable - people have complained about it as the bike ages. Still it is a beautiful bike as is there is no denying that.
@rolffuchs2737
@rolffuchs2737 4 ай бұрын
In the real world tested (I think it was bike station), the Madone Gen 7 was on a hill climb (average 6%) faster than a Tarmac SL8, although 2 pounds heavier. And the Madone is much more comfy. So I guess I'll get a Gen 7 for me, it even looks so much better.
@mikefj2004
@mikefj2004 4 ай бұрын
To me the smallest and most insignificant changes are between the SL7 Gen 7&8. Pretty much the entire gen 8 bike is exactly the same and weighs only .28grams lighter. I prefer the more aggressive look of the gen 7. I would expect an immediate price drop of the gen 7 though given that both are currently the exact same price. Seat stays is a little thicker on Gen 7 but gen 8 does have a slightly more compliant stay (argumentative how much better it is). Aesthetically, the gen 8 color schemes are beautiful and imo, Trek has the best paint jobs in the industry.
@bubby372
@bubby372 4 ай бұрын
For a minute there I thought I was watching Safa Brian. Great descending David.
@davidarthur
@davidarthur 4 ай бұрын
Thanks! :)
@SomeTrader74
@SomeTrader74 3 ай бұрын
True, some other bikes might be a bit lighter but I'd take aero and compliance (comfort) any day.
@liciniooliveira-becas3618
@liciniooliveira-becas3618 4 ай бұрын
This seems to make some more sense. They all just want one top of the line segment. That cut on the frame below the seatpost scares me a lot!
@stephenbrown590
@stephenbrown590 4 ай бұрын
"dramatically lighter".... Meh, I'm "dramatically lighter" if I have a number two before a ride, in that case 😂🚲
@davidkennedy4845
@davidkennedy4845 4 ай бұрын
And only put half the amount of fluid in my bidden!
@HeadPack
@HeadPack 4 ай бұрын
Gen 7 is a piece of art by comparison. Might try to get myself one used, now that this is out.
@cmarnold78
@cmarnold78 4 ай бұрын
Look at that brutal attack at 16:11!!!! Crushing dreams there David!
@davidarthur
@davidarthur 4 ай бұрын
Haha 😂
@madyogi6164
@madyogi6164 4 ай бұрын
17:15 Trek is definitely a cool bike, but still I prefer the view. The view and the speed.
@Justjust007
@Justjust007 4 ай бұрын
I like how frank you are and also detailed..I just wish that someone did a video on Trek FX Sport 6 .I just want to ride on paved trails and feel light, but I don't know if it's worth spending $2700 for a city bike ...Thanks for your videos
@madyogi6164
@madyogi6164 4 ай бұрын
And as always it is 200 grams lighter, more aero, and rides faster. Just we are older and slower. Comedy gold.
@davidkennedy4845
@davidkennedy4845 4 ай бұрын
In a blind testing, most wouldn't be able to distinguish a difference between the outgoing model and this one.
@madyogi6164
@madyogi6164 4 ай бұрын
@@davidkennedy4845 You're right! Well, position will be bit different (different sizing brings slightly different angles here or there).
@edjack1993
@edjack1993 4 ай бұрын
I can’t help but think that the seatpost set up is a real potential point of failure. Am sure it’s suitably reinforced but it just looks shonky. Aethos for me, thanks.
@JimGarlits
@JimGarlits 4 ай бұрын
That was the first thing that stood out to me, too.
@philchevrier
@philchevrier 4 ай бұрын
I have no regrets that I bought a gen7 last year, it's a great bike. However, that new one does look like great!
@davidspagnolo4870
@davidspagnolo4870 4 ай бұрын
Why would you regret buying a better product?
@philchevrier
@philchevrier 4 ай бұрын
@@davidspagnolo4870 So you've ridden both and can objectively say the 7 is better? Please share the details.
@tonyd5111
@tonyd5111 4 ай бұрын
I think it looks horrendous around the seat tube area. Does not inspire confidence at all. Frankenstein monster of a bike.
@fabianmolyneux2308
@fabianmolyneux2308 4 ай бұрын
Fantastic review Dave. Thank you. I loved my Trek Emondas, one of which I sill ride today. I'm disappointed the new Madone is not as light as I was hoping and from the impressions I take from your review, the "Jury is still undecided" as to whether it's a big stride ahead of what existed 2 years previously. The fact you need to test it further on your home turf suggests to me that while it's a good bike it didn't knock your socks off, liked you'd expect to experience. Hanging out for your SL6 review
@johnoldham808
@johnoldham808 3 ай бұрын
As an Emonda owner, I regret this decision was not run by me‼️🤦‍♂️🤷‍♂️😳🤪
@leotronixbabu
@leotronixbabu 4 ай бұрын
Good review, it's very helpful for all. Thanks for your hardworking.
@davidarthur
@davidarthur 4 ай бұрын
My pleasure!
@cityslacker6221
@cityslacker6221 4 ай бұрын
what an incredible ride in Spain. Beautiful riding!
@Jessikitty2020
@Jessikitty2020 4 ай бұрын
Keeping my emonda SL6 pro. Carbon frame, carbon wheels, mechanical ultegra and rim brakes. 16 pounds with tubes.
@thatrandombikeguy
@thatrandombikeguy 4 ай бұрын
Wow….Trek guys seem super excited to talk about the bike (heavy sarcasm). Probably worried they’re about to get cut along with the retail employees and SKUs 😂
@roa5359
@roa5359 4 ай бұрын
Strange looking contraption. I guess it’s what they do to reinvent the wheel/run out of ideas on what to do with a bike frame.
@ianslater4091
@ianslater4091 4 ай бұрын
My missis says, it looks like an Airfix model put together wrongly. I think she is right 😂
@robertmcfadyen9156
@robertmcfadyen9156 4 ай бұрын
Adam Bird from the design team on Aeroad tasks has said that the ALR (alloy) Emonda will be the only ongoing model for the forthcoming year in that series . The carbon higher - teir models will be in the platform merger .
@brend2549
@brend2549 4 ай бұрын
Great review, youre the only journo who has actually weighed the thing
@scottishjason
@scottishjason 4 ай бұрын
Reminds me of the Look Mondrian paint job, love the look. It’s not worth the price however.
@AG-el6vt
@AG-el6vt 4 ай бұрын
Hahaha somebody must have seen a Look 795 and thought, 'Yeah let's just copy that color scheme! I'm sure nobody will notice the dented seat tube.'
@davidkennedy4845
@davidkennedy4845 4 ай бұрын
If buyers keep paying savagely high prices for bikes, the manufacturers will keep on making them. Lets face it, the majority of those who can afford to buy them, will never realise the apparent tech advantages anywhere near in full. Remember, the pros don't pay for the bikes they ride in the grand tours. Cycling used to be a sport for the working class. Manufacturers have changed this to a sport/recreation for the upper class. Buy your next bike with your head, not with your ego.
@JimGarlits
@JimGarlits 4 ай бұрын
Well yeah, there's that. But cycling is an industry, too. All of the R&D goes into the high-end bikes, and the tech eventually filters down to reasonably priced models over time. I'm okay with this. I would never pay thousands of dollars for one of these bikes, but they're fun to look at and see them reviewed. I'd be afraid to scratch the paint brushing past one in a bike shop! Still cool, though. I think that most of those buying these can afford them, and they can spend their money how they like. I feel for the guy (well, his wife) who can't afford it but buys it anyway!
@MrJlopez88
@MrJlopez88 4 ай бұрын
Long life to the Specialized Allez Sprint first gen
@davidderrico9534
@davidderrico9534 4 ай бұрын
How does compare to Specialized Tarmac ?
@lancewatson2839
@lancewatson2839 4 ай бұрын
Trek, Pinarello, Cervello, Colnago….most of their prices in AUD are just ridiculous
@Dali6266
@Dali6266 4 ай бұрын
Out of control expensive 😡
@jacobrich7785
@jacobrich7785 4 ай бұрын
The cool wall! Always a great comparison scale:) It’s great knowing I can see a new bike release and that this channel will explain it right away
@Adam-we2bd
@Adam-we2bd 4 ай бұрын
looking forward for the sl6 review
@thomasspotzl4240
@thomasspotzl4240 4 ай бұрын
The bottles remind me of dishwashing detergent. Quite fitting for Lidl.
@cesar0610
@cesar0610 4 ай бұрын
That's exactly I need to learn for selling my 2023 Emonda SL6. I ain't keeping an obsolete bike. I ain't loosing money hanging in my garage
@MrAlucard1964
@MrAlucard1964 14 күн бұрын
I had an Emonda like yours. I bought a Madone SL6 Gen 8. I can tell you that the combining of the Emonda and the Madone was a good idea. It performs great and I love the comfort.
@georgeowbatchelor
@georgeowbatchelor 4 ай бұрын
For sure it is the economics of cheaper to have one frame, rather than two, but still attract the same demand
@davidcarino6500
@davidcarino6500 4 ай бұрын
I own a SLR emonda frame with paint 56-58 cm 800-900 grams! Yes I did call trek on that, they admitted to me 700 grams is with out paint. But the model i have from 2 years ago rides really nice! Specialized frames do have thin paint compared to my trek. These companies what to charge this insane money show there frames with paint on a scale and and complete build with pedals weight!
@anterrickson2585
@anterrickson2585 4 ай бұрын
I like what they did here to compete with the Tarmac, but I think the Emonda could have been turned into an Aethos competitor, UCI illegal light weight beast.
@steveindorset
@steveindorset 4 ай бұрын
Nice to hear all the info from the team. But I think I preferred the old Emonda. I’m not mad about that seat post “hole” thingy, still looks a bit odd. But I’m loving that paint job!😍 Very similar to the “Look” paint jobs of a few years ago. Would I buy one? Probably not, Trek is really not my “tasse de thè!” I’m still drooling over that “hulk Green” Wilier. 😍 Good info though David. And well done getting yourself in on all these new bike press releases. You’re one of the big boys out there now. 10/10 😎👍🏻 P.S. Still waiting on that Wahoo Roam V2 review, you know…the one that you’ve used in this review as well?? 😁🙏🏻👍🏻
@jondillon5433
@jondillon5433 4 ай бұрын
Looks like you’ve a layback seatmast, stock is inline on all models. Is this correct? Did you spec a 20mm layback for the test bike?
@benbos1925
@benbos1925 4 ай бұрын
They should have gone with a new name: ADEMON same lettering new name
@roadbikelover123
@roadbikelover123 4 ай бұрын
Hard to believe that this bike is not less aero than the previous madone
@michaelliu6570
@michaelliu6570 4 ай бұрын
Prob from the proprietary water bottles
@fen2453
@fen2453 4 ай бұрын
they changed the testing parameters
@kreed4
@kreed4 4 ай бұрын
Yeah. The much shallower headtube won’t be as aero as the deeper one in Gen 7
@michaelliu6570
@michaelliu6570 4 ай бұрын
@@kreed4 wonder how the power transfer feels like too. BB doesn’t look beefed up.
@jamesspokes1372
@jamesspokes1372 4 ай бұрын
It is less aero, unless you spend £190 on aero bottles then it is the same as Gen 7
@treyquattro
@treyquattro 4 ай бұрын
Madone to rule them all... Not for me though. I know the seat mast is safe, but it always looks like it's about to snap off. I prefer your more old school, staid, and conservative seat tube design, thanks. I'm also skeptical about Isoflow, no matter what yer man says: just how much is airflow quantitatively improved in that section of the bike, behind the head tube and in the midst of the big, messy human stirring it up?
@BobMcAllan
@BobMcAllan 4 ай бұрын
What a bike! It's light, it's aero, it's stiff, 900 OCLV Carbon (??).. it's everything I want in a bike.. wait, how much? Meh.
@Eirikkinserdal
@Eirikkinserdal 4 ай бұрын
Madone is named after a climb after all
@Scottfoil10
@Scottfoil10 4 ай бұрын
La principal razón es que antes hubo un boom de ventas en bicicletas, y al cliente se le quería convencer de que necesitaba una escaladora (emonda) y una aero para el llano (madone). Lo que el cliente no se daba cuenta es que tenia la misma bici, misma geometria, una con tubos algo mas finos y otra mas rectos con una diferencia de peso a igualdad de componentes de unos 400 grs en el mejor de los casos (dependiendo de la marca, en mi caso son 200 grs), y que para nada es determinante en su rendimiento. Ahora que hay una crisis en ventas, quieren convencer al cliente que lo mejor es tener una bici (gen 8) que "tiene lo mejor de la escaladora y la Aero" cuando es la misma bici que las anteriores. La realidad es que se trata de reducir costes.
@avroman100
@avroman100 2 ай бұрын
I’m cycling for 10 years and each year I hear, 5% lighter, faster, aero. But actually there not so much difference to buy new bike each year and even 5 years. Actually my 6 years old bike was 7.5 kilos, and very fast, cost me 4k usd , today same model from same company 9 kilos and cost 6k (so where is improvement?) . Actually, there is no reason to upgrade. And someone can say disk brakes better, but they are sucks, on dry conditions they stop exactly the same, they need much more maintenance, and I don’t cycle in rain. Electric shifting also has so many problems and cost a lot of money and already had issue in competition with that gear. So, all that marketing sucks, industry trying to get our money by selling stories. After bike upgrade, I don't find too many improvements even I have now aero, disk brakes , 12 speed electronic gear, my speed is not changed, my feelings on the bikes are the same my happiness level from cycling is the same on 1k bike and on 6k bike
@Aussie_stu
@Aussie_stu 4 ай бұрын
David Arthur mentioning the Top Gear cool wall, a week after Cade Media introduces their own cool wall. Almost as bad as Jumbos copy of Wantys Cube.
@rolffuchs2737
@rolffuchs2737 4 ай бұрын
So it is not lighter than the old model and not more aero?
@jamesspokes1372
@jamesspokes1372 4 ай бұрын
Correct.
@kingdompilot18
@kingdompilot18 3 ай бұрын
So trek released the gen 7 knowing that in like 8 months they were going to release the gen 8. I wonder when the gen 9 is going to come out.
@LOZUPONEJ
@LOZUPONEJ 4 ай бұрын
Just combine the checkpoint and domane next to cut costs lol
@Philippe-ke3sk
@Philippe-ke3sk 4 ай бұрын
And then merge this light allroad aero bike domane/checkpoint with the light aero madone. At the end one bike for everyone, and one size M/L to be in the middle😂
@gerrymcbride6429
@gerrymcbride6429 4 ай бұрын
You mean the Checkmate, I think that's on the way.
@tweed0929
@tweed0929 4 ай бұрын
Check. Done.
@Maffy-h
@Maffy-h 4 ай бұрын
Hello david love your content. Which bike do you prefer to ride. The new madone or the new dogma F?
@AndrewGrease
@AndrewGrease Ай бұрын
The bottle cages! :D
@todd727300
@todd727300 4 ай бұрын
I don't understand why there is a $4000 difference between an SLR 9 and SLR 7. Looking at Trek's specs and the difference in price between Dura-Ace and Ultegra as well as wheels and saddle, you still don't come anywhere near that difference.
@gregmorrison7320
@gregmorrison7320 4 ай бұрын
Because there will be people who believe they are getting $4000.00 extra value so will pay for it, good profit for Trek.
@thebikeracer
@thebikeracer 4 ай бұрын
That sizing chart looks terrible for a 6' person like me. I've been riding a 58 Emonda with a 57.3 TT. It used to be easy to size a bike for myself. Now everything is jacked up. Don't even get me started on trying to fit a Checkpoint...Which means I wouldn't be able to ride a stock stem length - my guess - but how much is that one-piece cockpit to figure it out???
@axelmogr
@axelmogr 4 ай бұрын
That's one fugly bike, gen 7 is gonna massively appreciate in value now. Lets cut the BS this is a cost-cutting move. Nobody asked for a skinnier/less aero Madone.
@bigwave_dave8468
@bigwave_dave8468 4 ай бұрын
I still can't get behind the mechanically stupid seat tube junction. It's a gimmick that won't stand the test of time and makes the fitment more limited.
@banjo7127
@banjo7127 4 ай бұрын
$3500 for the entry level ready to ride SL but $3800 for the frameset without any assembly or equipment costs!? Is this a commonplace tactic with manufacturers and suppliers to shift their groupsets etc or is diverting a frameset before assembly somehow more costly? Makes no sense on the face of it.
@izylldus
@izylldus 4 ай бұрын
Let's just agree that the only real winner here are the mechanics from teams sponsored by Trek
@mikespadafora9077
@mikespadafora9077 3 ай бұрын
Aero gains have hit peak marketing claims. Riders want light weight and responsive bikes. With inflation, sales are down and it is well known that Trek is hurting financially. They needed to reduce their SKUs and thus this bike was born. Plain and simple.
@davemaca
@davemaca 4 ай бұрын
My CAAD 10 from 10 years ago is lighter. 20k aud for a 7 kg bike, the SL frames are nearly 9kg!
@geoffreyfaltot1006
@geoffreyfaltot1006 2 ай бұрын
Trek needs an all aluminum race bike for the entry level and recreational consumers. The weekend warriors. The kids getting into the sport. The people who don't want to panic when they get in a wreck because they just damaged their savings as well. They should have made the emonda from the beginning the go to all aluminum race bike. A competitor to Cannondale's CAAD series. No gimmicky junk just race geometry with conservative aesthetics. The madone should have ALWAYS been their Ferrari. Their developmental platform. Their top tier. Always carbon with different components and wheelsets for different price points. But no doubt their secret weapon for speed. Trek should have done this from the beginning. Should have stuck with it.
@ps3narciso
@ps3narciso 4 ай бұрын
i am on the fence between the new tcr pro1 and the gen 8 madone sl6. which should i get? you rode both so it would be nice to share your opinion 😊
@maveriks463
@maveriks463 4 ай бұрын
They lost me at the lack of weight savings....😢😢
@escamunicha4276
@escamunicha4276 4 ай бұрын
I own an old Emonda and I could never put myself to like that hole under the seatpost.
@adamc547
@adamc547 4 ай бұрын
It is NOT DRAMATICALLY lighter - total BS marketing. Website states the SLR 7 in a medium is little over 16lbs- was in trek shop and that bike weighs over 17- roughly 17.3lbs
@p0sitiv467
@p0sitiv467 3 ай бұрын
What would you pick this or the new Canyon Aeroad?
@EddyCat1234
@EddyCat1234 3 ай бұрын
7.3kg does seem a tad heavy. By way of comparison, my current gen Emonda with Aeolus 51’s, Bontrager aero bars and matching stem, pedals, cages, Garmin and light mounts is 7.45 and it a size 60
@jrnlundsgaard5896
@jrnlundsgaard5896 4 ай бұрын
Like specialized. Low cost production and premium prices to costumers combined with bull shit marketing. It is a wonder that costumers keep buying these brands. All the claims with Venge and old Madone now seams hollow because of the one bike to rule them all concept. I don't belive all the claims and marketing + reviews any more. You simply have to do the test your self.
@CycleXplorer
@CycleXplorer 4 ай бұрын
Comes with lifetime discount in Lidl if you take it in those colours
@tweed0929
@tweed0929 4 ай бұрын
No rim brakes, no mechanical shifting, eye-watering prices... and then they wonder why they can't sell more bikes. Yeah, why?
@zachrinehimer5239
@zachrinehimer5239 4 ай бұрын
Base sl5 madone 105 mechanical shift $3499
@deployeddan
@deployeddan 4 ай бұрын
Very nice video David! As a heavier rider, I'm not EVER going to trust that seat cluster! I've seen them posted online already snapped, and more cracked. While I love a new bike day, I'm either stuck with my Émonda Slr..... Or have to look at a different manufacturer
@alexgonzalezMI
@alexgonzalezMI Ай бұрын
I have a Canyon Aeroad and I like it. It's fast and aggressive in Crits. However, when you go on a long ride, it's extremely uncomfortable after about 60 miles. Just beats me up. I wonder how much more comfortable a new Madone or SL8 would feel over the Canyon.
@SnugMoney
@SnugMoney 4 ай бұрын
How much weight did they save by making the TREK logo smaller?
@davidarthur
@davidarthur 4 ай бұрын
56g 😆
@stubestrong
@stubestrong 4 ай бұрын
first thought was how much more aero this bike could be with the cervelo S5 star trek style stem
@nealm1814
@nealm1814 4 ай бұрын
Madone SL6 which you reckon is the "sweet spot" is £3250 to £4250 😂😂😂😂 Just love that bike journo sweet spot 😂😂
@davidarthur
@davidarthur 4 ай бұрын
I didn't say it was cheap! ;)
@YeahRightWm3
@YeahRightWm3 4 ай бұрын
How does it feel on the climbs-mountains vs the Emonda?
@terbennett
@terbennett 4 ай бұрын
Let's be real. Weight has ALWAYS mattered. We were told that to convince us that disc brakes were the way to go, at a time when the masses were uncertain. Now we ride disc and weight is at the forefront again. It never left but most people were too narrow-minded to see it. Whether it's on your body or on the bike, weight will always matter to some degree. That's a lot of what we pay for when buying a bicycle.
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