14:45 I love when people talk about the characters only to show they absolutely know nothing yet act like they do.
@IanadayaКүн бұрын
Listen Makari, as fans of both Mega Man AND Sonic, you got both of their characters COMPLETELY wrong, maybe go read a comic or something, or just watch the intro cutscene to Sonic Unleashed to get a better idea
@jvts8916Күн бұрын
yeah, she's treating their achievements as if they were their whole personality. It's something of a pet peeve of mine, especially when people say Wily "won" by killing everyone... completely ignoring he craves validation and he's basically a ghost writer by the start of the Z era.
@chriskoloski327 сағат бұрын
You're talking to someone who hasn't played any of those games nor has knowledge of any actual lore from shows or comics. You may as well paint a wall red and tell it to become blue
@luigiclone0286Күн бұрын
The audio fucks up around 42:34 , this is confusing Edit: 39:50 started apparently
@Kinsect101Күн бұрын
It actually started around 39:50
@Ai_M3talloidX7Күн бұрын
Holy crap that messed me up!
@slymanva9983Күн бұрын
15:00 tell me you’ve never played a Sonic or mega man game without telling me you’ve never played a Sonic or Mega Man game
@jmbsonic10Күн бұрын
I had this same thought from the Shenanigoons 64 reaction, but just didn't say anything.
@Shiobana753Күн бұрын
What I've learned is that Makari doesn't understand Megaman or Sonic
@sarafontanini7051Күн бұрын
I actually disagree that sonic and megaman are the same. they only have similiarties in being blue. Sonic is a good guy but he's also carefree and sassy. He'll save the day but also joke about it and call the bad guy names while punching him in the face. megaman's too...generically good and nice (in the games) to say if he even HAS a personality at all. Except for the one time where he was totally gonna kill Dr Wily after having had enough of his bullshit.
@Red1FouadКүн бұрын
and that was just in the english version. the original JP version of megaman 7 has megaman shut up after wily tells him about the robotic law.
@mithras9706Күн бұрын
I do agree on them being different, but disagree on Rock having no personality, you say generically good but I'd say just a nice kid, courageous and diligent (gotta keep in mind he has zero freedom of choice though, he is at the end of the day a robot after all)
@Th3R0boArt1stКүн бұрын
tbh the comparison between megaman and sonic are insanely different and they aren't the same, again the only thing is just them having the color blue. sonic is way different than megaman, and both are not the same. I'm sorry makari but i disagree with you saying that they are the same. Sonic and Megaman are completely different and aren't the same. You can even tell how different they are too.
@ReSouleКүн бұрын
I have never heard someone mischaracterized Sonic and Mega Man so hard. Usually they have Sonic mischaracterized as a Adrenaline junkie and Mega Man as a child pacifist.
@Slasher9485Күн бұрын
14:45 me when I spread misinformation
@lackluster477711 сағат бұрын
13:00 yeah well that's because most of the Sonic characters are already overpowered. Knuckles had super-strength, Sonic and Shadow can use their bodies as weapons and Tails technically uses guns but as a part of his transforming mech-plane. Shadow is not realistic, he just tries to look cool by using guns but he cam casually create energy spears out of thin air. 14:43 yeah no. Sonic doesn't save the world because he's a good guy like Megaman. He does it because he finds it fun and hates any form of oppression. He likes freedom, he's carefree, he doesn't care that some people may consider him a bad guy for what he does as long as he thinks he does the right thing. He's more like Goku eho just likes training, fighting strong guys and has a sense of justice but he doesn't consider himself a hero. But not Megaman who's programmed to be a good guy outside of one time when he snaps. I'm not even talking about the abilities, their main defining features. So you're wrong, go play some Megaman. 21:41 that's just free camera mod they installed, you're not supposed to see them despawning. Same with all the heads and faces disappearing 23:56 yeah but Sonic (and Shadow) think that cars and bikes are cool. That's the whole reason they use them occasionally. 27:45 Ah yeah, because it's so easy to mod in the character in a game that never released on PC that way so he would appear in in-game engine cutscenes and CG ONES. A good chunk of that video is unwatchable btw but you probably already know that. 57:30 There's Sonic Drift 1 and 2 on the Game Gear. There's Sonic R on Sega Saturn and PC. There's Sonic Riders, Sonic Riders Zero Gravity and Sonic Free Riders where the characters use hoverboards. There's Sonic & Sega All-Stars Racing and Sonic & All-Stars Racing Transformed which are more of a Sega game and not Sonic since it features multiple Sega IPs. Also Team Sonic Racing which is the most recent one. And there's also Sonic Rivals 1 and 2 which are a weird platformer and racing hybrid exclusive for the PSP. 1:09:00 there's a bunch of evil Tails' actually. There's an alternate evil version of Tails from an alternate dimension called Miles from Archie Sonic comics. There's Nine, an artificially enhanced Tails from the universe where Sonic didn't exist who becomes a main villain at the end of Sonic Prime. And there's also a lot of evil artificial doppelgangers like Metal Tails or Tails Doll. Sonic Rivals 2 also had a ghost replica of Tails. So even if Tails didn't had it as bad as Sonic, he still had a few evil ones. 1:11:45 Rouge is an anti-hero. She's a government spy who is obsessed with jewels and gems. For some reason though lately Sega tries to make Rouge an actual hero, hanging out with Sonic and even giving her more of a teenage attitude which is weird since she's supposed to be one of the more mature characters.
@jvts8916Күн бұрын
To summarize, Shadow still doesn't remember his past after the events of Sonic Heroes, an alien warlord called Black Doom wants him to lead the invasion and Eggman tries to gaslight Shadow into thinking he's another one of his Shadow Androids he built to replace him. Those are the events that happen in every route and then fast forward to the Last Story, which shows Shadow got the emeralds one way or another. Black Doom reveals he offered Gerald his DNA to create the ultimate lifeform, but he didn't know the latter realized it was a bad idea and was planning to use the Eclipse Cannon to destroy the Black Comet (which is his base). At the end of the game Shadow decides to leave his past be.
@Zymeth70Күн бұрын
Did the entire video Desync after 41:00? Nvm it sync-ed again at around 56:30 ish. hard to tell.....
@walfull1079Күн бұрын
The audio doesn’t sync with the video at the 40 minute mark
@dustyoldroweКүн бұрын
Gohan Blanco wasn't exacly asking for Shadow to do his taxes lmao
@locusxe1411Күн бұрын
Who cares
@benjaminjara7312Күн бұрын
Makari is so brave for making her avatar cross her arms, and not care for the fact that so many internet users have crashed and burned with the exact same pose
@tannerprice2018Күн бұрын
9:46 Fun fact, after this game, Shadow starts working for G.U.N. So both he and Rouge are actually government-funded. 14:42 Of course, ‘cuz Megaman’s a hedgehog who runs at the speed of sound, rolls into a ball, and has his own Super Saiyan form. And likewise, Sonic is actually a robot who can copy other robots’ abilities whose creator/father looks like Santa Claus. 57:27 We already do. The shitty ones like Sonic Drift 1 & 2 on Game Gear, the mid ones like the Sonic Riders Trilogy on GameCube, Wii and Xbox 360 Kinect, and the good ones like the Sonic & All Stars Racing Duology and Team Sonic Racing.
@Ai_M3talloidX7Күн бұрын
Counter argument for "Sonic is Mega Man but a furry": Can Sonic launch projectiles in his base form aside from using himself via spin dash? No. The one argument you can have for Sonic and Mega Man for similar abilities they can collect (not counting the chaos emeralds for Sonic as it's a transformation a la DBZ), is specifically for Sonic Colors and ONLY Sonic Colors... and I guess Sonic Superstars. Mega Man can't run fast whether immediately or gradually from momentum. He has his slide and if he has weapons that can double as additional traversal options it's always in short bursts. This is also the case for Mega Man X cause he can dash instead of sliding and wall cling. Also Mega Man can traverse underwater for long periods of time (as well as X) while Sonic can't due to canonically drowning in-game. By that logic, that would make Shadow the Bass of the Sonic franchise but far more reckless, and without a tragic backstory. That would also make Knuckles Proto Man. There is no Tails counterpart to think of honestly...
@jucathedogКүн бұрын
Ok, the audio gets out of sync after 39:48
@BreakerJackaltheChaosSourceКүн бұрын
Fun Fact: This Lythero Video, as you can tell, is actually 2 Twitch streams. Because Tech Priest Dakka spent more then $15,000 to fuck up the first stream. Then proceeded to Dragon Ball battle the rest of Chat in the second stream for dominance and lost mostly thanks to a Guy called Emporer.
@broccoliben7961Күн бұрын
The amount of quality in Lythero’s videos is always absurd
@Ai_M3talloidX7Күн бұрын
The same? Not really no. Sonic has attitude and seldom listens to others except when it comes to life or death situations. Mega just wants to right the wrongs Dr. Wily presents to the world through Dr. Light's guidance regardless even if it take a toll on his body. At the end of the day, many robot masters are either taken and reprogramed by Wily to do evil, and not of their own volition except for the ones he canonically builds from scratch. Personalities aren't one in the same. I am not sorry.
@Reaperkitty918Күн бұрын
22:26 how dare you. Tails is trying. He's a just a kid.
@JakHeroКүн бұрын
From what I’ve heard, Dakka donated a total of $8k on Lythero’s stream.
@Iamaperson-f3rКүн бұрын
24:00 I can explain. Now the reason why they drive cars is to make it more balanced. You know the racing games that have sonic and shadow. They drive the cars to make it more challenging because realistically, they would be 10 times faster than the cars, meaning that would be an instant win.
@4LeafedDragonКүн бұрын
If you count the Sega-verse racer, Sonic has three games that are vehicular racers. Rouge is an anti-hero thief. There was a show that had a cybernetic Tails as the villain, with Shadow risking his life to save Sonic from Tails.
@Cybemon539Күн бұрын
39:50 you might want to reupload this video Makari. It seems that the video goofed up on upload around this point. The audio’s out of sync.
@grandmasterbylinКүн бұрын
As always thank you for making amazing content, love ya kari!
@martinr3648Күн бұрын
32:03 samurai helldiver
@sarafontanini7051Күн бұрын
yes sonic was in the game. the way it works is shadow will have two characters following him as he journeys through a level, a cting as the representatives for the differents paths he can take and OCCASSIONALLY helping with enemies sometimes. in the first level sonic is the good side and tells shadow to kill all the alien invaders, while the one eyed tenetacled mosnter (doom's eye) tells him to kill all the GUN soldiers (who are, nominally, good guys). of course shadow could jsut say "fuck you both" and jsut go to the chaos emerald at the end of the level.
@Rogerv1032Күн бұрын
Makari, around 39:58 the audio gets out of synced. Like badly.
@mr.vlaimes682Күн бұрын
The extra characters are meant to be there.
@movespammerguyteam7colorsКүн бұрын
This game was a weird one. The campaign was a 1.5 player game, mostly because you could plug a second controller in and play as the morality character for the most part. Then there was the split screen multiplayer mode with about 4 variations of Shadow and a few chromed robot versions of Shadow with a weapon permanently attached to their arm Megaman style.
@azulesmalls5514Күн бұрын
I faintly remember playing the multi-player of this game I don't know how since I don't know where. But I remember PvP Robots, mechs and one map that was basically 2 wide ass hallways with 2 "elevators" (grabby things you can grab onto to go up) at each end.
@hollowbrinethehollowfiedsu6365Күн бұрын
there are actually two completely seperate racing franchises for sonic. actually three. there is sonic R game, sonic racing/team racing, and sonic riders
@toxsunКүн бұрын
I discovered something looking through this comment section... ...that there is wayyy too many people who obsess about sonic and megaman lore. And my response to them is this: NNNNEEERRRDDDSSSS!!!! 😂
@can9foxКүн бұрын
Makari at the start of the video. " this video is long, So the vod will be cut down." Me checking that the VOD is 35mins longer than the video they're watching. Hmmmmm
@sarafontanini7051Күн бұрын
for the record some of these glitches are likely a result of playing on PC rather than the actual playstation, i never encountered that glitch with sonic's face disappearing in the cutscene when playing the original game on PS2
@TheMetalBloodletterКүн бұрын
While they are playing on an emulator on pc, they're actually running the gamecube version of the game, and between the two best emulators for the ps2 and gamecube, I have found more issues on the gamecube emulator, so that might be another reason why.
@Android-Twenty-OneКүн бұрын
@@TheMetalBloodletter They are using a hacked version called Shadow the Hedgehog Re-Loaded that makes you do silly stuff like that in the debug tools on Dolphin Emulator. You had to be there on the Livestream for the funny and behind the scenes stuff.
@TheMetalBloodletterКүн бұрын
@Android-Twenty-One Ah, gotcha
@kingmricКүн бұрын
Ironically lythero's friend group for fighting games call themselves shenanigoons so gooning and gaming is pretty apt.
@tidianesanders2999Күн бұрын
Here before "Lythero" is fixed in the title
@Ver-dantКүн бұрын
SHE DID IT, THE LYTHERO LORE IS EXPANDING
@sorachaosblade7537Күн бұрын
I’d imagine Makari would prefer the “Archie Sonic” instead.
@jbpiano5313Күн бұрын
She talks about shadow like Zoro fans talk about Zoro
@randomtrainerx.3424Күн бұрын
I would say the Sonic 3 movies follow Sonic Adventure 2 more than Shadow the Hedgehog. Also, there are plenty of games where Sonic races similarly to Mario Kart.
@Ai_M3talloidX7Күн бұрын
Holy crap the audio and visual is desynced. 39:49 I feel disjointed. It's like maybe a 25 second delay like there was supposed to be another moment here 25 seconds ago. It syncs back at 56:42
@Murillos1Күн бұрын
14:31 - Sonic and his friends were only made cliche by SEGA in 2009. They weren’t that way before hand👍
@NoHandle444 сағат бұрын
1:01 "Half stealing" or "harvesting". What did she say?
@izsernКүн бұрын
don't know you reading the comment but at 40minit audio get out sync right now.
@lazerwolf952Күн бұрын
In what world does Megaman and Sonic have the same personality?
@chriskoloski327 сағат бұрын
How does shadow break the canon? Like 50% of the canon is because of his past
@evegagaming2376Күн бұрын
The day lythero amkes a video of dnd or baldurs gate it Will be the competencia real of Legends of Avantris